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Australia's leading the way.

Here is the Deputy Premier of New South Wales on vaccines.

The message to the unvaccinated is that you will not achieve any further freedom unless you get vaccinated.

And a further and final message to regional New South Wales.

There are parts of regional New South Wales that are currently open.

The 70% roadmap does apply to the whole state.

So there will be individuals in regional and rural New South Wales who choose not to be vaccinated, who will lose their freedoms on the 11th of October.

So my message to everybody in regional and rural New South Wales is to continue to get vaccinated.

Yeah, there's new freedoms coming for those who are vaccinated, new freedoms.

But if you're not vaccinated, you lose your freedom, saith the Lord.

Wow.

It's not like we're getting militant about things here at all.

Oh, speaking of that,

we should probably also listen to the New Yorker because they've got a new idea.

Should we, for the sake of the planet,

start

acting violently?

I mean

let's be honest, it is about the planet and there are some people who just won't listen.

And we're the scary ones.

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yeah

all right so

you're gonna lose your freedom if you are in Australia if you don't get vaccinated you're gonna lose your freedom that's great for Australia here's the here's the problem in America we have this little thing called the Declaration of Independence and governments are instituted among men to protect those freedoms.

And when a government becomes hostile to those freedoms, it is the people's right and it is their duty to throw off the chains of that and create a new government that is not hostile to those freedoms.

So in other words, you can't break away because you want to have slavery.

But I think it's pretty clear you can break away if you want to just live by the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence because the old government started forgetting about the whole freedom thing.

Well, I hate to even say that because people are saying, He's advocating violence,

he's saying we should go into a civil war, which I'm not saying at all.

Oh my gosh, these people on the right, they're so dangerous.

I know.

Let's do something.

Let's do something safe, shall we?

Let's just read The New Yorker and listen to their podcast because they talk about books and things like that.

And they had Andreas Maum on, who is really great.

I just want you to listen.

Here's cut one.

Andreas Maum is a professor at Lund University in Sweden.

He studies the relationship between climate change and capitalism.

And he advocates for far more drastic action than we've seen so far.

His recent book, How to Blow Up a Pipeline,

is a bit more nuanced than the title suggests, but at its core,

he really does want environmental activists to rethink their commitment to nonviolence and embrace tactics of sabotage.

Stop just a second.

Let me get this straight.

So, Stu, I believe we have to discuss this like this.

I believe when he says it's more nuanced than the title

really kind of leads you to believe, how to blow up a pipeline, it doesn't sound like it really does,

that it is more nuanced, because he then just went and said,

but it's more nuanced than the title would seem,

but he really does want people to think about

dumping the nonviolence thing.

Well, Glenn, the nuance that's associated with the title, How to Blow Up a Pipeline, just, of course, indicates that there are far more things that you can blow up.

Oh, not just a pipeline that you can't do.

You can blow up a pipeline, thank you.

A tanker ship, chip.

I can see things more clearly now that you speak like this.

You could blow up a bunch of schoolchildren who exhale CO2.

All these things are options

for the future of environmental.

Thank you very much.

Back to the podcast.

I spoke with Andreas' mom last week.

Andreas, you've been a climate activist now for a long time.

And in 2007, you were part of a Swedish group that started deflating the tires on SUVs.

Tell me about that.

What was the impulse and how did it work?

Yeah, so what we did was we went through rich neighborhoods and picked out SUVs.

This was in the early career of SUVs when they were still remarkable on streets, before they were completely ubiquitous.

And it's very easy to deflate the tires of a car you just unscrew the valve and you insert a little gravel or a piece of stone or something like that and you

screw the the valve back on and then the air will be out of the tire in a couple of hours so this was no property destruction it didn't damage anything

it it created an inconvenience for the owners of SUVs

okay all right all right so this began his journey towards civil disobedience cut to what was the moment that you realized that your next book would have to be about targeted sabotage and why?

That moment was very much the summer of 2018, which was unprecedented in Northern Europe for the wildfires and the drought and the heat wave.

And during that summer, I felt panic and desperation, as a lot of people did.

This was the summer that led Giriata Turnbari to start her later very famous school strike movement.

And that sort of changed the picture because in 2019, all the way up to the outbreak of the pandemic, the climate movement in the global north reached its zenith of mobilization, really its peak of popular force out on the streets.

So the book

became a product of the moment of 2019, but it's also a call for escalation, a call for the movement to

diversify its tactics and move away from

an exclusive focus on polite,

gentle, and perfectly peaceful civil disobedience.

Right.

Okay.

So here's the left now on in the New Yorker and on the podcast talking about how we, you know, it's not so bad to put rocks into people's airbag, air valves with graval,

otherwise known as gravel,

and let the air out.

It's an inconvenience, sure, but it doesn't do any harm.

But then, now we really see that we really have to go away from non-violence because it's really not working.

So here he is on blowing up a pipeline.

What actions are you recommending for the movement?

Well, I am recommending that the movement

continues with mass action and civil disobedience, but also opens up for property destruction.

So I'm not saying we should stop strikes or

square occupations or demonstrations of the usual kind.

I'm all in favor of that.

But I do think we need to step up because so little has changed and so many investments are still being poured into new fossil fuel projects.

So I am in favor of destroying machines, property, not harming people.

That's a very

important distinction there.

Very important.

And I think property can be destroyed in all manner of ways or it can be neutralized in a a very gentle fashion, as when we defated the SUVs, or in a more spectacular fashion, as in potentially blowing up a pipeline that's under construction.

That's something that people have done.

So you are recommending blowing up a pipeline.

You use the phrase intelligent sabotage.

What does intelligence sabotage look like in this context?

Well, let me give you a very concrete example.

Right now, Total, the largest single private company headquartered in France, is constructing what will be the world's longest heated oil pipeline in Uganda and Tanzania, and displacing in that process about 100,000 farmers, all for the sake of carrying even more oil to the world market to pour fuel on the global fire.

If people in that region were to attack the construction equipment, blow up the pipeline before it's completed, I would be all in favor of that.

I don't see how that property damage could be

considered morally illegitimate, given what we know of the consequences of such a project.

So the ends justify the means, is what he's saying here.

Remember, you are the dangerous one.

We're just a bunch of journalists at the New Yorker that are just exploring different ideas.

Today's idea, blowing things up and destroying property.

Very, very, very different than killing people, of course.

You know,

nobody was killed in the Capitol.

Well, some one person was killed, but that was by a police officer.

But police officers, in this case, are all good and should never be questioned.

But the property was destroyed there in the Capitol, and that is completely different than blowing up a pipeline.

And Glenn, I will note...

for the listeners that machines don't run on their own.

The people who show up to work at these facilities are part of the machinery.

They

are

basically

parts of the machine.

And if they are parts of the machine, they also

destroy panics.

And that sounds like a machine to me, quite honestly.

Yeah.

Working on machines.

If they are not there, then these environmental cataclysms will not occur.

So obviously killing people who work for these companies

at the site.

And honestly, those people wouldn't show up if they were not paid.

So the executives of the company

are also fair targets.

And to be able to

do that, maybe the banks.

Well, they fund the banks.

Anyone who works at a bank, I think would fund Wall Street.

Wall Street would be a good target.

Any shareholder of a company like this.

Absolutely.

What about the companies that provide electricity and water to the banks, to these facilities?

They are basically guilty.

Yeah,

they're giving aid and comfort to an enemy.

What if we killed all people other than us?

Well, I

don't

know.

We just

written out a plan.

I've had, yeah, oh, yeah, we've had a plan for how to eliminate people for a long time.

Oh, wow.

I'm glad you brought this up because, oh, thank goodness.

I've been carrying this around for so long.

And, you know, we all know: wink, wink, nod, nod, we're not going to kill people.

Oh, my.

Oh, that's rich.

No, it's not rich.

Rich, bad.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Rich is very, very bad.

Unless we're the ones that are rich, then it's really, really

good.

You know what I mean?

Here's cut four.

And yet climate activist groups like 350.org and Extinction Rebellion have made clear that nonviolence is central to their approach.

Do you think that's been a mistake or a tactical error?

Yeah, so I have nothing against the tactics employed by these groups.

I have very often participated in them myself.

What I have a problem with is when Extinction Rebellion and people from 350 and elsewhere say that these are the only things that our movement can ever allow itself to engage in.

As in, what we are doing is as far as we will ever go, will never escalate beyond this.

And I think that idea, this dogmatic commitment to non-violence, is based on a faulty

history writing or understanding of social struggles over history because it's based on the idea that the only thing that has ever worked for social movements is to stay completely peaceful.

