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Speaker 1 Hey, today, a fantastic podcast with some newsmakers that
Speaker 1 I say this with a little bit of glee, make the left's head explode.
Speaker 1 We start the podcast with Bolaj Orban.
Speaker 1 He is the
Speaker 1 political director in Hungary for the prime minister, who is setting everybody's hair on fire because he's at CPAC, speaking what he believes the truth.
Speaker 1 Now, I've not met him, so I had to ask some really tough questions, which makes Stu uncomfortable in today's podcast.
Speaker 1
But I think we had a fascinating conversation. Then, stop the whining DC in New York about, oh, we've got 4,000 migrants on our door.
We cover that. And we have Congresswoman Lauren Bobert.
She's on.
Speaker 1 She sets the record straight.
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Speaker 1 Prime Minister Victor Orban is coming to CPAC, and the media has gone out of their mind. They're framing it as 1930s Hitler comes to Dallas.
Speaker 1 CPAC chair Matt Schlapp has responded to that, said, Can we listen to the man speak? And if people have a disagreement with something he says, then we should raise it and talk about it.
Speaker 1 Well, that's what we're going to do today, because we live in historic times and no one can remain on the sidelines. I don't trust the media to tell me the truth or what to think.
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By the way, we shouldn't. That is our job as humans and citizens to make our own decisions and come to our own conclusions.
So here's what we know about Prime Minister Orban.
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We know that the leftists in Europe and America don't like him. We know that the global left-leaning mainstream media doesn't like him.
We know that George Soros doesn't like him.
Speaker 1 So far, I love him based on that. Now, I'm going to admit that I don't know a lot about the Prime Minister.
Speaker 1 I've obviously done my homework, but like the American media, I will not pretend to be an expert on Hungarian politics or history, so I will not lecture Hungary on being Hungary as they don't try to tell us or judge who we are or what we do.
Speaker 1 However, when it comes to human rights, we all must take a stand and never again turn a blind eye when there is warning signs.
Speaker 1 We must never forget the Holocaust or the actions and words that led to it. So let me be very clear on some of the facts.
Speaker 1 Some of the things sound really interesting and correct if you're trying to preserve a nation.
Speaker 1 But at times, especially recently, there have been things that have the Prime Minister has said that seem very alarming. So, let's take these.
Speaker 1 On the AGREE side, Prime Minister Orban has secured their border against the dictates of their own federal government, if you will, the EU.
Speaker 1 They have made their immigration policies similar to how ours used to be.
Speaker 1 He has also cracked down on sexually explicit education in classrooms. He's put a strong emphasis on religion, family, and advocated strongly for his country's social and cultural identity.
Speaker 1 Now, on the alarming side, he has recently made statements that sounded way too close to Joseph Goebbels to go unanswered.
Speaker 1 If he means, if the translation is correct, and he meant mixed races the way the early 20th century progressives and Margaret Sanger, oh, and Hitler meant them, then obviously I cannot stand with the man.
Speaker 1 Here's what he has said in the English translation. One half of the world where European and non-European peoples live together, these countries are no longer nations.
Speaker 1 They are nothing more than a conglomeration of peoples. So far, so good.
Speaker 1 As he differentiated between, quote, a world in which Europeans are mixed together and one in which migrants are, quote, occupying and flooding the West, so far so good,
Speaker 1 from
Speaker 1 the outside they come, he stressed, quote, this is why we have always fought. We are willing to mix with one another, but we do not want to become peoples of mixed race.
Speaker 1 Okay, that's problematic. What did he mean? The rhetoric like that is disturbing, and very much the rhetoric we have heard coming out of Germany in the 1930s.
Speaker 1 I have a very long record of warning of the old hatreds and rhetoric against the Jews that has come from both the European left and right.
Speaker 1 Remember, both Russia, the communist, and Germany, the fascist, exterminated Jews because both of those philosophies are rooted in Marxism. Progressivism is also rooted in Marxism.
Speaker 1 So is Orban a Marxist? Is he a progressive? If so, I have my answer, but even if not, in what context do we trust a man who's talking about mixed races if that's what he meant?
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It is vital to separate eugenics, superior races, and replacement theory from cultural preservation. Huge difference and no middle ground.
I'm against the first, but a strong supporter of the latter.
Speaker 1 Where is Prime Minister Orban?
