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We're glad you're here.

Boy, what a weekend of miss, diss, and malinformation.

Let's start with President Biden.

Make no mistake, inflation is largely the fault of Putin.

I love, you know, the Republic saying it's Biden's gas pipeline.

Buy Biden said he was going to stop the Keystone pipeline, and I did.

And that's the reason prices went up.

Let's get something straight here.

The Keystone pipeline was two years away and been 2% finished.

Give me a break.

Yeah, okay.

We're

giving you a break.

Okay.

So inflation was caused by Vladimir Putin, not our spending?

So I'm sick of this stuff.

We have to talk about it because the American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more more money.

Simply not true.

It's not true.

It's not true.

Well, what is true?

Well, you could listen to the people who have been lying to you from the very beginning, or you can listen to some reason.

We're going to give you some reason, and we're going to show you what people that actually know what's going on are warning about.

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Okay, there's a couple of things that are going on that you should know about.

First of all, Russia has bombarded a Ukrainian military range near the Polish border, killing 35.

Russia has also requested military and economic assistance from China.

This is according to the U.S.

That's really good.

That's really good news.

China and Russia are beginning to form their alliance.

And in that alliance, North Korea

and Iran, and I believe eventually Saudi Arabia,

and maybe,

maybe if we're really lucky, India.

Pakistan will go that way, and you will have an Axis and allied power.

I would bet that most of Africa goes their way as well.

So now China has said, no, no, no, we, Russians calling us for help, we don't even even know what you're talking about.

We've, quote, we've never even heard of that.

Also this weekend,

Iran

launched 12 missiles,

and

those 12 missiles landed all around a U.S.

consulate.

Now, the good news is the consulate wasn't damaged.

Nobody was killed.

But they launched 12 ballistic missiles against our consulate.

And they said, well, you know, hey, this is, you know, some to do with

those Jews.

Darn those Jews.

They sent their Mossad in and they killed a couple of people of ours.

Okay, so what do we have to do with that?

Why are you bombing the streets around the consulate and not killing anyone?

I personally think this is yet another test

of the United States.

Can we do this while we're in nuclear negotiations with Iran, and will they still sit at the table?

This is another test of our president, his resolve, and what he's willing to take.

So now,

let me get to the big news this weekend.

We are edging closer and closer to a world war,

and we're already in a world war when it comes to the dollar.

This is really critical.

This is one of those tripwires for me.

I have been trying to come up with tripwires of when I say to my family, okay,

all right, everybody in the car, you know, we're going underground.

What are the tripwires that I'm looking for?

One of them is a spreading of this war.

If this war starts to spread into other countries, that's a big tripwire for me that says we are now headed towards a

World War III, and it's going to get serious.

A serious attack on our power grid is another one.

And

a serious

attack on the US dollar.

When you start to see China and Russia coming together and putting together an alternative to the petro dollar,

you have a real problem.

Now, this might take me a while to explain this, but

I want to show you where we've been, what the dollar, why everybody has the world's reserve currency as the U.S.

dollar, Bretton Woods, and then I want to tell you what happened this weekend because a major tripwire

was crossed.

So

the petro dollar

is why we have our dollar, our greenback, in the banks of almost every foreign country.

In fact, I think every foreign country.

If you want to buy oil, especially from OPEC, it must be purchased in U.S.

dollars.

Why do you think Hillary Clinton said, we came, we saw, we killed him?

Remember that?

She was laughing about the death of Gaddafi?

We were involved in that death, absolutely.

He was dragged in the streets by his own people, but we weakened him.

Why did this happen?

Why did the United States want Qaddafi out of there?

We were all saying, this is destabilizing the Middle East.

What are you doing?

We did it because he said he was going to start taking Euros for Libyan oil.

Okay.

No, you're not.

No, you're not.

We have a deal with OPEC in Saudi Arabia.

You can sell oil.

We'll provide you arms and everything else.

And we'll we'll buy your oil and we'll continue to buy your oil.

But you only sell oil in U.S.

dollars.

So that means anytime a country wants to buy oil from OPEC, they have to take their dollar, buy U.S.

dollars, buy the oil.

Okay, so you can't buy oil outside of a U.S.

dollar.

That's why everybody has the U.S.

dollar.

It's oil makes the world go around.

It's not gold, it's oil.

So if somebody starts to come off of our dollar and starts buying oil with something else other than the US dollar, we usually kill them

or we isolate them or we depose them.

We do something so that doesn't happen.

Why?

Because if these countries that hold all of these dollars, 80% of all all printed money, is overseas.

So if this, the dollar, which is held in all of these central banks and all of these banks all over the world, if they start selling those dollars and those treasuries, all of that money rushes back here to the United States.

What does that mean?

Well, if 80% of our money is being held in banks and and it starts to rush back here, it means out of control inflation.

If you think inflation is bad, we're talking hyper-inflation.

It will mean a dollar collapse.

You just, it won't be worth anything.

So we don't want to do anything that upsets the petro-dollar thing.

Yet, what happens to the petro-dollar if we stop buying

gas and oil and we tell the whole world, you you got to be green.

Hmm.

Has anybody just thought of that?

Even if you care about the planet and you think it's the most important thing and people should eat rocks and who cares if they live or die?

You should care about the petrodollar.

Is anyone pegging it to something else?

Because we got off of gold.

Now, one more thing you need to know, the history of how we got here.

Bretton Woods happened right after, it's a town in, where is it?

New Hampshire, I think?

Bretton Woods?

The whole world got together after World War II because we had all of the gold because Europe needed to get all kinds of things, armaments and tanks and everything else.

They didn't have any money.

And so we were just like, you know what?

Send us your gold.

Send us your gold.

We'll send you the tanks and the airplanes and everything else.

Just send us your gold.

So we had all of the gold for the whole world in Fort Knox.

That's why we said, we'll be the gold standard.

We'll never break the gold standard.

You just take our money.

You can buy oil with it.

It's the only currency you can buy oil with.

And we're on the gold standard.

1972 comes along.

And that's when Bretton Woods 2 happens.

And that's when the United States says, by the way, you know what?

We want war and the great society.

So we're coming off of the dollar standard or the gold standard, but we'll never, ever really abuse it.

And here's the good news.

We're going to become consumers.

Right now, we've made refrigerators and televisions and cars and everything else that the world is buying.

But now, because we want the war and we want a great society, We're going to come off that and we're going to now stop making those things, ship our jobs overseas, and we'll buy your products so we'll become a consumer nation and you'll be able to get rich just hang on to our dollar

that's Bretton Woods two

we are now approaching Bretton Woods three

and the world will change as much as it did in World War II

this is something that unless you lived through World War II, you have not seen anything like what is coming.

Here's what happened over the weekend.

Well, let me take one minute and then I'll come back and tell you what happened over the weekend.

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Zolden

Pazar, he is, I don't know how to say his name is Pozar or Pazar.

He is one of Wall Street's most respected people.

He's at Credit Suisse in Switzerland and

has worked for Wall Street banks for a very, very long time.

He is a guy, when he speaks, people start to listen.

Well, I've been watching him lately and really listening to what he's saying because he's the only one that's really kind of warning of things, I think, with real credibility.

This is what happened this weekend.

China's central bank is uniquely placed to backstop a global commodities crisis sparked by sanctions imposed in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, potentially paving the way for a much stronger

won.

In a note published on Monday, Zoltan Pazar, a global head of the bank's short-term interest rate strategy, said the unfolding crisis in Ukraine could lead to a perfect storm in which commodities could weaken the Euro-dollar system, contribute to inflation in Western economies, and threaten financial stability.

Now, listen to this.

This crisis that we're facing now, quoting, is unlike anything we have seen since President Nixon took the U.S.

dollar off of gold in 1971, and it was the end of the era of commodity-based money.

When the crisis and war is over, the U.S.

dollar will be much weaker and the Chinese dollar much stronger because it will be based on a basket of commodities.

Russia's invasion, the biggest attack on European states since World War II, has created 1.7 million refugees, fear of a wider conflict in the West, and led to a raft of sanctions on Moscow.

The conflict has driven surges in global commodity prices, pushing nickel prices to a record high and oil to a 14-year peak.

Russia has warned a ban on Russian oil imports could jolt the cost of a barrel to $300.

Listen to this.

Russian commodities today are like subprime collateralized debt obligations.

Anybody who

had any kind of money at all in 2008, when I say CDOs, your blood runs cold.

Because that's what the real problem was, where every bank needed to be bailed out.

So Russian commodities today are like subprime collateralized debt obligations were in 2008.

Conversely, non-Russian commodities are like U.S.

Treasury securities were back in 2008, one collapsing in price and the other surging in price with margin calls on both sides regardless which side you are on.

Western central banks, held back by sanctions imposed by their own governments, will not be able to provide support such as emergency liquidity needed to close the market gaps.

So here's what's happening.

In a nutshell, a replay of 2008.

So here is, here's the problem.

China started selling our treasuries.

Okay, those are our loans.

Those are held in dollars, trillions of dollars.

