Biden Lies, People at Gas Pumps Cry | Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Leslie McAdoo Gordon | 3/9/22

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Glenn explains the “Demand Destruction” of oil and everything else that could be made from a barrel of oil. Pat Gray joins Glenn to discuss the Ukrainian government and President Biden’s latest lies. Glenn and Stu explain the importance of facts while discussing crucial topics such as Kentucky’s summer camp that teaches kids about sexual liberation and Florida’s latest controversial bill. Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to discuss Biden’s upcoming spending bill and all the junk it contains. Glenn discusses a loss of trust in our criminal justice system as Leslie McAdoo Gordon, principal of McAdoo Gordon & Associates, joins to discuss Lucas Denney, a January 6 attendee who's been held in prison illegally without an official indictment.
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The president yesterday said he was going to cut about 7% of our supply of oil, and the price of oil has gone down.

Makes total sense.

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Russia, however, is warning of a $300

price of oil

if we continue.

Saudi Arabia said,

yeah,

we're not going to pump more oil, Joe Biden.

We're actually on the side of Russia.

That's good news.

That's really good news.

What does this actually mean?

And what does it mean to you?

We'll explain in 60 seconds.

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I'm offering gas cards to my staff, the first one that finds this, because I know I read about it before Ukraine.

One of the things that the Fed was looking to do to control inflation was create demand destruction.

And I know I read it a couple of months ago, three months ago, because

I didn't really understand what demand destruction was.

Demand destruction is something that happened to us in the 1970s.

If you were alive, you'll remember this.

If you weren't, just go with me for a second.

We had

OPEC cut off our oil and we had an oil crisis and price of gas went through the roof and we had shortages.

People had to have a certain license plate.

If you had an odd number license plate, you could buy it on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

If you had an even, you would get it Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.

And that was just to keep the gas lines from forming because they were so long.

It was crazy.

And what happened?

Well, back in the 1970s, we were making these boats for cars.

I mean, they were.

enormous, enormous.

I don't even, honestly,

I'd love to open up some of the hoods of some of these old, like, remember the old Continental Mark IV or V,

and it was like the size of a car.

The hood was the size of a car.

I know, I have to look into one because the engine must have seemed really small in that giant space.

But we made these cars, the bigger, the better.

And then the oil crisis hit.

And it wasn't bigger, the better.

It was the exact opposite.

People couldn't afford to drive those boats at eight miles a gallon.

So there was a country that was making little teeny cars that were very fuel efficient, and that country was Japan.

This is what put Japan on the map after World War II.

Japan was still known kind of as this country that made crappy things, and it all really stemmed from

their grenades that they used in World War II.

They never really went off.

off.

And so the guys came back from World War II, from Asia, and they were like, Yeah, made in Japan, man, it means it doesn't work because their grenades usually didn't go off.

But they

were making very small cars called a Honda CVCC.

And

it was an engine, a motorcycle engine that had been turned sideways.

And honestly, it looked like a clown car.

And it never sold anything in America until the oil crisis.

Then it took off and Honda became Honda.

Okay?

That's demand destruction.

You have something that is so high priced that people are like, I can't buy it anymore.

And then they'll find ways, if they have to have it, like transportation, they'll find ways to use less of it.

For instance, in the 70s, we got rid of all the big boats, and that fleet changed on a dime.

People were not driving those huge cars in the 1980s.

They were gone because people couldn't afford to drive them.

So that's demand destruction, and it allows something else to take off like Honda.

Okay.

We're in demand destruction right now with oil, and

it's going to cause us to use.

I guess we found

one of my producers just found an article on it.

I think this is being orchestrated.

I think this is another thing that just didn't feel right.

I think our demand destruction of oil was orchestrated.

It's going to keep us off of gasoline and

looking for new sources of energy because we just can't afford it.

But it also slows down the economy.

And what was the Fed saying before all of this?

The economy is overheating.

Did you feel like our economy was overheating?

Because I didn't feel like our economy was overheating.

I didn't feel like we were in the Trump days when things were really good.

Did you?

I mean, it depends on what they mean.

I mean, there was that

thing where a lot of businesses were looking for employees and no one was showing up to work.

Correct.

Correct.

That level of it, but it wasn't like we were in a great economic time.

Correct.

No, not at all.

We were coming back.

Yeah, coming back.

From a real big downturn.

Okay, so here's what's happening.

And I want to explain, I want you to understand

why

I say it's really bad

to get off Russian oil without opening up our own oil fields.

Okay.

It is the best thing we can do.

I like that morally we're trying to help Ukraine, and we do it by canceling, cutting off their blood supply over in Russia, but we're also cutting it off here and the rest of the world.

When you think of a barrel of oil, I want you to think that every time if you have, let's say

you have a 20-gallon tank,

every time you fill up, you're using one barrel of oil.

One barrel of oil will only

produce, let's say 19 and a half gallons of gasoline.

Okay, that's pretty remarkable

that it is that low.

That leaves over half of the oil not able to be turned into gasoline.

So it's turned into other things.

So I want you to understand if the price of gasoline is going up because

of the oil shock,

there are a few other things that are made from that other about 55%.

Let me just give you a couple of them.

Solvents, diesel fuel, motor oil, bearing grease, ink, floor wax, ballpoint pins, football cleats, insecticides, boats, sweaters, upholstery, bicycle tires, sports car bodies, nail polish, fishing lures, perfumes, golf bags, tires, dresses, cassettes, dishwasher parts, tool boxes, shoe polish,

transparent tape, petroleum jelly, caulking, motorcycle helmets, C D players, faucet watchers, antiseptics, clothes lines, curtains, food preservatives, baseballs, basketballs, soap, vitamin capsules, antihistamines, purses, shoes, dashboards, cortisone, deodorant, shoelace aglets, putty, dyes, pantyhose, refrigerants, linings, rubber rubbing alcohol, life jackets, percolators, skis, TV cabinets, shag rugs, electrician's tape, paint, epoxy, car battery cases, tool racks, mops, slacks, insect repellent, oil filters, hair coloring, fertilizers, yarn, and umbrellas.

And roofing, toilet seats, fishing rods, lipstick, denture adhesives, linoleum, ice cube trays, synthetic rubber, speakers, plastic wood, electric blankets, glycerin, dice, fishing boats, rubber cement, tennis rackets, nylon rope, candles, trash bags, house paint, water pipes,

and a hand lotion.

And roller skates and surfboards and shampoo, wheels,

paint rollers, shower curtains, safety glasses, aspirin luggage, guitar strings, antifreeze, football helmets, awnings, eyeglasses, clothes, toothbrushes, ice chests, footballs, combs, CDs, DVDs, paintbrushes, detergents, tents,

balloons, vaporizers, heart valves, crayons, parachutes, telephones, enamel, pillows, dishes, cameras, and anesthetics.

Let's see, artificial turf, turf, artificial limbs, bandages, hair curlers, folding doors, model cars, dentures, cold cream, movie film, soft contact lenses, drinking cups, ammonia, shaving shaving cream, car enamel, fan belts, refrigerators, golf balls,

and of course, toothpaste.

I'm sorry, gasoline.

Okay.

But other than that,

but other than that.

Okay.

So now, here's what's happening.

When you take that

under half a barrel of oil,

that is made into gasoline.

Each barrel of oil is about 20 gallons of gas.

That's remarkably low.

I always thought it was much more than that.

The rest of it goes into these refineries and they are doing something.

These refineries become crackers.

Not crackers,

but crackers.

What does a cracker do?

A cracker takes the remaining part of the oil and breaks it up through high pressure and heat and

takes the molecules and breaks them apart and then says, okay, we're going to make styrofoams.

We're going to make motor oil.

We're going to take these molecules and we're going to make,

you know,

car bodies, whatever, car interiors, glasses, any of these other things.

That's what a cracker does.

That is always running at 100% because there's never enough styrofoam and plastic to cover all the meat

so we always run these things 100% capacity they are now being backed off to 80% capacity because

the crackers run by crackers I would assume

oh my gosh why would you assume that well because they're evil that's why

anyway the crackers running the crackers say we can't make enough money because there's going to be a

price

destruction.

There's going to be demand destruction.

People aren't going to want that little plaything for their baby made out of plastic because it's going to cost way too much money.

So if you thought that there was a problem with

supply and demand,

you ain't seen nothing yet.

And when people are telling you, well, we're willing to pay higher prices for gas,

are you?

Because I've never met that person before.

Never.

