Best of The Program | Guests: Tatiana Ibrahim & Graham Allen | 6/11/21

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the podcast. We start start with a rant on Hunter Biden that I'm out of control.

Speaker 2 I can't take the hypocrisy. Glenn appropriately antagonizes me into losing my mind, and that starts the show.
We talked to a mom.

Speaker 2 We actually played her video the other day who's upset at the school board and the craziness that is going on with critical race theory in our schools. She comes on with us today.

Speaker 2 We have Alex Clark on from Poplitix.

Speaker 2 She is bringing conservative ideas to the world of pop culture and bringing an entire new group of people that wouldn't normally listen to conservative positions. And she's a fascinating person.

Speaker 2 And Graham Allen, our buddy Graham Allen, who was at the Blaze for a while. We love Graham.

Speaker 2 He is now running for Congress and he's going to tell you about that whole situation going after a Republican incumbent who voted to impeach Donald Trump. All that is on today's podcast.

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Speaker 2 Today is the day. I make him suffer.
I really do.

Speaker 2 I tell Stu, we're going to get to it. We're going to get to it.
But I know if I continue to hold on,

Speaker 2 then

Speaker 2 spring the trap and he explodes.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 I thought I would just say two words. Hunter Biden.

Speaker 2 I am

Speaker 2 out of my mind.

Speaker 2 I am out of my mind with the hypocrisy on this Hunter Biden. That's not very productive.

Speaker 2 Not very productive. It's really not.

Speaker 2 In case you don't know,

Speaker 2 if you're lucky enough to pay attention to conservative media, then you might be aware that Hunter Biden, who happens to be the son of the president, if you don't listen to conservative radio, you may not even know that.

Speaker 2 He's the son of the president of the United States. He's been calling his lawyer the N-word in texts.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 we had to go across the pond to the daily mail to even find that out they were the first ones to actually report this and this the custom has a problem with it yes the conversations are completely insane first of all i will warn you if you have your small kids in the car you may want to take a break but this is i would say one of those why is it going to be uncomfortable are you saying these are uncomfortable conversations couldn't be any more uncomfortable than what allison camerata had to do yesterday could it no okay that's a good point that is it's not that

Speaker 2 I have to do that today.

Speaker 2 It's not that uncomfortable. Oh, it's next.
Oh, good. Okay.
Okay. So this is a legitimate conversation between Hunter Biden and his lawyer.

Speaker 2 It's the strangest conversation I've ever heard in my entire life.

Speaker 2 Until, of course, obviously, Allison Camerada.

Speaker 2 Can I play the lawyer? Yes, okay, yes. And you play Hunter.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Here we go.
All right. You start.
Okay. Hi, I'm Hunter Biden, and here's my text messages.

Speaker 2 Okay. Where do you find unconditional love then, George?

Speaker 2 God loves us unconditionally. Beau loves you unconditionally.
Children are too young to understand what it means, but you will show them.

Speaker 2 Oh, there are ideals of unconditional love that serve as proxies. I don't have many.

Speaker 2 You,

Speaker 2 God,

Speaker 2 OMG, N-word.

Speaker 2 Wait. What?

Speaker 2 What? That is legitimately his response to that interaction. Think about what this is like.
His lawyer is in this deep moment of trying to help Hunter through God only knows what.

Speaker 2 A moment of introspection. He gives this beautiful thing about unconditional love, and his reply is OMG N-word.

Speaker 2 No, but wait, wait, wait. He goes off.

Speaker 2 He doesn't just leave it at OMG N-word. He goes, OMG, N-Word, did you just cite a fictional character from the imagination of the collective frightened? By the way, that is

Speaker 2 the son of the president of the United States, this devout Catholic describing God. That's what.
So

Speaker 2 that's how his description is. Hang on just a second.
Hang on. You have to say it more like him, though, I think.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think he probably said it, oh, my, OMG,

Speaker 2 N-Word. Okay,

Speaker 2 did you just a fictional character from the imagination of the collective writing?

Speaker 2 And my dead brother's

Speaker 2 unconditional love is what I should rely on. And my kids aren't children, George.
So he, it's hard to really parse what he's doing there. He's saying, I reject

Speaker 2 seemingly God.

Speaker 2 right is what he's saying i reject you to be better if you my brother's my dead brother's unconditional love which was i thought would be a nice moment for someone no and and then he points out his kids are not joking.