And that just isn't the case.

Most social movements that have struggled against overwhelming odds, against enemies that have been very powerful, have diversified and used

a number of different tactics, ranging into property destruction and confrontation with the police.

You saw this during

the uprising after the murder of George Floyd, where there was tremendous property destruction and conquering and burning down police stations in Minneapolis and things like that.

That was an integral part of an uprising that brought

millions of people into the streets of the U.S.

than any other in American history.

Wow, that is amazing.

It's weird that the left seems to know that.

But wait, I

was told

that the gorilla was largely non-violent.

Largely non-violent.

Almost, I don't think there was any

violence.

What I saw was people that were committed to a cause.

By the way,

the FCC needs to investigate its own history of racism and examine how its policy choices and actions have harmed black people and other communities of color.

Now,

this is coming from a left-wing group that is funded by the Center for American Progress and George Soros's Open Society Foundations.

They're wonderful.

They're called the Free Press.

You might remember them.

But they said, what do we have to do?

Do we have to,

how many, are we going to have to just shoot Republicans to reclaim our democracy?

Now, you might think that that's violent,

but it's not being covered in the press at all, even though that's a letter they wrote to the FCC.

Are we going to have to shoot Republicans to reclaim our democracy?

That is really not so important, okay?

Because they have a reason to do that.

Things are really, really tough.

And, you know, they're not just, they're not just saying, let's shoot Republicans.

They're saying we have to reshape the media.

And that is so important.

And if we can't get people to move, then maybe we should shoot Republicans.

And

it's very nuanced.

Very nuanced.

We have been telling people that they're not allowed to have firearms.

So how will we be shooting all the Republicans?

We can have them, right?

We can have them.

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Wow.

And we are the dangerous ones.

We

are

the dangerous ones.

By the way, good news, my friends.

Biden got his booster shot yesterday.

We were all worried about it, wondering when is he going to get it.

Cut nine, here he he is getting his booster shot.

We have plenty, plenty of opportunities to make sure we get

everyone in the world to play our part.

He just played his part in the world, but getting everyone vaccinated.

Very hairy art.

How many Americans need to be vaccinated for us to go back to normal?

Like, what is the percentage of total vaccinations that have to be deployed?

Well, I think,

look,

I think we get

the vast majority of what is going on in some of the some industries and some schools,

97, 98%.

I think we're awful close.

97 or 98% before we're close.

That's a hell of a goal.

Yeah.

So is there a stop?

Is there an issue with that, Stu?

He's just asking for 97 or 98% of all people to be vaccinated before we could go back to normal.

When your plan revolves around basically full compliance, usually those plans don't work.

They don't tend to work.

Well, they they will.

People make decisions.

He's losing his patience.

He is losing his patience with people.

Yes, and we have now fully seen 50% of the increases of the last two months of vaccination rates have disappeared since he announced the mandate.

Half of the gains of the past two months have disappeared since he announced the mandate, which is a really good thing.

If you're one of those people who are thinking, I'd like to get more people vaccinated, this would be the opposite of the result you'd desire.

However...

Are you blaming it on him?

I don't.

You know, I don't know.

Honestly, when it first started happening, I thought maybe it was a weird Labor Day data quirk.

Like, you know, a lot of people, because there's a couple days there where they didn't turn in really any results from the data

and the new vaccinations.

But no, it's, it's,

ever since he went on television and said, I'm losing my patience with you.

Our patience is running thin, people have stopped going to get vaccinated in large numbers.

Wow, why do you think that is, Stu?

I don't know.

It just seems as if they're acting

almost like their goal is that

everyone gets vaccinated except their political enemies.

That's that's it's almost like that's what they feel like.

It's interesting.

And it's almost like Americans are acting like Americans.

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You're not going to tell me what to do.

Does seem that way a little bit?

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Right now, a senator is just saying, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Listen.

Invasion of Iraq.

There he is.

He's fantastic.

And this is the beginning of the Senate Armed Service Committee hearing on Afghanistan.

General Milley is going to be testifying today, and we are going to be covering that.

He's got some lossy.

He's got some splendid to do.

What could he possibly tell us?

He's spoken to every author in America that's written a book about the Trump administration.

Why does he need it?

What else could he possibly say?

He seems to be the main source

of every book that's been released in the past year.

He's incredible.

He's incredible.

He's general, too.

Like, you'd think this is not the guy who's going to be continually leaking to the media.

Yeah, he's got to answer for

the call to China

and Afghanistan.

Which has gone very, very well, right, Pat?

Yes.

Oh, Afghanistan's gone perfectly.

It was

massively successful.

It was enormously successful.

And you couldn't see it now as anything other than a success.

Well, I don't know how you'd do it any better.

You can't.

You can't.

You just can't do it any better.

Every other war

has ended this way.

Exactly.

Exactly the same way.

And shame and humiliation.

Each and every one of them.

Each and every one of them.

Usually by the losers,

not the one with the military firepower.

Yeah, right.

Usually.

In this case, a little bit of a remix of that situation.

Well,

I liked

Saki over the weekend saying that she was just really tired of Republicans blaming Afghanistan and the border on this administration.

She was just really tired of it.

Yeah.

I'd be tired if I were her, too, because everyone's doing it and she has to answer for it all the time.

So I'm sure she is tired of it.

Problem is, it is their fault.

Yeah, so that's a problem.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay.

You're just going to go there without hearing Millie.

Let's listen to some more Senator Reed here.

Man, he's good.

That's really good.

You know, the thing about these hearings is

they just, all the senators, they don't, they're not actually interested in what the person has to say.

Have you noticed?

It's so bad.

I hate that.

I really do hate these hearings because it's all pre-written stuff by these senators who just do a speech.

And when the person tries to answer the question, they just cut them off to get to their next big moment that I guess is going to raise dollars in their next fundraising email.

They want to have these like little YouTube moments.

Now, occasionally, we get something out of that.

I think we've seen, for example, Rand Paul be very effective with Anthony Fauci and these things.

It's not without

entirely worthless, but

you're going to hear basically the Democrats say, look how bad Trump was.

And you're going to see the Republicans give their speeches about

Millie and how he shouldn't have talked to China.

These are both valid, you know, you could argue whether they're valid points or not, right?

But they're valid points for their own sides.

The question is, I want stuff from Millie.

I want him to be asked questions.

I want him, like Rand Paul did, specific questions where, you know,

we're giving, where Fauci answering them gave us something.

gave us a better understanding of that situation.

So drop.

That really was.

And that's what we want, right?

We want someone who's going to actually ask a question that's going to elicit some sort of response.

And the speech itself makes no difference.

Right.

And not only elicit a response, but put them on the record one way or another.

You know, did you make that phone call?

Yes or no?

Who did you speak to about it?

Who is on the phone call?

Did you ever tell the president about that phone call?

Yes or no?

And we know he made the phone call.

I know.

And

he's never denied any of this.

No.

Well, he can't.

I mean, we've got him on record.

We've got him on, you know, recordings.

He has responded and said that it wasn't bad, right?

He said that.

Of course, he says he didn't do anything bad.

Right.

Yeah, he did.

Yeah, he did.

I mean, first of all, this is what they got General Franklin.

Oh, yeah, you did.

You should be on there.

I thought that would be.

I mean, this is what they got General Flynn on.

Remember?

The Logan Act.

Because he called and said, look, there's a new administration coming in.

Let's not escalate to the point where we can't ratchet things back down.

Don't do anything.

Okay.

And he got in trouble for that.

How dare him do that?

Well, I personally think that one is okay.

He's calling on behalf of the incoming president and saying,

let's take a breath here.

Just take a breath.

Don't do anything until we get into office, you know, because we're going to have a different approach.

I think that was very wise of him to do.

I mean, that's what they would argue they were doing.

That's what Millie would argue he was doing.

He called up and he said, look,

we know it's not a problem.

Not on behalf of the now.

Not on behalf of the president.

He worked for the president.

That's the problem.

He is

the

chief of

staff, right?

So it would be okay for the

blink coming.

Yeah, blink and students to call up and say, hey, look, things are going to be better in a couple weeks.

Hold on.

Correct.

Not for the guy who is currently the advisor to the president and telling him that I'll call you if anything bad's going to happen and not telling the president he's making that phone call.

Did you hear Woodward's excuse on this by any chance?

No.

It's interesting because I read the book, Peril, and it is

the way

conservatives and even in the media, I think this whole Millie China thing has been taken is not how it was presented in the book.

It was presented in the book as a way to to illustrate how bad Trump was.