They started selling our treasuries to fund vessel leasing and the purchase of cheap Russian commodities.

They're trying to

control inflation in China, which is also leading to commodity sources.

So what they're doing is they're buying gold, they're buying oil, they're buying all these commodities, wheat, anything they can buy.

They're buying real stuff.

And they're buying it from Russia, which will prop Russia up, but they're also now introducing their digital dollar that is going to compete against our petro dollar, and they will have something that is backed by something real,

which we don't have.

This is what is happening, and you would think, well,

what's going to cause people to switch over to the dollar?

Well,

this is what's going to

get everybody to switch over to the dollar.

The freezing

of Russia's currency reserves.

Here's the big question that big people are asking.

Wait a minute.

Is money really money?

Is cash really cash?

If I put my money in a central bank or I put my money in these big banks, it's supposed to be safe.

But if any country can just say, oh, you know what?

You don't have a savings account anymore.

Oh, you know what?

You can't do banking services anymore.

They're asking themselves, is money even worth money?

Now, this should make cryptocurrency go through the roof because it's decentralized.

No one is able to stop it.

So that should make everything go up through the roof.

But China has banned cryptocurrency because they want their own cryptocurrency.

And the United States is trying to ban cryptocurrency because they want their own cryptocurrency.

You're going to see

China, Russia, India, Pakistan,

maybe Saudi Arabia and other countries start to sell their dollars, sell their treasuries, sell their reserves, start buying commodities through China and Russia and using the digital dollar from China.

That will mean higher inflation here and a dollar that we...

Are we backing it on anything?

Could we back it up on our oil reserves?

Anything real?

And if so, This should tell you something about the great reset.

Oh, they'd never take our bank account.

Really?

Because that's what countries are saying now about the Western sanctions.

Wait a minute.

Can they just take my money too?

Can they just shut me down?

If countries are asking it, you should ask it.

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Yeah,

yeah.

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

There's a couple of things.

First of all, let's welcome Mr.

Pat Gray.

Thank you.

Great to be here.

Yeah, yeah.

Is it?

It is.

It is.

It is.

You wouldn't want to be anyplace else.

Nowhere else.

Not at all.

If I could choose one place to to be at this moment, it would be right here.

Right here.

Yeah.

Not at Disney.

No.

Not Paris, some exotic vacation.

Nope.

Not even at home in bed.

Uh-uh.

No.

Right here.

No.

That is great.

That's the kind of dedication you get from Pat Gray, from Pat Gray Unleashed.

He's got a passion for being here.

Pat, how are you?

I'm good.

Good.

What was on your mind today?

What is it that you've seen?

That there's no trouble in the world.

There is no trouble in the world.

I'm very excited about the fact that everything's been fixed, except for the things Putin keeps screwing up.

Yeah, he kisses me off.

Everything would be perfect if it weren't for him.

We'd have a great economy.

Gas prices would be incredibly low.

You could buy a house for $1.98.

Putin.

God

dang it.

I know.

I hate him for that.

Could we play Americans Don't Understand What We're Doing, Clip, please.

Never forget what we've accomplished together

so far.

And by the way, the American people just trying to stay above water don't understand this.

Yeah, they don't.

You tell them what the American Recovery Act was, they look at you like, what are you talking about?

Right.

They're so stupid.

They are so stupid.

They're so stupid.

They're so stupid.

And

they don't understand that Putin has caused inflation.

Can I tell you something?

It is simply not true about government spending.

Listen to this.

When we're having this discussion, it's important to dispel some of those who say, well, it's the government spending no it isn't her too the government spending is doing the exact reverse reducing the national debt it is not inflationary government spending is reducing the national yes debt okay look at look at how bazille look at are you not

you're married yes okay my wife is married to me you're married to lisa lisa and i have a lot of things in common for instance honey we're saving money by spending this money.

I've heard that say,

we're saving money by spending this money right now.

And who doesn't know the basic principle?

When you're in debt, if you go out and put more things on the credit card, you're actually not adding to debt.

You're making things better.

Don't think that through.

I mean, that's what she's saying.

That is what she's saying.

We're not adding to debt.

How are you not adding to debt?

Well, what we did with the money we spent was buy counterfeit money machines, and now we're counterfeiting money and paying off debt.

All right.

There you go.

Good.

Well, they're already kind of doing it.

It's called fiat currency, but that's a different story.

Here's the president.

He gets a little testy.

Cut through, please.

So I'm sick of this stuff.

We have to talk about it because the American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more money.

Simply not true.

Simply not true.

How?

Now, the Treasury Secretary of the Obama administration, Larry Summers, said it was true.

One of their lead economists, Furman, also said that it was true.

But

obviously, every conservative economist says this as well.

But it's just simply not true.

It's simple.

Just because he says it.

He's sick of it, too.

Have you noticed that he seems a little angry a lot of the time?

Yeah.

Or a lot angry a lot of the time.

Yeah, or a lot angry

just

off the cuff, just kind of like, hey,

I like chocolate ice cream.

It's not true that I don't like vanilla ice cream.

Yeah.

I mean,

he goes from zero to 60 in a heartbeat.

There's a little bit of the old man yells at cloud thing going on.

You know?

It's like, there's something, it's not normal.

He seems to burst into real visceral anger out of nowhere.

It is normal.

It is normal.

For a super old guy who's losing cognitive functions.

Yes, that is super normal.

We've all seen that in our family.

Yeah, I guess that's true.

In that situation, it's true.

But it's scary.

But it's not normal for a president.

No.

And like you think about how he's losing it in front of crowds and at the press who has done nothing but coddle him through this presidency.

He's mad at them.

Imagine what he's like behind closed doors.

I've heard that he is

angry at the drop of a hat.

Oh, what?

I bet he is.

I bet he is.

Well, his presidency is going down the drain.

I don't know how you salvage it at this point.

And he is pissed pissed off that people are noticing.

And yet they are talking this weekend that he is seriously thinking he's going to run

for re-election.

Insane.

And no, no, no, that's not insane.

Here's what's insane.

The head-to-head polls between him and Trump, it's a dead heat.

Are you

what?

I mean, look,

my wife says this to me all the time, speaking of my wife, and and she's always like, how can, like, I don't understand how could anyone even think this would be close?

And how is it possible?

And it's like, well, we all sat here and complained for four years about the media turning Donald Trump into Satan.

Right.

Well, that has an effect.

I mean, Donald Trump is going to, if he runs, when it seems like he will, he's going to, he's got the nomination locked up pretty much on his side in the primary, but he's going to face this same treatment and multiple years of him being turned into Satan by the media.

It's not going to be a cakewalk for Donald Trump if he runs.

I mean, they have, we all sat there day by day.

We're going to lose this.

Catalog

how bad the media was against him and complained about it and said it was unfair, and it was, but it was real and it occurred.

Yeah.

And they're going to go back and reverse themselves completely to anything negative that Joe Biden has done.

All the whatever

they're already trying to do it in real time.

Yeah.

It's going to be a lot.

It's going to, I mean, and it's, their groundwork is already done.

It's going to be a challenge.

I mean, President Trump, if he runs, it's going to, it's not going to be a cakewalk.

It's going to be hard.

And he's going to have that same awful treatment from the media.

He's going to have to overcome.

And we've seen how difficult that is, even for Donald Trump, who's very good at dealing with the media.

So I would, you know, I

know this is never going to happen, but I would love,

love to see President Trump

endorse DeSantis and then take the role from Nancy Pelosi.

No Speaker of the House thing.

Oh my God.

Can you imagine?

He would tear it apart.

The Speaker of the House.

Because he doesn't even have to be in Congress to be Speaker of the House.

No,

all he has to do is the ruling party needs to say, we would like him Speaker of the House.

And I mean, they could pick up the public.

I think they'd do that too.

Don't you think they'd do that?

If he wanted it.

If he wanted it.

I don't know that he'd want it.

Can you imagine?

I mean, because then he is actually responsible for all of the investigation.

Oh, my God.

He would be responsible for, yeah, we're going to do a little investigation on Hunter Biden.

We're going to look into that one.

Oh, my God.

We're going to do a little investigation

into

the Democrats that were here

and doing my impeachment.

We're just

going to look into that.

He could approve.

He wouldn't be on

the committees.

He might be.

But he would be the one who would say, we're doing it.

Can you imagine?

Because

that may be a more important role, because if you want to clean out the hornet's nest, you have to do it through Congress.

You have to do it.

The president could sign all kinds of executive orders and do

this and that, but that doesn't last.

And if the president wants to fire clean house at the State Department, all of you, out.

He can't do that without Congress.

If he is the Speaker of the House

and Ron DeSantis is the president, I think you have a one-two punch.

I mean, this is a bit of a fantasy league we're playing here, but it would be interesting.

I don't think Trump would have as much interest in that role if he wants presidents to go back and be in Congress.

If it's good enough for, you know, John Quincy Adams,

if John Quincy Adams was willing to do it, and John Quincy Adams, in the end, is the reason why we got rid of slavery.

He tried and tried and tried and tried and tried.