Well, Stephen Colbert, he doesn't care.

He doesn't care.

Yeah, that's a fascinating one, too, because he doesn't care because he says he drives a Tesla.

Yeah.

Totally ignoring the fact that this is not just an oil crisis.

It's an energy crisis.

Right.

It's a rare metals and rare minerals crisis.

Right.

For example, guess what gets put into every Tesla?

A lot of it?

Nickel.

Nickel.

Just exploding.

When

you're at $67

yesterday.

Nickel.

And it's China and Russia who control all of this stuff.

Oh, wait a minute.

So go ahead with your electric cars and act as if it makes us

less energy independent.

And when you see the price of everything going up, just remember the people who are leading you to this are the ones that say we have to get rid of fossil fuels.

Less than half of each barrel goes to gasoline.

The rest of that barrel goes to make everything else we have grown accustomed to.

Everything else.

So when you think that your friends tell you, well, the price, it's worth it, really,

you cannot disconnect the price of oil

and the price of gasoline to the price of food or plastic or anything else that you are used to buying.

Demand destruction is going, is coming and it is coming fast.

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People we've spoken to over the last couple of weeks are okay paying higher prices if it means holding Russia accountable for what they are doing in Ukraine.

But these prices are likely going to creep higher, Kate.

We'll see how they feel in the next week or so.

Yeah, you're alone.

Most people are totally fine with paying paying higher prices at the gas pump.

Totally fine.

Yeah, yeah.

Now,

here's a nice one from ABC

that kind of disagrees.

We have it

tonight the pain at the pump being felt by Americans across the country.

How does it feel to have four gallons after 20 bucks?

Doesn't feel good.

That used to be a half a tank.

The average price of gas now a record $4.23 a gallon.

When you add it all up, Americans are spending $250 million

more every day on gas than we were a month ago.

In California, drivers seeing prices that start with sixes and even sevens.

$60

to fill up my tank.

Used to be $40.

Some gas stations barely keeping up with the hikes.

In New Jersey, the average price up 52 cents since last week.

What was it like to just fill up right now?

It was crazy.

It's absolutely astronomical.

It's painful at the pump.

It really is.

Especially when you drive a big truck and it's 20 gallons.

It's $100

every week.

It's $500 a month.

Now, that sounds bad, but I want you to just imagine.

Imagine how great this could be, Cut 9.

Imagine all the heavy-duty vehicles that keep our supply lines strong and allow our economy to grow.

Imagine.

Imagine.

Imagine that.

That they produced zero emissions.

Imagine that.

Wow, well, you all imagined it.

Yeah, you imagined it.

That's why we're here today.

Yeah.

Because we have the ability to see what can be,

unburdened by what has been,

and then to make the possible actually happen.

Okay.

So

let me just say,

not the past, but we can imagine what can be.

You're leaving out what is.

You know what what I mean?

It's like if Elon Musk said, you know what?

People have to get off this planet and

go to Mars with me.

And so

don't build anything else but a rocket ship and houses on Mars.

That might be a problem for everybody who's still living in the present instead of, you know, that utopia on Mars that that

I'm sure it's going to be.

Actually, Elon, if you're listening, I would sign up right now.

I would sign up.

I mean, you could just launch me out of a hatch halfway through for the entertainment of everybody else.

That will be better than living here.

I'm pretty sure.

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Pat Gray is joining us now, and I'm beginning to regret it already.

By the way, tonight I'm going to explain on my Wednesday night special at 9, I'm going to retell the movie Titanic, except the Russians and oil prices and an economic weapon of mass destruction, the iceberg.

Okay.

And Jack still hasn't found his way to a safe door or anything floating in my version, too.

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Right.

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Yeah.

All right, good.

So, Pat, what's on your mind today?

I've got a couple of things that would be stuck in my craw if I had a craw.

But, of course, I had my craw surgically removed.

Right.

Don't even know what it is.

Years ago.

So, but

there's a couple things.

We've all been expressing, well, you and I and some others in the industry have been expressing a little bit of uncomfortability, awkwardness with this all-in-for-Ukraine thing.

I mean, I don't want anything bad to happen to the citizens.

The citizens are good.

good.

Citizens are good.

Citizens are good.

Their government traditionally has not been.

What do you mean by that?

And there's a member of parliament that was on Fox yesterday that kind of explained what exactly it is Ukraine is fighting for.

Okay.

For the rest of us that aren't Ukrainians, I think the world, quite frankly, Kira, is surprised by the will of the Ukrainian people to stand up and fight.

Are you?

Well, I'm not surprised.

we have been fighting Putin for the last eight years and we had three revolutions in our country when we did not agree with what was going on with the direction of where we're moving in.

But right now it's a critical time because we know that we not only fight for Ukraine, we fight for this new world order for the democratic countries.

We knew that we are the shield for the Europe.

We knew that we are protecting not only Ukraine, we are protecting like all the other countries that would be next.

Right.

Wait a minute.

So the New World Order, you have a problem with that?

I do.

Yeah.

You don't think that the people of Ukraine are out there in the streets thinking I am fighting for the new world.

For the new order.

I can't wait to bring on the great reset.

You can't wait.

Yeah.

You know who she is.

She's a member.

Member of parliament.

Yeah, but she's also a member of the World Economic Forum.

Now that I did it.

Yeah, she is also

really talking about the Great Reset.

We are also fighting for the Great Great Reset.

Yeah, I didn't know that part.

So, you know, we hedged it a little bit on my show when we were talking about it because if maybe she doesn't understand New World Order.

Oh, she does.

She's part of it.

No, she does.

Yeah, she's part of it.

Yeah, no, she's part of it.

Wow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so maybe that's why we feel a little bit on edge on this whole thing.

Yeah.

Yes, a few things don't make sense.

I'm not fighting for the new world order.

No.

That's not something I'm on board with.

Although Vladimir Putin is, he's fighting against the new world order.

He is for...

He's fighting for a totally different new world order, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's fighting just as much as the other one.

Correct.

He's fighting for his national world order, where it is nation states and Russia can just take all of those states that they want.

This is national versus international new world order.

The reason I care about this is because we have an alliance with a bunch of countries that are one country away from Ukraine.

I also care, obviously, for the people of Ukraine and the obvious human stuff, right?

But like, as far as U.S.

national interest, that's the concern.

I don't want Russia to grow.

I don't want them attacking freaking Estonia and draw us into a war with Russia.

So, here's this is why, this is why our president and our Congress, Senate on the Democratic side, for sure, and some Republicans, they're not representing you.

They're representing now, I don't know, Europe, or they're representing the Great Reset, or they're representing the Ukrainian people, but they're not representing you.

If you want to say we have a moral responsibility to help the people in Ukraine, I disagree with that.

I don't think we do have a moral responsibility as a nation.

Maybe as individuals and people, we do have that responsibility to see it, to say something, and to help in all we can.

But the moral responsibility for our leadership is to make sure that the United States of America remains stable and secure, and that its people

can actually continue to move on with their lives.

So you strengthen the United States, and then you can help more people.

What they're doing is helping Ukraine and Europe and everybody else and hurting us just as badly.

That's not a group of people that represent me because that's suicide.

I don't want to engage in that.

And meanwhile, they're building it on a house of lies and nobody is correcting their lies.

Joe Biden's speech yesterday was incredible.

They're filled with nothing but lies.

Yeah, nothing but lies.

First of all, he blamed Russia

for the rising oil prices, for the gas prices.

Well, the price has risen for the last year.

Ever since he got into office, it's been rising.

The Ukraine situation is going on for two weeks.

So some of it, you know, it's gone up the last few days because of Russia and Ukraine, but

it's gone up mostly because of him and his policies.

Yeah, I mean, I remember everyone was like, oh, you know, if this stuff happens, we could see $5 a gallon gas in California.

Before...

Any of this Russia-Ukraine stuff happened.

I was in California and saw $5 a gallon gas.

It was there before any of this stuff occurred.

Of course, it was.

Of course, now it's at $7.

Now we're actually higher than the fictional gas station from the movie I Am Legend.

Did you know this?

Oh, my God.

Do you remember the zombie apocalypse movie?

Yeah, yeah.

The world collapses, and at one point, Will Smith is getting something off the ground.

And in the background, you see like an Exxon mobile sign.

It's like $6.63 for regular.

And now it's at $671 for regular in parts of California.

So worse than the zombie apocalypse.

Yeah, that's not bad.

Good job, Joe.

That's not bad.

