Best of The Program | Guests: Lara Logan, Chad Robichaux, & Sen. Cotton | 8/26/21

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Live from the Middle East, Glenn gives an update on the situation in Afghanistan. Investigative journalist Lara Logan joins with what she’s heard about why the State Department is blocking rescue landings. Bombs have gone off at the Kabul airport, and mass casualties are being reported. Mighty Oaks Foundation founder Chad Robichaux joins with the latest updates from his rescue missions. America’s on the wrong side of the Afghanistan debacle. Sen. Tom Cotton joins with an update on Washington D.C.’s response.
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Welcome to the podcast on a dark day in U.S.

history.

As we were doing the show, Glenn will give you some great updates on the work that has been done through the Nazarene Fund.

And at least, thank God they acted quickly because the situation in the middle of the show

shook out of control.

You of course probably know by now the bombing that went off.

That happens in the middle of the program today.

And you can get our instant reaction to it and

some attempt to put it in perspective, though.

It's impossible to put a failure like this into perspective.

It really is.

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I'll have all the details as they come out, but there's just not much more to say.

This is a terrible, terrible day.

Here's the podcast.

You're listening to

the best of the Glenbeck program.

Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

I just want you to know, we'll talk about this later, but I want you to know

the discrediting of the Nazarene Fund and probably me and this program is coming

because we are not making friends with the State Department.

We got a tip

today

from

a news organization that had

somebody inside of a government organization, and they said that there was a meeting today

about

us, and the warning was they're coming.

And I know that, and that's fine.

And

what we're doing here is we believe God's work, and so be it.

If this is the end of our career, my career, it's fine.

I am totally fine with that.

I just want you to know that awful things are going to be said in the future.

I hope not.

I hope not.

But

they're not going to let us sit here

and do what we've done without ramifications.

Laura Logan is with us now.

Hello, Laura.

How are you?

You know, hey, Glenn, I'm very glad to be here.

And I will tell you, I don't care what they say,

I will stand stand by you and the Nazarene Fund because the only people right now who are more evil than al-Qaeda and the Taliban are the State Department and the agency and all the others who are doing everything possible in their power to prevent decent Americans and good people

standing up for our allies and rescuing people and saving them from certain deaths.

And I've been up all night working this for eight days, and it is reprehensible.

So Laura, people don't understand

what, how can the State Department do this?

What are they doing exactly?

What is the White House?

How are they thwarting?

Can you share some examples?

Oh, yeah, easily.

So because I've been doing this all night.

So,

well, for example, I have had, like, I had 1050 people, families, that I ripped out of their homes with children and everything else, all of whom are targeted for death because they worked for 60 minutes or they were legendary

in the military and

fought the Taliban al-Qaeda.

And as the plane was coming into land, my American Special Operations contact told me that they had been denied clearance.

So suddenly out of nowhere, when they had clearance before, they're denied clearance.

The pilots, and I will tell you there's so many operators on the ground who are just outraged at what they're being asked to participate in and be part of, this betrayal.

And so the team running the operation said, no, we're not going to do it.

We're landing anyway.

And they went to look without a landing strip and without lights for a place to land.

And they were coming in, and they were threatened that they would be shot down.

So they had to, you know, they had to circle and they were running out of fuel.

And they've gone back.

to another country and they're trying to to get the clearances again to come back in and being blocked by by the State Department.

Yesterday, the State Department changed again the evacuation paperwork.

They changed the paperwork.

You're in the last few moments.

I'm going to tell you now, Ben,

I heard all through yesterday and through last night that by nightfall today in Kabul, which is not far away, they would be gone.

We have reports of the 82nd Airborne

evicting Christians and American citizens and others from the airports and bulldozing checkpoints.

We have reports of gates being welded shut, which of course I can't confirm from a distance, but there's been multiple reports.

I will tell you, we have those same reports, Laura.

So there's a second source.

We have the same reports.

And I just, I got to tell you that, I mean, I have literally got photographs of, you know, a pregnant woman, wife of a DEA agent, with a child at the checkpoint, battered and beaten and bloody, who's fought her way to get there.

