The Woke Crowd Is Losing | Guests: Bill O’Reilly & John Ziegler | 11/12/21

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Glenn and Stu discuss how they felt on January 6, how they feel about the investigation, and Mark Meadows refusing to testify. Pat Gray joins to discuss the social media throttling of free speech and the World Economic Forum announcing the Great Narrative. Bill O’Reilly joins for his weekly news recap, discussing the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, past presidents and executive privilege, and BLM threatening New York with violence. John Ziegler, senior columnist for Mediaite, joins to discuss what he learned about the modern media after investigating the Penn State scandal for 10 years. Glenn discusses how people are waking up to the woke ideology.
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Hello, America.

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Oh,

Mark Meckler's in trouble today.

I'll tell you that right now.

He's been called to testify in front of the congressional hearing on what did you know?

When did you know it, you terrorist, on January 6th?

And he said, nah, I don't think I'm coming.

This is a ridiculous kangaroo court.

So now they say if he doesn't show up, he is going to be held in contempt of Congress.

We begin there.

Oh, also,

John Kerry says, oh yeah, I know the weaker slaves thing, but we got climate change to deal with.

You won't believe some of the stories that are coming out today.

Also, one of my personal faves

is

how YouTube and Twitter and Facebook had their algorithm squash people who say positive things about Kyle Rittenhouse.

How if you are saying he's innocent, you're being suppressed.

Wow, I thought we were just looking for the truth here.

I thought when they were just looking for things, they were just looking, you know, to stop hatred and bigotry.

Now, if you disagree with what they think on a case, you're suppressed.

Welcome to America 2021.

Can't wait until the new year.

Coming up, it's Friday.

Sorry.

Mark Meadows, I'm sorry.

Thank you very much, Stu.

I don't know what I was.

Meckler's a friend of mine, a completely different.

Just say names.

You know what?

Say names and say they're going to be in contempt of Congress.

And I think that's a good thing.

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I don't know.

Okay, give me an update on the Mark Meadows story.

Well, basically, they sent

a letter yesterday.

Yeah.

House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capitol warned that Mark Meadows could be charged with contempt if he does not testify before Congress on Friday.

He said the letter said failure to appear at the deposition by Meadows would be viewed as willful non-compliance.

Continue to go, Mark.

Just don't do it.

Continue to stand.

I have to tell you, how dare you?

Oh, really?

I'm in contempt?

I hold all of Congress in contempt.

So do the American people, typically.

Different kind of contempt, though.

Usually when Congress asks you to come, even though it's annoying, you usually have to go.

Oh, okay.

All right.

That's what Mark is going to have to deal with here.

Yeah.

They're going to come after him and they're going to push all the buttons they can push.

I think of Food University.

I call it FU.

But that's what I think of.

I don't know why.

Anyway,

does he have a state?

Like, can he?

What happens here?

Eventually they just come and drag him in?

What happens?

I don't know.

I know we reached out to Mark earlier today, and he's talking to his attorneys to find out if he's going to figure out what he can say and what he can't.

We've invited him on the show this morning.

And

I don't think

that

it's going to work out well for Congress in the end.

Go ahead.

I mean.

They're a big separation of powers issues here, obviously, at play.

And he probably has a lot of wiggle room for those things to play out.

Put him in congressional jail.

Go ahead.

I mean, honestly.

I think that's what he wants.

No, it's not what he wants.

I'm sure he wants to stand up for what he

will tell you, enough is enough.

They're going to hold you in contempt.

Peter freaking Schiff.

Arbinda, Peter, Adam Schiff, sorry.

Adam Schiff.

Forget everything I say about names today.

I don't know.

It was a rough night last night.

But Adam Schiff,

you want, he's going to hold me in contempt.

You want me to answer to you?

Not a chance.

Not a freaking chance.

But I I mean, you can say that all you want.

When Congress starts saying, we're going to put you in jail, usually opinions change.

They do have power.

Even though, like, the problem with Adam Schiff is that he was elected to Congress, but Congress has the power.

So at some point, there's going to be a fight between Congress and the executive branch.

It's going to play out in the courts.

Yes.

Yes.

And that is going to be when he ends up.

Eventually.

I mean.

You know, it's not like he's going to go do hard time in prison.

And I'm not saying that everybody is different.

everybody is different i wouldn't want to go to prison just because i didn't show up um but i have to tell you if if i did show up i would probably end up in prison anyway because i'm not i am not playing their game and i would seriously

i mean you know it's easy to talk big right so i want to i want to make sure that you understand i'm not talking for mark and i am I am also saying this is the way I feel and I would hope that I would have the courage to go to prison.

You might be following this closer than I am, so this may be a dumb question.

But like, what's his argument for not testifying?

Like, I mean, I assume he doesn't believe he did anything wrong.

I mean, I don't think Mark Meadows had anything to do with the January 6th attacks.

Yeah, did he release a statement at all?

I believe the statement, or I believe his intent is,

you are bogus.

This is a witch hunt.

I'm not going.

Right.

I'm just not going to participate because this whole thing is a chick,

which it does seem to be just a large political action by the Democrats.

Again, like, there are answers to debate that happened around January 6th that I think could be interesting to know.

Yes.

You know, there's a lot of stuff around that.

We discuss those issues.

Exactly right.

But this does not seem to be

seer efforts.

There are a lot of things that we need to talk about

about

the plight of African Americans in our inner cities.

And there's lots of things that we should discuss that are serious, that a lot of people who actually marched, didn't loot, actually were trying to say when they were on the streets peacefully protesting with Black Lives Matter.

There's a lot.

But I am not going to a Black Lives Matter

run

kangaroo court.

You know what I mean?

Because they're not seriously looking for answers.

Nobody is seriously looking for answers on January 6th.

I think all of us looked at January 6th and we had two feelings.

Now, this might piss you off, but this is the way I felt.

I saw that and I went, what the hell are you doing?

I immediately saw that and thought,

this is going to kill any chance of being free if this goes further than it already is.

This is a really bad thing.

I have nothing to do with it.

I don't want ever to be associated with people like that.

That was my first feeling.

My second feeling was, come on, Trump, come on, come on, come on, stand up, stand up, stand up.

Just get on television right now and say, this is not

America.

We don't do that.

If he would have done that, I think all of this would have been over.

All of this would have been over.

But he didn't.

Roll, he did He did later on the statement, but

it wasn't effective and it wasn't as quick.

Right.

And

that's the way I felt.

So

I want a full investigation because I am no longer convinced that the FBI wasn't involved in that.

Yeah, and that's what I think there's both sides of it, right?

There's all sorts of questions.

Look, as a person who cares about history, I want to know what happened in the lead up to that event.

I want to know if there was FBI involvement, if there were,

you know, they just released a whole report on this that said the overwhelming majority of people who were there had no pre-planning, no,

it's the exact opposite of what we've been told

for months and months and months and months and months.

I do want that information to come.

I want that information.

Here's another thing: the guy with the buffalo head, you know, the guy with the horns, and he's like,

that guy, I think that guy should go to jail, but they just gave him like five and a half years in prison.

Excuse me?

What did he do?

They say he was inciting.

I think the guy is unstable, quite honestly.

Have we checked his mental health?

I think he might be unstable.

He was carrying a spear.

Do you think so?

Really?

A guy carrying a spear and a buffalo head.

You think he might be really

five and a half years.

Why?

Because he was the iconic person there.

We don't put people in prison for longer prison terms because they were the image of something.

I'd have to go back.

This is in one of your books, but the average amount of time spent in prison for a child molester is like two and a half years.

Oh, by the way.

So five and a half, a little excessive for the guy with the horns.

Have you heard

mat is now the new thing for pedophile?

It's not pedophile.

You can't say pedophile anymore.

It's mat.

It's

mature attraction.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

No, they did not really come up with a title.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, it is.

It is.

No.

It is.

Check my tweet from last night because I found it last night.

Check my Twitter feed.

And

I mean, it's like,

do we have a...

Here it is.

This is a clip.

Listen to this.

Thank you for that question.

This is a

term unattractive person or map in the title and throughout the book for multiple reasons.

First of all,

because I think it's important to use terminology for groups that members of that group want others to use for them.

Oh, okay.

And advocacy groups like before you act

have advocated for use of the term map.