That's not bad.

But, you know, it's all because of these oil companies.

They won't drill.

They could drill if they wanted to.

They got 9,000 leases.

I heard it from the president.

Which is down from 37,000 under Trump.

37,000.

No, no, no.

9,000.

No, no, no.

He didn't cut any of that.

Yeah.

No, he said yesterday.

I know he said.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He said, in fact,

we're going to pump another record this year.

Yeah,

because

Trump started the rebuild there, and then he inherited.

Right.

And so that kind of spilled over into his administration.

We're still down from the end.

We're still down there.

And by the way,

they're comparing it to his first year, Donald Trump's first year in office.

Right, which I noticed.

He was suffering from the Obama years.

Yes.

So he ramped it up, got it to 2019,

which was much higher than we are now because, of course, this obviously has been reversed.

They bragged about reversing it.

The whole thing they did, they came in the first day and signed all of these things to stop oil production, and now they're denying they did it.

Not true.

Here's the Energy Secretary 2021, cut five.

The Energy Information Administration, which is

inside the Department of Energy, but it's independent, it predicts that we are going to turn the corner in early 2022 in terms of pricing at the pump.

See, they knew.

They knew.

They knew.

They knew.

We turned the corner.

They knew.

Now, remember, we weren't having a problem with gas prices

until January 20th, and the president is sworn in.

We have no problem.

Nobody was talking about gas prices.

We were fine, and we were energy independent for the very first time.

And

explain for a minute the 9,000 oil leases, because there's more to that than meets the ear as well.

So when you have a lease,

gas companies, oil companies, they go to the United States and they say, you have all this land, and we think there might be oil in this section and we would like to apply for a lease so we can explore it.

So they get a lease and for like a five-year period or whatever it is, they can go and explore it.

I don't think it necessarily means you can pump it.

It means you can explore it.

Okay.

Yeah, because you need the permit as well.

Yeah, to pump it.

So, and I could be wrong on that.

Sometimes they don't have the permit, but they do have the lease.

Right.

And so they have the lease.

But that lease does not mean that there's oil or gas there.

They wanted to explore to see if there was.

They may find no gas or no oil.

They may actually find oil or gas, but it would be way too expensive to pump an out.

So they still have the lease, but they're not pumping on it because

it's too expensive or there's nothing to

pump out.

It wasn't economically feasible to get to any gas or oil that was there.

Correct.

Yes.

And that's why the 37,000 number is so impressive, because that means he was allowing them, okay, you got a dry well here, go find another one somewhere else.

And that's why they had 37,000 leases because they were moving around trying to find the oil and successfully finding it and pumping it.

Doesn't their own rhetoric here, though, Ants show how much they're lying?

Right.

Like, for example, they are the ones saying this is the greatest existential threat to all of humanity.

But now they're arguing they're not limiting it?

Like, wait a minute, you've been telling us forever everyone's going to die because of this product.

So you weren't limiting it?

What were you doing?

That's a great point.

And then they say, hey, these oil companies are the most

selfish, profit-driven, money-hungry, terrible.

They're going to do everything they can to screw the American people.

And all they want is money.

It's all they care about.

They don't care about human lives.

All they care about is money.

But they have 9,000 leases.

They just don't want to get the oil out right now.

They don't want to make the money from those 9,000 wells.

Does that make any sense?

If they're so

evil and money-hungry, if there was oil there, they'd be drilling for it.

Let me just play one more cut because remember, Joe Biden said he was going to do everything he could,

everything he can to make sure he drives down the price of oil.

He's going to do everything he can.

Here's cut five.

Gas prices, because some of the things that are

gas prices relate to a foreign policy initiative that is about something that goes beyond the cost of gas.

And we're about 330 a gallon most places that now when it's up from was down in a single digits, I mean single digit, a dollar plus.

And that's because of the supply being withheld by OPEC.

And so there's a lot of negotiation that is

there's a lot lot of Middle Eastern folks who want to talk to me.

I'm not sure I'm going to talk to them, but the point is, it's about gas production.

There's things we can do in the meantime, though.

Do you think there's a

do you have a timeline for gas prices and when you think they may start coming down?

My guess is you'll start to see gas prices come down as we get by and going into the winter, I mean, excuse me, into next year, in 2022.

Yeah, I don't see it.

All right, stop.

It didn't work, obviously.

And he said, I'm not sure I'm going to deal with those people.

Well, yesterday they went hat in hand to Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia said, Yeah, we're not interested in talking to you.

So, all that help from Saudi Arabia, thank you, Joe Biden.

You did a really, really good job.

Gosh, remember just a year ago when the entire Arab world seemed to be united against Iran

getting along with us and Israel.

Oh, those were the days.

Thanks, Joe.

Gosh.

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What did the Bitcoin is up now?

It was 39,000, I think, yesterday.

It's back to...

It's gotten 37 at one point yesterday.

It wasn't.

And then it's up to 42,000 now per Bitcoin.

So

what happened yesterday with

the legislation or the executive order on Bitcoin?

Yeah, that's why it was down.

And now this is why it's up because the executive order details leaked out a little bit yesterday, and there's more out now, which basically makes this all look like a kick the can down the road type of situation.

There doesn't seem to be much meat to it.

It seems to be, we're going to get a commission together to study this and that.

This doesn't mean that long-term they don't come to a really bad conclusion, but I think everybody was expecting more meat and more harm to be done by this.

And right now, it looks like it's just a bunch of commissions to study how to do harm later.

You know what?

I think we're doing enough harm right now.

Let's plan for the future.

Let's not use all of it at once.

Right.

They want to make sure they get the harm just exactly right.

So that's coming in the future.

It does nothing more than bias time, but I think that is a positive development compared to what could have been here.

With all the stuff going on, they could have buried all sorts of nonsense in an executive order here that could have done real harm to the entire industry as it develops.

So

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The gold spiked yesterday, I think, was

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Hello, you sick twisted freak.

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You know,

I want to talk to you about fighting back and how we best fight back.

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And I'll tell you about it coming up in 60 seconds.

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So how do we fight here?

How do we fight back?

Well,

with the truth.

And right now, you being a trusted source of truth to your friends is critical.

You need to know when you're talking to them, this is true.

There's nothing that will hurt you more than saying this is true and then finding out when they get on Google and they're like,

no, it's not no it's not

you have to know that it is true and there are some things that you just instinctively know for true let me give you let me give you this a Kentucky based virtual sex education summer camp taught young attendees how to masturbate obtain an abortion and have sex while on drugs the sexy sex ed camp was a virtual camp based out of Hazard, Kentucky.

The Dukes of Hazard.

Hello.

Warning.

Warning.

The place you're going for this sex camp is Hazard.

This is not.

Well, I mean, Daisy Duke.

I mean, you know, they had that on their mind, obviously, a long time ago.

The organizers have been operating sex education

workshops for children since 2012.

The camp first gained attention on Twitter Tuesday after the account

Libs of TikTok and Manhattan Institute scholar Christopher Rufo, God bless him, shared information about the camp, including details about the camp curriculum, which includes a workshop on masturbation.

Look, hey,

I don't think I need to go any further.

Do you?

Okay.

Do you know this is wrong?

Do you know why it is wrong?

Okay, so.

Who are the parents that are sending their kids to this camp?

Who are they?

Who are they?

Most likely not you, nor anyone you associate with.

Now, I don't know.

I don't know how many kids went to it.

I,

you know,

no idea.

No idea.

I don't know who's sending their kid there and thinks that that is a good idea.

Now, in the America I grew up in, it wasn't in this universe, it was a parallel universe, looks very similar to this one, except lately, everything is different.

In my universe, that wouldn't have happened.

You know, the America I grew up in, in that parallel universe, everybody would have gone, excuse me, especially in a place like Hazard, Kentucky.

They would have been, you're doing a what?

Nah, I don't think I can give you a business license for that.

Parents would just know, yeah.

I don't think my child needs

a masturbation workshop.

I think he probably, no no pun intended, has it handled.

You know,

I think he probably has that, you know, on his own.

I don't think you need a workshop on that.

I feel like the pun was intended there.

Well, you'll have to decide.

I don't think so.

Okay.

So

the website said they would use visual and performance art.

Okay.

That's porn.

Let's just be straight.

That's porn.

All right.

So now,

how do you fight that?

You don't have to, you know, pick up burning torches or anything else.

You just have to calmly say with all the other parents in your community, yeah, that's sick.

