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Jason Buttrill, head writer and chief researcher for "The Glenn Beck Program," joins to discuss the Left's grooming of your children and the corruption of the Biden administration. Blaze podcast host Rabbi Daniel Lapin joins to discuss the message of Passover and the freedom religion brings. It’s Tax Day, so Glenn and Stu discuss the joys of where their tax dollars go.
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Don't you, Stu?

Oh, I sure do.

Yeah,

great.

So we gave you even more today on today's podcast.

Actually, it's the same amount, but they'll never

special because it's a tax.

It's the same amount of effort that the government puts into spending your tax dollars while it's not that high.

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We're so glad that you've joined us today.

We've been talking about the grooming that is going on in our schools, and that is exactly what it is.

It is grooming.

And Wednesday, we have a special on Project Groomer.

It is

a plan to brainwash your kids.

And I know that sounds crazy, but it's all right there if you choose to look for it.

Jason Batrill

is with us now, and he's outlining all of this and getting it ready for Wednesday's program.

You want to touch base on that just a little bit?

Oof.

Like, there are times in this job when I wish that I didn't know what I know.

It's like that scene in The Matrix where that guy's like, should I eat the steak, you know, and know that it's not real?

Or just is ignorance is bliss?

And I'm on that verge of, is ignorance bliss or should I know this?

I don't want to know this.

I know.

It's one of those things.

Stu, you remember us having that conversation about 2010?

We were all, we were all being red-pilled and we're all, we all went, I, oof,

we go down this road further and we're really going to not be happy people because we won't be able to just relax and enjoy things.

Yeah.

And it's hard.

Yeah.

You go numb after a while, Jason.

You'll go.

Oh, I'm definitely there, I think.

I mean,

after this many years,

I'm still amazed by how shocked I can get over everything.

And you think that you're safe, like in the Bible Belt, you know, like ah, Texas, you know, places in the South.

We're fine.

I'm, I'm just reading curriculum from Austin ISD and it's all in there.

It's all in there.

And, you know, we've, we've have parents, we've done a good job, I think, over the past year.

And I think we've been winning the culture war on this.

I I mean, I think one of the big reasons the Democrats are taking such a hit is because of this.

Yeah, but then we go back to sleep.

Yeah.

They say, okay, it's fixed.

And then we all go back to sleep and they put it in anyway.

They say things like, oh, we're not teaching CRT.

Don't worry about CRT.

Or, oh, we're not teaching comprehensive sexuality education.

We're not doing that.

And one of the things we're going to show is there's a reason why they can deny these things.

It's because there is, I'm just going to call it a triangle.

There is a triangle.

It's part of a curriculum and it goes all the way up to the CDC, all the way up to the CDC for years, brought in by woke activists, leftist activists.

And there's three different parts of their overall plan.

If you think you're fighting CRT and that's your battle, that's one third of the battle.

One third.

Comprehensive sexuality education, radical gender theory,

another third of the battle.

There is a larger plan here.

And I just discovered this.

I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got questionnaires going that we're going to show on Wednesday where they're showing five-year-olds, giving five-year-olds a questionnaire to ask them what their gender identity is.

Five-year-olds.

Here's the thing.

I really think it's time for somebody,

and I'd back it 100%.

Somebody needs to start abolish the Department of Ed.

Oh, absolutely.

Abolish the Department of Ed.

It is.

past time to abolish that.

And it has to be.

You must have local control.

And it's much easier to pay attention to it when all of this stuff isn't being fed down the pipe with national money.

Yeah.

Abolish the Fed.

All right.

Let me turn the topic here to what Durham said,

because you and I worked closely on the impeachment thing, and we did the impeachment specials and everything else.

I wanted to get your opinion.

Special Counsel John Durham asserted in court

in a filing on Friday that the CIA concluded data from the Clinton campaign lawyer, Michael Sussman,

alleging coordination between Donald Trump and Russia was, quote, not technically possible.

And it was, quote, user-created.

What does that mean?

User created.

So, I mean, go back to one of the indictments that's already happened, that lawyer, the FBI lawyer, Kleinsman.