Map.

They've advocated for it primarily because it's less stigmatizing than other terms like pedophile.

A lot of people, when they hear the term pedophile, they automatically assume that it means a sex offender.

And that isn't true, and it leads to a lot of misconceptions about attractions toward minors.

I've definitely heard the idea that you brought up, though, that the use of the term minor attracted person suggests that it's okay to be attracted to

the person.

But using a term that can indicate

a person one is attracted to doesn't indicate anything about the morality of that attraction.

No.

No, just because you're attracted to minorities, I mean to minors, just because you're attracted to an eight-year-old.

That doesn't say anything about you.

Yes, it does.

It says that you are sick.

You're sick.

Okay.

There's something that didn't fit right.

There's something that's not maturing in you.

There's some problem.

If you are attracted to little girls or little boys, there is something deeply wrong with you.

Period.

Yeah, but we're going to use the name of the group that they want, right?

Maps.

We want to make sure we're using whatever thing they prefer.

I'm thinking, Stu, that I won't even ask for Google

maps.

I want to change, I want a different word for actual maps.

I'm going to be that far away from the word map.

I was going to say, because you initially said it was matte, and that would suck for Matthews

all across the country.

As bad as it is for Karens right now.

Yeah.

But let me give you this.

This is from the Washington Post, Glenn.

The Washington Post.

Washington Post.

Big conservative outlet, as you know.

Big, big, big.

Court records show the vast majority of the roughly 650 people federally charged in the riot were not part of far-right far-right groups or premeditated conspiracies to attack attention.

I'm sorry, say that again.

I'm sorry.

This is a Washington poster.

Washington posted.

Again,

it's like the National Review.

Go ahead.

Vast majority of the roughly 650 people federally charged in the riot.

Vast majority of the 650 people charged.

Were not.

Were not.

Not.

Were not part of far-right groups or premeditated conspiracies to attack the Capitol.

Rather,

many were an array of everyday Americans that included community leaders, small business owners,

teachers, and yoga instructors.

I knew those damn teachers and yoga instructors.

You get the yoga people and the teacher people together.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

I'm surprised they weren't making crack labs in the hallways.

Yes.

Now, there are, to be fair, lots of yoga instructor-based insurrections throughout history.

They're littered with them.

I mean, almost every single

insurrection begins with yoga instructors.

It's not hot yoga.

It's usually too yoga, but that's too hot.

It's just like, I can't take it anymore.

It's too hot, this yoga.

And they overthrow governments.

It happens.

One wore his work badge.

What, what?

One wore his work badge.

Another instructor?

No, they're just saying regulators.

Another, a jacket with the phone number of his work on the back.

Okay, so.

So these are people who came for an insurrection or a pre-male.

Waiting to overthrow the government.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Are you saying that when Antifa opens up their umbrellas, it's to hide their faces or what they look like?

Yeah, you know.

Because I always thought it was going to be about rain and they would have the phone number of

where they can be called

on their back.

And you can mock Antifa all you want, but they were way out ahead of the COVID thing.

Long before it even arrived, they were wearing masks.

Yes.

So

thank goodness for them.

We haven't even started yet.

We haven't even started.

It's going to be a very interesting and I think very very frank day because Stu took me to Rocky 4 last night.

Yes, the director's cut.

And if you thought it was good in the 80s, you should see that movie 40 years later.

It was fantastic.

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Have you ever, quote, adopted the attitude of the great Negro, end quote?

No, no, no, President Biden.

I have not done that.

What are you talking about?

I believe you're talking about Satchel Page, who played in the Negro Leagues, which

was the name of the league.

However, you wouldn't want to say it how you just said it.

Well, that's what he said.

That is a quote, a direct quote.

Are you saying that he said something wrong?

Because I'm on Snopes.

Oh, okay.

And Snopes has an awful lot to say about this.

About that?

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Ah.

Snopes.

Okay, can you give me the...

Do we have the audio here of Joe Biden?

Yeah, here's Joe Biden

yesterday.

You know, I've adopted the attitude of the great Negro at the time, pitcher in the Negro leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros, in

Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson.

His name was Satchel Page.

Yes, the great Negro.

Okay.

Thank you, Grandpa.

What Snopes says about this is ultimately, Biden's fractured anecdote appears to be aimed at conveying to Blinken that he was only as old as he felt.

While he did indeed utter the words, I've adopted, quoting, the attitude of the Great Negro, end quote, and said them in that order, the context surrounding that sentence fragment does not support the claim or implication that Biden called or referred to Satchel Page as the Great Negro.

Excuse me, what?

What kind of Russian gymnast do you have to be to twist your mind up into how many knots to get that to be reality?

And by the way, by the way, I said thank you, Grandpa, because one of the excuses is: look, he's just old.

He's from a different.

You know what?

I don't think that Donald Trump is that many years younger than

Biden.

Yeah.

Not that many years.

He's a grandpa, too.

It feels like that.

And he would never say that.

He would never say that.

It does feel like Joe Biden's a lot older than Donald Trump, but he's not.

He's only a few years older.

He's not.

It just feels that way when you watch them speak, when you see their energy.

I mean, it does seem like Donald Trump is much more on the ball than Joe Biden is.

I mean,

you might not like Trump.

You might not like what he says when he's on the ball, but he does seem like he's on the ball.

Joe Biden does not.

Now, I don't.

It appears that Biden was going to describe Satchel Page as the great pitcher in the Negro leagues.

When the words came out, as I jumped at the attitude of the

can't even get through it.

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You know, I've seen the YouTube rules, and they are about five pages, very fine print, five pages of what can be said, what can't be said.

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We have to edit everything for YouTube almost every day.

Oh, yeah.

Almost every day.

Yeah.

I mean, it is, there is no such thing as unfiltered speech.

Did you see what Twitter was doing yesterday for Kyle Rittenhouse?

No.

They were suppressing anyone who said he's clearly innocent.

They were suppressing that.

I mean, there is no such thing as freedom of speech anymore in America.

There's just not.

You can't say that is the public square.

Social media is the public square.

It's tough because it's still their website.

So that's why they are able to do these things legally.

But we are not the public square, even though we want it to be the public square, I guess.

We are moving towards the metaverse.

Yeah, no, look, I mean, there's arguments to be made.

A lot of people make them about that it should be thought of as the public square.

Legally, right now, it's not, though.

And that's why they can do all this stuff.

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Because I'd love to get your reaction on something, but do you have something you want to bring up?

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Okay.

So are you familiar with the metaverse?

Yeah.

Okay.

So everybody thinks, oh, that's

Facebook.

Why are they metaverse?

That's ridiculous.

Blah, blah, blah.

No, no, no.

We are so far ahead on the metaverse and you don't even know it.

I want to tell you that on Wednesday,

the World Economic Forum held the great narrative.

And they've been promoting this.

And what I'm going to read to you is on their website.

Now, remember, the World Economic Forum just partnered with the Biden administration to bring these things back, to bring these things into America.

We are now partnered with 20 different companies,

public-private partnership, and the World Economic Forum.

This is Build Back Better.

So the great narrative was the

conference that is happening this week.

to design the future.

Now, I want you to just listen.

This is how they opened it.

Design the future, the story for the future.

In order to shape the future, you have to imagine the future, design the future, and then execute.

Over the next two days, they will decide how we decide, how we execute the great narrative.

But the great narrative is, what is tomorrow going to look like globally?

The world has gone through a very difficult time.

People are now looking for transformation.

But the world needs a new blueprint, a new narrative.

Why?

Because 1% own more wealth than 7 billion.

Almost half the population lives in under $6 a day because the last 60 years were the warmest on record.

We can't afford to waste more time on denial of climate change because our digital world will be as important as our physical world.

By 2025, there will be five times more devices than people on this planet.

Because both to inspire hope and action, government, first and foremost, are in the business of installing hope.

Governments are instituted among men to

Oh, protect these rights.

I'm sorry, I thought it was install hope.

Imagine what role the government should play to install this new narrative.

A whole government approach is not enough.

All of humanity approach is needed.

Collectively, we are the author of this new chapter.

The future belongs to those who can imagine it and implement it.

How can we design the government to be future citizen ready?

How to lead the world into sustainable and a better future?

What will be the great narrative?