And then he saw this upcomer, you know, that just came to Congress and he was like, you get it.

And he

tutored that young congressman on how to stop slavery.

And that young congressman became the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln.

I don't know.

I think it might be good.

It's a, you know, it's not a joke to be in Congress.

It is now

because Congress isn't doing anything.

We send all these representatives, and it's really only Schumer and McConnell and Pelosi

and maybe McCarthy that are getting together in the rooms and like, yeah, we're going to do this.

And then just send it to everybody to rubber stamp.

That's the problem.

It would be fascinating to see.

Yeah, by the way, have you seen all of the things that are in the spending bill that we didn't know about?

Because nobody read the bill.

All stuff that's cutting inflation, I'll tell you that.

Yeah, people just don't understand it.

Why don't you get it?

It's cutting inflation.

And there wouldn't be any if it weren't for Putin.

Yes.

Damn Putin.

Don't like that guy.

I hate him.

Lord of Putin.

Are you really angry?

I'm really angry at Putin.

Darn.

Dang.

God damn it.

So

you really think that it's not printing of money?

Oh, it's Putin.

But it was starting before.

That's an absolute lie.

I'm sick of it.

See, starting before the occasion, there was a...

Putin!

What don't you understand about Putin?

When I scream his name, does that not tell you it's Putin?

Fair point.

I think I get it now.

Yeah.

I think the American people.

Thank you very much, Pat.

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And now,

Veep Thoughts by Kamala Harris.

We all watched

the television coverage of just yesterday.

That's on top of everything else that we know and don't know yet based on what we've just been able to see.

And because we've seen it or not, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

But just limited to what we have seen.

This has been Veep Thoughts.

Wow.

By Kamala Harris.

Powerful.

Powerful.

Powerful.

You know, she was speaking at the DNC winter convention or meeting this last weekend.

And I don't know if you saw her speech, but it was electrifying.

She's really good.

I mean, she's really good at this.

Yeah.

And she was laying out the strategy.

uh for the dnc for the next election and uh i think i mean I just want you to listen to the crowd.

Listen to what she has to say because that's one thing.

But listen to the crowd's reaction.

They

love it.

Here she is.

It's a DNC convention.

It's just to show people that in many ways they got what they ordered.

Right?

They said this is what they wanted.

Similar reaction.

They stood in line.

They took time from work.

It was difficult.

And a lot of what they demanded, they got.

And so let's get out there as we do and remind them of that.

Yeah.

That is, what kind of strategy is that?

Your job is to make them forget it.

Your job is to come out and say, we swear the last two years hasn't happened.

That's your only path to success.

I will tell you,

that's the most honest thing I've heard a Democrat say in a long time.

Yeah, and this is the second time she said it.

You got what you voted for.

Who is telling her this is a good idea?

Obviously not the crowd.

Obviously, not the crowd.

By the way, making fun of that laugh is racist.

It is?

Do I need to play cut 11 for racists too?

She went on to say that the U.S.

is committed to helping refugees, but some on the right say that this was humiliating.

Did you have a problem with any of the way she handled this, ladies?

Yeah.

People are talking about it.

I personally think if she was a guy, they would never say it, because they also made fun of Hillary's laugh.

But I don't see them making fun of Pence's laugh or any of the other guys.

But it is a laugh.

They constantly question the qualifications of black women, and that's why people are saying that she's unprepared.

Oh, I disagree.

I think she's unprepared.

You can disagree, but that's the truth of it.

And so this is based in racism.

This is based in misogyny.

And we're talking about a woman that has extensive experience abroad, extensive experience as an attorney,

extensive experience as the chief legal officer of

one of our largest states in the country.

And I think this is just much ado about nothing.

You know what?

Amen to that.

What?

No, amen to that.

She's very, very smart.

Do we really need to go down this

road?

I mean, did you hear what she just said?

What extensive experience does she have

overseas?

She's shown up.

She couldn't even get to the border of this country.

Right.

And she had never, when they pointed that out, she said, I've never been to Europe either.

Yeah.

She's known for sleeping with the mayor of Los Angeles and getting promoted.

Oh, my.

And she became, I mean, it's not to say that she doesn't have a

career, I guess, in California before this, but she wound up

vice president of the United States based on very little.

Google, I would just like to put it in your records that I had nothing to do with that.

I was defending her.

And Department of Homeland Security, it's Stu.

He writes all of the words that I'm saying, except for this part right now.

Right, right.

We never made fun of Mike Pence's laugh.

The man has never laughed in his life.

Ever.

He's literally never cracked a smile in his entire life ever.

And we make fun of him for that.

And he's a white male.

This is the Glenn Back program.

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Stu?

Yes, we've got a new dog coming into the family, which I thought.

I thought she was going to get another.

I did not predict we were not going to get it.

But she said, right?

I mean,

both of our wives

are saying they're not going to get another dog, and yet you got one, and I'm about to get one.

Yes, you're totally.

In fact, our wives were talking about this this very weekend.

No, I know.

I saw pictures of your dog.

Isn't it cute?

Isn't it cute?

Isn't it cute?

And I'm like, just buy another dog.

Get it over with it.

Yes.

And that's what happened basically this weekend.

So we're supposed to get it.

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Hello, America.

The Great Reset is a farcical conspiracy theory.

No, it's not a theory, it's a fact.

And

it's not farcical.

It's quite honestly a little terrifying.

Not because it's the end of the world, but because it is the end of the free market system.

Now, I addressed the people up in Idaho on Friday, and I'd like to give you an update on this and ESG in 60 seconds.

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So on Friday, I told you and gave you an update on what was happening in Idaho.

Idaho,

the Capital and Business Committee on Friday heard your voice, but it's still not clear where they stand.

We got a lot of calls from people going, no, no, no, I'm for the bill.

I'm for the bill.

But the way to show that you're for the bill is to move this bill forward and vote on it.

And if you don't want to vote on it, that's fine.

It's fine.

I'm not an enemy of anybody.

I just, I believe what I believe.

I know the facts.

I've spent two years researching it.

A lot of these people have just called their friends in banking or have, you know, heard from lobbyists and they're like, oh, well, I trust the lobbyist.

Oh, do you?

Do you?

Okay, well,

I don't.

I don't.

Now, if the Speaker of the House wants to move forward, you know, he will.

If he's for it, he'll make sure the bill is passed this session.

I would ask that you would call the Speaker of the House and the Treasurer.

The Treasurer is Julie Ellsworth.

She's the Idaho State Treasurer, and she called, and she said, I'm for the bill.

Well, actually,

Julie, as I understand it, you're not for the bill.

What you're for is the stopping of it, but you want to be the one that prosecutes anybody that

you know, goes against the freedom of the individual person.

And that's great, except it gives you ultimate power.

And we've seen far too many states that won't address, let's say, we're a sanctuary city, and so we're not prosecuting any, even though they're breaking the law, we're just not going to prosecute.

No, that's not good enough for Americans anymore.

We want the right.

We want the right.

If somebody is

using something other than a credit score to find out if I'm credit worthy or not.

If they're using something that says, oh, you were one of the parents that you were objecting to critical race theory.

Yeah, you're a reputational risk to the bank.

We can't really give you a loan.

I should have the right to sue them.

And that's what these bills have in them.

The people have a right to sue because we don't trust that the government officials in all states, and Julie, you might be fine.

you might be doing it, but who replaces you?

So call the state treasurer and the speaker of the House.

This is if you're in Idaho.

Idaho has before it the best legislation out there.

And there are many

that want to pass it, but they're just a few votes shy, and they need to know that the people of Idaho want to stop ESG in their banking system and in their state.

Scott Bedke, he is the Speaker of the House in District 27.

Julie Ellsworth is the Idaho State Treasurer.

And the reason why I'm calling them out is because,

A, this is a home state of mine.

I have a farm in Idaho.

I hope to someday live in Idaho and retire in Idaho.

But how am I going to do it?

How am I going to even keep my farm?

How could I possibly raise cattle to be sold if

ESG is the standard in Idaho?

How is anybody who might disagree with the E, the S, or the G,

the governance, the social justice, or the environmental things, that the bank has decided,

how is somebody who grows potatoes going to be able to sell those to McDonald's?

Answer, they can't.

They can't.

So give the people of Idaho the right to conduct their lives and their business as they see it.

Now, the lobbyist came in right away to Idaho and they issued something that said, some in Idaho legislators as opposed to consider legislation to deal with ESG, environment, social, and governance.

ESG is only a risk management system, but it's being labeled as the latest threat to individual rights.

It is.

Hear me now.

I thought it was crazy two years ago.

I've done two years of research and spent thousands, in fact, into the six figures on research to make sure this is buttoned up.

I have a book out.

It is called The Great Reset.

Get it at the library.

I'm not trying to make money off of it.

I mean, I would like to make money off it, but get it at the library if you don't want to spend money.

Get it at the library and look at the 50-page of fine print footnotes.

It's all their own words.

