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Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

Lot to talk about, a lot to cover, a lot of really important people

that are going to be talking about the FBI, the SEC, Twitter, General Millie, you name it.

We have it covered today.

I have just a few minutes to talk to you about the economy.

We're going to start there in 60 seconds.

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Okay, speaking of the economy, I have no idea what is going to happen with housing prices.

I have no idea.

I just know the Kay-Schiller index, which is always the one that says, hey, don't buy, you're at the top of the market, is double, double where we were back in 2008 it's never been this high that means we are way overpriced with housing however you've got people like BlackRock and everybody else buying all these houses now paying more than the asking price why

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All right.

I want to talk to you about a couple of things that are very, very concerning to me.

Something I told you last night on the TV show that there are

11 things that the left has needed that I have been watching since about 2000...

2008

that I started doing my homework on revolution and I talked to people all over the world that have either witnessed them or are professors that understand

this

system.

I mean, it really is.

You have to have a system to overthrow a nation if you're going to do it successfully.

And it runs the same way.

And I put these 11 things together.

And I've been watching them for 20-some years.

Because of that,

I really didn't think all of them would come into play.

I thought there were about four or five.

I thought they'll never, they'll never get this.

Military was one of them.

Intelligence agency was another one.

I never thought that they would be able to turn the police force against the people, and they haven't.

They've just destroyed it.

They have all of the pieces they need.

Last night on the chalkboard, I added a couple of others.

One, what does this collapse into?

So you need a net, and then then you do a controlled collapse.

You manage the decline, and that's the phase we're in right now.

You will not recognize your lifestyle.

Hear me.

I've said you won't recognize your country, and that is true.

And you don't recognize it if...

If you're anything like me or any of my friends, you don't recognize this country anymore.

It's not the same country.

And you know we're on the wrong track.

And that's not a left-right thing.

That's a right-wrong thing.

We're on the wrong track.

I'm telling you now, new information.

You are not going to recognize the American lifestyle.

And I don't want to put a time on it because I'm always wrong in timing, but it could happen tomorrow.

It could happen in five years from now, but it will

happen.

We are headed for a very

different country.

One where you don't have the rights that you have, and you certainly don't have the economic privileges that Americans are used to.

And when I say privileges, I mean energy.

I mean going out and getting a hamburger.

There's a couple of things that I want to talk to you about.

And next Wednesday night, I'm doing a special on the economy that you really need to pay attention to.

But something happened last night.

And honestly, I wish I had a crystal ball that could give me an answer here.

But something important happened in China.

And I'm not sure how this is going to affect us yet.

I've got my tentacles out to a few people that I respect.

So far, they're all like, I don't know.

I don't know.

This is big, but I don't know.

You just need to have it on your radar.

The Lehman Brothers collapse.

Remember, there was Bear Stearns and then Lehman Brothers.

When Lehman Brothers collapsed in 2008, that's when the crap hit the fan, right?

That's when we went into full-fledged tarp.

We've got to destroy the free market to save the free market.

That's when all the lights around the world were supposed to go out because of the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

Now,

yesterday, And I told you about this last week, that it looked like it was coming.

But yesterday, the chinese lehman brothers collapsed and it's going to have a cascading effect again on the chinese financial markets and

it's it's weird because i'm not sure how this is going to work because china is such a different market The good news here is the Lehman, the Chinese version of Lehman Brothers does not, we don't have a lot of exposure to it.

According to an article I read last night, 90%

of Evergrande's, that's the name of their Lehman Brothers, it's owned by Chinese investors, mostly institutional.

So the losses are isolated to China or more so to China than Lehman Brothers.

where they had about 50% of all of the exposure was overseas.

Only 10% of this is overseas.

However, this is going to be really, really bad for the Asian markets.

And when I say Asian, I mean Australia and New Zealand.

Australia is going to get hit hard by this because their Social Security Trust Fund was invested in this company,

through this company.

It's a huge part of their

Social Security fund is in this.

So

you're going to start to see

decline of lifestyle and decline for senior citizens

in the Asian Pacific region.

This is going to have

big ripple effects.

I don't know how yet.

What the problem was is derivatives.

The same thing that happened in 2008 now has happened in China.

And by the way, our derivative problem

is far bigger, far bigger than it was in 2008.

Far bigger.

This time, it's going to take everything down.

When it collapses, it will take everything down.

Now, here's what I want you to know about this in China.

This is the most important lesson we can learn from this today.

This is

China's

investment.

They took all of this money and they had shovel-ready projects, public housing, and ghost cities.

All of those things that were built were built in and around

this firm.

So, all of those ghost cities, all of those things, there is no return on investment on things that usually the government is looking to do when they fund these things.

Oh, we're investing in the future.

That's what China said, but there is no return on that investment because no one is there paying rent.

How can you invest in our country and say we're investing by helping people, paying people, and giving them no job, making sure they're sitting on their butt at home, and also canceling their rent payments and their mortgage payments.

That will collapse an economy.

It just happened with their bridges and cities to nowhere.

This is important that you understand what's happening.

I'd like to page John Galt.

Are you out there?

Are you out there, John?

Because Atlas Shrugged is happening right now.

Now, there's a couple of other things that I wanted to share with you.

The Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement

has said now that staff are still evacuated from 36 production platforms, and that's about 7% of all the manned platforms in the Gulf of Mexico because of Hurricane Ida.

What this means is we are going to be we're going to be

way,

way short of our oil.

And remember,

Saudi Arabia is not really a friend of ours anymore.

They're not cutting us any special deals because we don't have the clout anymore.

China is getting the special deals.

We, they just made a deal.

We asked them.

Joe Biden went to him and said, Hey, can you control this a little bit?

Open up the spigots.

Nope.

But they did give China a break on their oil.

We have, we are

managing our decline.

The reason why Donald Trump was so hated by the people of Davos and all of these corporations that work together and all of the deep state is because the deep state and all of these corporations and financial institutions,

they've screwed things up and so they have decided that America is no longer going to be the leader of the free world and they will manage this decline and bring us into line with the rest of the world, and then they'll have their great reset.

This is why I say you are not going to have the privilege of your lifestyle

in the coming months, years,

decades, because the people who are in charge of America now no longer believe in America.

If I were president of the United States, Donald Trump was president president of the United States, Ronald Reagan, he would not be saying,

well, we're just going to give up and let's manage the decline.

He would be saying, what do we do to have to get back to our full potential?

That's why we were energy independent.

And that is why Joe Biden took us and took us to a place where now our gas prices are going to go through the roof.

One other story that came out today.

The U.S.

and the EU seek to partner in a joint pledge to cut methane emissions by 2030 by 30%.

Stu, what is the main source of methane emissions in America?

There's many sources, but people like to talk about livestock.

Livestock.

Let's just put it nicely.

Livestock.

Remember, the World Economic Forum, the left,

everybody, including the meat processing companies, are telling you that meat is going to be a rarity and something for special occasions only by 2030.

This is part of it.

Again, they are managing this.

It is so critical that I've...

Well, I'll tell you about that later.

It is so critical right now that you please inform yourself, prepare for impact, and whatever you do, do not

get angry.

There is a couple of things that I want to talk to you about, this Capital VI rioter thing.

It's a setup.

I believe this is very possibly a setup.

There is, we've had people online looking.

There is no buzz on this.

No buzz on this it's as if it's not happening and then roger stone call comes out and even roger stone says don't go to that don't it's a setup

with what we learned about the fbi yesterday and what we already know you cannot trust the fbi you cannot trust things

you know they are telling you to deny the things that your eyes see

i'm telling you,

don't trust anything.

You have to be very careful.