We've got special operators, special operations guys, and Marines who are out there rescuing people, risking their lives, only to get to the airport and be denied access by the U.S.

government, whether they instruct the Marines or the 82nd on the Gates to shut them down, whether they shut down the Marines.

Right now, one of my contacts that I've been working with for days said that he's had, you know, dozens and dozens of messages to the Marines have now gone unanswered.

They've stopped talking to them.

Everybody's scrubbing their packages, and they're on their way out.

And, you know, now there's reports of a suicide bomber and gunfire, which families that I'm in touch with on the ground witnessed.

And I was talking them through it and trying to keep them calm.

But I tell you what makes me so angry.

They're going to, you watch, they're going to say that they had to shut everything down early because of the threat level.

And it is absolute nonsense.

They were doing this and shutting it down long before that even happened.

And even more reprehensible and dishonest, this is how disgusting these people are.

They are now trying to say that Siraj Haqani, the deputy leader of the Taliban, right, whose brother Anasa Khani was sitting next to Zomai Khalilzad, the U.S.

presidential envoy at the talks in Doha, that they have separated from the Taliban and they've gone with ISIS-K.

You know why they're saying that, Glenn?

You know why they're making up that absolute lie?

Because they know they've been called out.

And I was one of the people that called them out.

So was Tom Jocelyn at the Long War Journal and a bunch of others.

Because the Haqqani Network is a foreign terrorist organization designated by the U.S.

government in 2012.

And it is illegal under U.S.

law to negotiate or support terrorists to provide any kind of support for them in any way whatsoever.

And now that it's been called out, look, lo and behold, how convenient how convenient that suddenly the deputy leader of the taliban has split away i don't believe it for one single second in fact i'll put my life on it that that is an abject lie even if they say it themselves that's a deal that they struck when the head of the cia went and met with mullah baradair the man that they chose to lead the islamic emirates and by the way guess who they chose is their intel chief the guy who's going to be in charge of intelligence for the taliban is his strongest ally is who?

The IRGC, the Iranian revolutionary gods.

He ran training camps for the Taliban inside Iran, and he and the new head of IRGC are

bonded at the hip.

And one of the chief political advisors of the Taliban in Kabul right now, advising Molabarudair, is the other person in the Taliban who is close to IRGC.

They're two top Iranian contacts.

And you watch out, Israel and Taiwan and and all of these countries all over the world, because right now America's enemies are coming for us.

And all these people are going about their daily life in America and they want to talk about this and they want to talk about that and they sort of pretend that Afghanistan is not happening.

You wait because we are now isolated on the world stage.

We are defined by betrayal and drenched in the blood of Afghans and American citizens.

And I've got soldiers, Special Operations soldiers, veterans, some of them 10, 15, 20 tours vomiting last night, vomiting when they realized what they were being asked to participate in because this betrayal is an historic shame that will define the United States until the end of time, for as long as we still have, because it is part of a greater assault on this country that will ensure the end of America, the end of the American idea, and act as a warning to anyone all over the world.

Don't believe in it, don't fight for it, don't stand by it, because they don't even believe in their own idea.

Look at them.

Laura, I can't, first of all, everything you say is true.

I mean, I believe every word that you just said is accurate.

What people don't understand,

and it was shocking, shocking to me how many times in the last 24 hours since being here, I have heard former allies say, we're done.

We're done.

You know,

to have Parliament yesterday discuss the fact that they will not come to our aid or perform any

operations jointly with us until this president and vice president are out.

I've never in my lifetime heard anything like that from England or any of them.

France is still currently out there saving people.

Britain is staying behind after we leave tonight.

We're going to leave.

Why are we leaving before the 31st when our allies are still on the ground?

Glenn,

I've got even bigger questions for you.

Why are we accepting that this is set in stone?

Why are we accepting the most humiliating defeat at the hands of a terrorist organization aided and abetted by our allies?

Did you see what the Pakistani president, Imran Khan, said?

He literally said that the Taliban had been freed, the people of Afghanistan have been freed from the chains of slavery.

That's how he referred to the U.S.

Do you know that since 1951, 70 years straight, the United States has been funding Pakistan?