Anyway, while as

preposterous as this sounds, folks folks like Glenn Beck and his partners with wallbuilders.com have given legislators a farcical conspiracy theory from which legislation will be crafted.

While it's easy to dismiss due to its lack of basis in reality,

have you gone to the World Economic Forum.org?

Have you gone to treasury.us?

Have you gone to Whitehouse.gov?

Have you gone to Merrill Lynch?

Have you gone to Bank of America?

What do you mean, lack of basis?

It's all out in the open.

But they continue, the tragic reality of the new world is one where talking heads drive policy to stir the masses by creating non-existent problems and then solving the problem with massive overreaches into the private sector.

How dare you?

How dare you?

The people, the banks, the insurance companies, are saying that people like me create these problems only then to come up with a solution?

No,

no, you know, one thing I've learned is people, at least the elites of the world, tend to tell us exactly what they're doing by what they blame on others.

He's a racist.

He's a racist.

This whole thing is racist.

You don't want ESG taught.

That's racist.

No, you're a racist.

You're a racist.

Every time

they tell you that the other side is doing something,

they're usually the ones doing it.

Just watch, just notice.

So the lobbyist for the banks and the financial institutions

called up and they've been,

your House and your Senate have been hearing the voices of those paid lobbyists, but they haven't heard your voice until Friday in Idaho.

Let me just clear this up.

Intrusion and excess government regulations, really?

This bill imposes regulations only on businesses that cross the line and start taking freedom from people.

So in other words, it's saying,

we don't need a law against murder.

You're calling everyone a murderer?

No.

Only those who murder people.

That's not regulation on everybody else, unless they plan on murdering people.

Then and only then does the law kick in.

I don't have any restriction of my freedom unless I'm murdering people.

If a business upholds constitutional freedoms, then there is no consequence.

It is only businesses that are colluding with other businesses to stop you from investing in oil or

cutting down timber,

whatever it is, farming.

Any of these sound interesting to you,

Idahoans, any of it?

If they start saying, no, we can't give this farm a loan because they raise cattle, then the law kicks in.

No intrusion, no intrusion of the free market at all.

Just no

not giving me a loan because I don't agree with your social justice policies.

By the way, if you don't think this is happening, then you don't understand what's happening in Russia.

McDonald's wasn't going to leave and close their stores in Russia until they felt, quote, a reputational risk, end quote.

That is ESG language.

That's right from the books.

And if they do this to a guy with a country full of nukes, you don't think they're going to do this against a farmer who disagrees with their

land policies?

Well, Friday in Idaho, a lot of people called and they were hearing from the people.

And we started hearing and they said, you know, hey, we're all for the bill.

Okay, maybe you are.

I don't know.

I don't, you know, George Washington said deeds, not words.

That's it.

Deeds, not words.

This bill isn't heard.

It hasn't even been heard in committee.

While the conservative legislators on the business committee claim they're for the bill, the committee has delayed the hearing of the bill and they're out voting on it to get it out of committee so it can have a hearing on the floor.

So if the bill doesn't get heard in committee and out on the floor really soon, it will die and then they'll pick it up next season.

This is what the lobbyists want, delay.

If the legislators want the heat turned off then all you have to do is hold the business committee meeting and vote to advance the bill out of committee and get it onto the floor oh i'm not going to have a radio host tell me what to do did the radio host call you or was it the listeners in idaho who happened to agree with the radio host's view but didn't know about the bill because the media has been silent about it.

Are they the ones who called you or was it the radio host?

The radio hosts shine the light on what was happening.

The people who didn't like

what they heard, when they found out what was occurring, they called.

They called.

You think the switchboard got flooded with calls because a radio host was telling mindlessly numb robots what to do?

Or because thinking people in Idaho

actually care and are passionate, have done their homework.

So you have a choice.

The people who vote for you, the people who think that you are on their side, you either look at them just like the elites in Washington do as a mere nuisance,

or you have respect for what they say and

you will consider it and tell them the truth.

Or you will consider it and then let it go to the floor.

Because everyone needs to know, if you're not for the bill, that's fine.

It's just robots that are against you, right?

It's just robots

let it go to the floor

now multiple officials said that what i'm doing is i'm going to cause people to have primary opponents people are signing up to run against me because what i say about this bill it's not what i say about this bill do you know what people said two years ago on my audience that this didn't make any sense.

I said the same thing.

They've listened to me now for two years.

They've read the book.

They know what they believe.

So

are you opposed to being held accountable?

Do you oppose sunlight?

Do you prefer the people not know what your views are on bills that promote and protect their freedom?

Do you not support the general free market principle that competition makes things better and healthier and stronger?

And having a primary challenger might improve the legislative backbone to defend the people's freedom?

I think it does.

These politicians will publicly state that they're for H-737, but if they really are, then give it a vote and demonstrate your report.

You have a chance to do that tomorrow.

If you're in Idaho, I would again make a phone call.

I would call your legislator and tell them this has to be voted on and heard in open session this season.

If you're against it, make your case.

Let the people hear and let the people be swayed by your argument against it.

You hold the power in Idaho and in every state.

You are the one that gave them the power.

They're supposed to represent you.

Don't let them fool you with excuses.

If they tell you, I support it, good.

Prove it by voting on it.

The bill is H737.

It is currently in the business committee.

It needs to scheduled, be a scheduled vote by the committee.

Call every one of the members on that committee.

Sage Dixon, Rod Furness, Brent Crane, Joe Palmer, Vito Barbarari,

Randy Armstrong, Lance, I think it's Klow, Kevin Andrus, Tammy Nichols, Ben Adams, Matthew Bundy, Greg Firch, Cody Galloway, Brandon Mitchell, Charlie Shepard, Steve Birch, and Brooke Green.

Most of them are for it.

There are a few that are not, and it's not the Democrats, it's the Republicans, Brent Crane,

Joel Palmer.

So call,

and also call your Speaker of the House.

He'll move it forward, and call the Treasurer, Julie Ellsworth.

No, Julie, you are for it in concept, but you want the power to apply the law.

The people should have that power.

Just explain that.

If the people agree with you, then the people will be fine with it.

I don't agree with you, but that doesn't mean the people of Idaho don't.

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So the reaction from people in Idaho was immense.

Immense.

Immense.

So what does this do for other states?

Do other states look at this and realize, hey, maybe we shouldn't just blow people off when we have these concerns.

If the people are listened to in Idaho.

If the people are listened to in Idaho.

See,

these banking

lobbyists have enormous clout.

And the people who aren't really paying attention, look, and I don't blame legislature.

They have a lot on their plate to do.

This sounds crazy, but not anymore because you can see it everywhere.

You can go to the government websites and see what they're doing.

But it sounds crazy.

And if you don't do your due diligence, you'll call somebody in a bank.

You know, I got a friend at Bank of America.

He's a big wig.

He'll tell me the truth.

Right.

Yeah, what are they going to tell you?

What are they going to tell you?

Oh, no, it would never be used like that.

But that is what's happening with it right now in Russia.

That's what the emergency order did in Canada.

And if they do this to a country that's full of nukes, you don't think they'll do it to you and your business?

And it's the banks and insurance companies.

Aren't there voices inside the banking industry that look at this as a real problem and a real threat to the and don't want this to happen?

There are people that are actually coming to legislators all over the country in states, and they're saying the small banks, the local banks, the state banks, they're all coming to these guys and going, please pass this.

Please pass this, please.

ESG is really bad.

But if we say anything, we're going to be eaten ourselves.

We'll be the first to be driven out of business.

Please pass this.

Your insurance agent, he probably doesn't know anything about this.

But

the people at the top of the insurance business, they do.

And this is going to trickle down to the lowest common denominator.

And last week,

the experts in our government were saying this is the way to control inflation, is to grab control of the money, grab control of how it can be spent, and the way you do that is through ESG.

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Huddled in a bomb shelter in Kyiv, a seven-year-old girl named Emilia Anasovich

sang a song in Ukrainian.

She sang frozen.

It went viral as people commented on her sweetness, the innocence, and the hope for this little girl.

The video tugged on everybody's heartstrings.

In the beginning of the video, you can hear the whole room go quiet as the crowd realizes that she's singing.

Here it is.

I am happy to report

after six days in an air raid shelter, Amelia, her brother, and her grandmother,

walked for about two days to the border and are now safe.

Her mother, along with her father, decided to stay behind to provide food for Ukrainian forces.

But

dad said, I always knew Amelia was very talented and a sweet angel.

Now the whole world knows the same.

Currently

in the hotspot is the founder and CEO of Mighty Oaks Foundation and the co-founder of Save Our Allies, Chad Robicho.

Hello, Chad.

How are you?

Glenn, how are you?

The last time we talked, I was in Afghanistan.

I know, I know.

Now you're in Ukraine.

Tell us the situation on the ground and what's happening.

Well, you know,

it's pretty dynamic and very different in different parts of the country.

As you're aware, you know, over in Kiev and the cities more to the east, you have the direct

kinetic combat with Ukrainian troops, Russian troops,

as well as

militia Ukrainians fighting for their homes and their towns.