When we look at the world today, difficulties shape the future.

Three obstacles.

First, after the pandemic, people have become much more self-centered.

Really, that's the big...

What role is, what is the role of government?

Looking at our current position in human history, we sit at the second of the first minute of the first day of the first year.

Human evolution to the wheel to today with technology in 50 years it will be totally different the pace we've grown has been massive but we are putting our life onto one platform the future will be based on the platform we design now

does anybody think so far this is a little spooky

The job is to bring people and humility together.

Hmm, and humility.

How is this great government going to make us find humility?

Technology.

Let's see.

The job is to bring people and humility together.

Technology

and to bring better for our humanity.

Obviously translated.

How do you see the global future collaboration?

Hopefully in optimistic terms.

We know the world isn't inclusive or sustainable enough, but we cannot forget the amount of progress made in 50 years.

We know the tensions like USA and China, but we have always have common interests.

They want stronger cooperation between the U.S.

and China, including environmental issues.

Don't leave it alone to governments.

Business and science need to play a part.

Combine the common interest.

Make short-term compromises for long-term change.

We are in a new transformation of humankind.

If you want to change humanity, we must change the world.

Let us use our energy to create a great narrative for humankind in the next two days.

Take our own fate into our own hands.

And who's that from?

The World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.

Is that not freaking terrifying?

Yeah.

Incredible.

I mean, they do seem like they're much further along than they are.

Hey, well, Facebook's changing their name.

You know, it's a lot.

No.

It's a lot further along than that.

This is so far along, and we are not invited to the table.

Humanity is not invited to the table.

Just our overlords are invited to the table, and they will decide for us.

This is the scariest thing I've ever seen, because it's not just America.

This is the world.

Everybody's on board with it.

Yeah, they are playing for the world.

And they're using the same verbiage, too.

They're all doing the

better thing.

Oh, yeah.

It's all the great reset.

Yeah.

And by the way,

I just want to say this.

We're looking for, let's see, we know the tensions like USA and China, but we have common interests.

We want stronger cooperation, USA and China, including environmental issues.

Don't leave it alone to the governments.

Combine the common interest.

Make short-term compromises for long-term change.

Now, let me play you what John Kerry said yesterday about China and the Uyghurs.

How in your several months of meetings behind the scenes with China did you bring up some of those very contentious issues,

such as the use of forced labor in Xinjiang for building solar panels?

How did you address it and

how did you kind of overcome that in reaching this final?

Well, we're honest.

We're honest about the differences, and we certainly know what they are, and we've articulated them.

But that's not my lane here.

That's my job is to be the climate guy.

You also had Nancy Pelosi say we have to get climate change done,

and we can't get bogged down with the Uyghur slaves.

John Kerry is currently fighting legislation

to ban anything made by slaves in China.

This is the cooperation.

This is the kind of

short-term compromises that will

show us in the future

a whole race of people have been wiped out.

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So

Pat Gray has a cookie company.

And

come on in, Stu.

Just go ahead and cross the camera line.

Jeez, what a...

Anyway, so he has a cookie company, and

he is, and this is not because we're fat.

No.

This is because

we are the taste testers, right?

Yes.

I mean, you can't, you don't know what to recommend.

Yeah, no idea.

No idea.

No idea right now.

Right, okay.

So what do we have?

So

we've got a special thing coming out on Black Friday, a special box of stuff.

I'm not even, I don't know if I'm even supposed to to say they're cookies, but we do have a cookie company, so that might be a clue.

They are cookies.

You know, they are cookies.

I'm pretty sure we're not selling socks.

Okay, so what is it we're supposed to try?

Try any and all of them.

Anything that looks good, go ahead and try it.

They all look good.

Don't say the name of the cookie because that's supposed to be secret, too.

But these are not all of these are approved yet.

No, they're the ones that we're going to

send out.

Isn't that incredible?

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Yeah, they're really, really good.

Oh, my gosh, that is like pie.

Yeah, I know.

It's delicious.

That is honestly

my favorite one right now.

My grandmother,

completely unrelated to the cookies.

My grandmother used to make

lemon pie?

Lemon meringue pie.

And again, that's completely unrelated to what we're talking about.

That was unbelievable.

Yeah, it's so good.

I don't know.

Like you said, my wife is, there's something weird going on there.

She's

this the cake magic.

Yes.

Oh, my God.

My dad used to make.

Oh, my God.

She's a witch.

Yeah, that's, I mean, she's really good.

I don't know where she comes up with these flavors, but these are all the special ones because we've got the fall line out right now.

And that's separate to these.

These are better than having a pie after

dinner.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And there are fewer calories than eating a whole pie, too.

Barely.

Shh.

you're not supposed to say that.

They're so good, though.

This is and then there's that one.

Oh, my God.

I like that one, too.

That's really good.

So this is coming out on you go to kexie.com.

Oh, my gosh, sign up for it.

Oh, my gosh, that's good.

How long does it take her?

Why is it?

Why is it?

I mean, honestly, I grew up in a bakery for five generations.

I've never tasted cookies anything like this.

Yeah.

I know she's a good person.

But

I don't know.

She goes to the kitchen and just comes home with, try this.

Try this.

I think this is really good.

Yeah.

It's my new favorite.

This is, this is, this is what you get if you're going to Thanksgiving or you're going to this one.

I guess these are.

If you go to somebody's house or like Christmas dinner and you bring these as like the

contribution.

I would eat these.

You know, pie and ice cream after lots of ice cream, lots of pie.

I would just, because we warm them up in the microwave for like 15 seconds.

Yeah, if you do that, then they're really

fresh out of the oven.

They're, they're incredible.

It's incredible.

I mean, these are all incredible.

There's one in here that I won't, it's like a, I don't know, you would think is a controversial flavor.

That's, that's the way I would summarize it.

Yeah.

This is a breakfast cookie.

This one.

But this, this controversial flavor is really good.

Yeah.

Did you like it?

Oh, that's a controversial one?

Yeah.

You probably would say there's some sweet and savory.

There's a savory one in there.

This is very savory the way you've described it.

You like that too?

I haven't had it yet.

You would not think of it as a cookie.

No, you wouldn't.

But tell me that's not

serious, man.

Kecksi.com, if you liked it.

How do you say it?

It's a breakfast cookie.

That is a breakfast cookie.

K-SI.

K-E-K-S-I.com.com.

Dessert.

Great for the hotel.

Breakfast.

Hey, I'm going to be 10,000 pounds when we get back.

Worth every pound.

Fantastic.

Fantastic, Pat.

I don't know how she does it.

Darren either.

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Well, I know what the biggest story to me is in the United States this week.

It is the Rittenhouse trial and all of the ramifications that that has.

But it's Friday.

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There's an old saying we used to hear from the old timers.

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Yeah, yeah, generally speaking, that, you know,

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Tell me, sir, the

biggest story of the week.

Well, a popular story is the written house situation.

As far as what's important to the United States,

it's the battle between Biden and Trump over the January 6th documents in the National Archive.

So which one do you want to handle, Beck?

Well, I think we should handle the one you think is the biggest story.

You know, it just depends on how you're looking at your country.

So the Rittenhouse story is over.

He's not guilty.

And it's just another example of how the media convicts people without any knowledge of what happened.

Everybody ran a montage, including me.

I'm sure you did.

Yep, yep.

Of all these far-left

people

convicting the 17-year-old, then 17.

And still doing it, honestly.

And Twitter today is suppressing people who are saying he's innocent.

I did not know that.

See, I'm not in that world, that world of Twitter and Facebook and all that.

And that is a very corrupting force in America.

Yeah.

Seeing that most people get their news from Twitter, Facebook, et cetera.

And so once you replace reality with unreality,

so then your life is going to careen, if you do that in your personal life, it's going to careen and

collapse.

And now, on a national basis,

we have that coming too, because as you just said, many, many people, they don't.

use standard news agencies anymore.

And they're smart not to because almost all of them are corrupt.

So

Meadows, let's switch to the other story.

Meadows says now he is not going to cooperate with the January 6th Committee because they are battling over the executive privilege.

You know, it's a kangaroo court.

They're saying if he doesn't testify today, he'll be held in contempt of Congress.

And I think he's pretty fine with that.

I hold them in contempt.