That's sick, that's wrong.

I don't think we should provide permits for that.

I just don't think that's right.

Hey,

Ron DeSantis,

he's coming out against gays.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

He just doesn't think that the school should be able to tell a kindergartner, you know, maybe you're a girl.

No.

No, that's wrong.

It's sick and it is grooming.

That's what that is.

That's grooming.

And

no, not going to do that.

You don't have to get into a fight.

In fact, I highly recommend you don't get into a fight.

The more, the minute we raise our voices, I think we lose.

And I think that's really difficult right now in this universe.

Because I only want to raise my voice.

Because the people who are doing that, for instance, let me ask you, did you see that McDonald's has finally shut down all of their restaurants in Russia?

Why did they do it?

Well, because they were getting such pushback from their customers.

Really?

Because I didn't once think.

Driving by, looking at the golden arches, thinking, man, I'd like a filet of fish right now.

I did not once

think,

but I'm not going to have it because they won't close their restaurants in Russia.

In fact, I didn't even think to check if they had closed all of their restaurants.

Now, today,

Kentucky Fried Chicken is coming under great, great pressure to close their restaurants in Russia.

Pressure from whom?

From whom?

Who are these people?

I'd like to know.

Well, the media is writing stories about it, so that's why.

It winds up being that, you know, somebody on Twitter tweets about it.

It gets 40 retweets.

Then some

business insider or something writes a story about how

so far they have not closed these things.

And then it turns into a big thing.

It gets all the way up to the CEO, and they're like, we have to close these stores.

Sure.

It doesn't become a big thing.

It becomes a big thing in the CEO's mind.

It's not a big thing.

Totally.

Most people are not thinking about that.

They're not.

And like, look,

I am really against Vladimir Putin.

Really think what he's doing is bad.

I do, however, believe the Russian people should be able to eat.

Like,

they didn't make the decision.

If they want to eat food, they should probably be able to eat food.

If you want to do something, if you want to sell, you want to take all your Russian projects,

disinformation king, and donate them.

to Ukrainian support.

All right.

You know, but like making it so that Russian citizens who very well might be against the war can't have an egg McMuffin is not a solution to this problem.

Okay.

All right.

I don't know how you deal with people because I just want to raise my voice.

He is so pro-Putin right now.

That's all I'm hearing.

I want Putin to just torture these poor people in

Ukraine.

That's what America is hearing from.

That's what they're hearing?

Yeah, that's what they're hearing.

When I say it, that's what they're hearing.

Now I want an egg McMuffin.

I know, I do too.

Anyway, we just have to understand, this is not the majority of Americans.

This is not the majority of Democrats.

You know, when we get into a place to where

it's us versus them,

can I just ask,

who is the them?

Who are they?

They,

them.

You know, I can have

friends who disagree with me politically.

I've had friends.

We've had a producer who said he was a communist.

I don't think he was a communist.

The guy who runs my company used to be a Marxist.

You know what changed him?

He went

to life.

He grew up.

No,

he went to restoring honor.

And he was going kind of just to see what was going on.

And he was going to laugh about it.

And he was like, something happened.

Opened up his mind.

Over the years, he started to go, you know what I'm wrong this Marxist thing doesn't work

okay so is he then

no if you are actively trying to destroy our families yeah then then I am an enemy of yours I am an enemy and I don't mean that I'm gonna come and get you

I mean I'm gonna do everything I can in my power to make sure that everyone else in the community knows that what you're preaching is poison.

It is poison.

What these people are preaching is poison.

Poison to our families.

BLM on their list of things to do today is destroy the traditional family.

Then that makes you an enemy of my family.

That's fine.

Go ahead.

But I'm not going to not speak out anymore.

The problem, here's where the right has always lost.

We always just are like, okay, it doesn't matter.

All right,

whatever.

No.

No.

You can't say those things anymore.

You can't.

DeSantis did exactly the right thing.

Do we have that clip from him?

This is a clip from him.

You've probably seen it a myriad of times.

Here he is at a press conference and of all places, the Strawberry Festival.

Here he is.

What critics call the don't say gay bill is on the Senate floor.

Does it say that in the bill?

Does it say that in the bill?

I'm asking you to tell me what's in the bill because you are pushing false narratives.

It doesn't matter what critics say.

Well, it says it bans classroom instruction on sexual identity and gender orientation.

For who?

For grades pre-K through three.

Five-year-olds, six-year-olds, seven-year-olds.

And the idea that you wouldn't be honest about that and tell people what it actually says, it's why people don't trust people like you because you peddle false narratives.

and so we disabuse you of those where did he win where did he win well for the first win was going to the strawberry festival which is awesome it's awesome it's crazy we went there to see

way newton yeah baby yeah just picture glenn and i in the front row cheering on wayne newton at the strawberry festival we loved it that happened and i loved it yeah anyway uh and you told me you wouldn't you thought

and he was fantastic he was awesome yeah all right anyway uh where did he win in that argument uh well he you as you point out he didn't raise his voice.

He just said the facts,

but he did push back.

It wasn't like a,

you know, it wasn't like a, look, you know, please, it's not what it's, it's not just, you know, it's not that we don't want people to say gay.

It's just that, you know, ask

for facts.

Tell us the truth.

Tell me the facts.

And then when he said, for who?

For whom?

Who is it?

Who is it?

Kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade, or whatever it was.

That's when when he won.

That's when he won.

Because everyone, everyone knows.

Except the, you know, the pedophiles and the people who just have a completely different view.

And I mean, not even in the same neighborhood as the average Democrat.

These are the people like, yeah, let the baby die in a closet if you have to.

No.

No.

He lost at that point.

Yeah, because what's interesting about this is the way the left knows this.

They know they're crazily out of step with America here.

That's why they name the Florida bill the don't say gay bill.

Why?

Because the don't say gay bill,

if that's what it is, they win.

Because it's insane to ban the word gay from all conversations.

Instead, what the bill actually does is something totally different.

And when you get them on the turf where it exists, you win.

The same thing is happening happening here in Texas, Glenn.

If you look at the, they're talking about whether you should be able to

have very harmful surgeries and treatments on children

who

may be questioning their gender for whatever reason, right?

Read any article.

about this bill in Texas.

And what they will say is Governor Greg Abbott is banning gender affirmation treatment.

Now, gender affirmation treatment, first of all, doesn't sound bad and kind of just sounds good, right?

Like, okay,

you're affirming a child.

I would say, if my son said, I'm a girl, and I said, No, let me affirm your actual gender, you're a boy, right?

That would be gender affirmation to me.

Yeah.

And so a lot of people hear that and it's like, oh, gender affirmation, what's the big deal?

Well, no, why don't you say what it is?

Why don't you say you're taking body parts off of children?

Why don't you say you're adjusting their entire development as a child into an adult?

And with different medications and unproven treatments and all these other weird experiments you're going to try on a bunch of kids, why not discuss it as it is?

Because they know they lose if they discuss it as it is.

So what DeSantis did there, and I think it's brilliant and it's whatever, it's a model, there's a reason why this guy is ahead of everybody else, with the exception of President Trump, when it comes to these polls, because he does this better than anybody.

He puts the discussion where it should be.

On the playing field, it should be.

We don't mind defending our ideas and our arguments and our plans for the future.

We're just never arguing that.

They set it up on a playing field that's different than reality.

Correct.

And then they try to win it there.

And the media assists them in making that reality the reality that most people understand.

So I want to take this to Ukraine.

So there's how you fight.

You fight on the facts.

You question them.

Question.

Just tell me what it really means.

Tell me what it really means.

Tell me what it really means.

Question them.

Stay calm, but don't seed your ground.

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All right, so here is the

Here's the argument, have you noticed, on Russia.

If you disagree, you are pro-Putin.

No, I'm not pro-Putin.

I'm not pro-Putin.

And I'm not going to argue that I'm pro-Putin, or, you know, that I'm not pro-Putin.

That is such a ridiculous...

What makes me pro-Putin?

Well, you don't think that we should stop him.

No, no, no.

I think we should stop him.

How should we stop him?

That's the question.

Well, we should cut off his oil.

Okay.

What happens to gas prices here and around the world in the West?

They go up, but I'm willing to pay a couple more dollars.

Okay, you're already paying a couple more dollars, and we're at the beginning of this.

Are you willing to pay six, seven?

How much are you willing to pay?

Are you also willing to put up with food shortages, which will happen because we use that natural gas to make fertilizer.

