Best of The Program | Guests: Carol Roth, Andrew Crapuchettes, & Nathan Nipper | 11/16/21

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Author Carol Roth joins to discuss the rising inflation and how to prepare for the upcoming shortages. A parallel economy is being formed, and Andrew Crapuchettes, CEO of RedBalloon, joins to share how being fired for his beliefs led him to forge his own path. Nathan Nipper, writer and researcher for Glenn Beck, joins to discuss his new book, “Life on Christmas Eve.”
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So, I know the media is denying it, but the economy is going through some trouble with inflation.

It is about to get worse.

We go through all of that.

Plus, we tell you about all of the new plans that Biden has.

I was really excited about the new accessories to cars, Stu.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Makes me want to run out and buy a new car right now.

By the way, it's not an accessory.

It's not an extra.

You will have to have the car

give you a breathalyzer in three years on all new cars.

Another reason we should shoot for Cuba and just recycle our old cars.

Also, we have more on COVID and a couple of examples of people who are standing up and helping you stand up all on today's podcast.

You're listening to

the best of the blend back program.

Well, this is great.

This is great.

Yesterday, I told you about the LA ports that they were going to

start assessing fines,

which would have cost in the tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars within a week.

The officials have delayed that until November 22nd.

So that's good.

That's really good.

We got that going for us.

California gas prices hit a record for a second consecutive day.

They're banning drilling near New Mexico's, what is it, Chaco Canyon?

Goya says...

Near is a little bit of a stretch, too.

What is it, 10 miles?

I guess that's near if you're driving a car quickly.

Yeah, well, if you're going to the sun, the moon is near, too.

The

Goya says with with inflation,

they're going to have to hike their prices.

Nestle says they're hiking their prices.

Tyson Foods says they're going to hike their prices.

Kraft, they're hiking their prices by 20%.

IBM says inflation fears could trigger some chaos.

Huh.

Interesting.

Interesting choice of words there.

General Motors revoking heat seat option due to chip shortage.

So even the cars you are going to get are not going to be the car that you necessarily want.

But that's all part of the process.

We have to expect less.

Carol Roth is the author of The War on Small Business.

If you want to know what happened in COVID and how this is all playing out for the average person,

make sure you read The War on Small Business.

She's a former Wall Street investment banker.

Turned to Jesus

and

started going, wait, nobody's really caring about the small business.

Carol Roth is with us now.

Hi, Carol.

How are you?

Hey, glad are doing well.

How are you?

Very good.

So last time you were on, we talked about, you know, preparing.

And

I asked you specifically about

you know, gas and oil and natural gas for heat.

And we've had some updates and

I wanted to get your thoughts on this.

Sala Omarova has come out and said that she wants oil, gas and coal companies to go bankrupt for climate change.

And I think that is the plan from the left and this administration.

That's not radical to them.

Do you believe that?

The fact that somebody like Ms.

Omarova could be considered to be that near to our money supply and decision making is absolutely indicative of the fact that we should all be very concerned, saying things aloud.

I mean, this is this used to be the quiet part.

Now they're just saying it out loud, saying things like we should bankrupt oil and gas and particularly the small guys

in pursuit of climate change and climate justice.

Saying things like we should be getting rid of private banks so that they could so we could all deposit our money with the Federal Reserve.

I mean this is a woman who was trained at the University of Moscow, and her thesis that was about Karl Marx and capital, the sole copy has magically disappeared from the Internet.

So if that gives you any sense of the kinds of thought process that's going on.

But yeah, I mean, it's interesting.

I'm not sure.

how much of this is sort of an evil plan versus central planning stupidity, but it really doesn't matter, does it?

Because the outcome is always going to be the same, whether it's intentional or just because they think they know better.

We're the ones that pay the economic damage.

And it's not only in proactive, you know, additional dollars that need to be spent to convert to things that we

may not want or need, but it's lost productivity and it's the taking away of choice and the impact on our individual lives that happen when a handful of people think they know better than the free market

in terms of what we're doing.