Speaker 1 Now, one more thing. The media says that he has, quote, presided over significant democratic backsliding over the last decade by consolidating control over Hungary's judiciary.
Speaker 1 But it is my understanding that he has not asked for a study, nor has he suggested to pack the courts. He has also, they say, consolidated control over the media.
Speaker 1 Does the American media mean that he's like the Democrats here and has co-opted the media to do his bidding? Or is it that he's in bed with social media to limit
Speaker 1 speech and quash debate?
Speaker 1 They also say that he has consolidated control over civil society. Now, I imagine that means he's cracked down on George Soros.
Speaker 1 Or is it that he has shaped what is taught in schools?
Speaker 1 But has he, like President Biden's administration, called parents terrorists who disagree with him and disagree with what is taught and set the state police out to harass, intimidate, and monitor those parents?
Speaker 1 If he's done any of those things, I'm against him, and the media should love him.
Speaker 1 As a guest today, we have the political director of the Prime Minister and member of the Hungarian Parliament, Bolaj Orban.
Speaker 1 He's here to explain what the government is really all about and what he meant. It's not up to any member of the media to decide for you.
Speaker 1 I think you should hear it from the horse's mouth and decide yourself. But pay attention because words do have meaning.
Speaker 1 We are honored to have the
Speaker 1 guest in today,
Speaker 1 the political scientist member of the Hungarian Parliament and the political director to the Prime Minister Viktor Orban in our studios in Dallas. I'm sorry I'm not there myself to greet you.
Speaker 1 His name is Bolaj Orban, no relation to the Prime Minister.
Speaker 1 You guys have taken an extraordinary stance against George Soros, which makes me one of your biggest fans, just based on that alone.
Speaker 1 Why is that?
Speaker 3 George Orch is a very talented Hungarian man.
Speaker 3 You have to know that.
Speaker 3 But the role he is playing in Western politics, I don't think it's a good role. So
Speaker 3 and probably here in United States, he can also cause some troubles.
Speaker 3 But in a small country like
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Hungary, his influence and this is money is it can be a game changer. So, and he doesn't like to be democratically elected.
He just wants to influence things from behind the curtains.
Speaker 3 So, there was one day in Hungarian history before 2010 when we had a left-wing liberal, you would call it progressive government in Hungary, then George Shorosz spent more money in Hungary into culture and politics than the Hungarian state itself.
Speaker 3 So, his influence is extremely huge. He's supporting media, NGOs, politicians,
Speaker 3 obviously all representing the radical left-wing progressive side. So
Speaker 3 unfortunately, we don't have independent opposition. George Schoesh owns them.
Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he's making a huge difference here in America and all throughout the West. I can only imagine what a small country he could do.
Speaker 1 So is he he's not welcome, nor his NGOs or his money in Hungary? Is that is that what you've done?
Speaker 3 Um obviously not not welcomed, but uh but uh
Speaker 3 but they are operating there. He has more than sixty
Speaker 3 they are operating there. There there was one um there was one issue with the um pro-migration institutions because after the migration wave when, as I was mentioning you, uh 400,000 people um
Speaker 3 simply attacked the Hungarian southern borders and we established a fan that that he he financed all the migration aid and supportive NGOs.
Speaker 3 And according to our understanding, it was a clear step against our own national interest and national security interests.
Speaker 3 So this is the field where we reacted in a very hard way and we blocked the activity of those NGOs. But but he is he is still there, he is still he had still has his candidate in politics as well.
Speaker 3 And he is using his international
Speaker 3 organization team to put pressure on us. That's an everyday issue for us.
Speaker 1 Let me go to gay rights. We have.
Speaker 1 I think America has gone off the deep end. I think we are the farthest out into the deep waters on much of this cultural stuff.
Speaker 1 And one of them is sexual identity. There is no man, there is no woman, it's what you decide today, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 And I know there was a referendum and it passed overwhelmingly to stop this in the Hungarian schools.
Speaker 1 However,
Speaker 1 there is a difference between that craziness and
Speaker 1 people being allowed to live their own life.
Speaker 1 You defined in the Constitution marriage,
Speaker 1 no, sorry, a family as
Speaker 1 a man and a woman and children.
Speaker 1 Does that exclude
Speaker 1 everything else? Yeah, no, not can gays get married or not?
Speaker 3 Not at all.
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All the people are equal under God. That's the Christian thought, what we also follow.
And
Speaker 3 all men can do
Speaker 3 whatever they want.
