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Joe Biden says he's working like the devil to be able to decrease decrease the price of oil.
Granholm yesterday said, you know what?
She's our energy secretary, by the way.
You know,
these greedy oil companies, they need to get off their duffs and just start producing more, more oil.
Jen Pasaki said yesterday that,
well, I'm going to pronounce the P because she sucks.
She said yesterday that
inflation is actually going down if you look at it uh
and there was uh something else uh oh yeah yeah yeah we're not involved at all with
weapons of mass destruction or you know very dangerous pathogens at all we don't have any of that except well the problem with all of those things is all of them are a lie all of those are a lie Boy, I'm glad Donald Trump isn't lying about his crowd sizes.
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Okay, so let's take a look at inflation.
Here we have
Jen Saki yesterday telling us the truth about inflation.
Cut three, please.
What specifically you point to that has worked to bring down inflation?
Well, there are a number of steps we've taken.
If you've seen, if you compare month to month, you've seen inflationary pressure or inflationary numbers go down month to month.
Ah, go down month to month.
Yeah.
Not true.
You see the inflation number today?
It was 7.5.
It's now 7.9.
And the month to month accelerated this month.
So the argument she made yesterday is now defunct.
Well, that's because of the Putin price.
Oh, you know what I mean?
She was unaware of the Putin-Ukraine war as of yesterday?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so this, you know, last month's inflation, of course, caused by gas, really, except none of that is true.
None of that is true.
There are worsening bottlenecks, rising inflation, and a contraction in global growth.
Russia produces 12% of the world's oil supply and exports 18% of the world's wheat consumption.
Ukraine accounts for 25% of the global wheat production.
Let me say that again.
18% of all the wheat in the world comes out of Russia.
25%
comes out of Ukraine.
Gee, that doesn't sound very good for bread around the world.
Could we play the John Kerry clip?
Because he's very concerned about climate refugees.
Listen to this.
Listen carefully to what you're saying.
We're already seeing climate refugees around the world.
Are we?
If you think migration has been a problem in Europe from the Syrian war or even from what we see now, where do you see 100 million people for whom the entire food production capacity has collapsed?
The entire food production capacity has collapsed.
From global warming, really?
Which is more likely?
That 100 million people are starving to death
because of everything that's going on.
All these corporations getting behind the great reset.
They say they're going to redesign farming all over the world by 2030 from seed to the plate on your table.
And then the war on top of it.
Now, here's the problem with inflation quickly.
This will be the first time we've had a recession and we're about to go into a recession unlike any others and it could go into a full-blown depression.
Please, please buy food.
Buy things that you have to buy.
They will be cheaper today than they will be in six months.
If you look at what the Fed can do, because the Fed always just says, oh, well, there's a recession.
What we're going to do is we're going to release a lot of money.
And then that money will finance, you know, people getting back into businesses and small business creating jobs because small businesses create 70% of all jobs.
But we don't believe in any of that anymore.
In 1957,
we had 3.5% on the Fed fund rate.
So in other words, the interest rate was 3.5%.
The recession of 1960, 4%.
69%, the rate was 10.5.
73, 13%.
79, 16%.
1981, it was 20%.
That's what it cost to go get a loan.
The Fed raised the rates to 20%.
1989, it was almost 11%.
2000, almost 7%.
2007, 5.3%.
2019, 2.5%.
This is the first time we have zero interest rate.
I mean, at least close to zero, if not zero.
There's no more tool in the toolbox for the Fed.
They can't.
They can't just...
What are they going to do?
Print more money?
That's a really bad idea.
Go to zero?
That's a really bad idea.
And they're going the opposite way, right?
Well, they're saying they are.
Here's the problem.
We have printed 80%
of all of the dollars in the world.
Okay.
Think of all those dollars that are sitting in vaults all over the world.
80% of the currency that is currently out
has been printed
in the last two years.
We, we were, when we first started looking into this around 2006 and 7, I started looking into the money supply.
We were at about a trillion dollars of actual physical dollars out there.
We
were two years ago at $4 trillion.
We are now over $10 trillion
actual cash.
So you can't just print.
more money.
You got to suck some of that money in.
So we've got a huge problem.
Our debt is over $30 trillion.
And inflation is destroying real wages.
What that means is you might get a pay increase, but inflation is outpacing it.
If you got a 10% pay increase, I can guarantee you a 10% pay increase would not cover the money you're losing right now.
It wouldn't because
they say it's 7.9%.
How can that be?
Because one of the biggest hits people are taking is in their rent.
Rent, on average, has gone up 20%
year over year.
So how could, wait, 7.9%, but rent, a very big part of what we incur in cost, is up 20%
year over year.
By the way,
if you own your house, it's up 30%.
That's great, right?
If you bought a house, you're now paying 30% more than people who bought their house a few years ago.
So what do you do?
Well, normally you raise interest rates to slow things down, but you can't because that will destroy the stock market.
That will destroy the businesses because everyone is struggling right now.
You can't.
slow down the economy, even though that's what they have to do to cause, to bring inflation in order.
They've got to raise the interest rates.
But you can't do that because it could collapse it.
But if you don't,
if you keep loose monetary policy, that will lose, there will be no confidence in the American dollar at all.
He's got to deflate the massive bubbles in bonds, in the stocks, they're all over inflated.
Real estate, it's way too much.
Equities.
So, what is he going to do?
Tighten the monetary policy?
Loosen it.
It's a lose-lose.
Now, let me give you one more piece of information.
I've got good news for you today, too, by the way.
But if you're listening to this program, I'm going to tell you the truth.
And I'm going to tell you the truth.
And I'm going to tell you the things that, look, my gift, I think, is connecting dots.
I can see things that other people don't necessarily tie together.
And
that's what my skill is.
And so I am going to connect dots and tell you these things.
And you might have heard different, you'll hear inflation is up.
But
you're not going to hear two other dots connected to it.
One, the dot I just gave you on what is going to happen, what the Fed is facing right now, and what our economy is facing.
And then there's this dot.
A golden opportunity.
Those were the words of Prince Charles at the launch of the Great Reset in 2020.
A golden opportunity.
The world was on fire.
You know, people were burning down police stations all over with BLM and COVID-19, a disease nobody fully understood.
And that is what he said.
This presents us with a golden opportunity
because they were preparing to unleash the great reset.
Every single day since the supporters of the reset are waiting and they've been talking about their next golden opportunity that can help them finish off what they started.
And you are seeing it in play today.
Another serious crisis that cannot go to waste.
It's the invasion.
of Ukraine by Russia.
Make no mistake,
you are going to see the crunching of this economy and the collapse of the dollar.
And I want you to listen carefully.
Yesterday or a day before yesterday, no, it was yesterday that they actually announced and showed it the new executive order to develop a plan to regulate cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin.
Now this is being heralded as a good thing because they kicked the can down the road.
And that's true.
And that's what's getting the headlines.
However, however,
it's inevitable that the government is going to attempt to regulate Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
We all know that's coming in one form or another.
But something else that was tucked into that was worse, something that has much bigger implications for the future of America than even anything happening in Ukraine or Russia.