And we get a lot of our fertilizer from Russia.

Are you willing to have a shortage of wheat and see that the world goes through a real struggle with food and people starve to death?

Because Ukraine produces 25% of the world's wheat, 25%.

I think it's Ukraine and possibly Russia thrown in on top of that.

Are you willing to do those things?

Well, he'll just go into another.

No, answer the question.

Are you willing to do that?

Are you also willing to tube your entire, not lifestyle?

We can all go, I'll take a hit.

Our grandparents did for World War II.

It's not that.

It's an end to our way of life, our system,

our economy, the U.S.

dollar.

It's the end to all of it.

Are you willing to lose your entire savings?

Well, no, but that's not going to happen.

It is going to happen.

And I can show you all of the facts and all of the experts because it's math.

At this point, it's just math.

So that is going to happen.

Are you willing to do it?

Well, in that case, well, no, but that's not going to happen.

Okay.

Here's where I can meet you in the middle.

Open up all of our oil and gas fields right now.

If you want to stop Russia, the way to do it is not through war, not through nuclear weapons.

I agree.

Cut him off that hurts the most, and that is oil and gas, but not the rest of the world.

We cannot make the rest of the world suffer and collapse the West by doing it.

Just think of the effect on gas prices if a Democratic president just signaled they were going to do that.

Forget the actual oil coming on the market.

But think about what the effect would be if a Democratic president, Mr.

I, you know, global warming is the biggest existential threat said you know what this threat is so big we're opening up we're going to take care of this problem just the announcement

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Which one's lying?

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Remember, what was it?

Yesterday, two days ago,

we had a Mississippi representative on, and he said about, he was talking about the tri-what was it?

The tri-state compact.

Just got a note from him, said,

we're in committee right now killing the tri-state compact

that is really good news apparently people have called in in in those three states and said no we're not doing it please look for these things in your state all kinds of things are being passed

and you don't know about them and they are they are restructuring America entirely

all right there's another bill that you should be very well aware of Chip Roy is here.

Congress has to pass a spending bill by Friday to avoid a government shutdown.

Let me hang on just a second.

Let me pause for a minute to think about all the bad things that might happen with a government shutdown.

Okay, that's enough time.

I'm over my morning now.

Let's go to Chip Roy.

Hello, Chip.

How are you?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

How are you, my friend?

I'm good.

So now,

this has to pass by Friday, but you got the spending bill last night,

this morning, 2 a.m.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Just so your listeners understand what's going on, right?

You'll remember that there was a continuing resolution that was passed in September to December, then December to February 18th, then February 18th to March 11th, which, of course, is Friday.

At every point along that line, we conservatives have been saying we should be doing something to fight for the American people, like end vaccine mandates, like stand-up for border security.

We've gotten nothing, nothing at all, obviously from Democrats, but worse, nothing from Republicans.

Well, now here we sit, and now Ukraine is going on, and now the entire establishment in D.C.

is all a Twitter that we've got to pass this funding bill so that one, we can pass a supplemental, basically war funding bill, even though we're not, quote, at war, to go send stuff to Ukraine with no debate, by the way, and then pass a funding bill for the overall government.

Now, we're not just passing a CR, we're passing an omnibus appropriations bill, okay, that packages everything together and spends a crap ton of your money or borrowed money.

Yes, we got the bill last night at 1.30 in the morning.

It was emailed to us at 2.30, to be clear.

So we woke up early.

Some of my staff is getting in the middle of the night.

We're looking through it.

It's 2,700 pages long.

It's a $1.512 trillion annual spending level bill that is, the best I can tell, about an $88 billion minimum plus-up from last year's spending level, not counting Ukraine, Glenn.

That's just $88 billion of overall spending increases, both defense and non-defense.

I think it's more than that, but that's the bare minimum increase.

We're trying to figure it out.

That's at least a 6% increase, but I think the increase is closer to 8% to 10%.

And we're trying to figure it out.

And

we don't know on what.

Well, right.

We're going through to figure out all the levels.

When do you have to vote on this?

We're going to vote on the rule.

We just made a motion to adjourn to shut the place down, which we will lose, but we're just trying to buy time.

And then we will vote on the rule sometime this morning and then vote on the bill in a few hours.

Nobody's even read it.

No, it's 2,700 pages.

All the appropriators will tell you that all the appropriation staff and all of the appropriator cardinals, they've all looked at it, Glenn.

So those handful of people will tell you how our country should be moving forward, not your elected representative.

Okay, tell me

what's in this.

Anything on oil and gas?

So there is not one thing, to the best of our knowledge, we're searching through it, that will help American oil and gas improve.

One thing.

COVID.

COVID vaccine.

Nothing in there.

Nothing in there to end the COVID vaccine mandates.

Now pause.

We're hoping that Mike Lee will force a vote on an amendment in the Senate.

But remember, last time he did that, Mike Lee and company,

Mitt Romney and company walked out.

But right now, there is nothing in the bill in the House that we're voting on today, to the best of my knowledge, that does anything for American oil and gas, that does anything at all to end the vaccine mandates, and then nothing to truly secure the border of the United States.

Now, what my Republican establishment colleagues will say is, oh, don't worry, Chip.

We're going to give more money to ICE and Border Patrol.

Well, Gwen, you know the truth.

You're a Texan.

You know what's going on at the border.

If we give more money to ICE and border people process more people.

They're going to process more people.

They're going to not prosecute bad actors.

They're not going to stop fentanyl.

They're not going to stop the cartels.

They're literally going to process more illegal aliens coming to the United States in the false name of asylum.

There is $15.6 billion in supplemental for COVID.

What the hell does that mean?

We don't know.

My staff's trying to figure out exactly what that means.

There's like slight good news is apparently that's offset out of previous COVID money.

But whoop-de-doo, it's still another $15.6 billion that's being refocused and targeted towards we don't know what.

But I can promise you the continuation of BS COVID

forced policies like the masks that are still interfering with our kids, the vaccine mandates that are harming our folks, they'll say it's for research and stuff, but Lord only knows.

But it's going to be 13 point, I think, 6 billion of Ukraine supplemental funding plus the 15.6 billion of COVID supplemental funding on top of the 15 point, whatever the hell, I've lost the number, $1,2 trillion.

I'm sorry, $1.512 trillion total package.

All right.

So let me ask you, when it comes to the Ukraine spending, what are we spending it on?

Well, again, peeling that back, there's, I believe, it is roughly two-thirds lethal aid.

I don't know for sure, where we're going to be funding additional stingers

and lethal aid to the Ukrainians.

And then there's X amount of it.

I think the other third or so is for humanitarian aid.

We'll know those numbers for sure here soon, reporting over it.

What stops us from passing just that separately?

Well,

the politics of this town, right?

I mean, now, I haven't seen the actual votes called or whether we'll get a clean, straight-up vote on it.

I don't believe we will.

I think it's going to be packaged with, I think we're going to have two votes, one on the security portion, which includes defense appropriations, homeland security, and I think this supplemental.

I'm not positive about that.

I'll find out for sure and

I'll send it to your team.

And then a separate vote on the non-defense discretionary bill, I think.

But the bottom line is they're doing this all today to jam it all through, I suspect altogether, because they want that to be the case, case, right?

They don't want to be able to have a separate debate.

We should be debating our Ukraine funding, right?

You and I are both horrified.

I don't want to speak for you, but horrified by what Putin is doing.

I gave a speech last night on the floor of the House about what he's doing to orphans and children and families and separating families and blowing up bridges and blowing up schools and apartments and harming people.

He's a thug, a KGB dictator who's killed people.

But I want to know what we're spending this money on, and are we at war or not?

I want to know what we're going to get out of this.

I want to know when we're spending this money, where's it coming from?

This is an offset.

This is another $13.6 billion.

What are we going to do?

We didn't debate it, Glenn.

Not one debate on the floor of the House.

Not one.

A handful of speeches in a quiet chamber.

Meanwhile, a handful of people in smoke-filled rooms upstairs.

Well, I'm not smoke-filled anymore because that's not politically correct.

But upstairs in a dark room, making decisions for all of America.

So, Chip,

how many Republicans are willing to stand?

I mean, now is the time

to take a stand

and to show America who you really are.

And I'll bet you the vast majority are like, we got to do it for the Ukrainian people.

So I'm not sure yet.

I'm going to be blasting the hell out of it all day.

I know that my Freedom Caucus colleagues largely oppose it.

I don't know what the numbers are ultimately going to be.