Verify, verify everything.

And be very careful.

Because the two things I added to the chalkboard, one, the net.

What is it collapsing into?

We know.

We know now.

It's the great reset.

And the second thing is the event.

I don't know what the event will be, but there will come an event.

And God forbid it's something like January 6th.

But there will be an event that will give them the excuse to say, let it go.

Now we've got it.

Now put it into the net.

Please be very careful.

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What we need to do is

come together and

you're already seeing it.

You're already seeing it.

This

Nikki Minaj story, which I'm not really even following, it's about swollen testicles and

the White House.

And I mean, it's like crazy, okay?

Those are the two things involved in the story and and Nikki Minaj.

It's bizarre what's going on.

But there are people that are waking, not woke, but awake.

That's really important.

You must be awake, but do not equate that with being woke.

Because if you're woke, you're dead asleep.

Brett Weinstein.

and Heather Hang,

these are biology professors at Evergreen State College.

They are truly remarkable people.

They couldn't disagree with me more on certain issues.

I have, I started the Glenn Beck podcast, I don't know, three, four years ago, because I wanted to have these two on.

And they would never accept my invitation.

But it was, that's what my podcast was designed to be.

People who disagree with each other, but can walk away friends and can walk away and see, okay, wow, that's a really good point you're making.

Never thought of it that way.

And have open and honest discussions.

Well, they are on my podcast today,

and

they approach things much differently.

They speak a different language because they were on the left, but they saw what the left was doing.

These guys are

left of center.

They don't agree with me on certain policies, and I don't agree with them, but I really respect them.

And they're the founding members of the intellectual dark web.

They've just written a book called The Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century.

And

it has some really important points.

I just recorded the podcast with them.

And it is vital.

that you listen to this podcast and you share it with friends that you don't necessarily agree with because we must become strange bedfellows.

We must stop hating the things that we are against and start loving the things that we are for.

We have to be happy warriors.

We have to be the people that others look to and go, I want to be like them.

I mean, look at these guys.

I may not agree with them, but they're happy and they're doing things that are positive and they're not part of the problem.

That's the way I feel about Brett and Heather.

These guys are not part of the problem.

And as Brett Weinstein said to me, and I think this is such a great statement, and I could say it about him.

He said, Glenn, you and I could be neighbors.

I think we'd be great neighbors.

Now, we couldn't be further from political

lineage here,

But we agree on certain principles, and that's where we need to get back to.

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I want to have

an adult conversation here,

which means

I want you to think of things in a different way.

I've been looking into this

Twitter and the Hunter Biden laptop and how Twitter

was found with what they did with the laptop and banning everybody from talking about the laptop.

They say it was a business decision.

And it was cleared by the FEC, the Federal Elections Commission.

And

my first knee-jerk was, of course, they get away with it.

But as I look into it and I listen to people

who

were actually there and helped make the decision, I think the SEC may have done the right thing

because we are a system of rules and I do not want mission drift from any government agency, especially the FEC.

I want to talk to and introduce you to Trey Trainer.

He is a commissioner of the Federal Election Commission.

He was appointed by President Donald Trump.

He, if I'm not not mistaken, he voted to say, you know, Twitter did no wrong, but I want you to listen to why.

Because this,

these are the moments of courage.

If you agree with what I believe he did,

these are the moments of courage that we must have.

And we must be careful not to condemn people

because they didn't take a shortcut.

No shortcuts.

They will only get us into more trouble.

Trey is with us now.

James E.

Trey Trainer, the third

from the FEC.

Trey, thank you for the courage for not only doing what you did, but also coming on the program today.

I know you're getting heat from all sides.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

And yes, I am.

And so I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about the decision that we made.

Okay, so we've got about eight minutes to go through this.

Here's the thing.

The Twitter and Jack blocked a New York Post story about the Hunter Biden laptop.

They said they were acting for business reasons.

My knee-jerk reaction is they weren't acting for business reasons.

They were censoring this to make sure that they weren't affecting the election in a negative way because they thought they got Donald Trump elected by covering all the stuff Donald Trump

said.

How did you view it and why did you guys come up with,

yeah, Twitter did no wrong here.

Well, Glenn, I'll always start with the fact that the Federal Election Commission is an agency that is explicitly designed by our government to limit our First Amendment rights.

And as such,

it really is the wrong vehicle to go after social media companies because there's really a greater harm to our First Amendment free speech rights if we were to expand the jurisdiction of the Commission.

And our court system has said that the sole purpose of the Federal Election Commission is to regulate constitutionally protected speech.

So we have a very limited jurisdiction and we need to be very protective of what we claim to be violations of campaign finance law.

And so go ahead.

If you would have, as I understand this,

and I haven't heard your opinion on this, but if I understand this, if you guys would have gone after Twitter, because

you're looking at Twitter and you're not determining whether or not they're a publisher or an editor.

You don't have that authority.

You're looking at them or you can look at them and say, this is an editorial decision.

Whether that's right or wrong, that's for another agency.

But if we, for an editorial decision, if we get them, then...

You can come after me on talk radio.

You can come after anybody who is doing things like this that claim to be an editor.

Is that

That is exactly correct.

You know, it is

if we were to say that the decision to throttle the Hunter Biden story was a violation of campaign finance, then we would have a flood of complaints where we would have to find the same thing, whether it be you,

you know,

God rest his soul, it would have been every time Rush went on the radio

explaining anything, it would have been all

everybody on the right would have gotten a complaint filed against them immediately if we would have found that Twitter had violated a campaign finance rule.

You know, and

I can understand why people think that it's a campaign finance violation because people of Goodwill, believing in the virtue of their cause, are going to reach for whatever tool they seem to see available.

And they think of the Federal Election Commission

as that entity that's the easiest to go after.

But when you look at it, the Federal Election Campaign Act was

last amended in 2002.

And so it really predates anything that we have to do in our modern world.

I mean, at that time, AOL was the biggest thing on the Internet, and we were still using modems and desktops.

So we're you know, they're trying to apply a statute

that that deals with technologies that are that are no longer existent and apply them to technologies where you know today people get

all of their news you know in the handheld device you know I mean 15% of adult Americans get their news from Twitter according to the

research writing in 2021 so we're talking about 39 million Americans getting their news from that entity and if you're going to allow a federal agency to start to regulate what an entity of news that goes to 39 million Americans can and can't say, then we're on a very slippery slope to the government regulating what any news site can say.

Right.

I mean, I know our Blaise Glenbeck world footprint is about 50 million Americans a month.

That's a lot of people, and we would be

in this regulation.

We would be massive, massive targets.

So let me ask you this, and you can comment on this or not, but

as I see this,

you could be saying, or others could be saying, look, I think this is an in-kind contribution

to the extent that they knew what they were doing.

They knew they were swinging the election, but

that because they're an editor, even though they claim they're not, because they have editorial license and content.

I can't call it

an in-kind contribution because it's technically not,

but that's kind of the way it feels to me.

Would that be fair to say that?

It would be fair.

I mean, look, they decided to moderate the content that their users were allowed to see.

But do you believe it was for actual business reasons?

I'm not asking you on the legal side.

I'm asking as a person does it does the the business what what was their business reason for doing this

well they have you know they have specific algorithms that are proprietary to to Twitter

they had concerns that material on the laptop itself had been hacked

they have they actually have written business policies that they produced to the Commission that show that they will not you know reproduce hacked materials

and they had concerns about criminal investigations that were ongoing.

And so

they have specific business purposes that they produced to the Commission that

they're not going to allow law enforcement material to be applied.

So they had

complex business reasons that preexisted the story related to Hunter Biden as part of their policy.