The same, in the same White House announcement, instituting new regulatory schemes for cryptocurrencies, they also said they are going to direct the Treasury Department to urgently study the development of a potential U.S.
central bank digital currency, a new digital dollar.
Urgently study.
Well, we know
the Fed is already doing a study and have been doing a study with the Hamilton Project with MIT on this for a long time.
We've shown you the Treasury white papers all about digital currencies and what they plan on doing with the U.S.
Fed dollar.
They've done all of this.
They've done it for the last few years.
We know because we've seen their own white papers.
But here's what they're doing now.
Now they're making it public and with new urgency.
They say within the next six months, the government is going to roll out a plan to create a new digital currency.
This will mean the destruction of the dollar is coming.
Your dollar is coming.
Been warning about this for years, and the golden opportunity with the chaos in Ukraine, I think, has opened the door for the Biden administration because of inflation, gas prices, oil, everything,
everything
about your life will be different soon.
So they're going to make a transition away from the U.S.
dollar to a digital currency, one that can be tracked, controlled, manipulated, and designed for, in the words of the White House, equitable access to safe and affordable finance services.
Well, what does that mean?
They're not even, they are not even trying to hide the fact that this new digital currency will control you and your life, as well as remake all of society.
At a background White House press briefing, a senior official who won't tell us, they won't tell us who, said they are, quote, placing the highest urgency on the effort to assess the potential benefits and the risks of a digital dollar on payment systems, on financial stability, on national security, on the implications for human rights and financial inclusion.
They promised that they will move quickly, but only in a way, now listen to this, a quote, that is smart and that is inclusive of the stakeholders, both within our government and certainly outside of our government.
Hmm.
Stakeholder capitalism.
The senior official also promised the government would, and I am quoting, continue to partner with stakeholders, including industry, labor, consumer, environmental groups, international allies, and partners.
when they design the new digital dollar.
It's a public-private partnership.
Why would you consult with any of these people?
Why would they concern with environmentalists?
And they have to make sure that it's equitable, inclusive, and efficient.
We are at the end of the line.
We have to fight and stop the great reset.
You won't have an ounce of freedom left if we don't stop this.
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Granholm calls out oil and gas companies to raise output yesterday.
I can't, can you take the lies?
I can't take the lies.
They're so blatant.
You're going to have to learn to, and they're not going to stop anytime soon.
Oh, I just,
man, I just, I haven't watched the news.
I read the news.
I haven't watched the news.
I don't know how people watch the news now because it's just,
are you kidding me?
Really?
Really?
That's what's going on
oh my gosh I think the the lack of effort in trying to hide what they're doing is a little disconcerting yeah
they no longer seem to think they even have to try to hide it from us and it's little things like uh the parental parental rights bill what is that called is that the don't don't say gay one yeah no no no it's the parental rights in education bill that's the name of it.
No, I know, yeah.
Everyone who's calling it the don't say gay bill, which is every media outlet.
It's incredible.
Is engaged in propaganda.
Yep.
Yep.
This is misinformation or disinformation or possibly malinformation, but they can get away with it.
They're all engaged in Russian-style propaganda by saying the don't say gay bill.
Enough is enough.
It's not at all what the bill is about.
It's again only affecting kids in third grade or younger from getting this information, not completely, or any information about sex or sexual orientation before third grade.
And you can still do it at home.
They can send their kids to the weird sex camps that are developing apparently across the country.
All that's fine.
What it's saying is not at school.
You're not going to question a first grader's sexuality.
Crazy.
How is that crazy?
How is that don't say gay?
It's don't say gay because they don't want anyone to realize what it actually is.
Exactly right.
Mis, dis and malinformation.
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Hey, on today's podcast, you do not want to miss it.
The doctor who nearly got Joe Rogan canceled is on.
We do about 90 minutes.
This guy is, he invented the original mRNA vaccine technology in 87.
He was a 28-year-old graduate student.
He is very high up on the food chain.
He has been, I mean, he calls Fauci Tony.
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But maybe that's just me in an old-fashioned sort of way.
So that is happening tonight.
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Pat Gray is joining us now.
Hello, Pat.
How are you?
Hello, Glenn.
Oh, perfect.
Perfect.
Really?
Yeah.
Hey, I don't know if you saw this, but the Chinese government has just come out with a new film about the Uyghur camps.
Oh.
Yeah.
Now,
I don't know who would have instructed, and I'm really quite upset about it.
I don't know who would have instructed our editors in the video department to include on one half of the screen the Germans doing their film about the city that, you know, Lindbergh.
They built for the Jews, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That
what some people say is a propaganda film.
I don't know why they're side by side, but here is
what's happening in, quote, the so-called death camps.
What's happening inside the so-called re-education camps in Xinjiang?
Was that a campaign of religious repression or an unprecedented effort of de-radicalization?
We met 33-year-old artist Abu Zikari Al-Bouli, who perfected his painting skills in the re-education center and now works in the gallery.
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We met 23-year-old Helen Noor, who became the cashier of the restaurant.
A top Xinjiang official told us that by now all people have left the education facility.
Oh, yeah.
So they're closing them down.
I don't know if they're making them into malls now or what, but they're all.
Sounds like it was a friendly, fun,
productive place.
It was.
It was.
Why did they close them down when it was going so well?
Well, they ran out of people to re-educate.
You know, so
man, man.
Huh.
Guys, they're able to work on their paintings.
Yes.
Become
cashiers?
Yes.
That's like a dream job.
Dream job.
Can you imagine if the government scooped you up and said, hey, we just want to take you to camp where we're going to let you perfect your painting.
And then we'll help you find a gallery to sell all your paintings.
You're a painter, wouldn't you love that?
Oh, I would.
No, I would.
I got to say it clearly.
No, I would not love that.
I would not love that.
So we got that lie to deal with.
And then there's this.
Can someone tell me why the Dow went up
when we're talking about now,
I mean, we've already got nukes on the table.
Now weapons of mass destruction and biological warfare and everything else.
Can you tell me why the Dow went up 652 points yesterday?
Was it because it closed 800 McDonald's locations in Russia?
And that's a lot of crappy food that now won't be served.
Could be.
It's possible.
It is possible.
It's possible.
And that's propaganda right there.
There's a typical
Pat Gray McDonald's take.
That's propaganda.
Why did it go up 652?
I mean, I don't know if you saw the inflation numbers.
You know, they're talking about
demand destruction, you know, kind of going to.
Well, part of the stock market is inflation.
I guess maybe they're predicting, hey, it's going up.
Let's keep cranking it up.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe that's it.
Okay.
Well, that would explain why the Dow went up.
Can you tell me why oil
fell 12%
yesterday to $108 a barrel?
When he announced we're cutting off 10% of our oil supply,
it was at $132 a barrel.
I do think that one is probably buy the rumor, sell the news, right?
When people are predicting this is going to happen, it goes up.
And then when it actually happens, people sell to try to take their profits.
That's probably what happened with that.
Though it still doesn't make much sense.
It's not like we're at the end of this, right?
No, it's gone up 14 cents in the last two days.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
That's amazing.
I don't think we're at the end of this.
I think, you know, $108 is probably just a...
a day or two drop.