Speaker 2 Yep, I understand what he was saying there. Okay, so then his lawyer says, my parents' love was conditioned.

Speaker 2 My penis,

Speaker 2 as of late, has been unconditional.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 What is he talking about? I don't even.

Speaker 2 First of all, there's the point that, like, he's talking about unconditional love, and he just brings it to his junk out of nowhere with this person who's trying to help him through this crisis.

Speaker 2 Secondly, if you're saying your junk is unconditional, are you saying that it has a condition under normal circumstances? Like, is this a medical sort of condition?

Speaker 2 Sometimes I think sometimes it should stay in your pants. I think all men understand that.
All women understand that.

Speaker 2 Sometimes your junk should stay in the junk drug. It should be under the condition of lockdown for Hunter Biden.

Speaker 2 Right, okay.

Speaker 2 So his attorney writes,

Speaker 2 that's why we're searching for my penis.

Speaker 2 This is real. We're not making this up.
This is really what the text messages say.

Speaker 2 And his attorney responds, and we will always be searching. He's just trying to just ignore him.

Speaker 2 And we'll always be searching.

Speaker 2 Again, I apologize for the content of these texts. They are not mine he says and we will after he says we will always be searching hunter replies it's a big penis george they always find it

Speaker 2 and and the last one i only love you

Speaker 2 because you're black

Speaker 2 again these are real

Speaker 2 and he's I believe he's a white attorney is he not I don't know

Speaker 2 he's he says it's so then the attorney responds it is so annoying when you interject with frivolity. Now, again, think of the arc of this conversation.

Speaker 2 It's all like these nice, warm, I know you're going through a tough time. I want to help you through it from the attorney.
And he just keeps replying with the N-word and

Speaker 2 jokes about his genitals.

Speaker 2 So after he says, it's so annoying you interject with frivolity, he's finally hit that limit, right? The lawyer's like, all right, this is, I, you're just being an idiot.

Speaker 2 And he replies, true dat, N-word.

Speaker 2 Oh my my gosh. It's just so much.
That's when the lawyer finally says,

Speaker 2 okay, I'm done with my rants. Yeah.
That's how

Speaker 2 I think you have to say,

Speaker 2 are you sure he does drugs? Because

Speaker 2 I find that shocking. I don't know how anyone might have detected that he

Speaker 2 was, you know, doing drugs. And I think the family probably had to be equally as stunned when that revelation came out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's stunning. I will say what is not at all stunning is that absolutely no one in the mainstream media has taken the time to bother even commenting on these texts.

Speaker 2 The industry that single-handedly exists to fire people and cancel people for their naughty words can't muster one story about Hunter Biden and his use of the N-word.

Speaker 2 These networks and papers and the P-word.

Speaker 2 I think we should go with a P-word as well with his attorney. I mean, he's just

Speaker 2 very weird. Very weird, and obviously on drugs.

Speaker 2 All day,

Speaker 2 these media organizations exist to tell people who are like down on their luck or living in a trailer somewhere that they have too much white privilege.

Speaker 2 They're racist and they have white privilege, but they can't see anything interesting in the single most privileged person in the universe using the N-word

Speaker 2 on a bunch of texts.

Speaker 2 Nothing to say here whatsoever. Nothing.
And you know what? What's great is you talk about white privilege.

Speaker 2 You're telling people who live in trailer parks that they're white privilege, but you also say that they're trash. These trashy people.
This guy is the most trashy person I have ever encountered.

Speaker 2 Oh, he is just the worst. I mean, it's hard to lower your opinion of Hunter Biden, but this whole escapade may do that.
I don't think it did. It didn't lower it for me at all.
Okay, Stu. Stu,

Speaker 2 I know that you have this weird thing about Hunter Biden and his corruption and all of this stuff. But I'm telling you now, I don't think, let me ask you three questions.

Speaker 2 Would the Times cover this if it happened to a similar person? Like if you did it?

Speaker 2 Or if

Speaker 2 Donald Trump's son did it. Do you think, do you really think they'd cover that? I don't think there is an equivalent person on the other side of the aisle on this one.

Speaker 2 I mean, if the Trump kids are doing crack, they're leaving less of it on the dashboard of their rental cars when they return them. So we don't know

Speaker 2 if they are.

Speaker 2 They seem to be impregnating random strippers at a less frequent rate. So I don't know that there is an equivalent person.
But if you want to pick, just pick one of the Trump kids.

