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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins to announce legal action against Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, who’s trying to stop the governor’s mask mandate ban. Glenn and Pat discuss the Democrats’ absurd new budget plan. While the Left insists Americans need the government’s help to overcome oppression and make it, Glenn takes calls from Americans who fought against the odds to obtain success, however they define it. Cambridge University professor Ross Anderson gives his insight on Apple's latest decision to scan users' phones for inappropriate material. Author Michael Eisenberg joins to discuss his article comparing Big Tech to the biblical story of the Tower of Babel.
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Ken Paxton, our attorney general from the great state of Texas, joins us in just a minute.

What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This

is

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Hello, America, and welcome to the Glenbeck Program.

It is Tuesday.

They are asking, in the same bistros that

the Germans came into in Paris and asked papers, please,

They are now asking papers, please, in Paris.

Going table to table in restaurants, police.

This is insanity that has to stop.

Now, we have a few people that are actually standing up.

We have the great state of Texas here that is standing up against these little mini dictators.

We have Ken Paxton joining us in a few minutes, and he's going to be announcing

something they're going to do today.

And

he'll tell us about that.

Also, a judge here in Texas said the state police could not pick up the legislators.

This is part of the law here.

If you are not showing up intentionally to slow down the process, you can be picked up within the state boundaries by state patrol or the rangers and brought, not arrested, brought to the Capitol, to the chambers, so you will do your job.

That's law here in Texas.

But a judge said, nope, nope, you can't apply that law.

We talked to Ken Paxton about that and more in 60 seconds.

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welcome to the program attorney general from the great state of texas ken paxton

ken how are you sir

Well, you know, days are pretty interesting these days, Glenn.

Today's going to be interesting?

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, they're all interesting.

As you can see just what's going on in Texas,

every day is a new challenge.

Yeah, it is.

Texas is under fire today

because of the hospital situation here.

It is not an emergency, but we have hospitals that are firing people if they don't want to take the vaccine, and we could use a few extra nurses, I understand.

And so run-of-the-mill request from the governor is now being distorted as

that there's a massive problem with the hospital system here in Texas, which is not true.

Well, you're right about that.

And the problems that we are having as it relates to COVID,

oddly enough, as you watch the border being pushed by thousands and thousands of people, potentially with COVID,

I think we lost him.

In the country, given the fact that the Biden administration

Yeah, it is.

Texas is overrun at the border.

And I mean, small, little teeny towns are having to put COVID tents up.

These people are just dumped into their city by the federal government, and

they're just putting up little tents because they don't know what else to do.

It's absolutely out of control.

It's not just, you know, what's amazing is that they are busing people around the country and just dropping them off.

I know for a fact I was talking to some police officers in Dallas, and they said that these buses showed up in Dallas and just dumped a couple hundred people out of buses, and they just wandered around the streets, and that was it.

They were let go.

That's how it's being done.

Okay, there's a couple of things.

First of all, I had a county commissioner on last week,

and he was talking about a

commissioner's court and a judge in a commissioner's court.

It's weird when you hear court court everywhere else but Texas, you think of an actual court, but that's not what this is, right?

That's correct.

This is like a city council for a county.

So it's not, there are a few counties in Texas that don't have enough courts, so they act as a judge, but for the most part, in these large counties, a county commissioner's court or a county judge is not really a

judicial position.

It's more of a management or a city council type position.

Okay.

And this quote-unquote judge made a a ruling against a commissioner and forced him to leave, even though he was vaccinated because he wasn't wearing a mask.

That is exactly what happened.

And of course, we have an executive order from the governor who's acting under his power called the Disaster Relief Act where he said, hey, you can't require a mask.

And that is completely in violation of state law, what that commissioner did.

So what are you doing about it today?

So, in the next, I think, hour or so, we're going to file to intervene in his case because he's already got litigation going, and we're going to try to stop what we would consider illegal by this county judge.

And I doubt he's going to take it well.

He has been on Twitter just saying, you know, you got to mask up.

We got to get ahead of this.

We have to stop all this madness, yada, yada.

But

the county commissioner he kicked out, he was already vaccinated.

So, So

here's the deal, Glenn.

You know, these guys are supposed to act under law, and he doesn't like the current law.

He needs to lobby the legislature to change it, not decide for himself, hey, I run this county.

I do what I want.

I don't follow anybody's other laws because I'm the county judge.

That's effectively what this guy is doing.

And look, if he's right, he's right.

He can go and lobby and try to get the changes.

But he can't unilaterally just make up his own law.

And that's sort of the attitude of a lot of

these elected officials these days.

They can do whatever they want.

Do you expect this to go through here, or is he going to fold?

No, I think he likes the media coverage.

He's not going to win.

I'm pretty sure he knows he's not going to win.

If the law matters, he has no chance.

We've won these battles before.

This is deja vu all over again for us.

So

we're very confident we're going to win.

I think he's doing it for media coverage.

But you just said, you know, if the law matters.

I have to tell you, and I can't speak for Texas because Texas is, you know, there's a few states that are bucking this system.

But it doesn't seem like the law matters anymore.

To many Americans, the law doesn't matter anymore.

Well, I think Obama set this up, you know, when he was president.

He ignored federal law.

didn't work through Congress, made up his own executive orders, had agencies make up the law, and just thumbed his nose at laws.

And we had to sue him.

We were very successful doing that.

But I think he set sort of the mindset for a lot of Democrat, particularly Democratic elected officials.

I don't have to follow a lot either.

If President Obama doesn't do it,

I might adopt the same approach.

So that's kind of the approach that you're seeing by mayors, by county judges, by elected officials all over the country who just say, why should I have to follow?

It comes to me.

What does it cost me?

They have no personal risk.

Well, but

you have more than that now.

Firing somebody for their health conditions against the law.

It's not being enforced.

Questioning somebody about their medical information is against the law, not being enforced.

The CDC eviction moratorium, unconstitutional.

Everybody admits that,

but nobody's going to stop it.

Using any method to coerce someone into taking an experimental drug against the Nuremberg Code, but it doesn't matter.

I mean,

when does this

Well, I mean, this is why we're in the fight.

I mean, we can't take on every battle around the country, but we can certainly fight the fights that we have in Texas.

And

today, this is a fight we have.

We have, you know, we've got thousands of fights going on, and these occur almost every day in my office where we have to pick among a number of choices of which battle can we go fight.

And how are we fighting at the border, Ken?

What is the latest on that?

So that's another long battle for us because we've got six lawsuits as it relates to the border.

The governor issued his executive order where he said, hey, if there are people being transported that are illegal, they need to be sent back to the border, which is, in my mind, perfectly normal.

And you'd expect a governor to try to protect his state from the spread of COVID from the border and the crime that's associated with that.

And yet, we were sued by the federal government for trying to protect our state in a way that the federal government

accused.

Wait, you're breaking up.

You said you've been accused of

breaking the law, I guess, the federal law?

Yeah,

so there's this idea under this U.S.

Supreme Court case, U.S.

v.

Arizona, that because the federal government

has statutes providing them authority over immigration, that the state still can't protect themselves that the federal government doesn't.

I just don't think that's the correct understanding of what the law is.

How can it possibly be that a state has to sit by while the federal federal government ignores the law and allows great harm to the citizens of that state?