Right now, I'm going to just give you a target line of 50-50 in the House Republican conference.

But I'm not sure.

I think people are kind of watching this unfold.

They're peeling the bill back.

Not one Republican should vote for this bill.

Unfortunately, a large number will.

And they will do so falsely in the name of going out and helping the Ukrainians when, in fact, they're using that as a beard to continue to grow and develop government.

And they always have excuses as to why that's okay.

We have to do that, Glenn.

You don't understand.

We have to do that, Chip.

We know what's important here.

Look, we don't have the majority.

When you give us power, then we'll have puppy dogs and rainbows, and we'll beat the fiscal conservatives that you guys have been asking for.

No, you won't.

Show me right now that you are.

I would recommend that everyone calls their congressmen and their senators today,

right now, and say, I have a very long memory.

This omnibus spending bill that you have to that you have to pass.

I would rather have the government shut down

than pass something that none of you have even read.

You haven't even read it.

No,

no more crazy spending like this in the middle of the night and tell them you can debate the

Ukrainian

money.

Go ahead.

Everything that's going, you have a debate on it and you could pass that today.

You could pass that tomorrow.

But that does not, I am not that stupid.

I'm not this stupid.

I know what's happening and I will remember you.

I'm voting.

I vote for people like you

and I'm going to campaign for people like you.

But if you don't stand right now, when it's it's pretty easy because you're not going to, you're not even going to, your vote won't matter.

If you won't do it now, you certainly won't do it when you have power.

And if you won't do it now, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that I work for your

competition.

I work for the candidate running against you.

And if nobody's running against you, I might run against you.

Because we need some courage right now.

You call your senator and your house member and you tell them that right now.

It's the omnibus bill.

They're going to pass it in the house today.

So you've got to call them right now and then it'll head over to the Senate.

And by the way, make sure you call

the

Weasels, the Romneys in the Senate who will not stand up against this, won't stand up by any stretch of the imagination, and won't support Mike Lee.

Good God, the guy won't even support Mike Lee in an endorsement because his good friend is Egg McMuffin or whatever his name is.

And it's, I mean, the guy is weak and pathetic.

Make sure you call those senators and your congressmen now.

Chip, do I have it covered?

Is there anything else that people can do?

Hey, man, you got it.

You got it covered.

This is exactly right.

Everybody out there listening, Glenn is exactly right.

You need to light everybody up.

Do not let your Republican leadership, your Republican representatives who claim fiscal conservative, who claim to fight for you, get away with this crap.

This is crap.

You need to call them out on it, light the phones up, and let them know this is unacceptable.

Yeah, and do the phone.

Please don't

email them.

They can dismiss emails, but the phones make a difference.

Thank you so much, Chip.

I appreciate it.

God bless the girl.

You bet it to our Representative Chip Roy.

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So, you know, this is really a tough situation that we're all in with Vladimir Putin and Ukraine because we all want it to stop.

We all think that Putin is a monster.

We all would like sanctions.

But it's the way it's happening.

First of all, the oil sanctions.

We should not be crippling ourself.

So it's a race to the finish line when we don't have to.

We don't have to make this sacrifice of our economy.

All you have to do is just open up the pumping.

The other is all of these companies.

McDonald's isn't saying, we're closing down all of our restaurants in Russia because of reputational risk.

Reputational risk?

What?

There were so many people that were really mad at you that they were saying, I'm never going to buy a McDonald's burger again unless you do this?

No, not a lot of people actually do it.

The reputational risk is not from the public.

It is from the insurance companies and the banks and everyone else being cut out because you're not on the right side of things.

You know,

they were showing some of the McDonald's that were set to close down the next day, and there were lines of Russians, you know, going like a mile because they wanted to get their last McDonald's purchase purchase in before they close down.

And I thought to myself, we have a lot of cultural differences, but I felt almost Russian in that moment.

You know,

that would be me.

If I was Russian, I'd be like, first of all, I'd be thinking Vladimir Putin's an idiot, just like I think our president here is an idiot.

And then I'd be in a line at McDonald's trying to buy everything that they had before they closed.

So the problem with this is, is not that this is

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Reset.

And this system is what they have in China and what they have now Putin is building in Russia.

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You were a terrorist.

You don't think it's going to be used?

The Justice Department was investigating terrorism.

Well, how hard is that compared to just having banks say, you know what, I saw what you're doing at the school board and you're a reputational risk to us.

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but it is important that we really reflect on it.

It was January 6th.

January 6th, Matthew Perna entered through an open door in the U.S.

Capitol.

The door was open.

He walked through the Senate wing lobby, chanting USA, USA.

He left 20 minutes later.

He recorded all of it on his phone.

After returning to his home in western Pennsylvania, he sat down and started watching TV, and he saw a bulletin with his face on it.

Matthew did the right thing.

He called to turn himself in.

He called the FBI without knowing that people he knew had already done that for him.

In December, He pleaded guilty to charges of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting,

entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, and disorderly conduct in the Capitol building.

They are all misdemeanors except for federal obstruction, which holds a penalty of up to 20 years.

Matthew's sentencing was scheduled for a couple of weeks from now, April 1st.

Now, he may have faced a fair trial in court.

The court of public opinion and the Biden administration, mainstream media, had already ruled against him.

He was a traitor.

He was a terrorist.

He was worthy of being turned in by his own friends.

He was publicly ridiculed by major voices as a threat to democracy.

You know how this ends for Matthew.

He won't be present for his sentencing because he took his own life on February 25th.

After his death, his lawyer said the government had recently announced an intention to seek an additional sentencing enhancement with mister Perna.

He was psychologically frail and not able to deal with the stress of the situation.

He hung himself.

In his obituary, his family wrote, Matthew Lawrence Perna died on February 25th, 2022 of a broken heart.

His community, which he loved, his country, and the justice system killed his spirit and his zest for life.

The constant delays in hearings, the postponements dragged out for over a year.

Because of this, Matt's heart broke and his spirit died.

No one can really understand or know the mind of a suicide victim.

It's an act of insanity.

You just want everything to stop.

And you've convinced yourself things would be better for your family and everybody you love if you were gone.

If we take his family at their word, Matthew lost so much faith in America and our justice system that suicide seemed a more reasonable thing

than

going to court.

The story of his broken faith

hit Americans hard when they heard it.

But it sends an ominous message about the state of our Union.

We now no longer trust our own nation to deal justly with us.

Violent criminals released without bail.

I just saw a sentence for a guy who

just

completely beat almost to death this elderly man.

He's got an ankle bracelet.

He's back out.

Illegal immigrants bust across the country in the middle of the night.

And yet there is a collective silence for the rights of the January 6th defendants.

We hesitate as people to

stand up for the January 6th defendants because we don't know exactly what they were charged with.

We don't know who they are, which is weird, isn't it?

People notice the double standard.

They feel it.

And we can't ignore those fears.

If the goal of our Justice Department is to break the spirit of our political prisoners, then they succeeded in the case of Matthew Perna.

But if the goal is, as their mission states, to ensure fair and impartial administration of justice for all Americans, then we've got a lot of work to do.

For the guilty and for the innocent, we need real justice.

But what we're getting now is social justice.

And it will turn.

If you're for social justice, it will turn on you in your lifetime.

Let's see how you feel about it then.

We need real justice, but if it doesn't come or doesn't come quickly enough, we need to keep our heads up.

We need to be there for one another and ourselves.

We have to keep the faith.

You have to know that you can make things better and that your voice, your life, matters.

Nelson Mandela

was a political prisoner, and he was a bad guy.

He was a communist.

He was engaged in violent activity.

But look at the difference he made.

Look at the difference he made in the end.

James Colmy came out with an op-ed.

It was published in the Washington Post

this week, and

it was directed right to the FBI agents.

And he said, we're a nation of laws, and the FBI is an organization dedicated to the rule of law.

You have to support and defend the Constitution.

We've always had divisive politics in the United States.

But despite all the division, passion, and anger, we've never had something like January 6th.

I'm so tired of hearing that.

It is such a lie.

Such a lie.

In fact, I could,

in fact, why don't I play the New York Times reporter caught by Project Veritas telling the truth.

A guy who wrote about how scary it was,

how difficult, how horrible it was.

Here he is talking to an undercover reporter from Project Veritas.

Listen to this.

It's like January some stuff, but it's like so over at this point.

It's so

less overreaction.

The less reaction to it in some places was so over the top.

It was like me and two other colleagues who were there around.