I don't think we're
heading down to 40 again anytime soon.
Oh, may I give you another look on that?
Really?
There's a possibility that we do because of demand destruction.
The idea is to make it so overpriced that nobody can afford it.
And you start to see gas prices go down.
Oil prices go down because we're all staying at home.
We can't drive.
We can't afford to do anything.
And so oil prices plummet.
And then gas prices stay high because the refineries can't make enough money to refine the oil to get it to the gas station.
So we could actually, this might be futures.
I don't think it is, but it might also be futures saying, yeah, I think we got maybe a month or two left of this before it starts to crater.
I don't know.
I don't know if you guys have thought of this at all, but I think we might be in for some tough times in relation to everything.
Yeah, in relation to all the things we've been talking about recently.
I was thinking about like
when you have an economic downturn while inflation is going on, and then they're jacking up interest rates, and there's a war going on, and oil prices, metals,
gas prices,
all the things that make our products are all in war zones.
43% of global wheat supply apparently is in Russia and Ukraine.
I just think that there could be some issues we may be facing in the near to midterm future.
And you didn't even cover the bio and chemical weapon labs.
More than 20.
26 of them that may fall into the hands of the russians before the news can i ask you this threatening can i ask you this is it too much to ask
uh if we know a war is coming we know that the rush in fact i think we've encouraged it we took like two months to go hey russia right now would be a pretty good time to march in you know you'll probably do it by wednesday i'm thinking wednesday would be a good day to go in i'm just saying wednesday
the uh russians are going to come in and they did literally.
Literally call it.
That Wednesday.
To the day.
Yeah, okay.
So they call it.
They know it.
That's not a surprise.
Is it too much to say, hey, can we get a few Navy SEALs on a plane to throw a phosphorus bomb into
those biological weapons labs?
Is it too much?
Is it too much to say to the United States, can we just have a big red button that says bad guys are coming?
And the last one out, hit the red button and it incinerates everything.
Well, if you remember, Ukraine was saying this wasn't going to happen.
Yeah, they were saying.
When it did,
last one out.
And by the way, and we always thought it did.
And if those are our labs, you really thought we'd do something.
I'm sure those are the Ukrainian labs, but we are there because we have a treaty to be able to secure all of that.
Which we didn't do, apparently.
They're Soviet-era labs, right?
That's what they are.
So we've been in there for
20 years.
Yeah, basically.
I mean, how long does it take?
You know, I mean, yeah.
It's like building a bridge around here.
It's like, how long does this take?
How many times does this lane need to be closed?
But yeah, I guess 20 years.
And I still didn't secure them.
Still didn't secure them.
Well, I don't know.
They're not necessarily secured against war, right?
They're supposed to be secure for.
Securing things is not like, you know, when you're talking a biological weapon, okay?
I don't know.
I think secure means in all cases
completely is what the
incinerate them.
Yes.
Incinerate them.
That would be appropriate.
Yeah.
I don't know why we can keep them cold, but we can't seem to make them really hot.
I don't know the, I'm not sure completely of the science of that.
I don't know if you want necessarily to light thing biological weapons on fire.
Yeah.
Not biological weapons, the pathogens.
Yeah, right.
It's you know, it should, they're just obviously waste.
If they have biological stockpiles down there, that's a different thing.
If they have the pathogens down there, they can be easily incinerated.
The research facilities, which shouldn't be a problem.
Either way, we have ways to dispose of chemical weapons.
They do it in Towelo, Utah, all the time, where they used to.
And so you can, I mean, you can get rid of them.
And you should get rid of them.
Can I just say this?
The next president of the United States should shut down positively any of these doctors and programs that are like, you know what?
I think we take half a rat, half a man, and a tree and try to jam them together to see what we can make.
What would, why, is there a possible downside of doing that type of research?
No.
Okay.
You know, in this, you might come up with something really fun.
Yeah.
In this interview I just did with
Robert Malone.
You know, we were talking about the RNA and versus any other kind of like CRISPR.
And I said, so what's the big difference?
And he said, well,
because RNA is supposed to not change your DNA.
Okay.
It goes in and then it just fades away quickly.
And so it'll take care of things, but it's, you're not supposed to carry it anymore.
There should be no traces of it after.
And he said, you know, CRISPR, you're changing the
actual DNA.
You're cutting parts of the DNA out and replacing it, which is a bad idea.
And I'm like, yeah, bad idea.
But can you tell me how RNA works again?
And he said, yeah, well, what we do is there's two barriers
around the nucleus of the cell.
There's the outer barrier, okay, like an eggshell.
And you have to penetrate that for RNA.
You penetrate that one, okay, and you inject some stuff in, but that's very difficult to do.
And then there's the inside one, kind of like the yolk, the nucleus.
And he said,
other vaccines,
you would have to penetrate both of those.
But again, he said, and I quote, but
the body has evolved in such a way that it is very difficult to do.
And I said, hang on just a second.
Does that ever say to people like you,
maybe
the body has done that for a very good reason, and we shouldn't try to inject things into the cells like that
no never occurred to him yeah well i mean it occurred to him yeah uh but that doesn't really occur to people like fauci nah it's there let's see if we can break that barrier some barriers shouldn't be broken just saying yeah but the argument that he posed as devil's advocate
but they're doing it anyway Others are doing it.
Oh, so others are doing it.
So we need to do it too.
Yeah.
Could I?
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We are jumping off a cliff.
The next president needs to be very clear.
If the, if Republicans get in, they need to do everything they can.
Shut these people down.
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That's what I said.
That's what I said.
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Right.
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The Freedom Convoy up in Canada.
The asset freeze has been extended in Canada.
So those truckers, they still are out in the cold.
Does this seem reasonable to anyone?
This is the emergency order version of ESG
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First, it's going to war overseas.
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Let me go to Mark Bernovich.
He is the Arizona Attorney General.
He wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago.
ESG may be an antitrust violation.
I love this approach.
Welcome to the program, Mark.
Thank you, Glenn.
Thanks for having me on.
Thanks for all that you do.
Okay, so tell me
how you view ESG and what it means to the people of Arizona and the people of the world.
The people of the world, the people especially in this country, ESG, and I'm sure your listeners know,
stands for the Environmental, Social, and Governance Movement.
And basically, these are far-left, progressive, woke liberals that want to control your life and your livelihood.
And what they have been doing is they essentially have been organizing or, you know, the Wall Street banks and money managers, you know, people like Climate Action 100 plus have more than you know 65 million trillion to trillion with a T in assets and what they do is they put pressure on companies pressures on banks to be very woke and very progressive and we've seen this manifest itself most recently in the energy sector because they want to be green you know they want to be socialist so banks now and financial institutions are being pressured not to invest or not to provide any sort of funding for oil, gas, things that essentially make us energy independent.
And I think, especially, Glenn, in light of the events that we've seen in the last couple of weeks, that even though these climate activists, the pointy-headed liberals, think they know the best, literally, we see what's going on in the world, and it proves more than ever that the United States and our security depends on being energy independent and not woke.
And
it is, would you agree, it is going to trickle down to the average individual?
