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The first leading cause of death in America

is heart disease.

Kills 659,041 people every year in the United States.

The third is cancer, killing 599,601.

What is the second leading cause of death?

You're not going to be able to find this if you look it up because apparently we don't categorize abortion as deaths.

But if we recognized abortions as the death of a human being, a baby, it would be the second leading cause of death in the U.S.

One in four,

24% of women will have an abortion by the age of 45.

Over 60 million babies have been killed since Roe v.

Wade.

Today,

in the Supreme Court, they begin hearing the arguments in Dobbs versus Jackson.

That's Jackson's women's health organization.

Lynn Fitch, who is leading the state's arguments, said, with this brief, we're simply asking the court to affirm the right of the people to protect their legitimate interest and to provide clarity on how they may do so.

So you have

Thomas Dobbs.

He's an MD.

He's the Mississippi State Health Officer and Petitioner to the U.S.

Supreme Court.

Jackson

Woman's Health Organization, the only abortion clinic in the state of Mississippi,

and the first female Attorney General in Mississippi, Lynn Fitch.

She's representing the state of Mississippi.

The oral arguments begin today.

We're expecting the court to tell us

whether they're going to return this to the state or they're going to let Roe versus Wade stand as is

probably sometime this summer, right in the middle of the midterm elections.

Going to be interesting.

There's also a big middle ground there where they could come up with something in between those two points.

where perhaps they allow states to regulate it more, but not all the way to the overturn of Roe versus Wade.

Correct.

Roe versus Wade is all about, and so is this.

It's all about viability.

Roe versus Wade doesn't really define viability.

And viability is different.

In Roe versus Wade, it was 28 weeks.

Now we're at 20 weeks.

So where is that line now?

It doesn't define it.

Never made any sense.

Never made any sense.

Obviously, right?

I mean, if something something can change with technology, then how can that be a constitutional right?

Right?

Like, it's such a bizarre

construction.

And obviously, the Constitution does not allow or provide this sort of quote-unquote right inside.

So

this is what the state of Mississippi is saying.

Roe and Casey shackle states to a view of the facts that are decades out of date.

It's time for the court to set it right and return the political debate to the political branches of government.

So

they want the court to clarify whether abortion is actually constitutionally protected.

Obviously, they're saying it's not constitutionally protected.

You don't have a right to kill a baby.

Nothing in text, structure, history, or tradition makes abortion a fundamental right or denies the state the power to restrict it.

That power is reserved to the states.

If you killed a child in utero

after what was called the quickening,

you could be held for murder in

early America.

And before that in Britain and everything else, in England.

Once you knew that it was a baby and the baby was moving, you would be charged with murder if you did anything to kill it.

And coincidentally, or maybe not so coincidentally, it's about 15 weeks.

Right, right.

So that's the Mississippi law is 15 weeks.

So, the state of Mississippi is arguing the decisions about abortion are policy matters that should be decided by the people and not locked behind the doors of an unelected judiciary.

She argues that the state has a legitimate interest in protecting the lives of the unborn, the health of women, and the integrity of the medical profession.

They're not asking for an overturn.

When they say, this is going to overturn Roe versus Wade, no, it won't.

It won't in California.

It won't in New York.

It will overturn Roe versus Wade.

In theory, it could.

However, the states can just do it on their own.

Yeah.

So

it's not going to overturn abortion.

And let me ask you this.

The Democrats are now saying

that

this is a point of revolution for them.

That the Democrats will fight in open revolution if this happens.

Now, I don't know why that isn't being investigated by the FBI,

but

I could say the same thing would be true on the right

if the federal government said, we are going to go house to house collecting all of the guns.

There would be a revolution in this country from the right, correct?

I mean, if they were going door.

Door to door.

Yeah.

Door to door.

I can't imagine that would be a problem.

Right.

But I can't imagine that the people on the right would say it's revolution if the state, if the Supreme Court said,

states can do whatever they want.

You can have guns, not have guns.

The states can do whatever they want.

It still would be wrong,

but people in Texas would say, move the hell down here.

We've been telling you for a while to get out of New York and get out of California.

Move to a free place.

That's what would happen.

And I don't believe that a revolution would actually happen if it was left to the states and the federal government back off.

Back off.

Now, I could be wrong on that.

But this is something that they are saying if it's left even to the states, because again, they're misrepresenting this.

The media is lying to you again.

The left is lying to you again.

This is not an end to all abortion.

It is saying let the voters of each state decide.

That's not good enough.

Now, in 1972, things were a little different.

Things have changed.

We can literally watch babies grow in the womb now.

We have found out that they do feel pain thanks to medical advancements.

We didn't know that when Roe versus Wade was happening.

I mean, come on.

We didn't.

We weren't able to prove it.

Yes, that's a better way of saying that.

Yes, we weren't able to prove it.

When it was enacted, the idea also of a working mother was still seen as far-fetched.

The core argument back then, when it was first debated in the Supreme Court, is that abortion was necessary for women to achieve success.

Now, this,

you know,

this idea

predicates off a sneaky misogynist argument peddled by feminists that argues if women want to be successful, they need to overcome their womanhood and be more like men.

That's ridiculous.

The argument that abortion is necessary for women's success is a quintessential outdated argument.

It assumes that A, motherhood in and of itself itself is not success.

B, mothers are unable to contribute in society in meaningful ways.

Three, that women without children contribute more to society.

And this is usually justified by discussions of how mothers earn less in the workforce, which reduces success to only financial success.

This has changed.

We don't have the same

country that we had in 1973.

And I know the left and the media would like to say, I know we don't.

We have one that's more like 1956.

But we don't.

We don't.

Now, the counter-arguments to

this case is, and I love this one, it's Supreme Court precedent.

It's settled law.

Okay,

all right.

In fact, the Center for Reproductive Rights, the CEO, said the Supreme Court just agreed to review an abortion ban that unquestionably violates nearly 50 years of Supreme Court precedent.

Precedent doesn't mean that it's right.

And you'd know that if you knew Plessy v.

Ferguson.

Plessy versus Ferguson is the separate but equal Supreme Court precedent from 1896 until 1954.

That was 58 years.

So just because the court said it once doesn't make it right.

And things

change.

So

what's going to happen?

Well, the Dobbs case actually has a real shot of returning abortion decision-making power to the states.

We know more about the development of babies.

We have disproved that women need to abort children to have any kind of success.

And there has never, ever, ever been and still isn't a sound constitutional argument to back up Roe versus Wade or Casey.

In asking for a clarification, Dobbs will push the Supreme Court to review the constitutionality of how the judiciary is protecting abortion.

A push pro-choice advocates are very afraid of because they know, as far as the Constitution goes, they don't have a leg to stand on.

That's what this is all going to decide.

We are going to have in hour number three of today's radio show and podcast, we have the governor of Mississippi

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this is the result of these leftist policies.

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We have Senator Ron Johnson, the U.S.

Senator, Republican from Wisconsin.

We want to talk to him about the Waukesha Christmas massacre.

Senator,

it's bothered me so much that the White House keeps saying our hearts are with the people of Waukesha,

although our thoughts and prayers are not good enough for them most of the time.

But

the White House is correct, and so are we.

Our hearts and our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Waukesha.

Horrible, horrible tragedy.