Speaker 3 It's also about their
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sexual orientation. So it's a free country in that sense.
They also have civil partnerships, so they can...
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You can call it a kind of a marriage, but what we call it civil partnership. So it's available for them.
Meanwhile, it's not available in other countries. But it's not about that.
Speaker 3 It's about the children.
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It's not about the gay people. It's about the children.
It's about the gender propaganda which,
Speaker 3 as in the United States, it started to affect
Speaker 3 the sexual orientation of minors, of kids in schools, in kindergarten, through
Speaker 3 some NGOs, through the media. And we stood up last year and we passed the law and you can't imagine
Speaker 3 what a scandal emerged in the European Council. All the other European leaders, they gone mad.
Speaker 3 And actually they blocked
Speaker 3 the funding, so the financial support which which is coming to Hungary from Brussels because of that, which is actually ridiculous and totally unacceptable.
Speaker 3 So, we had no chance to turn toward our voters. What do they say?
Speaker 3 And as you said, it was one of the most successful referendums in the history of Hungary. So,
Speaker 3 95% of the people said no. to sexual, any kind of sexual orientation in schools, in kindergartens, through media,
Speaker 3 and gender reassignment, and so on and so on. So, they said they sent a very clear sign that they don't want to follow that pattern.
Speaker 3 What we see, I don't want to judge what is going on here in the United States, but we definitely don't want to follow that kind of pattern.
Speaker 3 And if you want to stop it, you have to take action immediately. That's what we've done, that's why we are under pressure.
Speaker 1 You kind of sound like
Speaker 1 a Hungarian version of Florida,
Speaker 1 from what I can see.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 as long as you're not scooping people up with different lifestyles or harassing them or pushing them out of society, then you would be.
Speaker 1 Let me turn to Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 1 I am now reading things that seem to be leaking from the White House, that they're concerned about President Zelensky, they're concerned that this isn't going well, and maybe they've made a mistake.
Speaker 1 Some of us have felt that way for a long time.
Speaker 1 You have felt that way, or your government has felt that way, that it was wrong, if I'm not mistaken, that it was wrong for Russia to go in, and they shouldn't have done that, but we should be brokering for peace
Speaker 3 this is the hungarian
Speaker 3 yeah yeah this is the hungarian position at the very beginning we condemned russian uh aggression currently we are hosting uh more than one million uh ukrainians uh who passed our borders we are welcoming them some of them are staying some of them are going further but uh but uh
Speaker 1 but with
Speaker 3 but we're doing our job uh but uh and we supported the sanctions all the sanctions which were accepted by the Europeans, because unity was very important.
Speaker 3 But from the very first moment we said that our strategy, that the Ukrainians, with the support of
Speaker 3 the Western countries with military equipment, they will be able to stop the Russians. and the economic sanctions will be effective against Putin.
Speaker 3 This is a miscalculation. That's what we were representing from the very first moment.
Speaker 3 And it seems that it turns out that we were right.
Speaker 3 So unfortunately the thing is that the Ukrainians, they fight in a very, very brave way, but
Speaker 1 they will all go away.
Speaker 3
It's about manpower. and compare Russian manpower to Ukrainian manpower.
It's about, unfortunately, about the numbers. And there will be one point
Speaker 3 where the Russians will do the breakthrough, and then the situation will be even worse for Ukrainians and for the whole Western world. And the other part of the story is a sanctioning regime.
Speaker 3 And the fact is that
Speaker 3 probably it was a good idea to stop
Speaker 3
energy export from Russia. or try to stop energy export from Russia to Europe.
But they were able to find alternative models and the prices are so much higher
Speaker 3 than they can earn their money which is needed to finance the war machine. That is the reality.
Speaker 3 I know that something else is coming through the liberal media but this is the everyday reality what we experience and I can see in Europe that countries are suffering, economies are collapsing, the inflation rate is
Speaker 3 skyrocketed and instable governments like the government in
Speaker 3 the UK, like the government of Italy, like the government of Bulgaria,
Speaker 1 they already collapsed.
Speaker 3 And we are in the middle of summer. So what will happen during the winter time?
Speaker 3 A very tough time.
Speaker 3 So
Speaker 3 what our recommendation is that we need strong Euro, we need strong America. We need strong American leadership and peace, immediate peace talks between America and Russia.
Speaker 3 That should be done and that should be the interest of the West as well.