So he was indicted for lying, basically for

drumming up evidence.

He changed an email

so that that could continue to go for the FISA.

So this is basically the same thing.

User created is the people that were working for the Clinton campaign actually injected and created this damning information so that they can get...

So basically they fabricated evidence and then handed that off to the FBI.

Now, I think it's really interesting that the FBI is not being implicated here.

They're not saying, hey,

there's no evidence that the FBI doubted this at all.

But of course they didn't, right?

Because they were all in bed, all the way from the top, from the director down to people like Andrew McCabe.

They were all involved with this.

Now we have people from the CIA saying, well, we looked at it and it's kind of obvious.

And of course, this is leaked as well.

So none of this was real, making this even worse.

So it's injecting false information into this.

Now,

you and I have done so much digging on this and reporting on this.

We know all the other people that were involved and this is what's pissing me off about this me too because who who is who is getting the who is getting hit with this a lawyer yeah listen to this in the filing durham responded to objections from sussman's defense regarding what evidence could be admissible at his trial which is scheduled to begin next month sussman is accused of lying to the fbi saying he was not attending a meeting on behalf of a particular client when he was actually presenting the information on behalf of the hillary clinton campaign and a technology executive with whom he had worked.

So

why isn't the Hillary Clinton campaign in trouble?

Why is the lawyer going to be the fall guy?

Do you think he did that on him by himself?

Do you think that

she was shocked and horrified when she found out?

Compare this to like a mob investigation.

Yes.

Or I'm deep into the motorcycle community, like a motorcycle gang or something like that.

Now, how do they go after those two organizations, you know, specifically?

Leaders.

RICO.

Leaders, right.

They use RICO to go after the leaders.

Now, why aren't they doing that to the Hillary Clinton campaign and Hillary Clinton herself?

Can I tell you something?

There are so many RICO cases that are out there right now that should be RICO cases.

This is one of them.

This is one of them.

The Federal Reserve, I think, is a RICO case.

ES straight up.

And what's happening with BlackRock, that's a RICO case.

There are so many RICO cases right now, and all they're ever going to do is fish for the small fish.

They're never going to go for the big ones.

Oh, my gosh.

People like, I mean, think of all the people that were involved here, not to mention the FBI.

We've got people

from the DOJ.

We know this.

This is fact.

People like Bruce Orr funneling in for all this information, funneling it

directly to the top.

Why aren't they implicated in this?

Why is it the lawyer, the guy in the middle, that he's the guy that accepts it?

He's like, okay, fine.

If I screw up, then i'm going to jail why is that accepted why isn't it just him the guy that he's the fall guy we've got a fall guy everybody knows he's the fall guy for the bigger fish they won't go after the bigger fish it's ridiculous so then what we found out on friday is do you remember that thing where they said they had this computer server that was pinging the russian bank alpha completely made up the fact that donald trump has a russian phone with him and we can track it it's with him all times times.

He can make calls to somebody, we don't know who, but somebody in Russia anytime he wants, and it's with him in high-level media in meetings.

Untrue.

Right.

Untrue.

The

FISA filings, untrue.

Proven now, untrue.

All of these things, including the steel dossier, proven untrue.

And it all goes back to Hillary Clinton

and Hillary Clinton's use of the

FBI, Justice Department, the NSA, the CIA,

all of them, all of them were in on this.

Yeah, and so we know from the F, so from the CIA leaker that's saying, look, we knew it was user-created.

We knew it was bullcrap.

I'm sure the FBI did too.

The CIA can't get involved.

So that's the FBI.

The whole point of this, remember, the whole point in the beginning was just to funnel false information, get get it to the FBI so that

the media can then get that leaked and say, look, the FBI is looking into this.

This looks really dirty.

Donald Trump must be a Russian asset.

And then public opinion takes it from there.

I mean, this is election interference is what this is.

I mean, they never intended, I don't think, to get an indictment on Donald Trump.

They just wanted public opinion to take it from there and to tank his campaign.

That's what this was all about.

But again, I don't want, look at you have people involved with the bigwigs of the FBI, Hillary Clinton herself, all These are the people that we should be looking at.