Speaker 2 eric trump right like eric trump's texts come out and he's using the n-word over all over the place do you think cnn would find a 30-second segment they might possibly reference it at some point in their profile all right let's be fair and balanced okay question number two

Speaker 2 Maybe they just are not interested in Hunter Biden under any circumstances because he plays no role in anybody's life. Really?

Speaker 2 That's interesting because they just ran a giant profile of Hunter Biden, not to criticize him for anything, but to help him promote his book that came out a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 They went through, they gave him a wide open space to just address everything that's gone wrong in his life.

Speaker 2 And they even had time to include color about his very first job when he worked with llamas and otters at the zoo.

Speaker 2 Which

Speaker 2 this world is so insane. It's so insane.
They're writing a story about Hunter Biden and how he worked with otters and llamas. How bizarre is this? Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. Question number three.
Question number three.

Speaker 2 They don't usually have problems with people using the N-word.

Speaker 2 You know. We phrase that as a question.
They don't usually. I mean, do they usually have a problem with somebody using the N-word? I found that they do.
And let me give you an example of this, Glenn.

Speaker 2 They fired Donald McNeil for using the N-word in a response to a question from a teenager about the use of racist language. Now, McNeil's use of this word in his defense.
He was flippantly using it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, he was just

Speaker 2 a nice, easy answer. He asked what I think was a pretty rational question.

Speaker 2 One of the kids on this trip said, Hey, you know, is it okay? My friend used the n-word. Should they get in trouble? And he said, Well, how did they use it?

Speaker 2 Did they use it in like a racist way at going after someone, or did they use it like in a rap lyric or something? And then he used the word in an example,

Speaker 2 and that was enough to get him fired multiple years after the incident. By the way, Glenn, this guy,

Speaker 2 this is their lead COVID reporter during a pandemic. They fired him over nothing, not even.

Speaker 2 This is a guy who worked there for a half century, Glenn. The guy who was there for almost 50 years at the times, and they fired him for using the N-word when there was not

Speaker 2 no reason to do so, but Hunter Biden doesn't even get a quick mention in the paper.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, did he deserve it? Did he deserve it? I mean, honestly,

Speaker 3 one more question.

Speaker 2 Maybe they just don't care about Hunter Biden because he was just joking. I mean,

Speaker 2 obviously, McNeil,

Speaker 2 there's no excuse for that. But Hunter was jokingly using it as a friendly nickname.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, to be consistent here, Glenn, in December of 2020, all the way back, how old were you in December of 2020?

Speaker 2 The New York Times

Speaker 2 ran a front page story about a random cheerleader in Virginia who posted a

Speaker 2 three-second

Speaker 2 video where she was excited about getting her learner's permit to get her car and said, I can drive N-ward,

Speaker 2 jokingly to her friends. She wasn't targeting any African-American in this circumstance.
And I should also mention she was a freshman in high school who was absolutely not a public figure in any way.

Speaker 2 Why was that covered? They didn't put this on the front page.

Speaker 2 They did. They didn't put it on the front page.
They did put it on the front page. They put it on the front page of the paper.

Speaker 2 And by the way, she,

Speaker 2 part of this whole story, and they weren't the only one who covered it, but the part of the story is she had to, she lost her role.

Speaker 2 She kicked off the cheerleading team in college as she was going into college and had to withdraw from from college entirely because of all the harassment and everything else associated with her three-second video she had made four years prior.

Speaker 2 She said she did not, you know, she was 16, 15, 16 years old. She did not understand, you know, really the word.
She said, it's in every song that they play on the radio.

Speaker 2 And I know that's not an excuse, but like, I just didn't understand the consequence of it. And she's still getting tortured for this today.
Well, she's old enough. She was old enough.

Speaker 2 She was old enough to know better. Hunter is still a child.
He's still a child. So what do we learn here?

Speaker 2 We've learned that,

Speaker 2 well,

Speaker 2 that everyone's equal. Just some animals are more equal than others.
I think that's what we learned here.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 why would anybody take the mainstream media seriously at all? Why would anyone take any of this wokeness seriously at all? It is nothing but political correctness.

Speaker 2 And I think we're all starting to understand what political correctness means. You know, there's only one thing to say to that, Glenn.
True dat N-word.

Speaker 2 Well, we're still searching for the penis.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 They always find it, Glenn. They always find it.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 this is the best of the Glen Beck program.