But

what do you think is happening there?

And what is this really all all about?

Well, Bec, as you know, because you've known me a long time, I'm essentially a reporter.

I mean, I'm a blabber mouth and an analyst and all that, but my career is based on reportage.

So when I saw this,

this is about Biden versus Trump.

This is mono a mono.

So Biden basically says, if you're a former president, you don't have executive privilege.

You don't have it.

And I'm going to write an order that says you don't have it.

And I'm going to go into every nook and cranny I can to find out exactly what you said to all of your advisors while you were in the White House.

So everybody understands.

And then

Trump says, no, I do have executive privilege, and you can't do that.

And I'm going to file a lawsuit, which he's done.

And then late last night, the federal court stayed the Biden action, Okay, which I predicted.

Why did I predict that?

Why did O'Reilly predict that?

Because I actually did some reporting back.

Did you know

that on the second day

he was president,

Barack Obama signed an executive order?

It is 13489.

And that executive order says

that presidents who leave the White House continue to have executive privilege, and all of their documents contained in the National Archives

are secure.

Did you know that?

I did not know that.

Okay, because

nobody

knew it.

Nobody reported on it.

Nobody looked.

Nobody cares about what the reality of the situation is.

So look, I think.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Before you go on, I thought that was,

you know, like that all the time, that, you know, the papers were sealed.

I guess the Sandy Berger thing should have told me the difference.

Why should they be open to everyone?

A president of the United States has the right to private counsel.

It's just like you and your lawyer or your doctor.

Okay?

It's a right to have private conversations because many of those conversations are, well, why don't we consider this?

Why don't we do that?

And it never comes to fruition.

But the point of the matter is that here we have two presidents, Biden and Trump.

Biden is trying to destroy Trump.

There's no doubt in my mind.

It's personal.

He feels threatened.

Biden is doing so badly.

that Trump is gaining momentum.

So Biden's trying to destroy him and wants to go in and look at every private conversation that Trump had in four years and try to find something that he can feed to the New York Times.

Okay?

That's what this story is all about.

But the real outrage of the story is my little news agency, billorilly.com, all right?

a very small agency could find this information and no one else can

because no one else cares, Beck.

Now, I'm not putting you in that category.

I'm just saying that

the real, the corporate news agencies with budgets of $100 million,

they don't have researchers that can go in and look at it.

Of course they do.

They're not curious.

And they're not looking for that angle on the story.

So wait a minute, Bill.

So he put in an executive order that said it's all private, right?

Obama.

Obama did.

The most important thing of this executive order, again, if people want to look it up, it's 13489,

is that President Obama

clearly stated

that past presidents have executive privilege.

So then, why did you say you knew the court was going to rule in this case?

Because I knew about this order.

And so the federal court can't override Obama's executive order.

Can't do that.

That has to be done on a constitutional basis.

Was Barack Obama wrong in this?

Was this an unconstitutional executive order?

Why didn't Biden, because you can rescind executive orders, why didn't Biden just rescind that order?

Who knows?

But he didn't.

It's still on the books.

And the Biden people don't know about it because, again, nobody looks.

Nobody cares.

Well, we're going to do this.

You're going to do that.

All right.

It's like the Remain in Mexico executive order under Trump.

Okay, Biden says, I'm not throwing it out.

And a judge goes, federal judge says, well,

you have to go through a process.

You just can't throw it out.

And therefore, today, the Remain in Mexico policy exists.

It's there.

That's the law.

It's not being followed, but yes, you're exactly right.

It's not being followed.

But my point is that we're all in great jeopardy, all of us, because we're now living in a country that doesn't care about the truth and the facts.

And let's get back to Rittenhouse.

So all of these people on the View and Morning Joe and the usual suspects, all right, people who have just no credibility.

They don't know what happened to this kid.

And I said that to my audience from the jump.

The only thing I know about Kyle Rittenhouse at the time

when he ventured into Wisconsin with an illegal rifle, and he could be convicted on the illegal rifle, okay?

The only thing I know is that his parents should not have allowed him to do that.

That's all I know.

Bad parenting.

You know?

And so I am not going to speculate about the life of a fellow human being.

I'm not going to convict him.

All right.

And

let me rephrase what I just said because I don't want to convict the parents.

He's a 17-year-old kid.

It may not have been bad parenting.

It was just a bad choice on his part.

He's 17.

I said the parents should not have allowed him to go,

but I don't know his circumstances.

Yes, I don't either.

Okay, so if he's living in your house and he goes, hey, mom and dad, I'm going to take this rifle and go into a riot situation in Kenosha.

I say no.

Me as the dad go, I don't think so.

Right, exactly right.

Exactly right.

So now, do you think the press is going to

actually support a verdict?

I mean, assuming that the verdict comes back as

not guilty, will the press accept that?

Yeah,

they have to accept it because they look like clowns now.

No, no, they really don't.

I mean, they're already saying this judge is out of control.

This judge is.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

That's a low-level

way down

the chain of journalism.

You're not hearing that from the Washington Post.

You're not hearing that from these other people because all they care about is their own career.

I'm hearing it from CNN.

Well, that's

reinforces the low-level on author chain.

All right.

When we come back, I want to take a quick break.

When we come back, because the other thing that is going on and tied to January 6th is this memo that came out from the Department of Homeland Security this week that says now this is

the most fragile terror situation for domestic terrorism and racism they've ever seen.

And

they keep just putting logs on this fire.

Except there was something that happened in Manhattan that nobody seems to want to recognize with the

new mayor of New York, Eric Adams.

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So the New York City mayor-elect Eric Adams, who I think I'm actually, I mean, don't make me like this guy, but I'm starting to like this guy.

He is reaffirming his pledge to bring back the New York City Police Department plain clothes unit,

and he is going to be tough on crime.

Well, Black Lives Matter met with him and then promised, if you do these things, riots,

fires, and bloodshed will come to your city.

So clear threat of violence.

Absolutely.

And if that happens, the first person arrested is Hawk Newsom, who said that, the head of the New York City Black Lives Matter chapter.

So now you can see around the country how out of control the nation's largest city is, being held hostage by violent radicals who will do what they say they will do.

They will do it.

And now, what the new mayor of New York City has to do is not overreact to it.

You know, let me do that.

I'm the overreactor because I have a big megaphone in New York City on WABC radio.

I'll handle the overreaction.

What he has to do is basically methodically reorganize the New York City police department so that A, the police officers will work for him.

And B, that the people of

New York will be protected because they're not now.

So if you come to New York City and you get on a subway, you could be harmed.

And the person who hurts you is probably not going to get prosecuted.

That's got to stop, and it's got to stop right now.

And it just shows you and shows anybody who has a modicum of common sense what the radical left really wants.

And one word sums it up.

Anarchy.

yeah chaos yep yeah they don't care who gets killed or who gets hurt look at that concert in Houston okay where that rapper was on stage and what is it nine people dead now

okay you're telling me that that concert promoter and those people

didn't know

that would have been possible with the crowd that came in there an undisciplined crowd many of them intoxicated, they didn't know

that this could have happened, they didn't care.

And now they'll be sued and all of them will be sued and they'll be next five years, their lives will be in and out of court and all of that.

But what people don't understand is you and Stu were talking at the beginning about losing friends and all of that.

you know, different points of view.

And have you ever lost a friend who's different politically than you?

I haven't lost any friends that are different politically from me.

But once I see a person embracing and promoting destructive policies,

then I'm gone.

Yeah, I don't think any of my friends that have, you know, been, I mean, real friends that I've known are embracing the destructive policies.

But I have had friends that have disowned me because they say I,

you know, embrace destructive policies, and I'm not going to retaliate or anything else.

They can drop me, but I never, I'm not dropping them as friends, whatever.

It's not just about that, they just don't like you, Beck.

Hang around.

Well, I can talk to you about friends.

I don't think you have any, but

let me change the subjects here.

Are you following the James O'Keefe Project Veritas?

All I know is that the FBI wants to figure out who took a diary of, what, some member of the Biden family?

Is that what it is?

Biden's daughter.

And it's pretty damning stuff, but

they say they didn't take it.

And it was released a year ago, not by them,

but it was released a year ago.

And now they have come in and the FBI and even Jonathan Turley has said,

What law are they going after as a federal crime here?