Well, I appreciate that.

What I can report from Waukesha is the healing has begun.

It began literally the moment of the tragedy, as you saw the citizens of Waukesha respond with just

compassion,

integrity,

as they were dealing with the victims.

Again, I'm just, I'm haunted.

And I wasn't there.

I'm haunted by the thought of little children on the curb waiting to see Santa Claus and the dancing grannies instead seeing the slaughter.

So it's going to take an awful lot of time to heal, but the very next night they held a...

interfaith prayer vigil.

I think it was probably over a thousand people that showed up.

I was able able to attend and just talk to members of the community, the first responders.

I mean, it was,

I'll never forget it.

Sorrowful and yet hopeful, I guess, because so often, Gwen, you know, this is in the midst of one of these horrific events that caused by the worst in humanity.

The best of humanity is often revealed.

And I think we witnessed that, again,

right away in Waukesha.

And as the city continues to heal, I think we'll continue to see that.

So they'll recover, but I know they truly appreciate the thoughts and prayers.

I know they're appreciating the financial supports, Community Foundation.

I think they've been,

I don't want to say overwhelmed, but I think they're incredibly appreciative of all the thoughts and prayers and all the financial assistance coming in to help people that heal the grievously injured.

We still have

three children in critical condition, a number of the other adults in critical condition as well.

So this is going to be a long, long road to recovery.

All right.

Let me take you through a timeline here.

You first slammed Democratic officials following the Christmas parade over the weekend.

You said, when you look the other way, when you almost encourage lawlessness, I would drop the word almost, just like, let's face it.

You have political figures doing during the summer riots of 2020, encouraging people to donate to the bail fund so you can bail these people out.

When you encourage lawlessness, you're going to get more of it.

It becomes more and more violent.

It starts spilling over from crime-ridden, generally democratic governed cities into surrounding areas.

That's probably what we witnessed here in Waukesha.

You started to get all kinds of heat from the left on that.

Do you still stand by those words?

Yes, I'm outraged.

by what happened because it never should have happened, Glenn.

It never should have happened.

This

the accused, now call him the accused,

he never should have been out on the street.

But it's the catch and release, not only at the southern border, but we have catch and release within our criminal justice system.

And you've got the left pushing either low bail or no bail.

And again, you had

the current vice president after the Minneapolis riots, encouraging people to donate to a bail fund to bail the rioters out.

You have the press looking the other way.

as during the 570 plus riots during the summer, instead all the focuses on on january 6th as much as i condemn that now i'm also condemning the violence the the 2 000 law enforcement officers who were injured during those summer riots the couple dozen people killed during those the two billion dollars of profit damage we're all supposed to look away from that

but we focus instead on you know when there may be a perpetrator that comes more from the right side of the the political spectrum.

So no, I'm outraged by all of this, but I am outraged for the citizens, for the community community of Waukesha that are suffering when they shouldn't have, have to.

This never should have happened.

And we've got to call it out.

Part of the healing process, part of the due process, is to examine why is this guy in the street?

Why was he able to commit this evil, heinous act?

Why?

And then correct it.

So

that's going to be part of the process.

Go ahead.

So help me out because just a few days later,

you come out with a statement with Tammy Baldwin, who is your cohort there in

Congress.

She is the Democrat senator from Wisconsin.

And you write this, it has come to our attention that outside individuals or groups may attempt to exploit the tragedy that occurred last Sunday in Waukesha for their own political purposes.

As the U.S.

Senators representing Wisconsin, one from each political party, we are asking everyone to consider such action to cease and desist.

We have full confidence in the local officials who responded with extraordinary professionalism, competence, integrity, and compassion.

They have many difficult duties to perform in the coming days, weeks, and months, and they should be afforded the respect and support they deserve to undertake their responsibilities without outside

interference.

You go on for a couple of more paragraphs, but it's basically the same thing.

What's angering some people on both sides is you just made it political by saying what you just said, and now you're saying don't make it political.

Well, how is this not a political issue?

So, I guess you have to read carefully what I said.

I was trying to head off the past action that could result in potential violence again in Waukesha.

So, you know, I had received from the people I spoken to on Monday, I get a call that Friday that they are concerned that groups from both sides were going to descend on Waukesha to protest or whatever, and they were concerned of a clash and maybe more violence.

And so all I was reacting to, then they asked me, is it, can I do anything to help?

I said, well, I could issue a statement.

I could try and get Senator Baldwin on it on a bipartisan basis.

Just ask people, please don't do that.

Now, we weren't specific.

I didn't want to give anybody ideas.

This is just something that May had been planning.

We were just trying to head something off of the past.

But I was talking about action.

I was talking about potential violence.

This is obviously a political situation.

And I, by the way, I share, so yeah, I'm getting a lot of of criticism from the right.

I basically agree with them 99% in terms of what they're talking about, because I am outraged by the fact that the left wouldn't stop talking about, for example, Charlottesville.

They won't stop talking about January 6th, but you don't hear much about the assault on the Republican members of Congress on the baseball field.

I don't think Wakshaw is really much on anybody's front page other than in right-wing media now.

So trust me,

both of us are recipients of grossly unfair coverage by the left, the left-wing media, the distortions, the lies, the false narratives.

So no, I'm not happy with it at all.

I think I blame the press for so much of our divisiveness in this country.

They exacerbate it.

They're the ones that like to fuse.

So I completely agree with, even people criticize me.

I understand why they criticize me.

And I agree with them.

But again, they're just getting it wrong that I was inferring that don't make this political.

It is political.

This occurred because of political decisions on no and low bail that need to be protected or corrected, but they need to be called out.

So again, I think my statement was misconstrued.

Again, they didn't understand the backstory.

They didn't understand I was responding to requests to help to try and head something off of the pass.

We didn't want to see more violence.

Again,

I'm talking to people who had to help pick up dead bodies off the pavement.

They had enough to deal with.

They didn't need to deal with additional protesters and people taking advantage of the situation,

physical presence, potentially resulting in violence.

That's what we're doing.

Coming in from other parts of the country, too.

Usually, these protesters

are bused in.

So, what do we do

about this?

What can be done?

I mean,

the media is truly, truly responsible.

The best example, counterexample of this, is what happened in Charlottesville.

That story, everybody knows.

Donald Trump

took the brunt of that one because basically he said kind of the same thing.

He was saying, there's good people on both sides.

I condemn those who do the violence,

but

let's not, you know, bunch everybody into this together.

He was saying, let's look at this rationally.

The press wouldn't do it.

You're saying, just give me,

we have to talk about politics, but let's be rational on the ground.

Let's not do anything that calls BLM in

or, you know, any white supremacist group in, correct?

Yeah, right.

I just didn't want to see physical fire.

physical presence that could result in violence.

Okay.

But no, the political discussion has to take care or take place.

And there's no doubt about it.

The media, the bulk of the mainstream media, the social media, they are far left.

Now, fortunately, we still have freedom of the press.

So we've got you.

We've got the Blaze.

We've got other conservative outlets.

So we have freedom of the press, but we are, by and large, overwhelmed by the left press in the mainstream media.

It's a huge disadvantage that we have.

So we've got to work harder.

We've got to work smarter.

We do need to remain unified as much as possible.