And then over to the west, you have

major cities intact that are at threat.

And we see yesterday, Nova Lviva getting rocketed.

And so the whole country is in chaos.

Everybody's scared.

People are evacuating, not just out of the country, but people are evacuating from one dangerous city to a safer place.

And a lot of people that are helping, like Sabre Allies and other organizations that are helping, aren't just evacuating people from the country, but actually moving people from a dangerous place to a safer place.

moving medical aid forward, moving supplies forward, and moving people out.

So, Chad, you've been in special operations for a very long time,

now retired from military service.

But

what is Putin thinking?

I mean, I can't make heads or tails of this.

Yeah, you know, we were, we were just, we were just in the middle of all the operations we're doing.

We kind of paused for a second a little while ago.

I just, what is he doing?

Why is he

moving forward?

I mean, he's obviously he's he had everything the way he would want it.

If you look at economically and globally,

he was winning.

America was buying oil from him, even though we all disagree with it.

America was buying oil from him.

The rest of the world was buying oil from him.

He was just in a really good geoeconomic position.

And

then he does this.

And for what?

To gain Ukrainian oil that he won't be able to sell now.

It just doesn't really make sense to someone who the world has thought was a very strategic thinker and made decisions,

all his decisions.

I mean, everyone you talk to on both sides of the aisle and politically and people around the world said, you know, Putin's not a good guy, but he always makes calculated strategic decisions, and we're just not seeing that right now.

So we're seeing this weekend, the U.S.

said that he asked China for military help or at least supplies.

I'm hearing that he's going to get more vicious.

Do you have any sense that being there, what's coming?

Is this ending?

Is this getting worse?

What's your feel?

It's going to,

my feel is,

and look, it's not just from my experience.

I'm here on the ground with people, the smartest minds in the special operations community.

I'm here, I'm meeting with the highest level of from all different governments of the world, intelligence agencies and things like that.

Everyone is in

a consensus agreement that

it's going to get worse.

It's not going to get better.

If you watch what he's doing right now,

you know, towns like Kiev,

Kviv, he's surrounding these towns, holding, destroying infrastructure, roads, bridges, rails, any egress routes out inside these cities while the Russians are holding the outer perimeter.

They have the ability to get resupplied, but those inside can't.

So

medicine, like

something as simple as insulin,

that's as deadly as a nuclear weapon to someone with

diabetes, right?

A lot of children's hospitals have no medicine, no medical aid, no supplies.

Water,

potable water is gone now.

They're starving them out.

And not only starving them out at night, it's going to get 15 degrees.

So you get people freezing to death, particularly the people trying to evacuate, the women and children trying to evacuate.

All right.

So what is it you guys are doing on the ground and how can we help?

So one of the things that we're doing,

you know, a lot of great NGOs here, evacuating people, trying to move supplies, food in,

medicine in.

What we're doing specifically is we know that the cellular network is going to fail.

And

our experience and not only special operations, but some of our teammates are some of the world's best precision recovery, precision rescue experts.

And we know that the most crucial thing is to have communications.

So we're building communications infrastructure.

to make sure that everyone in all these cities around Ukraine have the ability to communicate with us.

So when a cellular network goes down, we can still rescue them, we can still move supplies to them, and we can still communicate with them.

So that's our priority mission right now is doing that and then tying that communications network and infrastructure to the ability to be able to rescue, move medicine forward, move medical aid forward, and then provide some ambulatory services to be able to move people from places like Kviv to a safer place or to a medical station.

So that's the kind of thing that me and my team are doing.

And we're doing that through Save Our Allies.

And we need all the support we can.

I know thank you, Glenn, because you may not even be aware.

I think you are, but you guys just made a donation to save our allies.

So I thank you for that because we can't do it without people like you.

Well, I love that so much, and Afghanistan.

I have to tell you, Chad, we're big fans of

yours and Save Our Allies.

We know what you do and how important it is.

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Utter lunacy.

Utter lunacy.

Let me give you another example of utter lunacy.

I just tweeted this out from at Stu Does America.

Clay Travis posted the video of this.

But

Kyrie Irving, basketball player, just to walk you through this in case you don't know it.

He's the COVID guy, right?

Yeah.

He was, well, he refused to get vaccinated.

Right.

Okay, that's right.

Something like 90-some odd percent of NBA players are vaccinated.

He was one of the big stars that held held out on this.

And he decided he wasn't going to play, and he plays for Brooklyn.

So, you know, highest peak of COVID restrictions in New York City, of course.

So he is not allowed to play in New York City

while unvaccinated.

This is the beginning of the year.

Okay, yeah.

So that comes out, and at first the team says, okay, well, then you can't be on this team.

They hold him out.

Eventually,

possibly related to some injury situations they had on the team, they decided to say, hey, you know what?

You can play on the road because he was always eligible to play on the road in other states and other cities.

This was just a New York state restriction, a New York City restriction that would not allow him to play indoors unvaccinated.

So he started playing for the road games.

Now, however, a bunch of the restrictions have been lifted in New York City.

So we are now at a state of affairs where it is allowed for him to attend the game as a fan and sit in the crowd unvaccinated with no mask around 30,000 screaming fans.

However,

he can't actually play in the game.

That's insanity.

Where he'd be one of 10 people on a giant NBA court.

This is when you know a country is crumbling apart.

When it makes no sense, when the laws make no sense.

No sense.

There's no, look, there has never been science that would dictate that a player at, you know, 28 years years old in the prime of his physical condition was ever really going to be affected by this anyway certainly such a minor risk you can't possibly contemplate it around other players in the same circumstances but

okay all the craziness that has happened you could maybe make an argument i i don't even know what the argument would be but maybe you make the argument that it was this a sensible thing at one point i wouldn't make that argument but maybe some would this is completely insane there's video of him walking around in the crowd He's sitting in the same stadium as his team, and he can't walk out on the court.

He's instead surrounded in closer quarters with thousands of fans rather than being on the court around

in-shape athletes that are not affected by this at all.

It's complete lunacy.

It's impossible to overstate it.

Can I ask another sports question that I don't understand?

Tom Brady says there's unfinished business to do.

I don't what, I mean, apparently he did retire, right?

He did retire.

He said he announced it.

He announced it.

Someone bought his last football for $500,000.

Oh, I demand my money back.

I would demand my money back.

How could you, though?

It's just a private.

I don't know.

Maybe he could get it.

They could get it back.

But yeah, he's coming back.

Apparently, being married to Giselle, not all it's cracked up to be.

A little bit too much.

So in other words, maybe she's like, you know what, I can't have him under my feet all the time.

Or he's like, ah, I don't.

There's all sorts of things.

You know, a limited amount of time is great.

Yeah.

It's amazing, though.

I mean, what do you mean, unfinished business?

What more can you have?

You already have all of the good things of life 10 times over.

Can you stop taking all the good experiences from all other men in the United States?

Is he a free agent?

He's going to go back to Tampa.

He's already saying that.

Back to Tampa Bay.

So they're going to be

title contenders again with him coming back at, what, 45, 44 now.

It's crazy.

It really is amazing.

Crazy.

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He is one of my favorite historians.

He is one of my favorite thriller writers.

He's had 12 previous best-selling thrillers, number one best-selling thrillers.

And he is also one of the most interesting people I know.

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How are you, sir?

I'm good.

It's so good to be back in person.

Yeah.

So

you're one of my favorite people.

Let's start with a book, and then I have a surprise for you.

Oh, I'm ready for a surprise.

Okay, so here's the book.

I always start, you know, with my great fears.

I think that's what you, when you write a thriller, you got to start with your fears.

Right.

And so the opening scene has a character handing his car keys over to a valet at a fancy restaurant.

Valet takes the car.

Rather than park in the car, he hits the little GPS button on the steering wheel, says the magic words, go home.

Now the car plots a route to the man's house.

The valet's going to have the car keys.

He's got the man's house keys.

He's going to break in.

This is a robbery.

But as he steps into the man's house.

Give that idea.

No, no, I'm telling you, but no, this is the key part.

As he steps into the man's house, the valet sees another man waiting with a gun.

This is not a robbery at all.

This is a trap.

And when his body goes to our hero Zig, Zig finds something hidden on it that leads to one of the government's most closely guarded secrets.

Now, I just ruined chapter one of the lightning rod.

Oh, you've been in the book.

That's chapter one.

But chapter one is, you know,

and there's only two chapters in the book right now.

No, they have

chapter two.

The funny thing was, I was at an event yesterday in Florida.

My nephew raised his hand.

My nephew's like eight years old, and he said, Uncle Brad, what's chapter two?

And I was like, oh, I got my nephew now.

So that was good.

But the lightning rod opens with that, and then obviously the action takes off from there.

So what is the closely guarded secret?

So let's talk about that.

That's the key part.

You know, listen, I love the plot.

I love the murder mystery.

I love that you have great characters that everyone loves and we get to bring back.

But the fun of this is always the research.

I've taken readers, as you know, I've been on your show talking about the secret tunnels below the White House.

We've done the hidden labyrinth below the Capitol.

