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Joshua, you are on the Glenbeck program.

Welcome.

Hi, sir.

You talked about the

fines being placed by the federal government on companies in Texas.

No, on companies anywhere.

Yes, sir.

Does the executive action by Greg Abbott to ban private companies from requiring employees or their customers to be vaccinated against COVID-19 protect you and other employees in the state of Texas?

I don't know.

I have a feeling that's going to have to be decided by the Supreme Court, but you are in luck because I have somebody who has probably the best answer for you, and that is Ken Paxton, our Attorney General of the state of Texas.

Ken, how are you?

Hey, I'm doing well, Glenn.

I hope you're doing well too.

Oh, been a while.

Lovely.

Ken, I just had a call from somebody who we've been talking about the vaccine mandates that are in this new reconciliation bill, $700,000 fines.

I mean, it's crazy stuff.

Does the governor's action protect companies and employees in the state of Texas from having to comply with the federal government?

All right.

So, complicated question because it involves federal workers, which will be probably treated differently than non-federal workers.

And so, it'll depend on who that mandate is going after.

It's harder for us to protect federal workers.

It would have been easier if our legislature passed something that would have explicitly protected workers.

But I can tell you this, if they seek to impose mandates on employees like he's talked about doing, we'll certainly do everything we can to fight it.

That doesn't sound good.

If it was OSHA and it was a regulation, it would be different than

if they stick it into a statute, a federal law.

It makes it harder for us to win.

Well,

they're throwing it into the reconciliation bill.

And it's my understanding that OSHA will be the enforcement arm.

Yeah, and that doesn't surprise me because I think we threaten them with lawsuits if OSHA just did it without any federal law.

Right.

So, I mean, I'd have to see how it's drafted.

We're certainly going to look at it because I don't want my people being controlled by the federal government, being told that they have no choice on vaccine.

Okay.

Let me ask you a couple of other questions.

This is Jen Saki at the White House yesterday.

Cut five, please.

Why is the administration flying thousands of migrants from the border to Florida and New York in the middle of the night?

Well, I'm not sure that it's in the middle of the night, but let me tell you what's happening here.

It is our

4.29 a.m.

Well, here's very early in the morning.

Here we are talking about early flights, earlier than you might like to take a flight.

It is our legal responsibility to safely care for unaccompanied children until they swiftly can be swiftly unified with a parent or a vetted sponsor.

And that's something we take seriously.

We have a moral, a right obligation to

do that, deliver on that.

As a part of the unification process, our Office of Refugee Resettlement facilitates travel for children in its custody to their families or sponsors across the country.

In recent weeks, unaccompanied children passed through the Westchester airport, which I think is what you're referring to, en route to their final destination to be unified with their parents or vetted sponsor.

No surprise.

Is that what's happening

on flights at 2 a.m.

that are just earlier than flights you would like to take?

Well, I thought she tried to dodge that, didn't she, initially?

And she had this forced answer.

No, I know that's going on.

I've seen it in Texas where there are buses that show up in the middle of the night.

In downtown Dallas, I've been told by police officers that they They unload the buses and these people disappear into the night.

So this idea that somehow they're going to some

family member, their parents, is probably not true.

And the reality is, I think the cartels are heavily involved in connecting people across the country because these people pay a lot of money to cross the border.

I think it's close to 8,000, could be more sometimes, sometimes a little less.

But if they can't afford to pay,

they're indentured servants to the cartels for years.

And then, of course, they're being connected to the cartels.

They're all working through the cartels.

Fantastic.

So, what can we do?

What can states do?

What can people do?

This is, I mean, while we're being told we're going to be fired if we don't have a vaccine, they're not even given a COVID test, let alone the double jab.

And then they're just released

into our streets.

This is not about...

This is not about COVID.

This is not about humanitarian.

This is about power and control.

That's all this is about.

Well, no,

you hit the nail on the head.

It's true, because if they really cared about COVID, which, you know, let's just say you don't care about federal law and protecting the border the way you're supposed to.

You don't care about the cartels gaining power.

You don't care about the drug trafficking, people dying from fentanyl all over this is all over the country, which is going to happen more and more.

You don't care about all the crime, the property damage, the cost, the social, the economic cost of the country.

But you have said that you're willing to fire Americans.