Literally billions and billions and billions of dollars.

Why are we sending taxpayer dollars to Pakistan to finance the Taliban and Haqqani and al-Qaeda to kill American soldiers on that battlefield?

Why are we not acknowledging our Afghan allies, the former vice president Amoul Asale, who is now acting president, who is fighting right now?

Why are we pushing the Taliban's propaganda narrative that all the Afghans surrendered and that the Afghan army and the special operations, they're worthless.

All that money spent and all those years, and look at them, they're so useless.

How many times have you read that or heard that?

And it is an abject lie.

Yes, there were soldiers that gave up, but there were many units that kept fighting.

And not only that, who would say to their ally, why would you do this?

Why would you take a highly specialized special operations force trained by the best operators we have that relies on mobility and in one moment strip it of all of its mobility, the U.S.

air support.

And at the same moment take all of the maintenance contractors that have kept the Afghan Air Force in the skies and strip those away.

And then at exactly the same moment take away all of your auxiliary support that goes with that.

Your soldiers, your bases, your logistics, your supply lines.

Why would you do that?

And show me the army on earth that could possibly have all that stripped away from it in one moment.

And I'm not saying they didn't have warning and they didn't know.

That's not the same thing as having a replacement structure already there that's functioning and working.

And also what people shouldn't be deceived by and shouldn't fall for is that anyone who's saying what I'm saying right now isn't saying that we have to stay in Afghanistan forever or that the U.S.

can't withdraw.

We could still leave a special operations counterterrorism component.

We could still be doing air support.

We could obliterate the Taliban.

Literally obliterate the Taliban leadership.

Their forces are all out in the open.

You know why?

Because they're literally standing there laughing at you, dancing on America's grave.

That's what they're doing.

They don't fear you.

And you know what?

When the Taliban doesn't fear you, and Al-Qaeda doesn't fear you, and Hezbollah doesn't fear you, and Hamas doesn't fear you, the Iranians don't fear you, and neither do any of our other adversaries.

Neither does Pakistan, neither does China, none of them.

So you watch.

Americans have, you know, they have this false sense of security.

They've gone off in the world knowing this invisible shield that we've had around us, that we're all protected by the power and the moral authority of this nation, because the idea of freedom is the idea for which we are all

prepared to fight and live and die for, right?

That's the idea.

Because we believe that this is a noble idea and it's worth fighting for.

As Amul Assale, the acting president, said to me in an interview just before all of this happened, he actually said to me, called me one day and he was worried, because we're friends, and I've known him for many years.

And he said, Laura, what is happening there?

He said, you know, if the light goes out in America, it goes out everywhere.

Then the whole world is plunged into darkness.

It cannot go out in America.

And you know, that is what we're looking at, Glenn.

The light has gone out in America.

It's not gone out in our hearts and souls as Americans, you know, and as people who believe in this.

But if we don't stop what's happening now, then we are dying with it.

Because

now it's fake.

Laura, I can't thank you enough.

I have to run for a network break.

I'd like to talk to you some more on this.

Thank you for all of your hard work.

We just got in that there is a large explosion at Abbey Gate at the Kabul airport.

This is something that we have been warned about for the last 24 hours.

We'll bring you more details as they become available to us back in just a minute.

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This is the Glen Beck program live from the Middle East.

I'm going to take you directly to Kabul, the airport now,

where our good friend and the founder of Mighty Oaks is on the ground.

Hello, Chad.

How are you?

Good, Glenn.

How are you?

Good.

You're still at the airport in Kabul?

Actually,

I'm out.

I'm in the same neighborhood.

You are out.

So we have two of those.

Okay, good.

I've been worried about two of our guys.

We still have two of our guys there.

And

what about the airplane?

What about the airplane that was full of people?

I don't want to tell that story.

That's your story to tell if you're ready to tell that.

I'm just worried about those people.

Yeah,

man, I wish I could.

It wasn't the airplane.

It was buses.

And

I wish I could say it right now, but we have to get our guys off the ground first.

That's fine.

That's fine.

That's fine.

So

tell us what you know, Chad.