I can't believe that the governor has to sit by and let that happen.

This is the old Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Right.

It's just not, that cannot be the right interpretation of the law or the Constitution.

And we're fighting that.

Oh, absolutely.

We'll fight that to probably the U.S.

Supreme Court.

Good.

Good.

Ken, thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

God bless.

Absolutely.

You bet.

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Hello, Pat.

Welcome to Pell.

Brave Led.

Been filling in for Stu, who returns, I think, tomorrow, doesn't he?

I believe he does, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Well,

all good things have to come to an end.

Yeah, I guess so.

I know, I know.

I want to.

I want to rephrase something in your mind.

I want you to start thinking, you know, we've all said, what does this bill have to do with infrastructure, right?

It's not an infrastructure bill.

Yes, it is.

This occurred to me yesterday.

It is an infrastructure bill.

And they're telling us they are building infrastructure.

When you see this bill and you see all these unrelated things, Donald Trump said this the other day.

It is the beginning of the Green New Deal.

It is, and so much more.

It is the infrastructure of state control.

In this bill, it cannot pass.

Every Republican needs to vote against this infrastructure bill.

It has too many things in it that

are

pieces of an engine.

Remember when we told you, gosh, this is back in 2008, they are building something piece by piece, and you don't notice it.

because it's coming in the lunchbox and it's coming in a pocket and it's coming you know uh in bits and pieces and you just look at all these pieces and you're like i don't even know what those are for.

Well, they do.

And once they get all of the pieces, then they start to assemble.

This is

an infrastructure bill that will give the pieces that are needed to build a state that you don't want to be a part of.

Now, this is going on, and we've told you about the Great Reset, and we've told you about some of the people that are

involved in the Great Reset.

And it's just not a coincidence.

If you look at one of the players that is now in our Treasury Department,

they are the economic advisors of the Treasury, of the President, and the Vice President Office.

They are the ones telling us which way to go, I guess.

It is BlackRock.

BlackRock makes

what's the name of that investment bank in

New York that we've always said was the evil one, Dick Cheney, and

you know what I mean?

Yes.

Okay, so anyway,

it makes them look like poppers.

Goldman Sachs.

Goldman Sachs.

It really makes them look like poppers.

BlackRock is massive.

And let me give you just a quick look.

They started in 2000, or no, sorry, in 1988.

In 1988, it was founded.

By 1999, it had $1.65 billion

to invest, $165 billion to invest.

In 2007,

it had grown a bit.

It's $1.2 trillion to invest.

Last year,

last year, it was $7.3

trillion to invest.

This year, it is $9.5 trillion a year.

Well, BlackRock just announced in the Wall Street Journal that they've hit a new milestone.

They've just won

approval from Chinese regulators to begin operations as a wholly owned mutual fund business in China.

No one has this.

Hunter Biden was the first one to get anything like this with the Chinese.

So now they can start start selling funds to individual investors in China before the end of the year.

Okay.

These are the people that are behind the Green New Deal.

These are the people that are behind

the Great Reset.

These are the people at $9.5 trillion

in investment.

Between their investments and the investments that they are related to,

they manage about $30 trillion.

$30 trillion.

So you know, all the money on earth today is $50 trillion.

So they have their fingers in $30 trillion.

These are the people that are

wagging the dog.

These are the ones that have the real power and that are setting the course for us.

It is a very, very dangerous precedent to send

and to set.

We are also at the same time, as I said to Ken Paxton just a minute ago, at the same time, we are not a nation of laws anymore.

The laws are not being followed.

When does this stop?

The moment we decide that it stops.

the moment that we stand up, the people in Paris right now, do you have the video of Paris?

Here they are in Paris.

The police

outside

asking for papers.

Digital papers, but papers nonetheless.

Show me your ID.

Show me your ID.

This is not a good precedent to set.

And it's shocking to me that the people of Paris, of all people, aren't immediately ruffled by someone say, papers, please.

But I guess, you know, we all have to do our part.

Yeah, without losing our liberties.

Yes.

We all have to do our part without losing our liberties.

In New York, some restaurants are saying, I'm not going to ask people for their papers.

Those restaurants are going to be shut down.

They're being asked now, you have to turn away people.

Now, these are struggling restaurants.

You have to turn people away if they're not vaccinated, or you have to have a completely walled-in, glassed in section for the unvaccinated.

Now, how are they going to afford that?

Yeah, nobody's going to do that.

Nobody's going to do that.

And so, you know, now I don't know anybody would have seen this coming.

But now in New York, there's a new black market for

vaccine passports.

They are now starting to develop a black market for fake vaccine passports for New York City.

Gee.

I didn't see that coming at all.

What's up with that?

Montana did an interesting thing.

At the Daily Gazette, they said,

here's what they look like.

Here's what the official passports look like so that you can obey the law.

Oh, they're just

clandestinely showing people that, okay, here's how you fake it.

And that's what's, I think there's going to be a huge black market.

for the

benefits.

Then that will have to be because there's a black market for it.

Then we'll go to high tech and we'll say to high-tech, we need something that nobody can forge.

And if they do, you catch them with tech.

We just rope in high-tech to be new police officers.

What if we had people implant something in their forehead or maybe their wrist, and then you just scanned it?

And that'd give you all the information right there.

Wow, that's a really good idea.

Yeah.

Did you know that American Express just came out with something for your wrist that you could scan?

Did they?

Yeah.

I think Prada makes it.

It's very nice.

Wow.

But you can get a little.

It's so convenient.

It is.

Right?

We'd know where everybody is.

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I want to play something that I heard from Fauci on Sunday

about freedom and see if this feels right to you.

Listen.

Well, I'm very concerned, Chuck, that we're going to see another surge related to that rally.

I mean, to me,

it's understandable that people want to do the kinds of things they want to do.

They want their freedom to do that.

But there comes a time when you're dealing with a public health crisis that could involve you, your family, and everyone else, that something supersedes that need to do exactly what you want to do.

I mean, you're going to ultimately be able to do that in the future, future, but let's get this paint.

See, this is the thing.

I bought this when it was 15 days to flatten the curve.

I don't buy this now.

You'll eventually, eventually, in the future, be able to, you are violating so many God-given rights in the last year, year and a half, I can't even begin to count them.

And I'm sorry, there comes a point when common sense starts to play a role, when we as individuals have to make the choice.

And most people don't want to make the choice.

They don't want to take responsibility for their own actions because they think, I think,

they feel like maybe

there's something holding them back, or maybe they're going to fail, or maybe they're not good enough, or it's not smart enough, or whatever.

And so they never actually, really truly apply freedom.

I want to play something from

I want to play something from a guy that was on my Friday night exclusive on Blaze TV, and I was talking to him

about,

I think, Disney, and we were having a great conversation, and he throws this in in the middle.

I want you to listen.

I had a breakthrough moment like that as well on the show.

My father was homeless,

crack addict,

and

he pulled down our family for years.

And it was something that I had to overcome.

And I explained it through the show.

And I was something that I kind of hid for many, many years.

When you're around kind of successful people, you tend to think that they're going to judge you on things.

And I kept that quiet for quite some time.

I was, I don't know if it was embarrassment or what it was, but I came to a point to where I said, you know what?

I'm going to talk about this.

I'm going to release this for myself.

And I did.

And oh, it it was like, it's the most American thing you can do.