I mean, I won't be able to buy perhaps the car I want because my ESG score will be too low.
I can guarantee it won't be.
Yeah, and this really, this is the woke neo-Marxist.
And we see part of this going on in China with the social scores on an individual basis.
But this impact that it's going to have on every single person listening, because what happens with the ESG movement, it's being pushed.
It's the far left.
It's the fossil fuel haters, and they're literally using your 401k, your investment funds, you know, if you have any sort of retirement plan, and they're using that basically to drive their woke agenda.
And so, everything from the price of energy, obviously, you know, when we're not drilling in ANWAR or we're not doing permits,
the oil companies or gas companies, coal companies can't get financing.
That means higher energy costs, and higher energy costs, as we all know, ends up being that we pay more for our groceries, we pay
more for our milk.
And we know, and I know, that this isn't going to stop in the energy industry.
We're already seeing this with things like the firearms industries.
You know, we're going to see it with religious liberties.
And so, ultimately, this is the far left, that neo-Marxist goal of ironically, for the Marxists, they're going to control the financial institutions and the woke money managers, and they're going to use that, as Lennon said, the proverbial using our own rope to hang us with.
Okay, so why do you say this is an antitrust violation?
Well, I think, you know, once again,
I've been a tried and true principled conservative my entire life here in Arizona, and I think that very often the left comes up and is consistent in pushing their agenda.
And our folks, us on the right, need to think sometimes a little outside of the box.
And so we know this is wrong, what they're doing.
We know that folks have, you know, identified this problem and issue.
And so now the issue, Glenn, is, well, what do we do about it?
And so I have certain tools in my toolbox as the Attorney General.
And I said, well, wait a minute.
You know, antitrust law said that you can have agreements between competitors to artificially restrict competition.
Are there third-party agreements that restrain
or result in collusion that harm consumers?
And so we have begun an investigation.
I'm not saying I'm for sure where it's going, but I do think that if your 401k or your pension plan or your retirement savings are being used to facilitate a political agenda by big banks and big money managers.
That very well could be a form of collusion that's harming consumers.
Well, I just think this is genius, quite honestly.
And I can't imagine you can't find it.
My book is full of footnotes on all of the things they're doing.
And you can, I mean, the agreements that the banks have signed have said we're getting out of this kind of business.
We're no longer going to make
loans to these kinds of businesses.
Our standards on social justice are this, and it is happening.
I mean,
it's like the mob, just a very buttoned-up mob, when
they just
call each other and say, boy, you're really putting yourself at reputational risk, which means you're going to be put out of business if you don't get on this side.
Glenn, you hit the nail on the head, as always, and you're absolutely right.
And the key to this, from a legal perspective, from my perspective, we know that it's out there is that, well,
are there third-party agreements, either formal or informal, that are restraining competition?
And are they essentially inviting each other to collude to advance their far-left agenda?
And you know that incremental-wise, the left is very organized, and there's an assault on our rights.
And I know you talk about this, is what's going on with critical race theory and the 1619 project and how they're trying to get young kids to hate
in our country.
I know I've sued the universities over everything from giving tuition to people that don't have legal status to what they're doing with their sweetheart real estate deals.
And so we, we, people like you, people like me, need to help make sure our kids understand that what's going on is crony capitalism and you're getting these neo-Marxist socialist companies that are feeding the alligator and hoping that they eat them last.
And we all know, you know, your listeners know that every revolution will eventually eat itself because the left, these banks, these money managers playing footsies with the far left, they will never be far left enough for them.
There's always going to be something else we'll need to do, and eventually they'll destroy this country.
And they're already on that path.
That's why I'm fighting.
So
when will you have an answer?
And what does this path, if it does come back, your research does come back and say, yeah, I think I can prove this.
What does that mean?
Well, hopefully we've actually started the process, and a lot of it, quite frankly, is confidential by statute.
And no prosecutor with their salt is ever going to say what they're going to do before they get all the facts and evidence.
But I assure you that we take this seriously, and we've already started to get some materials.
We're reviewing it, and that probably will lead to more subpoenas and more discussions.
And I'm sure they're going to probably object to some stuff, and then we'll probably end up in court somewhere fighting over what we can get or not get.
And, you know, we're hoping this moves quickly.
But, you know, unfortunately, the left has a phalanx of lawyers and lobbyists.
And, you know, they try to make it, you know, miserable for us.
And, you know, they, they've got the media on their side and everything else.
And so they kind of play for time sometimes.
So we're going to do everything we can, Glenn, to move quickly on this and get the other information.
And, you know, like I said, a lot of it's legally and ethically.
We can't.
Yeah, yeah, I understand that.
So, Mark, I appreciate when I saw your
op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, I thought this is
a great angle to attack from.
We've got to hit them on all fronts, quite honestly.
And I think this one has a really good chance of
making a huge difference.
But I will tell you, do not dismiss the pushback from the right.
There are a lot of these rhino-Republicans and honestly, a lot of
capitalists who think, I can't tell the free market what to do.
These are companies and they choose to do do it.
This isn't the free market.
This is not the free market.
By design, this is to usher in a
stakeholder from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism.
So
be very wary of the Republicans as well.
They have been holding things up in some states as well.
Absolutely.
And I understand that.
And that's why I made that reference to crony capitalism.
And unfortunately, I think that a lot of times people see what's going on with the sweetheart real estate insider deals and what's going on public universities.
And so
we don't, unfortunately, have that free market.
You do have certain elites.
And like I said, we're seeing this with the money managers and the bankers that actually have a lot of influence and kind of pick and choose
who gets to run for what office and all this other stuff.
And look, look, Glenn, I am a public school kid.
I'm a first-generation American.
My family fled communism.
I am playing with house money, living in the greatest country in the world.
So I don't back down from the fight.
And it's slow and steady, wins the race.
And I'm going to keep fighting.
Well, thank you very much, Mark.
I appreciate it.
Mark
Bernovich, he is the attorney general from Arizona.
Please keep us up to speed.
We'll follow that story for you.
By the way, one more story, kind of along these lines.
Facebook's parent company, Meta, has announced a new tool that will automatically delete posts containing misinformation before they are published.
Now, I'd like to know what that misinformation is.
Is it like a week ago
there are no weapons of mass destruction, no bio labs, et cetera, et cetera, to this week, yeah, it kind of looks like we are involved.
Is it that kind of misinformation that changes all the time?
Incoming posts, according to Facebook, incoming posts that contain content related, errated by a third-party fact-checker, uh-huh, as false are declined before they are even seen in the group.
The suspension ability is an upgrade from Facebook's mute function, which can permanently prevent users from commenting on a page.
Now, pages can temporarily suspend users for a set period of time.
Communities can only thrive as places to connect when they are safe.
These new tools will help administrators prevent the spread of misinformation and manage interactions in their group.
The other updates include the ability to suspend page members and automatically decline member requests from users via the admin assist page.
So they're working for you.
And I'm sure this is going to work, you know, for...
conservatives.
Well, they love us so much.
They might even work better for us than it does for those who support all the leftist causes.
That's the way this always works for us.
Anytime there's this type of stuff going on, it always affects us in such a positive way.