This was the one I got for this one.

I spoke to the government, there's a couple of them actually.

And the U.S.

government has, I did not know this, almost a dozen secret warehouses hidden all across the country.

And they're there to deal with bioterror attacks, whether it's anthrax, whether it's smallpox or anything else.

And if there's an attack in Texas, in New York, in California, Idaho, anywhere in between, they will have within hours what they call a push package of antidotes right to your doorstep.

And I'm like, you're telling me the government has secret warehouses all across the country.

No one knows what's inside them.

No one knows what they have inside.

No one can go in them.

You better believe I want to go in them, right?

I'm like, I want to go in that right now.

So thankfully they took me in.

What you see when you're reading the lightning rod, you're turning the pages, you're trying to guess the mystery, the final section of the book takes place in the warehouses, the final scene of the book.

And what you see in those warehouses, I did not make up.

What you see in there is really there.

and it's amazing.

It's like a, it's like.

I'm not how jealous are you?

Well, I'll tell you, you know, it's like a Costco for the end of the world.

They're massive warehouses.

I mean, they're like five Costco.

So instead of being like a, you know, in Costco or BJ is a giant jar of mayonnaise and, you know, bug box of cereal, there's obviously, they have everything from, um, you know, things to deal with radiation poisoning.

They have iodine tablets.

They have everything you can imagine from amphetamines to

they have Cobra Venom.

God knows what Cobra Venom does.

Like

you're going down these aisles.

The one thing they all have in common, though, which I love, is they all have giant, the only thing that every warehouse has is a giant American flag.

They make it say, and what's great about it is this started, and you're going to love this little history lesson for it, is back when nuclear war was the great threat in the Cold War, they decided to commission and figure out how are we going to keep the president alive?

How do we make, if there's a nuclear war, how do we get him to live?

And they create a secret commission called Operation High Point.

And High Point is designed to figure, it's a beginning of the continuity of government.

So they make Mount Weather and all these places where Dick Cheney went in 9-11 and where, you know, just outside of D.C., it's where the senators go.

It's where the president goes, it's where the top staff goes so the government can run.

What they also commission in Michigan is Operation Low Point.

And that's to discuss what happens to the rest of us.

What happens if there's a nuclear war to everyone else in America?

They make a whole plan.

They study it.

They say mail carts are going to turn into hearses and carry bodies rather than letters.

They have giant plans for everybody.

And the one thing they finally realize, this is all true.

You think I'm making it up?

I can see your face.

No, it's all true, right?

I know.

It is all.

You can look it up.

Just Google it.

And the thing that's so

pilots, we'd look under Operation Low Point.

Operation Low Point, Operation High Point.

You will see it.

And you can see this all on the lightning rod.

The whole history is in the thriller because obviously I set it all up the warehouses.

But one of the things that's really amazing to me is they study all of of this.

And you know what they finally figure out, Glenn?

None of it's going to work.

None of it's going to work.

If there's a nuclear war, it doesn't matter if you're, that's why we don't hide under our desks anymore.

They were like, we're all going to die.

That's what's going to happen.

And basically, it goes away.

They kind of figure like, we're not going to do this anymore.

We do have Mount Weather still.

We do have secret locations for the president.

We do have all those.

But for the rest of us, we're in trouble.

Until this one guy, Stephen Beiss, in the 90s, a government employee, has an idea.

And he says, you know, the threat today is not nuclear war.

The threat today is bioterrorism.

That's what we got to worry about.

So we should probably have like a warehouse somewhere that houses all the stuff to deal with whatever comes out, whether it's Hantavirus, whether it's anything you.

And for the first time in like, I feel like in recent memory, the government listens to a good idea and says,

we should do it.

This is the most positive thing I've heard from our government.

I bring some good for you today, right?

I bring a good idea from 40, you know, 30 years ago.

And in the 90s, they basically say we should do that.

And they do.

And they build not just one, but many of these secret warehouses and they pack them full of disaster materials.

When anthrax hit after 9-11 in D.C.

and in New York, I know you remember that.

The reason it didn't get out everywhere is because this is who dealt with it.

They had push packages within hours to New York and D.C.

My wife was working in the U.S.

Capitol at the time.

She was nine months pregnant with my son at the time.

And I remember they opened that first thing of anthrax powder and going, oh my God, my kid, my unborn child is there.

My wife is there.

And that's who dealt with it.

It was what became the strategic national

stockpile, which is now all over the country.

So did you read this weekend about Switzerland?

What happened to Switzerland?

Switzerland has fallout shelters.

Oh, I did read this that are going crazy.

Every citizen, they've had it for a long time.

They almost stopped requiring them by law after the wall fell.

And they thought, you know what, let's just keep it.

So every house that is built, every apartment building, every office building has

a fallout shelter in it, or you have to pay part of your taxes to be part of the closest fallout shelter.

Well, this last week, they decided to activate all of those things again.

And they said, go into your fallout shelter now and report on on what you have because there's certain things that every citizen has to have in their fallout shelter and it's water and food and and everything else.

And I thought, you know, I mean, there's a country that has prepared and I'm actually glad to see we have.

No, we, that, the great thing is, is no one, we have.

We actually, for once, now, obviously in COVID, everyone's, I'm sure, thinking right now, well, what happened in COVID, right?

I started researching the lightning rod as a book five years ago.

This, all those, the warehouses at that point, they're just an asterisk in the government.

No one cares about it.

So I go in.

It's fine.

They take me to the headquarters, the command center.

I see where everything's taken care of.

Then COVID hits.

I call my sources.

I'm like, is this you guys?

They're like, this is us.

So what happened, right?

What happened is, and it's so easy to Monday morning quarterback and say this, but from Trump to Obama to Bush, they've been warned for administration after administration.

Listen, there could be, there's a likely chance that we could have this kind of natural virus occur like this.

But everyone bet on the wrong thing.

And I hate to say it, but Trump doubled down on it.

You can't know the future.

No one can predict what was going to happen.

But they believed that the only thing that was going to attack us was a foreign government.

So we were perfectly and still prepared for that.

If there's anything like that, we're ready.

They could have never prepared for anything like this.

But this is where all the ventilators are.

This is where all the masks are.

This is where that's where they were coming from at the beginning of the pandemic.

No one knew what the name of it was.

They just were appearing from the quote-unquote government.

But it was these secret warehouses that the government has stockpiled with stuff so this is all about i'm i'm fascinated you know me i love your writing and i always try to read books before you're you're on i just haven't had time to read it yet so this is one of the secrets one of the secrets so of course i bring more so okay hang on just a second let me take a quick break and then we'll come back with secret number two and then a surprise for brad as well Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote, the desire for gold is not for gold.

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The author of the book, The Lightning Rod, it is out today.

It's a thriller by Brad Meltzer.

I love your books because

they always are accurate and things that I just never knew about.

And usually about American history because you and I are brothers from another mother on that.

Always, always.

So listen, my love of this one, I do a lot of work with the USO.

And I've been, the USO has asked me as a thriller writer to go and tell stories to our troops all around the world.

I've been to Kuwait, Omar,

Qatar, Turkey, Cuba, you name it.

I've been to military bases reading to our troops.

And I'll tell you you

that it was there I first heard NKMR Radar, Dover Air Force Base.

And you know Dover, even if you don't know the name of it, Dover is where when our service members die in service to the country, their bodies come back to Dover.

And those coffins with the flag on top, that's where you see everyone saluting.

That's Dover.

And that's also where the president's plane is.

Of course.

And what's amazing about Dover is the morticians who work there will spend such care on our fallen troops.

They'll spend 12 hours rewiring someone's jaw, smoothing it over with clay so a family can see their son one last time, rebuilding someone's hand from scratch because a mother says, I want to hold my son's hand one last time.

These are the best of the best of us working on the best of the best of us.

That's the hero of the lightning rob is a hero named Zig, who's a mortician at Dover.

And that's where the body comes to.

But what I love about Dover and the history lesson I have is this, is that when the space shuttle exploded, the astronauts' bodies were brought back to Dover.

When 9-11 happened, all the Pentagon victims' bodies went to Dover.

I didn't know what

happened.

They found bodies.

They did find bodies that came back.

I had no idea.

It's incredible.

And it's called mass fatalities.

They all go to Dover.

So even all of our spies, our CIA spies all around the world, our 007s, their bodies go to Dover too, which means Dover's a place filled with secrets.

So that's one of my heroes in the book.

I'm like, oh, we're going into Dover and we're going to see what that's like.

And then the other one, another history lesson for that I found that I was with the U.S.

military and they took me to a warehouse that is, it's right out of something you're going to love because it's a warehouse filled with art.

I'm like, why does the army have all this art?

And they don't just have art painted by service members.

That's where Adolf Hitler's art is.

They took me to the room with all of Hitler's art that he painted.

I'm like, why does the military have all this art in one place?

Was he a good painter?

He thought he was.

That's whatever he was going to say.

Very, very flat.

The thing that is very flat, and the great part is, is you see a giant hole punched in his face because he puts himself up on a horse.