I think that would also be helpful.

Senator Ron Johnson,

thank you.

You know,

it is

becoming increasingly difficult

to be able to hold people together when we are absolutists.

You are either absolutely my enemy or you're absolutely my friend.

And

one

issue or one disagreement on approach

changes everything.

And that won't work.

That just won't work.

We have to be able to

have some reason if we're going to be able to stick together.

No, it's a losing strategy.

It's just a losing strategy.

You need to, you know, we need to cling to our first principles.

We need to understand what do we agree on.

And, you know, from the right, we all agree on.

I think this was Donald Trump's greatest achievement.

He assembled a coalition of people that fervently love this country.

And in addition, they recognized what made it great.

Not big government.

Individual liberty and freedom, operating within a free market system that allows them to dream and aspire and build and create.

That's the coalition that we need to keep together.

And yeah, we're going to have our differences.

You may not agree with everything everybody says or how they write something.

but we need to focus on what we are trying to accomplish.

We're trying to save this country because the left is destroying it.

So again, you know, some people may not like the way I issued that statement on a bipartisan basis, but I would do it again because it was the right thing to do.

If there's no, there's no writing yet in Wakshaw, and that's a good thing.

Maybe I helped prevent that.

I don't know.

But it was worth doing.

It was worth trying to help.

But at the same time, we have to recognize the left is destroying this country.

They are our political opponents.

We need to focus on them.

We need to exert our energy to defeating them.

And when I say defeat, I mean sweep them from power at the national level, at the state, and at the local level, primarily at the local level.

And we've allowed radical leftists to take over our school boards, which is why they're teaching critical race theory.

We took our eye off the ball, focusing everything on the federal government.

We need to focus and be as relentless as the left is in preserving our freedom as they are in taking it away from us.

Thank you very much, Senator Ron Johnson.

I appreciate it.

God bless.

Thank you.

You bet.

God bless.

By the way, I believe, I'm not sure if it's up on the website yet.

Do we know if he wrote an op-ed

and

Jason Whitlock disagrees with him?

He's going to be on with us in about an hour.

Hopefully, Jason was listening to this and he's going to respond.

But he's already written an op-ed that was placed on the Blaze.

And so the senator asked for the same opportunity.

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I live in a town

that

is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Last night, you know, we have a $13 million firehouse.

It's nicer than anybody's house I've ever been in.

I haven't been to Bill Gates' house.

It is unbelievable.

$13 million.

They built it because the firemen accidentally left the stove on while they were out on a car call and burned down the other firehouse.

But that's, we don't have to concentrate on that.

So $13 million firehouse.

Last night I go to the Christmas tree lighting and everybody gets an armband from the city.

Armband?

Wow, we are really

dark rose.

No, a wristband.

Oh, okay.

And it lights up when they lit the Christmas tree.

And it was like, yay.

And, you know, as they're doing it, I don't have the wristband.

And I went, yay.

And all of our property tax paid for this, and you're going to throw it away in the next few minutes.

And at least some people turned around and went, damn right, I am really getting sick of this.

And I said, oh, but have you seen in the town hall the new restaurant bar the city built with your taxes so you can go in and talk to the mayor or the city council in a restaurant bar atmosphere?

Run by the town?

Run by the town.

What the hell is happening to common sense?

That's the definition of socialism.

And they're competing with local businesses.

Exactly right.

So some local restaurant down the road.

Not subsidized by our tax dollars.

So the local restaurant is paying taxes to support its own competition that's being run by the city.

It's insanity.

It's absolute inspiration.

Sanity.

Unreal.

We, by the way, our little town pays twice the property tax than the highest property tax in the entire state of Texas.

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all right some really good news coming out of our states

uh there have been um

14 state treasurers that have actually now signed on um

to

a letter saying warning the banks

the banks last week they received a letter six hundred billion dollars in assets from the states they take in money from taxes etc etc and they put them in these banks and they said they are going to take all of that money if the financial institutions embrace corporate wokeism and prohibit financing of the fossil fuel industry this is the main point

of

Build Back Better.

Build Back Better is being led by the banking authority and the investment firms.

So

they know that they can do it without the government.

If the government pressures these businesses, these banks, to sign on to this, they'll make a lot of money and they'll make things all green and all social justice and it will be a utopia because they will destroy any of the businesses that disagree with them.

So they are now not financing new oil refineries,

new energy projects.

They're not financing the Keystone oil pipeline.

The government is in bed now with the banks and soon the insurance companies and you won't be able to do business.

Gun owners,

you're not going to have a store that is going to be able to afford the insurance or get the loans to be able to buy an inventory so you can have guns.

Your gun manufacturer is not going to be able to have a bank that will provide transactions for them.

This is what's happening.

Now,

This is being led by West Virginia Republican Treasurer Riley Moore,

and he's got 14 state treasurers on board right now.

They promised a collective action in the form of economic boycotts.

Just as each state represented in this letter is unique in its own governing laws and economy, our action will take different forms.

However, the overarching objective of our actions will be the same, to protect our state's economies, jobs, and energy independence from these unwarranted attacks on our critical infrastructure and

industries.

So far, they have the state treasurers from Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming, Alabama, Texas, and Kentucky, in addition to West Virginia.

Now,

the left is saying, well, there's 22 Republican states.

How come you only have 14?

This is no big deal.

This is the beginning of this.

When I talked to the

22

attorney generals,

they were having their annual meeting, and the Republican attorney generals were there.

And I talked to them about the great reset, and I told them what was happening with the banking system.

Most of them, I would say half of them, didn't know anything about this.

They had heard things, but they weren't really sure what it was.

And when I explained the banking system, they perked up and were like, wait, wait, wait.

And told them, look, it is up to the attorney generals.

And I didn't say the state treasurers, but this is a brilliant plan.

It is up to the individual states.

If we don't stand together, we will fall.

And this is a really good thing.

So if you live in a Republican state, you need to call your state treasurer's office and your governor's office and ask them why they are not signing on to this financial letter

with West Virginia.

You can find the letter online.

I'll tweet it out.

Stu can you just tweet it out from me?

We'll tweet it out so you can read it.

But they are not going to put your tax dollars in any of these banks who are going along with the ESG nonsense when it comes to oil and gas.

I think it should be expanded.

I think there should be oil and gas and any other

constitutionally legal

operation.

I mean,

the banks won't won't do business with

these pot places.

They won't take the money.

That's caused a lot of problems.

Well,

I can kind of understand that because it's not settled.

But somebody needs to settle this.

Is this legal or not legal?

Right now, the state and the federal government are arguing about it.

Settle it.

And if it's going to be legal, which it's going to be, if it's going to be legal, then the banks should have to be able,

should be forced to take that money and treat them just like any other legal business.

Period.

These giant corporations are going to kill us if we don't stand together.

This is a state boycott again.

The states Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming, Alabama, Texas, Kentucky, and West Virginia are all in on this and have already signed the letter.

If your state wasn't included in that, call your state treasurer right now.

Call your governor's office.

Call the head of your GOP

in that state and say, why aren't you doing this?

Get on board with this.

Because ESG is changing absolutely everything.

Really is, and it's affecting all sorts of different things.

It's why we're paying so much money for gas.

Yeah.

This is a good example, Glenn.

