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one of those days where we're going to try to figure out what's going on together.

Some things really bother me, don't seem right.

Let me just start with what happened at 5.50 a.m.

Thursday morning Russia time.

Putin was wearing the same suit and the same red tie that he wore on Monday as he took to the airwaves and warned President Biden and NATO not to intervene in Ukraine.

He said his plans,

interesting choice of words, were to denazify Ukraine.

He continued to stick to his factually inaccurate version of Ukraine's history, saying essentially that Ukraine was always part of Russia.

His attempts here in the last few days to rewrite history at his convenience

seemed to me to be something that we talked about on yesterday's program.

A very calculated plan

in his own home country of working towards capital T traditionalism.

If we have time, we'll get into that again today.

If you don't know what it is, listen to yesterday's podcast.

We went deep into it.

He was misleading everybody,

you know, saying that he's not going to do any of these things.

Within hours of the speech, the Interior Ministry of Ukraine said that there had been hundreds of casualties.

CNN reported, despite Russia insisting early that they were only attacking military installations and were voting populated areas,

that's not true.

President Biden responded to Putin's attack last night, saying the prayers of the entire world are with the people of Ukraine as they suffer an unprovoked and unjustified attack by Russian military forces.

This is real trouble, and there's some things that just don't make sense.

I'm going to give you just a couple of more pieces of the news, and then we're going to start talking to some experts today on what they think this means.

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Oil is up to almost $100 a barrel.

Your

stock markets all around the world are going through the floor.

There's no place worse than in Russia.

Russia, their stock market was cut in half.

And you have to ask yourself,

how is he going to benefit from this?

What is the real game?

We'll get to that here in just a little while.

Meanwhile, most Americans want nothing to do with it.

Most Americans are saying we're not going in for Ukraine.

I don't think we should either,

but we should support Ukraine.

And we should also call out the devil that Putin is.

I'm tired of people making excuses for Putin.

What he is saying is not true.

Let's not be Neville Chamberlain.

However, that doesn't mean we go and fight it.

It means we just call a spade a spade.

Ukraine is absolutely corrupt.

We know, just if you paid attention to any of our specials on Ukraine with the Biden people and his son and everybody else that was in Ukraine.

We have,

under the guiding hand of Barack Obama, we have meddled in Ukraine and just

it's it's horrible, horrible corruption, what we have been involved in in Ukraine.

We shouldn't have been there in the first place.

We should mind our own business on that.

That's not an isolationist thing.

That's a let's get out of everybody else's business, please, especially when that business is corrupt.

They are corrupt, but they are a democratic society, and they do not want to go back to Russia.

Anyone who says that, I just would remind you, look up the word holodomor.

They know what happens when Russia comes into their place,

and they are not interested in going back.

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I want to bring in Jason Buttrell, who is with us now.

Hi, Jason.

Hi, Glenn.

You and I have been talking about this for a long time.

We have spent a year on Ukraine,

and this takes both of us by surprise.

I have to hand it to the intelligence community, although I don't feel comfortable.

Something's not right here.

But the intelligence community and the Biden administration said this is what he was going to do, and he's done it.

Yeah, I agree.

It's really crazy because when you study geopolitics, you learn to analyze and look at these things from that lens.

You're taught that geopolitics is a study of maps.

It's demographics, it's numbers,

it's interests, hardline interests.

And when someone starts acting, you know, emotionally like Putin has been doing over the past really year plus, you learn to kind of put that away and say, okay, well, he's obviously after something else, which I still think there's something else, you know, involved, just like you said.

So when the Biden administration was kind of saying, you know, no, this is happening, full-scale invasion, all that, I didn't believe it was happening.

I didn't.

I was looking for something behind what was going on.

And because of this all seems so irrational.

But I think the intelligence community was spot on.

I've seen reports that it actually, you know, the intelligence community coming out and saying that false flag attacks would happen, that would be the preempt to them doing a full-on invasion.

I wasn't buying it.

They were exactly right.

And the reports say that it actually delayed Putin's invasion by possibly even a week,

like they wanted to do this last week and not this week.

So the intelligence community and the Biden administration were exactly right on this.

Now, there's ways to criticize other things, which we can get to later of what they've done.

But just a quick recap.

The media started reporting last night that the invasion was going to commence around 4 a.m.

Kiev time.

And pretty much that was spot on.

It happened around 4.10, 4.15 Kiev time.

And it's very, very conventional from what I've been noticing.

I've been following this all night.

This is not like Crimea in 2014 with unconventional warfare.

This is a very conventional invasion.

What we saw commencing around 4 a.m.

Kiev time was airstrikes to target command and control systems.

That went as far as Kiev.

And it's a three-pronged attack coming from Belarus, coming from Crimea in the south and coming from mainland Russia in the east.

Now we do not know how far they plan to push this, but it is a conventional invasion.

It looks as if they will probably go further than just eastern Ukraine.

Question now is how far they will go and how far tensions tensions will rise, especially with NATO gathering troops all along the border of Ukraine.

Okay, so let's.

It looks as though he

was using conventional warfare to cut off the troops as they were kind of gathered at the borders of

the two districts that President Putin said he was going to take.

They went behind those lines and kind of cut them off so they can't fall back to

defend Kyiv, correct?

Yes, that's correct, because they know that Ukraine's strategy here is they know they're going to get overwhelmed.

So their strategy is their mainline forces in the east,

guarding those two territories, as you said.

Their strategy is to do a tactical retreat back into the urban areas within Ukraine.

Then it turns into both a hybrid guerrilla warfare and heavy urban warfare in the large Ukrainian cities.

That is very, very bloody.

That is very, very dangerous for the Russian military as well as civilians, which Russia does not want to kill too many Ukrainian civilians because that is going to be very, very unpopular in mainland Russia.

But Ukraine's strategy here, as I said, is to get into the cities and turn this into an urban conflict and draw it out for as long as possible.

Russia wants to stop that.

And that explains why they dropped in behind the troops there.

Can they take the whole country just by air and cutting it all off?

They absolutely can take the whole country in the short term.

It depends on how effective their air assets are, and that's what we're seeing right now.

We're seeing the bomb

from the air.

We're seeing cruise missile strikes.

So cutting off command and control all over the country and crippling Ukraine so they can eventually roll into the capital.

That will happen, is my guess, unless somebody else intervenes, which I kind of highly doubt.

But

a short-term victory is really all Russia can hope for here.

And that's another puzzling thing because I can't imagine they think they win in the long term.

In the long term, it's going to be too damaging financially and politically for Russia.

So it's catastrophic in the short term.

In the long term, I don't see how they win this unless there's some other grander strategy that we just don't know about, which could even be scarier, actually.

Yeah, I think so.

I think so, too.

All right, let me take one minute break and then we'll come back and discuss this some more because some things just don't add up.

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So

we have some

puzzling things.

First of all, Putin said he wants to denazify

Ukraine.

Do you have any idea what that's about?

Same rhetoric he's been using since 2014.

And that's directed more at the people of Russia, not anybody else in the world or Ukraine.

But he's been using that World War II sentiment to get public support to do what he's now doing.

But that's going to continue, and no doubt he's going to provide some air quote evidence

that they're taking out some Nazi.

But he's drawing on World War II nationalism.

He said that there has been an ongoing genocide in Ukraine that he's trying to stop.

I mean, Luke.

This is crazy.

And that's what makes it so hard

for me when I was looking at this before to really think that he was going to go through with this.

But Putin's not a crazy guy.

I mean, he may be now,

but in the past, he's not been.

