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We started the show with this FBI announcement that just happened last Friday about white supremacists being the biggest threat to the nation.

Completely unrelated to the fact that the FBI

had questioned 16 times the guy who went into the subways and shot a bunch of people.

Not 17 times.

Not 17.

So I don't know why you're being so critical.

Correct.

And, well, they probably didn't hold him because he wasn't white.

And he was somebody who was a white, sorry, a black supremacist.

So it didn't fit into their...

into their narrative.

Also, we have Carol Roth on today.

We had Matt Kibbe talking about what's happening in Shanghai.

It's terrifying.

Yeah, complete shutdown.

Was it 30 million people, something like that?

And as he says, it's not, you know, some village with a hut.

This is their financial center.

And it's terrifying what is happening there.

Also, the second episode in the Search for America's God.

Today,

I think you're one step closer to understanding what is wrong with our neighbors and our friends and our nation.

Why are we headed down the way we are?

And what does it mean?

Part two of our four-part series today on America's God.

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So last Friday, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas declared,

it's not Alejandro

Mayorkas.

I got to be able to do that.

Pat can really do that well, you know, when you're watching TV and somebody who is as white as I am.

And then

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas declared white supremacist and domestic violence extremism to be the most prominent threat currently facing our country.

The timing couldn't have been more perfect because

just a few hours later, a jury in Grand Rapids, Michigan

exposed the Justice Department's largest alleged domestic terrorism case in the last 18 months as a failed FBI entrapment scheme designed to smear conservatives as white supremacists ahead of the 2020 election.

This article is from the

Federalist, I think.

Yes, the Federalist.

By refusing to convict four men accused of plotting to kidnap and kill Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer before Election Day, the Grand Rapids jury seemed to side with the defense attorneys who argued their clients were not domestic terrorists, but entrapped by undercover FBI agents and at least a dozen informants who planned and funded the kidnapping operation.

The key to the government's plan was to turn general discontent with Governor Whitmer's COVID-19 restrictions into a crime that could be prosecuted, defense lawyers wrote.

The government picked what it knew would be a sensational charge, conspiracy to kidnap the governor.

And when the government was faced with evidence showing that the defendants had no interest in the kidnapping plot, it refused to accept failure and continued to push its plan.

Now, what's interesting about this is the guy who was overseeing this particular operation has been transferred.

He was transferred to Washington, D.C., given a promotion, and he's the guy overseeing the January 6th plot.

Okay,

so

the FBI is very, very, very busy because they know white supremacists.

That's what is coming for everybody.

Okay.

Be careful.

You may not be white enough.

Okay.

Because I hear it's an albino mob, okay?

And the first sign, that's why I'm wearing pink contacts right now, first sign, you're not really an albino, oh, they, they burn a,

it's not a, it's like a hexagon in your front yard.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

I don't know what the hexagon has to do, but it's not a cross.

It's another symbol for not being albino.

The hexagon.

Anyway,

so the FBI is looking for these crazy white, white, white, white, white, really white, almost pinkish white extremists.

And that may be why they missed Frank R.

James.

Now, Frank R.

James,

not an albino.

He's, quote, a troubled man who railed against Mayor Adams and made bizarre threatening rants on YouTube?

Huh?

So YouTube, he had a page on YouTube

where he was saying crazy things

like.

Did you?

Because this is, I heard this from a lot of sources yesterday, that he was making bizarre, angry, violent, racist

threats.

Yeah.

And, you know, before they released the picture, man, they seemed to make that broad enough to it's almost as if they wanted you to think of a of a particular type of person perhaps an albino who

damn albinos they're out of control My apology to the one or two albinos that are not violent extremists.

I'm sure they're out there somewhere

they're roving mobs But it was amazing that that was the way it was

they didn't say it was anti-white racism probably because they've spent the last 10 years telling us it's not possible.

You can't, reverse racism isn't real.

It's not possible.

It can't occur.

So how did this guy have racist rants in the first place?

So he said things like, it's just a matter of time before these

black MFers decide, hey, listen, enough is enough, and these white people need to go.

Oh, no, wait, it's the exact opposite of that.

It's just a matter of time before those white MFers decide, hey, listen, enough is enough.

These N-words got to go.

On YouTube, as of yesterday, these

white MFers, this is what they do.