You know, I have a friend who works here.

He's Scottish.

And

the people over in Great Britain, they drop the C word all the time.

Like it's no big deal.

Over here, you don't use the C word.

Over there, it means something entirely different.

So I'm used to just, you know, hearing things things from, from, from, from him.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

keep that one down.

Keep that to yourself.

And at one point, I said to him, you're just a bastard.

And he went, excuse me?

That's offensive over there in ways we don't mean it here.

What we mean is

you're just a jerk.

You know,

you're a pain in my ass.

Over there,

it actually means you are not born legitimately.

And in Europe, that still matters.

That still matters.

You have to be born of the right family in the right place, the right time with the right connections.

That's what made us different.

It's the most American thing to be able to say, I had nothing.

I came from parents that gave me nothing.

I came from a bad household.

I came, I had no connections.

I have, you know, look at how they're saying now.

If you're a self-educated man, you can't listen to them.

They're not educated.

Excuse me.

I may not have a fancy degree from a fancy school that you went to,

but come on, let's bring it on.

Let's see who, let's see who really is the imbecile.

I can hold my own.

I may not have your fancy education, but I don't care.

I don't care.

This used to be a badge of honor.

My grandfather,

my grandfather had a third grade education.

He was embarrassed, and I never knew it my entire life until recently.

like maybe 15 years ago.

My grandfather couldn't read.

He couldn't read.

But he was a shop steward

at Boeing.

He was a

machinist that would make the most elaborate parts.

If there was something that was really hard to make, that they were making at the very beginning, just trying something,

he was the guy they called on.

He couldn't read.

They didn't even know he couldn't read.

Why are we wearing these things and letting people tell us

that we can't make it?

I am so sick and tired of the lies that someone is keeping you down, that you can't make it, that you need somebody in Washington, D.C.

To clear the path for you.

That's a lie and you need to know it.

Every single one of us have setbacks.

Some people's setbacks are being cursed with money.

Being cursed with too much as kids.

Believe it or not.

Oh, I'd like to have that as a problem.

I wouldn't.

We all have trouble.

But what is it that has happened to you to convince you that you'll never make it?

For the next few days, I want to, every day,

talk to people on the phone, just you, average people,

just like you,

who have made it against even the most unspeakable odds.

Now, making it does not mean you're rich,

but you consider yourself a success because

you're living a life you want to live.

You're on the path that you want to be.

We're the only species.

There's nothing else in creation.

That gets to self-determine where you're going.

Nothing else, no animals, nothing in space, nothing, nothing that we know of is self-determining.

Except you.

Wow, what a special gift.

And someone wants to take that away from you?

And we're letting them take that away from us?

Excuse me.

That is the most precious gift.

That is so rare.

You're taking my gold, my silver.

Here, have it.

Don't you dare touch my right to determine where I'm going to go in life.

Don't you dare put a lid on me.

I want to talk to people who have had problems today.

You grew up in a bad family.

This guy,

the guy I just played, he is the host of Red-Pilled America.

He is wildly successful now.

My dad was a crack addict, and I never wanted to admit it, and it was holding me back.

Admit it, man.

Where it is a badge of honor.

I beat that in every other country on earth.

People would say, oh, his family, they were crack addicts.

You can't trust him.

Not here.

Not here.

At least not yet.

But we are moving to that place to where if you don't have a life passport, if you're not in with the right people,

you're doomed.

If you don't have the right opinion, you don't have the right outlook, you aren't saving the planet in exactly all of the ways somebody else has determined for you,

then you can't make it.

Holy cow, we better not lose this.

It is the only thing that we have as humans that is unique.

My number is 888-727-BECK.

I've left the entire hour open for next hour.

I want to hear from you if you are somebody that has beaten the odds.

Today I want to focus on people that have had

nothing.

You've come from nothing.

Maybe you were, I have a good friend who is one of the most decent guys I know and somebody who's a role model for my son.

This guy,

he was

abandoned by his drug-addled mom and dad.

Crack addicts.

Abandoned.

Went into foster home after foster home, was beaten, was left in closets for a while to be punished.

Horrible.

Ran away at 13.

The foster parents didn't report that he had run away because they wanted the money.

That's the only reason why they were taking foster kids.

They wanted the money.

He ran away.

He lived in a little

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He couldn't afford anything.

He and his sister, they were working.

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So started looking for people that made it, started looking at people who he's like, that's a good guy.

How did he get there?

What did he do?

He's now successful.

I think he's about to start his own business.

He's happy, and he's a role model.

Don't come whining to me that you can't make it.

Who has that life story?

America needs to hear your life story today.

Tell me, where did you come from?

Where are you?

America is either what we think it is or it's not.

We'll know when we hear people testify.

Remember, the word testify has test in it.

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All right, some people just want to watch the world burn.

The rest of us just really want a good night's sleep, really.

I mean,

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When I was a kid growing up in the Pacific Northwest, I remember these absolute freaks that wanted to be part of Cascadia.

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And they wanted to be free from all of this oppression.

and

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That spirit is alive and well, apparently still, especially in Portland, Oregon,

and the state of Washington or state of Oregon has gone insane.

Yeah, Oregon's governor just signed a new law allowing students to graduate without proving they can read, write, or do math.

Now, you might think, well,

why would they do that?

What's the point of school then?

Well, they expect that this will benefit Oregon's black, Latino, Latino, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, tribal, and students of color.

What?

Are you saying that all of these groups can't read, write, or do math, or they can't be expected to learn?

You talk about the soft

racism of low expectations.

Oh, no, this is

just flat-out, hardcore racism.

This is

hardcore.

This is akin to slave owners.

Yeah.

This is what slave owners did.

I mean, this is what the Taliban does to girls.

What do you make sure that they can't do?

You never send them to school because you don't want girls reading or writing.

Because once they can read and write, they understand that they have power, that they cannot easily be manipulated.

This is absolutely a slave owner's handbook, what's happening in Oregon.

And anyone in a minority community that doesn't stand up against this,

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What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

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This week, I want to spend an hour with you on the phone every day, and I just want to hear the stories of success.

And I don't mean that you're, you know, rich and famous and all that.

That's not success.

I'm so tired of the lies that something or someone or a statue is oppressing you and is keeping you down and you just can't make it.

I'm sick of the lies of telling our children that you can't make it without certain people in Washington, D.C.

to clear the path.

That is against everything the United States of America, our Constitution, and our Declaration of Independence state.

And if that is true, that you need somebody in Washington to be able to make things right for you, then we are no longer America.

And I'm sick and tired of hearing all of the people and all of the stories about how they're just so oppressed.

Could we just hear some stories this week from you, average citizens,

the success stories of this nation?

People who, today, I want to focus on people who have had a lousy childhood, one way or another.

Doesn't mean your folks beat you.

I mean, it could be they were crack addicts.

Could be that they beat you, abandoned you, whatever.

But it could be I just had, I had nothing going in.

I had nothing going in.

And now I'm pursuing my dreams.

I want to hear the success stories of America from you.

888-727-BECK is the phone number.

We begin with your phone call in 60 seconds.

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All right.

Let's begin our journey today with Jim.

Hello, Jim.

You're on the Glenn Beck program.

Hi, Glenn.

I

started out with a pretty crappy childhood.