He's been very cold, calculating.

Geopolitics and interests was always forefront in his mind.

He's not a psychopath.

I mean, well, he might be, but

he's not somebody driven by rage.

He is cold and calculating.

And when he, I mean, he's out and out evil.

He is a bloodthirsty killer who has spent a lifetime killing people.

But he's logical in it.

He's very calculated in it.

And the rhetoric, I mean, I think the

Nazi stuff, the religious stuff, that's all, that's

Dugan kind of language.

Yeah, and

it's a very, very powerful weapon for Russians because

they're very much willing to suffer and to...

to basically take it on the chin if they have to, if that means that their country, you know, will eventually reign supreme.

It's interesting.

If you take a tour of the Kremlin and Red Square in Russia, which I've done a couple of times, you'll be very surprised to see that in a Soviet, the former Soviet Union, the capital,

in the Red Square, it's probably like 80% churches.

There's multiple churches.

They weren't religious during the Soviet Union, but historically, during the Russian Empire, they were very religious.

Orthodoxy is very, very pivotal to Russian nationalism.

And even the Soviets would turn that that up when they needed to.

But that's exactly what Putin has done in the vein of Alexander Dugan, especially in that speech that he gave last week.

That was very, very telling to a lot of us that have been looking at this, people like you and me, Glenn,

that, okay,

now we know exactly what he's doing.

He's turning up that dial of nationalism to justify doing

what he's doing and possibly even more, which is scary.

Would you agree with me, And I'd like you to explore this a bit.

There is no real obvious win for Putin.

His stock market has crashed.

This is going to be horrible.

They are in the oil business.

They just made a deal with China, but that's years down the road.

They're going to shut down all of the oil exports into any Western country because of this.

So his oil is going to crash, which funds his government and his country.

The stock market is down.

Business is going to be cut off.

It's already a shambles in Russia.

What does he have to gain here?

Can you think of anything that he has to gain?

I've always thought from the beginning of this, especially when I didn't think that invasion was happening, I thought that what he was really doing was playing a game.

to divide and conquer NATO.

That's what I thought.

And I still think that's a major part of his plan.

Taking Ukraine is also very, very important strategically for Russia to get strategic depth.

It's always been their plan was to, you know, have some buffer so they

can be the capital of Moscow.

Yeah, but also the warm water port.

Exactly.

Yeah.

When he's talking about

the heart of Russia, that's true, but I don't really think that really guides him.

I think that's just an excuse he uses to

get support from home.

But I think that it's very irritating.

I think that we're talking about Putin is not a psychopath.

I think he is very spiteful.

I think that the Russian election interference, which I don't think did anything, I don't want to say that it did, but their election interference, I think, was a direct response to Hillary Clinton and what they did to his election.

I think that

a lot of what we're doing now, I think, was a direct response to how the Obama administration and all his foreign policy elite handled 2014 Ukrainian revolution.

I think he responds to these people directly in kind.

That's also a reason why he was willing, I think, to back off of this when Trump was there, because he knew that that was not how they operated and they weren't the ones directly responsible for what happened.

And I also think that it's ridiculous that NATO

wouldn't respond, wouldn't say, hey, look, we're not going to admit Ukraine into

NATO.

Why couldn't they say that?

NATO was irrelevant.

And the irony of this is now that Putin responding to that is making NATO relevant again.

So I think that eventually his goal is to play the long game.

Eventually, there's going to be NATO countries like Germany's not going to want to attack.

They're not going to want to send troops.

No.

That's going to cause a divide in NATO.

That's going to cause a divide between the UK and France.

They're not going to want to attack either.

And eventually, this will play out to where NATO will do exactly what he said was what he wanted.

He wanted NATO to do a withdrawal.

That benefits China and everybody else that's on Russia's side.

So

his ultimate goal is the long game, divide NATO, possibly possibly even the end of NATO, and to get strategic depth with Ukraine.

Okay, thank you very much, Jason.

I appreciate it.

I'm going to give you another perspective when we come back

because I just don't think.

I mean, I agreed with he's trying to break up NATO, but not anymore.

This is costing him too high of a price at home.

What could he be angling for?

I'll throw a couple of ideas your way.

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So, Vladimir Putin has invaded into Ukraine and not just those two territories.

He's going, it seems, all the way to Kyiv

and he is taking out the military.

He's talking about a denazification

of Ukraine.

His game here is extraordinarily risky for him.

Imagine if the United States was told, none of your cars,

none of your technology, and the world's not going to buy any more of your wheat and corn.

That would be a very bad thing quickly in the United States.

Last night, their stock market fell 50%.

Russia is already in shambles, and the oil is being turned off, the sales of Russian oil being turned off now by the West.

This is going to be a very high price.

I can't.

I mean, if he thinks he's going to win quickly, maybe, but it's a very big risk.

I wanted to bring the guest we had on yesterday that was talking about the war for eternity

and

Alexander Dugan, somebody we've talked about on this program before, a very, very, very evil guy in Russia that Putin has listened to in the past, helped put his Crimean strategy together, and he's using the same kind of language today.

Welcome back, Ben.

How are you?

It's great to be with you, Glenn.

So thanks for joining on such short notice.

The denazification

of Ukraine, and he's talking about there's a genocide that's been going on in Ukraine.

What do you think that's about?

Does that fit the pattern of the fourth political theory at all?

Well, it's Putin's way of framing himself as

not being on those extremes, on those political extremes.

In the eastern part of the country,

when Russia moved in, when we had the breakaway regions, when we had the chaos in 2014,

you did get this kind of vacuum, this political power vacuum, and there were a few battalions of

extremists identifying as nazis or national socialists or white you know white nationalists or something very few of them but they they did exist and they were typically most of them fighting on the side of of uh ukraine against russia which they saw as an imperialist force um it's it's the sort of thing though that for for quite some time russia which has been the expansionist authoritarian force in that region, has used as a justification, a sort of rhetorical justification.

And it's important, of course, to Russian contemporary identity to recall the fact that it was one of the partners that defeated Hitler in World War II, and therefore it's an anti-fascist cause in the world.

And that's being instrumentalized here, but it's, I mean, Zelensky's Jewish, isn't he?

It's a

yeah.

But I think he's Jewish, but I didn't he reject his Judaism.

Yes, yes, but ethnically, right?

I know that he's not a practicing Jew.

Right, okay.

That's not to say there's a lot of anti-Semitism in Ukraine and whatnot, but

he's not a Nazi.

And

despite all the very many problems that there are in Ukraine in terms of corruption, to say that he's going into denazify the country is really a ploy.

So

may I just go out on the deep end here and see if you can throw me a life preserver?

Because I can't figure out

if I'm Putin, I'm very calculated, I'm a bloodthirsty, you know, cold-blooded killer,

and I know what I want, but I'm not stupid.

He's not a stupid guy by any stretch of the imagination.

There is such a high price to pay for this

that I'm wondering his motivation.

And this is where I jump into the deep end of the pool.

Do you think, because I can't figure his motivation out other than the typical, I want a warm water port and, you know,

I want to be able to grab Ukraine for national pride, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But is it possible that this is just part of a plan of chaos, seeing that the West is so weak right now, especially the United States, that he thinks that he can destabilize the West enough with these moves that possibly the enemies of the West and the enemies of America could kick our legs out.

Potentially.

So early on we were talking about this

political operative slash philosopher Alexander Dugan.

One of the things that he's been doing in Europe for years, for decades now, has been trying to make

the

populist nationalist parties in Europe pro-Russian.