And so it was legitimate business activity on their part part that reflected a commercial consideration that they have.

And once you step into that realm,

the Commission no longer has jurisdiction over it.

And, you know, the fact of the matter is, is even if that commercial activity would have had an explicit partisan bias because it was, in fact, commercial activity, it was something that cannot be regulated by the federal government.

We don't want to be in the business of regulating how businesses are run and what editorial decisions they make uh when they're moderating those all right so wait so wait so let me ask you um one question here that is a change in me i've always been free market i still am i i am a i am a free market constitutionalist I don't think we have a free market anymore, and we haven't looked at the Constitution.

I mean, God knows what the National Archives are going to say about it next.

With that being said,

I'm to the point now where I think conservatives need to wake up.

And this may be different than your official role as the Federal Election Commission officer.

We have got to stop saying, well, it's private business.

They can do what they want.

These businesses are colluding with each other and with the United States

government and

a political party.

So it's not just a private thing anymore.

This is a public-private partnership.

And there's a difference between a free enterprise

and a corporation that is not getting all kinds of favors and everything else

and one that is.

So when you say we can't get into this realm, do you mean as conservatives and as

all aspects of the government or just the role of the SEC?

Well, I think first and foremost, I'm talking about the role of the Federal Election Commission.

But I think if you get back to first principles in talking about what we as conservatives need to do in order to

get back to our constitutional roots, we have to look towards what did the founders mean when they said that there is freedom of the press?

And they did not mean that we have to protect the modern journalistic class from some sort of

regulation.

What they meant by that rather was that we need to protect the printing press

and its modern analogies, the apparatus for being able to speak to the public.

And we have to protect the right of anyone to be able to disseminate their opinions, whatever those opinions may be,

you know, left, right, or center.

And that includes we have to protect the rights of Twitter to be able to disseminate

their

ideas,

even if they're partisan and even if they,

at the end, have an effect on what people believe from the news.

I mean,

this is the real problem with

the fake news is that we still have to protect that right to put out fake news.

Our founders were very, very clear on that.

Trey, I appreciate it.

I'm sorry, I wish we had more time.

I'd like to talk to you more, but I appreciate you coming on today.

I know it was not an easy choice, but thank you.

And please hold fast to the Constitution.

Whether our side wins or loses because of that, just do the right thing.

Continue to do it.

Trey, thank you so much.

Thank you so much, Glenn.

You bet.

Commissioner of the Federal Election Commission.

We have some really important decisions to make as a country, and not enough people are taking it seriously we're all just kind of playing the uh political game and that has to stop now or we are going to lose our country and there is um i don't know if you can feel the urgency that i feel but i hope you can um

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We're glad you're here.

Let me just give you a couple of things.

The police in the Capitol are bracing for justice for J6.

It's a rally.

They put up the razor wire and the fences again around the Capitol.

They're doing the same thing that the media always does.

They are hyping this and expecting violence.

Republicans are saying, steer clear of the rally.

Please don't, please be careful and be aware.

Ashley Babbitt's widower says, please, no violence at the Justice for Six rally on Sunday.

It'll only hurt.

Roger Stone

says, don't go.

Don't go.

I think this is a setup.

Now,

all of that sounds like a conspiracy theory until you realize what happened yesterday in Congress.

What happened yesterday is something

I never ever thought I would see.

This is

the news yesterday about the FBI that they are, it's being reported, they botched the case against Larry Nasser.

They didn't botch the case.

They lied.

They refused to do anything about it.

They didn't listen to the people who were assaulted sexually.

They didn't listen to the women.

And then when they filed the report, they made stuff up.

And yesterday, Christopher Wray said, that comes as a complete, as you know, that never happens.

We don't do that.

Yes, you do.

You do that all the time.

You did that apparently in the Whitmer kidnapped napping case.

You did that with the FISA courts.

You've done it now with Larry Nasser.

You keep doing it.

To be fair, he did say they were super duper sorry about it.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

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General Milley, I do not like to use the word treason because it is so specific in the Constitution and it requires the death penalty.

However, there has to be something that happens to General Milley.

I am so concerned about how out of control and how we don't care about chain of command.

We don't care about the Constitution anymore.

General Milley is defiant

over a pressure to resign.

He says, look, I did nothing.

It was the perfect phone call.

I'm sorry.

It doesn't seem like it was.

And the one person that I really wanted to hear from was was General Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, who is the Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council.

General,

what do you take from this?

What?

Is this normal?

No.

I've never seen this before.

I know that you could go back in time to MacArthur and say as he ignored Harry Truman's orders and kept threatening the Chinese that he was eventually relieved.

But that's the only thing in the history of our military that I'm even aware of.

Let me make one correction on what you said.

Treason does not require, it does not mandate the death penalty.

There are other penalties that can be assessed as well.

And treason, one of the definitions of treason and part of the statutory definition of treason is providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

Now when you tell your enemy that you are going to notify them if we decide we're going to attack,

what are you doing if you're not providing aid and comfort to the enemy?

This is an unprecedented situation with Mark Millian.

I know that there are credible people that are saying, no, these phone calls are routine.

It's not the fact that he was talking to the Chinese.

It's the content.

It's the content of what he was saying to them and the fact that he did that behind the back of the president and did not inform the president.

And statutorily, he commands nothing.

He is the senior military advisor to the president on all things military, but he has no command authority at all.

As the statutory advisor to the president, you would think that he would let the president know this was undermining the president no matter how you cut it.

He was undermining the president, and it's based on his political persuasion as well as his hatred for Donald Trump.

I will tell you that I would say exactly the same thing, and I think you would too, if a general would have done this in Afghanistan and called England and said, look, and I got to give you the heads up,

and did what we all think would have been the right thing to do for the president to do.

But if a general would have done these things, I would have been out of my mind.

We are run by civilians, and I hate what this president is doing to our military and to our credibility around the world and to our citizens in Afghanistan.

But the thing I was proud of is I know the troops felt the same way, yet they did it because it was a legal and lawful order.

Glenn, you said it, civilian control of the military.

That is so fundamental to who we are as a nation.

That is not only

an operating principle, but it's an ethos.

We believe in civilian control of the military.

And

when you do what Mark Milley has done, you are setting yourself up to supplant the authority of the president,

which under Article II of our Constitution, he is the Commander-in-Chief.

So let me get...

Go ahead.

No, no, please finish.

I just find this

so grievous, and it's not a Republican or Democrat issue.

Correct.

Every American.

Every American should be very concerned right now because this is the first time in our history that we've seen this kind of thing

as a rogue.

I consider Mark Milley to be a rogue, not just based on this, but on other things where he went off on this white rage issue

and he was

bragging about the fact that he's reading Kendi's books and other things.

Every American should be very concerned about this because

if this had gone as far as it could have potentially gone,

this would have essentially been a military coup.

So let me ask you a couple of scenarios here and just help me think things through.

Apparently, I mean, if he would have called the Chinese and said that, and you can dismiss this as like, we've known each other for a long time.

And so I'm just, look, if nothing's crazy going to happen, blah, blah, blah, and I'll call you in advance.

If the president would have said, hey, call your guys and say this is fine, but the president wasn't involved, No matter who else was involved, because this is them trying to say, well, there are lots of people that knew about this phone call, not the president, but lots of people were in on it.

Well, that to me makes it worse.

Isn't that a conspiracy then to thwart the authority of the commander-in-chief?

I go back to what I said earlier.

He is the senior advisor to the president on all things military.

Now, you can't have those kinds of conversations and not do your statutory duties, and that is to keep the president informed.

This was undermining the president.

And I understand that he can talk to the Chinese, the Russians, even the Iranians or whoever he wants to talk to.