Speaker 1 So the media says that conservatives care about Hungary because we want to be fascist, which is the furthest from the truth. What is it that you think
Speaker 1 captivates conservatives? What do we have in common, and what don't we have in common?
Speaker 3 That's an elephant and mouse situation, where a relationship where
Speaker 3 we are the mouse, and the American conservatives are the elephants.
Speaker 3 But I think what
Speaker 3 Hungary, what role Hungary can play is that
Speaker 3
we have a clear-cut conservative Christian government for like 12 years. And the country didn't turn into a bad direction, just the opposite.
It went to a good direction. Unemployment rate went down.
Speaker 3 GDP growth,
Speaker 3 the numbers are very good,
Speaker 3 the society is flourishing, number of marriages went up, number of divorces and abortions went down, fertility rate is up,
Speaker 3 safe
Speaker 3 Hungarian cities are safe and sound, we don't have drug problems and so on and so on. So I think I think
Speaker 1 and you don't have gulags and secret police.
Speaker 3 Sure, sure. Without these things,
Speaker 3 we could achieve that. So I think it's a proof that if you stand up for
Speaker 3 your values
Speaker 3 and you can formulate a stable government, which can exist for a longer period of time, then you can bring prosperity for your country. So I hope the same for the great United States of America.
Speaker 1 Thank you so much for being on with us. And
Speaker 1 we look forward to talking to your Prime Minister
Speaker 1 in the future.
Speaker 1 We appreciate you guys making this track out here, and I hope that the American people will make up their own minds as they listen to the entire context and
Speaker 1 not just what the mainstream media cares to regurgitate. I wish you well.
Speaker 3
Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Mr.
Beck.
Speaker 1 God bless Hungary. All right, back in just a second.
Speaker 1 Oh, boy, am I going to pay for that interview? Oh, my gosh, gosh glenn beck the nazi of course he's with oh geez
Speaker 1 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
Speaker 1 so i think the first my first encounter with lauren bobert was when um
Speaker 1 she came out, if I remember,
Speaker 1 with a Glock on her hip, and she was telling Democratic presidential candidate Betto O'Rourke,
Speaker 1
hell no, you're taking my guns. No, you're not.
And
Speaker 1 I've loved her ever since. Lauren Bobert, how are you?
Speaker 2
I am doing great, Glenn. You know, that was a fun and sassy day.
I didn't really know what I was getting myself into. I was just a pissed-off mom and a gun owner.
Speaker 2 And I heard the Democrat playbook just announced from a presidential debate stage, and nobody was saying anything to this guy.
Speaker 2 So, drove three hours to his presidential rally with my Glock on my hip, looked him in the eye and told him, Hell no, you're not taking our guns.
Speaker 1 Look at us now.
Speaker 1 Yeah, look at us now. You are hated
Speaker 1 by a lot of people.
Speaker 1 How does that feel as a person?
Speaker 2 Well, I don't get my value from the media, from the left.
Speaker 2 I know who created me, and I get my value from my creator. I'm not going to look to
Speaker 2
some made-up false thing to get my self-worth from. So I don't really mind that they hate me.
And it also lets me know that I'm on the right track because they cannot stand the truth.
Speaker 2 They hate virtue. They hate anything that is good about America.
Speaker 2 And so whenever they come after me, I'm like, all right, we're doing good.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, you know, you talk about virtue, but you had an abortion
Speaker 1 six months. Was that Ted Cruz's?
Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh, goodness.
Goodness.
Speaker 2 I didn't know we were going to terminate another Ted Cruz baby today.
Speaker 1 Yeah. No, I mean, this is the stuff.
Speaker 2
They cannot attack me personally enough because they always stretch it too far. And now they just completely make it up.
They completely fabricate it.
Speaker 2 There was these lies saying that there were two
Speaker 2
terminated pregnancies. I was an escort, a stripper, an addict, all sorts sorts of things.
And, you know, people get tired of it. And they're like, you know,
Speaker 2 it really discredits anything that they're trying to do because it's so out of touch.
Speaker 2 But that's all right. We'll have my lawyers handle that one.
Speaker 1 It amazes me that CNN
Speaker 1 talked to the guy who made those things up. And he said, you know, okay, so there were some inaccuracies.
Speaker 1 I don't know, accusing a woman of having an abortion after being a stripper and a drug user and a prostitute, that might be a little more than just inaccurate. Right.