It's an easier lift in some places than elsewhere.

But the reason why that was an official Russian foreign policy was that he believed that isolated, siloed

European states would be to the benefit of Russia.

If you didn't see a united West,

the Atlantic, and then Europe as acting as a coherent whole, that that,

and it's not hard to understand that, that would make for a weaker opponent.

And

you can see the same principle playing out here.

I don't think, there are very few people, I'm not an expert, of course,

on military strategy, but it doesn't seem like Putin has any plans or perhaps even the ability to destroy and occupy and rebuild Ukraine.

I think we're probably looking at some sort of partition followed by

threats in a puppet government,

but an incredibly unstable situation there.

And that insecurity, that instability is to the benefit of Russia,

rather than strong, whole, united actors that can coordinate with one another.

So that's what he's going for.

Yes, he appears, he's very smart.

I think it's worth noting.

as well, though, that his actions are available to him because he's not running the world at this point.

He's an antagonist, a rabble-rouser,

and this is, it's almost like comparing parents to their teenage children or something.

It's very easy to antagonize and disturb and destruct because you are not in power.

That doesn't make it not serious, but sometimes I feel we give him too much credit.

There is a weird line that makes me very uncomfortable of people who are cheering on, seemingly cheering on Putin.

And while I don't want to go to war with Putin,

I certainly don't cheer him on on this.

He is clearly the aggressor.

And the reason why I worry about this is because I think there are people who think we're going to go to war and they're like,

we shouldn't go to war on this.

But the way they cheer on Putin makes me nervous because of what you talked about in Europe.

It is here too, this influence of Dugan, but most people don't know it.

Right, right.

And again, we were talking yesterday about some of the ideas, some of the ideology and values that Putin says are animating his actions.

They can sound appealing to

I think to conservatives, to Western, to modern conservatives.

There are people who think that he is championing Christian nationalism, that he's going to unite the Christian world.

And

it's key to remember his conservatism,

his Christianity, all those things came about after he was on a sort of merry-go-round of ideologies and profiles and identities, and he settled on that one.

in part because there were enough people in the Russian state apparatus who were thinking that way, and Dugan has a role to play in that.

Also, because you needed some sort of ideological gel to fill the void left by communism.

It couldn't just be a cult of personality.

It couldn't just be Putin himself.

So,

you know, quote-unquote conservatism and Christian nationalism came in to fill that void.

It also became a useful tool when reaching out to Europe because he could connect with these parties that wanted a divided, internally siloed Europe.

But I think...

Okay, so hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on just a second.

This is where I I think it gets really complex and confusing because there are people who want out of the European Union because they feel like they're losing their identity.

You know, when you can't fly the Swedish flag at home, you know, you got to fly the European Union flag.

I don't know.

That would bother me as a Swede.

It would bother me in England if I had to bow to some body of people I never elected,

and they're telling me that my country is not good.

That's different than the white nationalist separatist,

but they're getting confused.

Absolutely.

That's what makes this tough.

I mean, the EU is a grossly anti-democratic institution, in my mind.

Lots of problems with it.

The hostility for local identity and national identity is a huge problem.

But

it's almost as if that natural critique, that natural criticism is just waiting there for someone to take an exploit and instead create a continent and a territory where no one can cooperate with one another.

And any force that is opposed to integration or coordination is going to be celebrated.

That's the problem.

That's why this anti-EU critique is important

for these actors like Putin.

Ben,

you're a professor.

You study this.

You do this for a living.

I'm

a DJ.

I was a DJ most of my life.

I mean,

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

And even I can figure this out.

Why is it that you can't seem to get any politician on any side in any country that can separate those people

from the real Nazis to the people who are just really, for instance, really good Americans or really good Canadians that just want an end of some of this nonsense.

How come no one can bridge that gap or see this?

It's hard in our media climate.

It's a real, A, I don't agree with your first assessment.

That's very nice to be to be humble, Glenn, but I think you're definitely a smart guy.

And it's to your credit that you are interested in examining nuances.

The world,

some things are simple.

There are either or questions in the world, but

a lot of issues and a lot of topics are very complex, and it takes time, it takes curiosity, it takes motivation, and I'm afraid that those resources are in short order.

Benjamin, thank you so much.

I really appreciate it, and thank you for just grabbing

the phone here.

I appreciate it.

Benjamin Teitelbaum, he is the author of the book War for Eternity.

It is a really important book, and it does go into American politics, but it is something that every single person, especially on the right, should read.

We'll get into that more probably next week.

It is very important that you understand what's going on.

There's a reason why people are being called Nazis,

and there are these influences, and that's not Nazi, it's a Russian influence that's happening all over the West, mainly in Europe, but also here.

All right, back in just a minute.

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Stu Bergeer is joining me from his house today in the ice storm.

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Thanks, Glenn.

I think people generally understand that, you know, look, Vladimir Putin's bad.

This is bad news for Ukraine.

But what does this mean for us here in America?

How do we prepare?

Are there any steps we can take now?

So, yeah, so I think there's several things that we can do, and I'll talk about those coming up in a little while.

But I think the first thing that needs to do is know that the seasons have changed.

We're in a different season now.

And we, and as crazy as this might sound to some people, get down on your knees and pray.

Pray for acceptance of God's will, for the protection of the innocent people whose lives are in danger here and abroad in Ukraine, for supernatural wisdom to fall on the White House,

for God to work the hearts and minds of the leaders all over,

and pray for our country.

We have to pray, but we also have to look at this and say, this is,

we are constantly dividing ourselves.

This is not an I told you so moment.

That will come, but it's not right now.

It would be so much easier if it was.

This is a moment for us to pray

for help because we're in a very dicey situation.

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I was actually, I mean, should I,

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Pragmatically, for the average person, What are you supposed to be doing?

I'm going to talk about it hopefully next hour, but before the end of the program,

it is important that everything we told you to do to prepare, you have done or are doing right now.

More in a second.

Bill O'Reilly is also coming up with what he thinks, and Michael Malice is joining us as well.

They should be two very different opinions on what all of this means.

We'll give that next, And then in hour number three, we will talk about what do you do?

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Last night, Vladimir Putin started taking out all of the infrastructure and the military defenses of Ukraine.

He said it's the denazification of Ukraine.

He again says he has no intent on occupying it, but he has cut off the forces so they cannot retreat to Kyiv.

This is bad for Russia, especially if it becomes a bloodbath.

The president still hasn't spoken out on it.

We're waiting for him and what the consequences are going to be from the United States and Europe.

This could be a very bad development.

Bill O'Reilly is joining us now.

Hello, Bill.

Yeah, Biden's going to talk at 12.30 Eastern.

That means he'll show up about 1.30.

Yes.

The undisciplined White House.

He's always late.

So they're writing up the speech now.

He doesn't write the speeches.

He doesn't even edit them, interestingly enough.

And they're writing it up, and he'll go over it two or three times, and then he'll go out, you know, I figure about 1.30, 1.20.

And what he'll say is that they're going to, you know, up the sanctions more, and no one will understand exactly what that is, unless you're a microeconomist.

But what he has to do now, and there's no

two sides to this story, it's got to break Russia economically.

He's got to break them.

And this is the time to do it.

So I was wrong about Putin, and you know how thrilled I am to admit I'm wrong, Beck.

Yeah, I know, I know.

I know.

I was wrong because I thought Putin was a rational man, rational leader.

He is not.

That changes the equation.

Wait, wait, hang on, hang on, hang on.

Bill.

Bill, is there a chance?

Because he has always

appeared to be a ruthless killer, but also a rational, ruthless killer.