Not a lawyer.

Like all these other people, they were the ones directing it and facilitating it.

I don't care about this lawyer.

I mean, sure, he should go down with the rest of them if he's found guilty of funneling all the time.

But he's not the guy.

But no, he's not the guy.

It's like, you know, delivering the message.

The justice of Watergate is not happening.

You know, even with Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden, he'll go down.

Most likely, he'll go down.

But will his dad?

I mean, we have stories that are much gee who said this in 2008 when it all is said and done

this administration meaning the clinton biden obama uh era will go down as the most corrupt in all of american history and it is All of the things that they built at that time are all, all those chickens are now coming home to roost.

And

is anyone at the highest level going to pay?

This is the problem with America.

I think most Americans, Republicans and Democrats, independents, we all want the same thing.

We all want the bad guys,

legitimate bad guys, to go to jail.

I don't care if they're Republicans or Democrats.

I don't care.

I want the bad guys to go to jail.

And they won't.

I mean, the bad guys will get away with it.

And I would have been there on the front lines with,

remember when we started the impeachment thing?

And what did I say to you?

We have got to turn over every stone.

And if the guy is guilty, he's guilty.

Let the chips fall where they may.

That's not the way it's done in America anymore.

And that makes us just another awful, awful country that's run, you know, like a.

a banana republic.

Yeah.

You talk about countries like Ukraine or whatever.

It seems like they have a corruption officer at the airport and they'll just like kind of pull you into whatever scheme the moment you step off.

That's what it felt like when we were doing all that, you know, all that research on Ukraine.

That was then.

Of course, you say that now and they'll call you a Putin stooge.

But pointing out the obvious, you know, now is a crime.

But I mean, how different are we, really?

I mean, this is embarrassing.

And the entire world is watching this.

I mean, we laugh when people like Putin get like 97%, you know, favorability rating, you know, or whatever.

And we're like, oh my gosh, that's so stupid.

The system's so corrupt.

Look at us.

Look at us.

I mean, we can't even acknowledge the obvious.

We have to let a lawyer go down for the things that he's being told to do by the highest echelons of government within the FBI,

the Clinton family.

I mean, come on.

I mean, it's just, I highly, at this point, it's sad to say I highly doubt anything even happens.

I highly doubt it.

And I think we even called this out on one of our show, where like the middlemen are the low-level people would be the ones that will go down.

there's another story uh democrats now are blocking the republican efforts to upload hunter biden's laptop into a searchable digital format into the congressional record it's already been accepted but but are you ready

uh

uh apparently uh jerry nadler has said we don't have the technology to upload that into the congressional record.

And so, so he wanted everything on paper so it could be scanned in,

but then that doesn't make it searchable, does it?

So, they are now

conferring with lawyers back and forth.

It's been accepted.

That's bizarre.

Yeah, we just don't have the technology.

Like, why would a New Yorker have that accent?

I don't know.

That is bizarre.

Such a jerk.

Thank you very much, Jason.

I appreciate it.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Rabbi Lappen.

Everybody needs a rabbi, and you are mine.

How are you, Rabbi?

Couldn't be better, Glenn.

It's so lovely to hear your voice again.

I was trying to think how long you and I have been friends.

It's a long time, really.

Yeah, it's been.

Thank you.

I cherish the friendship.

Yeah, yeah likewise so um i want to talk to you first of all about this this op-ed this oh yeah

your thoughts on it well it's written by just yet another infantile secular jewish neurotic and um and there's a lot of them around it's it's tiresome you know frankly uh life's too short to waste time with that rubbish

okay

i like that i mean your first clue is that the new york times published it right right.

The problem here is that I can't.

I mean, honestly,

this is a guy who has been shaking a defiant fist against God

since he's bar mitzvah.

And

it's tiresome to be subjected to it.

You know, his aunts and uncles

probably tried to shut him up all through his adolescence, but now he has an audience, so he keeps at it.

It's an interesting thing, but

would this have been printed 20 years ago, Rabbi?

In the New York Times.

But not in the New York Times.

Right.