It was not presented in the book as a way to show that Milley was undermining Trump.

Correct.

It was presented as a way to say, look, Trump was so bad.

His general had to call and say, we promise we won't nuke you, China.

It's a totally different spin.

So Woodward is saying, like, no, what we were saying was Trump was

a national security threat.

And that's why

I'm not sure if it's not.

This guy would agree with you, but that's what he's trying to say, which to me is absurd.

I mean, you know, they're just trying.

It's interesting, they thought it would be taken this way by the media.

And I think even the media at some level has said, you know, this doesn't feel right.

You can't just have your generals calling up and doing things that are behind the president's back.

Now, they've argued since, oh, there's lots of people on this call.

And I talked to Esper, and we, we, you know, not everything goes to the president, but I talked to my superiors.

But I think it's pretty weak reasoning here.

It's way better when the president himself says to like the president of Russia, hey, after the election, I'm going to have a lot more leeway to do whatever you guys want me to do.

So just hang on, and then that's transmitted back to Vladimir.

It's way better when that happens.

That's a good point.

But the Democrats have this down.

They've got the treason aspect down to a real science here.

They do.

They do.

They do.

It's great.

I'm wondering how someone justifies that the last president was out of control, who brought peace,

and this one

who is breaking all norms internationally

in dangerous ways and getting Americans killed, how this one is not somehow or another out of control.

Yeah,

it's amazing.

He can get away with...

And

they still aren't noticing some of the most glaring things about this guy that, I don't know, he's losing his mind.

There's another little aspect that they might want to pay attention to sometime in the near future because you're going to have to deal with it.

I'm wondering if to deal with it.

Did you hear the opening of the show today where we played the audio from the New Yorker about how to blow up?

Yeah, it sounded like they were interviewing a terrorist.

No, no, no.

No, he's an environmentalist.

I I meant an environmentalist?

Yeah, yeah.

Terrorists, he just thinks that, you know, because it's so dire, we just have to start blowing up pipelines.

That's all they're saying.

That's all they're saying.

It's very nuanced.

It's very nuanced.

And

that's totally fine.

Yeah.

They are coming out and saying things that I never thought possible that they would ever say.

However, I'm wondering now

if Democrats, I mean, the kind you used to live next door to, you know what I mean, and probably still do live next door to, that aren't crazies,

do they see that you're now being spoon-fed environmental terrorism?

They're now starting to embrace terrorism.

I don't know.

We're so divided.

We are so torn apart

on every issue that I don't know if there are just normal Democrats anymore.

Not very many of them anyway.

I mean, they hate the other side so much that they can't see any of this stuff.

Well, there has to be because

there are many groups that make up the right.

There are the people who are just, get them.

That's a small little fringe group.

Then there are the Trump supporters.

Then there are the people who are reluctant Trump supporters, and then non-Trump supporters.

You know,

the right is broken up and fragmented.

Are you saying that it's just one lockstep?

Feels like Democratic Party.

It does feel like it because you never hear anybody speak out against it.

It does feel like that, but I think sometimes I notice this with vaccines a lot, right?

Like, who are the people that get highlighted?

You get the people who are like, you have the vaccine or you go to prison on one side.

And then you have the people who are like, I don't want your fancy medicine on the other.

And it's like, I don't know.

You talk to people about it.

And people are like, yeah, you know, I don't know.

I'm a little, I don't really want to get it.

I don't like getting shots.

I don't want the side effects.

Right.

And then you talk to the other people on the other side and like, you know, I think it's a good idea, but if you don't want to get it, whatever.

What are we going to do?

Like, I think that's most people in reality.

On the internet, in

the media, those people never get highlighted.

But like, I don't know, when I have conversations with people about this stuff, they're not insane.

They don't, they don't sound like they tweet.

And I don't know if that's just a function of social media or what gets clicks online or what, but it definitely does seem different.

You know,

I mean, there are there are definitely people I know.

But we live.

Florida, Texas.

Yeah, no, that's true.

But I have

a lot of people, friends who live around the country.

And, you know, we've lived in every city, basically.

We're in radio, so we've moved 46,000 times.

And when I talk to people,

there are some people I know who are like, like, hate Donald Trump with such a passion that no matter what is associated with him, they will, you know, revolt against it and say he's the worst person in the world.

But, like, I also know people who voted for Joe Biden, who are just like, I don't know.

I mean, like, you know, it just seemed like he was a better, I don't know, Trump seems like he's out of control, but whatever.

Like, there's not like, not everyone has that.

I think people do live their own lives.

They do actually like care.

And a lot of these people, by the way, are very gettable on things like CRT.

You know, people, they might totally hate Donald Trump.

I think the vaccine too.

And Afghanistan.

Yeah, and Afghanistan in particular.

Afghanistan's the one that I think we're closest on.

I haven't met one person who has defended what happened in Afghanistan, including all my most liberal friends.

None of them say it was acceptable, let alone

incredibly successful or whatever the terminology they used was.

I haven't met anybody.

I don't think there's a soul.

I don't know if there's anybody inside the Biden administration who thinks that went well.

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A landlocked country, no government, a highly dynamic situation on the ground, and an active, credible, and lethal terrorist threat.

In a span of just two days, from the 13th to the 14th of August,

we went from working alongside a democratically elected, long-time partner government to coordinating warily with a long-time enemy.

We operated in a deeply dangerous environment.

Wow.

And it proved a lesson in pragmatism and professionalism.

We learned a lot of other lessons, too,

about how to turn an Air Force base and Qatar to an international airport overnight.

Why would you have to do that?

About how to rapidly screen, process, and manifest large numbers of people.

Why?

Nothing like this has ever been done before and no other military in the world could have pulled it off and I think that is crucial.

No, everywhere ends like this.

Now I know that members of this committee will have questions on many things such as why we turned over Bagram Airfield.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

How real is our over-the-horizon capability?

Ooh, that's another good one.

And why didn't we start evacuations sooner?

Oh, right.

Yes.

And why didn't we stay longer to get more people out of this?

Yes, great questions.

So let me take each in turn.

Okay, all right.

Retaining Bagram would have required putting as many as 5,000 U.S.

troops in harm's way just to operate and defend it.

And it would have

contributed little to the mission that we've been assigned.

No.

And that was to protect and defend the embassy, which was some 30 miles away.

But the problem was the assignment.

That's what it was.

But the distance from Kabul also rendered Bagram of little value any evacuation.

Staying at Bagram, even for counterterrorism purposes, meant staying at war in Afghanistan.

No.

Something that the President made clear that he would not do.

Right.

That's the problem.

That's the problem.

Because we're over the horizon operations.

When we use that term, we refer to assets and target analysis that come from outside the country in which the operation occurs.

These are effective and fairly common operations.

This is how you hit the people.

Indeed, just days ago, we conducted one such strike in Syria, eliminating

Al-Qaeda from Afghanistan.

Yeah, Yeah, the high-value target.

The high-value targets delivering water

delivering water.

But absolutely possible.

It's possible.

And the intelligence that supports them comes from a variety of sources and not just

that told you that those kids delivering water were the ones you're seeing.

Yeah, because the nice thing about that one, Glenn, was that

the kids were really excited to see their dad, so they all ran out to the car to greet him.

And that's when the car blew up.

That is so sweet.

But we have those over-the-horizon capabilities.

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General Milley is now testifying

in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

We're going to hear beyond his opening statement.

What was his involvement in Afghanistan?

What is his excuse for Afghanistan?

Same with General Austin.

And what exactly is he

did he do with China?

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Let's just take some of the Millie

comments here.

Here he is on the Trump revelations, I believe he said.

That are of deep concern to many members on the committee.

And with your permission, I would like to address those for a minute or two.

Again, I have submitted memoranda for the committee to take a look at.

You may proceed.

Mr.

Chairman, I have served this Nation for 42 years.

I have spent years in combat, and I have buried a lot of my troops who died while defending this country.

My loyalty to this Nation, its people, and the Constitution hasn't changed and will never change as long as I have a breath to give.

My loyalty is absolute and I will not turn my back on the fallen.

With respect to the Chinese calls, I routinely communicated with my counterpart, General Lee, with the knowledge and coordination of civilian oversight.

I am specifically directed to communicate with the Chinese by Department of Defense guidance, the policy dialogue system.

These military-to-military communications at the highest level are critical to the security of the United States in order to deconflict military actions, manage crisis, and prevent war between great powers that are armed with the world's most deadliest weapons.

The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency.