And certainly we're seeing that in the energy arena from everything from the administration to what they've done more broadly with this quote-unquote ESG investing.

We have John Kerry saying every coal plant in America will be closed down by 2030.

I think that's an impossible

standard to keep and

would

end in massive, massive blackouts and brownouts.

Am I right on that or not?

Did you look into this?

I did look into this.

It's interesting.

Usually when I go out and talk to experts in areas that are not 100% core to my expertise, and I say, you know, I'd like to give you credit on air if I talk about this.

Usually you get the, okay, you know, here's how you credit me.

Everyone's like, no, no, I don't want to talk about this, but let me tell you what happened.

Just don't use my name.

And

this is across the country.

So this isn't just a California issue, which obviously is leading the nation.

But even experts out of Texas, people who are monitoring the electric grid, are incredibly concerned about brownouts or blackouts.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

In the future or now?

Now.

Now.

Already.

So forget about 2030, but now, because we're not making the level of investments to keep what we do have up in this push for transition,

we want to have maintenance of what we already have, and that's becoming more and more difficult.

And obviously, we're seeing it just countrywide in terms of our energy dependence.

So I have been told reliably, again, even in Texas, that you want to have a backup source of power.

And I have been told almost everybody said either a propane diesel or combo generator is something that you're going to want to have because you know in a state for example like Texas the quote was once the state loses power it will take a minimum of two weeks to restore plants back to operations and customers able to use grid power again

so you know this this isn't something that you know we've got nine years or whatever to be thinking about We should be planning it and preparing now.

So you have this, it's worse in California because you can't buy the generators, right?

You can't use diesel generators or gas power generators.

I think that

depending on which city you are located in and,

you know, kind of

like where you are within the state, I mean, I think you still can get in certain places like a propane-based generator, but they are starting, you know, whether it's the limitation of natural gas and new construction, taking gas out of commercial kitchens.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Taking natural gas out of kitchens?

Commercial kitchens.

Oakland's already put this in effect.

A number of cities are doing this.

The California Restaurant Association filed a suit on behalf of restaurants, and it was dismissed.

So if you want to have your natural gas cooked, walk food or burgers or whatnot,

you can't do that anymore in certain cities.

And so they are completely taking away

even just the ability to cook certain types of foods because they want to make sure that you only have an electric hookup.

And

I'm not a chef, Glenn.

I know this is going to surprise you.

I'm not the most domestic gal out there.

But even I know that there's certain things that you're not going to be wanting to cook on an electric stove.

That's unbelievable.

Okay, so

diesel propane, or combo generator as a backup.

We should all be looking at that.

I mean,

solar is unreasonable, completely unreasonable.

I mean, I have solar at my house, and I'm completely off the grid, and that has cost me a fortune.

No average person can

go there.

And that's with a diesel backup and a natural gas backup.

Yeah, unfortunately,

the technology isn't there for what the proponents of it would like for it to be.

Not to say that it might not be in the future, but we're not there.

And that's the problem:

they're trying to push us in a direction where we're just not prepared for it, and it's going to create issues

on a financial and personal level for people.

And who's going to end up suffering the most?

Of course, it's going to be the middle class.

I'm sure that the folks who are the most poor will get some sort of benefit from the government.

And if you're super wealthy, they'll

figure out some workaround for you.

But this is, once again, something that the middle class is going to end up bearing the costs of.

And by the way, the costs that they're estimating are out of this world.

And those are just the dollars that we're putting out, not economic damage or personal damage.

You know, I've seen anywhere from $5 to $10 trillion on the lowest side, which we know that that's never going to be the case, to north of $90 trillion in some of these estimates.

And we know the financial engineering that they always do, that, oh, well, we're just going to look at it at a certain period of time.

So, you know, if you look at it over a long period of time, it's a ton of money.