I cannot find any rhyme or reason.

So maybe we're looking for the wrong reasons for him.

Well, look, it doesn't matter what the reasons are.

Well, it does.

He's violating international law.

He's trying to destroy the world order and build up a new world order.

Correct.

So hang on.

Let's look at that for a second.

If you know they're going to put sanctions on you, a normal person would say, well, we're not going to be able to handle that.

But you know, and I know, Bill, something that most people don't know.

I think it was four or five years ago, Putin met with the Western press and said, World War III is already here.

It's already being fought.

Your leaders just don't know it.

And it will be fought with ones and zeros.

If he is indeed looking for a new world order, this allows him to fight back and cripple financial markets, cripple, do what we're doing to him, but fight with ones and zeros.

Okay, but it's a different situation, Beck.

Yes, he's going to hurt and has hurt worldwide financial markets.

And the Dow is down about 700 points, 800 points today, and oil is up over $100 a barrel.

That's temporary for us, but for him, it isn't temporary.

So, the only thing you can do with an irrational leader, and one of the reasons I made the mistake in my analysis that said Putin wouldn't bring military invasion to Ukraine, was that when I talked to Trump, Trump thought he was rational.

Trump thought that there were lines that Putin wouldn't cross because he didn't cross them with Trump.

Okay.

Now we know that Putin is not rational.

So when you have a dangerous person with power in that area, and Saddam Hussein was one, Adolf Hitler was one, Joseph Stalin was one, and history is littered with them.

You have to break them early.

And history has shown that.

And the United States and Europe in a combination can break the Russian economy, which would lead to a coup against Putin.

So the people would rise up, the military would turn on Putin.

I don't think anybody's real thrilled about this invasion of Ukraine within Russia because it doesn't do Russia any good.

It doesn't do them any good.

They're basically having trouble feeding their people now, and that's China's problem, too.

So they have trouble providing a decent standard of living for their own people.

And this is going to hurt them even more.

So you've got to crush it.

Putin is not suicidal.

He knows.

If

his.

But

Bill, I just, I'm telling you, if we would have just said the Ayatollah Khomeini is irrational and a crazy man and left it at that, or Osama bin Laden, we wouldn't understand who we're dealing with.

It seems irrational to us, but that's because we don't view it from their point of view.

I think Putin

does does matter.

No, it doesn't matter at all.

His point of view doesn't matter because he's already demonstrated that he's going to start a war.

So what the deuce does his point of view matter?

Now we have to take what is he trying to

what is he trying to accomplish?

What is his real goal?

Okay, so his real stated goal is to reimpose the power of the Soviet Union.

That's his stated.

The empire, yeah.

Right.

But I think he's a loon.

I think he's a sociopathic, megalomaniacal loon.

He's all of those things except for the last one.

So then

if that's who he is, that he wants to blow up the world,

Okay, then you have to stop him from blowing up the world.

And the only way to do it is to break the Russian economy so the Russian people themselves take care of him.

All right.

So there is this weird thing going on, Bill, where

people are saying, you know, either we've got to go in and put boots on the ground and go to war, or they're saying

we love Putin and, you know, we caused a lot of these problems, which some of that is true, but not this.

You know, I think we need to recognize that Putin is a very bad guy.

This is a very bad thing, violation of international law, and we need to be part of the solution.

But that doesn't mean go to war with Russia.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, I mean, look, you're not going to get into a shooting war with Russia unless Russia invades a NATO country.

So if that happens, then you have to uphold the treaty and defend militarily.

But it won't be the kind of war that it was waged in Vietnam and Korea,

even to some extent in Iraq.

This will be a high-tech situation.

And Russia, again,

has tremendous weapons.

They can inflict an amazing amount of damage on the world.

Now, will this guy, Putin, bring it to that?

I can't predict.

But the fact that he did this is that you don't give him the opportunity.

So if you inflict massive economic pain on Russia now,

this is the only way to stop this man.

So if Biden comes out and is a mealy-mouth bumbling guy at 12.30 in his conference today, and we're in serious trouble, I do not expect that.

I expect that he will tell the world that there's going to be no more commerce with Russia.

None.

Okay?

Everything stops.

I would say no Russian airplanes are going to be allowed to land in the United States or Europe.

I would absolutely say that because everybody can understand that.

And I would also say if China or anyone else helps Putin, we're going to slap economic sanctions on them.

Now, that's the tough guy approach we need.

Will Biden do it?

And if he doesn't do it, then we have a totally different discussion here.

Yeah, if he does.

If he doesn't do it, because

you're a historian, Bill.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is what it must have felt like in 1939 with Germany.

But it was a different situation then

because the Allies

then in

the late 1930s when Hitler was running roughshot weren't prepared for war.

We are.

Trump rebuilt our military.

Okay?

And we are a ferocious military machine, and so is NATO.

I mean, Ramstein Air Air Force Base, if it were me, if I were president, I'd be moving heavy bombers in there now,

just as a force, show of force.

Okay?

You've got to send the message to China and the rest of the world.

We will not tolerate a breakdown in world order caused by a gangster.

All right, that's what Putin is.

He is a thug.

All right?

There is a lot of people.

Go ahead.

Do you think anyone in our Pentagon, anyone in the White House, really would know how to position without getting us into a war, know how to position this or fight this?

I mean,

there was one of the national security advisors for Obama last night and said, I don't trust any of these people in the White House, and I know them.

I don't think they're prepared to do this.

I don't deal in that paranoia world.

I don't deal in the world of pungentry that says, oh, let it go.

It's not America's fault.

You want a worldwide depression?

You want everybody in America paying $10 for a gallon of gas and not

$30 for a hamburger?

Then you let these guys run wild because that's what will happen.

So there's this idiocy, and I'm starting to lose patience with it.

On television every night where Putin's not that bad a guy.

It's Biden's fault that this is happening.

It's not Biden's fault this is happening.

Did Biden make it easier?

Absolutely.

Did everyone on the planet know he was going to be a weak president?

Well, if you didn't, you're a blanket moron.

All right?

But 80 million people voted for him.

That's on us.

Are we going to learn a lesson from that?

I hope so.

You put a weak guy in, you got the Civil War.

You put a weak guy in in 2020, you got Putin running wild.

Okay?

Are we getting the message?

No more weak guys, no more progressives, no more Green New Deals, no more,

or you're going to live a life of misery and your children are going to be in chaos.

Do we all get that now, please?

But you don't blame Biden for what Putin is doing.

That's stupid.

You rally behind the country, United States, and you say, we're breaking Russia economically.

We're sending a message to China right now.

You are not going to destroy world order because if you do that, every American gets hurt.

Do you see the linkage?

If you don't, you're a blanket moron.

I hate to be so stark, Beck, but it's time for this kind of talk in this country.

Americans made a tremendous mistake electing Joe Biden.

If you are still defending your vote, you're stupid.

Stupid.

If you are behind the progressive movement you're destructive I don't want you in my house okay it's over they failed Biden is a bad president unfortunately he's the only one we have and now we have to demand that he break Russia economically That's what has to happen if Americans want to go back to normal lives.

Period.

All right.

Bill O'Reilly,

I wish that you would be a little more clear on your feelings.

I want to talk to you about, I've never heard a president

at the point it was two days ago say, and this is going to cost the American people money.

There's going to be hardships here.

There are.

And I would like to talk to you a little bit about

what you think this is going to cost us

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ask you, first of all, have you ever heard, except in like World War II, a president say that

these things are going to cost the American people, I mean, financially?