Ultimately, at the end of the day, they kill and commit genocide against one another.

What do you think they're going to do to your black ass?

Okay.

And what are you going to do?

You're going to fight?

And guess what?

You're going to die.

Because unlike Zelensky in Ukraine, nobody has your back.

The whole world is against you, and you're against

effing yourself.

So, why should you be alive again?

That's the question.

Why should an N-word be alive on this planet besides to pick cotton or chop sugar cane or tobacco?

Now,

this is allowed on YouTube, but

some of my opinions on the lab leak for COVID banned.

But this is allowed.

I just want to say

that's interesting.

And we all agree, I think we'd all agree, this guy is crazy.

He's crazy.

But isn't that what the press and social media have been telling us that us crazy white conservatives are doing to the crazy people in our audience.

Winding them up.

It only takes one crazy person that happens to be listening.

Where did he get the idea the whole world is against you?

Why should you be alive?

Why should an N-word be alive on this planet beside to pick cotton or chop sugar cane or tobacco?

No one

has your back.

Because that's almost

the progressive bumper sticker.

It's just a message of despair.

Despair.

It's just telling a large portion of the country they will never be successful unless, of course, their white savior Democratic politician steps in to bail them out of their terrible, terrible times with these evil conservatives.

Let me tell you this.

I cannot say this to you

and make you this promise like I could have 10 years ago.

10 years ago, I would say to you, you can do anything,

anything.

You can break all barriers.

This isn't the 1950s.

And

I speak from experience as a guy who was the first to go to college and couldn't afford it in my 30s more than one semester.

There's nobody in my family that was college educated.

I made it.

I built it.

I went against the system.

The system, I came into talk radio

making fun, correct me if I'm wrong, making fun of talk radio.

I went into television.

making fun of television,

breaking all of the rules, doing it my way, not the way everybody else.

Then, when they didn't accept,

we built a network, the first network.

No one had ever done it.

HBO wasn't even on yet on the internet with live streaming.

We were the first.

I'm sorry, Major League Baseball was the first.

We were the second into the boat.

And look at it.

Now, I'm not the smartest guy in the world.

I mean, if you've listened, you know.

But what I have is a belief in myself.

I have a belief in common decency and common goodness.

I have a belief in the system

that good guys don't always

win.

Good guys sometimes lose, but in the long run,

that truth wins.

And nobody really cares about your problems you know why because everyone has their problems and everybody has them of differing degrees but everybody thinks that their problem is the biggest problem

you go into somebody's office and you're like hey I got a real problem the boss is thinking oh really really you know what I'm dealing with today

You want problems?

Let me sit down in your office and tell you some problems.

Okay.

But they don't say that because their job is to listen to you, to help empower you.

Now

everybody's got a problem and they have to wear it on their sleeve.

Now the system is so corrupt that unless you have money, unless you have the right point of view, unless you vote the right way,

I don't know if you can make it.

That's new for me.

I have always been a champion of the underdog in

no other country than this one.

Now I don't know,

but I will tell you, we're still out blazing trails.

We still are optimistic about our future somewhat.

Let me make you this promise.

If you adhere to a universal moral code,

if you adhere to do unto others,

love thy neighbor,

if you can accept Glenn Beck's top 10 rules for life,

formerly called the Ten Commandments, you're going to be all right.

You'll make it.

You know why?

Because you'll be on the side of God, the universal truth maker.

And as long as you remain on his side,

everything's going to work out.

May not be your dreams.

I can't tell you.

This isn't exactly what I planned.

You know, when I started radio, this is not what I planned.

In fact, this is nothing like I planned.

However,

it's good.

There are no mistakes and no waste in God's universe.

No waste.

It's amazing how much you can screw up your life.

And if you just put it on the right track and stay with Glenn Beck's 10 really good safety tips, formerly known as the Ten Commandments.

It's amazing how all of that wasted time, all of that wasted energy, how how all of those mistakes

will be used,

not by you, but by him, somehow or another to put you right where you're supposed to be with all of the skills that you needed.

Don't listen to anybody who says you can't do it.

Don't listen to anybody who is saying the whole world's against you.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

My goal is to be like, what was the priest's name that was down in the basement of the concentration camps, remember?

And they just, the guy was so positive all the time.