So there's always been this interesting phenomenon, which is when,

for the most part, when Christians lose their faith or never accept their faith, then they're neutral.

You know, they really don't waste a lot of time and energy blasting Jesus.

I mean, you just don't get a lot of that.

But it's a weird thing about Jews, and probably

one of the most valuable and credible validations of the story of the Bible.

The fact that Jews are so different from everybody else in this area, when Jews abandon the faith of Abram, Isaac, and Jacob, they don't become neutral.

They become rabid secularists

and invariably join the ranks of radical socialism, almost always.

I was watching the Ten Commandments this weekend with the kids, and I noticed something that I had never noticed before.

By the way, did they play the opening of Cecil D.B.

Oh, yes, we did.

Yes, we did.

That's really important.

No, I know.

And I really kind of listened to it kind of for the first time.

I mean, I used to always watch it, but I never really listened to it.

It is very important.

And I stopped it there and I told the kids, do you know that the first scene that they shot was Exodus?

I don't know if you know this, Rabbi.

He shot Exodus first, that big scene with all those extras.

He was sitting on a chair and he reaches over to the assistant director and puts his arm, his hand on his arm and said, I don't want you to react to what I'm about to tell you, but I'm having a heart attack.

And he looked at Cecil B.

DeMille and went, wait, what?

And he's like, I told you not to react.

If we stop filming today, this film will never be made.

So I'm going to sit here and have my heart attack, and you're going to listen to what I say, and you're going to direct it.

And he did.

And that night, they took him to the hospital, and he had a heart attack.

But anyway, my goodness.

Something you may not know is that the prop of the actual Ten Commandments he arranged to be carved out of rock from Sinai.

You may not know this,

but we have

the Ten Commandments

from that movie.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, Yeah, wow.

But I didn't know that.

When I've been with you,

I really...

Please, I've got to look at it.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's the rock of what?

It was

carved out of rocks from Mount Sinai.

Wow.

Have you seen the

video of

the area in Saudi Arabia that's being protected by the king?

Yes, I'm quite sure they're correct.

I'm quite sure that that is actually the real location.

Really?

If you haven't seen this online, you should watch it.

I don't remember what I did.

I can't remember the name of the terrific guy who did that whole movie

and made the movie, but I do think he's correct.

Oh, that's unbelievable because it's all right there.

I mean,

you see the altar with the calf, you see the split rock.

I mean, it's incredible.

I think he has the geography and the timeline exactly right.

Wow.

Okay.

So,

Rabbi, I wanted to ask you a couple of questions.

One, as I'm watching the Ten Commandments, it is so important,

and I noticed it for the first time, that Cecil B.

DeMille is saying, this is the beginning of freedom, the end of slavery.

Yes.

Tell me about that, because that's not the way, I mean,

it's more of a, I've always perceived it as more of a story of God than the Ten Commandments.

But that part is really important.

The role it plays is very significant.

In other words, we don't observe the SETA just as a commemorative event of a historic event that took place 3,300 years ago.

No,

it's actually, we play it as an annual, I don't want to use the word vaccination anymore because

I'm down on those.

So I'm going to say an annual, how about if I say inoculation

against being subject to the voice of the powerful and the many.

And so it could hardly be more applicable to our current time in the United States of America where people's lives are being oppressed by wokeism and by radical leftism.

And the theme is this, Glenn.

You know, in May 1954, something really significant happened, which is that, well, if you're into athletics, what happened is that for the very first time, the four-minute mile was broken.

Roger Bannister broke the tape at 3.59,

and nobody had ever done it before.

But here's the funny thing.

In the following year,

about seven athletes broke the four-minute mile, and then every subsequent year to the present day, more and more and more athletes were to this day, you know, college athletes regularly break the four-minute mile.

So

what changed?

Why is it that a year later, seven guys were able to do it, but prior to that, nobody had been able to do a four-minute mile?

What Roger Bannister did was profound.

He showed that it could be done.

Because up till then, doctors had said that people would die in a four-minute mile attempt.

It's not doable.

Because, you know, the experts always know best.

But Roger Bannister, a medical student himself, paid no attention to that and just calmly went ahead and ran a four-minute mile.