The specific purpose of the October and January calls were to generate or were generated by concerning intelligence, which caused us to believe the Chinese were worried about an attack on them by the United States.

I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese.

And it is my directed responsibility, and it was my directed responsibility by the Secretary to convey that intent to the Chinese.

My task at that time was to de-escalate.

My message again was consistent.

Stay calm.

Stay clear.

De-escalate.

We are not going to attack you.

At Secretary of Defense Esper's direction, I made a call to General Lee on 30 October.

Eight people sat in that call with me, and I read out the call within 30 minutes of the call ending.

On 31 December, the Chinese requested another call with me.

The Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asia-Pacific Policy helped coordinate my call, which was then scheduled for 8 January, and he made a preliminary call on 6th January.

Eleven people attended that call with me, and readouts of this call were distributed to the interagency that same day.

Shortly after my call ended with General Lee, I personally informed both Secretary of State Pompeo and White House Chief of Staff Meadows about the call, among other topics.

Soon after that, I attended a meeting with Acting Secretary Miller, where I briefed him on the call.

Later that same day on 8 January, Speaker of the House Pelosi called me to inquire about the President's ability to launch nuclear weapons.

I sought to assure her that nuclear launch is governed by a very specific and deliberate process.

She was concerned and

made various personal references.

characterizing the President.

I explained to her that the President is the sole nuclear launch authority and he doesn't launch them alone, and that I am not qualified to determine the mental health of the President of the United States.

There are processes, protocols, and procedures in place, and I repeatedly assured her that there is no chance of an illegal, unauthorized, or accidental launch.

By presidential directive, and Secretary of Defense directives, the Chairman is part of the process to ensure the President is fully informed when determining the use of the world's deadliest weapons.

By law, I am not in the chain of command, and I know that.

However, by Presidential Directive and DoD instruction, I am in the chain of communication to fulfill my legal statutory role as the President's primary military advisor.

After the Speaker Pelosi call, I convened a short meeting in my office with key members of my staff to refresh all of us on the procedures which we practice daily daily at the action officer level.

Additionally, I immediately informed Acting Secretary of Defense Miller

of Speaker Pelosi's phone call.

At no time was I attempting to change or influence the process, usurp authority, or insert myself in the chain of command.

But I am expected, I am required to give my advice and ensure that the President is fully informed on military matters.

I am submitting for the record a more detailed and unclassified memorandum that I believe you all now have, although late.

And I welcome a thorough walkthrough on every single one of these events.

All right.

So Stu.

Give me the, because that's not really how it's portrayed in the book, is it?

Yeah, a couple different incidents here.

On the China call,

the book

does indicate that he called China and tried to de-escalate.

The impression you get from the book is that they had intelligence that the Chinese were worried about this.

So how did they acquire that?

Some sort of espionage or whatever that they thought that they were worried about us attacking because they saw

the

unrest here.

And

they don't, you know, the Chinese wouldn't necessarily understand that.

And he tried to explain to them, oh, this is just the messiness of democracy.

It's just the messiness of democracy.

But in the book, it's portrayed as...

They shouldn't have read it as this is the biggest attack on democracy since the Civil War.

Yeah, it's odd.

Very different to spin than we've even heard from Millie.

Now, obviously, you could excuse him for lying to the Chinese.

I would have no problem with him saying whatever.

But

I don't know what.

I mean, my guess is he's lying to us.

Yes.

However, the book itself portrays it much more like it's a secret call than he's saying here.

There's not all that detail about there was 11 people on and all of that.

It's portrayed more as like a he was so distraught by the happenings here

that he had to call to make sure that this was this possibility of an attack was put down.

At no point did they indicate, as he mentions there, that

he actually believed Trump was going to attack.

Now, there seems to be worry from Pelosi on that, and that's the other part of that call.

Pelosi calling him, and he mentions there in his testimony,

you know, talking about how he, you know, look, I don't know.

I have no way of

Jim.

He has no way of determining whether the president's mental health is at stake or not.

However, in the call, multiple times, he tells Nancy Pelosi that he agrees with everything she's saying and says it, and she's because she's the one saying he's insane, he's crazy.

And they have the transcript, the full transcript in the book.

And he replies,

I don't have the clear.

I agree with you.

But I agree with you on it.

It's like he says something like, I agree with you on everything that you're saying.

We are in 100% agreement.

That's a little different than,

I'm not a doctor.

I can't comment on that.

I can't comment on that.

I can't comment on that.

That's for you to say, not for me to even weigh in on.

Now, when you read the book, you get the very,

very strong suspicion, especially if you know anything about Woodward's past writings, that General Milley is a big-time source for the book.

Many of these conversations are in detail.

He's involved in them, and he comes off looking like the hero, which is always how you can tell in a Woodward book who is the source.

Correct.

Because he just, you know, he gives them the most positive treatment, which is why he gets people to participate.

Because if you don't participate with him, he makes you look like a criminal.

So people participate all the time.

I mean, even Donald Trump talked to Bob Woodward about one of his books, even though he knew it was going to be a negative book.

Because if you don't talk to him, they just take everyone else's lies as fact.

So you have to at least attempt to push back.

It's a nice little

circuitous system Woodward's got going on with these books.

But you get the strong sense that Millie is a source for almost all of this type of intrigue in the book.

All right.

The leaders are facing questions about the Afghan withdrawal.

We want to stay with this a bit

today

because this is,

I mean, this is the worst thing that has happened militarily.

I would frame it a little bit differently.

I would say you can't call it anything but a success.

That's how I would frame it.

That's how you would frame it.

I also have red hair and a dress on right now.

You don't have either of them, though.

If I did, if I was Jen Socky, I would say this was anything but a success.

Okay.

What's interesting about

Millie's testimony is as he's beginning the testimonies, we were coming back to the show, he said, it's obvious the war did not end on the terms we wanted.

Now, I thought it was, you couldn't say it was anything but a success, but now he's saying we didn't, these are not the terms that we wanted.

So I don't know.

I guess there's some little through way you can come through and make both of those statements make sense.

Or maybe they were just hoping for failure, and then they got a success.

And that's.

Can I tell you?

They got a they have a failure.

I believe, I actually do believe that there are those that were involved in this that did want a failure.

And so this was wildly successful in accomplishing all of the goals that they wanted, which was to demoralize America, make people question our

military, and also drive a wedge between us and our

allies.

If that was your goal, there is no other way to describe this other than a complete success.

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He had a lot to say about General Milley,

which was weird.

He had

the tight buddies, would you say?

I wouldn't characterize it that way.

No, no, I wouldn't characterize it that way.

And he had a lot to say about Afghanistan.

Oh, and he had an awful lot to say about the Justice Department

and a lot to say about the media.

He had generally a lot to say.

I bet.

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Let's go back to General Milling.

The recommendation

In Hoff.

What I said in my opening statement and the memoranda that I wrote back in the fall of 2020 remained consistent, and I do agree with that.

This committee is unsure as to whether or not General Miller's recommendation ever got to the President.

You know, obviously, there are conversations with the President.

But I would like to ask, even though General McKenzie, I think you've all made this statement, did you talk to the President about General Miller's recommendation?

Sir, I was present when that discussion occurred, and I'm confident that the President heard all the recommendations and listened to them very thoughtfully.

So one of the recommendations that was made by the three of you would be the recommendation that originally was made by General Millers

two weeks ago.

During the August 18th interview on ABC, George Sephoranopoulos asked President Biden whether U.S.

troops would stay beyond August 31st if there are still Americans to evacuate.

President Biden responded, and this is a quote, if there's American citizens left, we're going to stay to get them all out.

This didn't happen.

The President's Biden's decision resulted in all of the troops leaving, but the American citizens are still trying to get out.

How many American citizens,

is it your opinion, are still there?

Just go down the line, each one of you.

Here comes anyone?

Senator, I would defer to the State Department for

that assessment.

That's a dynamic process.

They have been contacting the civilians that are in Afghanistan.

And again, I would defer to them for definitive numbers.

Here comes General Milley.

Just same

as the Secretary just said.

There were numbers at the beginning of this whole process with the F-77 report

out of the embassy.

And we know that we took out almost 6,000, I guess it is, American citizens.

But how many remain?

Okay, do all of you agree that Secretary of State Blanken, when he made his analysis as to how many people would be here, would still be there, he talked about the 10,000 to 15,000 citizens left behind

and then evacuated some 6,000.

That would mean a minimum of 4,000

would still be there now.

Would anyone disagree with that?

By your silence, I assume you agree.

I have no,

I I personally don't believe that there are 4,000 American citizens

still left in Afghanistan, but I cannot confirm or deny that, Senator.