This is a ton of money towards something that a lot of people don't want.

And if they really cared about the environment, we'd be looking at things like carbon recapture technology and nuclear energy and all these things that we know America can lead on instead of forcing an agenda that all of these folks are probably invested in, and that's probably why they're pushing it

for them to be making money at the expense of, by the way, the red states, which are heavily invested in fossil fuels.

No coincidence there.

Carol,

what are we looking at for inflation?

Do you think?

I mean, how long before it is so bad that everyone is screaming in pain?

Well, so the challenge and sort of the,

I hate to use the smart thing, let's say the evil thing that they've done is that it's going to affect different people differently.

And I think that's part of why they've been trying to sell that this is not happening.

You know, we first heard it's not going to happen.

It's going to run a little bit hot.

It's quote-unquote transitory, which anyone who's been listening to me knows I've been saying this whole time.

Of course, it's not.

And now they're they're trying to sell you that it's a good thing.

Oh, you know,

you're going to be able to buy a $4,000 suit.

Good for you.

And you're going to spend less now because you won't be able to afford things.

And so

we'll stop being this consumer nation.

Yeah, that was a good thing.

That's just exactly what we all wanted to do.

It's unfortunate.

So the issue here is that because of all of the money printing that's happened and all the stimulus that has increased inflation, it has increased asset value.

So if you own a house or a bunch of houses, if you have a huge stock portfolio, if you've had access to capital to debt capital to go out and buy these big assets, those assets are going to probably continue to inflate in price because there's all of these dollars out there and they need to go somewhere.

But if you are in the middle middle class again or if you're poorer and you need to go out and buy the things that your family needs to live,

the food to put on your table and the gas to get to work, this is, you know, it's already really painful.

And unfortunately, the elites in the media who are supposed to be pointing this out and acting as a check and balance are now laughing at the average American and saying, oh, why do you need to drink that much milk?

Or, you know, maybe you should cut back on your expenditures instead of holding the people who are creating these policies to task.

And then, oh, by the way,

they just signed a $1.2 trillion bill yesterday and are trying to spend trillions more and then selling us on, oh, yeah, that's going to bring down inflation.

Like, I don't know, that didn't show up in any of my economics classes, of course.

But, you know, it's a really bad situation.

And it's kind of like what happened in COVID, right?

When they shut down small businesses, but they kept the big businesses open, even though the average people were screaming because because those who were connected were benefiting, nothing happened.

And I see the same kind of split and great consolidation of power and wealth, as I've been calling it.

And

some of this, even if you fix some of the supply chain, things like the wage increases, those aren't going to slow down.

You can't pay somebody $20 an hour today to start, and then three months from now, think you're going to be paying entry-level people $7.

It's not going to happen.

CarolRoth.com, CarolRoth.com.

Her latest book is The War on Small Business.

Carol Roth.com.

Thanks, Carol.

I'll talk to you again.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

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Welcome to Tuesday.

You know, Stu and I were just talking off air.

It is really sad,

but also I'm really happy that this is happening.

It's sad that it has to be this way.

But there is a parallel economy that is being built now.

People are realizing what is coming, and they are starting to build banks and insurance companies that will be

outside of the system because they're just going to make it impossible for anybody to have any money, any loans, to do anything

that they want unless you play along.

And we're already seeing this now in our own businesses.

And I think there's a great opportunity

to get really good employees right now.

If you're working in a company where they're telling you you have to get vaccinated, You have to go through that

whites are all evil

seminar.

What if you don't want to?

Where do you go to work?

I want to introduce you to a guy who was in this very position,

except he was, I mean, he's been in the high-tech industry for 20 years.

He was in Silicon Valley.

Then he became the CEO and founding member of MC,

which was a consulting company of three employees.