And if you're an American, you can't come back into the country if you have COVID.

So you're willing to put harsh restrictions on American citizens.

But at the same time, I was just on the border in Del Reg.

They come across, they're not vaccinated, they're not tested, and they're released.

So there's no way that the Biden administration cares about COVID because then not only that they brought it in, they're sent all over the country with COVID to spread it.

So the idea that they care about COVID at all, one inch, one amount, is a lie.

What'd you learn last week when you were down with the ranchers?

You know what?

It was interesting to talk to people that are honestly scared to death.

Their property property and their cattle and their other animals are being hurt.

They're afraid for their families.

They won't go outside at night.

They carry

a weapon because they're afraid that they're going to get hurt.

They don't know these people.

They don't know if they're terrorists.

They don't know if they're cartel members.

They're not identifying themselves as who they really are.

And so these people are at great risk.

And I'm talking Democrat, Republican.

They don't care.

They are afraid.

And the Democrats will often explain it a little differently.

They say, well, we just don't understand why Joe Biden, why he just doesn't get it.

Well, I don't think that's it.

I think he does get it.

This is exactly what they want.

They want to bring as many illegals in here, whether they're terrorists,

they are criminals, whether they're cartelma.

It doesn't matter.

They want as many as they can get.

My guess is they'll do about two and a half million a year.

And if they can do 10 million and they can hurt the country as much as possible, especially the Republican states, that's what they're trying to do.

This isn't like an accident.

It's not like it randomly happened when they said on the first day, we're not enforcing federal law.

And then

hundreds of thousands of people are coming every month that is not an accident this is purposeful they want this to happen and all the consequences with it are fine with them all the bad consequences are are planned so you filed the state of texas with you six different uh lawsuits against biden where do we stand

So the the most, I think, the most important one right now is the stay in Mexico because that had the most significant impact.

And so that one, we were successful in winning at district court.

It went all the way to the U.S.

Supreme Court.

We were successful, and the Biden administration was ordered to implement the Stay in Mexico program.

As of today, my guess is they haven't done any of that.

And so we've sued them, we've filed a motion to enforce asking the court to monitor them, to give them deadlines, to give us discovery so we know exactly day to day or week to week what they're doing because they have to be held accountable.

At this point, there's there's three branches of government, and there's the state.

They're ignoring the state's rights, they're ignoring the other two branches.

It is a presidency that just doesn't honor any part of the Constitution.

And their view is: look, impeach me.

And they know that won't happen.

So they just literally, the Constitution is meaningless to them.

So then, why, honestly, I don't understand then

if we are a state that believes in the founding documents and the Bill of Rights,

and we are living by those, and they are not.

Why is it that they can come in?

For instance, you know, you said, Well, I don't know if I can protect, you know, for federal employees.

I assume that you mean that too for private employees.

But if they are going through with things that are clearly

a violation of

our Bill of Rights, why does federal law still trump a state law if they're standing for the Constitution?

So here's what I'd say.

We're in the process of sort of testing all of this.

Like, we've never been here before.

We came close to this under Obama, but usually, you know, he would ignore federal law and try to implement his own laws, and we would fight him, and we would get a court order, and they would stop.

Usually it worked.

I mean, it worked.

We won 80% of our cases against them.

The difference here now is that it appears, and this is still, we're still in the process of seeing if the system can stay in place where we can actually have a court order and get it implemented.

So far that is not working, but that's where we're going back.

So I do think at some point if we have this realization, look, there's nothing you can do to make this president operate under the Constitution, I think we have a whole different question.

And we're back to the Declaration of Independence saying, hey, this government needs to be reformed in a way that is drastic because the reality is they don't honor any of the Constitution.

These rights are not from them.

They're They're from God.

And they don't have a right.

Joe Biden doesn't have a right to ignore the First Amendment like he's trying to do, or the Fourth Amendment, or the Tenth Amendment.

It's not up to him.

It's up to us.

The Fourth Amendment right now, with what they're doing with banking, and everybody's looking at it and saying, you know, oh my gosh, $600 or $10,000.

It's not about that.

It is about control.

It's the second half of the modern monetary theory.

It is about being able to control what people spend and do to be able able to, they think, control inflation.

That's the actual theory.