So you think Secretary of State was probably wrong in his analysis.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

And just for the record, the Chair

and the Vice Chair slash ranking member have each abided by the five-minute rule.

So that is fair.

Good analysis.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, and thank you, Secretary Austin, General Milley, and General McKenzie for being here this morning.

And Secretary Austin and General Milley, thank you for your effort to put into some historical perspective what happened in Afghanistan and for recognizing the incredible service and sacrifice.

To keep you updated, Democrats like the military right now.

General Milley,

that will change soon.

In a hearing before the city,

military concerns about the

fact that they're not going to be able to do Afghans until we start talking about January 6th.

I asked about the department's plans to evacuate them.

Now, you indicated today that

you thought we might be facing the kind of desperate situation that we saw in Kabul.

But your response at that time was

that, quote, lots of planning was ongoing and

this is, end quote, and the State Department was leading efforts pertaining to evacuating our Afghan partners.

And you explicitly told the committee that in your professional opinion, you did not see Saigon 1975 in Afghanistan.

So

I'm just trying to figure out why we missed,

or from a public perception, it appears that we didn't anticipate the rapid fall of the world.

Because it wasn't Saigon 1975.

Afghanistan.

Kabul and the rise of the Taliban and the

people saw it play out on television.

In Afghanistan.

What did we miss?

I think, Senator, we absolutely missed the rapid 11-day collapse of the Afghan military and the collapse of their government.

I think there was a lot of...

Let me ask you something, Stu.

Did you miss that?

Did you miss that?

Did that sneak up on you?

Not at all.

I saw it all happening on television.

Right.

And before, when they just said we're just gonna come out and the troops are gonna be fine and everybody's gonna be great, did you believe that, or did you have some intel?

I had some secret intel.

Secret intel, because I must have had secret intel because I didn't think that was going to work out at all.

I wasn't surprised by the collapse of Afghanistan.

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I'm going to play a rant from Joe Rogan that I just think is inspiring.

Now, he's in trouble for this because somebody made a video of it and then put some images to it that include the

Nazis, and they're not happy, so Joe Rogan must pay.

But listen to his words.

As soon as you give politicians power, any kind of power that didn't exist previously,

if they can figure out a way to force you into carrying something that lets you enter businesses or lets you do this or lets businesses open, historically, they are not going to give that power up.

They find new reasons to use all of your bad.

We have to protect those freedoms at all costs, whether you agree with people's choices or not, because it is the foundation that this country was founded on freedom

this idea of freedom there's so many people that think it's frivolous it's not important it's not the main thing that we should be focused on but it is the literal structure that allows this country to be so f ⁇ ing amazing every single country that's ever existed other than the United States up until 1776 every

country that has ever existed was run by dictator all of them this is the first experiment in self-government that actually worked, and it created the greatest superpower the world's ever known.

It created the greatest cultural machine, the greatest machine of art and creativity and innovation right here.

And how did it do that?

It did it through freedom.

And as soon as you see something, anything that comes along and inhibits your freedom, you should be very cautious about this.

You should be very suspicious.

Because anything that comes along that can inhibit your freedom is, by definition anti-American.

All right, that's horrible, isn't it?

That's horrible.

Now,

why is he in trouble?

Why is he in trouble?

Because

he says,

you know, that anybody's trying to take your rights away.

And as he's saying that, images of the Holocaust.

And that apparently can't be done.

Right.

That's their big, their big line, I guess.

The group of people that told you that Donald Trump was Adolf Hitler Hitler for the past five years now suddenly has a problem with Holocaust comparisons.

That is

an interesting new discovery from the left.

I don't know how they came across it.

Wow.

And by the way, we should point out that Joe Rogan didn't compare

that at all.

That's the filmmaker who

put images to his words used some

Nazi penalty.

And a lot of other images, too.

Dictators.

From dictators.

Dictators.

Whenever anyone starts to say

certain things, those are signs that you're on the wrong path.

Right.

The wrong path is the best way to put this.

Because at the end of the path, if the end of the path is Nazi Germany,

you don't take two steps down that path.

You don't take five steps down that path.

You take zero steps down that path.

You avoid the path at all.

No one is saying that currently we are in the middle of murdering millions of people.

However, when government takes control, sometimes bad people wind up with the power behind that government.

And they are able to use those controls against the people.

I will give you for the left an example of someone that might concern you with lots and lots of power.

His name's Donald Trump.

Remember how much, you remember how you were saying he was Hitler?

Well, what if he had all of this power?

What if you gave him all of that power?

What if this person that you've been saying is Adolf Hitler for five years?

What if he had all of this power?

How would you feel about it?

This is why it doesn't matter about the man.

It doesn't matter who the person is.

It doesn't matter the party.

The country is designed so that no matter how crappy your president is, they can't do those things.

Right.

No matter how crappy Congress or the Senate

or the Supreme Court or anybody.

You can't do it.

But it requires all of those people to stand with the Constitution of the United States.

And they're not.

And they're not doing it because of their own power and their own money, et cetera, et cetera.

Or their own arrogance.

They think they know better.

And that's where dictators usually start.

They just know better than everyone else.

And that's what we were designed to stop.

And we're the only one designed to stop it.

Now, they say, you know, just because it's like Hitler doesn't mean it's going to end in the Holocaust.

Well, okay, but I don't really think that we should be going down the German road in any way, shape, or form.

Yeah, it may not lead to the ovens, but I don't think I want to even go down that road at all.

I mean, maybe we'll have some strudel, but that's as deep into Germany as I care to go.

But if you look at the,

this was developed by Genocide Watch

along with the United States Department of State, the eight stages of genocide.

And here they are.

So would you say that we want to go down this road at all,

or if we want to make sure that it never happens again,

we shouldn't do any of these things.

Here's step one.

people are divided into them and us

all right well that's been done that's done okay so step one on our road to the Holocaust has already been done step two symbolization when combined with hatred symbols may be forced upon unwilling members of pariah groups

To combat symbolization, hate symbols can be legally prohibited as hate speech.

Okay.

Well, I don't think that that

star has been sewn on to anybody.

I think the hate symbol that has been given by the left is the Make America Great Hat.

Anything that identifies you as a Trump supporter, you are now part of a group that it's okay to hate.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah,

I would say say that's true.

I mean, you look at, I mean,

there was an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm from this past year where Larry David decided he didn't want to talk to people, so he wore a MAGA hat so that people wouldn't talk to him anymore because he knew no one would want to interact with him if he had it on.

I mean, I think that that's obviously a comedic way of telling it, but I think that that's kind of true.

I think it is large swaths of the country.

Oh, yeah.

Large swaths of the country.

The other symbol that is okay to hate is not wearing a mask.

If you wear a mask, you're fine.

You can scream at the person.

You can scream at the person that's not wearing a mask.

Remember, we had that whole, you know, punch a Nazi movement for a while there.

It's, you know, related to the Antifa stuff where, you know, you see someone who you quote unquote think is a fascist.

It's okay to punch them, right?

It's okay to attack them because we're anti-fascists.

So there is definitely a movement and a powerful one.

So we're on that road.

Yeah, Yeah, but we're not.

We're not officially assigning a symbol, but the symbols exist.

Discrimination is the third one.

Law or cultural power.

Law or cultural power excludes groups from full civil rights, segregation, or apartheid laws, denial of voting rights.

Okay.

Well, law or cultural power, we have that,

denying groups full civil rights or segregation, we are now in our colleges segregating.

We're segregating instead of black people out, we're now segregating white people out.

New York City is most

younger African Americans are not allowed to go into restaurants.

Yes, you got it on that direction.

So you have multiple places there.

I mean, certainly not full civil rights have eroded to that level.

Well,

you want to go down this road.

You're being told that their patience is running thin and you will will not be able to do things if you don't have the vaccine

they are that's definitely again that's not on the civil rights but there there are problems right uh step four we're halfway to the ovens we're halfway to the ovens now well you're saying this is half of this list yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but we haven't done all the things so far on the list we've done no but some of them are on the road yeah we're on the road on all of all of them so far right uh four dehumanization One group denies the humanity of the other group.

Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects, or diseases.

Already done.

That's done.

I don't know that that's.

Well, it's done.

By some.

By some.

By some.

Like, for example, you watched Jimmy Kimmel the other night saying, like,

let the people who are unvaccinated die in the hospitals.

Yeah, it's not just Jimmy Kimmel.

You have doctors saying that.

You have some.

But I mean, I don't know that that's the entire society or the entire apparatus of the government saying that, but it is

becoming too popular.