Speaker 2 Okay, yesterday,

Speaker 2 I played one of my new heroes.

Speaker 2 She's a mom addressing the school board in New York. I want you to hear just a little bit of what she had to say to the school board.

Speaker 4 I think the Board of Education and those sitting on the panels are thieves.

Speaker 4 I think they're liars and have committed treason against our children.

Speaker 4 My message to this district and the members of the Board of Ed,

Speaker 4 stop indoctrinating our children. You're teaching my children and other children that if they believe in God Almighty, they're part of a cult.

Speaker 4 These educators put their own names out there.

Speaker 4 We have Mr. Barry who took it upon himself with Ms.
Cyrus to create a curriculum.

Speaker 5 That should be it.

Speaker 4 Do you want the proof?

Speaker 6 I have the proof.

Speaker 4 You created a curriculum of Black Panther indoctrination. Ma'am.
You used taxpayers' dollars. Can I ask you one more time?

Speaker 4 I have no issue hearing what you have to say.

Speaker 4 Why can we not let the public speak? Why can't we let the public know that you're teaching our children to go out and murder our police officers? Do you want the proof? I have the proof.

Speaker 4 Is that what scares you, the proof? That a parent actually is standing up against all of you?

Speaker 4 Is that what scares you to call out the names names of these people?

Speaker 4 You work for me.

Speaker 4 I don't work for you. You have a duty.
We are entrusting our children to you.

Speaker 4 We teach our children morals, values when they grow up to commit crimes and end up in prison and kill a police officer. It's our fault? No, it's your fault.

Speaker 4 You're emotionally abusing our children and mentally abusing them. You're demoralizing them by teaching them communist values.
This is still America, ma'am.

Speaker 2 Her name is Tatiana Ibrahim, and she joins us now from New York. Hello, Tatiana.

Speaker 5 Yes, hi, how are you? Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 You bet. My wife and I watched, she watched you do this while we were just going to bed.
It was about midnight, and we were up for about an hour just talking about you.

Speaker 2 How's the blowback been from this? Because you were just a titan.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, I'm angrier. I'm more angrier now because I see that unfortunately we do have a very few

Speaker 5 people that, you know, in our community that are, you know, they're in denial. They're in denial.
And a new board member that's coming on who's actually pushing for this.

Speaker 5 But overall, very large. I mean, I can't tell you the amount of support that we have been receiving nationwide.
I mean, from Australia to Florida to California,

Speaker 5 so many moms and dads in New York, which is a great thing because, you know,

Speaker 2 but not in your community.

Speaker 2 Because I was shocked that I didn't hear anybody applaud that we're sitting there. They were all just like sitting there like stones, like, I'm not going to look at anybody.
It was weird.

Speaker 5 Yeah, actually, so I think I created the storm. They came out from the woodwork.
So I have a big, big support from my community. I actually do.

Speaker 5 You know, it's amazing. I didn't even know we had that many people in our county, the amount of support that

Speaker 5 they are giving us. We had over 300 people at our last board meeting,

Speaker 5 you know, just alone that are, they're fed up. They're fed up.
People are paying attention now. You know, it's opened a window.
It's opened their eyes and they're actually seeing what is going on.

Speaker 5 And it's got to stop. And it's going to stop because I'm not finished so when you were talking about

Speaker 2 when when when you talked about um

Speaker 2 you know I have the proof is this critical race theory or I mean the the Panther the Black Panthers bringing them in to talk about social justice and the police

Speaker 2 what was it that pushed you over the edge and what is it specifically that your town is doing

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 we have, you know, teachers and educators posting all over social media their personal agendas,

Speaker 5 trying to encourage students to

Speaker 5 read about Kicking Out the President or former President Trump.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 they're exposing themselves because there's never a repercussion against them. They're getting away with it.

Speaker 5 There's no policy in order in this district, you know, preventing teachers from exposing their personal beliefs. They're pushing their personal beliefs and thoughts on our children.

Speaker 5 They're going on social media.

Speaker 5 They're participating in Black Lives Matter rallies saying that their black students matter. Well, what about the other lives of your children? So no other life matters?

Speaker 5 I mean, do you know what division and animosity that causes children and confusion and hate?

Speaker 5 So you're basically.

Speaker 2 So have you had, have

Speaker 2 the kids come home, your kids come home and talked about this? And have you had problems with kids in the school? Your kids.

Speaker 5 So yeah, so so my daughter was very confused. She couldn't understand, you know, well, I'm friends with this one and I'm friends with that one.