And we're only doing one half of it right now.

But what is in this reconstruction bill is allowing the IRS, is telling the banks that they have to report to the IRS all of our activity.

That's a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

And I don't see any I don't see any banks standing up and saying, no, we're not going to do that.

Look, we just had this whole issue with the airlines who were

including Southwest.

And we had a protest, the pilots protested, the employees protested two mornings ago, and I was out there speaking.

And these companies tend to feel the pressure.

Biden has a gun to their heads and says, hey, we're taking away your federal money.

You're going to be punished if you don't do what we said.

So he's not doing this by, you know, there may be some companies that actually want to do this, but he's not doing this in a, you know,

hey, let's all work together.

This is like, we are threatening you.

We're going to hurt you.

And if you don't do what we say, I mean, this is very much like a non-free country now.

And this is the administration that is operating in a way that we've never seen before.

And the reality is, I think when we went out of protest, Software Stairlines and some of these other companies said, okay, we're not going to fire these people.

So if we could still, if we're not afraid and we're willing to fight and enough people aren't afraid and are willing to speak out, even under threat of FBI investigation and prosecution, which they have threatened parents who speak in front of their school boards, we cannot shut up.

None of us.

I can't believe we live in these times, Ken.

But

we all have our times.

We are all called at this time to do what we're supposed to.

And I guess this gives us the opportunity to see who we really are supposed to be or who we allow ourselves to become in our shame later.

Ken, thank you so much.

Absolutely.

It's a time to fight.

I hope Americans will not put up with this and stand up and fight.

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The queen has been told by her doctors that she needs to stay on bed rest and cancel her trip to

Northern Ireland, which,

oh my gosh.

Can you imagine losing the queen now and having Prince Charles?

She's got to be in her Rolls-Royce going, excuse me,

do you have like some really

spoiled mayonnaise

that I could give my son right now?

I'm just

no mom wouldn't do that.

No, I don't think mom would do that.

The queen might.

The queen might.

The queen might.

The queen would be like, I've got to protect England and my son will be a nightmare.

Okay.

That's wrong.

The other thing is the job doesn't actually do anything.

So I don't think it's all that

who holds it.

Oh, he'll destroy England.

Will he?

Wow.

He has no power.

Oh, he will.

He will.

That thing will be,

you know,

the palaces,

those things are going to be museums in no time.

But again, that wouldn't destroy the country.

That would do nothing.

None of that.

Nothing related to the British royal family means anything.

That's the summary of all the stories about the British royal family.

I'll give you that, but it is a tradition that

I'm not paying for, so I like.

You know what I mean?

If I lived in England, I'd hate them.

I'd hate them.

Because why?

Wait, I'm paying.

Wait, what am I doing?

Hang on.

No, I don't think so.

But I'm American, so I kind of like it.

We have a tradition of a monarchy, so we're just going to spend...

No, they're going to.

No, I'm saying if you were in England,

we're going to do what now?

We're just going to buy them all this stuff?

Yeah, that's what I would be saying.

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

And I would be saying abolish the monarchy.

I would be saying that.

But since I'm a tourist,

I think it's kind of quaint and cool.

This is a cool palace.

Right, right.

It's really neat.

I like that.

Look, they have guards.

Let's try to make them laugh.

That's our.

I think it's an important tradition that Americans started long ago.

And

we can't lose those guys in the funny hats.

Can't.

Can't.

What are our kids going to do when they go over to England if they can't try to make that guy laugh?

Just drink Guinness.

And I'm about to tell my kids to start drinking.

Let me give you a couple of things here.

First, First,

may I just say thank you to In-N-Out Burger.

The In-N-Out.

I knew I had you in.

In-N-Out Burger, didn't I?

The San Francisco In-N-Out Burger was shut down after employees allegedly didn't check for customers' vaccine document.

Oh, my gosh.

You must be vaccinated because for all the healthy activity you're about to participate in inside the In-N-Out Burger, you must be protected.

Right.

In San Francisco, people have been required since August 20th to show proof that they've been vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to enter some indoor places like restaurants, gyms, and bars.

I'm sure Home Depot is fine.

Still.

The fast food restaurant located in Fisherman's Wharf was forced to shut down on October 14th, but has now reopened with indoor dining remaining unavailable, the company said.