It does.
I can't think of any reason to stop it.
Yeah.
All right, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile.
Ever take a minute just to stop and go through the list of companies that you do business with every day in your head?
Last night I showed a chart of all of the companies that are involved.
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But all of the companies that we do business with,
do they align?
I will tell you, almost none of them.
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Talk about this in a second.
Well, this relates pretty closely to Patriot Mobile and the stuff that they do.
It does.
Patriot Mobile is not
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Let me take some phone calls here.
Donovan in Florida.
Hello, Donovan.
Hello.
How are you?
Good.
How are you?
I'm just fine.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on your show.
You bet.
A minute ago, right before you, oh well, thanks.
A minute ago, before you did your break, you said, is this show helping anybody?
Am I, or am I just, it's just too much?
You're helping.
You're helping a lot.
You're helping so much.
I'll just give you two quick examples.
I have a friend.
I had a light case of COVID, and she looked at me and said, oh, she goes, oh,
you have a light case because you got the vaccine.
I'm like, no, I didn't get the vaccine.
You're an anti-vaxxer.
Why would you say that?
I mean, why would that enter your mind?
But it did because she has been preached the misinformation.
Second,
right, she posted, I'm so glad I'm paying higher gas prices because I'm helping the people in Ukraine.
That's like your mom saying, eat your food, people and Ethiopia are dying.
You're exactly right.
You're exactly right.
Well, Donovan, I'm really glad that you get something out of the show.
And what I asked was, you know, the stuff we present every day is really hard.
It's hard for me to digest.
I came in in a good mood, and one of the staff members, one of the producers, walked in about an hour before the program and said,
How are you?
And I'm like, not good right now.
I'm just looking at all of the news.
And it's tough.
It's tough to do.
I feel it's my job to tell you the truth.
We could talk about other things.
I'd like to someday.
But it is my job to tell you the truth and what is coming and to warn you.
But if I can do something better to make it easier, please let me know.
Thank you.
Let me go to Jason.
Hello, Jason.
Good morning.
How are you guys doing?
Very good.
Thank you for taking my call.
I just filled up in New Hampshire on Tuesday.
I drive a truck and I haul a flatbed.
And I was bringing the load to Pennsylvania.
It was 464.
I just filled up today.
I'm back in Maine, 525.
Oh, my God.
And I feel like I've won the lottery because every time I fuel my truck up, I must be rich if I can keep putting fuel in this truck.
525 is what you're paying.
Well, and I just saw a sign that said 529, and Pennsylvania usually runs higher, but I have a fuel savings card because I'm signed on with a company.
Basically,
the prices are going to continue going up.
And even on a separate note with gasoline-powered, I have a 6'4-hemming ram,
and I think it's about a nine miles to the gallon.
And I'm glad they're going to fill that thing up because this is all to push their agenda.
Aside from the war going on, this is all for them to push the agenda so they can push the electric cars.
So I'm just going to keep buying my fuel.
I'm going to enjoy myself.
And you guys give me drink today.
I listen to you in the morning from 9 to 12, and then I listen to Travis Clay and them, 12 to 3, and then Howie Carr.
Howie Carr is great.
Thank you so much for calling in, Jason.
I appreciate it.
And God bless you on the road.
$525.
Great.
We should find out who's paying over $7.
Anybody?
Anybody who's paying over $7.
In California, it's happening.
I know.
Somebody's paying it.
It's crazy.
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I want to talk to you here just a bit as a friend or, you know, I kind of look at us as
family.
Whenever we meet, it's it's always hard laughs and, you know, hug fests and everything else.
It's like meeting old friends or family.
And actually, better than family.
I mean, I like this family much more than
me.
Really?
You met my family?
Anyway.
I just want to talk to you as somebody who could be my neighbor, or
maybe I'm your uncle, or you're my dad, or whatever.
As we go forward, there's a few things that we have to do.
And one of those things is
we have to
understand
truth and stand for the truth, especially when it's hard.
Oh my gosh, when it's hard.
And my favorite American story of standing for when it's hard is
John Adams with the Redcoats.
I mean, everybody hated the Redcoats up in Boston.
They hated them.
They knew that the British had stationed soldiers in Boston for the purpose just of threatening their liberty.
That's it.
Silencing any opposition to tyranny.
He was quartering these people in their own homes.
They hated them.
Not as much as I hate Disney and Woodrow Wilson, but it would have been easy, easy to believe that the Redcoats had turned murderous.
But John Adams,
John Adams thought that's too easy.
So no other lawyer in Boston would take up their defense.
None.
And it was a messy case.
And I don't think he really wanted to do it.
I think he felt obligated to do it.
Because if he believed in freedom, if he believed in what this country was going to be all about, he knew you had to have the best defense available.
So Paul Revere says this was unprovoked, but no, actually the facts show that it wasn't unprovoked.
It wasn't.
The British soldiers had been accused of murder, but Adams argued that the facts pointed to self-defense.
He became the most hated man in Boston, all because he refused to defer to the popular narrative.
He was smeared.
He was an enemy to the cause of freedom, but he demanded truth, nothing more, nothing less.
That is where we need to be on all fronts.
We have to support those who are speaking their mind.
We have to be people that speak their mind and run to the defense of people that even we don't want to run to the defense of.
Because
the world is going to change, and I refuse to be a part of that change.
There's some good changes that can
come, but we have to work on those because the changes that I'm seeing are not in the favor of freedom.
So, how do we live our lives
like people determined to be free?
Let me give you some good news.
Last week, 17 Judicial Circuit Court ruled in favor of a nurse named Sandra Rojas.
She was told she had to resign or face termination for her refusal to refer women for abortions and recommend contraceptives.
Well, she
went to court with the help of Alliance Defending Freedom.
She won the lawsuit.
This is really great.
From the Washington
examiner, this might seem like a small case, but a violation of someone's
conscience protections should never go unchecked.
This is an important win for the people of faith who wish to sustain employment while holding true to their religious beliefs.
Indeed, it is a win for freedom.
I think we are entering a time where it is going to be harder and harder to stand up for your belief.
It's just going to get tough.
Are you willing to stand aside or are you willing to stand up for what you claim you believe?
Do you really believe it?
Now is the time to find out.
Some more good news.
From Florida, the state legislature cleared a bill on Thursday night, last Thursday, that will shorten the deadline for legal abortion from 24 weeks to 15 weeks.
South Dakota, Christy Noam required women seeking abortion-inducing medication to see a doctor in person three different times in order to undergo the procedure.
The federal judge struck down the state health health department rule with the same objective.
This bill will be enacted
if they prevail in federal court.
In Oklahoma, they have several bills going on.
The State House Committee on Public Health advanced a total abortion ban on Wednesday that will be implemented by the Human Services Committee.
They agreed on party lines.
to advance five anti-abortion bills to the full floor for a vote.
There was a ban on abortions once a heartbeat is detected with the same enforcement tool as the Texas law.
So if the Texas law makes it through the Supreme Court, these bills will be enacted.
Another bill called for a ballot measure to amend the Oklahoma Constitution to stipulate that there is no guaranteed right to an abortion in the Constitution.