I've not heard that from any other president.

And what he was talking about was gas prices and everything else, and it is going to cost us.

No doubt it is.

And this is

a

foolish,

ideologically driven policy of trying to strangle the fossil fuel industry in the name of climate change.

When you have and I don't know whether you noticed this or not, but last week, China and Russia made a deal for coal, where Russia is going to ship thousands of tons of coal to China, who's building five new coal plants for energy.

A week.

We're destroying our fossil fuel industry here, and they're doing that?

I mean, this is the kind of stupidity that's driven by

the corrupt media, Hollywood, all of the places where you hear it.

That's just incomprehensible.

It's incomprehensible.

I want a clean planet, but you don't destroy the infrastructure of your energy delivery system when people need to get to work and heat their homes because of some blank in theory.

Okay, while the other side of the world is polluting the hell out of the planet.

You don't do that.

That's stupid.

Again, I have to use that word.

Okay?

So now...

But it's true.

Again, 80 million Americans voted for this man, and he goes on and tell you, my stupidity

means you have to pay more money for fuel.

That's what he should say.

It's not all Americans have to sacrifice.

It's my stupidity is causing your bills to go up.

That's the truth, is it not, Beck?

It is.

Bill,

I have about 90 seconds left.

What should we watch for, good and bad, in the speech today?

If it's all gobbly-gook and you don't know if it's this bank and that bank, and this guy can't come to Finland or whatever, then you know it's B.S.

If he gets out there and he says no more dollar transactions with Russia, we're going to strangle their economy.

We're going to break them because we can't put up with this kind of stuff, then maybe we got something.

I have to tell you, if a member of the audience is not subscribed to billorilly.com, I would subscribe right now because

I have a feeling Bill's a little passionate on this.

And by the time he hits his program this afternoon and evening,

I have have a feeling he will be deadly on this topic.

Bill, thank you so much.

God bless you.

Okay, Beck, thanks for having me.

Thank you.

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Now we go to Michael Malice.

Interested to hear what he has to say on what we should be looking for and what all of this means.

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I think there's two things that we as Americans need to make very clear.

Vladimir Putin is an evil, bloodthirsty killer.

He is a totalitarian.

That does not mean the second point I'd like to make clear, that we should go to war.

Those can be separate and equal.

And

we need to support all we can, the people of Ukraine.

And I mean that as people.

Mercury One is working with Slovakia right now.

Slovakia is taking in refugees.

There are going to be people that are going to be running and escaping Ukraine, and we are looking into ways to help them.

We, as people, can help the people of Ukraine.

A guy who knows communism really inside and out is Michael Malis.

This lie that Putin is sharing that, you know, it's just a

Russian territory and, oh, they love Russia.

Let me use one word to remind the world, holodomor.

They don't love Russia.

Michael Malas is here with us now, the author of the Anarchist Handbook, and also,

dear leader, Michael, can you,

you escaped from a communist country, or your family did, right?

Yeah, I was born in Ukraine.

You were born in Ukraine.

We We're all from Ukraine.

Yeah, we were from Western Ukraine, Lvov specifically.

Wow.

So I didn't know it was Ukraine.

So you give us perspective on what's happening.

Well, I mean, I think the problem we have with, I'm going to take a little bit of a meta-approach, the problem we have with kind of the way our media is set up.

is you and I discussing a very dynamic situation.

We have very limited information.

The information we're given is often intentionally obfuscatory, certainly from Russia's perspective.

So we're kind of shooting off the hip, and people want to understand how should I look at this.

And anything you and I say is going to be a little bit should we take it with a grain of salt, just like anything we see in the media, generally speaking, but especially when it comes to a war situation where it's enormously advantageous for both sides to kind of keep their cards close to their chest.

I would disagree with you a slight bit.

I don't think Putin is a totalitarian.

Not every dictator is a totalitarian.

But that is a silly semantic point that really is neither here nor there.

What would you call him?

Wait, wait.

How would you classify him?

You could be a dictator without being a totalitarian.

He's not literally a Stalinist

or a Hitler figure.

I agree with you completely that when you're talking about missiles hitting cities, our concern should be with civilians

and making sure they're kept safe.

I mean, I think it's fair to say,

Glenn, this is the kind of thing that you and I and pretty much everyone listening to this

couldn't really expect to see in our lifetimes.

This is something, you know, war in Europe on this level is something that was regarded as relegated to history books.

So I think we're all a bit like, what do we do now?

But thankfully

kind of bone-chilling.

It's a firm hand of Joe Biden in the White House.

Yes.

Head of the foreign policy committee.

That's why Obama tapped him.

This is how smart Obama was.

He saw this coming, so he picked Joe Biden as his foreign policy expert VP.

Now he's in the White House.

So we can rest assured.

The Ukrainian people can rest assured Joe Biden has your back.

Tell me what it's like in Ukraine.

Well, I left when I was one and a half, but my parents...

Well, as a one and a half, so it was very big.

The rooms were very large.

No, they weren't, even when you were one and a half,

I assure you.

But my parents did not, you know, if they had any chance of me having a hopeful life there, I would have remained.

But again, this was the 70s.

This was the USSR.

It was a very different time.

Ukraine, don't say the Ukraine, which is a region.

Ukraine is a country.

Ukraine is.

you know, obviously much more liberalized.

But

the point you made earlier in the introduction, the level of animosity from Ukrainians to Russians, and to Russia specifically, I don't want to say Russians, excuse me, is really, really high to the point where if you speak Russian, or that is kind of a bit of a faux pas because there's such a memory of decades of oppression.

But on the other hand, Eastern Ukraine does have more affinity toward Russia than Western Ukraine, which has historically more aligned with Europe.

I mean, it's the reason why we say Kiev instead of Kiev, which we've always said, because Kiev is the way the Russians have pronounced it,

if I'm not mistaken, right?

Correct, that's correct, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

When he says he's going to denazify

the Ukraine or

Ukraine itself,

what does that mean to

people in Ukraine?

Oh, it meant that all those truckers somehow crossed the ocean and now they're in Ukraine.

They really kicked them out of Canada good.

I mean,

it's nothing.

It's nonsense.

It's complete double talk.

It was the same thing that East Germany said for years for their oppression, which is, oh, you know, we're getting rid of all the Nazis, which were kind of, they claimed was historically a specifically West German phenomenon.

How could that even be possible?

So when you're talking, when you're talking, here's the thing with Putin and just with the Russian approach.

It's kind of like saying things that are so audacious and

ridiculous on his face, so it's daring you to call their bluff.

So whatever he's saying, I mean, in any time of war, you only have to roll your eyes and be like, okay, this is nonsensical.

So, Michael, I know that you and I disagree on the size of government.

You say zero, I say, you know, some.

And we both disagree with going into Ukraine, I imagine,

and sending military and troops and getting involved in another war, et cetera, et cetera.

Can you explain how do you square the circle when it comes to

things like Hitler?

If we would have acted sooner

and acted with force before he went into Poland,

things might have been different.

You catch these guys early and don't give them any air to breathe.

How would you deal with this in your utopian world?

Well, I don't live in a utopian world.

You live in a utopian world because in your utopian world, you can go into someone who is duly elected like Hitler was, and you could overthrow the government and somehow that's not going to have negative consequences.

So the non-utopian world I live in recognizes that there are going to be extremely evil people like Hitler.

And in in order to do this, you have to make sure they are not given incentives and mechanisms to increase their power.

And the only way a Hitler can

become a Hitler is with the government.

Without a government, you're just going to have him be a homeless painter.