Tell us what the situation is like.

You were there earlier,

I know.

Yeah,

we have

us together with the coalition we have with what you guys are doing at Nazarene Fund.

We got 5,200 people off the ground.

And that's, you know, so it's one of these stories that...

you know, it's tough to reconcile because you have this one side of you that's so happy and joyful.

I just got back from the humanitarian center where we

have been bringing people in the country that we're in.

And I got to see these people that I'm looking around.

And it just overwhelmed me.

And I got just so emotional because we've been working

so hard all week.

I've only got six hours of sleep in the last five days.

And we've been working so hard to walk in to see these people

and know that they have a chance, they have hope,

and see these little kids.

And I got to see my interpreter that I got out and his family.

And his kids ran up to me and hugged me.

And I was just so emotional and overwhelmed.

So there's this sense of joy, but then there's also this sense of what we, you know, what we've seen in Kabul, where you have people left, American citizens left, people were still in sewage ditches trying to climb their way over Constantino wire, throwing their kids.

I didn't see it, but my buddy, one of my buddies, Joe, saw three babies dead in the Constantino wire where moms tried to throw their babies over the Constantinople wire.

or moms or dads tried to throw their babies over the Constantinople wire just hoping, you know, rather give away their baby than have it be under the Taliban.

And the babies got tangled up in the Constitutional wire and were dead in there.

And,

you know, and now we're hearing reports of

dads shooting their daughters, not because they want to kill their daughters, because they don't want their daughters to endure the suffering of the Taliban.

And it's just a horrific situation, and my heart just breaks.

And all these people are just still, they're up there.

And we did it.

Our government, you know, I've never,

as a proud American, as someone, I'm the most patriotic guy I think I know.

And to ever feel embarrassed and ashamed of our country, I sat in front of

this morning, I sat in a conference room, and I had four generals from the foreign military, amazing nation that had helped these people, 18 lawyers, their minister of interior, the minister of foreign affairs, and I just thanked them for helping us, but I also had to apologize for our country and putting them in a situation that has to help.

And now, our country, most importantly, what I think all your listeners need to hear is we still are not doing the right thing.

The White House is still stopping people from doing the right thing.

Our State Department is paralyzed.

They will not move these people.

And they put it on the entire rest of the world, is participating in this humanitarian crisis

on a biblical scale.

But the one government that caused this problem is not participating and helping.

And it's an embarrassment to our country.

And

we, the people, need to hold our White House accountable for this.

And this is not a political statement about Trump versus Biden and all that stuff that everybody's been caught up in the last years.

This is about what's morally right.

As human beings,

the world can't function this way, not when the strongest, greatest nation in the world behaves this way and treats people this way.

I had a phone call with

an ambassador of a country last night, and I had exactly the same

conversation.

And I was amazed at how this country,

A, dismissed America now,

just as they're just you know,

we don't trust anymore.

But also, who would not dwell on it, said, but that's that's a different story.

This is about saving people.

And

here's this great country that wasn't playing politics at all, didn't care, doesn't want any of the credit.

And they are moving

heaven and earth.

And because of our State Department, their hands were tied.

Yeah.

We're talking about the same country, and it's like, I'm looking at these people.

I'm looking at their military.

I'm looking at their government, the volunteers, the workers.

They're feeding these families.

I went in the humanitarian center today.

There's doctors and toys for the kids, and it's amazing.

And I'm like, you people are incredible.

Like, they were so amazing to be treating these refugees this way.

They feel like they're in a home right now.

These people feel like this is not a tent city.

It's beyond unbelievable what these people are doing.

And our government won't do anything.

It won't lift a finger to help.

I think I'm at the place that

I think I'm at the place that you are without being able to see the humanitarian side of it because I'm kind of boxed in and not allowed to go to some of the places that you are.

And

I can't tell you

when you're only seeing the bad side.

I feel

such empathy for our soldiers

because

this must be the way they feel.

Because there's like it's just the walls close in on you and you're like, what is happening?

Well, I mean, how these young

obviously you know my Yokes Foundation, you know me.

Like, there's nothing more a love and support.

I've committed my life to America's military warriors.