And he turned it into an international economic data firm with over 250 employees nationwide but he had a problem he was a Christian CEO and I guess that wasn't wasn't something in the cards for the company anymore

and so he started a new business that I think is fantastic we talked about it I think last week his name is Andrew

Krapushetz

and he is on with us now.

Hello, Andrew.

Hey, good morning, Glenn.

Thank you very much.

And kudos on pronouncing my name.

It is a terrifying name

in the air.

Yeah, when you're on the air and you see this,

you know, I had to make sure I looked at it again to make sure I got it right.

Crappy Shetz.

It's true.

It's Crappy Shetz.

You must have had a horrible childhood with the name Crappy Shetz.

Yeah, you either have a horrible childhood or you just lean into it and you really enjoy it.

Right, okay.

And everybody thinks they've thought of the best new joke for that name.

And I'll tell you right now, I've heard them all.

Yeah, I bet you have.

And none of those jokes could be said on the air.

So let's move on.

Is it correct

from your name?

Okay, so, Andrew, I saw this story, I think, last week, and we reached out to you right away because I think what you're doing is

right on the money.

First of all, tell me how it ended with you and the company.

Why did you leave?

Yeah.

So again, I've been in the tech space for a while.

I've also, I've started a bunch of companies because I also believe that

as Christians, we serve a creator God, and so we are little creators.

And so we should look for ways that we can create things that we can then use to turn around and bless other people.

So I've started.

a variety of businesses and obviously the most recent and full disclosure I'm still an advisor to the board,

but for me to be involved in the day-to-day was just not palatable.

So

we ended, and part of it is it was clear to me it was time to move on anyway.

And there's two reasons for this.

As I've been deep in the tech world and have a lot of friends in Seattle and Portland and San Francisco and on that West Coast crazies,

I saw them using their company's platform to push on a woke worldview uh using their company's platform to in the last election cycle say you must vote for joe biden this is the most important election ever and it's like i i thought you were a software company not a political advocacy company correct but it became clear that a lot of the people especially in the tech world were using their company to do this and then we saw i saw a lot of my fellow employees who are just and not fellow employees but fellow uh colleagues around the country, just keeping their head down.

And what's funny is when I started Red Balloon, a lot of people who are executives wrote me and said, you know, I love what you're doing, but I can't like what you're doing because, if you know what I mean.

Yeah.

Because I can't have anyone know that I'm a conservative.

And my word to them is, look, there's a lot of conservatives and Christians out there.

And I think it's time to raise the pirate flag or the Christian flag and simply say, this is who I am

and be unashamed of that.

And so

if you don't,

we lose.

We lose.

We have to stand and stand together.

And I don't mind standing with other people that don't share my belief, but they currently mind me.

And I'm not going to,

why can you say all of this crazy stuff that I disagree with?

And I don't have to even,

I don't want to talk about it, honestly.

I don't want to talk about it anymore.

Can we just do our work?

But you can't live in that world now.

It's not good enough.

You must participate.

Yeah, and absolutely.

And if you don't, then you get fired.

And I had a good friend who lost his job because he didn't use the right pronoun.

So the vaccine

issue is obviously the most recent and pressing for a lot of people because you have to put it in your your body.

But they have been pushing this for a long time, whether it's CRT, whether it's the right pronouns.

And I think it is time for conservatives and Christians to stand up because the reality is that these conservatives, all of you who are listening, are the hardest workers.

You're the people who are making the company go.

And so I started Red Balloon partly because of this wokeness in the workplace and partly because I saw this enormous gap in the labor market where we simply don't have enough people to get all the work done.

And the administration, the Biden administration, has seen fit to demotivate people to actually participate in the labor market.

And now, with a vaccine mandate, to tell them they're not allowed to participate in the labor market.

So, we have an unprecedented tight labor market.

We have an economy that's trying to get going, but simply is not allowed to.

And I think you're spot on.

We need to start creating these alternative economies because I'll tell you, it is really fun to be an unapologetic, conservative Christian and a public one.