My parents got divorced when I was dying.

I was passed around from different parts of my family.

I experienced

physical abuse, sexual abuse.

Managed to survive all of that.

Graduated high school, joined the Army,

was in for three years, ended up with three field grade Article 15s and two bronze stars.

Can you imagine?

Holy cow.

Yeah, set a post record for the PT record at Fort Belvoir.

And

fast forward to now,

I've been married to my, I'm now married to my second wife

close to 15 years.

We just started our own business about three weeks ago training horses, and I am kind of living my dream.

Wow.

Where are you living now?

What part of the country?

I live in

Cataract, Wisconsin.

And training horses in Wisconsin.

Yes.

You wouldn't believe how many people love to ride horses out here.

It's something amazing.

Well, Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive.

He loved horses.

He loved horses.

Well, yeah.

Well, George Bush was too.

Ronald Reagan was a big horse.

Oh, I know.

I know, I know.

Thank you so much for sharing that.

Congratulations on making it through.

Was there any time that you thought I'm never going to amount to anything?

You know what?

I lived a life full of people telling me that, and I never, ever believed it.

Why?

God puts us all here for a reason, and I think that once you

I think that you're always going to live to fulfill that reason.

Good for you.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate the phone call.

I think we're going to find that that is the key.

You know,

if you don't have faith in God,

then how do you have faith that you're here for any purpose?

How do you have faith that

you are a unique individual?

You're not just one of the masses.

See, that is the secret of America.

It separates everything we're going through right now is we have to do this for the planet.

We have to do this for society.

We have to do this for the world.

No, that's not the way we're built.

I mean, in our worst state, we're very tribal.

When we go into survival, we become tribal.

And we just pick sides and then we just fight as tribes.

That's the primitive man.

The man that has progressed, the man that is truly

a man, is free as an individual and then chooses to help and to build.

But they don't have to

because we're not in tribes anymore.

And we know

we're individuals and individuals matter.

Let me go to

let me go to line five, Brandon.

Hello, Brandon.

How are you?

Good.

How are you, man?

Good.

Yeah, man.

So I had a pretty crappy childhood.

Mom was a drunk.

Dad was a drunk.

They gave me up.

Luckily, I was adopted so I could stay inside the family.

Same way as my little brother.

Fast forward to now,

you know, 18 years old, didn't have nothing.

We were almost homeless.

I left town, took a chance,

left town on a Friday and started working as a blue collar worker on a Monday.

Been doing that since 2010 now.

I've made a career out of it, very successful.

My wife also,

similar story,

came from not a whole lot of nothing.

And now she works at a hospital.

We've got a beautiful daughter.

And, you know, the biggest thing that holds us back, honestly,

is government overbeat.

Especially right now, she's on the verge of losing her job because of all the forced vaccines, vaccinization.

So if anybody says that they can't make it because they had a crappy childhood or that they got in trouble, oh, I got in trouble one time and now I can't get a job.

Well, I can call that crap because

I've been to jail.

I've went to prison.

I didn't go to prison.

I went to jail.

I've been arrested.

I I lost my little brother and didn't deal with it well.

And I paid my dues and

I took my lashes for it.

Brandon, and you're happy now.

You rate success

in which way?

How have you reached success?

What does that mean to you?

We are completely independent of everybody.

We don't rely on anybody else.

We've

bounced around starting a small business.

Between the two of us, I mean,

$200,000 a year, we're comfortable.

We don't have any issues.

And the only thing that we need to be successful is to be left alone.

And

people think that it's the exact opposite.

They need a hand up or a hand out.

And

I want people, especially in their late 20s, early 30s, to know that you just got to be left alone.

And you can find your way out.

I promise you guys that y'all can find your way out of whatever darkness that you're in.

Stephen, thank you.

I mean, Brandon, thank you.

Let me go to Stephen now in California.

No, not

line

Tom on line three.

Hello, Tom.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you doing?

It's an honor to be speaking with you this morning, sharing my story.

Thank you.

So, what is

Cain?

Go ahead, Glenn.

No, I'm no, no, no.

I just, where did you start?

Started out in Hungary, Budapest.

I was born there in 1978 when Hungary was still communist.

And basically, since we were at the bottom of the totem pole, we weren't allowed to leave Hungary and come to the United States.

We had to flee to Austria.

And we stayed in Austria for six months

while basically a family out of Georgetown, Washington, D.C.

sponsored us.

That was when Reagan was president, and he was pushing to help families

get a better life, get out of communist countries, and so forth.

And we came to the United States, started out in New York City, Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island.

It was a rough time.

My stepfather was an alcoholic, and my mother and I moved around a lot.

My mother had a lot of emotional problems from her past and childhood.

And eventually I was put in foster care.

I went through three foster homes.

My third foster home was a success.

They were wonderful people from the Maryland area.

My foster father had his own business and

my foster mother was a stay-at-home mom and took us to Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts because they had their own kids too and it was a wonderful life.

But

all that emotional baggage and trauma through the other foster homes and trials and tribulations and so forth led to a lot of other things later on in life.

Tried to join the military and went in the military, wanted a career because of the Boy Scouts and junior ROTC.

And I was in the military and I was going to do special forces and they told me no because I was still a

not a U.S.

citizen and also I was born in a communist country so I couldn't get security clearance to do that.

So I finished up what I did in the military and I became a U.S.

citizen anyway.

I didn't care.

Still love this country.

And I tried to find other ways to serve people.

Tried to join the police department.

I did armed security in Baltimore City.

for a little while.

Trying to work my way into the police department.

And I just found out that really wasn't for me and I tried other avenues and I was married

before I went through divorce and I'm married now.

My wife's a school teacher and I'm a career truck driver and I was blessed enough that when I was in school they started a new program out of Maryland for the apprenticeship program for truck drivers and I was the first apprentice in that program in the state of Maryland.

That's fantastic.

Fantastic.

It's a success story.

It is, especially starting in a communist country, which in some regards, Hungary is now more free than we are.

It is a bizarre turn of events.

Thank you so much for your phone call.

The number is 888-727-BECK.

I want to know.

I want to hear from people who feel that they are successful.

And the reason why I say it that way is because we define success as money, and I don't define success as money.

Money just makes your problems bigger and more expensive.

It doesn't solve anything.

Makes it easier, but it doesn't solve anything.

So I don't, fame and fortune, I think, are in many ways battery acid to the soul.

So you tell me how you define success.

But I want to hear American success stories where people started with absolutely nothing.

and have no reason, had no reason to believe they could make it and have made it to a place to where you're saying, I'm a successful human being.

I am pursuing the things I want to pursue.

Number is 888-727-BECK.

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I'm going to go to New York, where nobody can make it.

It is so bad.

You just can never make it.

Tim knows.

Tim, you live in New York.

Can you make it, Tim?

Well, you know, something,

despite all that,

I have made it, Glenn.

And, you know, good morning to you.

And I was telling your call screener, yeah, I'm the poster child of somebody that grew up with absolutely nothing.

I was physically and emotionally abused by my elder siblings, by my parents, told I would never amount to anything.

Matter of fact,

even one of my teachers,

back when I was in a Catholic school, I was sent to Catholic school to straighten me out because

I don't know what I did, but I must have been a bad kid.

So at any rate,

one of those twisted nuns told my mother, yep, Tim's going to end up in prison.