And so I love our troops.

But our military is not doing the job of the military right now.

The State Department took over the NEO and the NEO, the non-combatant evacuation operation, which is a DOD function.

The White House gave it to the State Department.

And our State Department is using our military like embassy security.

They treated that airport, they have no business.

They don't know what a NEO is.

They don't know how to run a NEO.

That's not the State Department's job.

The White House gave it to them because they thought our military was too emotionally attached to

Afghanistan after 20 years.

And the State Department treated the airport like an embassy.

They treated it like an embassy.

So,

Chad, help me out with this.

I believe that our soldiers, the boots on the ground, the people, you know, of the 82nd Airborne, et cetera, they're good, solid people, and they know what's right.

But

it appears as though

the brass

comes from a different place, cut more from like the White House.

Am I reading this wrong?

You're reading it 100%.

Man, I wish I could tell you that story right now.

And when I can, I want to expose this story because it's horrific.

I will tell you when

you tell the story and we'll get our teeth into it and

I will be right with you.

I will not let go until those people pay.

They have to pay.

I mean, from

Joint Chief Millet on down,

they

have made our U.S.

military,

have used our United States military to do a job in a way that's costing American lives and the lives of our allies.

And I couldn't imagine

being in the position of our military service members right now

and being forced to do things that are immoral, inhumane,

and against who America is.

They're against everything they raised their hand and made an oath to do.

And they're being forced to do that by the leaders in Washington, D.C., sitting back and

making decisions based on whatever the White House is saying, but not what's right.

And what you mean by America is always great.

America does what's, at the end of the day, America

does what's right.

That's right.

And

how many Americans do you think are going to be left behind?

I got word.

I don't know if this is true now.

I don't know what's true and what's not.

I got word that the embassy staff, all the foreign embassy staff, left behind.

How many Americans do you suppose are left behind?

Well, you know, we've continued to hear the number 10,000, but I've also heard that a number could be twice that many

because

the State Department does not require you to register.

I think the one thing

White House Press Secretary Saki said was that that's been right is that

U.S.

people don't have to register and don't have to register when you leave.

And it's the freedom we have.

And so

that's not a very well-tracked database that the State Department has.

So the State Department really didn't have any idea.

But between 10 and 20,000 were going to be left there.

And look, the military, this is over.

The military is leaving.

I wouldn't be surprised to wake up tomorrow morning.

And,

well, different, you know, I don't know, U.S.

listeners, different time zone.

But here, you know, it's about to ignite.

I wouldn't be surprised to wake up tomorrow morning and they're gone.

Well, the Pentagon just said that they aren't going anywhere until the 31st, but that's different than what we hear on the ground here.

We hear that things are advancing rapidly and they're pulling the troops out right now.

Again, I don't know what is true and what is not

unless we hear from the people who are actually on the ground and they've seen it.

It appears they're leaving.

Now, if they stay to 31st just to say they did,

They may do that.

They may leave a contingency just to say they did and pull out.

But right now, there's really no no relevance of them even being there because we are not rescuing people anymore.

You know, we, as the NGO, doing this, shut down.

The military is not doing it anymore.

The gates are sealed.

As far as rescue,

it's over.

I mean,

we've essentially handed over our citizens to the Taliban.

Chad,

what I believe to be the most horrific hostage situation in the history of the United States.

You had a plane that was getting ready to take off and it

it was canceled because we flew a plane in and that hit a cap

here

where

we're at.

Did that has that are those people safe?

Those women and children?

There was women and children on

that were going to pick up that flight.

Those are safe.

Yes.

Thank God.

And, you know,

look,

you and i talked about this everyone was just trying to do the right thing at a thousand miles an hour no i know and uh no i know and uh it's a good thing so yeah they have just been they've just

i i know it's just been on our on our mind uh and on our heart that these people were uh possibly trapped as things get better thank god they're out um yeah yeah that was that was a success story so i don't know where they are but i know i know those people didn't get put back out defense.

Okay.

Let us know, Chad,

when we can

help expose what's going on

because

I know the story that you have to tell,

and it will horrify Americans.