And I encourage everyone out there, it's time to raise your hands, raise your head, raise the pirate flag, and come out.

was talking on a different show yesterday and I thought we need to start using the hashtag coming out conservative

and just tell people, you know, start proclaiming who you are and it's okay and we don't need to turn into all of us be political advocates because I don't think that's necessarily the right thing either.

But I do think it's an opportunity to just be unapologetic about who you are and what you believe.

Yeah, I don't want to become an activist.

I mean, I kind of am now, but I don't want to become an activist.

I just like to work in places where...

you know, even if you disagree, nobody's going to get fired for it.

Nobody's going to get fired for it.

Let's just be human beings to each other.

So you started Red Balloon, and

how is this going?

Yeah, no, so Redballoon.work

has blown me away because I've started a number of businesses before.

And I'll tell you, Glenn, I've never been part of a business before where I get unsolicited thank you notes from perfect strangers all over the country literally every day.

People just saying, thank you for standing up for freedom.

And that's my encouragement to all of you listening is stand up for freedom.

And you'd be surprised.

There's a lot of people who want to follow that.

So I started RedBalloon.work three months ago and we now have had over 400,000 people on the site looking for freedom.

We have over 1,200 employers who have signed up and every single day we have tens of thousands of job searches on the site.

It's still new and I want to have millions of jobs.

But I've been super encouraged by this.

And we've also just seen an overwhelming amount of support from people.

Like someone

sent me a thank you note and said, hey, would you like a billboard in Times Square?

And a side note, if someone asks you that, the answer is yes.

And so Red Balloon has a billboard in Times Square and will through the end of the year because they said, look, this is an important moment and we need to stand up for freedom.

So there are powerful people out there who maybe aren't ready to raise their pirate flag, but they're definitely behind the cause.

I will tell you this, too, that it's really important that

business people, if you're looking for a job,

I hear from people all the time that are living behind, you know, the

iron curtain in the east of our country, and

they want out, but

they can't move without a job.

They have to have a job.

And how do you know?

And I encourage everyone, every company that is taking a stand to register and become part of this.

And when you have a job opening, open it up to redballoon.work and let's get people working together.

Absolutely.

Because what you do as an employer is you're not only getting access to really the best kind of workers, right?

The workers who aren't

an HR nightmare, who are constantly complaining, you're getting people who just want to focus on work, which is phenomenal.

So the best kind of workers, but you're also giving encouragement to millions of Americans and saying, look, you're not the only one.

Because the liberal media today desperately wants us all to believe that we're the only one that believes the way we do and that we're all crazy.

And the more people, especially employers, who stand up and say, no, I'm going to put my logo on here, I talked to one CEO who said, look,

I have been keeping my head down as a conservative Christian for years, but I feel like if I don't die on this hill, there might not be any left.

I agree.

And so it's time.

I agree.

Well, thank you very much, Andrew.

I appreciate it.

That's Andrew Krapuchetz, the founder and CEO of Red Balloon, RedBalloon.work.

Redballoon.work.

Let's get the people who want to work and just want to move on with their lives.

Let's get them working.

As Andrew just said, it's the best kind of employee.

Redballoon.work.

Thanks, Andrew.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

One of the guys who works with me, he is one of our researchers and writers.

And we've worked together for many years now, and he's a salt of the earth kind of guy.

knows his history really well.

His name is Nathan Nipier, I believe.

It's close.

Or Nathan Nipper.

That's what it is.

Nathan Nipper.

I've heard of him.

Nathan Nipper.

How are you, Nathan?

Good.

So Nathan has written a book, and he brought it to me about a year ago.

And I didn't know all of the story at the time that you brought it.

I didn't know the backstory, but you were working here years before I came here.

Yeah,

before Mercury Studios was

even a glint in your eye.

This is way back in 2008, 2009.

I guess you were doing your Fox show at the time.

And yeah, I worked for a separate media company that was housed in the studio building.