Yes.

Becoming more popular.

Organization.

This is where it, this is where the metal meets the road or the rubber meets the road.

Terrible tires if they're made out of that.

You have the first four, and those can be done culturally

or through official means.

The four of these have been done culturally.

Now you get into organization.

Genocide is always organized.

Special army units or militias are often trained and armed.

I think we're going through that now with our military being trained on CRT

and, you know, they're out searching for people who are Trump supporters because they're radicals, et cetera, et cetera.

It's the beginning of it, or what could be the beginning of it.

Do you disagree with that?

I mean, I see what you're saying.

I mean, the idea that

the emphasis on domestic terrorism

is a problem.

I mean, does that mean that we have organized militias going after the government?

No, no, no.

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying this is the beginning.

The training is beginning to see things

as

parts of the country.

However, you vote, or if you won't play along with the woke game, you're a problem.

You're an extremist.

That's the beginning of the training.

Then polarization, hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda.

But we're already doing that right now in this program.

That's what we do every day.

No, remember, I mean, I think that this is coming from, this is aimed at the victim group.

And I think that propaganda is coming out already.

Preparation, mass killing is planned.

Thank God I don't think that's happening.

Persecution, that's when people are rounded up and put into ghettos or concentration concentration camps and then extermination by the way the tenth step

the perpetrators deny they committed any crime

how hard that must be you know we've always seen this and we saw this in germany

uh and we still see this in germany there they're you know people like well i didn't have any i well no we didn't do anything wrong i was just that was what was going on we didn't know how hard it must be for the people who lived through that and know their new their neighbors did know.

I mean, how many times do we have people denying things?

Like, for instance, right now, the Democrats, not anywhere in the scale, but the Democrats denying that they were the ones that were holding kids out of school, that they were the ones they now claim they were fighting for the schools to be open.

It was the evil Republicans that were trying to keep the schools closed.

I mean, how do you survive survive that?

How do you, I mean, how do you make that so your brain just doesn't explode?

And I'll say, like, as important as it is to warn about these roads, it's also important to note, you know, like it does.

Big things.

It does.

Big things are standing in the way still.

Big things.

We have a constitutional structure that stops this.

We have great people in the military and our police that stop this.

And like, look, I'll be honest, you know, everyday life,

it seems normal.

I mean,

these things escalate slowly, but these problems are problems that you get rid of now.

Now.

So you don't worry about these bigger problems.

Correct.

Correct.

And as Edwin Black told me,

these problems that we have, this means the Holocaust may never, ever come to America.

But it also means that we've done a lot of the work where it could happen.

tomorrow.

We just have to be aware of when you're polarizing, when you're dividing, when you are excluding people, when you're denying the humanity of people.

You are on the same road.

And once enough people are convinced of those things, then the government can make the rest of it happen quickly.

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Tom Cotton is asking some questions now.

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We had thousands of Americans in Afghanistan behind Taliban lines on August 15th, and it took 10 days to ask these general officers if we should extend our president.

I suspect the answer might be a little different if you were asking them 16 days out, not five days out.

Again, my time is limited.

I want to move on to another matter.

President Biden's bus evacuation screwed things up coming and going as it relates to Afghan evacuees.

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And then he then figured out that regulation causes more problems and decided to report on how the government is really screwing things up.

And that's when things went bad for John, but went great for America.

John Stossel joins us now.

Hi, John.

How are you?

Great for America.

Wow, I wish I had that much power.

I think you have had a massive impact, John.

I think you've had a massive impact on America.

You know, I've watched you for years and years, and the things that

you exposed, I think, think changed a lot of people open their eyes.

Not, you know, not all of the, you know, party people in New York and all the people that are fashionable, but I think a lot of regular Americans.

Why are you suing Facebook now?

Well, I don't like lawsuits,

but

it's just unbelievable what Facebook is doing.

Now, some of what we complain about, they can do legally.

They can take people off if they want.

They can

censor subjects like whether the virus might have been man-made in China.

That's legal.

But it's not

legal for them to just lie about people.

And that's what they've done about me

with the help of their fact checker, which

they have a bunch, but a big one.

This group called Science Feedback.

Oh, yeah.

Climate Feedback.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And

they made up a quote about me.

They put it in quotes, something I never said.

And when we pointed this out to them, they just don't change it.

And when we try to talk to Facebook, they say, uh-huh, uh-huh, well, here's how our algorithm works, and they don't change it.

And it's just a lie.

And that is illegal.

And I thought, well, I should, with a lawsuit,

teach them that they just can't do that.

That's defamation.

So how are you planning on going up against?

I mean, Facebook has more money than God.

You have good attorneys.

I mean, what are the chances of one guy standing up against them

that you win?

Small, but the lawyers took it because in my case, it wasn't just about an unfairness.

It was a flat-out lie, and that is defamation.

But you're right.

It's going to cost me a lot of money and take a long time, and who knows?

But I thought I'd try.

Yeah, well, thank you for doing that.

Tell me a little bit about what your thoughts are on the virus and the vaccine and all of this.

America is so strangely split on this because it became all about politics.

So

what are your thoughts on that, John?

I was listening to what you just said about that, and Biden, a 98%.

That's just not going to happen.

And the country is different from how it's been before.

There's the level of hatred on the part of people around me for anybody who listens to you, listens to Fox, doesn't maybe doesn't get vaccinated.

It's just

they are in a rage.

What's it I mean, I'm working on a video on this.

I release a new video every Tuesday.

And we're researching different countries.

And China and Australia are a little bit like America at its worst in terms of lockdowns.

But Denmark just lifted all restrictions.

Belgium has just allowed people to be maskless.

Sweden eliminated almost all restrictions.

Britain just got rid of its plans to create a vaccine passport.

So many countries are wising up and saying, look, this is never going to go away.

There's always going to be some around.

And we have to resume normal life.

And by doing that, people will get COVID, but it doesn't kill most of them, and people will acquire natural immunity.

And that's the only way to move on.

What do you think about

how Americans and the world have reacted to this?

I mean, I remember when it was breaking out in Beijing, and if you remember right, there were times that they were welding people into

their homes.

They were sealing these iron doors so people couldn't leave their homes.

And I remember saying on the air, this would never happen.

We would never put up with this kind of stuff here in America.

We're two years into this, and we're still putting up with it.

What happened to us, John?

We became wimps.

Now, in fairness, we're not locking, nailing people into their houses.

No.

And we're not as bad even as Australia, which has come close to

China.

On the other hand, those countries have stopped deaths.

And some people think the only thing that matters in life is whether you die of COVID.

And then China and Australia have winning arguments.

At the moment, it's three deaths per million people in China, forty in Australia, versus 400 in Denmark and 2,000 per million in the United United States.

So

far, they're saving lives with this repression.

Yeah, but, I mean, if you want to use that logic, then we should take every car off the road.

We should take every pool out of every backyard.

We should take every steak knife out of every dishwasher.

Very true.

And certainly forbid people from driving in the rain.

John Stossel, always good to talk to you, sir.

When do you go to court?

Do you know?

400 years from now.

That's our legal system.

Good to talk to you, John.

Thanks a lot.

You too.

Yeah, John Stossel

suing Facebook over defamation.

And he's absolutely right.

And that climate group has been responsible for getting us banned or having our hands slapped or whatever it actually turned out to be.

Remember, there was something, they were claiming that we said something that we never said, we never said, but we quoted something that was accurate that came out of

a study where in that study,

they said in that study this particular quote.

We didn't even know it was in the study.

We had nothing to do with that quote.

We weren't quoting it.

We weren't even holding up the study.

We were just using that as a footnote on where we got that particular information.

All the information in the study was accurate.

That quote is what they disagreed with.

And they attributed it to us, said

we were saying that.

We never said that.

Yeah.

The problem with a lot of these groups is they're just sloppy, let alone ideological and antagonistic to conservative values.

They're just bad at their jobs, too, which is a pretty big problem when you're talking about the livelihood of a business.

You know, I mean, you know, John Stossel, you know, as he said, he releases a new video every Tuesday.

You know, like when you throw him off

of these platforms, how do you, how do people see them?

You kill How do people see his work?

You don't.

You don't.

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Can we go to the audio

from,

I believe it was General Austin for answering a question from Tom Cotton.

Here it is.

I understand that you're the principal military advisor, that you advise.

You don't decide.

The president decides.

But if all this is true, General Milley, why haven't you resigned?

Listen to this.

Senator,

as a senior military officer,

resigning is a really serious thing, and it is a political act if I am resigning in protest.