A statement, In-N-Out chief, legal and business officer Arnie Wisensinger

defended not having employees check their customers' vaccine status.

Now, don't you want to hear this from more companies?

We refuse to become the vaccine police for any government.

We fiercely disagree with any government dictate that forces a private company to discriminate against customers who choose to patronize their business.

This is a clear government overreach.

Amen.

That is fantastic.

You know, there's an argument to be made.

If you want to come up with a vaccine mandate that you want to police, then use your police to do it, right?

You're forcing these companies to micromanage the health of everybody that's being forced.

Some are being forced.

Not all of them.

Yeah, and that's the thing.

There's so much of this you could just ignore.

I mean, look, we should fight against it because it's wrong.

But so much of this you can ignore.

I was talking to, I think it was Ami Horowitz was in town.

And you know, Ami.

I love him.

Great filmmaker, does a lot of great things.

And we've talked to him a bunch of times.

And I asked him, I'm like, what's it like in New York right now?

That's where he lives.

They've got these vaccine mandates to walk in the door of these restaurants.

I'm like, what's real life like?

He said, some places are doing it, but vast majority, you just go in and no one says anything to you.

You know, I mean, and that's, I like, this is the thing, you know, we talk about all of this stuff so often and so much of it is focused on the government policy, which is important.

But there's a big element of this that if you just don't do it, it doesn't happen.

If you're a business owner, NPR hasn't convinced somebody in your employee to rat on you to OSHA.

And someone will in a lot of these bigger movies.

But again, so much of this can just be ignored.

You know, I mean, so much of this can just be, you know,

we have speeding mandates all over every single town.

And the people who want to go the speed they want to go generally just go that speed.

You know, I mean, and like, yes, yes,

sometimes they pull people over, but like, everyone kind of knows it's a joke.

People go the speed that they think is appropriate 90% of the time.

And

we sometimes give too much credence to government.

You know, we don't listen to them.

And this is the United States of America.

We do what we think is right most of the time.

And sometimes people get caught up in overreach of government.

So we must fight back against it.

I'm not saying we shouldn't, but we also should

take responsibility for our own actions and standing up against this stuff personally.

It's not always just about what the government does.

Well,

may I just say,

friends.

Yes.

Friends, I'd like to open the scriptures right now.

You see, friends, it was the 11th century BC

in the land of Israel.

Samuel had been the judge of Israel.

And his sons who took his place had fallen away.

They had fallen away.

Amen.

They had fallen away.

Now, friends, this was a judge.

This was a judge, not the same thing as a king.

The true king of the Israelites was God.

Amen.

Hallelujah.

Can I get a name out?

I didn't ask for it.

Hallelujah.

Amen.

Thank you.

The judges were the people who God used to rescue Israel from its enemies and there were many many enemies and the judges were usually held high in esteem can I get an amen you can get an amen but the sons of Samuel straight away oh they wanted that evil lucre they wanted their money they distorted justice in exchange for bribes

They forgot the way of life that God had given them.

And so the people,

the people all gathered together and they began to cry out for a king.

Give me a king.

King!

I don't, that's not how this.

And they said, give us a king to judge us.

And Samuel didn't want to do this.

So he asked God for advice.

And God said to Samuel,

If the people ask for a king,

I mean,

I mean, they're rejecting me, but, you know, they don't want me to be their king.

Fine, I don't have to be their king.

Beat it.

Or something like that.

You see, the Israelites were stubborn, and God knew it.

So he told Samuel to warn.

Hey, if you want a king, you know, to rule over you,

this guy's going to draft your sons into service, gonna make your daughters work in the kitchen, take the best crops, redistribute them, impose heavy taxes.

You know, it's just tell them that, will you?

Tell them it's from me.

They'll get it.

So Samuel told the people,

he said,

we don't want to, we don't want a king.

And they said, we want to be like other nations.

We want a king to fight our battles.

And so God warned the Israelites that he could not save them for the consequences of their choice.

that a king would do all of those terrible things.

And when they cried for freedom, God

was like,

Oh, you want me now?

Oh, I thought you didn't want me.

I thought you wanted a king.

Why don't you cry to a king to have him save you?

Because I told you, you got to do your part, you got to do the things that you want to do.