I mean, you're just having fun.

Dude, come on.

Like,

you were not in any danger.

Like, you could tell how much fun we had on January.

Oh, that's great.

Are you allowed to have that much fun on January?

Like, I just watched me mourning.

I know.

I know.

So I've been traumatized.

But, like, all those colleagues who are in the building,

I'm like, oh, you're just so stupid.

I'm like, oh,

is that really the vibe?

Mac.

From them.

I'm like, come on.

It's not the kind of place you can sit tell me to man up, but I kind of want to to be like, dude, come on.

You were not in any danger.

Got an Zola, got an Adam,

I'm going to stop it there because you can find this online, and I urge you to watch it.

But this is a New York Times reporter that was reporting how dangerous this was.

There's never been anything like January 6th, yada, yada.

But when he is talking to some young girl who's just asking about, wow, you were there, he was like, it was no big deal.

We were fine.

They're all overreacting.

No one was ever in any danger.

Okay, so what's the truth on that?

What's the truth?

Well, Comey says that we are a nation of laws, and we have to charge people

with crimes.

We have to.

And

we can't decide which laws to uphold and which not.

Americans decided it was okay to physically interfere with the election procedures set out in our Constitution and laws, and it can't happen again.

And he says,

even if you disagree, you have to enforce this law.

January 6th can't happen again.

Whatever their politics, it can't happen again.

Now, listen, he goes on to say, normally when you make a criminal case, you're thinking about personal deterrence or incapacitation, two of the main goals of criminal prosecution.

That is, you're making a case to keep the bad guy from hurting someone else.

But But there are January 6th cases like that, and I suspect all agents agree that anyone who hit a cop or ransacked a room or conspired a violent sedition must be locked up.

But January 6th investigation is mostly about something you might not like to think much about in your normal caseload.

General deterrence.

It's about sending a message, a shockwave of deterrence, so future Americans, whether misled by a lying demagogue or rightfully concerned about the loss of their rights, never again assault the institutions of government.

Now, that is not, that, that's not, uh, that's not blind justice.

That is not blind justice.

I don't even know if that's legal.

Do you hear about the Whitmer case, the kidnapping defendants?

Gretchen Whitmer, apparently, these guys were going to kidnap her and then I guess kill her or whatever.

I thought this was really pretty serious until I found out that there were like 12 FBI agents there.

By the way, the guy from the New York Times said FBI agents, undercover FBI agents were everywhere.

I don't know who to believe, what to trust.

I know thou that they have all signed a plea deal.

They've all signed a plea deal, the Whitmer case, and they all have in their plea deal that they testify that there was no FBI interference, that they were not influenced by the FBI.

That's a really interesting thing.

Kind of makes me wonder again about Matthew.

I mean, you know, here he was.

Here he was.

He was ready to pay a price, And then they said, you know, there's a heavier price to pay.

And he couldn't face that.

I mean, I guess we all have our breaking point.

Don't let anyone break your spirit.

Focus on restoration.

We're not about burning things down.

We're about restoring our nation's institution to their proper working order.

We don't need a great reset.

We need to unplug it and plug it back in.

We need to set it back to its factory settings.

The software is all screwed up.

It's all corrupted.

So what do you do in your computer?

You turn it off and turn it back on again and restore the factory settings.

That's what has to happen.

Our system is good and has taken many years and many men and endless amounts of effort and money and

blood.

And we have become wholly disillusioned, disheartened, distrustful.

And when we do that, those who hate America get exactly what they want.

We love this country and want it restored to factory settings.

Did you see that poll that came out yesterday that 60, I think it was 67% of Democrats, if somebody came and invaded our country, they would run.

They wouldn't stick around?

Says so much.

Says everything.

There's nothing worthwhile.

We are no, you can go to Canada and no big deal.

That says everything.

67%.

That should tell you something also about war in general.

We are not the World War II generation.

I've never seen a number like that in America, that we would turn tail and run.

And the number between

of young males who would actually need to be fighting a war like this was terrible.

I mean, it was, it's not even just party, it's it's youth as well.

It's great that a bunch of 80-year-olds want to go out and fight the war.

We love that.

We thank them for that.

Correct.

But man, the people who actually need to be fighting it don't have any interest in it.

And how are you going to fight?

I mean, will you just cave?

Will we just cave?

Because there's another battle that's coming, and it's a battle of ESG.

It's a battle of being on the wrong side.

You notice no BLM people went to jail.

Nothing serious, right?

But if you were against the left,

if you were a conservative, if you were for Trump,

you now, you've just been disappeared.

And they're trying to break your spirit.

Are you strong enough to do that?

Are you strong enough to be a pariah?

See, fear is all they have.

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If you kind of feel like, wow,

we're not winning and who has a plan?

There's a clear plan.

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But it requires, you know how they always say, it's not a diet.

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The reason why I can't do it now is because

we have Leslie Gordon on.

She is a former special agent for the Department of Defense.

She's an attorney.

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she doesn't understand.

She doesn't understand why the DOJ is

rushing to obtain indictment for a January 6th defendant.

there's a illegal detention claim.

Somebody else has just disappeared.

Not,

you know, what's happening?

Don't I have a right to a speedy trial?

It's been over a year.

Where's my trial?

What's happening?

You can't detain me like this.

Now the DOJ is trying to sweep that under the rug.

His attorney, he, and everyone else around him, cannot speak to the press.

It wouldn't go well, I guess.

So we found somebody that could speak, somebody who has written about what's happening to these January 6th guys.

We have to care about the process, even for people that may be guilty.

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I want to preface this conversation with

I am not

supporting or against

this particular

prisoner.

I don't know.

He's charged with some awful things, and he may be guilty of all of them.

I don't know, but I do know this.

We have a system where you have to try people and you have a speedy trial.

You have to indict people, et cetera, et cetera.

You cannot let them languish in jail.

That is against our Constitution.

So I wanted to talk to somebody who has been in the courtroom, former special agent for the Department of Defense,

Leslie

McAdoo Gordon.

And

Leslie, I read your tweets about what happened in the courtroom.

And I have to tell you, I don't think

any other trial would end this way, would it?

well glenn thank you for inviting me to talk about it today um and let me say that what happened this week in the courthouse is not a trial well yeah i know it's a hearing

very far from a trial yes

right yeah so he was arrested last year in december

and what happened this week was a status conference in front of a dc judge the first time he's been seen by a judge in dc

at all and we're into March here.

So you're correct.

This is not how the process is supposed to work.

So tell me how it's supposed to work.

You are arrested, and then you have a certain number of days before you have to be charged or released, right?

Yes, in a general sense, that's right.

Okay.

And then you have to be able to see a judge.

Right.

Oh, absolutely.

So there are a bunch of procedural steps that the government has to follow, right?

So let me say that I'm a lawyer also.

I've been a criminal defense lawyer in this courthouse in D.C.

for 25 years.

So

Maryland and Virginia also.

But

the way it's supposed to work is if the federal government arrests you, they have to take you without unnecessary delay to appear in front of a judge.

That's because the Constitution requires that.

It's also in the rules of the court.

But it's primarily a constitutional function because the point is we don't put people in jail and then forget about them.

Correct.

At least we're not supposed to.

So now that happened in this defendant's case.

His last name is Denny.

Mr.

Denny was taken promptly the same day that he was arrested.

He was processed by the marshals and he was taken the next day to appear in front of a federal magistrate in Texas where he lived.

Okay.

So far so good.

All right.

Right.

And then the magistrate there set a hearing for three days later, which is within the normal rules because, you know,

the guy shows shows up, the judge determines, all right, you are who the government wants to arrest.

We're not holding you illegally so far.

And I'm going to set a detention hearing and a removal hearing.

Now, the detention hearing is to determine whether or not Mr.

Denny should be let out at all pending his trial.

The removal hearing is to determine whether he should be shipped from Texas to D.C., where the trial is going to be because he's charged with offenses from the January 6th event.

So he's not going to get tried in Texas.

He's going to get tried here in D.C.

So, so far, so good.

They can hold him for those few days while the judge sorts it out.

He got assigned a public defender.

You know, that lawyer needs time to ascertain what's going on.

So three days, no problem.

So he's seen by the judge on December 17th for a hearing.

And the Texas magistrate, who's a federal officer, judicial officer, finds that he's going to detain Mr.

Denny.

And he's going to approve the government's request to transfer him from Texas to D.C.

for his trial.

But in addition to that, the rules of the court require that Mr.