The fact that something can be done is hugely important.

The deep human belief that something is impossible will absolutely tyrannize one and render one's efforts completely futile.

If you don't believe, and this this is part of what

athletics coaches do, it's part of what motivational work does, if you don't believe deep in your heart that what you're attempting to do is doable, you probably won't make it.

And your likelihood of success is vastly increased by the knowledge, conviction, belief that you will and can do it.

And so up till that point, the concept

that a people can free themselves or be freed by God from a tyrannical set of circumstances is hugely important.

And perhaps in my lifetime, perhaps no more important than it is right now, where

people are being oppressed by the United States government, people are being oppressed by wokeism at colleges and in the university system, in the public school system, which I call government indoctrination camps.

I don't call them public schools anymore.

People

there is a whole area of research, which, interestingly enough, Russian scientists have done some good work on, that oil is not the result of decaying vegetable matter, but it's actually a chemical process that takes place under high temperature and pressure deep underground, which suggests an explanation for why it is that many oil fields, like one in Louisiana most notably, that was declared to have a lifespan ending very soon, seems to have

been reborn and the reserves have increased.

It's as if new oil is being made.

You're not allowed to say this because it violates the whole doctrine of shortage and scarcity and

people's lives.

There are scientists who've told me,

I'll point you in the direction of some research, I'll give you some books, but I will not publicly allow you to quote me as saying this because I don't need my life destroyed.

And this is the message of Passover.

Are we able to to stand up to the tyrants?

And some of us can, and some of us can't.

It's as simple as that.

You know, I don't blame anybody who says, look, I want to be able to continue feeding my family.

Back with Rabbi Lapin here in just a second.

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IRS is scrambling today.

They only have 15,000 employees to answer thousands of calls.

Wow, I feel,

you know, I feel really bad for them.

Do you?

That's how I feel today.

Right.

I feel bad for the IRS employee

who's sitting there just not able to get through all those times they need to harass the American people over the money they didn't earn yeah you know that is what I feel today and

I've just overwhelmed that side of the feeling with the feeling of great charity and the work that I'm doing for this thank goodness you said that yeah because I have I'm sure I have built countless turtle tunnels all over the country.

You know what, Glenn?

Even you, a man who's been taxed

like a probe from an alien for the past 20 plus years, without the alien baby, you probably

have still not paid for any full turtle tunnels because they probably

cost a billion dollars apiece.

You're right.

You know, every once in a while, I think about that.

This is the darkest.

This is the darkest you'll get about your country.

You'll see some dumb program that cost

$7.9 million on a turtle tunnel.

And you'll just be like, gosh, that's unbelievable.

And then I want you to stop and think about it.

Because if you're the average American, you,

in your entire life,

all of the taxes you will ever pay will not even fund that one turtle tunnel.

Nope, not one.

Not even one turtle will cross underneath the road.

All of those hours, all of those hours that you have worked,

half the year for some people, half of the time that you spend working,

it won't even finish a turtle tunnel.

Nope.

Not even one

government waste project will you fund in your lifetime.

Let me think about how, think of the despair you should feel

today.

Because, you know, it's not even, like, people are like, oh, well, you know, there's a lot of people who need things.

And the government does important things for important people, for certain people, does a lot of important things for important people too.

That's a whole other situation.

But like the basic idea that, okay, we're helping.

There are people who cannot do it and they need help.

There's an orphan somewhere who needs a meal and, you know, somehow they've fallen through the cracks.

And we, okay, let's just say that person exists.

I'm sure somebody does.

Certainly some people are helped by government funds at some level.

But it's like, you know, so little of your money ever goes to anything like that.

It's just a waste.

If they turned it all off tomorrow, if they turned the income tax off tomorrow, we would go have to, we'd have to figure out how to go back and live like we did when we spent like the Barack Obama presidency.

Just the time from the beginning of Barack Obama to now.

is the entire income tax is how much we've increased the budget.

So you could turn it off, off,

and we'd have to go back only to Barack Obama's spending levels.

We are so completely out of control.