My job is to provide advice.

My statutory responsibility is to provide legal advice or best military advice to the President, and that is my legal requirement.

That is what the law is.

The President doesn't have to agree with that advice.

He doesn't have to make those decisions just because we are generals.

And it would be an incredible act of political defiance for a commissioned officer officer to just resign because my advice is not taken.

This country doesn't want generals figuring out what orders we are going to accept and do or not.

That's not our job.

Isn't that basic?

The principles of income

is absolute.

It's critical to this republic.

In addition to that, just from a personal standpoint,

my dad didn't get a choice to resign at Iwo Jima.

And those kids that are at Abbey Gate, they don't get a choice to resign.

And I'm not going to turn my back on them.

I'm not going to resign.

They can't resign, so I'm not going to resign.

There's no

If the orders are illegal,

hold it just a second.

Stu,

just because the president won't listen to you doesn't mean you resign.

I agree with that.

We don't need, we don't have a country where the country doesn't want a general that resigns every time the president disagrees with him.

I agree with that.

However,

when the president is making decisions that put our troops and our country in danger,

real danger, and unnecessary danger,

you should resign.

You should go, you should lay your stars down on the desk and say, Mr.

President, I can't be a part of this.

This is too dangerous for our troops.

It's not going to work out the way you think it will.

And all of us have advised you of that.

And you continue to say that you're going to do it.

Well, that's fine.

I just won't put those kids' lives in jeopardy for something this foolhardy because it won't work, sir.

And if it does, I apologize.

But all my experience shows, no, it won't.

You do that for two reasons, in hopes that the president would change his mind.

And if he doesn't, to be able to warn the people the president is making foolhardy decisions.

Yeah, I mean, that's kind of, in a way, what General Mattis did.

Yes.

Right.

I I mean, he did not agree with what was going on and the decision-making being made around Syria.

And he decided he didn't want to be part of it.

Right.

I don't think there was a lot of criticism of Mattis for doing that.

I mean, you might disagree with his analysis of the situation, but the fact is that if he didn't want to stand by what was going on and the decisions, he didn't want to stand behind those decisions, then removing yourself is a very realistic idea and possibility for a military official.

And again, he's right in to say that he can't, if it's a legal order, he does need to follow it.

Correct.

Or resign.

Right.

And that what, which also goes to, then why didn't you tell the president that you were making a phone call to China and saying, hey, listen, he's not going to do anything.

And if he does, I'll call you first.

You work directly for the president.

You are the chief military advisor.

Did you, as the chief military advisor, go into the Oval Office and said, hey, China is freaking out.

They think you're going going to bomb them?

Did you?

Did you go?

He says he went to Esper,

but we'll see.

I mean, we don't know.

Isn't he the chief advisor for the president?

I mean, you should go to the president.

That's kind of important.

Mr.

President, China thinks you're going to bomb.

I mean, I know there's no chance of you.

May I just call them and tell them that's not in the cards?

Of course call them.

Yeah, and I think the bigger part of that call too is what you just mentioned, which was if we're going to attack you, I will warn you.

Now he could of course, if he actually did that, there's no doubt it's treason.

If he calls up underhandedly and warns the Chinese government that we're about to attack them when we're about to attack them, that's absolutely open and shut treason.

Now, he didn't actually do it, of course, because we weren't going to attack China.

And so

we're in a hypothetical land.

But really, the answer needs to be that he was lying to China.

I was telling China whatever I felt like telling them, even though obviously in that real circumstance, I wouldn't call them.

It's the only acceptable answer there.

Right?

It's the only thing, like, it's totally fine for one of our people to call up and say, look, we're never going to spy on you when we are spying on them, right?

That stuff happens all the time.

Honesty is not exactly always the hallmark of foreign affairs.

But actually doing it would be, I think, unquestionably treason.

Honesty, I think, is

the hallmark.

You don't make a phone call to lie to somebody.

But you make it, you could make a phone call.

You know, look, if he makes a phone call and say, look, I'll absolutely call you if that's going to happen.

Now, if we're actually attacking and he calls, that's treason.

If we actually are attacking and he doesn't call,

that would not be a surprise.

No, it wouldn't be, but it would be also, I could see that being something very, very important

for the president to know.

The president,

if he's negotiating with a country, he has to know what all of his people are saying.

Yeah.

This is not the Congress.

It's not the Senate.

These are his people.

It's funny you say that because a large portion of this book, Peril, by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, is talking about one of the main issues they found with the Trump administration is that there were so many warring factions inside of it.

There would be one group saying one thing to China and another group saying something else to China.

And Donald Trump, you know, again, this is their analysis of the situation, was

he liked some of them on one day and he liked the other group on another day.

So one group would get priority, they would say something to a foreign country, and then the next group would go in there having no idea what group one said and disagree with them.

And so, there was all these mixed messages, and this is one of the things they claim was frustrating to other countries we were dealing with.

You can go through whether they believe that or not.

That's their criticism.

They're saying that that's a bad thing.

They're saying that's a bad thing.

So, if a president said

to a group of people that burned the country almost to the ground,

that that's okay and that's you know, that's part of democracy,

but then

went and claimed that somebody who came in and did some damage to some windows wasn't trying to burn it down

and did some damage in the Capitol, those people should be in solitary confinement.

Those would be mixed messages.

Totally.

And that would be

bad, I thought.

That's what I was told as well.

But you're right.

That's exactly what they did about January 6th.

In the call, Millie says to the Chinese, hey,

I know.

You guys, you know, basically, you guys got your dictatorship over there.

We know you would never allow any of this stuff.

But when you got a democracy, you have to understand these things happen.

Sometimes there's going to be riots at the Capitol.

That's essentially

what Millie told the Chinese to make them calm down about January 6th.

You guys don't understand culturally this isn't that abnormal.

But then it even says in the book, but in reality, General Millie thought this was the worst thing ever.

Okay, so he was lying to China twice.

And they can verify that he's a liar now because he said it's no big deal.

And now, you know, they have TVs and satellite over there.

They're going to know now.

They're going to know that he was lying to them.

And that's why I think the back and forth of this at some level

is immaterial to whether General Milley should continue in his role.

And the answer to that, I think, is absolutely he needs to leave.

Leave.

He can't, even if the best case scenario is true here, that he told

Robert Costa and Bob Woodward about all of this behavior, which shows him to be a liar to China only.

That's the worst thing he did was he's not a reliable source to our adversaries.

Anyone.

If that's true, then he can't be trusted for foreign affairs going forward.

Correct.

He's either lying to China, Bob Woodward, the American people, the press, Donald Trump, or the current administration, or today, Congress.

No one can rely on the guy, and that guy can't be in that role.

Correct, correct.

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Wow, did you see Time magazine last week?

Of course you didn't.

Nobody reads that piece of crap.

But they laid out the potential death of the dollar in kind of a fascinating and terrifying piece last week.

China opened up its digital currency to foreigners.

Next year, when they host the Winter Olympic Games, they expect the whole visiting world to utilize their new digital dollar, if you will.

China estimated to be about 10 years ahead of the United States.

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There is something that's coming out of the world of science.

They look like they have found physical evidence for one of the most infamous Bible stories, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

They have been working on this now for about 15 years.

The city of Sodom is called Tal El-Hamon.

It was from about 3,600 years ago,

and it's right...

right at the edge.

It was an urban center, right at the edge of the Dead Sea.

And we know from the Bible that God destroyed it with fire, right?

Just

incinerated the place.

Right.

Okay.

Well, the Bible is so stupid.

Scientists have been looking now

at their 15 years worth of excavation.

And they have found a roughly five foot thick jumbled layer of charcoal, ash, melted mud bricks, and melted pottery.

They call it the destruction layer.

As they've been looking into it and what caused it, they believe that it was hit by a meteor, a space rock,

that was coming in at 38,000 miles an hour to Sodom

and

and kind of did some damage.

They, to, to,

to

make this ash and this destruction layer as is, they knew that it had to, whatever happened was, had to hit at least 3,600 degrees Fahrenheit.

Kind of hot.

So we know it wasn't

like a candle fire.

Right.

And what they, what they believe now is that a rock exploded about 2.5 miles above ground,

listen to this, creating a blast around a thousand times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima

a thousand times more powerful

they say the massive shockwave would have followed moving at roughly 740 miles and 740 miles an hour faster than any tornado ever on record it would have demolished every building and killed all inhabitants

which is kind of what the Bible story says.

So that's kind of weird.

By the way, the last thing in the story, just to make your day,

make you feel a little better.