But he does have a statutory responsibility to keep the president advised.

as the senior advisor to the president on all things military.

And his intent was to do this without the president knowing it and to undermine the president.

And if Esper, in fact, knew about it, the two of them are complicit in this.

But Chris Miller says he did not know about the call that was allegedly made while he was the acting Secretary of Defense.

That would have been Milley's direct boss, correct?

Yeah.

Well, that's a no.

No.

There is a concept called the national command authority.

That's the people who have the authority to deploy forces.

That is the Secretary of Defense and the President of the United States.

Milley is an advisor.

He does not have command authority.

He's an advisor.

So

obviously, any chairman that is worth his his weight is going to keep in close contact with the Secretary of Defense.

He would tell the Secretary of Defense there was no make a call like that.

He would keep him informed in terms of what the outcome of that was.

He might even share the transcript with him.

But apparently that did not have, certainly did not handle with Chris Miller.

And that then calls into question, why did you not inform the Secretary of Defense, who is one half?

of the national command authorities that has the authority to deploy troops unless you were trying to undermine both him and the president.

All right, so they are the national command authorities.

So let me see if I have this understanding right on the second part of this.

And that is, Nancy Pelosi was involved.

She was concerned that, you know, Trump was just going to turn the keys and we were going to blow up China.

And

he's spinning this as he said to underlings, you know, follow the chain of command.

The other way of looking at this is he was saying, call me first,

if before you follow anything, you call me first.

Isn't that exactly the opposite of what I understand to be the way our especially nuclear system works?

You assume that if it is coming with the correct code, that it takes two people, not just the president, and you must not disobey that order.

You don't pick up the phone and call someone else.

In fact, you're trained not to because it could be

a fake on the other end.

It could be a misunderstanding.

You do not make any decision other than turn the key if you saw those codes coming across.

Is that right?

That is the way the entire system is set up.

And keep this in mind too, Glenn.

When a young man or woman enlists in the military,

part of their oath is that they pledge to support

or to obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over me.

Now the officer commissioning is just slightly different.

It doesn't have those words, but it has the same meaning in terms of

obeying the orders of the President because he's the commander-in-chief according to article two so now you've got millie in there saying don't do anything

if you get any of these orders don't do anything don't do anything until i'm in the loop don't which puts me first puts us at

grave danger right i mean we're not talking about what it what happened we're talking about what could happen and why it is so vital that no general ever is allowed to do anything like this.

No,

there is, again, there's no precedent for this.

Yes, MacArthur ignored his orders.

He ignored the warnings that Harry Truman had given him, but there is nothing like what we've seen here with Millie.

And I know that there are people who support Millie,

good people who I have confidence in that are supporting Millie on this thing, but saying, but he has routinely talked to the Chinese.

Yeah, that's right.

But has he routinely advised the president of the content of those conversations or the Secretary of Defense of his intent to talk to them?

Because the President and the Secretary of Defense are the national command authorities, and they're the only ones that can deploy and put troops into harm's way.

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Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin.

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I mean,

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So, General,

what should happen

to General Milley?

Well, I think that he needs to step down, and there should be an investigation here, and we should find the whole story.

We need to get to the bottom of everything that happened, and

then if in fact

he is found to have committed treason, then

I think that

he has to be treated accordingly.

And again, it's not an automatic death penalty.

That's not.

I thought that's what was in the Constitution.

I'll have to go back and check.

It allows for the death penalty, but it can also be as low as a $10,000 fine for treason.

So now, treason in wartime

is

normally carries a higher penalty.

But if you look at these lieutenant colonels and others that have spoken out about how they feel about the chain of command, etc., and they've all been fired immediately, don't we have a double standard here?

Of course we do.

Of course we do.

On the things that people should be worried about and standing up for and making sure that something pays, somebody pays attention, how high on the priority list with everything that's going on?

How high on the priority list is this?

I think this is a very high priority, Glenn, because, again, every American needs to be concerned about this.

Listen,

look, I look at Joe Biden and his administration, and I say this is a dysfunctional administration.

And clearly, when they cut the mic off on the president routinely to make sure that he doesn't say something foolish that's going to create problems.

You've got a problem there.

And I think every American should be concerned that

if a military officer can undermine the commander-in-chief of our military and working in coordination with the Speaker of the House, for example,

this is a problem that is extra-constitutional.

This is a problem that could ultimately be the end of

our country as we know it and this whole idea of civilian control of the military.

We are a constitutional republic.

Let me ask you this.

We have been so undermined by the Biden administration and the pullout of our troops in Afghanistan.

And I mean, we've just betrayed everybody.

There is something else that Biden has just said that he is going to share

U.S.

and British nuclear submarine technology with Australia.

France is out of their mind about this.

And I want to give you this and see what you think.

Macron said, this is a regrettable decision, and it only reinforces the need to make the issue of European strategic autonomy loud and clear.

There is no credible way to defend our interests and our values in the world, including in the Indo-Pacific.

Isn't he saying that we have got to pull away from this big relationship with America because

we can't trust them.

We have to trust ourselves?

Absolutely, Glenn.

Listen, the Europeans for

probably two decades have talked about and even experimented with creating

a separate entity, a separate military force aside from NATO to where the European Union.

And that's what it would be.

It would be European Union nations that they would have a military that they could use without the influence of the NATO commander, which is always an American.

And that's an American because they asked for America to take control of this.

But yeah, you could see them

forming this separate from NATO or even NATO going away.

This is a tough situation.

And thank you very much, General.

I appreciate your time and your advice.

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This is a song that is forever at least burned into my memory

as the song for the heroes of 9-11.

Superman

by John Andrasic.

John is an amazing guy.

He's a singer-songwriter

for Five for Fighting.

I think he's been on the show before,

our show, but I don't know his politics.

I know that he stands up for the military.

I know that he is trying

to do good with his power and his career.

And I have, I'm not only a fan,

I also am a fan of

a nice guy.

He's trying to be a good guy.

He's getting some heat because he's coming on this program.

He tweeted, I'm going to be on the Glenbeck Radio program talking about blood on my hands and the current situation on the ground in Afghanistan.

And he got a lot of heat from some of his fans.

If he had any shred of dignity, you wouldn't go on these shows that continue to lie about the election and vaccines.

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somebody else, I'm surprised to see he's one of the people hurting us.

I'm so sad to see his choice to join with Liars and Demagogues.

That's a good name of our show instead of, you know, Glenn and Stu, Liars and Demagogues, maybe.

We welcome now to the program John Androsic.

Hi, John.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn.

Demagogue is a good name for a rock band.

The Demagogues.

You are in the news this week because you wrote a song, and I don't know when rock and roll roll became, you know, obey the man and

don't question authority.

But you wrote a song, and I want to play a little bit of it, Blood on My Hands.

And it was, you're not allowed to promote it on Facebook.

Here it is.

This I think is something that everybody is feeling right now.

I don't understand what's happening and I just want to ask some questions.

And

you are asking some pretty profound questions and some questions that every American should be asking.

Tell me, Willie, Millie, when did you

this will defend?

Your sacred motto now means never mind.

Why can't Blinken, why can't you look us in the eye?

I mean, those are important things to question.

Tell me where the song came from and the reaction to it.

Well, you know, Glenn, I think like everybody, when the first imagers started coming out of Afghanistan, you know, the people falling off planes and mothers throwing their babies over walls and, you know, people getting crushed at checkpoints.

It kind of in a way reminded me of 9-11 and just the horrific images and that kind of stunned what is happening.

But it really didn't really didn't start forming as a song till the day our 13 soldiers were killed and 100 Afghans were killed by the suicide bomber.