Speaker 1 And CNN has even said
Speaker 1 they asked him to, are you going to apologize? Has he apologized to you?
Speaker 2
No, no, no, no, no, no. He doubles down on a daily basis.
He stands by his claims, stands by his anonymous sources.
Speaker 2 So, no, this is not something that he's backing down from. And frankly, neither am I.
Speaker 2
You know, and it's interesting. You know, I have four boys.
I had, gosh, a stretch of nine years of pregnancies and toddlers and whatnot. And
Speaker 2 they could have picked any date to make up these terminations, pregnancy terminations.
Speaker 2
And they picked two different dates where I was pregnant with children that I had, right smack in the middle of the pregnancies. Like, that's the best you could do.
You couldn't get their birthdays.
Speaker 2 Wikipedia, I know Wikipedia can't even get my birthday right.
Speaker 1 Now, yeah, and you know, CNN, while they said these are inaccuracies and he admitted to them,
Speaker 1 they still go on to say
Speaker 1 these things are not proven.
Speaker 1 Instead of calling them a lie,
Speaker 1 they just say they're not proven as if somebody could prove them.
Speaker 2 Still taking that as a victory from CNN. I can't even believe we got the article that we did from them.
Speaker 2 But yeah, no, for them to still go on with that and not say, no, this did not happen,
Speaker 2 they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1
So you have a new book out called My American Life. Yes.
And
Speaker 1 as I gather, I'm sorry I have not read it,
Speaker 1 but
Speaker 1 you are somebody who started out, you were working at McDonald's, you know, weren't stripping or being a prostitute, but somehow or another you made it. Maybe I would have made more money.
Speaker 1
You know, yeah. And we are.
We're living in a time now where everyone is being told they can't make it. They can't do it without a government handout.
Speaker 1 What's the message of My American Life?
Speaker 2 So the message is you absolutely can, and you do not need the government's handouts to get you through life. In fact, it puts you in a cycle of poverty that traps you.
Speaker 2 I was raised in a Democrat household, and I wanted to tell my story because the fake news tries to tell my story for me, and they get it so wrong all the time. I said, I'll just tell my story myself.
Speaker 2 But I was raised in a Democrat household. My mom, she moved us from Florida to
Speaker 2 a little apartment in Aurora, Colorado. And the man that she moved in with, we soon found out that he was very abusive,
Speaker 2 abused her, abused drugs and alcohol, and it left her looking for answers. She went to Democrat politicians for answers, and
Speaker 2 they said, this is the way that you are successful, that you could be successful, take care of your children. And it was welfare.
Speaker 2
So I've stood in line for government cheese. I've stood in line for bread.
And I've been in that cycle of poverty that is impossible to get out of.
Speaker 2
because every time mom wanted to try something else, they would say, no, no, no, you can't do that. You won't make it.
It won't be enough for your family.
Speaker 2
And so at 11 years old, I knew that that was not America's best. I started working at McDonald's at 15.
I'm so glad that there was a minimum wage low enough that they could invest in me.
Speaker 2 at 15 years old. Correct.
Speaker 2
I had no experience. I had no work ethic.
And they were able to invest in me and teach me those qualities at 15 years old.
Speaker 2
And I just remember getting that first paycheck from McDonald's and it was so great. I learned two things.
First of all,
Speaker 2
I didn't like this FICA guy that was taking all my money. And I didn't remember him stuffing fry boxes with me.
I couldn't recall him standing next to me, but somehow he got most of my money.
Speaker 2 But also just the pride and empowerment of having put my hand to something and creating wealth. And so I began to become a self-taught conservative.
Speaker 2
And I saw that these principles truly lead to a better life. And I went on to marry my husband.
We have four boys.
Speaker 2 I ministered to women at the Garfield County Jail for several years and then opened up businesses, opened up restaurants in Rifle, Colorado, one of them being Shooter's Grill that really took off nationally.
Speaker 2 But it was so great to bring these women from the jail who felt like their options were expired. And I was able to introduce these women to the God who turns their shame into glory.
Speaker 2
And then once they got out, say, it's not over. You can have a successful life.
And I was able to bring them into my home. I was able to offer them jobs.
Speaker 2 And this was so much more powerful than a government handout. And I saw these women just have tremendous lives afterwards.
Speaker 2
So all of these values have led up to this. You know, I have a passion for justice, the Constitution, our country.