They're like, okay, we got to just starve him to death.

And they put him in a basement and he got all of the other prisoners to start singing hymns.

And now they really wanted to kill him because he was starving to death.

He went blind from starvation.

He was in so much pain.

And yet he was still singing.

He was happy.

I want to be that guy.

Minus the starving in the basement of the concentration camp.

But I want to be that guy.

He didn't think the world was against him.

And boy, he could have.

He knew what was true.

He knew the value of his own being.

And he knew who he answered to.

There's nothing more important than learning that.

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Carol Roth, the author of The War on Small Business.

She calls herself a recovering investment banker.

She is somebody who is trying to look out for the little guy and can explain what's happening to the little guy in normal terms, which is my biggest frustration when you watch anybody who knows anything about the economy.

Carol, welcome.

Thanks, Glenn.

I have some bad news.

I'm sort of processing this right now, but I don't think we're going to save the 16 cents on our 4th of July barbecue this year.

Sort of becoming very clear to me, and I'm just trying to process this.

Wow, that's believe me, I think that's going to be trending on Twitter on July 4th on how much everybody is spending.

Let me start here: 8.5%.

In 1980,

the highest inflation rate was 14.6,

and we had 20%

mortgage rates.

2022, according to Shadow Stats, which is calculating the way we calculated inflation in 1980, our inflation rate is 17.1%

and our

mortgage, I mean, our lending rates are now 0.5%

to the banks.

That seems a little crazy.

Yeah, it seems like a little bit of a mismatch of policy.

Obviously, a lot to unpack there, but this is why people are so angry with the Federal Reserve.

They have been on the forefront of causing this issue by artificially suppressing interest rates and printing trillions of dollars that have, in part, caused this inflation.

And then, you know, they were buying securities, putting them on their balance sheet, part of what suppresses interest rates up until last month.

Then all of a sudden, they got the wake-up call going, oh, boy, you know, inflation's pretty high, even though it's been trending at, you know, incredible levels for well over a year.

And, you know, now all of a sudden, oh, we have to do something and they're still not doing it fast enough.

But the rub on all of this is it's very hard for them to do anything without putting us into a recession.

So they are caught between a rock and a hard place.

Yeah, kind of, oh gee, I remember saying this, kind of at a place where there are no good options and they're out of bullets.

All right, so let's go back to the stats of 8.5%.

This is so misleading because they'll say it's the highest in 40 years, meaning it was worse under Jimmy Carter.

But I contend it's not worse.

I mean, it's not, it was not worse in the 1970s and 80s.

It's worse now by far because we're at the beginning of this.

Can you explain shadow stats and what you understand?

Is this credible to be able to say, let me look and calculate it the way we used to?

Sure.

So I, to be fair, I've looked at shadow stats.

I have not been able to go through.

It would take lots of modeling power

to be able to go back and replicate it.

But basically what they've done is they said, you know, there have been a lot of shifts here, both in the 80s and the 90s in terms of the way that the government calculates inflation.

And this should should be of no surprise to anyone.

They want to keep the headline inflation number down.

Also,

also, though, isn't Social Security-based increases based on CPI?

You just read my, this is exactly where I was going with it.

So they have a couple of, no, this is good.

We're always Sympatica on these things, Glad.

So the reason why they want to keep the headline number down is because it allows them to print more money.

It keeps you from panicking.

But like you said, there are a lot of things that

the numbers for inflation feed into, like, like you said, Social Security and other programs that have cost of living adjustments.

So this is another way for the government to continue to cheat.

So what Shadow Stats has done is they said, well, let's go back to the best approximation we can make of what happened before the 90s changes, before the 80s changes, and let's calculate it.

And if they looked at the rate, it's about double of what is being reported.

And you can just look at some of the key categories, things like rent and hotels and whatnot, on what they are reporting and go, yeah, you know, that makes sense.

You and I can go to the grocery store.

We can, you know, try to shelter and feed our families and go get gas.

You understand that it's not just 8.5% inflation.

So this is trying to give you that apples-to-apples comparison.

And, you know, by my estimation, it seems like it's in the ballpark.

Yeah, which is 17.1%

inflation rate this month.

In 1980, it was 14.6.

That was the top of it.

We're not at, are we at the top of this?

Well, that's a great question.

Today we got a number.