It's a diary.

And now it appears as though the Justice Department is extracting data from the phones of James O'Keefe and sending it right directly to the New York Times.

And he's in a lawsuit against the New York Times.

Well, good.

I mean, look,

I feel bad for O'Keefe.

I think that he's trying to

uncover corruption.

He is an ideologue, all right, so you've got to understand that he comes from it from a point of view.

But he has uncovered some very worthy things.

The body parts about aborted fetuses was a tremendous story that no one would have done in the corrupt media.

And

he needs to get with these pro bono big law firms like Thomas Moore and these people to defend him.

And he needs to sue everybody who violates his civil rights because he'll eventually win many of those suits and cripple these people.

And that's how you do it.

So do you think that the system is working?

Because I have to tell you.

Do I think the system is working?

No, no, no, wait, wait, hear me out.

Hear me out for a second.

Hear me out for a second.

The

election just threw the bums out.

The Rittenhouse trial has exposed the media and the left and the prosecutors, all those people that just ran to he's guilty.

Things are changing to where people are opening their eyes and going, wait a minute, that's not right.

Yes, things are improving, but the system doesn't work.

And the reason the system doesn't work is because we're so corrupt.

Read my column as posted right now, billorilly.com.

And the column clearly lays out the Russian collusion

deal.

And let's talk on the other end of the break about this.

Yes.

Because the corruption is still

and nobody is paying attention to it.

Yes, we'll do that coming up in just a second.

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You can find out all about it at billorilly.com.

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Bill, let's pick it up from the last break.

You were saying?

Before we get to that, give me a couple of minutes at the end of this segment because I need your advice.

I hate hate to say that.

I need your advice.

Okay, so look, the column that I wrote on billorilly.com is titled Corruption.

And now we know that

the Clinton campaign concocted and financed the bogus Russian collusion story.

This is

weird.

This is so amazing that nobody pays attention.

Nobody really cares.

And part of it is the conservatives that are just so tired of the Clintons that it's like, oh, another Clinton scandal.

This one is the big one.

This one's the big one.

This is it.

And he's getting scant, word of the day, scant news coverage because people are exhausted about it.

I understand, but my job is to tell the folks what's happening, and we're living in a corrupt country.

I love my country.

I think it's the most noble nation ever.

But right now, it's corrupt.

Yeah, right now it's on the verge of being a banana republic if we're not already there.

So you have now, beyond a reasonable doubt,

a line

from the Clinton campaign to

the Democratic Party itself to the mainstream media.

Now, for the first time in American history, the corporate media has cooperated with a political party and

every aspect of trying to get the Democrats elected.

That's what this is all about.

So once you look at how powerful Disney, Comcast, Verizon, Facebook,

Google, Twitter.

Right, Silicon Valley.

And they all came together to destroy Donald Trump, and he won anyway, but that's a miracle, miracle, and that's on the folks.

And I will tell you this.

You know, you look now and say, oh,

you know, Google and Facebook and all these guys colluded to get rid of the Hunter Biden story, to get the votes out.

This is a much more nefarious use of the press.

This is them engaged for years,

engaging in a lie they knew was a lie.

And

this,

no, I'll disagree with you a little on the last statement.

They didn't know it was a lie.

Washington Post.

And New York Times and Washington Post because they didn't look.

They didn't care.

They didn't investigate.

Well, maybe this isn't true.

And this is used.

The FBI knew in 2017, and so did the Washington Post.

The Washington Post is a separate discussion.

You'll have to convince me.

The FBI knew, and that's Comey, and Comey

is corrupt, a corrupt FBI director.

Look, I wrote about killing the mob, all right?

J.

Edgar Hoover was corrupt.

He was a corrupt man.

We lay it out for you.

This isn't unprecedented.

What is unprecedented is that you had all this power arrayed against one man,

the Republican nominee for president, who every single day for more than two years had to deal with false charges.

And it has never happened.

And the fact that it did happen should scare the bejesus out of everybody because there's been no repenting.

No.

Who's repented?

No.

Listen to that.

The Puliters aren't going back home.

They're not going back.

Right.

They all won Puliters.

Let's give you one more.

So the New York Times, which is the most powerful newspaper agency

in the country, runs one reporter, Maggie Haberman, runs more than 100 anti-Trump stories based on anonymous sources, receives a Pulitzer Prize for doing it, okay, and they're all false.

Does she give the prize back?

Does the Pulitzer Committee demand it back?

Does anybody say anything about it?

No.

Now, there have been other times in our history, in the roaring 20s, probably the best example, where we've had so much massive corruption that society was damaged to an extent that it took decades to repair.

I don't think the corporate media in America can ever be repaired.

No.

No.

I mean, if honestly,

if you were the king of the universe, you would come in here and say, okay,

we agree on the principles that, you know, the founding principles and the Bill of Rights.

Great.

How do we reset?

You'd have to reset every agency and everyone in Washington.

You'd have to reset all of the media.

But honestly, Bill, you'd have to reset a lot of America as well.

Americans don't seem to care.

I'm not sure about that because last week we saw a repudiation of the progressive left.

So I think they're starting to care.

And Thanksgiving dinner is going to be a linchpin.

You're going to walk in there and you're going to look at your bill for that dinner and one man is responsible for you paying 50% more this year than last year.

One man.

I think also the airports are going to be a disaster.

Right.

Disaster.

Good point.

And everybody's going to know it.

And then you have little Sammy who wants a Lego to put under the tree, and little Sammy might not get the the little Lego, and he'll be in tears on Christmas morning.

All right, let me ask you, we didn't talk about the infrastructure bill passing.

Do you think the Build Back Better bill is going to pass?

They haven't learned anything from what happened in Virginia and New Jersey.

I think it might pass at a tune of $1314

instead of $3.5 trillion.

But again, they won't put out what's in a bill.

Build Back Better what?

What?

You know,

do I have to, my tax dollars are going to build more wind turbines?

And then here's another thing that billorilly.com uncovered, Beck.

And you should be so proud of me, Beck.

You should be telling everybody.

I think you're proud of yourself enough.

I mean.

No, but you should do it.

I'm O'Reilly's friend.

He's the greatest journalist of all time, and you need to know it.

You know who makes all the green stuff, Beck?

You know who makes the solar panels, the turbines, the electric cars?

You know who makes it?

China.

Yeah.

So why that billbag better money?

That's going right over to Beijing.

That's where that's going.

Does anybody know that?

No.

Nobody knows it because we used to, we the USA, make the solar panels.

We don't make them anymore.

China makes them.

Wow, they're too dirty.

China can make everything cheaper.

And we want our hands clean here.

The environmentalists are like, it's too dirty.

We need it, but it's too dirty.

There's so much the American people don't know about the corruption.

So build back better.

What?

Build back better.

What are you going to build back?

What?

We already got 1.2 for infrastructure.

They're going to build the roads and the bridges back up, maybe.

All right.

So now what?

What is this?

Environmental justice.

You know what that is?

That's free homes.

for people that the

Democratic Party wants to give free housing to.

That's what environmental justice is.

I urge everyone to

see the

latest nominee for the Treasury.

She is the Soviet woman that is going to be

has been nominated to be the comptroller of our currency.

And the press is using quotations when they say the GOP says she's an extremist.

She is an extremist.

She just said she wants to bankrupt all the oil and gas and coal industry.

I'd say that's an extremist.

All right, Bill, 90 seconds, go.

No, I'm doing the history, Trump O'Reilly History Tour, okay?

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Now, I'm putting together a list of questions, Beck, about the history of the Trump administration.

What do you think?

Okay, what are some of the topics that interest you about the history of it?

I'd like to know the

pushback from the State Department on the

Israeli embassy and

how close, if ever, that came.

What was that

opposed moving Yeah, I want to know what the U.S.

Embassy said.

No other president has ever done that.

So the pushback had to be enormous.

What was?

Who was the major pushback from that?

Okay, that's a good one.

Anything else?

Yeah, I want to know

when did he realize that

he

didn't

have the juice to stop the big state from just destroying everything.

Well, that's a little general.

So, what I'll get to do is next Friday when I get on, give me specifics because this tour is going to be very micro.

It's going to be.

What are you looking for?

What are you looking for?

I got plenty of stuff.