And I don't want my boys to be raised in a socialist nation.
Speaker 2 I don't want them to live in a socialist nation. So I'm here to preserve America.
Speaker 1 Well, they
Speaker 1 hate you
Speaker 1
on the left. They absolutely despise you.
And you've been called every name
Speaker 1 under the sun. Right.
Speaker 1 Let me,
Speaker 1 before I get into why is it that they hate you, let's stick to your story here
Speaker 1 for just a second. Sure.
Speaker 1 You volunteered your time. You were not a politician
Speaker 1 at this time. Volunteer your time.
Speaker 1 And you then
Speaker 1 take these women who have just left prison and you hire some of them and they go to work. And do you stay in touch with any of them?
Speaker 2
There are a couple that I have stayed in touch with. Most of them have moved out.
Unfortunately, we've seen some that, you know, got fallen back on hard times and reverted back to their old ways.
Speaker 2
But we have some great success stories too. Many would come to church with me and bring their families to church eventually.
It was really a beautiful experience.
Speaker 2
And so I've seen just so much joy. I've seen them clean up their lives and just have this complete restoration.
And to be able to watch that process was amazing.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 you're doing all of these things.
Speaker 1 And then what makes you want to get into politics? Yeah.
Speaker 2 Well, I really was just tired of politicians saying one thing on the campaign trail and then then getting to wherever we send them and doing something different, whether it's the state capitol, Washington, D.C.,
Speaker 2
or even our mayors. You know, they say one thing to get elected.
They say they have these platforms and policies and then they do something completely different. And it let us down.
Speaker 2
And not only that, I saw too many politicians giving away our freedoms. Our freedoms don't come from politicians.
Our rights do not come from politicians. They don't even come from the Constitution.
Speaker 2
They're guaranteed by the Constitution. But these are our God-given God-given rights, our natural rights.
And so it's so frustrating when I see politicians, elected officials, give away those rights.
Speaker 2 I mean, we're battling that right now in Washington, D.C. with our Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 2
Two stinking Republicans passed Nancy Pelosi's AR-15 gun grab. Two Republicans did that.
Democrats didn't do that. They didn't have the votes for it.
They couldn't even pass a kidney stone.
Speaker 2 Republicans passed that for her.
Speaker 1 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Speaker 1
Lauren Bolbert is with us now. She's going to be speaking on Saturday at CPAC in Dallas.
She's in for the day, and then she flies back home, and then she's back here on Saturday for the speech.
Speaker 1 I'm going to be speaking right around the same time, and President Trump is also speaking on Saturday.
Speaker 1 Lauren, I have to ask you, and you may not want to answer this question,
Speaker 1 is Nancy Pelosi senile or just drunk all the time?
Speaker 2 You know, you don't see her in person. I promise you, it is so much worse in person.
Speaker 1 Really?
Speaker 2 Yes. And the house chambers,
Speaker 2
the temperature is kept very low. It's very cold in the house chambers.
And I figured it out.
Speaker 2 It's to preserve Nancy.
Speaker 2 I believe it saves her a lot of time.
Speaker 1 She's like a Walt Disney.
Speaker 2
Yes. I believe it's to save on a lot of the cosmetic features.
And, you know, we're
Speaker 2 saving her on the Botox cost. But also, it's very important that the temperature is just right in the house chambers because if it gets too warm, her eyebrows will begin to melt.
Speaker 2 And then we can't see how high inflation really is.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 I really want to know, is she senile or is there something else going on? I because she's really
Speaker 2 she makes a point to say on a regular basis that she does not drink, which tells me she's probably drunk.
Speaker 1
Well, that's the way, that's the way they do it in the Democratic Party. That's right.
Look, they're a fascist. Yeah, they're the fascists.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 Talk to me a little bit about ESG and the Great Reset. What do you know about it?
Speaker 2
So I want to know a lot more about this. I have read your book, The Great Reset.
I've read it once. I've listened to it twice.
Great audiobook.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 2
so, like, I have a lot of plane time. And I want to understand this so much more.
I want to partner with you on this. This is scary stuff.
Speaker 2
And they put it right out there, right out in the open, the World Economic Forum. And they're just candidly, here's what we're doing, guys.
What you going to do about it? And modern monetary theory.
Speaker 2
And I see this happening in Congress on a regular basis. They just spend money, spend it, spend it, spend it.