There are different measures of inflation.

The CPI is sort of a consumer survey one that's used.

Today we got something called the producer price index, which is a measure of wholesale inflation.

Okay,

is this the

shows us what may be coming our way?

Because these are the raw materials that it takes to make things that we eventually buy?

Yes, this is the inflation in the inputs to the goods and services.

And it is a lagging indicator because you obviously have to have that inflation number, know what that is, but they haven't gone into that finished price that has gone to the consumer, what the consumer is paying yet.

So this ends up meaning that what we're seeing today is going to impact what we're seeing going forward.

Now, obviously, the gas prices are moving around, so it's going to be different headline versus looking at what's called core inflation, which strips out food and energy prices.

But given the fact that at the producer level, today we got a number that is the highest level on record, Glenn, the highest level, 11.2%

at the wholesale level.

That's 11.2% increase, which again is probably understated, that is going to flow through goods and services that we're going to see in the coming months.

That's the current way.

Did they ever calculate?

They changed this calculation every day.

Of course,

they changed the whole name of the index, right?

You know, they said, well, we're not going to do it this way anymore.

We're going to have a different way to do it.

We're going to have a new name.

We're going to brand it.

It's going to be great.

So this is where these changes.

But

this is the highest number, even with all of the changes.

This is the highest number ever recorded.

So, based on this current index, this is the highest number number ever recorded.

Holy cow.

Yeah, I mean, it was staggering, 11.2%.

Okay, so why is this a,

I would think this is a leading indicator, because if the prices to produce things are more expensive today at 11% more expensive, that means that it's showing me that when it finally gets a finished product and it's at, you're going to be paying at least 11% more, right?

Yeah,

we're saying sort of the same thing in a different way.

What I'm saying is that it lags what shows up in the CPI inflation number.

So you have not seen it yet because it hasn't hit it yet.

So we're both saying the same thing and just with just slightly different words here.

So

what can be done here?

You know, it's a really good question.

Obviously, a lot of people are looking to the Federal Reserve to get us

out of this with monetary policy.

The challenge is I don't think they can do that without causing a recession and major carnage in the economy.

Because at this point, all the things that have led into this,

the monetary policy, the fiscal policy, the disruption in the supply chain, it's created this systemic supply imbalances.

Monetary policy can quell our demand.

It can make us go, oh, we're not going to get a mortgage because it's at 6%, or we're not going to spend as much at the store.

But how does it fix the fact that we have 1.8 jobs available for every worker?

How does it fix the fact that we have four to five million homes

that are underbuilt at this point in time?

How does it fix the fact that we've underinvested in energy and

healthcare infrastructure?

So it's, you know, the things that they would have to do to make those changes, there's a huge disconnect.

And as I said, I think it would be really ugly for the economy.

So

this could, it will probably at some point come down on a headline basis.

But that is the growth rate.

It doesn't mean that we're not going to have elevated inflation and continued pain for a very long time.

So

when we look at things like what's happening over in Shanghai, where they've shut everything down, and where's that story?

China has stranded 30 million truckers.

30 million truckers in China are now stuck at home.

What is this going to mean?

This impact, we felt it last time that China shut down, but we shut down as well.

This time we're not shutting down.

What is that impact going to mean to us?

Yeah, well, obviously, it's not a good thing for supply chains, for the companies that are still depending on China.

I think internally to China, it's a huge issue because they are a net importer of not only energy, but food.

And so, you know, what does that mean in terms of the potential for some of those people to have pretty substantial food insecurity or starvation if they don't get things going again?

And certainly, as we know, that the reverberations about all these decisions around the world could lead to other issues, social unrest and whatnot,

which

we are all connected.

And so that even though we'll be in a better position, it doesn't mean it won't have real impacts.

And as we know, anytime something has an impact here in America, who feels it?

Is it the elite?

Is it the wealthy?

Is it the well-connected?

Of course not.

They're going to find a way to insulate themselves.

It's going to be the average American.

It's going to be the main street business.

It's going to be the backbone of this country and this economy that bears the brunt of it.

So there was another story that I read today.

Global renewable power prices soar on heavy demand.

That contract prices for renewables in North America have gone up 28.5%

and 27.5%

in Europe.

That's just in the last 12 months.

Gee,

why would that be, Carol?