This is a story in the New York Times that came out the other day about Europe now revisiting their nuclear power stance as climate deadlines loom.

So, wait, wait, wait, what is their stance?

They're for it or against it?

They were for it at one point.

Okay, yeah.

France famously has 80% of their power from nuclear.

And then they turned against it, I don't know, maybe a decade or so ago.

Because of

dumb environmentalist pressure, even though.

It's the cleanest and safest energy source we have ever developed as man.

Full stop.

It's that clear.

And so it should be something that they should embrace.

And it's one of those things that the conservatives have generally embraced, too.

I mean, it's exciting, right?

The idea to have an unlimited amount of power that we don't have to depend on anyone else for is a pretty great thing, not to mention any of the climate benefits that might come out of it.

Correct.

So you're not serious about climate control and climate change.

You're not serious about it if you don't add nuclear energy as the top idea that we need to pursue.

Easiest way to sort out a real environmentalist from someone who's just playing politics.

You could stop all coal tomorrow, all coal tomorrow, and not have a blip as long as you've built the nuclear power plants.

You build the nuclear power plants.

We don't ever need coal.

Sorry, West Virginia and Pennsylvania.

Now, you go back to when we were building the nuclear power plants.

It's ancient technology to what they could do now.

I mean, it really is.

So part of this story talks about how they're coming up with these new technologies and they want to implement them.

And what's interesting about it is they can't seem to pull the trigger on this.

And it's because essentially of a version of what you're talking about and have been talking about, ESG standards.

France and a bunch of other Eastern European countries, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania, they want the European Union, this overarching group that sits above all of them for decision-making purposes, to classify nuclear energy as sustainable and a sustainable investment.

If they are to do that, it flips a switch and it would unlock billions of euros in state aid and investment from pension funds, banks, and other investors seeking to put money in environmental causes.

Correct.

So

from day one to day two, nuclear power doesn't get any better or any worse for the environment.

But if the ESG standards say, hey, now we think we're going to classify it as a sustainable investment,

the environmental profile has not changed here.

They're just flipping a switch and saying, no, it's not sustainable.

Yes, it is sustainable.

When that happens, all of this money can flow into it.

So the European Union is controlling.

billions and billions and billions of dollars in investment basically on a dumb piece of paper that changes the classification of nuclear energy.

And that is exactly what's going to happen.

And think of the corruption.

Think of the corruption.

Your politicians will be.

You're begging for it.

You're begging for corruption.

Your politicians will be in control of all investment dollars based on how they define

racial equity, how they define environmental equity,

sustainability.

If they want to put a carve out,

then that industry suddenly is going to be fine.

If they're not friendly to that industry, they will destroy that industry.

And it won't make any sense.

This is all corrupt.

All of this is corrupt.

And it gives you the appearance of a quote-unquote free market of investment when it's not a free market of investment.

It's being directed by the government.

And in this case, not even the the country's government, but above that with the European Union.

And you think Brexit was a bad idea?

I mean, you want to get, this is how you are able to pull yourself out of these decisions.

So, you know, Amarova, who because of this audience,

according to a couple of senators, because of this audience, you knew about Amorova, the woman that was going to be the comptroller of our treasury.

We talked about that a lot.

You reacted to it, and you woke senators up.

And she has been denied her position in the Biden cabinet.

And not just Republican senators, but Democratic senators.

This audience woke up with that.

Four of them.

Four of them.

I thought it was five.

It might have been

five total, I think.

Yeah.

So just so you know, the kind of thing that she was advocating for and the Biden administration is advocating for is that Congress would delegate a golden share responsibility to federal agencies?

I don't know if Congress has to do that if we don't get our federal agencies under control.

A golden share responsibility to federal agencies, which she defined as a wide range of legal arrangements giving the government special, exclusive, and non-transferable corporate governance rights in privately owned businesses.

So, in other words, if a business says, no, we are going to build another factory, we're going to be making more of this, whatever it is, and the government doesn't like it.

The government has a golden share and it overrides the shareholders and the board of directors.

So it can basically say, no,

you're not doing that anymore.

Whatever whim there is.

This is the definition of corporate fascism.

It's really dangerous.

If your state is not on that list, this is

a

great fight to have.

This is the state's and your local city should be doing the same.

You should be doing the same.

If you still have your money in one of the big five banks, you need to pull that money out.

Do it today.

Pull your money out and tell them why and put it into a local bank.

Locally owned and operated.

You have to do that now.

Send them the message, you're not doing any of this with my money.

If we all stood together, we could change things

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Jason Whitlock is joining us about Waukesha coming up in just a few minutes.

Stu, I think

we should spend a little time on Fredo getting whacked.

Partially whacked.

Partially whacked.

Yes, poor Fredo, Chris Cuomo,

who's just awful.

Andrew Cuomo is awful.

Chris Cuomo is worse.com.

And, you know, looking at this happen, I don't think

I believed it until just a couple of days ago that CNN would do anything about this.

Well, but have they?

I mean,

you have to say they have standards.

They're incredibly low standards.

And I don't, again, believe that they're doing this because they think or care about journalistic integrity when it comes to Chris Cuomo.

They care that I think they've been embarrassed so fully.

Here's the Fredo analogy.

Do you remember the godfather comes up to Fredo at the wedding and kisses him?

I know it was you, Fredo.

I know it was you.

And Fredo kind of backs up.

That was CNN kissing yesterday,

but he hasn't gotten into the boat to go fishing yet.

All they did was,

all the godfather was saying was, Fredo, I know it was you.

Get away.

Go away.

And he stands, you know, in the other room at the wedding.

He's not been, he's not been sleeping with the fishes yet.

So far, yeah, he's suspended indefinitely, which is a considerable step from CNN.

They actually have done more than I would have expected them to do.

Now,

on the other side of this, what happens?

I have all sorts of complete speculation as to what's going on behind the scenes.

But what we can say is that they, you know, you know with Jeffrey Toobin, they brought him back after he was doing his thing on the Zoom call.

Yeah, doing his thing.

Yeah, and brought him back on the air.

And so there's some belief that well if they didn't get rid of tubin but toobin was i mean a gross icky awful i'd fire him for it mistake yeah but it was a mistake yeah that's important i think that it was unintentional we believe that jeffrey tubin did this with chris cuomo it was intentional i mean he was and he went on the air months after it occurred and lied about it on the air and lied to cnn about it and told cnn that he did not call

press sources

about his brother, which he said on the air and lied about.

And he said he did not try to get information and disparage these women, which we now have text messages of him multiple times trying to get the group to align behind this lead he had to take down

the wedding girl, as he put it.

It's amazing.

Who was accusing

him?

Real quick, why do you,

Is it just do you think that

he's got legal stuff against CNN that's making them not fire?

I would not be surprised if he had previously been in the offices of executives and giving them legal advice that

they don't want out there.

I think they bring him back once the storm blows over.

I think they're trying to see how big the storm is, basically.

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He's a Blaze TV host, Fearless.

He has written and spoken about Waukesha a lot.

And he disagrees with Senator Ron Johnson, who was on with us an hour ago and who has written his own op-ed that can be found at theblaze.com right now.

I'll be tweeting it out soon.

Jason says, here's why Daryl Brooks and the Waukeshaw massacre must be politicized.