And when

you cry out for a king, you're going to get it, and he's going to control everything.

And Israel received the king that they asked for.

Can I get an amen?

Running low on amen

supply chain issues.

All right, stop.

This is what's brilliant about the Bible.

It lays out universal truths about human nature.

We are all looking for someone to come in and save us.

And really, it's us that need to save ourselves.

If you want a king, to save us.

If you want somebody to ride in on their white horse to save save us, I'm warning you right now, that's the wrong way to go.

That's what the Democrats did.

They wanted to get rid of Donald Trump and they said, he is a king.

He's going to do all these things and subject our children to the flag and stuff.

And so they voted for a different kind of king.

People will give up the burden of freedom for the ease of the moment.

I want you to listen to that.

People will give up the burden of freedom.

What is the burden of freedom?

What does that mean?

To be free, it carries a heavy price.

You have to do stuff.

If you want to be free,

And you don't want a king to rule over you, that means you have to rule over you.

And you have to make some really tough decisions.

You can't say, you know what, give the power to keep all of us safe to a king because once that power is given to that king, that power is not

going to give it back.

You read stories in history and it keeps repeating itself over and over and over again.

Why?

Because people are stupid.

People think this time it's different.

And you know, one time it was the American experiment.

It was truly revolutionary.

They were not crying out for a king, they cried out for the king to be removed.

They were willing to die for the burden of a free conscience.

Where the Israelites rejected God as their king in the story, the new Americans declared only God could be man's king and no other man.

Now, you would expect when America

falls back and we lose our way

that we would fall back to the original factory settings, but we're not.

And we fall back into the cycle of bondage.

America changed everything.

It is the longest standing democracy or republic in the world.

Every free nation looks to us as the model of liberty.

They may not agree with our choices,

but we have always been the nation of God,

and God was our king.

The problems we have today is we are expecting and crying out for a king and a government to solve our problems.

Anyone who we agree with to give all the power so we can go back to our lives.

That's what we're looking for.

We're not looking for representatives.

We want kings.

That means we're the Israelites.

It means means we don't want God as our king anymore.

And just like the Israelites, if we keep asking for a king, that is exactly what we will get

and exactly what we will deserve.

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Imagine you're a free woman.

You're 20.

You're just going along your average day, and you think that, you know, I live in a stable country and these crazy things are not going to happen.

Even though people are saying, no, no, no, they're coming, they're coming.

You really didn't believe it.

And now you're walking down the street and you hear the U.S.

president say, we're pulling out of Afghanistan.

Now things have changed.

This is the true rescue story of a woman named Asma

who was trapped in Afghanistan, her and

over 100 others, all women.

Tonight at 9 o'clock, we're doing a special on this, and I want you to hear just a couple of pieces here she is August 15th

it was a good day I had plans like to go to bank and withdraw some money and then go and meet my sister she was working close by the bank it was also in Jahranao Kabul

as usual

and because of too much traffic I decided to get out of the car and walk

because it's gonna be faster.

I was walking, it takes two minutes then

I hear the

fire,

the bullets,

the gunfire.

Did you know what it was?

No, I didn't know anything.

I was stopping there and I was looking around myself.

Everyone starts screaming and everyone starts running.

For the moment I just lost where I am, what just happened.

What's amazing is on the other side of

the planet, her sister was at home in the Washington, D.C.

area, watching all of this unfold, knowing that her sister was somewhere there.

Here's the next question.

I was really scared.

Really.

You were all by yourself.

Everybody is there.

Yes.

And when you're looking, you can...

What you can do for your family just makes me feel...

First I want to hear where they are.

I called my dad.

I tried to call my mom.

She wasn't online.

I tried to keep calling my sister.

Finally, I

get a phone with my sister.

She was in her office.

She was crying.

I asked her,

why you're crying?

What happened?

Are you okay?

She said,

I just received a call from ASMO

and she was also, she told me,

don't come out of your office, they are here.

Eventually, there were seven buses of schoolgirls at the Kabul airport at the gate.

And they were trapped, and you know what was going to happen to them.

But because of these two girls who you will see tonight in the show, who helped themselves first,

I believe God intervened and helped them.

But you have to take the first step.

And they did, while the rest of the bus and the girls didn't know what to do,

asthma

did some heroic things that you have to see tonight only on Blaze TV.