In Idaho, the Senate voted last Wednesday to advance a heartbeat bill that makes exceptions for cases of rape or incest.
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That is really good news.
Really good news.
We are moving in the right direction on some things.
Now,
California, New York, they will go the opposite direction.
They will, if this Mississippi law is upheld,
New York and California will become death
states.
They will go all the way, probably after birth.
And, you know,
let them go down into hell.
I'll stand against them,
but
I'm not following with them.
I want to be in a state that is clear, standing for good versus evil.
Now, there's one other thing that I want to talk to you about.
According to the U.S.
official birth data, there's been a steady decline in our national birth rate for over a decade now.
There was a 20% decline from 2007 to 2020.
A 20% decline in births.
In 2020, the future looked pretty bleak.
Our already slowing birth rate continued to plummet.
The Brookings Institute estimates we had 60,000 missing births in the early months of the COVID pandemic.
So, you know, we had nothing to do.
Apparently, we weren't doing that, at least without some sort of a
of protection.
We're not wanting to have kids.
And that is because
people are asking themselves, can I bring a child into the world when it's such a mess?
Do you think this is the first time anybody has ever asked that question?
I mean, I got bad news for you.
We make it to the other side of this.
Most of us make it to the other side.
Some of us will die for, you know, natural causes because we're old and fat and can't walk across mountains or whatever it is we have to do.
But we're going to make it.
We make it.
And we need children on the other side.
I feel bad for the people who actually believe that the world is on a catastrophic, nothing can be done, climate change move where everyone's going to starve or burn to death or drown or be in a snowstorm or a desert.
I mean, can you imagine growing up and hearing this?
We have got to have children.
Young men are being encouraged to stay on the proverbial pleasure island far past their youth.
Free love movement.
Why would you settle down?
Why would you settle down when you don't have have to?
And women aren't interested in it.
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And pregnancy is
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It will stop you from being a success.
Let me tell you something.
Out of all the success that I've had, all of the experiences I've been able to give my children, I would rather, if I had a choice,
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My kids would be better off.
Success, you will find as you get older.
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It's it is what we are born to do.
Parenting is not for everybody,
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We have got to get
our population back on track.
We've got to stop the scourge of pornography.
Our hyper-sexualized culture has just poisoned all relationships.
Kids grow up now.
Nobody's taught them to be a woman.
It's a difference between a girl and a woman.
And nobody has taught men to be anything but a boy.
They encourage you to be a boy.
Be a man.
And don't be afraid to stand up and say, I am a man.
And there's a difference between Peter Pan
and a man.
And there are obligations that men have to do.
I get on the microphone every day and I warn you that things are getting worse.
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we didn't get a chance to talk about the bioweapons labs and what what is the difference between a bio weapon lab uh that doesn't have bioweapons what what
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Hey,
you remember a couple weeks ago when we none of us thought we would ever be in a nuclear war, and then all of a sudden we were like, wait a minute, what's going on?
Now
we're worried about biological weapons that are over in ukraine
that maybe we had a lot or some to do with
so they're then now the white house is saying they think that putin might release biological weapons this is great right i mean why not Why not just put another log on the fire?
We can handle it.
We can handle it.
You know what I think,
though, I should point out, I don't think our government can handle anything.
I just had this sneaking suspicion that we could have just sent in some Navy SEALs with some sort of a phosphorus grenade and vaporized everything in there.
But we didn't do it, even though we had way advanced notice that the Russians were coming in.
Huh.
We are going to get to the bottom of this.
What is in those kind of labs?
What were we involved in it?
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Robert Malone, who is my guest on the podcast, the Glenn Beck podcast, that is available tonight for Blaze TV subscribers and will be available on Saturday
for everybody who listens to the podcast wherever you get your podcast.
Dr.
Robert Malone, welcome to the program.
How are you, sir?
Hi, Glenn.
Glad to hear from you again and to be on the show.
Yeah, I really enjoyed our conversation the other day, and it was really wide-ranging.
We focused mainly on COVID and things like that,
but we did get into a little bit of bioweapons that are coming.
One thing we didn't talk about are the the biological research facilities in Ukraine.
Can we spend some time on these bio-research facilities?
Yeah, of course, I haven't visited them.
I don't know exactly what's in there.
That's largely hidden.
But now we know that it's not just a conspiracy theory like PolitiFact has promoted, that
QAnon is just a bunch of crazies and there's no merit to this.
We now know that, in fact, these things existed and that we were funding them, and we have our fingers all over it.
And they are producing something that's sufficiently threatening that the Under Secretary for Political Affairs, Victoria Newland,
is raising concerns that the Russians might release that which were developed there, apparently with U.S.
involvement in some way.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Okay.
Aren't you involved in some way with the Defense Department on trying to
neutralize or and there's something I can't remember from our interview if there was something that you were doing
with Defense Department or USAID something I'm still yeah no I've never worked for USAID
just to be clear on that okay and of course the reason that you're mentioning USAID is that in the past it's been a front for let's say gently intelligence community activities that's right worldwide that's right that's right
So,
no, I support and have supported in the past and work closely with Defense Threat Reduction Agency, but always as a subcontractor.
Okay.
So,
and I continue to do so through
one of my subcontracts, but it's for clinical testing of repurposed drugs.
for treatment of COVID-19 disease.
All right, let me play a clip of
Senator Mark Rubio
and Under Secretary of State Victoria Newland.
Listen to this.
Well, I only have a minute left.
Let me ask you.
Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
Ukraine has
biological research facilities,
which in fact we are now quite concerned.
Stop for a second.
That's a different question and a different answer.
Do they have bioweapons?
And the answer, very carefully thought out, was they have biological research facilities.
Tell me what happens, generally speaking, in a biological research facility.
So
what appears to be going on, well,
a biological research facility is the generic term that could apply to virtually any high-level university at any medical school in the United States.
It's like motherhood and apple pie.
Okay.
Well, that's a phrase that means nothing.
Okay, so we know these are biological weapons,
the third level, right?
Level three, biological
research facilities.
Yeah, biologic safety level three, I think, is what you're talking about.
And what happens
in those?
I don't know whether there's any BSL-3 or BSL-4 facilities.
I would assume there's at least BSL3, and I infer it's likely there's BSL-4 facilities.
BSL-3
is a BSL-2 is basically stuff that you can do on your bench in a normal open environment that's, you know, undergraduates might work there.
BSL3-level containment facilities have typically pass-through
ante-rooms.
They have reverse pressure so that
any nasties that happen to be in there aren't likely to be pushed out into the environment.
They have high containment
HEPA filtered hoods that you work within.
And you have trained personnel that
are
sufficiently educated so that they are less likely to cause contamination.
Any material that comes out of there has to be subjected to high heat and steam, which we call autoclaving.
So it's a series of physical, mechanical, and process barriers together with education that allow at a BSL-3 level procedures to be done that would involve agents and potential risk to the general population.
You can have BSL-3 that's just working in cell culture.
It could be
recombinant molecules and viruses.
And
you can include in BSL-3 containment working with various animal species, including non-human primates, as well as molecules.
So
is the nasty war stuff kept in one of those?