And I don't know, Jason, if you heard the senator, but

I don't think he disagrees with you.

I did hear what he said.

I've read his op-ed.

It was sent to me.

And what I would say is

I think that Ron Johnson and a lot of conservatives don't understand

how boldly and fearlessly the left is going to have to be confronted

about

their racist strategy that they're executing

and that the Waukesha massacre gives us a great opportunity to boldly and fearlessly put it in everyone's face just how

evil, wicked, dastardly,

deceptively they're going about trying to change America and

they're using race to do it

and they have to be called out on this

at all times.

And so I reread his original statement with Tammy Baldwin, and I get that he's saying that what I was trying to infer is let's not have political violence.

And listening to his words today, I can see where he was trying to go with that public statement.

But,

you know, the statement out there on its own looked like the kind of naivety that I see from a lot of conservatives that somehow we're going to make peace with these guys and

we're going to be above

addressing the racial game that's being played on conservatives and people of traditional values and Christians.

And we just can't afford to do it.

And I know there's great peril and risk to doing it, and particularly for white guys.

But that is what the time requires.

So I agree with you 100%.

I happen happen to agree with him also 100%.

Because I think the disagreement here is in the nuance.

Because he came out and blasted

the media, blasted the left, blasted this new, you know, justice reform bullcrap that lets everybody out without bail.

And he took that on.

Then for the vigil and everything else, he was saying, let's not have political activists out on the streets.

Let's Let's not make this political, no violence.

So, I think the problem here is

we don't have a tolerance of nuance.

We see people as either on our side or off our side.

And you could say that about either one of you.

You're not on the side of peace, and you're not on the side of defending the Republic.

You guys are both

on the same side.

It's just this

lack of nuance or reality of nuance because if we don't appreciate nuance,

we're going to lose because we need everybody on the same side.

Glenn, I would agree.

And one of

my strengths and maybe a flaw in this example is like, I'm a writer.

Yeah.

And so words matter.

And so what I read was, hey, let's don't anybody exploit this for political purposes.

what I heard him say today was let's make sure there's no political violence yes and and so yeah I was reacting to what was in the statement I think where Ron Johnson makes a great point is he's basically in his op-ed he's like Jason or whoever's criticizing Call me man I'm on your team.

Didn't you see what I said earlier?

I totally agree.

And so that's a fair criticism of me.

Yeah, no, I mean

it happens to all of us.

It happens to all of us.

I just think that

because my first question to him was, how do you not make this about politics?

Because politics is what led to this.

Yes.

No question about.

And you just hammered my point.

Right.

Their political strategy, the democratic political strategy is racially dividing this country and leading to this sort of violence.

And to sit there and to think Daryl Brooks killed six people and his social media posts filled with his worldview, his racist worldview, his

anti-Trump worldview.

He quotes Hitler.

He quotes Hitler.

All the things that

allegedly inspired the insurrection

that only one person died and she was shot by police.

And here we got six dead bodies, one of them a child,

50, 60 people in the hospital.

And we know that

I don't know what percent, if it's only 2%,

he was radicalized by our corporate media and the mainstreaming of ideas

that are repugnant and false.

And we need to talk about the consequences of the strategy that the Democrats are executing.

And so I'm just, it has to be exploited for political purposes.

I get his desire and wanting to be a responsible politician and make sure there's no additional violence.

I don't know if I would have issued a joint, and I know that there's probably he, there's about, hey, a joint statement between Democrats and Republicans.

I'd have put out my own statement

because you start compromising with idiots and people that have no respect for objective truth, you ended up coming out with a watered-down statement that doesn't clearly state what you actually believe.

And that's my problem with the left.

Objective truth is not part of their platform.

It's not part of what they believe.

And so you end up compromising with people and you meet people halfway to stupidity.

Yeah, I think you're right on that.

You know, I got a lot of heat for going down to the border from the right

and taking care of these kids that were just abandoned by Obama.

It's basically the same kind of situation that is happening now.

We're arguing about these kids in the cages, but who's really taking care of them?

Nobody is really taking care of them.

It's a much worse situation now.

And I wanted to make sure these kids were returned, but had a good taste in their mouth about the American citizens and make sure

that

we didn't close our heart to kids in cages.

And I got a lot of heat on that, but I did it by myself.

I wouldn't have joined with somebody on the left because

they don't have the same

ends and the same purposes that

I have.

They are

probably for open borders.

So I don't care what they say.

That's not my message.

My message we've got to take care of our hearts and our republic at the same time.

Listen, I think Ron Johnson knows what we're talking about and what we're saying.

And, you know, he's involved in politics at a level that I'm clearly not.

And so

maybe he feels a bit more vulnerable.

But

where I'm at, and

it's, I don't want to be here forever.

I don't, I hope things change.

But

when people are arguing that men can have babies and that the police are just out slaughtering black people indiscriminately, I can't make peace with them because

there are facts

that they're ignoring.

And so it would be like if I went to go buy some jeans and the salesperson kept saying, Jason, I really think you can get in these size 34 jeans.

for, I wouldn't deal with that salesperson.

Right.

I agree with you 100%.

I can make peace with them, but I can't not fight them.

You know, I'm not going to fight on the streets at this point with them, but I am going to, I would peacefully march on the streets against them.

And I can't have a conversation.

I just

had a conversation with Andrew Yang.

And before we started, I said, let's just go through the core principles.

Do you believe in the First Amendment and all of that it means Second Amendment, Third Amendment?

You believe in the Bill of Rights?

He said, yeah.

And I said, as written, yeah.

Okay, good.

Then we can have a conversation because I know you're shooting for the protection of rights.

And now I can look at your policies and go, but wait a minute, doesn't that infringe on this right and have an honest conversation?

Because we have something we agree on.

With the left, I don't have anything we can can agree on.

You know,

they want to change us into

what I think is a very racist

and degenerate society, and I want no part of it.

They want

that.

They want a society where elites all get along and have this wonderful life, and everybody below fights over crumbs.

And

that turned into a really ugly fight.

Jason, I think

the real problem here really is the media.

The media,

you know, they really pretty much caused all of this by not telling the truth,

by letting people loot stores, you know, two summers ago and call them mostly peaceful protests while cars and everything were burning behind them.

That lie

has just led to all kinds of problems.

Lie after lie after lie, and now they are clear and verifiable.

They've left Waukesha

completely alone.

When the same thing happened in Charleston,

they ran with that story for months.

They was even questioned in the last debate with President Trump.

I mean, they never let go of that story.

Here, not a peep on Waukesha now.

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We're going to talk to the governor, Tate Reeves.

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This is the Dobbs versus Jackson case in the Supreme Court.

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From Mississippi, the governor Tate Reeves is joining us now.

Oral arguments begin today on Dobbs versus Jackson, and he is here to tell us all about it.

Governor, how are you, sir?

Good morning, Glenn.

I'm doing great today.

I hope you are as well.

I am.

I am.

It's a good day.

I'm actually...

I'm actually very optimistic about the chances of this case after talking to your really great Attorney General, the first woman Attorney General in Mississippi's history, Lynn Finch.

Finch.

Yeah,

today is a day that many of us in the pro-life movement have been waiting for for a long time.

In fact, some even longer than I have been alive.