And now we've come to a point in our political back and forth in which there is no other side to the argument.

There's only, let's spend a, you know, a $3.5 trillion and let's spend $2.5 trillion.

When the Republicans get in control, they do the exact same thing as the Democrats, except maybe a little less spicy.

And so we're all eating the same foods, just one has more Tabasco than the other.

And that is not a way of doing it.

You did your own taxes, didn't you?

Yeah.

I did tell you.

You did.

You did?

What do you think my afternoon is?

If tonight's Studos America sucks, you know why, because I couldn't spend a minute on it.

Instead, I had to work on my stupid taxes and not my actual taxes, Glenn.

No, no.

I...

have to spend more time today like I did all Easter weekend on my extension to my taxes because I don't even have all the forms yet.

The people who I have to go and get forms from are not even able to turn them in.

They need an extension to send me the forms.

So now I need an extension to send in my taxes so that they can hold on to my money for just a little longer, a little longer, and then maybe I'll be lucky and get a refund of my own money.

Won't that be a miracle?

It will because the money you gave them, you know, a year ago,

that's worth about 17 cents less on every dollar.

Right, right.

Yeah, taxes during inflation, it makes it even more fun.

Oh, yeah, because everyone looks at this, like, I got a refund.

Like, this moment of pride, the government has given you a gift of a refund.

They've held your money hostage through a high inflation period, and now they might give some of it back to you, which is worth almost 20 cents less.

And they're not even going to give it back to you on time.

Yeah.

As they're saying now, they're delaying these quote-unquote refunds

for months and months and months.

Because as you know, Glenn, they only have 15,000 people to harass everyone.

So

all the time that you could have had that money, even if you put it in the most basic.

account and get a couple of percent, you'd still be able to close the gap as to what they're going to give back to you, but you can't even do that.

Mark this show on the calendar because I think we're going to come back to it in a couple of years and we'll be like, Look, we talked about it and everybody said it wouldn't happen.

Just imagine how much we're going to love it when we have a Fed coin.

Oh my gosh.

And you won't have to worry about paying your taxes, it will just never be put into your account.

That'll be because the Fed will be able to decide what's taxable and what's not.

So you won't have tax day, They'll just take it.

And it really in the way of you're guilty until proven innocent, because there's got to be some way to go, no, wait a minute, part of that was,

you know, a deduction for this, this, and this.

And then they'll have to look at that and go, well, I'm not sure.

All right, we'll give you a Bitcoin.

Go get some mouse food.

Incredible.

And there's no way to know.

I mean,

the amount of work that I've put into this.

Now, look, I do procrastinate a bit, and I will admit, although the forms come in so late, there's no way you can't start it in January.

You have to wait until all the stuff comes in to actually be able to do it, to go through everything.

It's, you know, some tax returns I've done in my life were pretty easy.

You know, and I, by the way, I should point out, I'm not doing it, I'm just doing the preparation work so that the accountant can do it.

I have no idea what she does.

She gets all these payments.

I see these out of these forms.

I have no idea what happens.

Magic.

And I've said it.

I've said, because I've been audited before,

and oh my goodness,

I thought I was being visited by aliens.

Anyway,

it's not a fun process to go through.

In my case, it ended up, it was either even or they owed me like $200, something like that.

Because I overpay.

Yeah, that's what I say the same thing every time.

No, at least that's what I say.

If it's a question, if there's any doubt, let it fall that way, not my way.

Err in the government's favor because I don't know if everybody can be harassed.

Right.

I don't want to be harassed.

I don't want to go through it.

I don't want to have to cough up money.

Just let it go in there.

But I don't know.

And so many things now, like cryptocurrency.

Oh, my God.

How do you even, they don't even have the law.

They don't have the rules.

They don't have any idea.

how to prepare it.

You could go to the IRS and they won't really even know.

It's all guesswork.

It's so true.

You go to go look at some of the cryptocurrency like tax forums on like Reddit and all these.

And it's everyone just asking, what the hell are we supposed to do with this?

And people linking to article after article after article trying to explain how to treat

some complicated cryptocurrency transaction on your taxes.

It's like, you know, people, look,

I really hate taxes.