And so that's one thing.

I don't think anyone has or had a solution to Hitler.

I mean, Hitler happened.

So there was no good options on the table at the time, especially and most importantly, and this goes back to the person you and I hate the most in terms of America, Woodrow Wilson.

If the West hadn't been so exhausted as a result of the Great War, if they hadn't seen an entire generation lost for no reason, there would be far more appetite to take on a Hitler.

This is one of the reasons Neville Chamberlain

had his appeasement because he's like, we're not doing this again.

I can't, whatever the cost is, we're not paying it because we just paid the cost yesterday, effectively.

So in your non-utopian world, looking at our utopian world, how does a Michael Malice solve that?

Do you, if you don't want him to be a dictator, don't let him grow into things, don't give him access to things, do you cut off his access to the West?

Through Hitler?

No, no, like Putin.

What would you do if you were...

Go ahead.

I don't.

I am not.

We're talking.

There's a big difference between a political philosophy and theory, whether the founding fathers' vision of America, my vision of anarchism, or some kind of Bernie Sanders social democracy.

I don't know that any of those really matter when it comes to a situation of war that we're fighting today.

I'm not a military strategist.

I don't think I have any particular insight into geopolitics or we should sanction this region or let some route in through the Caspian Sea, or something like that.

I don't have any good answers for you, Blan.

I'm sorry.

I mean, I think that's one of the best answers I have heard from anybody.

Everybody's willing to spout off.

And of course, you know, those of us who are clearly right do.

Anyway,

Michael, thank you.

No, go ahead.

Just quickly, anyone who thinks that there is some kind of magic wand that's going to resolve a situation against

one of the largest countries in the world who's actually already shooting missiles into cities.

I think they're just being inaccurate.

Do you think that Vladimir Putin is...

Bill O'Reilly and I just had this argument.

He thinks he's crazy.

He thinks he's always been

rational, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but now he's crazy.

I don't think he's crazy.

I just don't think we understand what his goals are.

The whole point, the reason I wrote Dear Reader, my North Korean book, is to demonstrate how evil, rational, and logical their system is in order to further the Kim's family and their control and power.

There's nothing Putin's doing that is remotely crazy just because it's something evil or we don't understand.

Correct.

Correct.

We just don't understand what his real motives are, what his end game is.

We can look at it from our perspective and say that that's ridiculous, but until we understand him,

we don't stand a chance.

We don't stand a chance.

Thank you, Michael.

I appreciate it.

Always a pleasure.

Go ahead and take care, guys.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

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I'm going to tell you what I think we should do as a people, as a group of listeners, what we need to recognize,

and what all of this insanity means.

And it is insanity.

And

there's a lot of nuance in life.

And the reason why you can call the Tea Party Nazis or you can call the truckers Nazis is because some one person will show up with a Nazi flag, and they're probably not even involved with the movement.

And then that is the story.

And there is no nuance, there is no stopping and saying, well, wait a minute, is that true?

There is.

Life is more complex than black and white.

And the idea that

we should defend Putin is insanity.

I don't think we should go to war over this.

I think that would be a colossal.

It would be playing into the same things that we have done over and over and over again in the last hundred years and keep screwing it up.

To blame this on Joe Biden is also nonsense.

Did he play a role in screwing things things up?

Yes, he did.

Is he responsible in some regard for Putin wanting to do this and thinking he could get away with it because of Afghanistan?

Absolutely.

Is it Joe Biden's fault?

No, it is Putin's fault, period.

Now, how do we deal with him?

Well,

you know, that's where the subtlety comes in.

And it's not just do nothing, praise Putin, or go to the war.

It's not right.

I mean, and look, I think think Joe Biden definitely deserves a good chunk of blame for the way he's handled this.

And I think I know you agree with that.

You know, it's, of course, sort of similar to saying that, like, you know, someone goes, a bunch of crimes starts happening in a city that has defund the police.

It's like, you know, the criminals are primarily still at fault for the crimes, right?

You know, but the policy of defund the police is making it easier.

It's encouraging these things to go on.

And it's certainly doing nothing to solve the problem.

So Biden, look, Biden isn't responsive.

He's not launching missiles at Ukraine, but he is, he's his,

particularly Afghanistan, showed so much weakness that Putin, who wants to do terrible things, felt emboldened to do them.

And I think has emboldened China, as we're seeing today.

There is a leak from the Chinese press.

There's no leaks in China, you know, or you go away.

There's no leaks.

They intentionally leaked this out from their own media.

The leadership of China said, go easy on Russia, support them, because we're going to need their support when we take on the United States about Ukraine.

I'm sorry, about Taiwan, because Taiwan is not like Ukraine.

Taiwan has always been Chinese.

So that all stems from the weakness in Afghanistan.

This is what happens when you have a weak leader.

I would say we all need to pray for Joe Biden and the leadership of this nation.

Pray for us to know what to do.

I'm going to try to help you on that next.

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We are not in a battle against flesh and bone.

We are not in a battle against Putin or against

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Stu, can you give me a look at the price, where the stock market is, the price of Bitcoin, gold, silver,

oil?

Sure, sure.

So Dow is down about 600 points right now,

which is off of its lows from the last 24 hours, but still down quite a bit.

It's still, what, about 2%?

Not bad.

Bitcoin is at about 36,000,

which is about near its lows since the 2021 price increase.

It bounced between

$30,000 and

close to $70,000.

As the stock market, if the stock market falls dramatically, you will see Bitcoin fall as well,

only because people who have Bitcoin may have taken out margins

and bet on stocks, and they're going to have to pay that back.

So, you might see an initial fall of Bitcoin.

Could be for other reasons, but you should expect that as well.

Oil is over $100 a barrel for the first time since, I think, 2014.

It's at $104 basically right now.

Gold is approaching $2,000 an ounce.

It's at $19.29 right now.

So,

what an appropriate number.

$19.29.

Oh, man.

Great, great.

Amazing.

Okay.

So people, my own family has written to me, what do we do?

What do we do?

What do we do?

I want you to

think about things this way.

Look, there are so many ways this

whole world can come apart.

We are looking at a very, very fragile situation all over the world.

It's not just America.

This is happening all over the world,

especially in the West.

There is a feeling in me, a friend said to me, don't run away from something, always run towards something.

And you'll know when it's time to

find that thing or that thing will appear

when the seasons change.

He said, watch the leaves on the trees and you will know when the seasons change.

I will tell you that I think we have hit a season change.

I've been feeling it this last week, week and a half, that something is different and

it's a season change.

We're entering a new phase.

So some of the things that I would suggest you do, some may dismiss, but I will tell you,

we are fighting evil now.

We are.

And evil is

just rearing up its head and it thinks it's going to win.

It doesn't know what's coming for it, but it thinks it's going to win.

I know how it ends.

We all know if you're a Christian, we all know how this ends.

It's just which side are you going to be on?

And it's going to be very easy to get lost

and get swept up into things.

So, let me give you a couple things that we should be doing.

First of all, pray.

You should be praying and reading your Bible every day and be on your knees asking for guidance.

And listen and obey that still small voice that you hear.

That, there's nothing more important than that.

Get into groups and neighborhoods that think alike.

Find a group of friends that maybe will join you on this path

and you can help each other.

We are going to need each other if we're going to survive.

If you are all alone,

move.

Don't be the only person that is in your area and you're feeling alone.

Get out.

Find like-minded people

because the seasons have changed.

When you're preparing, think about the community as a whole.

I have a small town in Idaho that I just love.

And I moved there because it's a small town.