Like

musicians and

probably you, you probably have a punching bag or something you do or go for a walk or a run when you get mad.

I sit at the piano and just bang.

And I went up there and still had no intention of writing a song.

But then a few days later when I was driving my family to Mammoth for a nice weekend, I got a call from a friend and I pulled over and she said to me, hey, I need some help.

Can you give me a certain contact to some folks I know?

And I said, sure, what's going on?

And she said, well, I'm organizing EVACs of ASITs.

and SIVs from Afghanistan.

And I'm like,

again,

I'm a naive singer.

I'm like, like, what's an AMSIT, ASIT?

She's like, American citizen.

And I'm like, wait a minute, you're telling me that private citizens are

risking their lives to go rescue our people that our government left behind.

And this is a toughie, this woman.

And she started crying.

And I'm like, what is happening?

So

a couple verses were written that day.

And then

finally, when President Biden came out and gave his extraordinary success speech, speech,

obviously, like all of us, I was kind of stunned.

And I was hopeful because I've always, as you know, I've been a big supporter of the military, and I was hopeful that General Milley and General Austin will come out and put some perspective on that.

Because I've always felt, look, politicians are who they are, but our generals are the adults in the room, and if things get really sketchy,

they'll make, you know, at least make the right decisions or be honest with us.

But when they started parroting the, oh, extraordinary success, look at this amazing EVAC, everything went according to plan, I got scared.

I'm like, this is dangerous, because I realized at that moment this is not a humanitarian mission, this is not a military mission, this is a political exercise.

So the last few verses about Millie and Austin and Blinken basically wrote themselves.

And then, you know, I waited till 9-11 was over, because certainly you don't want to put a song like this out over that weekend.

And I put it out the next day.

And I think a lot of people agree with the message.

Unfortunately, we're such a tribal country that there's many folks who are not interested in

letting me hear it.

And I'm not accusing Facebook of that because I think this was more of an algorithm thing.

But the problem is, you know, that we've seen so many examples of censorship from big tech that when something like this happens, it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But it's getting out there.

People are resonating.

I'm getting hundreds of emails from all walks of life, all political stripes, certainly veterans, military families.

So I think it's an important message because, as you said, it's a moral issue.

It's not a political issue.

And deep down, we all know what happened was a calamity.

I'll tell you, John, I've never, I mean, I've been embarrassed by my country historically.

You know, there were times.

that I've seen some of our presidents say things, do things, and I'm like, oh, geez, that's going to leave a mark.

And there were times, even under Donald Trump, that I thought, I'm embarrassed.

Stop, stop tweeting, stop saying these things.

You know what I mean?

That's different than his policies, which I generally supported.

But this was the first time that I felt my country

in the time, you know what I mean?

I know we've done it in the past, but in real time, this is the first time I have been shocked, horrified, scared

at the lack of honor.

And I think people, no matter what walk of life, I think we all felt this is dishonorable, really dishonorable.

You wrote a line, I can't hear her scream if she's not, if she's not on TV.

I can't hear him scream if he's not, he's not, he's not on TV.

What do you mean by that?

I can't agree with you more.

And just to echo what you said, if Donald Trump were president and we were in this situation, I would write the same song.

And the names would change.

It would be the same song because it is a moral issue.

And believe me, I'm no huge Trump fan, and I've been embarrassed by him before.

But as this is, I think, a generational catastrophe because our word

the American word matters.

No man left behind matters.

And why would anybody trust us again?

I am ashamed.

Glenn, Glenn, I just got off the phone with my friend who I mentioned inspired the song.

I talked to her every day, though she goes radio silent, you know, for a couple days, and then I start to worry.

But literally, when you guys called, I hung up with her.

She was telling me about a music school that was burned down by the Taliban.

And the children are in hiding, and they're trying to get them out.

But they're having, struggling with the State Department because there's this thing called a lily pad transfer.

I'm learning all this stuff.

I have no idea.

That they have to get permission from a country to take them.

That's happening right now, okay?

What do we see on television?

You know, certain usual suspects still focus on Afghanistan, but the media has moved on.

And to me, that's a shame.

I feel ashamed because you're right.

If it's not on TV, it doesn't matter in America.

And those kids are trapped.

There's people getting tortured.

And it's on us.

It didn't have to happen.

And it's not about the decision to withdraw or not.

We could have done it in a much orderly way.

We could have kept bog rum.

We could have kept a small force, kept air power.

It would have been very I wouldn't say easy, but it didn't have to be this way, and it doesn't have to be this way now.

But that's happening as we speak.

And we're supposed to be a compassionate country.

I hear that from

some of the folks on the other side that frankly don't have any interest of playing this song.

And I'm wondering, is this America 2.0?

And I really don't like it very much.

And I'm with you.

I'm ashamed.

And I don't know what to do.

Sometimes songwriters have no words.

It's rare, but I have no words.

Sean,

do you have any thoughts on

what the hell has happened

to

the arts community, the songwriters, the musicians?

Rock and roll

is a rebellion.

It is about questioning authority.

I mean, when you're going after

Eric Clapton for a song about COVID-19 and the lockdown, when you're going after Clapton,

what has rock and roll and music become?

Isn't it ironic that rock and roll,

speaking to the man,

now the music industry and all the publications is the man?

It's surreal.

They used to appreciate rebels.

Now they have pseudo-rebels.

And they're all, I think, I I think it's two things.

I think there are people who agree with our sentiments.

And I think pretty much everyone does.

But they're scared.

It will affect their career.

They may get canceled.

They may get their concerts canceled.

And if the machine comes after them, they're scared.

And I think the other side of it is what permeates the whole country is the tribal group think.

We've gotten to a point where we're so tribal that no matter what the issue is, we don't think it, look at, look at it through a moral lens, we look at a political lens.

Does this hurt our side or not?

And if it hurts our side, we're going to buy and parrot.

And I'll say this to your audience.

What's happening with the left on the extraordinary success is similar to what happens on the right with Donald Trump won in a landslide.

All these people are walking around.

Donald Trump won in a landslide.

Donald Trump did not win a landslide.

Donald Trump lost the election.

Similar with this Afghanistan parroting of an extraordinary success, what an evac.

And it was disgusting to see some of the Democrats in the Congress questioning Blinken, basically just towing that party line when they know deep down this is catastrophic for America.

That's a sickness.

That's a malignancy this country has.

And if we don't address that, then I fear for our grandchildren.

Because if it's an Orwellian narrative, it's an Orwellian world.

And we're moving down that path.

John, I appreciate

what you're doing.

If you wouldn't mind holding, I'd like to talk to you off air about your friend in Afghanistan.

I don't know if you're aware of what we're doing.

I can't make any promises, but I can at least see if

we can help it all.

It is, if our country isn't going to do it, it is our personal responsibility

that we

do the right thing, even if our country doesn't.

John, thank you.

Hold on for just a second.

If you want to hear

the song, you can find it pretty much anywhere.

Blood on My Hands.

It is a song that is not sticking it to the man, is asking the man, what the hell is going on.

I think we deserve some answers.

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We just talked to John Androsic.

He's from the, he's the singer singer-songwriter from Five for Fighting.

He has a new song out called Blood on My Hands.

We are always

begging for culture.

I think he's the best songwriter we have on, you know, and I can't say on our side, on the side of the republic, on the side of decency.

And everybody is asking for culture.

He is a major force in culture.

The only one that I'm aware of in

that Republicans that have retweeted his song or put out on social media, Blood on My Hands, is I think Burgess Meredith.

No, not

Burgess Owens.

Burgess Meredith.

He's been dead for a while.