I really hate them, as you may be able to tell in this segment.

But like, I want.

I love them.

I mean, don't, but I'm trying to be like, I, you know, when people are like, well, I don't want X, Y, and Z, and that's why I don't do it.

I don't follow the law.

I just, you know, I want to follow the law.

I believe following the law is an important thing that a civilization needs.

Okay, I, even with laws that you don't love.

I think that I couldn't, I could not gauge America today anymore, but I think when I was growing up, and I still have this ethic,

I don't mind paying taxes.

I do mind paying unfair taxes, but I still pay them.

Yes.

But I'll make my voice heard.

I don't like this.

This isn't right.

However, I'll pay them.

And I think most Americans don't approach their taxes with anything other than, I just want to get this done and I want to get it right.

I just, you know what?

I don't want any hassle.

Just let me pay my fair share, whatever that is, even though it's probably not fair.

Let me just pay it.

I think most people go that way.

I think you're right.

I don't think people necessarily are trying to evade their taxes.

They want to just get it done and get it right.

They prefer if the government did something of value with their money, which they never seem to do.

Never.

But

you put up with it.

It's just, it's a part of life.

Like, there are roads I want to go faster than the speed limit.

And, you know, sometimes maybe I do a little bit, but generally speaking, you keep it in line because, you know,

we're a rule-following society generally.

how did we get this system other than it has to be because the progressives did it how do we get the system in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty

how is it we are with the irs we are guilty until we bring this stuff to show we're innocent yeah it's incredible it's just a total reversal of everything the country stands for yeah and you know remember the country when it was founded didn't have this no they they were they specifically needed to pass a constitutional amendment to even allow this to occur to you.

This was not supposed to happen to you.

Progressives.

Yeah.

They passed it.

And what did they say, Glenn?

Never higher than, what, nine or 10%?

No, they said it would never be for anyone

that made less.

I can't remember than like, it was an extraordinary number back then, like $100,000, which was like $2 billion.

$2 million today.

And they said it would be never more than 5% to 7%.

And then

only a few years ago.

It was like two years later, it was at 10.

And then it was 10.

And it was way down for everybody.

Everybody started to pay taxes.

And then as soon as one of the wars hit, was it the

First World War?

It went up to 75%.

At some point, it was at 95%.

Top income tax rate.

That was, I think, under Roosevelt.

Yes.

But there were all kinds of loopholes.

If you were newly rich,

you hit the non-existent lottery back then and you had all that money, you wouldn't have the sophistication or the attorneys to be able to find all the loopholes for you.

You just paid and it was 95%.

But if you, you know, if you had the money and knew how to work the system, you didn't pay that.

And a lot of that's still happening.

Still happening.

Still happening.

Like, I mean, if you're mega, mega, ultra-rich, you, you, you find ways to pay lower taxes.

I mean, you know, there was a big.

But they're all legal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you know, Donald Trump was amazing when he was accurate, when he said, yeah, I may pay lower taxes.

That's the way the system works.

Change it if you don't like it.

Yeah.

And he's absolutely right.

Everybody, of course, is trying to pay as low a tax as they can.

But who is trying to pay more?

Nobody.

And you know this because they put

an address where you can give gifts to the U.S.

government every year.

If you believe your tax burden is too low, you can give gifts to the U.S.

government to spend against their general fund, and which they can pay for taxes.

I think progressives should be doing that.

And no one does.

No one does.

I think there's like one or two, isn't there?

Yeah, they usually get a few every year.

Yeah, they get a few.

A few bucks, but it's like not a lot.

It shows that this idea that taxes should be higher is something they utilize to punish others.

They don't care about it themselves.

They want to punish others.

You know, and they've done this forever.

People, you know, Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders comes out there.

I mean, he was was asked about it in one of the debates.

It's like, hey, you keep saying taxes should be higher on the wealthy.

You're the wealthy, and you don't give more than

you're supposed to.

Why?

Why don't you just implement this policy for yourself?

Wow, because it's not the system that I would think they would really be able to handle.

Okay, all right.

Thank you.

No, no, no, no.