And they're all farmers.

And farmers know that they're going to have to take care of each other.

And right now, we are doing things as a town like we're building a smoker

because we know if there's a shortage of meat,

and let's say there's a shortage of power and power keeps going in and out, there's going to be a shortage that we won't be able to deal with.

So let's go learn how to smoke meat so we can smoke some beef and store some beef if it gets to that point.

You know, we didn't have a warning in 1929, really.

It wasn't, it was the roaring 20s, and then maybe a couple of years into it, a couple of years before 1929, some signs started to appear.

But it was a pretty fast crash.

We've had almost two decades decades to prepare.

So there's no excuse here.

We have the warnings.

You're either listening to them or you're not.

And if you're not, man, there are less stressful shows to listen to, honestly.

Honestly.

Prepare now.

And here's a couple of things you can do.

At this point, I would make sure that I had a week's worth of cash on hand.

Why?

Because

if I were Vladimir Putin and we started getting hit financially, I would unleash my team of hackers and I would shut down oil pipelines.

I would shut down

the access to our banks.

I would disrupt through hacking as much as I can.

He remember he said World War III will be fought with ones and zeros.

I don't know how prepared we are for that, but he's very prepared for that.

So we should be.

This isn't an attack against just the government.

This is an attack on us.

Make the people as miserable as possible.

So we could see, in very short order, banking holidays.

It would be rational.

If somebody is attacking our financial systems, then

they got to shut them down for a while, and it would cause great instability.

Do you have enough money just to be able to buy the things that you would need to buy buy so life is okay during a banking holiday?

You might want to have more

than that.

Fill your gas tanks and keep them, keep extra gas in gas tanks.

There will be shortages.

Keep them tapped up so if you needed to go someplace, you can go.

Call your oil heating company and tap your tank off, if you can, gas

for heat and cooking.

Get those tanks tanks filled now.

It'll be cheaper now

than later, but also you want to make sure if there is any disruption, you're not going into it with half a tank.

If you fill your pantry, you will thank me in a year.

If you go out and buy food today,

you will thank me in a year because inflation alone is going to go through the roof.

It will.

If you can get vegetables and even canned them out of season, but you can get them now, I would get them and can them.

They're going to be harder to get.

The price of fertilizer and just having a farm is going through the roof.

These things are going to be more scarce next year.

If you can, I would have a year's worth of food supply for my family.

And if I really had money, I would plan for others as well.

We are going to need one another.

And that's why I say be in these communities because somebody's going to have something that you need, and they're going to have something

that you need, and you're going to have something that they need.

Begin to think this way.

Really, really important.

Watch the other hand.

This is a very

dangerous and fragile time for freedom.

Look how fast Canada

called people terrorists and shut them down.

This is going to happen while we are not paying attention or for some other reasons.

It is vital that you get involved in your local and state politics.

You call your state reps and and tell them to stop ESG standards from being used in your state.

It is so important.

These standards are pretty much what the Canadian government is doing to the truckers.

Get your state to pass a law also against a single Fed coin.

I'm going to give you a story here.

that I can't believe we missed

in June 2021.

The Bank of England, that's their Federal Reserve.

The Bank of England has called on ministers to decide whether a central bank digital currency should be programmable,

ultimately giving the issuer control over how it is spent by the recipient.

Tom Mutton, the director of Bank of England, said during a conference on Monday that programming would become a key feature of any future bank digital currency, in which the money could be programmed to release only when something happened.

You can introduce programmability.

It happens to be one of the participants in a transaction.

It puts a restriction on the use of that money.

There could be some socially beneficial outcomes from that, preventing activities which are seen to be socially harmful in some way.

This is what they were talking about two years ago.

If you don't think that digital currency is coming, you're mistaken.

It is right around the corner, and it could be

something

like

what could be coming in response to Putin and our

cutting him off on the banks.

He will respond, I believe, in ones and zeros, and then the government will have its new virus.

It'll be a computer virus, and they'll have to protect us and shut things down.

Get your kids out of school if you can.

But local schools,

if you have to have the local school, make sure you know all about it.

Again, if you're the lone voice, move now.

If you are joining the truckers here in America,

Make sure you are not following a leader.

Make sure you're following God and the peace and actions of Christ.

Get the Martin Luther King Pledge of Nonviolence and get everyone in that group to sign it.

If they will not sign it, you may be in the wrong group.

Between real crazies who want to burn the entire thing down through war or chaos, plants from the left who are Antifa, and the fact that media, the Capitol Police, and the FBI actively in one way or another want to define us as terrorists,

be very, very, very careful.

Look how fast it happened in Canada.

Remember, chaos is from the adversary.

It is what I believe Putin is creating now.

I think he's doing it intentionally, but I could be wrong.

That's only a guess.

We are not asking for chaos.

We are asking for a return to order, the constitutional order.

That is really an important

difference.

If we can just keep our heads about us

and

not freak out, if we can have faith that

we have God guiding us and if we live righteous lives, if we are people of merit, as George Washington said, he will see us through.

I expect miracles to be seen.

In your time, in your life, you will see clear hand of God miracles if you haven't already.

Billy Graham was right when he said, God's doing stuff with people all over the world.

And

one of these days, he's going to turn on the lights and it'll be a surprise party for Satan.

And you will see that the solution could only have come from God because it's all of these individual people standing up.

I was talking to Stu yesterday about

people actually

having dreams dreams or hearing from God.

I think that is a growing thing.

Don't dismiss those promptings.

Don't dismiss them.

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So, Glenn,

what do you think is the end game here?

Is he going for

all of Ukraine?

There's the idea that maybe he goes for a giant chunk of it, but their old borders didn't encapsulate taking every inch of Ukraine.

Does he go farther than Ukraine, Moldova, NATO countries?

What do you think?

I think he I don't know because I don't think we know his motive.

I really don't think we know his motive.

If his motive is chaos,

then God help us, who knows?

He'll respond to our sanctions.

When the president speaks today, we'll know what those sanctions are.

And if they do indeed cripple, he will respond.

And I think he'll respond with ones and zeros, and then all bets are off.

You know, it makes sense to me that maybe he's just trying to take that corridor that leads to the Black Sea.

If he can take about half of Ukraine, he'll take the whole warmwater port that Ukraine has right now.

And that changes the game somewhat

for him.

And that I could see as a logical victory for him.

But again, I don't know his motivations, Du.

Do you?

He's not crazy.

Bill O'Reilly said he was crazy.

I don't think so.

No, I mean, his motivation might be crazy, but he's doing logical things to get to that end game, which is, you know,

that's the separation point, I think, between you two in that conversation.

You know, look,

his stated goal, as Bill pointed out and as you've pointed out many times, is to get the band back together, right?

To put this empire, the Russian empire, not even the Soviet Union as much as the Russian Empire back together.

You know, I think it's more than that.

You know, I think it's more than that.

But that is a big chunk of it.

He does want this territory.

He does want the advantages that come along with it.

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Russia claims to have destroyed 74 Ukrainian facilities, 11 air bases.

We don't know what their ultimate plans are at this point.

Biden is moving,

may move, additional U.S.

troops further east in Europe.

It looks like the sanctions, if this is true, Stu, can you read that story that you just told me about

the SWIFT banking procedures?

Yeah, the European Union is saying they are unlikely at this stage to take steps to cut Russia off from the SWIFT global interbank payment system.

I don't think that's a good thing.

That's insanity.

I mean,

if you're going to cut him off, you've got to cut him off at the knees right now.