I mean, I want to know how that VAX got up and running in seven months.

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Really, really

important, really important, and nobody knows this question yet.

That would be great.

Now, if you're going to come to any of these shows, VAX, I need to know.

I mean, on Friday, yeah,

the one in Florida, the first one I'm going to.

Okay, so you're going to go to the Lauderdale show at the FLA

arena in Sunrise, Florida.

Because I've got to get you cleared.

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Oh, they love you.

Yeah, that's probably going to take like two years.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, it's unbelievable.

Yeah.

So we'll get you cleared to come in backstage there.

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We have John Ziegler coming up in just a few minutes.

He is the guy who, it's the 10-year anniversary of the Penn State scandal.

And, you know, he did a lot of reporting, and I think he's right on the Penn State scandal,

but

he's not marking the anniversary by going and regurgitating it.

He's marking the anniversary because he's learned a lot in 10 years, and he put together a list of things that you need to know about the media that he has learned over 10 years.

And it is all really good advice on how to view the media and how the media actually works because he's lived the grind himself.

And he's coming up in just a second.

Yeah, it's a really good list you can apply to every news story.

Every news story.

Every time there's a big breaking thing, you can see how the media reacts to it, how we get down these roads that are often incorrect.

For instance, how they can't turn it around.

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What are the true origins of the virus?

The disturbing revelations about the vaccine.

Why is everybody pushing it so hard and not allowing anyone to talk about any kind of side effects, no matter how small they are?

It is time to ask these questions.

The government and big tech, and I think big pharmaceutical, don't want you to know the truth.

This Wednesday night is a very important special, and it may air only once.

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Ask the questions.

And for the last 18 months, there is a big team that has been asking these questions and finding the documents.

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and FOIA them?

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Hello, America, and welcome to Friday.

We have a lot to share with you this last hour of the week.

We wanted to bring John Ziegler in, a very good friend of ours who

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John Ziegler is on the phone.

He is a senior columnist at Mediite.

He is a controversial guy, both left and right, because he calls them as he sees them.

I think he's one of the braver guys.

I think he's also a little suicidal

in his approach,

but he is also one of the only people I know that when he says, this is what I believe, I know that's exactly what he believes.

And that is very rare and worth a lot today.

Hello, John.

How are you?

Wow, Glenn, you know, I think the main reason I come on your show is just to hear your different intros to me.

Well, that one was really good.

My wife would agree with just about everything you just said.

Yeah, especially the suicidal in your life.

Exactly.

That was the part that I was thinking about.

Yeah, okay.

So, John, you wrote a great article after 10 years of investigating the Penn State scandal.

Here's what the case taught me about modern media.

And I can't believe

Mediite actually let you print this.

But they did.

Well, that's a story.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

They have,

we're not going to re-litigate the Sandusky thing you say.

I did a podcast with hours and hours and hours with the benefit of

hindsight.

But

you want to use that to show us, for instance, let's compare it now and show us COVID.

Right.

No, you've been on exactly why I think this story is relevant, although I will say, you know, here we are on the 10th anniversary of the Penn State scandal.

And for those that don't remember, this is the Jerry Sandusky sex abuse scandal that resulted in the firing of the great Joe Paterno and three Penn State administrators going to jail and Sandusky's going to almost certainly die in prison.

I mean, that story in and of itself was a huge story.

And the fact that we have rewritten history and told you what really did happen in our epic podcast with the benefit of hindsight is, I think, inherently relevant.

And in a rational world, it would be relitigated by the news media.

But being realistic, I think, John, I want you to know:

you know,

people like you who speak the truth that is unpopular, they are always recognized much later, usually when they're dead.

But

I think your podcast and all of your reporting on this, I think it will turn that story around eventually.

I would like to believe that.

It probably will be after I'm dead.

I'm preparing my nine-year-old daughter to dance who eventually take the reins on that.

But look, Glenn, I appreciate that more than you know.

And let me, last thing on my podcast.

I mean, people who have no interest in this story find it to be the most amazing podcast that they've ever encountered.

I mean, it's gripping.

It's entertaining.

I have a female co-host who was a television sportscaster here in Los Angeles, who's now

a professor of media at Syracuse University named Liv Sabib it's an amazing ride and we have proven this case beyond any comprehension and any shadow of the doubt and you will learn so much about humanity and the news media and I believe you will learn how we got into this COVID mess because a lot of what I wrote in this media

column relates directly to COVID and and the main parts of that are what happens when everyone gets locked in emotionally and professionally into a narrative narrative in no time where we don't know the true facts and where everyone is in a panic, a moral panic in this case involving child sex abuse.

We all lose our minds and then the experts see an opportunity to

forward their agenda.

And once the story is written, and it can happen in only a couple of days, and that's what happened in Penn State, a couple of days, 10 years ago, we were told a nonsensical story about Jerry Sinovsky having raped a boy in a shower and a coach telling Joe Paterno and he basically doing nothing in Penn State covering up for this former assistant coach.

That story is absurd.

Now sometimes absurd stories happen, but they come with evidence.

This one did not.

In fact, if you listen to the podcast, you know we've proven what actually did happen and it's not that.

But once everyone's invested, there's no going back.

And I guess one of the more amazing elements of both this story and with regard to COVID is that when the facts come in now and they're unequivocal they're overwhelming no one seems to care anymore no one no one no one will admit they were wrong now as a married guy I'm well trained in admitting when I'm wrong

I mean even even when I don't really think I am correct so I truly do not understand when did we stop admitting that when more information comes in, we can go, oh, wait a minute, do we rush to judgment, especially when this keeps happening?

It's as if Duke La Crosse never happened.

It's as if Faranos never happened.

It's as if Jussie Smollett never happened.

The Covington kids never happened.

We're seeing it with Kyle Rittenhouse.

It's time and time again, and the media never learns their lesson mostly because they're never held accountable, Gwen.

Well, I think they actually kind of are.

I mean,

the Blaze,

you know, our streaming service and, you know, with YouTube, we beat

the CNN ratings many nights, many nights.

It is crazy how low their ratings are going.

However, you're right.

They just think that's because we're all stupid.

So

they're never called into question

on what they actually did and what they reported.

And you can see that again with

the White House now and the Russia hoax,

we know where that came from, and we know the media participated in it.

But no one ever gets fired.

I guess that's my point.

Yes, as institutions, they are suffering in the ratings.

I think that a large part of that is because of lack of trust.

I mean, there's this narrative going that everyone's turning off television news in comparison to last year because there's no election.

Well, that's part of it.

But I think what happened with COVID destroyed what was ever left of their credibility in a large portion of the population.

But let me give you a really, let me give you a really good example that, again, is from the Penn State case, but I think you guys are going to enjoy this because this shows, this relates in some weird ways to COVID.

The Dr.

Fauci of this case was a woman by the name of Sarah Gannum.

Now, you guys fit on this narrative and tell me how absurd this is.

So we were told 10 years ago that the woman who broke this case was a 24-year-old Penn State graduate by the name of Sarah Gannam, 24 years old.

I don't know about you guys, but when I was 24, I didn't know crap about crap.

I was a television sportscaster, an NBC affiliate in Ohio and West Virginia.

I can't, in retrospect, believe they even let me on the air at 24.

I agree.

I'm the same way.

All right, so she's 24 years old, and immediately the media says, we found our expert, our Dr.

Fauci.

Tell us what happened in this story, Sarah.

So she leads everybody in this panic down this path that turns out to be completely absurd.

Now, let's follow her narrative from there.

She wins the Pulitzer Prize because the media loves this narrative.

You know, a semi-attractive Penn State graduate female brings down the entire Penn State football program.

Oh my God, they're salivating over this.

She never writes a book about the case, which is impossible as a Pulitzer Prize winner.

It's impossible, but there's a reason why she didn't write a book because she can't, not because she's just a bad writer, but because her narrative would get her in big trouble about what really actually happened.

But she gets a great gig at CNN.

So she goes from a tiny little paper in central Pennsylvania to CNN where she does nothing.

Nothing.

The only thing she gets known for are having snowballs thrown at her in a snowstorm she's covering and giggling on set with Wolf Blitzer while covering a horrendous abuse case.

So then she gets, I believe, let go by CNN.

She doesn't just suddenly retire at the age of 30.