The Roe v.

Wade was decided, the decision came down in January of 1973.

And so for almost 50 years, Roe has been the precedent that was set.

But many of us, and I presume most of your listeners, just really believe that it was decided wrongly back in 1973.

And then you also have

the Casey case that occurred in 1992, which really helped establish the viability provision.

And we believe that was wrongly decided as well.

If you read the Constitution, And I've read it,

there is no guaranteed right to an abortion in the United States Constitution.

In fact, not only is there not a guaranteed right, there's also nothing in the U.S.

Constitution that prevents states like Mississippi and others from placing reasonable limits on those abortions.

And the case that's before the court today certainly places reasonable limits.

So

that's the thing, reasonable limits.

We are so far beyond reason.

The two countries that have

zero laws on the books to stop people from abortion.

You can abort a baby, you know, while giving birth.

It's China and North Korea.

And we are right there at that doorstep.

We are way out of line.

And this isn't an overturning of all abortion.

This was, I mean, you were the Speaker of the Mississippi Senate, if I'm not mistaken, and you brought the heartbeat bill and got that passed.

So

this is not,

well, take me through that from the beginning and how we got here.

Yeah, yeah, no, no question.

And I think your point is so

important

because

those in the abortion on demand crowd try to convince the American public that that the abortion laws in the U.S.

are mainstream across the world.

And they're just simply not.

As you correctly pointed out, the laws in California and New York with respect to abortions are more similar to China and North Korea than they are any other country around the world.

In fact, there are 42 countries in Europe, Glenn, that allow for elective abortions.

If this Mississippi law is upheld, then there will still be 39 countries

in Europe that have more restrictive abortion laws than Mississippi, which I think is one of, if not the, most conservative states in the United States.

And so this law just gets uh gets our state to a point where we are more in line with mainstream countries around the world.

My goal ultimately would be I'd love to see the court overthrow Roe v.

Wade.

That's because there is because it was wrongly ruled.

But they don't have to do that to allow this ban to go into effect.

And that would ultimately save lives.

And that's what we've been trying to do for many years is find ways in which to

pass restrictions that save babies' lives.

So you are, but I want to make sure that people understand that

if this goes, you're not arguing to ban all abortions in America.

You're saying leave it to the states to decide.

Get it out of the court system.

Leave it to the people to decide this.

So California would probably end up doing more abortions.

New York would end up doing more abortions, but you would do far less, if any.

Well,

we believe that

that's what the United States Constitution contemplates is it is the 50 labs of democracy in the state that should be making these decisions.

There's no guaranteed constitutional right to an abortion in the U.S.

Constitution.

And

our founding fathers were very

tactical and very intelligent in

saying that anything that the Constitution doesn't give explicit authority to the feds on should be decided in the individual states.

And so, no,

we're not asking the court to outlaw abortions, we're just simply asking the court to recognize that it's the individual states that should have the opportunity to set their policies based upon the will of the people in those individual states.

So the left loves to scream, my body, my choice, not when it comes to vaccines.

What is the difference here between these two?

Why is it my body my choice in one regard and not with vaccines?

And that's a great question and it's a fair question.

Here's what we've learned with respect to the vaccines.

Even Dr.

Fauci admitted on Sunday that the vaccines

are pretty effective, are very effective at keeping you from becoming hospitalized and from having a severe case.

However, what we have learned as more and more data comes out is

there is certainly individuals that are vaccinated that are are contracting the virus and there are those who are vaccinated that are spreading the virus.

And so the vaccine, in my opinion, is exceptionally helpful in reducing the severity of your case, but that gives you as an individual the ability to make your own decisions as to what's best for you and your family.

Conversely, with respect to abortions, and this is where the left just completely gets it wrong.

They want to screen my body, my choice, and completely ignore the fact that there is an additional unborn child in that womb that they are aborting and ultimately killing.

And so that is where the distinction lies is an abortion is, in my view, by definition, the killing of an innocent unborn child.

And that's when it's no longer just about your body.

It's about the body of that unborn child.

And it's why, Glenn, it's so important that people like me and people like Attorney General Fitch and other like-minded pro-life people around America stand up for that unborn child because they don't have the ability to stand up for themselves.

You know, it's interesting.

The founders really addressed this.

I was shocked when I found this out.

We have these debates in our Mercury historic vaults.

The founders talked about abortion,

but they didn't do it on a federal level.

They did it on a local level.

And

the argument was when you know it's a child, the quickening is what they called it, when you know the baby has moved and you know it's a child, you will then be causing murder.

But if you don't know that, the quickening hasn't happened and something happens, then you're okay.

But that was again for a local and state issue, not a constitutional issue, and they were very well aware of it back then.

Well, there's no doubt.

And the important point here is, here's another

example of where the left

really

is

chooses to ignore the facts.

They love to scream about following the science.

But when it comes to abortion policies, they completely ignore the science.

And the fact is, since Casey was decided in 1992, the science has changed.

Roe v.

Wade was decided in 1973, the science has certainly changed.

And the reason it has changed, when Roe was decided, we did not have sonograms.

When Roe was decided, we did not have ultrasounds.

And every single time the technology gets better, the more the science comes down on the side of protecting unborn children.

Here's what we know about a child at 15 weeks.

We know that that child has a heartbeat.

We know that that child is pumping multiple quarts of blood each day.

We know that the baby is developing its lungs.

We know that the baby can move.

We know that the baby can take its fingers and hand and open and close it.

And most importantly, perhaps, Glenn, we know that that baby can feel pain.

And because of that, we believe that

we have

an obligation to protect that unborn child.

How do you think Supreme Court's going to rule on this case?

You know, because the left is saying, oh,

this this is practically a complete

religious, zealot,

rightist court.

No, it's not.

I mean, I don't count on all, I'm not necessarily counting on John Roberts,

you know,

actually voting for this.

What do you think?

What are the odds, do you think?

Well,

I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the justices on the Supreme Court are going to

stay away from

any political considerations because that's not the role of the court.

That is the role of the legislative branch of government and that's the role of the executive branch of government is to recognize public opinion and make decisions accordingly.

But

the judicial branch's job is to is to read and interpret the Constitution and I think a simple reading of the U.S.

Constitution

shows you that there is no guaranteed right to an abortion in that document.

And there is nothing in that document that prevents the states from passing their own laws.

In fact, that is really one of the fundamental principles that this country was founded upon is that anything

that is not specifically delineated for the role of the federal government is to be handled by the states.

And so I'm optimistic for that reason.

And I know that there have been literally millions and millions and millions of Americans praying for

our legal counsel who is literally, as we speak, making these arguments before the court.

And I hope that that will continue in the coming days and weeks before the decision is handed down.

And we think it'll be months, obviously, before we ultimately get a decision.

Yeah, probably in probably in July.

Perfect for the midterms.

Governor, thank you for everything that you've done for life

and everything the state is going through right now.

It is probably the most important thing that we can do.

If we don't get ourselves on the right side of history on pretty big things like this,

you know, we are going to have a tough fight on everything else.

Thank you so much, Governor.

Thank you so much for having me on, Glenn.

Have a great day.

You too.

Governor Tate Reeves from Mississippi.

You might want to say a prayer now for the legal team.