Our service members, when they took it.

We have that painting?

We have the painting.

I saw it myself.

Oh, my God.

And there was a punched hole in it where a service member just basically either kicked it or punched through it.

And the hole, they never repaired, which is beautiful.

It's breathtaking.

So I'm like, why does the military have all this art?

They explained to me that since World War I, this is true, the U.S.

military has had an actual painter on staff that paints disasters as they happen.

So whether it's storming the beaches of Normandy, whether it's Vietnam, whether it's 9-11, they've got someone painting it as it happens.

And I said, you're telling me everyone's racing him with guns blazing, and you've got someone racing with paintbrushes in their pockets.

That guy's crazy.

I got to meet him.

I want to meet him.

And they said, you mean her.

You want to meet her.

It was a woman.

It was our current artist in residence.

So that's the other hero of this book.

Zig and Nola, a mortician at Dover, and this painter are the heroes.

and they obviously are both based on the reality of me being able to pull apart this world that no one ever gets to see.

Where does the painter sit?

The painter sits actually where this warehouse is in Port Velvoir in Virginia.

But where they really sit is wherever they want.

They can go.

They have unlimited access to go.

If 9-11 happens, they want to paint 9-11, you go to 9-11.

When the 13 service members came back from Afghanistan, you want to go there, you go there.

You got to be a good painter.

It's literally a contest.

That's the thing is, you literally submit your paintings, and the military said, they pick one painter who is selected by the military to be our person.

Amy Brown was the woman who it was.

I named my character Nola Brown after her to honor her.

And they have a new one now.

They keep going over and over through history.

And the fun part is for me, is, of course, finding out their secrets.

So I went to the government and I said, how do you possibly, I went to my friend who works as a high-level security guy in one of the great security agencies.

We used to work there.

I said, how do I communicate with my friend Glenn when everyone's watching all our emails?

How do we, any of us, communicate when everyone can see what we write?

And he said to me, listen, the moment you hit send on your email, I don't care if you use Signal, I don't care if you use WhatsApp, anyone who wants to crack it will find a way to crack it.

He said, here's what you're going to do.

Here's the trick, Brad.

He said, and I put this in the lightning rod.

He says, You take a Hotmail account, you open the account, you write an email.

Do not hit send.

What you're going to do is hit save draft.

Yep.

Now I give Glenn the sign into my email.

You come in my email.

You open up the save draft.

You write back whatever you want.

You don't hit send.

You hit save draft.

Now you and I are having a secret conversation.

We've never put a single cyberspace, which is a great idea

until General Petraeus, the former head of the CIA, used that trick that's in my book, The Lightning Rod, to cheat on his wife with his mistress.

And I said to my buddy, I said,

I need a new trick.

He just used the trick you gave me.

I've got to get a new trick.

So what he gave me in the book, book, you'll see something called Black House.

Now,

here's the history that you're going to love.

We all know the White House, of course, is the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

When Richard Nixon famously recorded himself and his staff without telling anybody, every staffer in the White House realized, oh my gosh, all of our stuff could be recorded.

So what do they start doing?

They all start figuring out where can we have a private conversation in this place if everything's being recorded.

That's not called White House.

That's called Black House.

And Black House moves generation by generation.

Okay.

It is just a code name that someone gave me, right?

And it's basically George Stephanopoulos supposedly did it during the Clinton era in a gym.

Dick Cheney, maybe he sat in his, you know, homemade man-sized safe and had, God knows where he did his, but every,

there's always a place in the White House where all the staff knows this is where we can sit and have a private conversation.

You will see in this book what Black House really is and the trick he gave me, I did not make up.

It's an incredible one from the government.

You'll see it in the lightning rod.

I mean, if you don't want to read this book now, you're dead.

You're dead.

You're dead.

No, listen, James Patterson said, you can see the things on the back.

James Patterson said that it was his favorite book by Brad Meltzer so far.

And the guy who created Reacher said that Nola Brown, our hero, was like the girl with the dragon tattoo, one of the best modern creations in fiction.

It took those two things.

I tell you that simply for one reason.

I finally impressed my wife.

She does not, she doesn't care about anything I write, but my gosh, the fact that James Patterson loved the lightning rod, that I'm waiting for that moment with my wife.

I am

waiting for that moment.

She finally was like, Finally, Brad, you did some good.

Yeah.

All right, back with Brad Melcher.

I have a surprise for him on history when we come back.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

We're with Brad Meltzer.

He is a new fiction book out that sounds tremendous, The Lightning Rod.

And he's also the author of children's books.

He's been in signing children's books for Stu's children.

Yes, we put him to work.

Yeah, because Stu's children have all of the whole collection, and they're huge fans.

And you told them something.

can you talk about it i can talk about it let's talk about it for sure so i so you know i launched these books on your show right we did i wanted my kids to have better heroes to look up to i was tired of the garbage that they're being fed on instagram and online every day and i i said we did i am amelia earhart i am abraham lincoln i am rosa parks albert einstein i said my son loves sports i'm like for you had a millionaire athlete Meet this one.

I wrote, I am Jackie Robinson for him.

My son who loves Legos, we did, and creativity, I did, I am Walt Disney, I am Jim Jim Henson.

And my daughter loves our dog.

I said, okay, fine, I'm going to teach you what you can do with a love of science.

Here's I Am Jane Goodall.

It's one of our number one selling books.

So we've done, the newest ones are I Am Muhammad Ali to teach our kids.

So the moral lesson is always on the back of the book.

So on the back of I Am Malala Yusuf Sai, it says, I know that education, we can all soar.

On the back of I Am Muhammad Ali, it says, I will always fight for what I believe.

I want my sons to have that lesson.

I want my daughter to have that lesson.

Always fight for what you believe.

It's a beautiful lesson.

And I found out a few months back that our books, I Am Rosa Parks and I Am Martin Luther King Jr., had gotten banned in York, Pennsylvania, in York County, Pennsylvania.

It had nothing to do with the content of the books at all.

They were 200 books that were considered really good for talking to kids about race.

And we were, of course, on it, which was really sweet.

And the school board said, listen, we want to read these books before we give them the kids, which is a good idea.

You should read the books before you give them the kids.

What What the school board, the fast one that they pulled was, is they said, we're freezing these books until we read them.

A year went by, they still hadn't read them.

So our books, a Sesame Street book about race, Malala's book, a book about hidden figures, the women who helped NASA, all of these wonderful books got banned.

So I get a call from my friends at Fox News, I get a call from CNN, I get a call from MSNBC, all of them going, this is ridiculous.

You got to come on.

This is absurd.

When CNN and Fox News and MSNBC agree,

you know there's something wrong.

So I go to the school board meeting and I read my favorite line from I.M.

Rosa Parks, which your kids just brought in to me to sign their copy.

It's their favorite book.

And they said it was their favorite book, which shows what a man you are.

Incredible.

You and your wife are doing an incredible job.

And I read this line.

It's all legal.

Yeah, no, maybe not Stu, but

it's wife, clearly.

And I read this line, my favorite line from I.M.

Rosa Parks to the school board, to their faces.

It says, I am not a famous business person.

I am not a famous politician.

I'm just an ordinary person.

But I'm also proof there's no such thing as an ordinary person.

And I said, I just want you to know that's what you're denying these kids here.

And I thought I'd save the day.

And then all these kids start speaking about the books.

These are the best books.

How could dare you ban them?

We want them back in our schools.

And the teachers start talking about them.

The parents start talking about them.

I realize I don't even need to be there.

By the time we're done, the school board apologizes and undoes the ban.

And obviously, the books are now there.

We got 5,000 copies of books that were on that ban list donated to the school board, to the area.

There were only 5,000 kids in the school district.

Now I Am Rosa Parks is being taught there in the school.

They have so many copies.

But I looked through history, Glenn, and I was like, why are we suddenly in 2022 still fighting book bans?

Yeah.

Right.

And I look back through history to find what's the first book that was banned by our country as a whole.

And you know what it was?

It was historians tend to agree it's Harriet Beecher Stowe's classic Uncle Tom's Cabin.

Why was it banned?

It's banned because slave owners at the time did not want the idea that slavery was bad to be out in the culture.

Slave owners didn't want any abolitionist ideas out in the culture.

They were like, they're going to indoctrinate our children.

And that word is what we're seeing right now used over and over again.

They're going to indoctrinate our children.

And what's interesting, especially with that Rosa Parks book, none of us want our children indoctrinated.

And if you ask Americans, you want them to indoctrinate your children, 90% of people say, of course not.

No one would want.

Whatever politics

side you're on, no one would want that.

If you ask people, do you want us to have a sensitive, age-appropriate conversation about race so we could get along better as a culture?

90% of Americans will say, of course.

And I just caution everyone out there, don't take the bait and the fear-mongering.

And instead, actually say, what are we doing here with these books?

Why are we...

Why do we have books about Rosa Parks and Dr.

King out there?

What do they serve our kids?

And to me, if you're cheering while books are being pulled from the library, you're on the wrong side of history.