More and more debt. And they believe that this is the answer.
Speaker 2 Climate change, that this is the existential threat
Speaker 1 to the world.
Speaker 2 These ESG ratings that
Speaker 2 we're not going to be able to get anything without that. Aren't you being rated with your ESG and how environmentally friendly you are? And, you know, I mean, they're not willing to give.
Speaker 1 Go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 1 No, I was going to say, I'm currently
Speaker 1
at my ranch, which is, because I'm way up in the mountains, it's completely off the grid. So I have to use solar and everything.
But because of that, I know solar power, wind power, it is not
Speaker 1 ready for prime time.
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 1 Yesterday, we had to fire up the generators, what, by 8 o'clock in the the morning? Because
Speaker 1 we already were using so much juice
Speaker 1
that I couldn't go on the air with the power that we had. I mean, it is not ready for prime time.
And we are dumping all of our security for this pipe dream of zero emissions.
Speaker 2
Yes. You know, so I serve on the Natural Resources Committee, and this was a priority for me coming to Congress.
I represent Western Colorado, Southern Colorado.
Speaker 2 We have some of the richest resources in the world right there under our feet, but politicians are regulating our communities into poverty, forcing us to keep it in the ground.
Speaker 2 Our forests, they want to lock those lands up so we can't extract any of these resources
Speaker 2 and utilize them.
Speaker 2 But it is so important
Speaker 2 right now to be energy independent. We have to get back to that.
Speaker 2 I fight these guys on a regular basis in the Natural Resources Committee. They want to outsource our energy development to our adversaries.
Speaker 2 They claim this moral high ground, and they're really just not my backyard extremists.
Speaker 2 I've seen the billionaires in New York who say, you know, well, sure, I vote for
Speaker 2
the wind turbines, but they're going to put one right next to my house across the street. Can't they put it down farther? Again, they don't want to see that.
They don't want to be impacted by that.
Speaker 2 But also here in the committee,
Speaker 2 they're fine with having 40,000 children mine with their bare hand for cobalt in the Congo, owned by China.
Speaker 2 And then that cobalt, those rare earth minerals, they go to China and we buy solar panels from them and somehow feel good and virtuous about ourselves, get to pat ourselves on the back.
Speaker 2 Look how green we are. So it's really disgusting fighting this, but also
Speaker 2
it's so deceptive. Look, you're using generators right now.
You are off the grid and having to use generators for your energy. These electric vehicles,
Speaker 2 how many of them have we seen
Speaker 2 hooked up to a generator? And I don't know if you know this, Glenn,
Speaker 2
but I'll let you in on a little secret. The electric vehicles, they don't even have gas pedals.
They have coal-fired energy pedals.
Speaker 1 They do.
Speaker 1 You said
Speaker 1 earlier this summer that the church is supposed to direct the government.
Speaker 1 And everybody labeled you as a white Christian nationalist. First, I have to ask, are you a white white Christian nationalist?
Speaker 2 Well, Adam Kinzinger says I'm a Christian Taliban, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 We'll take our pick.
Speaker 2 No, no, no. So this is so funny.
Speaker 2 The church is supposed to influence the government.
Speaker 2
And the Democrats want to flip this and make it something that it's totally not. They want to say that I'm for theocracy.
I'm not for a theocracy.
Speaker 2 We have a great constitutional republic, and I'm here to defend that.
Speaker 2 But the church needs to get involved because if we stay silent, we lose by default.
Speaker 2 I believe it was John Adams.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 it's not the government that influences, all right, sorry, it's not the religion or the church that influences government. It influences us,
Speaker 1 hopefully, to do the right thing, and then we influence the government.
Speaker 2
Correct. Well, when I say the church, I'm talking about the people.
So when I get up in a church and I say good morning, church, I'm not talking about the building.
Speaker 2
I'm not talking about how they file. The church is the people.
And
Speaker 2 that's not just four walls.
Speaker 2 So
Speaker 2 I guess I can expound on that a little bit. But
Speaker 2 John Adams, you know, he said that this country was made for a moral and religious people, for Christians.
Speaker 2 And, you know, and I'm so glad that we have the freedom of religion and people can express their religious beliefs. If they're Christian or if they're not, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 We have that freedom here.
Speaker 2 We don't have,
Speaker 2 they fled a state church. They didn't want that.
Speaker 2 They didn't didn't want the government determining religion.