Speaker 5 And so why are we, you know, mom, you and dad are always telling me to, you know, love the police and go to them if we need help and, you know, to respect them.

Speaker 5 But they're killing black people and my friends are black. And I says, whoa, whoa, whoa, where are you getting this from? you know, and she started opening up and I started talking to her friends.

Speaker 5 And her friends come from different, you know, ethnicities and backgrounds and races and they the the amount of support from them and their families you know and my daughter was surprised and i said why would you be surprised well they're black so what does that mean because they're black they can't agree they can't feel away because the school is teaching them that if you're black or you know if you're you're they call them minorities that they're not allowed to think they're not allowed to feel they're not allowed to have their own opinion that's racism and that's not what we're looking for in this community.

Speaker 2 You're also caught in a very weird

Speaker 2 place because you are a you're a Christian. Your husband is a Muslim.

Speaker 2 Christians can be slaughtered and nobody will say anything. Muslims are not supposed to be outside of the, you know, the Democratic Party line.

Speaker 2 And what does your husband, what's your husband say about this?

Speaker 5 My husband is furious. You know,

Speaker 5 even our background, I mean, our ethnicity,

Speaker 5 my race,

Speaker 5 I haven't revealed what I am because I'm just sitting back and I'm laughing at this because they're assuming what I am and they have no idea where I come from, my ethnical background.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 They're assuming you're white.

Speaker 5 Yes. They're assuming I'm white.

Speaker 2 That's correct.

Speaker 5 And I'm not white. So I'm just, I'm letting them play it out, you know, even with the name calling of homophobic.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's funny because the closest person to me in my life, they don't even know who she's married to. And that's, this is what, this is why I say

Speaker 5 they're telling us to be tolerant and acceptant, not to judge, but they're judging. They're judging and assuming that they have no idea.

Speaker 2 You know, I don't know if you've listened to yourself back on YouTube, but what I was fascinated by was how the school board was so dismissive of you. They all jumped in when

Speaker 2 you said, you work for me, I pay your salary. They all of them said,

Speaker 2 no, this is free.

Speaker 2 We don't take money. But they never jumped in fully throated when

Speaker 2 you were expressing what was going on in the school. They only said, shut her off, shut her down.

Speaker 2 Get her out. At one point, one of them said, we should all walk

Speaker 2 instead of listening to you. Who are the people that you were naming and what specifically did they do?

Speaker 5 So, Miss Cyrus and Mr. Berry, they are, Mr.
Berry's a principal in the eighth-grade middle school.

Speaker 5 Miss Cyrus is his assistant, print is the assistant principal who just recently came in about, I want to say, three years ago, when my daughter was leaving the school, middle school. And

Speaker 5 Mr.

Speaker 5 Miss, Miss, there is

Speaker 5 what other names I mentioned so many names um they those educators are the ones that created the curriculum they took it upon themselves to create a color a curriculum the books that they're bringing in are books it's called one crazy summer and it's about you know the black panthers and talking about racist white pigs cops

Speaker 5 In one of the books, one of the little black girls has a doll that is a blonde-haired, green-eyed, very pale skinned doll and that it's you shouldn't have a doll like that if you're a black child because it's it's making the black child feel less of what they are I'm so so now the child is going to look at a white as at a blonde hair white girl with green eyes like my daughter because that's what she looks like as a racist or as something bad

Speaker 5 and children don't see color They don't see color. You know, we have a new board member coming in who is to hate you.

Speaker 5 Exactly. They're taught to hate.
And this community is a very large, populated police community. We have a lot of blue-collar community members, firemen, construction workers.
We work very hard.

Speaker 5 We all have morals and respect for one another. Now, whether you agree or not with us, it shouldn't be about us.
It's about our children.

Speaker 5 What made me laugh was the board members are saying, yes,

Speaker 5 we don't get a salary.

Speaker 5 So that means your work is volunteer. So then you don't have anything to lose if you stand up for what's right.
So that means you're just pure evil and you don't care about our children, right?

Speaker 5 Because you don't have a job to lose.

Speaker 5 You're not losing a salary if you stand up.

Speaker 2 It is

Speaker 2 you're dealing, you seem to be fighting with some people in the background, but seemingly alone. I urge you to join one of the groups, at least on Facebook,

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 are fighting this because

Speaker 2 you need more people around you.

Speaker 2 You need some help.