I want to thank

the people that have helped in recovery.

In the car on the way from Macedonia to Albania, communicating with Asthma in Kabul and Azuda, I think she's in Nebraska actually, was Gino, Chris, Soraya, and Al from the Nazarene Fund.

Blaine from E3 Ranch Foundation.

Coordinating remotely with the car and the DOD was Francisco from Arxis International.

Wade and Jim from Commercial Task Force, volunteers who worked from a rented conference room at the Willard Hotel in DC,

and then a lot of people at COMTF whose names, honestly, we don't even know, including those from No One Left Behind and Samaritan's Purst was in this.

But honestly, the ones who really

who really got it going

was Azuda, the sister, and Asthma.

And you you will understand it tonight.

It's an amazing story, amazing story.

Something we have not done a show like this before.

You don't want to miss it tonight at 9 p.m.

Put some good news into your life tonight.

I want to introduce Nick McKinley.

He's the founder and executive director of Deliver Fund,

who is one of the partners that we partner with them and do all that we can.

I just wanted to get an update on some of the stuff that you guys are doing now and give us some good news because I think people think that this has all stopped.

No, not only

has it not stopped, it's doubled down.

We have ongoing operations that, you know, we did Operation Soccer Balls in conjunction with Nazarene Fund.

It was a great success.

Those girls are currently in Lisbon.

We are developing a long-term long-term landing pad, essentially, for them and an Afghan diaspora within Lisbon for them to be able to really kind of create whatever life they want.

And that's an important thing for people to understand, your listeners to understand, is that

think about

these girls.

I mean, yes, women, but also young girls, young teenage girls who are not free to do something as simple as kick a ball in their backyard.

That's crazy.

So Think about that.

And imagine if,

I mean, all of the things that we take for granted, and even in the current environment, all of the liberties that we still have, that we take for granted, and they aren't free to even kick a ball in their backyard, much less go on to be world class at that.

And so now these girls are in Lisbon.

They are

being supported by the Portuguese government, by DeliverFund, by by some of our ministry partners like Reload Love.

And

they're free to really become whoever they want to become.

They're free to become a professional soccer player.

They're free to choose not to play soccer anymore ever again and do something else.

And that's actually the good news.

I think Nazarene Fund, I think I was talking to Rudy yesterday.

You guys have gotten like 24 flights out.

It's absolutely amazing.

That is a significant number of people and at significant expense that has

really there's a liberty and a freedom that all of those people are going to get to experience.

I don't think people understand the generational impact.

It is, I mean, think of the Jews that were saved from the concentration camps

and think of the impact their families have had because they survived.

Absolutely.

It's the same story here.

The generational impact is going to be remarkable.

Remarkable.

Well,

the generational impact globally is absolutely remarkable, and you're 100% correct there.

However, the thing nobody's really talking about is they're acting like Afghanistan is a lost cause.

Now,

it's not a lost cause.

It's a significant setback for sure, but it is not a lost cause.

I mean,

the church in Afghanistan proliferated over a 20-year period in a way that it otherwise would not have been able to.

That church has since obviously gone primarily underground,

but it's still there.

I know of a couple of missionaries that are in a certain city in Afghanistan who, Western missionaries, who went underground and were offered the opportunity to leave, and they said, no, we're staying.

This is what we're called to do.

I mean, the absolute courage there.

The fact that there were female, especially young girls, sports teams.

Those sports teams, while they've primarily gone underground or have disbanded or been taken out of the country, those young girls will tell their siblings stories about how they used to get to play soccer.

And I will tell you, I don't think that the people who are outside of the country, I mean, they want to go back.

They want their country.

They love their country as much as we, well, I was going to say, some of us love our country.

And they do want to go back.

And I think that they are going to come back stronger and they will find a way.

That's a lot of people.

That's a lot of people globally.

Well, almost

just as importantly, you've got Afghans now.

You were just talking about, you know, God helps those who help themselves, right?

And while,

you know,

while that's true in many instances, now you have people who aren't worried about whether or not they're going to get pulled out of their house and forced into a marriage with a Taliban fighter.

They're not worried about whether or not they're going to get pulled out of their house and, you know, tortured or their head cut off.