Benny have a preliminary hearing.

The purpose of that is to determine that there's at least probable cause for the charges that the government has charged him with.

And that hearing has to take place within 14 days of the first day that a judge saw you.

But that can change if you are been moved from another state.

That can you can add another like 10 days or something.

No.

No?

No, it's not supposed to.

That's the point.

There's two problems with his case.

One of them has been overtaken by events, but the other, the Speedy Trial Act problem that you're talking about,

there's still a live problem there.

So for the preliminary hearing, which is the judge takes a quick look, there has to be testimony.

There has to be evidence.

The judge says, yeah, there's probable cause that you committed a crime, so we're going to put you on trial.

That's only good for 14 days because in addition to that preliminary hearing, the federal government, it's different in the states, it's different everywhere in the the states, but the federal government has to indict you, which means a grand jury, you know, group of citizens, a group of citizens, not the judge, has to decide that there's probable cause that you committed an offense to charge you with and put you on trial.

And that, according to the rule, must happen within 30 days.

And in fact, that's not a rule.

That's a statute passed by the Congress, the Speedy Trial Act.

So you have two speedy trial rights.

One is in the Constitution.

The other is in a statute, a federal statute.

And it's binding, of course, on all the federal judges.

And it says you must be indicted within 30 days of your arrest.

If you are not indicted within 30 days of your arrest, then the indictment must be dismissed or actually it would be the complaint.

So there's different ways that the federal government can charge you with a crime.

An indictment is issued by the grand jury.

A complaint is just a sworn affidavit by a law enforcement officer, and a judge issues a warrant on it.

So that's what happened to Mr.

Denny.

They issued a complaint, a warrant issued from the judge, and he was arrested.

Okay?

But he still has to be indicted.

You have a right to be indicted.

And I know that seems strange to people.

You have a right to be indicted.

But

it's a protection that the founding fathers put in so that it's not just government officers saying there's probable cause that you committed a crime.

Correct.

Your community, the constituency of the citizenry, agrees that there's probable cause.

So that did not happen.

Instead, what happened was the judge in Texas,

for reasons that are unclear, believed that he could transfer Mr.

Denny from Texas to D.C.

for the preliminary hearing.

That alone was wrong.

The rule required the judge in Texas to hold the preliminary hearing, and for good reason, because

you would think it wouldn't take that long to ship someone from Texas to Washington, but in the criminal system, you'd be wrong about that.

So it took them 46 days to send him from Texas to DC.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

So what you're talking about, the 10-day rule, is the federal statute says, yes, you have to be indicted within 30 days, but we're going to add 10 days.

10 days is reasonable to add if you have to go from one district to another.

So effectively that makes it 40 days.

But, you know, they blew by that here too, because

mister Denny was indicted on the 84th day, 8-4,

84th day after he was arrested.

So even allowing the government 10 days to transport him would have been 40 days, but they more than doubled that before they indicted him.

So, Leslie, I just want to make it clear

from just the charges,

if he did these things,

he's not a guy that I want out on the streets

and probably deserves things, but we must stay by the Constitution.

So I'm not necessarily fighting for him because I don't know if he's guilty or innocent,

but the charges look pretty bad.

But

I, in a case like this, at least, you know, in old episodes of Matlock and Murder, she wrote,

if you weren't read your Miranda rights,

the judge was always like, I'm sorry, you got to let him go.

Doesn't that apply here?

Those are two different things.

No, I know that, but I mean,

aren't these violations of these rules, don't they at all?

I mean, the people who should be punished so they don't do it again is the justice system, not him.

He shouldn't have to just sit here and squander, you know, in jail and nobody's doing anything.

Why isn't this a violation that is so egregious that they would say, you know what, justice system?

You're out of control.

You need to fix this.

Don't ever let this happen again.

He's dismissed.

Well, that may happen.

So the magistrate judge here in D.C., who held a hearing this week, made some of those same observations.

He said he apologized to Mr.

Denning that you don't often get an apology from a federal judge, from the bench, okay?

Yeah.

And he apologized to him and said, you were lost to the system.

This is not supposed to happen.

This is a violation of your rights.

The judge said he was at a loss, that really it's a clear violation of Mr.

Denning's right to have a a preliminary hearing, but the judge couldn't do anything about that because when the government indicted him, which they did on the morning of the hearing,

when they did that, that unfortunately mooted out the problem that he was denied a preliminary hearing.

Oh my gosh.

I know, I know.

But it doesn't solve the problem that under the Speedy Trial Act, they had to indict him within 30 days.

And you can't fix the fact that you didn't indict in 30 days by indicting him on day 84.

It does not work that way.

Leslie, how many people involved in this January 6th thing have just been lost?

How many, I mean,

we can't get any answers on anything.

I've never seen anything like this.

Well, the system is very

convoluted, right, and opaque.

It is complicated even for practitioners who understand how it's supposed to work.

I think that Mr.

Denny's case is the only one that is this bad in terms of the speedy trial act problem.

There are lots and lots of other problems, procedural problems with these cases and the way the government is handling them.

But you're not wrong that there something should be done about this.

And I was

I was not impressed, as you could probably tell from my article, that the federal judges here were not more urgent in their application of the something, some resolution of this problem.

Now, the magistrate judge is correct that was, he kind of had his hands tied by two things.

One, the government got the indictment.

Two, the chief judge had issued an order that required the magistrate to write a report and make a recommendation to her so she could act on the defense motion to dismiss the case.

So the magistrate judge is, you know, he's a lower judge.

He has to follow her order.

So what he did was he ordered the government to brief the issue about the Speedy Trial Act violation

and also,

you know, for Mr.

Denny's lawyer to respond to the briefing.

And he said a hearing for later on in the month.

Now,

you know, at that point,

you mean, you're just so far out of time with the Speedy Trial Act that he's just sitting in jail for more days that are not valid.

I think it's illegal, his current detention.

But there will be a hearing, but

because the government got the indictment,

the case has now been transferred to a regular judge, Judge Moss,

instead of the magistrate handling the case.

So it's a little unclear whether the report from the magistrate will now go to the chief judge or whether it will go to Judge Moss.

Probably Judge Moss.

I want to we'll follow up with you on this, Leslie, but I would like to, if you don't, if you have time, to hold for just a couple of minutes, I've got to take a quick break.

And I want to come back and ask you about what James Colmy said in

an op-ed piece earlier this week, that they've got to make an example out of these people.

That doesn't seem like blind justice to me, but I don't know.

I'd love to get your opinion on that.

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This is the Glenn Back program.

We're with Leslie Mikadoo Gordon.

And Leslie, I want to be really careful because I know you're currently representing Carter Page in his lawsuit in D.C.

federal court against the FBI and James Comey and Andy McCabe and everybody else.

So if you can't answer this, you know, that's fine.

But I don't know if you read what Jim Comey said in the Washington Post,

but he said

this investigation is mostly about something that you may not want to think about as an FBI agent.

It's about sending a message, a shockwave of deterrence, so future Americans, whether led by a lying demigod or rightly concerned about the loss of their rights, never again assault the institutions of government.

That means even those who merely trespass by following the crowd inside must be held accountable, even if only guilty of a misdemeanor.

That's fine, I think, if that means you go through the system and you pay the fine for a misdemeanor, but not you're not locked up for months and months.

If you hit a police officer, okay, you're going to go to jail and whatever the judge, but can he say this?

Can he

go after

as general deterrence

well the concept of general deterrence you know is one that the courts have long said is a function of the criminal justice system and you're right that because I represent Carter Page and Mr.

Comey is a defendant in that lawsuit I can't comment on him directly but what I will say is we need to be applying the rules of law the same across the entire program.

What your punishment is should not depend on what your views are.

It should depend on what the law permits and doesn't permit and what is consistent with what has been punished in the past.

And we are not doing that in these cases.

So I wrote an article about this in Red State back in June.

These same kinds of conduct, or let's take Mr.

Comey's example, the mere trespassers.

The people who did the very same exact kind of conduct during Fred Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing were not prosecuted in the federal court.

They were prosecuted in the local court.

They were given

effectively a citation,

special procedure in D.C.

Correct.

They had to pay a low, yes, they paid a low amount of money.

They didn't have to hire lawyers.

They didn't have to appear in front of a judge.

They paid their money and walked away.

And that is not what we're doing with these cases.

Leslie, thank you very much.

We'll see you tomorrow.

God bless.

This is the Glenn Back Program.