Geez.

Just a little update on that.

I've never been arrested for sitting on a sidewalk.

And even despite government, as a matter of fact, I can even go one better on that.

I'm going to make it quick.

I know you've got a lot of callers to get to, but I was actually screwed over by government.

I'm a retired federal officer.

And I was actually,

they wanted me removed from service for

inappropriate conduct.

And of course, that ended up being false, and they had to pay me a lot of money to settle that up.

But

government is nobody's friend on any level.

But

my story is this one: as far as I told you about my upbringing.

Right now, I'm a safety and health consultant for four different companies.

Success

has gotten me, gotten me everything I wanted.

It's my faith in God, my faith in myself, my determination,

just picking myself up by my bootstraps every day that got me to where

I've finally gotten to.

Everything has been great, but you've got to have that faith in God first and foremost.

And I know you know that.

Yeah, I do too.

Thank you, Tim.

I appreciate it.

You know, I am

really fortunate.

You know, my folks got a divorce when I was young, moved with my mom.

She was a bad alcoholic, addicted to drugs, and

then committed suicide.

And

boy, I have every reason to not believe my father lost his business.

He was a small business owner and just could never make a go of it because the malls came in and people started buying baked goods from supermarkets and everything else.

And yet, I strangely believe that everyone can make it.

I got my optimism somehow or another from my dad,

who had every reason to bitch and whine himself.

And he didn't.

And it's,

I don't know how it happens.

I don't know how it happens, but it is, it does come from your thinking.

If you really believe that you can't make it, I can guarantee you you will never make it.

If you, if you truly believe that the world is against you, I guarantee you will find the world is against you.

But if you if you change your thinking, your life will change.

It is

I was told never to

whine and

bitch and moan, but to get it done, find a way to get it done.

I certainly did not take the normal path to success.

I mean, you would never predict this.

You could have never predicted my life.

Everything that when there's a roadblock, I go around it

and do something that everybody says is insane.

But for some reason, I don't think it is, and I try it.

Sometimes I lose, sometimes I win.

But I'm happy because no one controls my life.

As much as big tech and everybody is coming against us, and I really truly believe there's coming a time where I'm not going to be able to broadcast this way to you.

But I guarantee you, we will not lose touch with each other because I'm not going to stop.

It's just another roadblock, and I'll go around it.

We'll find a way.

That's the American spirit.

The rest of the world is told what to do and told to sit down and shut up.

And Americans don't take kindly to that.

It's one of the reasons why the vaccinations are going so poorly.

Because people bristle in America at being told, do this or else.

We don't respond well to that.

And you know what?

Congratulations America.

Congratulations.

We may disagree on the vaccines and the masks and everything else, but at least you are not just sitting down and taking it and do exactly as you're told.

Good for you.

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Just a quick political note, call your senator.

The infrastructure bill

should not pass.

And

I think a way to have this click in your mind, why,

we've never understood why it's being called an infrastructure bill because most of it's not infrastructure, right?

No, it is all infrastructure.

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All right,

let me go to David in Missouri.

We're talking to people today that had no reason to expect that

they were going to be able to make it.

We just talked to a guy a minute ago who is,

you know, who is told every step of the way, you're going to go to prison, you're never going to make it.

Even in my house, I mean, it was,

they helped me on my career.

My folks would take me to the radio station and everything else.

But they didn't really believe.

I mean, I was told,

you know, you really should have a backup career.

And it was a good idea, but because maybe because I didn't have one, this had to work.

But anyway, David is with us now in Missouri.

David,

why did you have no expectation of making it in other people's eyes growing up?

Well, thank you for having my call, Glenn.

It's an honor speaking with you.

Long time listener, first time caller.

Thank you.

You know, I grew up in a single-parent home.

My biological father left my mother when she was pregnant.

I have no idea who he is or where he is, and that chapter is long gone.

But, you know, my mom's first husband was former military and a prison guard.

He was a very harsh man and mentally and physically abused me for years and years and years.

And it caused damage that still to this day, I still find traces of in my life that I have to overcome.

But along the way, I found alcohol, which consumed my life.

I could tell you, you know, six to eight months of time that I don't recall at all of my life because I had so much alcohol consumption.

I ended up getting married.

My wife had two kids, and I took them as my own and raised them, but it was very difficult because I had obviously the tendencies from my mom's first husband that still left traces of my parenting.

So I was a harsh person for a long time, and then you add the fuel of the alcohol to it.

It was a hard time.

Holy cow.

Yeah.

Over time,

over time, my wife and I actually got divorced after we had jointly had our child together, and alcohol is still considered to, you know, could still consume to me.

And I remember there was a day, this was actually August 1st of 2010.

I was away from my wife and my family, and I had my youngest daughter with me, and we were just sitting there together, and I was hung over more than I could imagine.

And I looked at her, and I thought, this is God's gift to me, and I'm treating it like this.

And that day, I set the bottle down, never touched it again.

August 1st this year was actually my 11th year of sobriety.

So let's get past the alcohol part.

After that,

I mean, I had nothing.

I had no skill.

I had no future.

I had no hope.

And so I just worked dead-end job after dead-end job until finally, you know, I landed in a service industry that I was very successful in and my skills were great.

And after working for many people with a lot of prayer and counsel from church leaders, I started my own business.

And I actually started my own business probably similar to the way that you did a lot of things in your life where I didn't have a lot of money or support.

It was whatever I had at the time.

I think I might have had $1,100 to start a company with.

And fast forward five years later, the Lord has blessed me to the point where I know the Bible says if you bring the tithe of the storehouse of the Lord, he will pour out blessings upon you more than you can ever contain.

And sometimes I'm praying, Lord, I appreciate the blessings, but can I just have just a little bit less right now?

Because this is a lot.

And

God is just so good.

And, you know, I have more hope and joy than I have ever had in my life.

And success to me is not the business.

Success to me is not the possessions that I have.

The success that I feel in my heart is my relationship with Jesus Christ and my love for people.

Just the stories that I can tell them,

the testimony that I have.

And if you were to even look at the business profile that I have on Google or talk to the customers that I have,

they tell me day after day.

They say, we love doing business with you because you care about me, not the money.

You come into my place of business or my home to help me with my service issue, and you genuinely care about me.

And my customers are my friends.

The people around me are my friends.

And I just have a joy of life that's contagious.

And that was never, who would have ever thought that was in the cards of my life?

I was a raging alcoholic from an abusive, you know, at the hands of an abusive prison guard.

How's your relationship with your kids?

How's your relationship with your kids?

So I would tell you that my two oldest kids, we have a fantastic relationship, but they're still,

I mean, I repent of them

often, and I tell them

regularly how sorry I am for the things that I did or said.

But I will say this,

I love them more than I ever have in my life.

They're very successful successful children.

Actually, they're not, I say they're always going to be my children, but they're 18 and 19 now.

So they're older and very successful themselves.

One of my crowning achievements is that day on August 10th, when I set the bottle down for the last time, my youngest daughter was actually not old enough to ever have recollection of me ever drinking.

Still to this day, still 14 years old, 13 years old.

still has no clue that I ever drank alcohol and never will, ever, ever, ever will know that I ever did only through stories that I tell her as cautionary tales of things to look out for from the evils of the world and the vices that can grab a hold of you so tightly and easily.