You know, if you give him time, I mean, there should be, if the sanctions are serious, otherwise don't do them.

But if they're serious, you cut him off from selling any oil or gas anywhere in the West.

Don't let anybody fly from Russia into the West.

Don't let him do any banking.

I mean, the entire country, sorry, frozen.

Those are sanctions.

Everything else is a joke.

We have Representative Mark Green on with us.

He's from Tennessee.

Congressman, how are you, sir?

Glenn, I'm great, and thanks for having me on your show.

Real honor.

Sure.

I know we're going to talk about something you're going to introduce on Monday, but I wanted to first pick your brain about Ukraine and what we should be doing and what do you think this means?

Well, we're in a totally new era now.

This is an invasion of a Western-style democracy by a totalitarian dictator.

And I agree with you what you just said.

The swift banking transactions,

we can't do this half measures.

I mean, that's what got us, this is what got us where we are.

And so it's,

I think, I think

we need to crush their energy economy.

We need to crush the ruble, their currency.

They cannot ever think of doing this again.

You know, Biden said that he's going to have sanctions on him beyond his wildest expectations, or some, you know, hyperbolic statement like that.

And it reminds me of the full force and power of the United States when we said that in Iraq.

And I remember watching it going, that's the full force of the United States.

No, it's not.

I mean, it was good, but that's not the full force of the United States.

I don't, I mean, if he doesn't come out with

real sanctions today, we have even less credibility than we had earlier.

Absolutely.

If he doesn't do those banking sanctions, what he's doing is sanctioning what Vladimir Putin has done.

Because the next step will be disinformation campaigns and saboteurs in Georgia, the Baltics.

This guy is bent on destroying the West.

He wants to do to the West what happened to the Soviet Union.

And

this is his next move in a bigger plan.

I look at what happened in Canada with the truckers and how fast they could move to shut people off.

And I am, you know, Vladimir Putin said a few years ago that World War III, which he claimed at the time we were already in, the West just didn't know it.

He said, World War III will be fought with ones and zeros.

If we do put sanctions on him today that make his life uncomfortable, you know, I believe we could see financial sectors hit by

hackers, energy sectors hit here in the United States.

And it makes me very nervous that that would be something our government would say we need to crack down on everything online and take control of it just to protect you.

That seems

too easy.

Well, we certainly have authoritarians in control in the U.S.

now with this president and the Democrats in certain states.

You just look at the COVID response and the woke cancel culture, and

it's not a far reach to think that they would do something like that.

But I anticipate, I think you're right,

there will be cyber attacks on the U.S.

There already have, and the pipeline shutdown

was clearly

criminal elements, they say, criminal elements inside Russia.

Uh-huh.

Okay.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

China came out last night, and there was a leaked report, which leaks don't happen in China,

but there was a leaked report from the media that said the media needs to support Russia because we're going to need Russia's support when we deal with America on Taiwan.

How concerned are you with the relationship between

China and Russia?

Well, I'm very concerned that this axis is forming between Iran, Russia, and China.

And, you know,

if you look at history, and I know you are a lover of history, but if you go back to the end of the 30 years' war, we created this sort of world order concept and what began was what I call the polarity cycle where after a great war there's exhaustion there's some kind of treaty and there's multi-polarity countries are treated equally and then over time balance of power politics take over some countries can afford that some can't so there's alignment and eventually the the world or region aligns into this bipolar

state and then massive war usually follows and this has been my concern I've been echoing this for years that we have to be careful.

And I genuinely believe that's why Biden and his administration don't want to do the SWIFT transactions.

They think it pushes Russia further into China's arms.

But I would submit, I think they're already there.

They are strategically cooperating to,

you know, basically pin us.

And so

that's why I think devastating action needs to happen.

And perhaps as Xi Jinping watches that, he'll take note.

We have sold our soul to the devil with China.

And this is something you're going to introduce on

Monday.

But people don't have any idea how

the influence that we're already getting

in television and movies, how China is truly influencing everything.

Can you talk a little bit about the screen act?

Yeah, absolutely.

And of course, thanks for having me on to talk about this.

Americans are aware of what's happening at the NBA, you know, with the suppression.

I mean, they took that one player from the Celtics off.

I mean, he's basically not playing basketball anymore.

They have canceled other people for making statements.

So everybody knows about the NBA kowtowing to China.

What a lot of people aren't aware of is that our movies are now a part of China's disinformation campaign in the U.S.

And you take movies like Skyfall and Mission Impossible 3.

They actually changed the script of the movie to be more positive towards China.

And it's just example after example.

Doctor Strange was supposed to be in the script from Tibet.

But of course, Tibet, you know, the Chinese don't want anything talked about the suppression or

oppression that's happening there.

So

the movie script was changed, and the guy was Celtic.

So this stuff is going on in America to Hollywood, and they're doing the same thing.

Now, there are some actors speaking up.

You take a guy like Richard Gere, who's actually boldly stepped out and said, this is going on, but it's really unacceptable.

So I've written this bill.

If any, oh, go ahead.

I was just going to say, he has paid a heavy, heavy price.

He is outspoken on the evils of China and

the peacefulness of Tibet and what's going on.

And he's paid a heavy price.

It's why his career has kind of just been lost all of a sudden.

Yeah, no, they are canceling people who speak out on this.

There was a actually Beijing-born director, producer who came to America, made some great movies, but then they found something that she said back eight years ago where she said the Chinese Communist Party is a bunch of liars and there's nothing in China but lies.

And she immediately got silenced.

So

it's massive.

And what we're doing is basically saying if you take American dollars and the State Department and DOD oftentimes support movies being made.

So if you're taking taxpayer dollars, you cannot alter that movie to meet China's demands.

And if you do, we're taking that money back.

Why?

Just help me out here.

Why are we, why is the government supporting movies and funding movies to be made?

Well, if you think about it from the DOD's perspective, if they, for example, loan a helicopter for a military movie, it serves to recruit people into the military.

So it's somewhat of a recruitment budget.

And then from the State Department's standpoint, it's tourism.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I

mean, I can see it from the DOT.

I don't know about the State Department, but okay.

And you, what are you expecting?

I mean,

is our government

not in the pocket of China?

Well, very clearly, the Democrats do not want to criticize China.

I tried to put this as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, and it got voted down in the Armed Services Committee.

So the the Democrats don't want to talk about this.

We'll launch this bill next week.

We'll make a big, you know, get the press out there, try to educate Americans.

It probably won't see the light of day in committee, but we'll get people talking about it.

We'll get other Republicans to sign on to the bill, maybe a Democrat or two.

There are a couple of reasonable ones out there.

I was impressed by what

Galejo said about Obama and Ukraine.

That was a great comment from him.

The real weakness in America started with Obama.

So there are a couple out there.

We'll get them on.

We'll get the word out about it.

And then when we take control of the House in the fall, we've got to deliver for the American people on this issue and so many others.

And we're going to.

So

that's the next battle.

I have one minute left.

I have to ask you:

Are we going to war?

Do you foresee going to war in Ukraine and Europe with this?

Not immediately because, one, we're not going to send troops there.

We will send military aid to them and we're going to continue to do that.

Putin won't push beyond Ukraine now.

He'll get in there, get a puppet government set up, and slowly start his disinformation campaign in the next country.

So it's not something that's going to happen tonight.

But we are at war with them in a sense.

You think of military, kinetic war, but there's also informational war, diplomatic war, economic war.

All of those other phases are ongoing now.

Okay.

Thank you so much, Congressman.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for all your hard work.

That's Congressman Mark Green from Tennessee.

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