That would have been incredible.

I mean, that is a tweet I would have liked to have seen.

I would have liked to see that too.

But Burgess Owens,

please send this.

everywhere.

I'm going to tweet it.

I'll put it on all my social media

and you'll be able to retweet it or post it yourself.

But please get this out.

This is culture.

And this is where we always lose.

Here's a guy who is fighting for the things of decency.

And he is a force in the culture.

And they're doing everything they can to shut him down.

We need to pick up that ball and help support people like this.

And that goes to Congress.

Send this to everybody in Congress and say, why isn't your office retweeting this?

This is a great message.

John Andrasik, the name is Blood on My Hands.

We need a little grassroots organization here to support somebody who is actually doing the right thing

and using their talent

for good.

You look into him at all, you'll see he's a really good guy.

A really, really good guy.

And I'm sorry if my support hurts him, but you know, with people that are like, oh my gosh, I can't believe Glenn Beck likes fight for fighting.

Shouldn't music cross all lines?

Shouldn't it?

Do you have to vote for one person to be able to like a group?

Because if that's the way it is, You should question yourself before you wreck yourself.

Because that's wrong.

That's wrong.

This is the Glenn Back program.

That wreck my credibility.

You know, it really bothers me when people say the

Afghans did not push back.

They just dropped the weapons and they ran.

Well, some did, but there's some good reasons for that, but others have not.

Others are others have not given in to the Taliban at all.

There is a fight that is going on in Panjir,

in Afghanistan, by these incredible freedom fighters that are pushing back the Taliban and all of the bad guys.

We have one of the guys who is the head of foreign relations for the Resistant Front of Afghanistan.

His name is Ali Nazari, and he joins us to tell us what's really going on

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Ali Nazari, he is the head of foreign relations for the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan.

Not a lot of coverage of what people are doing in Afghanistan, trying to stand up to the Taliban.

And the greatest example of that is happening in the Panjir Valley in Afghanistan.

Welcome, Ali, to the program.

How are you?

Good morning.

Thank you for having me.

You bet.

So tell me what's going on.

Tell us the truth about

that there are people that are resisting and

it's working in many cases.

So

you have freedom fighters

in northern Afghanistan, in the Painshir Valley, who have launched a resistance, who are being led by Commander Ahmad Massoud, the son of the late Ahmad Shah Massoud, who was assassinated two days before 9-11,

who is resisting, who has been resisting the Taliban for the past few weeks.

The Taliban have been unable to defeat these forces.

We're determined to resist and to fight these terrorists, this criminal syndicate,

until we're able to

bring freedom to every single citizen of Afghanistan.

So

can we back up for just a second?

Because I have heard

Ahmad Shah Masad,

his name brought up in reverence when I talked to people from Afghanistan.

I don't really know his story and I don't know why he was killed before 9-11.

But I know now his son is leading the charge.

Tell me the significance and the history that Americans should know about that.

Who is he?

Who was he?

And who's his son?

Well, the late commander Ahmad Shah Massoud, he started his struggle in the late 1970s against the Soviet Union, against Soviet aggression and communism.

So he was an ally of the United States from the late 1970s.

And then

in the 1980s, he fought against the Soviets.

In the 1990s, he started his struggle against international terrorism, against the Taliban and their international terrorist friends or allies, and he was assassinated by al-Qaeda two days before 9-11.

The two events, 9-9-2001 and 9-11, 2001, are interconnected.

9-11 wouldn't have been possible if he was alive because he was

fighting the Taliban al-Qaeda throughout the five years from 1995-1996 up to 2001 when he was assassinated.

And how old was his son when his dad died?

Can you repeat it?

Sorry, yeah,

how old was his son, who's now taking his place?

How old was his son when his dad died?

His commander, Ahmad Masood, his son, was only 12 years old when he lost his father.

And so now

he is fighting against the Taliban just like his father.

And tell me what the progress is and

what they're doing.

So fortunately the Taliban have not been able to take over the strategic areas of Panchir.

So we control more than 65% of Panchir province.

We control parts of other districts that neighbor Panchir.

Our forces are well equipped.

We have remnants of the special forces trained by the United States that are fighting alongside our local resistance forces.

So right now, we are in a good position.

We will be seeing more advances in the next few weeks or so.

The Taliban are experiencing in fighting.

They are experiencing a rift within their group.

Yeah, big time.

But we're determined.

to fight for democracy, for fight for freedom,

for fighting for the rights of every woman and man inside Afghanistan.

We're the last remaining U.S.

ally in the country.

However, we feel abandoned.

We feel all alone because we're fighting international terrorism today.

Al-Qaeda is much stronger compared to 2001.

However, we're seeing the world abandon this global war on terror.

We're left alone inside Afghanistan to fight the global war on terror because al-Qaeda is fighting against us.

There were more than 500 Arab fighters more than a week ago that attacked us.

And I've I've put up the videos on social media where you have Arab-speaking fighters coming from Iraq and Syria saying we're going to the front in Panchir to fight these infidels.

So this isn't a civil war.

We're fighting international terrorism.

You have

the re-emergence of al-Qaeda inside Afghanistan at the moment.

They are allied with the Taliban.

The Taliban, which is a terrorist group, which is a Scarlet Syndicate, they're helping these terrorist groups re-emerge.

And this is the reality, that after 20 years, after 20 years of 9-11 happening and

U.S.

involvement inside Afghanistan, now we're seeing the country being abandoned

and the Taliban and these other terrorist groups hijacking our country.

We have to do something.

How do you feel when you see people in the West and our leadership say,

you know, you, you know, we went over there, we spent 20 years, and the people just don't want freedom.

And so that's just the way it is.

How do you feel when you see that?

Let me give you an example.

A week ago, our leader,

His Excellency Ahmed Masood,

he

recorded a message to the nation.

He put it up.

Within two hours, within two hours, we had mass protests.

in Kabul, in Herat, in Mazar, the major cities, and even in rural Afghanistan.

He called upon the people to rise up against the Taliban.

So this shows the people of Afghanistan want freedom because since August 15, especially for the past 10 days that Commander Ahmad Massoud has called upon the people to rise up against the Taliban, we're seeing everyone, women, men,

old and young, rise up and express that they want freedom.

So this is completely wrong when people say, no, the people of Afghanistan wanted a regime like the Taliban.

No, look, today everyone is rallying and protesting for freedom, for their rights, for democracy.

And today, the legitimacy that we've shown

within a week,

in two days,

to be more specific, the Taliban were unable to show it in two decades because the Taliban did the same.

They would record messages calling upon the people of Afghanistan to rise up against the government in Kabul and against NATO forces.

But the people never said yes.

They never followed the orders of the Taliban.

But our leader, he says, go protest, go rise up against the Taliban.

Within a few hours, you see the masses

mobilize.

And within Afghanistan and outside of Afghanistan, they started their protests in favor of the National Resistance Front and in favor of freedom and independence

and democracy inside the country.

We're talking to the head of foreign relations of the National Resistance Front in Afghanistan about what's really going on there.

When you hear people say here in America, you got to stand up and protest, it doesn't really mean an awful lot here in America because we've had that right forever.

We're losing it, but we've had that right forever.

But there, with the Taliban, that can mean, especially if you're a woman,

a death sentence, a prison sentence, a beating, rape.

Am I wrong on that?

No, you're completely right because of the risks.

Just look at the photos.

So in the protests, the Taliban have beaten women.

They've shot

and shot women.

And there's pictures of them pointing their guns towards women.

So there's a lot of risks when people come out in these Taliban-controlled areas to protest, to

endorse and support the national resistance funds.

But the people want to do this because they want their freedom.