We never hear from her again.

She's an assistant professor in Florida.

Now on the 10th anniversary, she comes back to do a podcast about the Sandusky case.

She is claiming in her podcast that she is a new Sandusky victim who died of an overdose in 2018 because of their trauma of the Sandusky abuse.

Did this person ever claim to be a Sandusky accuser when they were alive?

No, they were not a trial accuser.

They were not a settlement accuser.

I have all the settlement documents.

Their family was a huge Sandusky supporter.

They died of an overdose in 2018.

By the way, Sandusky's in prison.

I doubt there was any abuse going on at that time.

And then after, after this guy's death in 2018 a year later there are numerous articles about his overdose because the family is trying to you know get media coverage for his cause a year later still no mention of jerry sandusky by the parents then all of a sudden just before the statute of limitations comes in they get the most unscrupulous lawyer in this case and they sue penn state for a lot of money with zero record of this guy ever claiming to be a sandusky accuser and then the media reports on sarah ganam's podcast that these are this is a Sandusky victim.

You can be a Sandusky victim

without ever even claiming it.

And here's Sarah Gannum, who's still the Dr.

Fauci in this case.

I'm the Rand Paul to Sarah Gannum.

Unfortunately, I'm not a U.S.

senator, so no one's paying attention to me.

But this woman should be, this woman's credibility should be completely destroyed.

And this is someone the news media put on the pedestal as a heroine.

She's a fraud, and it's happening constantly in this media environment.

But again, we're not going to talk about the Sandusky thing.

You're the only person I know that can wind yourself up.

You're just like, hey, John.

Hey, John, how are you doing?

I'm doing pretty good.

You're like, I'm doing pretty good.

I'm doing pretty good.

But let me tell you about the Sandusky thing.

And then by the end, you're like foaming at the mouth.

And all I said was, what's going on?

But isn't that an amazing story?

It is.

It is.

I'm a big believer.

And it is.

If you wait long enough, the truth will come out.

It's just many people stop paying attention.

Well, and you're exactly right where we started, which is this is what's happening right now to the New York Times reporter that wrote everything about the Russia hoax.

It's all false now, provenly false.

She's not returning the Pulitzer Prize.

New York Times is not firing her.

They just move on.

And that is the problem with the media.

Let me take a quick break, and and then I'm going to come back because I want to go through some of these things that you wrote about.

In a panic, question everything.

Once a narrative is set, look out.

And the modern media is really like the movie business.

I want to start on that one when we come back with John Ziegler.

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John, I've got only a few minutes left and I want to talk to you about something else.

So let's go through these quickly if we can, because I think these are really important to keep on your refrigerator as you see a big story come by, because you are exactly right.

Let's pick it up here.

The modern media is really like the movie business.

Nonfiction movies used to say based on a true story, but today you say it's different.

Yeah, it's basically the dramatic license is so incredible that it's basically stuff that could have theoretically happened, probably didn't.

But boy, it makes a great story.

And, you know, I think we see this all the time.

Yes, we absolutely saw it with the Penn State scandal.

Let me give you an example that you and I are going to slightly disagree on, but not much, on the Russian story.

I agree with you.

The media blew it on the Russian story.

I think there was a kernel of truth there.

But they decided, you know what?

That's not good enough.

We need to juice this.

We need to make this into a movie where we've got a Manchurian candidate president, which was always a ridiculous concept to begin with.

And the whole notion of Russian collusion with regard to the 2016 election.

and so we now know that that movie was false but that's why but but they did that for two reasons one it fit their political agenda but two because let's face it real life is actually pretty boring and because the business model of the news media is broken they need to juice real stories into movie fiction in order to keep an audience that is the essence of what has happened here in the olden days back in when you and i were young

a newspaper was a license to print money.

A radio station was a license to print money.

There were only four or five TV stations.

It wasn't cable news.

And so they didn't need to do this because they were going to make money regardless.

Now they're desperately scrapping for every little ratings point they can get.

And that's why they're juicing stories that were used to be considered nonfiction are now being pretended to be

pretending that they're real when they're not.

Quickly, the third rail topics.

The defense is inherently disadvantaged.

This one I think is really true, really powerful.

Yeah, when you're dealing with a very controversial topic, whether it's race, whether it is sexual assault, whether it basically has anything to do with republicanism,

you know,

I believe that what the news media fails to understand, or maybe they don't care, is that they have a massive impact on how a story is going to turn out and how they cover it.

And it goes way beyond just polluting the jury pool.

It goes into the dynamics of putting on a defense.

And part of that is people who are prone to jumping in and saying, wait a minute, we're rushing to a conclusion here.

We're rushing to judgment are afraid to do so because they don't want to be seen as pro-child abuse or pro-racism or pro-killing innocent people or whatever it is.

And then by the time the facts come in, it's too late because everyone has moved on.

And oftentimes, the judicial system has already decided.

We're getting everything in bass awkwards order.

We used to wait till a trial.

Even here in Los Angeles, we waited till after the trial to have the Rodney King riots.

Now we do the riots first and the trial later, and it doesn't work.

Emotional investment causes one-side reporting.

This is really hard because this is why they don't correct themselves is because they're emotionally invested.

Yeah, it's not just about not admitting you're wrong.

That's a big part of it.

But they so desperately, and let's be clear, liberals control the narrative almost all the time in these situations.

Once they get emotionally invested, you can't let go.

The real world example of this, masks.

The security blanket of masks and the anti-Trump virtue signal of masks.

They have fallen in love with masks.

So the idea that being told that they wore masks for no reason for a year and a half, it's impossible for them to even comprehend that.

It is far easier to dupe someone, especially a liberal in the news media, than to convince them that they have been duped.

And this impacts all sorts of stories.

You have many more, and we'll tweet the story out after 10 years of investigating the Penn State scandal.

Here's what the case taught me about the modern media by John Ziegler.

One of them that are in here that I think is just so great is the modern media would have backed the Salem witch trials.

Absolutely true.

100%.

As long as they were getting good ratings and

they didn't like the witches.

I mean, they

absolutely would have backed the the Salem witch trials.

And Glenn, and thank you so much for caring about this story.

And I do hope people will at least take a listen to our podcast with the benefit of hindsight because you will not regret it.

It's an incredible ride.

It teaches you everything you need to know about modern humanity, modern media, and why things are so broken.

Where can you get the podcast?

Just anywhere?

iTunes, Spotify, everywhere.

With the benefit of hindsight is the podcast.

And one of the hosts is John Ziegler.

John, as always, thank you so much.

And

I know you're quite opinionated on COVID and what is going on in COVID.

You are really going to like my special next week.

And

if you will keep it to yourself, I'll send you the

almost finalized locked-in script.

Well,

I saw the title, and I actually emailed Stu because I've been pitching a documentary that has almost the exact same title.

Really?

My title was Panic, Politics, and Propaganda.

And when I saw yours, I'm like, holy cow, fake minds really do think a lot.

Yeah.

Well, next week is a two-hour commercial-free special that I think you're going to

feast on because I think there's a lot of stuff in there that even you are going to find

new and horrifying and will want to report on it.

John Ziegler, we'll talk to you again.

Thank you so much.

John Ziegler,

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interview with her?

She's a journalist, and Brian Stelter had her on, and he was like,

I don't know, the drunk Pillsbury doughboy,

or maybe he's just Mr.

Potato Head, but it's starting to turn a little into vodka.

He looked at her like a deer in the headlights

and had absolutely no idea what she was even talking about.

And basically, she comes on to tell Brian Stelter that there's a problem with the media and it is

real arrogance.

Listen, here it is.

Do you have it?

Okay.

All right.

Well, let me introduce

to you.

Her name is

Batia Ungar Sargon.

And when I was interviewing her, again, all I knew is she was telling the the truth about the media on mainstream media.

And I thought, this woman has no chance.

This woman has no chance.

Who is she?

Didn't know if she was a conservative or a liberal.

Well, I find out that she is a liberal

and she has woken up.

Play cut eight, please, from the podcast today.

I honestly do think that wokeness is the reason that a lot of liberals are waking up, you know, that just the

insulting nature of it,

the way that it fails to accurately capture the richness of opinion in the black community, the way that it's, you know, like you said, the contempt that

this worldview shows for their fellow Americans who they know are no longer racist.