Well, this is what's called supply and demand, Glenn.

We have underinvested in all different kinds of commodities.

It's not just energy, but it's all different kinds of commodity components, things that are required for decarbonization.

And this huge push has led to increased demand.

And when you don't have enough supply to meet that demand, what happens?

But the prices go up.

If you think about something like copper, you know, it's one of the biggest inputs into energy.

And so, if you're going to have something that is, you know, electricity-based, you're going to need a lot of copper.

There are a whole slew of other materials from aluminum to lithium and whatnot that are used in these sort of green-friendly products.

And again, we have not seen enough investment in order to

fulfill these crazy wishes that the folks who are pushing decarbonization want to fulfill.

By the way, you can ask Carol for answers on anything.

You know,

I said yesterday that,

you know, I've always felt like I was here to warn what's coming over the horizon.

But I also think that it is to empower you.

And information is empowering and to encourage you.

And that means, you know, to just keep doing the things that you know are right, do the next right thing, but also to give you some answers on some things.

And so we've put up at glennbeck.com slash questions.

I think that's it, isn't it?

Is it what?

Contact.

Okay, sorry.

Glennbeck.com slash contact.

You go there and you can ask Carol a question, and if she can, she'll answer it.

Do we have time for one question?

Concerning the economy for Carol Roth,

we don't feel like we can trust our money to be in big banks, but we also know the dollar stands to lose most of its value.

So keeping it in cash is also useless.

What is the best course for us to invest and convert our money to so we'll have something if things change to digital?

Okay, so this is the normal caveat.

This is not financial advice in the legal

aspect of it.

This is just for your own information and additional research.

Okay, so the first thing I want to make sure is that you take care of your near-term and emergency expenses because we do see prices going up.

If something goes sideways, you do want to make sure that you have enough cash on hand to be able to handle that.

But outside of that, you don't want your cash sitting in the bank because it's going to lose value.

You have to be looking at hard assets.

Some of the things to consider is housing.

Now, obviously, as we know, the Fed is increasing those mortgage rates.

So, that is going to have some impact on housing probably in the near term.

But in the long term, we are underbuilt four to five plus million homes, depending on who you asked from the last decade.

Plus, given the prices and what's happened over the last couple of years, we haven't seen that same bump in building.

So, I think that that imbalance is something you want to be thinking about.

Also, having some exposure to tangible commodities, to gold, to silver, to investments in other commodities, again, we've seen some run-up in those.

But if you're thinking as a long-term hedge against inflation, it's something for you to consider.

Please don't, this is just my opinion.

Please stay away from paper stuff.

Correct.

This is physical, especially on the gold and silver metal standpoint, you want to actually have the physical gold.

Yes, exactly, and silver.

And then on the stock side, obviously, you know, with the Federal Reserve raising rates, there's going to be some choppiness.

There's going to be some volatility in the market.

If you are not sophisticated, the SP 500 still gives you that broad diversification.

If you are looking to pick stocks, you're going to look for ones with inelastic demand.

That means that they are able to raise their prices to customers and customers will continue to pay that.

You're going to want to look for ones with strong balance sheets that can weather whatever is ahead and probably ones with extra cash to do some share buybacks because that is going to help with the earnings per share.

30 seconds.

Give me the last one.

Yes.

So in terms of if you look at the central bank digital currency, that's going to come down potentially to bartering.

And if things go sideways, think about things that are going to be a valuable barter commodity as well.

If that happens, just hold, just brace for impact.

If that happens, we have a whole whole bunch of problems.

Carol, thank you so much.

God bless.

Thanks for having me.

It is glenbeck.com/slash contact.

We'll have Carol back to answer some more of those questions.

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Let me play some audio audio here.

This is from Shanghai.

This is looking over like Shanghai's, like almost like Central Park.

It is just high-rise condos and apartments all the way around.

It's at night, and you're hearing people scream.

Matt Kibbe is here to talk about the story.

Hi, Matt.

Hey, how are you?

I'm very good.

What are they saying?

They are basically saying they're locked into their apartments.

They're not allowed to leave.

They have no food.

And they're saying, I would rather die than continue this anymore.

And various versions of that.

The Chinese government is actually flying drones.

telling them to suppress their their souls urge to be free and fall in line.

It is right out of Hunger Games or think about the worst dystopian novel.