In a three, level three?
Three is
generally it would be four
for the nasty agents that are potentially lethal or being weaponized for some reason would be a BSL-4.
Three is high-containment research and development, but typically it's smaller scale.
And was Wuhan, that was a level two, wasn't it?
I'm sure they had level two there, but it's at least level three for a lot of that.
Any of these laboratory complexes will have a combination of level two, level three, and in some cases, level four.
Okay.
So can you tell me, because I think some of these scientists, I mean, look, I have no problem with scientists at all.
Science is fantastic.
It gave us the life that we all live today.
But sometimes we should just say no.
And I know we had this discussion on the podcast of, you know, well, yeah, but the other guy's going to do it.
And China is doing these nasty things.
But I always thought we were on the good side.
And I have a feeling that we're doing biological stuff and genetic stuff
that isn't quite so good.
And it also disturbs me that we seem to be messing around in biological labs all over the world,
and maybe for the wrong reasons.
Do I have that right?
So the reason that I'm worried about this, and as you know, I sent you a copy.
We put out a sub stack yesterday about this,
is that this it appears that we're there's a pattern of outsourcing our higher risk research and development to client states or outside facilities.
We certainly appear to have outsourced the EcoHealth Alliance work, in my opinion, that was involved in engineering the precursor to this virus that we've been dealing with for the last two years, SARS-CoV-2.
I'm convinced that that's a laboratory research product.
It's not a natural transfer, interspecies transfer from the animal host.
So now we have, I had no idea.
Apparently it goes back under Obama.
You remember Obama said, set the policy that we weren't supposed to be doing gain of function research, but from what I'm reading in the press, I have no direct experience or knowledge, no firsthand knowledge, but it appears that this
policy of supporting
these biologic research laboratories in Ukraine was initiated under Barack Obama,
the same person that said we're not going to be doing gain of function research
apparently in the United States.
I mean, I think at some point we're going to have to get to the bottom of what the authorization chain has been, and it's probably classified fairly highly.
But
I'm increasingly increasingly suspecting that
the
public face that we were not going to be performing gain of function research was just that, and it was a public statement that was inconsistent with policies and behaviors.
I think there's a reasonable chance that Dr.
Fauci and the Ditcher support for EcoHealth Alliance was not
that
was not the consequence of rogue actors within the government authorizing that but that it probably reflected some policy position um that involved the intelligence community i have to tell you uh i don't know who to believe and i've always known when it comes to defense and things like that there are things that we do that you know don't have to become public as long as there's oversight i'm not convinced there's sufficient oversight on any of this stuff
I think our senators and congressmen that do have oversight, I think they're being lied to at times as well.
Do you have any confidence that
we're being told the truth?
And where do you draw that line
in a free culture that has a right to know,
at least the representatives do,
and what needs to be held in secret?
I'm not quite sure how to answer that.
Do I have confidence that we're being told truthful information about
biologic weapon research or let's call it dual function research?
Yeah.
Because
that's the politically acceptable term for we're doing stuff that could be used for weaponization, but ostensibly we're doing it for
protection or for the purpose of identifying ways that the bad guys could make bad things.
And so we're making those bad things
so that we know how the bad guys could make the bad things.
It's a very convoluted logic.
For those of you that old enough, and you may or may, I think you might be Glenn, and you might remember Mad Magazine, which is why I put that clip in my sub stack of the series Spy versus Spy.
I do believe that we're in this spooky world
where it's hard to discern truth.
Truth is absolutely not provided to the general public and
only limited versions of truth are provided to congressional oversight.
I did find it fascinating though the clip that you were just playing goes on and Glenn Grenwald has done a great job dissecting that and dissecting all of the
quote fact checker propaganda that was put out out around it.
And he makes the point that Rubio, quickly, if you were to play that clip longer,
interrupts the Under Secretary abruptly and tries to get her to change the topic as he's beginning to realize that she's spilling the beans.
So this implies that Mr.
Rubio had awareness of the situation and
did not anticipate that the Under Secretary would be honest in her sworn testimony, let's say.
All right, back in just a second with Dr.
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So when the president says we're we're worried that maybe Russia might release some of these biological weapons,
what
What would they release?
And what would be in these labs that would be an effective weapon that wouldn't just
wouldn't just destroy Russia as well?
That's a good question.
So
the statements coming out of Jensaki,
by reference to Biden
regarding the risk of Russia releasing bioweapons produced in Ukrainian labs that we have helped fund and train.
Unpacking that, that's what that statement reveals is there's an awareness apparently, it implies there's an awareness that within these labs that we've been involved with enabling in various ways, there are pathogenic agents that could be potentially released.
Now, that would imply that they're highly infectious.
There's kind of two core strategies with biologic weapons.
Those that are infectious and can spread readily, so you can have a small focus of release.
And
if SARS-CoV-2 is a bioweapon, that would be a great example of that.
And then there's the bioweapons like anthrax spores or ricin toxin or
the binary weapon that I think you and I discussed the other day, but I haven't disclosed what the
I have something on that bioweapon, that binary bioweapon that
Russia, the Soviet Union was
apparently developing.
We're working on them too.
Yeah, so those are things that these
toxin preparations of various types,
those are things that have to be manufactured at scale, and then they're deployed, and they don't replicate in humans and spread.
So there's kind of those two categories.
That's what I wanted to say.
And
the statement implies that there's awareness of the infectious type that exists within these laboratories.
That's how I would pull that apart.
Okay, yeah, let's pull that apart here in just a second.
I got a break.
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Yeah.
We're just
the Senate Intel Committee is having a hearing right now on Capitol Hill and
Senator Cotton just said, you know, what was up with the canceling of those planes to Poland?
Yeah, that seems really weird.
Something happened there.
I don't know what it is.
But
I don't know where to get the truth on any of this.
I don't believe.
Our government.
I want to, but I don't.
I don't believe the Russians.
You know,
this is the time when things, when the chips are down, you need someone to tell you,
here, we have, to the best of our ability, looked at all sides, and we think this is what's coming on.
These people say this, these people say that, you decide.
But that's journalism, and that's long dead.
This thing with the weapons lab.
Well,
let me go to a guy who actually knows.
Let me give you his resume quickly.
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But the one thing we didn't get into, because last week it was a QAnon conspiracy theory.
And honestly, I never touched it because I thought, I don't know.
And I, you know, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with the government on this.
Well, now we find out we know about those biological laboratories.
And
most likely we are involved in some way or another.
So we just asked Dr.
Malone what could be be there?
Anthrax, ricin, I mean, that kind of stuff hasn't been used since World War I.
And that doesn't sound like the kind of stuff that, you know, we would use or they would use.
What are you afraid of that might be there that is more of
a COVID-19 kind of thing, except with real teeth?
So obviously a lot of us are worried about hemorrhagic fever viruses.
Marlburg and and Ebola are two examples.
Those are so hot, they're so lethal, that letting those things loose on a population is a bit suicidal because you can't know how you're going to control it.
And there's, you know, at this point, I think all bets are off about what could be sitting in those environments.
I know the things that people have been working on and what has been the focus of the U.S.