They don't want to give up their freedom.

These people are freedom-loving individuals that will not allow any oppression, any sort of oppression to come upon them.

And unfortunately, right now, that oppression is coming with weapon, with arms and munitions funded by American taxpayer money because basically everything was left for them.

All of this weaponry, all of these equipment that were purchased by American taxpayers today is in the hands of the Taliban, killing women, killing democratic forces, fighting against the last remaining U.S.

ally, which is the National Resistance Front led by Mr.

Ahmed Massoud.

So, this is the irony.

May I ask you for either a confirmation or a clarification?

Our government says there are two Talibans.

There's the old Taliban and the new Taliban.

And we're hoping the new Taliban is going to be great.

It's from my understanding from sources on the ground, there are two Talibans.

There's the old Taliban, which is exactly like it was, and then there's a new Taliban that is even more extreme and even more dangerous.

Is that true or not?

Of course, of course.

You have the old guard that have the same mentality as before, which there is a minority now.

They haven't changed.

But the new Taliban, it's a new brand of the Taliban.

It's much more radical in their ideology.

And they believe that their revolution should be exported, that their jihad should be exported.

They've been successful in Hassan Afghanistan.

They should take this jihad and this revolution.

this struggle throughout the Islamic world and save other oppressed Muslims.

So you have a much more radicalized Taliban that is more closer to ISIS and al-Qaeda ideologically than the Taliban we saw 25 years ago.

Okay, so one more question.

The National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, you're in the Panjir Valley,

and it's my understanding that one of the problems is it's, you know, Afghanistan is not America where we have 50 states, but we're really kind of one.

Or, you know,

it's a group of tribes and areas that want their freedom to run themselves and not necessarily a national government.

And

it is my understanding that that national government was very corrupt.

And that led to a lot of the soldiers just walking away because they had been sold out.

And there was no real local governors.

There were no local mayors or local police.

It was all run through the federal government.

And that's what caused the immediate drop of arms at the very beginning.

Is that true?

If not, what did happen?

Why did the resistance, when the Afghan government still held the cities and the weapons, why did they walk away from those things?

So one problem with Afghanistan is that Afghanistan doesn't have any ethnic majority.

Basically, everyone in Afghanistan are minorities.

It's a country made up of ethnic minorities.

And for this reason,

Afghanistan cannot have a highly centralized political system,

which it has for centuries.

And especially in the past 20 years, one of the reasons we had corruption, one of the reasons we had a weak government, is because of the highly centralized presidential system.

For the past 50 years, our our

movement, whether it's now the National Resistance Front or before that, which was led by the late commander Ahmad Shah Massoud, we have always been asking for a decentralized state where power is equally distributed between all the ethnic groups, all the provincial provinces, and all the districts.

So there could be a more federated state.

You have to adopt federalism for a country like Afghanistan, meaning every region has its own autonomy, has its own decision-making process, policy-making process, because we've been failing with the same formula inside Afghanistan for the past 200 years, especially for the past 50 years.

A highly centralized government will always create conflict in Afghanistan, will always result in a zero-sum game over the competition for power.

And this is

just another way of continuing internal warfare in the country.

So in our perspective, if we want lasting peace in Afghanistan, if we want to end the perpetual conflict over power, we have to weaken Kabul, we have to distribute power to the localities, to the different regions.

Wow.

It's amazing that America that used to understand federalism didn't get that in Afghanistan, and it is the solution for not only our problems, but

your problems, and I think the world's problems.

Local, local, local.

Give people control over their own lives.

Ali Nazari from the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan.

Blessings go with you.

Keep up the fight for

all things that are right and just

and against the Taliban and their ilk.

Thank you so much.

You can follow him on Twitter

at Ali Nazari

and follow the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan.

It's a very complex situation.

I don't know who's right, who's wrong on everything, but these guys are the resistance of the Taliban in the Panchir Valley.

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Listen,

the cowboy life is about tradition.

We are self-reliant and answer to no one.

Yes, mom.

Can you tell your mom I said hi?

Welcome to Radiator Ranch.

There's a lot to learn from our way of life, so you may as well learn it from the best.

The one and only, Dale Brisby.

Are you crying?

It's a circle of life.

I appreciate Mother Nature.

If you don't, then you ain't no cowboy.

Oh, yeah.

One, two,

three.

If you're not a cowboy, go step in here.

How to be a cowboy is on Netflix,

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No evidence of him being on a bull ever, but legend has it that he has been 90 in Maine, Spain, Spokane, Fort Wayne, Alabama.

And

by legend, we mean his YouTube channel.

Welcome to the program, Dale Brisby.

How are you, sir?

Oh, it's good to be here.

Thanks for rolling out the red carpet, sir.

You bet.

So

I had a thought the other day.

Somebody had said about one of the guys, one of the congressmen that went over to save people in Afghanistan.

The headline was, he's acting like a cowboy.

And I thought, yeah, if you mean live by a set of code that includes honor and integrity, yeah.

And we give cowboys,

the elites give cowboys a bad name, but the cowboy life is who I think every man

should try to emulate.

I agree 100%.

It's funny that you say that because I was looking up articles about the Netflix show and I looked and definition of a cowboy popped up.

One definition was someone who tends to livestock, usually horseback.

The second definition was typically aggressive or something like that.

And I thought,

well, we might be aggressive in that we ride a bull, but I mean, we're, as you might see in the show, like, we're pretty caring towards animal and our fellow human beings.

Yeah, I don't, I've never heard that.

I think you have to live out west and to actually have met cowboys to understand that they're some of the least aggressive guys.

I mean, I suppose you could walk into a bar and find some wannabe cowboy that is aggressive.

But generally speaking, cowboy, if you live out west and to me means a guy who a cowboy contract looks you in the eye shakes your hand and that's all you need you don't need writing you don't need an attorney it's going to be done there's honor

absolutely man you gave me chill bumps the way you described it just because you know i think maybe people have the old western show in mind where they they envision a guy in a bar like what you're talking about and he's real aggressive and he's he's drinking from a bottle that has three x's on it you know and he gets in a duel right um but i've never been in any duels and uh my old man was kind of a description of what you just said a mix between john wayne and woodrow f call from lonesome dove and when you shook his hand it meant meant something yeah

um so i i am i'm a rancher and when i say i'm a rancher I have a farm and a ranch and I go there from time to time and I'll cut like, you know, the hayfield until I get bored.

And then I'll get off and I'll say, all right, go ahead.

So I'm not really a rancher or a farmer, but it is the life that I tried to get away from with my family as a kid.

I just wanted to live in New York City.

And it is the life I would give everything to be able to return to full-time.

There is something about

living on a farm and

reconnecting with animals and

the land that makes us American.

And

you just, you don't have to teach an awful lot of stuff because you're taught just by living it.

Absolutely.

You know, the idea of the show actually came from, you know, me being a cowboy on social media, I get a lot of people that are thinking the exact same thing that you are.

And they'll reach out to me about wanting to learn about this lifestyle.

And that's where the show idea came from.

But essentially, they are seeing exactly what you're seeing.

Now, some people get here and they realize okay

i can work way less than this and make more money oh yeah doing something else well wait a minute hold on just a second you can raise cattle and make money you'll have to tell me how that's done not much right okay

most people with big ranches you see are doing it because it's a tax write-off and you'll you'll notice like oh you guys do this because you love it you know

but uh

i haven't figured out the tax

write-off thing either, so I've got to get on that as well.

The changes to

farming, the changes to the ranching industry over the last few years, what does it mean to America if we lose it?

Well,

I mean, shoot, we lose what's in the grocery store.