They are in the Supreme Court right now doing oral arguments.

And this could be a big one.

This could be a big one.

Yes, Stu?

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I'd be interested in hearing how you think the individual justices are going to vote.

I have no idea.

Let me give you a rundown and you tell me where you disagree or agree.

Okay.

Will they overturn Roe versus Wait completely?

Let's not play with the gray area here.

Will they overturn it completely?

No.

So let me give you the justices.

Solid, no, they will not overturn it.

Kagan, Breyer, Sodomayor.

Yes.

So three.

Got it.

Solid yes, they will overturn it.

Thomas and Alito.

Yes.

Okay.

So three to two.

Leaning yes to overturn, I have Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett.

I would say Amy.

I'm not sure about Gorsuch.

Okay.

That's leaning.

Not sure.

Leaning no, I say Roberts.

I think that's a no.

You think he's a solid no?

Overturning Roe versus Wade?

Yeah.

Solid no.

Okay.

Solid no.

So if you take the leaners and the solids,

let's put Gorsuch into the toss-up because you're not sure on him.

That puts us at four

to

one, two, three, four, no, and one, two, three, yes.

Yeah.

So that leaves

you to decide it.

You need both of them.

They will not overturn it.

Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.

They will not overturn it.

I think you get Gorsuch.

See, the difference between Roberts and Gorsuch is Gorsuch is very bold in that Gorsuch is like, hey, if I have to like overturn this huge thing because I think I'm right, I'll do it.

Right?

Like we've, and we've seen the bad side of that on a couple of rulings, but he is not, he's not a wuss, right?

Well, it's, here's what, here's the problem is it's not a wuss that Roberts is.

Roberts.

He feels his job is to protect the sanctity of the court.

But that's what I think a wuss is, right?

A wuss is like he's making these decisions.

He may very well think Roe versus Wade is terrible law, but he wants to protect the reputation of the court.

Right.

So he'll try to find

the reputation of the court.

His decision on Obamacare destroyed the reputation of the court.

I totally agree with this.

But like, he's the type of person who will say, if this court is seen as the, you know, taking away women's rights, we will lose our

high stature and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So I don't think he's going to want to do that.

That's why I have him leaning no.

I think, honestly, he probably does see it as really a terrible decision, as most, anyone who's even familiar with a conservative argument, I think, does.

So Kavanaugh and Gorsuch,

I think Gorsuch will be on the right side of this.

I could be wrong.

I think he will be.

I think Kavanaugh is the guy.

To me, I think Kavanaugh is the one that turns this either way.

Now, Amy Coney Barrett

has not really said a lot on this.

I mean, we're we're doing some on faith with her, though she has written some critiques of Roe versus Wade that would make you think that she's familiar.

Obviously, we would not have been excited about her as a justice if we did not think she'd be on the right side of this particular case.

So, I think she'll be okay.

I think Gorsuch will be okay on it too.

Again, I could be wrong on that.

Kavanaugh's the one, though.

Kavanaugh acts a lot like Roberts.

But the question is not throwing away Roe versus Wade.

That's what I want.

And I want more than

I want more than that, frankly.

I want them to say it should be illegal everywhere.

I agree with that, but

I don't think this is going to happen.

I think this is going to be a good step in that direction.

I think

I think

what we should be hoping for, I mean, we could always hope for that, but I don't think that's going to happen for many reasons.

But taking a huge step back and saying states have the right to decide, that's game changing.

But that is overturning Roe versus Wade.

That's what that is.

States have the chance to decide.

And that's what it should.

I mean, that is not what it should be.

I keep saying that.

It is not what it should be.

However, when it comes to this particular ruling, overturning it and throwing it back to the states is probably the best we could possibly hope for.

And,

you know, I just don't, I don't know if we're going to get it.

I think you're more likely to get something in that gray area where they allow the Mississippi law, but still have a pretty significant limit on how far you can go.

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Stu and I have been debating this back and forth.

You know,

overturning Roe versus Wade is not the same as banning all abortions.

And

my feeling is, if you would ban all abortions, you'd have a civil war because the left, A, wants one,

and B, they're a death cult.

They are an absolute death cult.

And they will fall on their sword on this one.

If you take the right to kill babies away from the left, you will have the same reaction that the right would have if you said no guns in the hands of citizens.

They won't stand for it.

You know, one's to protect life.

The other one is to kill.

And they are such a death cult, that's what you'd have.

I don't think there's a chance.

that that's not even what they're arguing about in this uh in this case but we'll give you more

as we go on.

I wanted to bring our good friend, Dr.

Everett Piper, in.

He is the author of a book, Grow Up.

He was, when I first met him, he was the president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University, and he wrote this great op-ed

for his university.

And it's like, Grow Up.

This is not a safe space.

It shouldn't be a safe space.

And I've been a fan of his ever since.

Everett, how are you, sir?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on your show.

Yeah.

So I want to talk to you a little bit about

the caudal culture.

And I want to start with the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict.

He's now not going to be going to Arizona University

because the students don't want him there.

They've demanded that he is not going, and so he's not going there.

What happens to a society when it's mob rule and even if you've been found not guilty, you don't get a second chance?

Well, this is just another symptom of the disease of the radical promotion of narcissism and selfishness, this juvenile temper tantrum that has been taught to our progeny from our pulpits and from our podiums.

I mean, we've been preaching this self-esteem nonsense for decades in the church, and we've been teaching the same nonsense in our schools and we shouldn't be surprised to wake up today and find that we're being ruled by an angry group of juveniles who aren't getting their own way and want to be comfortable rather than confronted.

They don't want to have freedom.

They'd rather have safety.

And if you compromise their sense of self-esteem, they're going to shout you down.

They're going to throw a temper tantrum and they're going to cancel you and they're going to get you expelled.

And Kyle Rittenhouse is just just the most recent victim of that movement.

You know, I said in my not a daycare piece that you broke back in 2015, that if you're teaching selfishness and self-absorption at our campuses and in our schools, don't be surprised when all of a sudden you've got a self-absorbed culture, a canceled culture of perpetual children who are not going to permit anyone to even be in their presence that they don't like.

And Rittenhouse is just the newest example of that.

And by the way, Glenn, he was enrolled as an online student, and they still said that he makes us feel unsafe.

We feel uncomfortable because this man is a bloodthirsty killer, and we don't want him at our campus.

He was online, my land, and they still are going to silence them.

It's not about safety.

It is about control.

And it is about ideological fascism rather than intellectual freedom.

So these people are just getting into the workforce now.

You know, they're in their 30s.

They're into the workforce.

These people are going to be running our country.

I mean, how do we reverse this?

Well, the only way you can reverse this is to have a revival, to reform

and return.

Revival, reform, return, restoration.

All of those words imply that you're going in one direction and you need to make a 180 and go back in the other direction toward true north.

And that is what our culture must recognize, that we have to return to truth as the measuring rod of those things being measured or we can do no measuring.

That's a paraphrase of C.S.

Lewis.

The solution to the problem right now is to stop elevating lies and to start recognizing that there's something that is true above your feelings, your emotions, your passions, your desires, and your your proclivities.

All those feelings, desires, passions, and proclivities are childish in nature.

They're not the way adults have traditionally functioned.

We need to grow up and recognize that life isn't supposed to be safe.