DOD, many of those relate relate to what we would call incapacitating agents, things that make you so sick that you can't fight.
But what might be unleashed on a population,
there's a wealth of potential opportunities.
And of course, now we're in a new era where we have to, I can tell you that there's a lot of discussion about weaponizing pathogens so that they're specific for different ethnic groups based on their genetic background.
And that's being done by China with CRISPR, right?
With or without CRISPR,
that is speculated to be a focus of Chinese research.
But in this environment, you know, if the way that this works is if we believe the Chinese are doing it, then we're going to want to do it to see how viable it is.
Like I said, this is spy versus spy.
I don't think there's any black or white hats here.
I think there's a whole lot of of gray.
And just because we're saying those bad guys over there are doing it doesn't mean that we're not doing it.
In many cases, it means that we are likely to be,
let's say, mitigating our risk by assessing the threat.
Can we do a couple of things like stop doing them in unstable countries or bad countries?
Is it possible that we could do that?
Well, if you go to a, quote, good country, tell me which one that is.
I don't know.
Yeah, right.
I mean, but yeah, so this.
Or at least, how about this?
At least a country that we know the refrigeration's going to be kept on for a while and probably not have an overthrow of their system.
Yeah, so what is a country that is stable like that?
Well, is it the kingdom of Saudi Arabia?
Where where are we where is there a situation now where we can can have complete confidence in political stability and not have to navigate the
statutory requirements not to do this kind of stuff, the treaty requirements.
So you I think what is often going on with the intelligence community is that they are
moving into
these unstable political environments because it offers opportunity.
And that certainly seems to fit the the Ukrainian situation.
So then could we do,
could we take this step?
Whoever's there, give one of them a phosphorus grenade just as they're getting everyone out the door, last one out, pull the pin.
Yeah,
so this
does appear to be a clown show to have these facilities in which, you know, ostensibly nobody's doing bioweapons research, but now that they're under Russian hands, we're afraid that they might have been doing bioweapons research.
Why would we even be saying that?
We're either saying it for PR reasons, for more propaganda along the lines of making Putin a boogeyman, or we know that there's something there.
And that's something we would know that because we've had our fingers in the pie messing around with it.
I just don't know what to say.
We're in an environment where
people
feel that it's okay to do high-risk research and development justified on the basis that, well, the other guy's doing it, so we have to do it too.
This is going to be the death of all of us.
I mean, this is so out of control, so sloppy.
You know,
every government, every time there is a, somebody, you know, takes over a city or a country, they always burn the documents and they burn the top secret stuff.
We didn't do that in Afghanistan and we left them stuff.
This administration has known for weeks, they say they have, that Putin was going in.
If we knew about these labs, shouldn't we
have some sort of responsibility to go in and destroy those things?
We were alerted that there was going to be war in Ukraine in the second week in January of this year.
I'm talking about about me personally.
Do we,
I think we got into that a little bit in the podcast.
Do we have a responsibility to go in?
Because I think that was the
cover story of why we went in.
We wanted to make sure everything was safe.
Don't we have a responsibility if we know that and we're there to go in and destroy this stuff?
That term responsibility seems to be
irrelevant here.
We're in an environment in which ethics and norms and what normal people would think is right and wrong are irrelevant.
They're completely irrelevant.
It's an environment of if things can be done, they will be done, because if we do it, the other guy will.
That seems to be the logic.
And so the norms that you or I might agree on, the norms that are embodied in the bio warfare treaty.
We seem to be in an environment in which both the Chinese government and the Western governments don't feel constrained by those treaties anymore.
Okay.
Just two last questions.
I've got about 90 seconds here.
Two last questions.
One, are we going to find out that we
That's a double sword there.
I mean, if we don't have any journalists to do it, are we going to find out, what are the odds that we are deeply involved in something in Ukraine that the American people, you know,
should know about?
If you use the metric that they act, they try to hide and
do this kind of propaganda campaign that we've seen where they're labeling people as extremists or conspiracy theorists as their first limited hangout.
That seems to be an indicator of guilt, frankly, when you see that behavior.
And so if you're asking me to look into the crystal ball and speculate, I would say the probability is fairly high that there has been illicit activity ongoing in Ukraine in those weapon labs, and the U.S.
government has in some way been party to it.
So
I have
thought biological weapons and nuclear weapons, I thought the world had learned their lesson that those were insane.
You just don't win.
And biological weapons, especially with something very contagious, that's just insane.
But we live in an insane world.
What do you think?
If you now have technology where those weapons can be targeted based on genetic links which exist in different populations,
then
that constraint is removed.
Do you believe we have those
now?
All I know is that people that I know that are in this world have been talking about that scenario now for a number of years.
And in the case of this virus that we're dealing with, SARS-CoV-2,
there's good evidence that there are certain gene clusters that are
different between, say,
Western Caucasian groups and
certain Asian ethnic groups that are influencing the pattern of disease associated with SARS-CoV-2.
So whether or not it was intended, we have kind of a real-world example that seems to make the case that
these differences could be exploited.
And if they can be exploited, they will be exploited.
Let me ask you the impossible $20,000 question, question, and that is,
how do you think this ends?
Do you see somebody using this?
Any of these?
I think
the honest truth is the probability is reasonably high.
And
that's one reason why we are in this box where we have to come up with better technologies to mitigate this threat, these types of threats.
There's no question about it.
Well, I honestly.
I think mRNA as that solution
has taken a setback.
A lot of these folks thought that it was that solution.
Well, I just have to tell you,
my feeling is it's not the technology that is posing a problem.
It is the people that are in charge that are posing the problem.
Thank you so much for talking to us.
Dr.
Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology.
You can find him at rwmalonemd.com.
He's been suspended from Twitter, but you can hear his entire podcast with me, different than what we just did, tonight on Blaze TV.
Portions of it will be up on YouTube, but it has been highly edited because of cancellations.
But you can watch all of it on edited on Blaze TV, and you can get it on your podcast this Saturday, wherever you get your podcasts.
All right.
It's a really good idea.
Forget about the nukes and bio-weapons and everything else.
What are we going to do about that?
I'm certainly not going to worry about it.
I will tell you that there are things that you can do in case of just a normal,
you know, average everyday Dust Bowl.
You know,
something
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I told you earlier this morning that,
what was it, 18% of the wheat
in the world is Russian, 25%, I think.
Was Ukrainian, yes, it was 43%.
43%.
At least according to those estimates, that's incredible.
I can't believe that's true.
That's crazy.
It seems impossible, but that's a lot.
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Go.
I just wanted to comment on what you said earlier about are you doing the right thing every day?
I would much, much rather hear the bad news than no news at all.
I would much rather go throughout my day being informed than not being informed.
I lived through the Carter era.
I lived through 2008, 2009.
We are in a new time where information is at war.
And if we don't have the information coming from you cut up with a spoon-style fork, we're dead in the
Spoon,
okay.
All right, smart ass.
Get off my phone.
Spoon style fork.
That's a good listener right there.
It really is.
That is a solid listener.
It is.
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to cancel you.
Okay.
And I'm putting word out.
No bank will give you a loan anymore, Ken.
No.
Thanks so much for your call.
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