They have food, they have shelter, they have bandwidth to think, which means that they can now be more of a help to their own countrymen because it's very difficult to help other people, right, to feed the world when you're starving yourself.

Correct.

But if you aren't starving, now you have the ability, and especially if you have excess, now you have the ability to help those others.

And that's another kind of just good news story that's coming out of all these evacuations and these girls who are in

Lisbon, who, you know, some of them will go on to become world-class soccer players.

You will see one of them, at least one, if not multiples, in the Olympics.

This will happen.

And what that will do is it will shine a light on the problem.

Part Part of the problem, I think, for the American people over the last 20 years, and I mean, I've got 30 combat deployments myself for my time in government.

So I understand Afghanistan really well.

And part of the problem is that there were no faces to the Afghan people.

It was just, it was the Afghan people, is the problem over there.

You know, we would

lose, you know, soldiers, we would lose Americans, but we weren't really talking about the Afghans.

And it's hard for

Nick McKinley, a white blue-eyed American, to really get people to

get people to understand the Afghan issue.

But now you have Afghan women, Afghan men who can talk to the world about the Afghan issue.

And that is really going to help shine a light on the problem.

And not only that, but, you know, I fight human trafficking.

I mean, that's, that's what DeliverFund does all day, every day.

And

we aren't going to shift the entire organization to suddenly take on, you know, advocating on behalf of Afghan women.

We're going to continue to rescue Afghan women and children who are at risk of trafficking.

Yes, that we will do, but that's, you know, the Liberal Fund is not going to suddenly become an Afghanistan-based 501c3.

However,

the Afghans that have left, they will continue to carry the torch for this issue.

Well, it's important, too, I think, for everybody to know that not only that people in Afghanistan have real lives and real futures and real hopes and dreams, but also I think it's important to tell the story of the work that you're doing, the work that the Nazarene Fund has done, the work that this audience has done, because it shows that we can actually make a difference in these things.

And Glenn hates when I focus on the media coverage of all this.

This is ridiculous.

And I only do it partially because he hates it.

But let me ask you this, because I saw this article that they wrote in Vice that you were quoted in.

It was about all of these rescues.

And when I read it,

what you say,

and they're giving you lots of credit for this and your organization, for all of these rescues,

deservedly so.

And several other groups.

But of course,

anytime Glenn's involved,

they always go after him and try to make him look like he had nothing to do with this.

You, throughout the article, are clear that the Nazarene Fund and this audience played a really important role in this, but they butt your quotes up against unnamed Biden officials who seem to downplay what the role is.

Oh, you said that we stood in the way.

Yeah.

So what is the truth here?

So

I've said it publicly.

I think I've said it publicly on your show before, and I'll say it again.

Without the help of Rudy Atala.

And Rudy only is able to do what it is that he's able to do because he's supported by the Nazarene Fund, right?

Right.

I mean,

yes, my Deliver Fund team did an amazing job.

Robert,

the folks from USAID, Samantha Power, you know, as part of the Biden administration, I mean, they did phenomenal things.

Senator Chris Coons, absolutely amazing, the stuff that he did.

However,

it's a huge team effort.

And one of the things that I think everybody needs to understand is in these crises,

these are apolitical.

Especially with what we're doing at DeliverFund, where we're focused on women and children, this is apolitical.

This is a you're with us or against us issue.

And if you're against us, as we like to say at DeliverFund, thank you for self-identifying as a target.

Well, our analysts will be making you their hobby.

But for

For these types of issues, it's just everybody comes together in a crisis.

There's no philosophical debate about what we should or should not do.

It's people are in danger and we need to help them.

So there were definitely all sorts of groups here, but the Nazarene Fund was important here.

It was super important.

This audience didn't waste their time with all of this.

No, no.

In fact, and I said this before, and I really want to hone in on this point because this was the linchpin in the entire thing.

There's two things, actually, that

the Nazarene Fund, and then you specifically, Glenn,

did that

solved two of our biggest problems.

One was

Cam Air.

Yeah.

Cam Air is a phenomenal organization, and I have nothing but good things to say about them.

However, as a charter company, they were racking and stacking customers.

And so I believe

we were their number one customer.

You guys were their number one customer.

You're probably their number one paying customer, period,

forever.

No, no, no, no.