And

so in the aftermath of that 2008 financial crisis,

this company that I was working for started having some financial problems of their own.

You know, they were having trouble making payroll.

Yeah.

And

sort of long, longish story shorter,

I had done some minor league screenwriting, you know, early in my career.

And this particular story that is now this book, I wrote as a screenplay, and I really needed a sale at the time because they were having trouble making payroll.

Right.

And came really close.

I thought it was going to happen.

The agent that I was working with at the time, she was very enthusiastic about it, made it to the final level at this cable network that shall

remain nameless.

Not to you, but to the rest of us.

It did not happen.

I was crushed.

It didn't happen because

it references it's a wonderful life.

Yeah, I mean,

that's true.

The sort of the reasoning, and you never know these things.

The screenwriting business is

very horrible.

But

yeah, that was one of the final, you know, the final decision maker was like, well, you kind of have to know too much about that movie, you know, to understand what's going on.

And that was sort of their excuse.

And nobody knows it.

Who knows anything about it?

It's a wonderful life.

That's what the agent said at the time.

And I was like, I know, that's a deal.

Everybody knows this movie.

So the book is out today, and

you wrote it, and then you put the story away.

You came to work for me, right?

Yeah.

It's overwhelming, honestly,

the fact that I'm here sitting in this building again talking to you because it's really, this book represents, I mean, this is God's kindness, God's paying attention to the details of our lives, you know, and redeeming things that you think is hopeless, situations that you think are hopeless.

Because, yeah, I mean, I actually, because I wasn't getting paid at the time, and I stayed on at that media company in the hopes that it was going to turn around while I'm applying to other jobs, you know, and then I had that rejection of the script sale.

And so I stayed late in actually, it's in the office where Stu's producer works now.

I sit up there for a few hours one night, just cranked out the first chapter thinking, could I turn this into a book?

And then I was like, no, I don't have time for this.

You know, I got a third child was on the way at the time.

not getting paid.

I mean, it was a desperate situation, you know?

And so I did the old proverbial put it in a drawer and didn't touch it for years.

So I finally did six years ago is when I cranked out the first draft of this book just before I started working with you.

And it kind of melts my brain that I'm now back in the studio that I had sworn off working in media.

Seriously.

I had walked away from the industry.

You know,

the book starts kind of like the George Bailey thing, jumping from a bridge.

And I think that that has nothing to do with it's a wonderful life.

That's Nathan going,

why did I go back and work for him?

I could jump off.

Yeah.

Because you had made, some of your scripts had been made into movies before.

This is not like you weren't just like, it wasn't like a shot in the dark.

That's true.

And I say minor league because it was, I guess, basic cable.

You know, it's probably double-A-ball or whatever.

Yeah.

So I've done.

It wasn't totally random.

I had done that before.

And so that's why I thought, oh, there's a chance here, you know, maybe this is going to go through.

So, Nathan, tell me the story

quickly.

It's called Life on Christmas Eve, a novel by Nathan Nipper.

Right.

The French pronunciation.

Yes.

Life on Christmas Eve.

It's available now, and I've read it.

It's really, really good.

You're going to love it.

But tell the story.

It's basically about a 31-year-old small-town woman who watches It's a Wonderful Life for the very first time.

And shortly after she does, she starts to notice some unusual similarities between things that happen to her and things that happen in the movie.

And so essentially her quest to figure out why these things might be happening and what it might mean, if anything, leads to this life-changing encounter with a stranger on Christmas Eve.

And she starts out, she's not watched the movie.

Right, right.

She's never seen it.

And she's one of those millennials that turn up their noses at

black and white movies.

It is interesting that the reason initially the movie wasn't made is because someone might not know enough about It's a Wonderful Life.

That's actually the story of the book, too.

Right, right.

She learns about it all the way through.

Remember this scene?

No, I never watched it.

I mean, it's a pretty

disproved your own case for the movie.