It will truly, truly horrify Americans.

So

thanks for everything that you're doing.

I'm watching my phone.

I'm watching my phone for the wheels to go up in that plane.

And as soon as I do, I'll text you.

Okay, thank you.

Chad Robicho,

I can't thank him enough.

You should pray for him and the Mighty Oaks Foundation.

It is an amazing group of people who are doing incredible things here on the ground.

Thank you so much, Chad.

Back in a minute.

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I'm going to finish this story in a minute, but I will tell you that I, in between breaks, I went out into the hallway, and we have been working on something

for the last 24 hours because the receiving airports are full,

and our State Department is blocking these people from leaving.

And through divine providence, which I will tell you in a little while,

we happen to be traveling with somebody who had an answer.

And he has been working for 24 hours, and that answer is about to come through.

But

we were talking about the cost of

this

and

it's going to cost about

it's going to cost about two million dollars for a thousand people

and

and everybody looked at me and I said

gosh I can't believe we're negotiating for people

but

gee I think I think two million dollars is probably a good price

for 1,000 people, but

it is bizarre what is going on right now.

And our country is on the wrong side.

For the first time in my life,

I am ashamed, truly ashamed, morally ashamed of our country.

Senator Tom Cotton joins us now, and I'm guessing he feels somewhat the same way about what is happening.

Senator, how are you, sir?

Thanks for joining us.

Gwen, it's good to be back on with you, but under very difficult circumstances, of course.

What's happened in Afghanistan over the last couple of weeks is sad.

It's tragic.

It is shameful, disgraceful, humiliating, embarrassing.

And maybe worst of all, Glenn, it wasn't predictable.

It was predicted.

Many observed that if President Biden executed his decision withdrawal in the middle of the fighting season by withdrawing the critical enabling support that the Taliban had, or I'm sorry, that the Afghan Army had,

for instance, with Western contractors to keep their Air Force flying.

We'd be pulling the rug out from underneath them.

And you started to see some reports come out in the media that say that it was predicted directly to Joe Biden, no matter what he's been saying, the American people, that this would be the fate that we face right now.

Senator,

you know, there are bad decisions,

but

this is a pattern here now.

It's not just a pattern because of what he has done before.

I mean a pattern here.

There is a doubling down of everything.

There is a refusal to see what is going on, which makes me wonder if A, the president is mentally competent, and that's being kind,

or there is something else at play here because there's not an ally that is with us.

There is not a sane individual, left, right, center.

It doesn't matter.

Politics all aside,

there's blood all over our hands on this.

And

I can't figure out why.

Why is this happening?

Why is he doing this?

So, Glenn, I mean, the pattern, I would say, goes back now 50 years.

Remember, Bob Gates famously said of Joe Biden when they both served in the Obama administration that he's been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security decision of his lifetime.

It was 40 years when Secretary Gates wrote that.

It's 50 years now.

The difference is for most of those 50 years, it didn't matter too much because he was a senator and then a vice president.

He wasn't in charge,

but he is in charge now.

And you see in catastrophic relief the consequences of his terrible judgment.

Now,

I think his attitude over the last two weeks does also reflect something of Joe Biden's character.

Kind of like

anytime he's challenged, he defaults to this wise guy attitude of mocking the media.

Now, I understand that he's not used to being challenged by the media,

but they finally have started to press him on his numerous falsehoods and press those people around him.

And you can tell that he gets under his skin and he gets

spiteful and prideful and bitter.

And he just digs in his heels even more, even though the circumstances on the ground are obviously

deteriorating.

And they have been for some time.

Well, that's what I can't figure out.

Is anyone telling him the truth of what's going on?

Is the Pentagon for the...

Is there anyone

that is standing up

in his council that is saying, Mr.

President, A,

I understand you already made the decision, but now the entire world is not standing with us and people are going to die.

There are Americans that you are leaving behind.

Is anyone saying that to him?

Yeah,

all of his speeches on the question have been dangerously detached from reality now for a couple of weeks.

Just as frankly, that speech in early July was when he said there'd be no Saigon moment.

We wouldn't have a collapse of the government.