Scientists tell us there are currently more than 26,000

near-Earth asteroids and 100 short-period near-Earth comets that could cause an impact like this on Earth.

They added one will inevitably crash into the Earth,

but don't worry about the 26,000 because millions more remain undetected, and some may be headed towards the earth right now.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah.

What could possibly go wrong?

Let me ask you something.

Let me ask you something.

If I gave you a choice,

you could live through the rest of your life.

going through all the stuff that we know is coming.

Right.

Okay.

Or a giant space rock could come

and blow up two and a half miles above your head and you'd be vaporized immediately.

I think I'd be.

Immediately.

Immediately.

So no pain.

No, no pain.

No, no pain at all.

You're like, if you're inside,

maybe you hear the, maybe, maybe you hear the,

you know, emergency broadcast system go off.

Maybe.

And it's like, stations, a giant space.

And that's all you hear.

And then you're all vaporized.

Okay.

But probably not going to get the EBS system.

You know, if you're outside, you might look up and go, what the hell is...

And then you're dead.

Mm-hmm.

Or you could live the rest of your life on the road we're on right now.

Because there was an interesting movement behind a presidential candidate.

recently called Sweet Meteor of Death.

And

the idea was that kind of this, like, would you vote for a sweet meteor of death to just come and take us all out and take us out of our never-ending, excruciating pain?

I think I would survive.

Well, I don't want to speak for other people.

I wouldn't want to

vote for that because, you know, other people would be involved.

So if I choose the meteor and I knew it was coming, I would say, hey, by the way, you should all leave the area.

maybe about 25 miles around me because it's coming.

Now, I don't know if more people would leave or would flock to me.

They run toward you.

Yeah, they might run toward me.

There was a, in the documentary film, Real Genius from 1985,

there was a defense system created that would bounce lasers off of mirrors in space.

And then it would come down and it could vaporize a target, a human target from space and space.

Oh, that's the Jewish, that's the Jewish space laser.

Yes, Jewish space space laser.

I know that, you know, in the film, they didn't talk about it being Jewish.

Yeah, well, but the Jewish space laser is a really good thing.

Who runs Hollywood?

You know what I mean?

That's a great point.

Right.

Right.

Or maybe Jewish, yeah.

But Jewish space laser.

So the

because that's a way of doing that instead of wiping out an entire community with the sweet meter meteor of death, you could do it in an individual laser way and just

evaporate yourself from society.

No, I don't want to know it's coming.

Well, let's just say, well, you said you were going to vote for the sweet meteor of death.

Oh, and I said I wouldn't because then it would involve other people.

Right.

So, what is the solution I'm presenting?

One that will not affect other people.

This would just be you being vaporized and you're going to be able to do it.

Maybe we should just give this to like Amazon.

And so if you're ever talking and you didn't say Siri, you know, it's still listening to you.

And you'd be like, man, would I just love to be vaporized today?

Then Siri could have that, and they would report back to, you know, whomever,

probably right to the head guy there.

And he'd say, oh, I got the space laser, the Jewish space laser.

And Siri would say, he wants to be vaporized.

And then you're just vaporized.

And you wouldn't simplify things.

It would.

I will say.

It would.

I will say we would avoid a lot of dumb commentary from from AOC if we were hit with a space laser and didn't have to hear her speaking.

That would be one positive of being hit with a Jewish person.

You know, I never thought of it this way before, but maybe they're not the problem.

Maybe me being alive and hearing it is the problem.

The funny thing is, they have thought about that before.

You may not have.

Yeah, yeah.

But they have realized that you are the problem.

Damn it, Stu, could we please talk about science for a second?

Of course.

Okay, let me talk about science.

This is from the Scientific American.

The acronym JEDI

has become a popular term for branding academic committees and labeling STEM science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and medicine initiatives focused on social justice issues.

Used in this context, JEDI stands for justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

This is again from Scientific American.

Okay.

In recent years, it has been used and been employed by a growing number of prominent institutions and organizations, including the National

Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.

At first glance, Jedi might simply appear to be an elegant way to explicitly build justice into the more common formula of DEI,

an abbreviation for diversity, equity, and inclusion.

However,

it shares the name with superheroic protagonist of the science fiction Star Wars franchise.

Wait, it does?

It does.

I had only heard it in the scientific

context.

And thus, it is inappropriate.

Wait.

So D-E-I is something that existed in science.

Apparently.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Yes, yes.

And they have now changed it to Jedi because people will actually remember it.

justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

And we can't use Jedi, not because, I thought you were going to say it was a copyright reason.

No.

You're saying it's because why?

Well,

through its connections to Star Wars, the name Jedi can inadvertently associate our justice work with stories and stereotypes that are a galaxy far, far away from the values of justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

So we have to ask ourselves a few questions.

These connections are, are they, ones that we want to have?

For instance, the Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice.

They're obstensibly heroes in Star Wars.

The Jedi are inappropriate symbols, however, for justice work.

They are a religious order of

intergalactic police monks, prone to what...

Can't be real.

This is a real article?

This is a real article from Scientific American.

Oh, it only gets better from here.

Does it?

Prone to white

saviorism and toxic masculine approaches to conflict resolution.

Princess Leia was toxic masculinity.

Oh, she's doing it.

She is in here.

Oh, good.

Oh, she's in here.

The Jedi are also an exclusionary cult,

membership to which is partly predicated on the possession of heightened psychic and physical abilities.

Strikingly, force-wielding talents are narratively explained in Star Wars.

They're not merely in spiritual terms, also in ableist and eugenic terms.

These supernatural powers are naturalized as biological hereditary attributes.

So it is that force potential is framed as a dynastic property of noble bloodlines.

For instance, the Skywalker dynasty.

This, I'm not making this up.

I can't believe this is real.

Look it up.

It's in Scientific American.

Here it is.

Why the term Jedi is problematic for describing programs that promote justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

Let me take a break while you look it up.

Verify that it's real.

Because

it gets a lot better than this.

It gets a lot better than this.

So we'll

see, look, it has one, two, three, four, five different scientists weighing in on this.

Okay,

I have an announcement.

Okay, wait, no, no, wait, wait.

Wait for you now.

Should we wait for your announcement?

Well, I think I can at least give you this part of it.

I am praying now for the sweet meteor of death.

You just found out that it was real.

I have a challenge for you.

It's going to take a little bit of your time.

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The Glenn Beck program.

I'm just reading again from Scientific American why the term Jedi is problematic for describing programs that promote justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.

That's becoming popular to say that those warriors are Jedis, and they're saying this is really bad.

Very inappropriate.

They're intergalactic police monks.

And they also gaslight people by means of Jedi mind tricks.

I'm quoting.

Jedis are also an exclusionary cult, membership to which is partly predicated on the possession of heightened psychic and physical abilities, force sensitivity.

And these are not just merely spiritual terms, but also biological and hereditary attributes.

The Skywalker dynasty

is part of that.

But

how could anyone write this?

Star Wars, oh, it took five scientists to write this.

Star Wars also has a problematic cultural legacy.

The space opera franchise has been critiqued for trafficking in injustices such as sexism, racism, and ableism.

Think, for example, of the so-called Slave Leah costume,

infamous for stripping down and chaining up the movie series first leading woman as part of an Oriolent or

Orientalist subplot.

I didn't know it was an Orientalist subplot.

I had no idea.

But the Leia thing is presented negatively.

No one thinks that it's a good idea to chain people up in the movie.

He's the evil villain.

They're making it like an Orientalist subplot.

So wait, it's bad because

Oriental populations chain their women up, and therefore, we shouldn't criticize Oriental populations.

I am shocked that you would even use that word.

I was talking about an Orientist subplot.

Well, luckily, you can't say it.

So, exactly, you're not guilty.

I'm not getting in trouble.

You're not guilty.

I'm not guilty.

Yeah, I can't say it.

And he's just throwing around these Oriental people.

I don't even know what you mean, Stu.

You did just say it.

So, I guess, quoting you, I guess, I guess, so because

it is trying to make this look like

something that would have happened in Asia.

Right.

Thank you.

And that's true.

The problem is not that they change her up.

The problem is that we're criticizing a foreign culture.

I think.

That's what it means.

We haven't even gotten to the good stuff.

We'll have to start the show with this tomorrow.

We should.

But the best stuff is that, yes.

Even though I feared in the middle of that segment you were reading from the Babylon Bee, this is an actual real article from five scientists in Scientific American.

Scientific American.

Remember when they used to talk about scientific stuff?

Yeah, and not Jedi nights?

This is the Glennbach program.

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