Speaker 2
But we absolutely have a part to play, and we cannot remain silent. We have to be involved.
We have to speak up. We have to be loud and be in front.
Speaker 2 You know, they want to make this about my religion personally. They want to attack my religion personally.
Speaker 2 They want to attack Christianity
Speaker 2
and single that out. Look at the Supreme Court victory that we just had with the coach who's praying on the field.
They want to single him out. They want to cancel him.
Speaker 2 But the Supreme Court said, no, you have your religious liberties and you can go ahead and pray in school. Well,
Speaker 1
they fail to recognize that they themselves, wokeness, is a religion. Correct.
It has all of the markings of a religion. You can't argue with it.
You can't
Speaker 1 deviate from it.
Speaker 1 There are high priests that can destroy you and call you a heretic. Yes.
Speaker 1 You know, it either has redemption or no redemption. I mean, it is a religion.
Speaker 2 Yes, absolutely. Well, and to the left, government is God.
Speaker 2 You know, so they don't believe that there is a higher deity than government, and that's why they want this totalitarian rule. You know, I just think it's awful that a pastor,
Speaker 2 a pastor, a father, a priest, whatever you may be, a deacon, could stand up
Speaker 2 and not be able to talk talk to his congregation about politics, about government.
Speaker 2
And the left wants to completely end that conversation, but yet those politicians can go to that church and shut them down. They shut down our churches.
That is our First Amendment right.
Speaker 2 We not only have the freedom of religion, we have the freedom to assemble. And they shut down our churches.
Speaker 2
And now those pastors are not allowed to say anything about the politicians that shut them down. Correct.
Because of separation of church and state.
Speaker 1
Right, which is a misunderstanding. It is a misunderstanding.
By the way,
Speaker 1
all those politicians will go to lefty churches and speak about politics there. Absolutely.
And that's not the government's fault. That is the church's fault
Speaker 1
for being afraid to speak out. They're afraid.
They think that they will
Speaker 1 lose their 501c3 or whatever. And that's not true.
Speaker 1
It's not true. They have a right to do that.
Yes. Yes.
And should. Right.
Speaker 1 So
Speaker 1 let me ask just this
Speaker 1 last question.
Speaker 1 Is it
Speaker 1 better,
Speaker 1 worse, or about what you thought
Speaker 1 going to Washington and working in Washington?
Speaker 2 All of that.
Speaker 2 It is what I thought because it's very difficult. It's very partisan,
Speaker 2 unless, you know, we have a couple rhinos passing stuff for Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 2 It's worse because I didn't fully understand the self-governing majority rule of the body and that Nancy Pelosi can literally make up whatever rules she wants.
Speaker 2 She could put up magnetometers for the members to go through, fine you $5,000 for not wearing a mask. I've been fined because I wasn't wearing a mask in the house, not doing it.
Speaker 2 All of these rules that she can do,
Speaker 2 that's really bad.
Speaker 2 It's really bad that we can't have debate and regular order and actually add amendments amendments to bills
Speaker 2 and actually have committees where legislation goes through the committee of jurisdiction before it goes on the floor.
Speaker 2 Nancy Pelosi will just pull a bill out and send it to the floor without it going through committee. And it's very frustrating.
Speaker 2 But it's also better because there are more members of Congress there that are...
Speaker 2
are there for the right reasons. They are principled.
They are here for our country, for our people. They love people and they're there to do the right things.
Speaker 2
I thought I was going to find maybe four of them. And there are quite a few more than that.
And that is something that is very inspiring to me. These are the people that I like to spend my time with.
Speaker 2 I don't like to spend my time with the lobbyists on K Street. You know, I want to be around
Speaker 2 virtuous people, righteous people who care about our country and want to get this back on the right track, want to tackle inflation, want to secure our southern border, want to take care of these gas prices, and so much more.
Speaker 2
And so these are the people that I spend my time with. And that makes it so much better than I thought it was.
And then just seeing the hope that people in America have.
Speaker 2 I have the privilege of traveling all across America trying to get more conservatives like me elected to serve with me.
Speaker 2
I travel my district very, very heavily. And seeing the hope that people have that we will turn this around.
And I know that there's hope, Glenn.
Speaker 2 I would not leave my four boys and my husband every day to do what I'm doing if I didn't think that we could fix this.
Speaker 1
Excellent. Thank you so much, Lauren.
Thank you for your service.