I think it's pretty clear, based on the news report, that both the Department of Defense and our intelligence agencies were sounding those alarms to President Biden.

But another thing about which I want to remind your listeners that Bob Gates said is that Joe Biden has a very mistrustful relationship with senior military leaders.

You know, even Barack Obama has said in his own memoirs that Joe Biden, as vice president, constantly cautioned

then President Obama about listening to the senior military leaders at the Pentagon about how they were going to try to box him in, how they'd try to direct policy, not implement his policy.

And I think you see the consequences of that.

of President Biden's attitude now, is that despite the warnings from senior leaders, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, he plowed straight ahead.

So I think, Glenn, the real question then becomes, are those

closest to him in the White House, in his inner circle, speaking the truth to him?

Are they conveying the genuine news?

And I have questions that they are based on those speeches he's given.

And also, Glenn, I have to say, I think some of them view this as just kind of a bad

news day,

like in a campaign.

You send Joe Biden out to a radio interview in the campaign last year and he makes a gap, and you've got a couple days of bad headlines.

But pretty soon things move on.

And they're treating this fiasco in Afghanistan like it's just a bad headline from a campaign, and they want to just turn the page and get back to their reckless $3.5 trillion budget.

But it's not just a bad headline whenever you've got hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans trapped behind enemy lines.

It's reality.

And those Americans are going to be stuck there after Tuesday, to say nothing of the green card holders that we can't get into the country and those Afghans who served alongside us and who have been vetted and approved for a special immigrant visa.

They're all going to be stranded.

The word is here, I'm in the Middle East, and the word is here that there are 1,800 that worked for the embassy that have special visas, want to get out, and have no chance of getting out now.

We're leaving them behind.

It's reprehensible.

Yeah, I mean,

it is reprehensible.

It's appalling.

It's also strategically foolish.

Imagine the challenges we'll have for years to come if we ever need local supports in a hotspot around the world.

This is one reason why great and respected countries keep their word,

which Joe Biden now has broken flagrantly

and in a way that will reverberate for years to come.

So is, I mean, is there

no way to

there's no way to stop this?

There's not an appetite in Congress to,

and I don't mean from the Republicans, I mean from the Democrats.

Is there not enough people in Congress and in the Senate to stand up and be a check?

and a balance on this reckless, dangerous behavior?

Well, Glenn, I think what you've seen from the Democrats is a deafening silence.

A very, very few number of Democrats,

oftentimes veterans themselves, maybe serving on the armed services or in the intelligence committee, have suggested that we need to, at a minimum, stay as long as it takes to get out all of the Americans who are in Afghanistan.

But most Democrats just don't want to talk about it at all.

As you saw with Nancy Pelosi, she just wanted to talk about their reckless $3.5 trillion budget.

They're like President Biden's flipblades.

They just want to keep their head down,

grit and bear it like

it's a bad news cycle on a campaign, and then turn the page.

Hopefully, after next Tuesday, it's all going to be out of the headlines and the media will move on.

It's going to be worse.

I don't see

how are we going to move on if we have hundreds or even thousands of Americans who are stranded in Afghanistan when the Taliban at that point controlled not just all the border crossings, but all the airports in the country.

And this is, I mean, the only hope,

and I say this with just callous

disregard to humanity, but the only hope is that there will be no press there to report it.

But so far, the Taliban still has Twitter, still has Facebook,

and I don't think they're going to be shy in showing some of it.

Maybe then they'll violate the Twitter standards.

Well, I mean, that is a big difference between

one of the big differences between where we are now and where the Taliban was 20 years ago before 9-11 is social media didn't really exist back then.

And as we've seen with ISIS over the years, ISIS is very aggressive in their use of social media for propaganda purposes and recruiting and training.

And I suspect that'll be the same.

That'll be true of the Taliban as well.

Quickly, one last question.

I know you've got to run.

Thank you, A, for kicking some butt with the State Department.

But can you give me an update on the State Department?

We last night had an ambassador called in, I think it's Macedonia.

They closed off.

We were looking for places where we can fly people in just to hold them.

And Macedonia was one of them.

And our ambassador or