You will always be revealed, whether it was banning Shakespeare, whether it was banning Huckleberry Finn, whether it's banning Alice in Wonderland or the I Am series, The Ordinary People Change the World series, you will eventually be revealed for what you are.

And

I'm thankful that Cooler has prevailed and I am Rosa Parks and I am Martin Luther King Jr.

and now back in the curriculum.

So in each of these books, why do you put Superman in?

I put Superman in for one reason.

The series is called The Ordinary People Change the World series.

And I love Superman, you love Superman.

We obviously, you helped me save the house where Superman was created.

But I put Superman in because the most important part of the story is not Superman to me.

The most important part of the story is Clark Kent.

Why?

Because we're all Clark Kent.

We all know what it's like to be boring and ordinary and wish we could do something beyond ourselves.

And that's the lesson of these books.

We never talk, the books are never about when you're famous.

It's always when they're kids.

So you see what Abraham Lincoln's like as a boy.

You see, and I am George Washington, what George Washington was like as a boy.

And you, of course, course, you see him become president.

And I am Muhammad Ali in the new one.

There's a scene when Muhammad Ali is a little boy.

He goes to a restaurant in his neighborhood and he wants to be served.

They say, you can't be served here because you're black.

And he starts crying.

He's devastated as a little boy.

And then he wins the gold medal for the Olympics as a young man.

He's like, I just won for the United States of America.

I won the gold medal in boxing.

He goes back.

He's so excited that he goes back to the same restaurant that once served me.

He says, now they'll certainly serve me.

He wears the gold medal into the restaurant to go be served again.

He says that when they see this medal around my neck, they're going to serve me.

And he sits down in the booth and he says, He orders a cheeseburger and a milkshake.

And they say, We're still not serving you.

And he takes the medal off and he says, This medal is worthless to me unless we're all treated equally.

And that's not the bad part of America.

It's the best part of America.

Yes, that you can protest and you can try and change things and try and get equality.

And I know, you know, I love your love of civil rights and how you fought for it all these years.

And what I love is that you get to the back of that book, and there's that lesson again, right?

That lesson of fight for what you believe.

And I love the fact, you know, we picked a Muslim hero purposely because we were like, we want to set the record straight.

We want to make sure that instead of spreading hate in this world, that we spread some love.

And I love that our books have been used to kind of fight back against the cynicism, that people use our books to build libraries of real heroes for their kids, their grandkids, their nieces, their nephews.

So you have

given me and the audience a great deal of thrills in our life, either by reading your books or the stories that you tell and the things that you've allowed us.

I mean,

you allowed me to help with Superman's house.

I mean, that is just the coolest thing ever.

I told my son that, you know, hey, we helped.

Say that.

And he's, wait, what?

I mean, it's really, it's really cool.

You said to me at one point, I'd give anything if I could just once wear Superman's cape.

No, you don't have it.

Wait.

Oh, we're going to have to have a conversation.

Is this the one that was just sold?

Yes.

It's the Christopher Reeve Superman's cape.

Is this from Superman 3?

You just bought this?

I just bought this.

You know who bid against you for it?

You.

You're looking at him.

I was bidding against you on that cape, on that outfit.

Oh, I love you for it.

This is even better because I didn't have to pay for it now.

I got to see it.

Can you take the cape off?

I mean, you have to be able to wear Superman's cape.

I mean,

I literally bid on that.

I can show you the bids.

I was going against one person.

We should have called each other.

We would have saved each other so much money.

I like each other.

Who is this guy that just keeps wrecking it up?

That's me.

It was me.

Unbelievable.

It was one person.

And one of the reasons why I was so dead set to get it

was so I could

let you wear Superman's cape.

You and I are bidding this up.

If we just had a phone call to each other, other, we could have saved ourselves so much money.

Okay.

This is spectacular.

This is the best day ever.

Let me take a break.

We'll get the cape off of his outfit, and then Brad Meltzer can wear Superman's cape.

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You have no idea how much this special moment has cost.

We're with Brad Beltzer, and apparently he was bidding on Superman's cape as I was bidding on Superman's cape.

And this is...

Bring it over to Brad so he can see it.

So I can see it.

I know it says inside is the embroidered.

It says exactly.

Christopher Reeves.

It is true.

There it is.

You have always said to me,

I just would love to wear Superman's cape.

I'm turning the other way.

I'm leaving this home moment.

I was going to say that.

Can you stand up?

I'm ready.

I'm ready.

He was a little taller than you.

Might be a slight bit.

I met his daughter.

His daughter and I did an event together.

Really?

Send this to Christopher Reeves' daughter.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

I don't want to.

First, I have to tell you what's physically happening to my body right now because it's just,

you know, those moments when you just say, I'm having a permanent memory?

Yeah.

I'm having a permanent memory here.

This is Christopher Reeves' actual cape.

That

the great part is, is I never.

The chills, if you could see them in my body, and here's the price tag that says Glenn got screwed.

it doesn't look as good with a suit i was gonna say i don't think it matches but this is gonna be this is the dream i mean look at that

look at that

okay wait this is where i have to take my own camera here give it to me do you want me to take a picture we'll take it after we'll take it after but i need to say this thank you for this moment Thank you also for paying for this moment because my wife is so much happier that you paid for this moment than that I paid for this moment because you know what?

I'm going to have a house now.

And so

I know you I literally know you this I don't know if I told you this this is my 25th year as a thriller writer I know you 25 years this and we've had some ridiculous adventures together from CNN to Fox to here to everything in between

and I always think like I'm gonna I'm gonna give you something good you win you win you win I thought I was gonna come in you're gonna be like I'll do a solid we're gonna sell copies of the lightning rod you win yeah the museum has wanted superman's outfit and cape for a long time because we're preserving culture and this is such a huge piece but when i saw it all i thought of was right now this is all you know what i'm going to help you get i'm going to help you get a belt because i know guys who do the belt stuff and i can i'm going to connect you really oh yeah do they have a real belt i'll remake a belt for you but they'll get you a proper these guys are like down to the stitching of the s they know how to crazy is crazy it's and you know the thing about this thing about the Christopher Reeve outfits is that there aren't that many.

You'd think there would be a lot of them, but there aren't that many.

I actually know my friend Mark Miller owns one of the capes from Superman One, and there's just not that many of them that are out there anymore.

So when I saw this one, I mean, every auction place knows if a Superman cape comes in, just call Brad.

And they know.

And when it came in, I got the call.

And

again, I'm so glad it was you.

The other one that was for sale was the original Superman.

What was his name?

Kirk.

Kirk?

Come on with this one.

I can't remember.

Anyway,

George Reeves.

Sorry, George Reeves, and then there's Kirk Allen.

Sorry.

But it's black and white.

It was weird because it was

usually filmed in black and white.

It's Make It Crisper.

They used to make, they used to, it's gray.

And I looked at it, and you and I, off the air, just so we can say it again, we were talking about it, and both of us had the same reaction, which is it went for double the money, but both of us were like, it's not as cool as the real one.

like we want to see i mean that is the real one it is the real one but i want to see blue and red and yellow if you don't have a red and yellow s it's not really a superman yeah um and then you know and and it had a little tear in it so i you know i was the whole thing i remember thinking at the time look at him does he look like a superman by the way i just love that i'm doing the rest of this first one i look like lex luthor right

you look like a super villain

in a suit with a cape i just love that i'm doing the rest of this interview wearing superman's cape it this can't be the the more surreal day of my life.

I mean, you can't make this a movie.

Yeah.

Well, Brad, it is always good to see you.

This is Beyond Good.

Thank you so much for everything.

The name of his book is The Lightning Rod, a Ziganola novel.

It is, I have not read it yet.

I read every one of his books.

I think he is tremendous because you

tell history all the way through and you learn stuff.

I mean, I just

reading your books is like the end scene of Indiana Jones, the first movie.

That's the warehouse I was in when I was researching the book.

I found the real one that the government has.

That's where they have Hitler's paintings and all the stuff.

They call it, they literally call it the Indiana Jones warehouse in the government.

Shut up.

I'm not joking.

It's not the real,

that's what they physically call the room where they have it.

Because it's

giant.

It's massive.

It's massive.

It's all stacked in boxes.

It's tons of crates with all the art and all.

There's actually also weaponry.

They have a lot of World War II guns and uniforms.

Why do they have have all of this stuff?

Because they want to present it.

On Fort Belvoir in Virginia, there is a museum that's there to preserve American history.

And that's where the government's actually doing it.

They're taking all of their good stuff and they took the art and that's where the artist in residence is based.

So when I was researching the lightning rod, I was like, wait a minute.

So I'm like Indiana Jones right now, right?

I was like looking for giant boulders to come chasing behind me.

That is so old.

But I based that on the real thing.

And I love that people get to read the murder and the mystery and figure out the ending.

But for me, the fun is when you're turning those pages and you're learning something.

That's the best thing.

So great.

Brad Meltzer, the lightning rod available everywhere.

As always, Brad.

Thank you so much.

We will see you tomorrow on the radio.

God bless.