Wow.

David, I am so glad that you called in.

Thank you.

Congratulations.

I'm so happy for you.

So happy for you.

Well, thank you.

You bet.

God bless.

It's by the grace of God.

God bless.

Thank you, Blaine.

I will tell you, you notice the theme here.

I think everyone has mentioned God in some way or another.

Every single person.

I think even the first guy who lives in Wisconsin, which I don't understand, the horse racing is fine, or the horse raising horses is fine.

Just Wisconsin, really?

Wisconsin.

There are places that aren't that cold or progressive.

I just want to point that out to you.

And that's the birthplace of progressivism.

Yeah, it is.

Anyway, but you notice the

mark here.

There's no reason for hope.

You know,

I know that God lives.

I know that God lives.

I know the

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Hello, Linda.

Hello, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm very good.

I want to tell you about my husband.

He won't do these born, but I will.

He was raised in the Ozark Mountains in Arkansas, went to a very, very small school from a very poor family.

No money to go to college, so he scrubbed tables, scrubbed toilets and weighted tables, worked his way up into college.

went to college, and the last year he went to college, the Navy approached him and they would pay for his last year of college if he joined the Navy, so he did.

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the lady from Slovakia, that her husband was the same as my husband, he was here, represented that, ended up his career as a consultant for his company in some countries overseas helping them do their nuclear plants.

This man had nothing, started from scratch from nothing, and he's built himself up.

So if anybody can make it in the United States of America, God bless us, this man did and anybody else can too.

Linda, I have to tell you, he's successful for another reason.

I mean, listen to the way his wife speaks about him.

He is a success in life.

Linda, thank you so much.

Because we had his wife on the other line, and she was amazing.

All right, tomorrow I want to talk to people who are from foreign countries that

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I mean, Pat started his life as a sharecropper.

Yeah,

in Montana.

Helena Montana.

Forgotten.

Forgotten sharecroppers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

what kind of shares did you raise?

What kind of shares?

Yeah.

Mostly Apple.

Apple.

Some Microsoft.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But we couldn't get to New York.

Really?

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Wow.

I never sold them.

We had to burn them for firewood so that we could keep warm at night.

Really?

Yeah.

Your Apple shares.

Yeah.

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You couldn't get to New York.

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Yeah, but you didn't have that opportunity.

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You know,

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No, like they don't.

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Also in the west.

Yeah.

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But hey, I made it.

I made it.

I mean, I've got, I'm, you did, you know, I never caught him, but I still, I still have my career, uh, a long, long contract with Warner Brothers.

Okay, yeah, and how many coyotes have that?

Not that many, many coyotes.

Not that many.

Yeah.

You know, in fact, none.

I'm the only one that has that.

So don't tell me.

I won't.

You can't make it.

I'll tell you that.

Even though

I never caught that damn roadrunner.

No.

But I still made it.

Well, there's different definitions of success.

Success.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Sharecropper will know that.

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Hello, America, and welcome to Tuesday.

Last week, there was a story that not a lot of people spent a lot of time on,

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Apple announced plans to scan our phones and the cloud to make sure that we're not dealing in child abuse or child pornography.

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Right?

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Apple plans to scan US iPhones for child abuse imagery.

And on the surface, if you're not paying attention to what's going on in the world, you think, oh, well, that's good.

I got an email from a guy who used to be very, very high up at Yahoo about 20 years ago.

And he said, we basically set up a direct line with the FBI because we frequently had websites submitted to us to be crawled or indexed that we believed may contain child pornography or other illegal things.

At first, we were just emailing links over to the FBI task force, but the process for them to check on it and get back to us was just so arduous that we just eventually set the FBI up with an E3 terminal in their LA area offices.

That was basically the same terminal that our editorial team members, those who were the keepers of the internet at the time, they determined which websites and search results showed up for people and which ones we would block, trying to keep harmful or illegal content out of Yahoo's search results.

So by giving the FBI an E3 terminal, anyone from the editorial team or the sales group could submit a website directly to them for review.

It would pop up in their queue, just like a help desk ticket, and someone at the FBI could review it and let us know if the content was legal.

But they could also just flag something to be blocked, and it would be blocked.

Generally, no questions asked.

And because of what we felt at the time, we felt like we were doing good taking down child and sex trafficking criminals.

We felt great about it.

This long-winded way of saying,

yeah, I'm sure that Apple is and others are getting into a cozy relationship between social search, tech giants, and the government.

We now know that this was a mistake to open up the door in the first place.

Ross Anderson is with us.

He is a professor of security at Cambridge University and one of the louder voices speaking out and warning us about what Apple is doing.

Hi, Ross.

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you so much for being on the program with me.

I want to understand

why this is so dangerous.

Apple says it has all kinds of safety features, and they're only scanning faces for those that are

in sex rings or have been sex trafficked,

and maybe those children that are missing.

Well,

you can see how this is going to develop.

That first of all,

Apple will be scanning all the photos in everybody's camera role everywhere in the USA and later everywhere in the world against a database of 200,000 abuse images

that have been supplied by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Now, given the way that their neural network is organized, it looks like it's going to scan for faces, as you say.

And so so you can imagine the kind of things that will happen.

That there'll be some abuse image that's 10 or 20 years old and so the reviewers at Apple will see a photograph which isn't of child sex abuse but of a grown-up with their clothes on.

And the system will recognize this person and the person at Apple then has to decide whether this is a a survivor or a perpetrator and what to do with it.

There's a small problem there that US law says that if you do get suspected child abuse material, you should report it at once to NCMEC rather than reporting it to Apple.

So there's first the illegal problem there.

And then secondly, there's the problem of what happens when NCMEC extends that to missing children.

Because some of the children who are known, you know, who go missing, go missing for perfectly good reasons.

For example, they might be getting abused at home, they might get beaten or even sexually abused.

And so if you recognize runaways, there's all sorts of processes around that you have to think about.

Apple doesn't seem to have thought about this.

They don't seem very keen to provide help desks and helplines and places where people can report stuff.

And then the next problem is that once you've got a mechanism sitting in your iPhone that can scan your camera row for

faces, it's open to any government in the world to come along with a warrant and say, hey, mister Apple, we've got a file of 20,000 faces faces that we'd like you to scan for in our country.

And you can guess what those faces might be.

In China, it might be the faces of the Dalai Lama and the Pope.

In Europe, if there's been some rowdy demonstration in Paris, for example, the police might feed in the faces of demonstrators.

You know, your guess is as good as mine.

But Apple is building a very, very dangerous mechanism into its iPhones, and there needs to be proper scrutiny and accountability of this.

So this is actually is it based on or is it just very similar to something that happened in 2008 in China that kind of opened Pandora's box?

Well, yes.

And this is a worrying thing, you know, because if our civilization is going to be in Cold War 2.0 with China for the next 20 years or 30 years, we should watch what the Chinese do and understand it rather than copying them.

And in China, what happened in 2008 is that they mandated everybody in the country to put software called Green Dam on their PCs.

And Green Dam was sold to the population as being a porn filter.

And it did that to some extent, but very badly.

However, the real purpose of Green Dam was to look for words like Falun Gong and Dalai Lama and so on that were of interest to the Ministry of State Security.