I think that people are just fed up with the attempt to re-racialize American society.

And we're ready for unity.

I mean, we're ready for unity.

Listen to that.

But boy they I mean I mean look at Virginia.

Look at Virginia.

Yeah.

They were all all the media was on television while the lieutenant governor, the first black woman, is accepting

and walking into the role.

They're all saying this was a racist thing.

It was all racist dog whistles.

And you're like, How can these people be racist when they just elected her and a Hispanic at another high?

It's not that.

It was so amazing, the split screen of Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears, a Jamaican immigrant,

leading the crowd and chants, USA, USA on one side of the screen, the other, Joy Reed calling her

a victory for white supremacy, right?

It was the two Americas.

And I mean, honestly, it's just that image of Winsom Sears, it was really, I think, a lot of liberals.

That is what they they want to believe America is, and that is what they believe America is, and that is what America is.

And the Joy Reed side is 6% of the people are on that group.

We talk about it like that's all the Democrats.

It's really not.

It's a tiny, tiny minority that's drunk on its own success in this economy that rewards these elite educations.

I don't know why.

And that punishes people who are working class.

Again, I don't know why.

And

I mean, I guess I wrote a whole book about why, so I shouldn't say that.

But

I have a few congressmen and senators that I talk to a lot.

And

they're not necessarily the ones that people would think that I'm talking to.

And I have tried to convince them, guys, now is the time to do what happened in 1856.

And that is stand up and go, you know,

I've figured out that neither side actually cares about these problems.

That you're not serious about solving anything.

We're playing a giant game here.

And I'm not playing it.

And neither are my fellow Democrats and Republicans.

This guy is a Democrat.

This guy's a Republican.

That guy's a Democrat.

That person's an Independent.

And we're done playing this game.

It's a really interesting conversation where she really kind of excoriates herself because she didn't wake up until she says 2018.

And I give her a lot of credit.

She has lost friends and everything else, but she sees things clearly.

And we talked about,

you know,

how does that happen?

How do you wake people up?

And she's got some, I think, some really good advice.

And

one of the things we talk about is

how we have to come together.

We're not going to agree on everything.

And we've got to stop thinking that we should.

We have to agree on principles.

Principles.

Bill of Rights.

Just start with that.

And we can find our way to each other.

We didn't agree on policies, but we sure agreed on principles.

And I have a lot of respect for her, and she seemed to have respect for me as well.

That if we can agree on principles, then we can do things like, can we ask some critical questions here?

If you can't ask critical questions,

we are in

the city in Ukraine called Chernobyl.

And

the system is about to go into

meltdown.

and they say vent it

and the people in the control room go but why would we I don't think that vent it

and they vent it and look what happened it went into meltdown that's where we are we're in this place where you can't question anything

And they're saying you can't question it because it's an emergency.

Nobody is going to make a wise decision in an emergency.

This is why I'm telling you, please prepare your family, prepare for impact, prepare for shortages, get out of debt as much as you possibly can,

curb your spending as much as you can, because you don't want to be in a situation where you're in a panic.

That's where we were at the beginning of the pandemic.

15 days to flatten the curve.

All of us pretty much thought that that was a pretty good idea.

Let's just take two weeks.

Let's take a two-week pause and see

what is going on.

And let's get a handle on this a little bit more.

But in those two weeks, some things happened that nobody has known about

and that nobody now can question

that were very, very important.

And if we want to stop making the same mistakes, we have to go back and examine those things that happened.

And it takes some courage.

It takes courage to say,

who's profiting off of these vaccines?

And how is that working exactly?

And is there any motivation?

Maybe not.

Maybe not.

I mean, I will show you the evidence that,

yes.

But

when you're asking a question, you have to ask an honest question.

Was this a weapon engineered by the Chinese?

Everything we've done in research shows absolutely not.

Not.

It's not.

Was this intentional?

Nope.

Was this a surprise to Fauci and others?

No.

It wasn't a surprise.

It wasn't a surprise.

What did they do right after?

Who did they inform?

Who did they talk to?

What did they talk about?

Did they inform the president?

No.

And we have not only had FOIA requests, we have also reached out to many of the players.

You're going to learn a lot of stuff on Wednesday, but we live in a country where this is the

very unpopular narrative in the world

and

the powers that be are already today squashing anyone who says Rittenhouse is innocent.

The algorithms are already squashing

those people who are saying, look at the truth here.

Here's the, this guy's innocent.

They're not looking for truth.

They're not trying to stop hatred.

They're not trying to do anything.

They are trying to win.

If you try to win, eventually you will become so extreme in covering your things up, crimes against humanity will happen if you don't stop.

I've got to prove.

I know I'm right.

These Jews are bad.

And you will just go down the road and you will kill anyone who stands in your way in the end.

You become more and more extreme because you're in it deeper and deeper and deeper that's why people have a hard time saying

you know what i was wrong because they're in so deep they've they've invested so much into what they say they believe

it's a part of them and this is the trick of politics it has It has become part of sports and everything in your life.

Everything is now connected to politics.

That's for a reason.

There is no safe zone.

You've had to make political decisions on everything

you do and everything you say.

It hardens you into whatever side you're on.

I'm asking you to join us on next Wednesday's program.

Next Wednesday's program,

I have been working on this chalkboard now for over a week,

and this has been 18 months in research and about two months in production.

It is commercial-free.

It will be live, but I am going to show you

the answers to the questions that we've all had that just don't make sense.

Once you understand what really happened in real time,

then it makes sense.

sense.

Then you have to ask yourself, is this cover-up a crime?

Did anybody commit a crime here?

I will leave you with this.

There are people, lots of very important people,

that

they weren't trying to save your life.

They were trying to save themselves, their career, and their positions.

That came first over the life of you, your mom, dad, grandmother.

And it still is more important

until we answer these questions and then demand that people are held responsible for what they did.

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The Glenn Beck program.

Okay.

Let's just do let's just do some entertainment here for just a second.

If you're looking for something to watch on TV, if you haven't started watching Yellowstone yet, you must.

It is one of the best shows on television.

Violent,

but

so good.

So good.

There's another show.

Do not watch the American version of this because it's all politics and, quite honestly, not as funny, I think.

Ghosts from the the BBC.

There's this new show maybe on CBS or something called Ghosts and it takes place in America.

Eh.

You'll fall in love with the caveman.

I'm just saying that.

Ghosts.

And you can watch that with the entire family and there's not a problem.

Rare.

Last night,

I guess it was one night only, Rocky 4, the director's

edition, the director's cut, was playing.

And I went with Stu because I know what a fan he is of Rocky.

Yes.

It was a little bit like watching a band you love and have heard their CD a million times and then they're playing it live and it's like a little different and you're like, I don't, I mean, this is cool, but it's also not the thing I'm used to.

It was a little bit of that watching it.

Was it disturbing?

Because I, from time to time, went, okay, so wait a minute, who's that?

Yes.

I mean,

there were a few Glenn asking very basic Rocky questions like

four.

I'm just saying I didn't make it all the way to four.

I think Mr.

T was

the place where I'm like, there's T in a road and I'm going that way.

Well, we know that Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and a lot of the audience cared about ending the Cold War.

Apparently you didn't.

Because as you saw at the end of that film, the Cold War ended on that speech.

What an amazing difference.

I mean, it's shocking to watch that.

It's shocking to watch.

To watch like pure patriotism saying, we're better than the Soviet Union, full stop.

And seeing somebody who

is the underdog

who's an American win.

It's interesting, too, to see they added, and this wouldn't be something you would detect, but they added a lot of the sort of political intrigue moments into it.

I mean, it was always there in the movie, but it was more overt, more dialogue based on that.

I wonder if that's a statement on Sylvester Salone's politics, because, you know, he's kind of famously sort of conservative.

Yeah.

And you wonder if put more of that in.

Maybe.

It's also, I enjoyed it because it was a time tunnel.

Yeah.

You know, it was like, and it kind of shows you the difference between today and stunning.

40 years.

It is truly stunning.

That was only one night, though.

Yeah, well, only one night.

You can watch it on streaming services now.

I'm not sure which one it's on, but it was worth watching.

You can watch it at home.

It was worth watching.

Rocky 4.