Right.

You look at that and it's like a movie and you're just expecting like some superhero to fly in or something.

This is a dystopian movie we've all seen.

That footage is terrifying.

Yeah.

And by the way, this is not some corner of China.

This is the

financial center of their universe.

And it's sort of the logical conclusion of

this idea that government can keep us safe from a virus.

They have this

defined philosophy called zero COVID, which means that we, the government, are going to use all of our powers to stop a virus.

It's something that's never been tried before.

And China has been celebrated from day one, starting with the New York Times and everybody else.

The Chinese model is the model, and they're willing to do anything to prove that their model works.

They're going to kill as many people as they need to to keep people safe.

How are they feeding these people?

They're not.

And this is like sort of an arrogance of central planning technocratic authoritarianism.

The distribution of food has been taken over essentially by the government and it doesn't work.

The food is rotting outside of the corners of the city.

People are not allowed to leave their houses.

They've shut down the entire informal economy that has always been how people get fed.

So this is why they're screaming.

They're starving to death.

And like you said, this is not

some nowhere village.

This is, I mean, that looks like Central Park.

Yeah.

I mean, this is the elite of the elite in the elite city.

Yeah.

I mean, I think

that's why it's so shocking.

And there's so many videos now.

They've actually gotten through all of our tech sensors so that people are seeing this and and for better or worse you know a lot of people started paying attention when they saw videos of these same lockdown police beating uh the pets of the people screaming to death because animals are a potential vector for covid and and people you know they can't see people starving in their apartments they can hear them but they can see the brutality with which they're murdering pets in the street.

So people are starting to pay attention.

And I'm hoping that finally, after two years of warning that lockdowns, you know, they disrupt supply chains, we potentially put people at risk of everything, including starving.

If there's no food, if there's no food production, if there's no food distribution, eventually we're going to be in this same situation.

And I want people to understand that.

Especially since

the reason why these people are not out in the streets is because there is such a tight control on individuals.

They track everyone, everyone.

And if you're out without your phone, there's a drone that comes up to you and says, go back home and get your drone, or they pick you up and throw you away.

If you've ever watched the horrible series called Black Mirror, this is an episode out of there because the Chinese government has the social credit system where

they know your identity.

You have a digital footprint.

They control your bank account.

They control every aspect of your life.

So the risk of leaving your home is that you will be destroyed forever.

You might actually be killed, but more importantly, there's no recovering from getting on the bad list in China.

Bad citizen means that not only you, but your family will pay the ultimate price.

And disloyalty is the one thing that's not accepted.

How far away are we?

Because I remember seeing this, what was this, Stu, two years ago when they were doing this?

And remember, they were welding people into their homes.

And we said, that'll never happen.

And then the drones, that'll never happen.

And then, you know, it started happening even in Italy.

And I still thought, nah, they're not going to do that here.

And then it was here.

Well, I mean, I guess not necessarily the welding and the drones, but a version of that for sure.

A version.

I remember, I think it was Connecticut.

The police were going door to door.

door.

It was Rhode Island.

Rhode Island, yeah.

And we did a, I should say, we did a deep dive on this yesterday and the show that you and I did for Kibbe on Liberty will

air next Wednesday.

And the deep dive here is that this, the Chinese model,

which is directly related to the Great Reset

and

the idea that authoritarians are going to replace personal choice, the logic of this was always about the Chinese model.

And so you see, like, I'm shocked.

We've all been shocked to see just how far Canada will go in terms of debanking the truckers and everything else.

So how far are we?

It depends exactly on how much the American people are willing to put up with.

Because I think that our government is not immune from this gross, obscene abuse of power.

No way.

They'll do it in a a heartbeat.

It just depends if they'll let us.

The emergency, whatever the emergency is, if it's big enough, they will absolutely go to this.

And then there's no, then you're like China.

They can do whatever you want.

Yeah.

Whatever they want to do to you, they will.

And this was our frustration early on when we were complaining about lockdowns.

You know, I'm an economist, so I was geeking out like Carol Roth on supply chains and that kind of thing.

And then we talked about vaccine mandates and vax ports as the infrastructure for a social credit system and being forced to take a vaccine that you may or may not want to do.

These are all components of the Chinese model.