It's supposed to be good, and that goodness is defined by God, not you.

And in fact, even this case in the Supreme Court right now, it's the exact same thing.

They want to redefine what it means to be a human.

They want to elevate themselves as God and and decide what's human and what's not.

And they're deciding that the youngest and most vulnerable among us are not human.

They're deciding what the human being is.

They've elevated themselves to be as God.

Did you see what happened in France with the Cathedral of Notre Dame, where they are building that into a social justice center where one chapel is for the environment, one chapel is for equity?

I mean, it is, I really think that, you know, people have feared one world government and one world religion.

I think we have the one world religion forming right now.

Well, and I think France tried this once before.

Yeah.

They might want to refresh their memory on

Diderot and Robespierre.

And the end result of all of that was what?

The guillotine.

Blood flowed in the streets.

They did not get liberty.

They got tons and tons of despotic law being imposed upon them to the point that even the advocates of the French Revolution, the leaders, Robespierre in particular, lost his head because of the rule of the gang and the mob that rose up.

How concerned are you about

the daycares that if this bill is passed, this Build Back Better bill,

our kids are going to be in school from almost birth to, you know, 24 years old.

Well, you know that I've written recently that, you know, all these people calling for our schools to open back up.

You know, we got to get our kids back in the schools.

We got to get our kids back into the classrooms.

Why?

Why?

Ideas have consequences.

And if the ideas that we're teaching in our schools are bad, then maybe those schools aren't the best place for our children.

If we're going to continue to teach, for example, social-emotional learning, S-E-L, which is just another way to get critical race theory and BLM and classical Marxism indoctrinated into your kids at the earliest age, if SEL is the curriculum, which it is, in most schools across the land, then why in the world would any good parent want his kids in those schools?

So

most people have heard of critical race theory now.

What is SEL?

SEL is pervasive.

You go check out your local school and ask them if they have social-emotional learning as part of their curriculum.

The answer is going to be yes.

Yes.

SEL is nothing but a regurgitation of the self-esteem movement overlaid with socialism, communism, and Marxism, and now salted with the LGBTQIACRTSJWBLM alphabet soup of nonsense.

So wait a minute.

So how does SEL manifest itself

as

critical race theory?

Can you give me any of the

obvious points here?

Okay, well, let me go.

This doesn't necessarily hit critical race theory, but it kind of does.

So let me start with this one.

In Oklahoma, we are the reddest of red states.

Not one county has gone blue in four successive presidential elections.

So you would think that we've got our head on straight in Oklahoma, right?

Wrong.

In our schools, on our state education department website, we actually promote SEL unapologetically.

We say it.

And if you go one or two clicks in, and I've done this personally, you can find a tab within the SEL curriculum webpage on our state education home site.

You can find a

tab that says, how to engage in your first time.

Okay?

That is a tab that specifically tells your sons and daughters how to engage in sex their first time and do so with self-esteem and self-respect.

That is an example of what

SEL, social emotional learning, teaches your kids.

It's the LGBTQIA SJW CRT alphabet soup of subjective identity and emotion over rationality that's pervasive in your schools.

I have kids that are looking at colleges now.

What do I do, Everett?

What do I do?

Well, I think you need to do, first of all, you need to exercise your right as a consumer.

And frankly, and I was a college president, I know that you're in the driver's seat.

All the colleges want your kids because

they're in financial straits right now, even the state universities.

They want more students, more money.

So you're in the driver's seat.

So demand a meeting with the president, number one.

And if he won't meet with you, don't go there.

You're spending too much money if the president won't attend to your questions.

What questions should you ask?

Ask him what his view of truth is.

Just be quiet and listen.

Is truth an objective reality?

Is it something that's out there to learn and acquire and embrace?

Or is it a postmodern construct of nothing but opinions, you know, constructed by culture and society?

If truth isn't an objective reality at that institution, do not go there.

Ask him what his view of life is.

Does God define life or does the human being?

Does society?

Does culture define life?

If he says that anything other than God defines human life, then don't go there.

Ask him what his view of marriage is.

Is marriage defined by government or by God?

Ask him what his view of scripture is.

Is the Bible inerrant, infallible, authoritative, and true?

Or is it nothing but an interesting book of literature?

These are litmus test questions that you should be asking.

And today, a hot one is, what's your view of critical race theory?

Should we judge people by the content of their character or the color of their skin?

Ask good questions, be quiet, and then run the other direction if you don't get the right answers.

I don't need to ask questions.

I don't need to ask about half of those questions to most university presidents.

I think I could probably guess their answer.

But Dr.

Piper, thank you so much for being on with us.

The book that

he has out was released, I think, in April.

It's Grow Up.

Life isn't safe, but it's good.

Well, well worth the read.

Grow up by Dr.

Edward Edward.

Sorry, Dr.

Everett Piper.

Thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

That guy is so clear on his thoughts.

He is really somebody that just can really cut through all the crap.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

Tonight on the Glenbeck Wednesday night special, one you don't want to miss.

There's a five-step plan to overthrow a nation.

It's Bolshevik, and it is

to try to do it without so much bloodshed.

And I've talked about it before.

I'm going to talk about it a little bit tonight, but it is, you know, it's how they're turning Main Street into Gotham City.

And there is a method to this madness.

The media is part of it.

And they're running interference in one of the largest misinformation operations in history.

And we're exposing it tonight, and we're using a couple of examples to where they have completely lied and are now doubling down.

You have to see that tonight.

And I'm also going to be on your show talking about abortion, right?

Yeah.

I mean, we were discussing this a little earlier about what the political outcomes might be.

And even more than that, what does the left do if Roe versus Wade is overturned?

We'll get into that with Glenn on Studios America tonight.

And it's 8 p.m.

Eastern on Bolice TV.

Also, there was a story that broke yesterday, and we haven't had a chance to get to it.

We have to get to it tomorrow.

It's about new nanobot technology where the nanobots

can self-replicate.

And they're made of flesh.

And they're made of flesh.

We should point out, they're made out of frog, some part of a frog.

Yeah.

So that's really good news.

Now, here's why they developed it.

It's something very, very important.

Can you explain?

Can you break it down into layman's terms?

Yeah,

they wanted to see if they could do it.

So they've done it, and there's no reason other than we want to see if we can make something out of flesh that will be a nanobot technology that will self-replicate.

What could go wrong?

I think this might be something we should sit down and talk about as a nation.

Some of these experiments, they were like, yeah, you know, the nuclear bomb thing.

If a bunch of guys were just getting together in the desert and going, let's see if we can blow crap up.

Yeah.

And they did that, that would probably be wrong.

Yeah, I think so.

Especially coming off of the last couple of years where gain of function research has drawn some attention.

Perhaps the conversation around

risky types of research that we don't understand the consequences should be a tad more robust.

Maybe it is.

There's a lot of scientists that are talking about that just about AI and AGI.

Should we be doing this?

This is a really bad idea.

And everybody's response is, well, somebody's going to do it.

Well, yeah, maybe we should have some parameters that we, as human beings, say, thou shalt not cross.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Interesting idea, Glenn.

What a radical thought.

Yeah.

You know, you're really out on a limb on that one.

I know, I know.

But hey, let's talk about the latest It Girl.