What Green Dam also did is it made your computer vulnerable because the government weren't very good at writing software and the software that they produced meant that everybody who used the Green Dam software was vulnerable to having their PC taken over by websites that they visited.

Now, that's been fixed by now, but still, it's the case that in China and in Russia, we have this ecosystem of governments scanning what's on people's PCs.

And no doubt, the Chinese will be seeing to it that they get to scan stuff in people's phones as well.

So, you know, it was we were talking about this the other day, and I said to my staff, can anybody name anything anything that you know is a bigger threat to your freedom and security than

social media and technology?

I mean, it's not necessarily the threat today, but we know what it can do.

And

yet, again, do you know anybody who has given it up and said, I'm just not going to be a part of this?

Very, very rarely does that happen.

We are just going down the road and they keep passing these red lines of, oh, that's a really bad sign.

That's a really bad thing to do.

And just hoping that it's not going to be turned against us when we already see social media is doing all of these things.

Well, absolutely.

You know, I used Android for many years and switched to Apple a couple of years ago when I was updating my security engineering book and I noted how much more secure Apple was.

But the problem with Apple iPhones being tamper resistant is that I can't easily drill into them and find out what they're doing.

I can't see the database of hashes of abuse in my phone and check that it doesn't contain hashes of dissidents instead.

With a less secure phone like an Android, you could perhaps do that and you could hold people to account.

So here is a case where security is being used against us to undermine our privacy.

And the tamper resistance of the iPhone means that the government can have an iSpy in your iPhone over which you've got no control whatsoever.

Ross, how far away are we

from

an easy police state with the wrong person taking charge?

Well, that's exactly the problem here.

You mustn't give the police too much power.

You may think that it's nice to give the police power when your lot are in charge, but it never works because you end up with the other lot in charge and

then you've had it.

So to stay free, we have to see to it that the government can only do so much, that it can't undermine our basic freedoms.

And you're lucky in the United States having your Constitution.

And here in Europe, we have the European Convention on Human Rights.

And once you get to those parts of the world where we don't have guarantees for basic freedoms, well, good luck.

Well, I don't know if you've been paying attention much to America lately, Ross, but we're not following the Constitution.

I mean, we are our Constitution says, you know,

you can't quarter soldiers into a house and go through somebody's papers.

Well, I think you already have that.

If you're online and the government wants some information, they're just going to go to one of these tech companies and they'll go through all of your papers.

I mean, and they'll watch you or they'll scan your photos.

And there's no such thing as privacy anymore.

Well, indeed.

And I'm not an expert in U.S.

law, of course, being a Brit, but I hear from American friends that the argument which Apple and the FBI are going to use goes to a case around drug sniffer dogs, where somebody's in a traffic stop had a drug sniffer dog brought around and they found some

weed in his boot and he got convicted and he said that was unfair.

And the court said that if you've got a search that finds only contraband, that's okay.

Now, it depends on what the government defines as contraband.

But if you've got a government search engine that can look at all your most intimate stuff, you know, your photos, your emails, your texts, and it can use artificial intelligence to find out something that the government of the day considers to be contraband,

then that means

makes a mockery of the idea that you've got to get warrants.

Because suddenly you're turning the universe around so that the government to do surveillance doesn't have to get a warrant against a suspected person but against a suspected idea or an expect a suspected image or a suspected form of speech is that's what's that's what's changing here and it's really scary is there is there anything the average person can do to secure themselves

well um

What's happening

in the long term, this is down to political action, This is down to legal action.

This is down to, well, my next phone isn't going to be an iPhone.

In the meantime, Apple's saying that they will only scan your photos if you back them up in iCloud.

Well, then fine.

Buy yourself a disk drive and attach it to your laptop and back your phone up on your laptop and back the laptop up on a disk drive.

Right.

I mean, by doing that, that only just tells anybody who does market in child pornography, don't put it on the iCloud.

That doesn't make any sense at all.

Well, and it's also too much bother for most people.

You see, what Apple and the FBI will be relying on here is the fact that Apple nag you really, really hard to get an iCloud account and to put more money in it and to back your phone up to iCloud and your MacBook too, rather than using a disk drive.

You know, for some years, my wife refused to get an iCloud account, and every time she connected her iPhone to the MacBook, it just complained and said, put in your iCloud password.

And it's this kind of commercial nagging that is now going to be exploited by law enforcement to drive a coach and horses through security.

But there is another thing here, which is that your photos in iCloud aren't properly encrypted when they're backed up anyway.

So Apple could, if it wished,

run child porn detection software over the photos, just like, for example, Facebook does over photos in Facebook Messenger and Google does over photos in Gmail.

And it could then report people who already have illegal images in iCloud to NCMac, but it doesn't do that.

Last year, Facebook reported made over 20 million reports to NCMAC, and Apple made under 1,000.

So something really weird going on here.

Apple really cared about stopping child sex abuse.

They could have done a lot of stuff a long time ago.

Any thought on why they're now taking this step?

Because it's unneeded?

Apparently?

Well,

one of the things that's been suggested is that Apple is contemplating encrypting iCloud data properly, and the FBI is going to object to that unless there's some means of scanning for stuff of interest to them.

But of course,

child sex abuse material isn't the only thing of interest to the FBI.

The FBI has got much wider interest than that.

Ross, thank you very much.

Thank you for everything that you're doing and speaking the truth and letting people know

what is possible with technology and what is coming our way.

Professor of Security at Cambridge University on the Apple plan to now use iPhones to scan for

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English?

No.

Our language is ones and zeros.

And what is so frightening about the future are those ones and zeros and what are being done with them and how it can enslave all of us.

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Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm very.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah.

You are the first person that has compared big tech to the Tower of Babel that I know of.

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it's a remarkable article.

You want to go into it?

Sure.

So most of us know the story of the Tower of Babel, right?

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We need to jumble their language and spread them out into different parts, into different cities and different

states and islands so that we can actually develop different languages and there's no kind of one central control of it.

That's the story of the Tower of Babel.

And I think, you know, I'm a big fan of tech.

I spend my day job investing in technology and startups and innovation.

I think it propels us forward.

What I worry about, you know, what I worry about is when you don't put kind of timeless values at the center of this, at the center of this innovation, it can go awry, which is what happened in the Tower of Babel.

Now, we have what I would call problems of deep platforming or enforcement of a

certain orthodoxy of what you can and can't say.

And even more scary right now, candidly, is financial deplatforming, where tools of finance, which are very digital, and I'm a big fan of that.

If a single company or a couple of companies can deplatform somebody financially, it can be destructive to many of us.

Oh, I mean,

there's no escape from this if it was used

with the wrong intent and

in the wrong hands.

Technology, we are facing either the greatest time period, and this is saying something because there is no other time, if people were honest, there is no other time in history

or any other place in history that people would want to be born than right now in the United States of America.

It is remarkable what technology can bring to us in a very short period of time, but it's breathtaking to think how fast it can become

a really bad

jailer or slave maker.

You know, I think one of the,

if somebody said to me this morning, he says, you know, you're a traditional conservative in that you want change, but it needs to kind of happen in phases and not all at once because

we need to work in timeless values into these things.

I called my book the tree of life and prosperity because I believe that capitalism and innovation drives tremendous prosperity, but that prosperity can turn problematic if you don't have the tree of life, which is kind of our timeless wisdom and principles that I think have are time-tested over thousands of years.