And everybody viewed them as very benign public health measures, but they're quite the opposite.

This is about power.

It's not about health.

So, you know, there's a lot of libertarians that...

Will, and quite frankly, a lot of conservative Republicans too, that will sit back and look at the great reset and say, this is just business.

It's a private business.

They can do whatever they want.

How do you answer that?

It's not a private business in any realistic sense.

And I call it political capture.

A lot of these tech companies that are controlling the narrative that we've all talked about so much,

they're taking a lot of money from the government in terms of ad revenue.

They're essentially accepting a deal that they can't refuse when even the president's press secretary says, you better do something about these dissident voices.

But it's going back to the Chinese model, it's a cozy relationship.

Sure.

The social credit system in China is executed by nominally private interests, banking, tech.

It's not a government program in that sense.

So you have this collusion between big business and big government that is happening in the same way in this country.

And are those corporations captured?

Are they just pursuing higher profits through their relationships with government?

Whatever it is, it's not private.

It's something else.

And it's fascism.

And it's strange because the corporations that are afraid of it and are just falling into line because they see the writing on the wall,

they are already in their,

you know,

their corporate condo around Central Park, ready to get out on and start screaming,

I'd rather die than this,

but they won't.

And now is the time to scream that because it's not completely finished yet.

Once it's finished, not only will some of those corporations regret this,

but so will the average person.

And then you just have to decide.

I mean, people say, how do I prepare?

What do I do?

I keep saying lately, you just have to decide, will you comply?

No matter what they say,

and you have to think, you know, well, yeah, I take the vaccine.

Okay, all right, great.

Will you wear the mask whenever and for however long they tell you to do it?

Will you not stand up in your PTA meeting when they're talking to your kindergartners about transsexual and telling your kindergartner that they may not be a boy or a girl?

Will you comply?

Because it's only going to get worse.

And if you can say, yeah, I'd rather,

you know, I'd rather just comply than have any trouble, you'll be fine.

But if you disagree with anyone on anything, unless you're 100% compliant on whatever else they can think of, you're doomed, right?

Right.

The only answer is peaceful civil disobedience.

There's a lot more of us than there are of them, but somebody needs to stick their neck out first.

It's sort of an act of entrepreneurship in a sense.

Some crazy guy is going to say, you know what, I'm not going to do that anymore.

I'm not going to comply.

And there's safety in numbers and other people follow.

And pretty soon you have a convoy of Canadian truckers shutting down the capital of Canada.

And that's how it happens.

And we watched in real time what the government did.

to those people.

But they also changed the narrative.

I think the only reason that we're not doing employer vaccine mandates in this country is the Canadian truckers.

It makes me very sad that it wasn't

Americans that did it.

That makes me actually proud and makes us feel not so alone that it was Canadians that did it.

Yeah.

And that was a high-profile example, though.

But

wasn't it sort of eroded this entire time?

These mask mandates were in effect in Texas for a long time, and there were periods where I think people sort of paid attention to them, but it went away pretty fast.

I mean, it seemed like there was a large scale, but very like

low simmer of people just constantly blowing these things off and moving on with their lives.

And then all of a sudden, it was just over.

In some states.

In some states.

See, this is why I need to move to Texas because we have a completely different view of what COVID was.

You live in Washington.

You still live in Washington, D.C.

That's insanity.

What happened up there?

Yeah.

It's crazy.

I spent all my time driving to Virginia to go to the gym, to go to restaurants, to go to the grocery store, simply because I want this sort of civil disobedience to happen.

We actually did a documentary about a restaurant bar owner in D.C.

Yeah, yeah.

He runs the big board.

He's been on your show, actually.

He finally got his license back,

but he made it safe for other restaurants.

And by the way, the mayor lifted those just days after she shut him down.

So I, again, someone needs to be brave.

And it might feel irrational to put your life and your business on the line, but somebody's got to step up.

And, you know, the culture here in Texas is quite different.

I think people are generally more inclined to resist irrational authority.

In D.C., we love it.

Like

we're swimming in a cesspool of violent authority.

We are in the cult of

wokeness there.

Matt, thank you so much.

Good to see you.

Good to see you.

You can hear the podcast we did yesterday.

He interviewed me on The Great Reset, and it was a really good, fascinating conversation.

You can hear that.

Kibby on Liberty.

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