Right.

Initially, it's, you know, I, it's one of my all-time favorite movies.

It's still a classic.

I mean, it's a genuinely great movie.

And so it was fun to sort of work in this homage to use it as kind of a device

to tell a different story.

I like the juxtaposition of the time back then that the movie took place

and now, because we seem like a much harsher

society.

Oh, yeah.

I mean,

you know, if the pandemic showed us anything, it's a pandemic of a lack of grace, I feel like.

Yeah.

And in our culture, it's something grace is something that we all want for ourselves, but are loath to give to other people so often.

And so, I mean, that's one of the themes of the book is

undeserved grace in some of the relationships that the main character has.

How much does God play a role in all of this?

In the book or my overall personal story?

Personal story

and getting it where it is.

Oh, yeah.

It's a total God thing.

I mean,

it really almost makes me emotional to consider when I walked out of this building 12 years ago.

It was a hopeless situation.

You know,

people were hiring.

I needed, was looking for a job, had a baby on the way.

For him to redeem my experience here, because again, I had sworn off media.

And then to come back.

You were teachers.

Yeah, I completely left, turned my back.

I was never going to work in media again because of the bitterness of that experience.

And then that he would bring me back to the same building and totally redeem it.

I mean, this has been the best working experience of my life.

Wow, you've led a sad one.

It is.

And that he would redeem that is

really humbling to me.

Well, I would like you to pick up the brand new book.

It's available on Amazon.

Also, you can go to Glenbeck.com, and I have read

the first chapter.

So if you want to hear the first chapter, we read it and produced it.

Don't say I ever gave you anything.

I am thrilled, thrilled.

I wish I could have read the whole book for you.

But the first chapter is available now at Glenbeck.com.

And check it out.

You can also get it there by just following the links.

It's called Life on Christmas Eve, something that you might want to start next week to put you in the right frame of mind for Christmas.

Life on Christmas Eve, a new novel by Nathan Nipper.

Nathan, thank you.

God bless.

How does somebody who is so soft-spoken work for me?

How is that possible?

Yeah, it is amazing.

He's the one that keeps you sane.

Like, you want to say these crazy things, and then he writes actual things that make sense.

And then

you bridge the gap and you become kind of just sort of insane.

What was the weirdest experience here?

It's been the more surreal or how long is your show?

Yeah, okay.

All right, I got it.

Let me just.

You could still withdraw your endorsement of the book.

I mean, it's the interview.

I still checked him.

He put it on.

He didn't put it on.

No, it's not on there.

Wow.

He doesn't care.

No, he doesn't care.

Wow.

Now, he says that I didn't get it to him in time.

What a surprise that would be, Nathan.

But I know that's not true because I have writers.

If you make Nathan write your review of of his book, I'm not sure.

This is what should be on the book.

This is actually what I wrote.

I love this book.

It's funny, fast-paced, and whimsical.

A joyful celebration of family and faith that sweeps you along in a surprising finale that will melt your heart.

This is ideal Christmastime reading, the kind of moving, life-affirming story the world really needs, right?

That is what we need right now, man.

After the last couple of years, oh my gosh.

The stuff that's going on in the world right now to have something that's actually uplifting, that is definitely needed.

You know, I just read, Nathan, because I know you just read something, you know, you just wrote something very uplifting.

Let me just see if you fit in the same category that we're in.

I just read that in the neighboring

galaxy, there is a now newly discovered black hole.

And I am rooting for us to be sucked into the black hole.

Does that fit anywhere in with the Christmas cheer?

Not really.

Not really.

Huh.

If it's

into oblivion,

I will say your review.

The getification sounds pretty good right now.

And your reviews did say there was a surprising ending.

So could it be that they all just get sucked into a black hole and that's how it ends?

Spoiler on that.

Come on, Stu.

Man, Stu, and you haven't even read it yet.

All right, again, the name of the book is Life on Christmas Eve.