Unfortunately, you know, so I think that that's a start.

You know, it's just, I feel like people just just need to be less headline readers and look more at the facts of what this does for

the country.

I mean, we're literally feeding America.

And I think that that needs to be respected, not just used as a slang term for someone that might be too aggressive.

So I wanted to talk to you because I think

I mean, we're raising, and we've been doing this for about 30, maybe 40 years.

We're raising weak men, just absolutely weak men.

And that destroys nations.

And

we need to find strong men.

And I'm in the midst of writing some stuff about cowboy rules.

And I wanted to know to you, from you,

what are the things that

to you scream cowboy that men need to do?

Ah,

man, that's a lot.

That's a big question.

One thing that is interesting to me, there's a country singer, his name's Cody Johnson, and he told me he visited with the guy who wrote Chris Ledoux's biography.

Chris Ledoux is a cowboy, rodeo cowboy, very famous.

He passed away of cancer, unfortunately.

But the guy who wrote his biography said to Cody, the one thing I wish that I'd have put in this book that I didn't was Chris's definition of a cowboy.

And it was this.

He said, it's someone who lets their yes be yes and their no be no.

And,

you can get into the technical definition of the fact that you need to ride a horse every day to make your living, but essentially it's that code you're talking about.

And for me, it's God first, family second, and the rest all.

Love God, love people.

Right.

You know, as it says in Mark.

And

that's the start of being a cowboy, in my opinion.

So I want to ask you an if question.

If emphasis on the if, if Dale Brisby was a fictional character,

how would he fare on the TV show Yellowstone?

I mean, would he be taking people to the train station or would you be delivered to the train station if you're a fan of that show?

I don't know if you are.

I'm a fan of most things that Taylor Sheridan does, but no, it's,

you know, Dale Brisby is going to be that unique character that you can't figure out if he's the good guy or an outlaw.

You know, he's a

usually when Dale Brisbane.

That's one of the things I kind of like about, because we are so far away from

right and wrong and a cowboy culture.

And I don't mean a lawlessness, but there are times when you're just like, that shouldn't be that way.

We should be able to take care of that.

You know what I mean?

And so it's confusing to see now things you're like, well, that's the way it should be, but it's not that way.

So I don't know if if that's an outlaw or a good guy.

Does that make sense to you?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Well, there's, you know, there's that old saying, there's no honor among thieves.

Well, even the thieves are complaining about the way things are.

Make you question what's going on.

Well, it's good to talk to you.

Thank you so much.

Would love to

love to meet you.

I'd love to actually come out to the ranch and see you guys at some point.

Well, it's been great to interact with you and hear all that you're doing, you know, with the Nazarene Fund and et cetera.

I'm waiting to hear back from them on some stuff.

So I'm excited to help just

with the cause that you've got going on.

Oh, I do.

I wasn't aware of that, but thank you so much.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

Big thumbs up on those organizations that you're backing.

Thank you.

Well, you have huge fans here at the Mercury Studio.

The host of How to Be a Cowboy, Dale Brisby.

It's on Netflix.

It is a fun show that you should watch.

How to be a cowboy.

Takes everything people think about Texans and

takes it up about 10,000%.

Exactly.

Pretty much.

How to be a cowboy on Netflix.

Thanks so much, Dale.

Appreciate it.

God bless you.

Yes, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Beck.

Have a good day.

That's a cowboy thing.

Mr.

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That's a cowboy thing.

I hate it when people, when I call somebody Mr.

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I know, it's a sign of respect.

It's a, it's a good thing.

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Holy cow.

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Have we missed anything today?

I mean,

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Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we have.

We have.

Could you play cut four, please?

This is kind of important.

Here's a president yesterday.

Thank you.

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Thank you, Boris.

And I want to thank that fellow down under.

Thank you very much, pal.

Appreciate it all, Mr.

Prime Minister.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison, the Prime Minister of Australia,

kind of a big ally, kind of close.

I want to thank

that guy from down under.

Mr.

Prime Minister thanks pal

I don't think I've I mean

that's bad if I'm president I'm screwing up your name but at least I got it you know what I mean I don't call you pal

yeah you think you'd prepare for a moment like that like we've had like for example

We had an interview earlier today with a guy's name that it was a little difficult to pronounce if you just kind of read it off the paper.

Scott Johnson.

Scott Johnson.

And

we talked about it before we went on the air and said, hey,

how do we say that?

Now, you usually screw up all the names anyway, but we at least attempt.

Yeah, they try.

They try.

We try to help.

Jansen Jen.

No, it's Johnson, Glenn.

It's really not that hard.

It's Johnson.

That apparently is not a thing when it comes to.

I'm just going to start calling everybody on the show pal.

That is a good way to do it.

A sport

scout sports.

All of a sudden, he's in the Great Gadsby.

And you know what?

He probably was around for the Great Gadsby.

Hey, sport.

I think it's very possible he does that in a future.

We're talking, what was it, Australia?

Australia.

You know, I mean, if he's talking to someone from like Madagascar, it's definitely sport.

Like, he's going to be.

And it's Madagascar.

Everybody's going to be like,

even Madagascar would be like it's Madagascar They made that movie about

as good as we're ever gonna get Everybody thought it was just a cartoon place, right?

No, it's a real country

Shutter right here.

That's well, I didn't know that pal, but thank you for checking in.

That's what you say to the prime minister of Madagascar Not to Australia.

It seems strange.

And these moments only happen like every single day.

Every day.

Yeah, that's the good news.

The good news is it's only daily.

Yeah.

Or

multiple times per month.

But no, it was one thing.

It's one thing to be embarrassed by a guy who's sitting on the crapper and writing crazy things just to piss people off, just to see what they do.

You know what I mean?

That's all that Donald Trump, 90% of what Donald Trump did.

By the way, if you didn't, if you took him seriously the whole time, you missed out on a really good time.

Four years.

If you looked at him as a comical figure, you know, when he was doing, because a a lot of the stuff he was doing, because he was trying to be funny.

He was trying to

stir it up.

You know what I mean?

You noticed that when you saw him live.

He was one of the better comedians you've seen in a long time.

I will tell you, the guy has unbelievable comedic timing.

Unbelievable comedic timing.

He knows exactly what he's doing.

He was an artist and still is.

He's an artist when it comes to the way he does it.

And it's, you know, Boris Johnson, they say that he messes up his hair before he goes out.

Right.

Okay.

He wants to look disheveled.

He wants to look disheveled.

And

he's apparently not entirely like that.

But

it was, you know, his shtick.

That's Donald Trump.

Now, Donald Trump is that character because he's played that character his whole life.

But, I mean, he's a performer.

Anyway, you know, it was one thing to be embarrassed by a guy who is just trying to stir it up.

And then there's that sad kind of, I don't want to look the prime minister in the eye because it's our guy that just called him pal.

You know what I mean?

Then there's that embarrassment of, yeah, we've left everybody behind in Afghanistan.

We have no friends.

And I've just called you pal.

That's embarrassing.

That's embarrassing.

That's embarrassing.

The whole thing is embarrassing.

The entire presidency has been a nonstop beginning-to-end embarrassment so far.

And luckily, we're not even at one year yet.

Oh, yeah, no, we have three years to

it's only

gonna get better because I watched Benjamin Buttons, he's getting younger.

Yeah, he's getting younger.

It's basically our only hope at this point.

I mean, we just have to.

And would you be surprised if all of a sudden we all were in Benjamin Buttons?

No, and he started to get younger.

You'd be like, Yeah, par for the course.

Yeah, yeah.

Who didn't see that happen?

I mean, I guess we weren't just paying attention.

This is the Glenn Beck program.