I'll tell you something else.

We've gotten to kind of a relativist values era, let's just call it right now, where kind of new bontons come and go.

And we have this notion that everything we've built today is kind of bigger and better than it was in the past.

Well, the Bible, at least in my view, has had the largest number of daily active users since time immemorial.

That probably tells us something about its staying power and the values that it drives home.

And I think that needs to inform our innovation.

That needs to inform our economy going forward.

And that's kind of the edifice I'm trying to erect in the book

around this.

And by the way, this touches other topics.

I had a piece that was published today on Town Hall about universal basic income.

I'm sure that's a hot topic of yours as well.

It doesn't work.

Explain through the tree of life.

Explain why.

So, you know, again, like timeless stories in the Bible, we have one called the Garden of Eden.

And the Garden of Eden is an interesting story because it can be interpreted in so many different ways.

But one of the super interesting things about the Garden of Eden is that man's

needs, basic needs, were absolutely provided for in the Garden, right?

And he doesn't work.

And he's bored.

And they're so bored that Eve doesn't talk to him.

She talks to the serpent.

And there's no kind of joint activity, joint life pursuit.

And until man is expelled from the Garden of Eden, the Bible does not say it's a curse, just says he's expelled, he actually doesn't have children.

So until he encounters hard work, thorns and thistles outside the garden, there's no children and there's no work that's productive.

And UBI has said the only purpose of work is that you get an income.

But that's not accurate.

Work is productivity.

Work is what gets people out in the morning.

Work is a solid part of family life.

And I think we need to kind of return to those roots because it's not just about your basics.

It's about your hard work and your productivity in society.

And by the way, if we need a reminder, COVID is it.

People are not going to work after COVID because there was too much money just handed out in a basic way.

And we do need to take care of people in society.

I think that's a very important principle that's thousands of years old who are on hard times.

And that is society's and citizens' responsibility.

But if we provide their income, they're not going back to work.

We've literally just proven that in a living lab called COVID.

So

how do you make this case to

a country that doesn't understand what it really has,

is turning its back on really scientifically proven

knowns,

turning its back on

all of the scientific theory,

rejecting all time-tested principles?

Well, we're just printing, we're not printing money.

We're digitizing money.

So there won't be inflation.

I mean, come on.

We're turning our back on all of these things.

How do you suggest

we sell this to people?

So I think there's a couple of parts to this.

One is we actually need to embrace technology and innovation and

even things like cryptocurrencies, which are helping people

maintain freedom.

However,

we need to start a conversation around what are the core principles you know many of these are enshrined in the Constitution many of them are enshrined the Declaration of Independence and America's kind of at its core got this right

but we we've got a bunch of topics that have become taboo like we can ask people to go to work and by the way we should ask people not just what their rights are but what their responsibilities are I think one of the things that the the Bible teaches us is you actually have very few rights you have mostly responsibilities to your fellow and and we need to ask people to take responsibility both for themselves and and for other people they should do it out of a sense of duty and i think that's one of the great things about america people had a sense of duty and not a sense of entitlement and um

can that be can that really can that really be had without a an honest search by the individual for uh higher power

i mean

otherwise it's just imposing duties on people

look one of the things i've i've kind of discovered is that when we talk to people who are kind of eye to eye and level with them, irrespective of their religious persuasion or belief in God,

people want to be a part of something greater than themselves.

They want to be a part of something that's successful.

They want to be a part of something that is caring.

For me, by the way, it's my belief in God, right?

I think for many of your listeners, the same is true.

But I don't think that excludes other people.

And I think we can reach out.

And I just reach out.

I think we can have a level-set conversation.

I was inspired by my grandfather a lot, who was a naval officer in World War II, and had

deep friends of different persuasions.

And

they had a sense of duty.

And they supported each other in that sense of duty.

And I think that's super important here.

And we got to get away from senses of entitlement.

And I think the biblical stories around that, you know, support that.

And I think, you know, the other thing is you know this going back to the Tower of Babel for a second we have to watch out for how how

enforcing powerful entities are freedom is critically important and in the second volume of the book which has actually come out in Hebrew but not yet in English

one of the foundations of like of the Exodus is you need freedom in order to have private property so freedom of thought, freedom to be different,

freedom to speak your mind is fundamental to capitalism and private property.

And, you know, we need to insist on that.

Very good.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate your work.

And the book is The Tree of Life and Prosperity, Michael Eisenberg.

Best of luck to you, Michael.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

I really appreciate it.

Have a great day.

You too.

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Unbelievable.

Looks like

the infrastructure bill has passed.

Yay, 69,

nay, 30.

30.

What is wrong with our Republicans?

What is wrong with them?

All right, let's,

you know, let me give you something happy.

Let me play this is from

Facebook and Zachariah Washington.

Listen to this.

I want to ask y'all, where is our faith?

Right now, where is our faith?

Because right now, we got a lot of people out here that are losing their faith.

We got a lot of people out here that don't know what to do.

We got a lot of people out here that just, they just losing it.

And in my perspective, you losing your mind for no reason.

Ain't nothing that happened in this world but one thing.

And that one thing is, the Bible is fulfilling itself.

Everything that the bible said was gonna happen it's happening so why be surprised if we read in our if we read our bible we would know even at my age i'm not even i'm not even afraid or scared about nothing that's going on in this earth today such as coronavirus such as this uh new virus they got out which is death virus i ain't scared of none of that and you want to know why because i trust in god and that's what all of all of our faith all of our trust all of our hope all a lot of us on this life half of us we done lost it all why

because Because we don't know.

Because we're listening to man.

We're listening to the news.

We're listening to the CCD.

We're listening to the president instead of trusting in God.

How old do you think he is?

10?

Yeah, 10, 12.

10, 12?

Somewhere in there.

Amazing kid.

Amazing kid.

We're waiting for Senator Cuomo to speak.

He was supposed to speak about 10 minutes ago.

They are

calling on him to resign.

And it looks like he's starting to speak.

Okay, here we go.

Can we take that?

Do we have it?

We don't have it.

Let's just see

if we can get anything from it.

I mean, nobody expects that he's going to actually resign, do they?

No,

I don't know.

He's been pretty adamant that he's not going to.

And I think they're going to have to get him out with the jaws of life.

Here it is.

He just said

the people's reaction was outrage to this, and it should have been.

My lawyers have reviewed the report over the past several days and have already raised serious issues and flaws that should concern all New Yorkers.

Because when there's a bias or a lack of fairness in the job, I can't believe this.

I can't believe this.

He is just going to stand and fight it.

Well, I mean,

they learned from Bill Clinton.

They all learned from Bill Clinton.

Just stretch it out as much as you can until people get sick of it.

They don't want to hear about it anymore.

And then they'll just forget about it.

Right.

And just move on.

Yeah.

And then it just becomes more politics.

And they're only saying this because of politics.

Right.

It's like Joe Biden said the other day about his son.

Or was it

the spokesperson for Biden said something like,

that's already been litigated?

Yeah.

No, no, no, it hasn't.

No, it hasn't.

But people feel like it has because it's just all about politics.

All right, we'll see you on tomorrow's broadcast.

And don't forget, tomorrow night on Blaze TV, Cuba.

What's really happening?

And why are the tech giants not doing anything about it?