Speaker 2 And I think you're doing a great job. And go ahead.

Speaker 5 Yeah. We have, Glenn.
Actually, we have

Speaker 5 352 different organizations around New York. Those are just that moms have been reaching out to me.

Speaker 5 We have been uniting. It has been non-stop.
Amount of support is unbelievable.

Speaker 5 My community, um, including those that you know, um, that you wouldn't wouldn't believe, and it's not even political, it's not political because you have people on different political sides that are saying, hey, listen, we may not agree on politics, but I really agree with you on this because this is our children, they're they're they're hurting.

Speaker 5 I mean, how can you hurt a child? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 5 You know, and pushing all this, um, uh, the LGBTQIA community. Hey, listen, that's fine, but it does not give a teacher a right or an administrator a right to teach this.

Speaker 5 This is if they want someone to talk to the child, there should be someone available to talk to these children, to the child.

Speaker 5 But it should not be an entire lesson plan or an agenda or a propaganda against these children. Hitler did that.
That's what Hitler did, right?

Speaker 5 That's what Muslim terrorists

Speaker 2 do.

Speaker 5 They recruit children to do these things.

Speaker 2 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I have all of the books. I was just thinking about

Speaker 2 all of the teacher manuals that I have

Speaker 2 in our museum

Speaker 2 from

Speaker 2 the Nazis that were teaching the teachers how to teach. And it's very similar to what is going on right now.
Tatiana, thank you so much. How do people get in touch with you?

Speaker 2 Just through your Twitter handle?

Speaker 5 So my Twitter, there's also also a link that will link them to my website, my email, and my public Facebook.

Speaker 5 And we also have one page that says Parents Against Critical Race Theory.

Speaker 5 If they Google that on Facebook, they'll find that too, and they can join us and join the fight because this is a winning, we're going to win.

Speaker 5 It's going to be a fight, but we're going to win. And have to remember, people have to remember, vote no Tuesday for this, the monies that they're trying to use to indoctrinate children more.

Speaker 5 So have to vote no, keep shutting up.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 You can follow her on Twitter at Tatiana Ibrahim, T-A-T-I-A-N-A-I-B-R-A-H-I-M

Speaker 2 five. Tatiana Ibrahim five on Twitter.
Thank you so much, Tatiana. We'll talk again.

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Speaker 2 Poplitix. That's in some ways, I think that's

Speaker 2 no, it's not. Everything in pop culture has been turned political, so there's no pop left in it, I think.
Alex Clark is with us. She is the host of Poplitix

Speaker 2 and a contributor to Turning Point USA. Welcome, Alex.
How are you?

Speaker 6 Hi. Thank you so much for having me, Glenn.
I'm so excited to be here. I grew up listening to you.

Speaker 2 Wow. Now,

Speaker 2 well, thank you very much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I wish I was in studio to greet you there myself.
I know we have a couple of guests coming up today that are actually in the studio, and I'm sorry I couldn't be there with you.

Speaker 2 So first of all, tell me what it is that you do because I think it's really important and very different than anybody else.

Speaker 6 Thank you. So, I created a show that covers pop culture through a conservative perspective with Turning Point USA, and it mainly lives on Instagram.
It's a very visual, graphic-heavy show.

Speaker 6 And I just break down the entertainment news of the day and the top pop culture stories, but I just don't include any of the leftist propaganda in it.

Speaker 6 So, I call out celebrities when they do stupid stuff, and we have a lot of fun doing it. It's very pink, and

Speaker 6 it's really targeting a very

Speaker 2 pink.

Speaker 6 It's targeting a young female audience. We have an over 75% young female audience.
These are young conservative women between the ages of 18 and 34.

Speaker 2 So what was your turning point? Because I know

Speaker 2 you were part of Indianapolis, the big morning show there, number one for a lot of years. I think right after Bob and Tom left, right?

Speaker 6 Correct. Yeah, one of them left, Bob or Tom, I can't remember which.
One of them left. And so

Speaker 6 we ended up taking the top spot there for a couple of years. And it was incredible.
And I think part of the reason was, is that I was very open about my conservative beliefs.

Speaker 6 The problem was, and I think that was interesting to people on the show with being a pop morning radio show. And everyone else on my show had the polar opposite beliefs.

Speaker 6 But then it started to become, I think, my radio company started feeling like I was a liability.

Speaker 6 And I think I started to scare them a little bit because people were sending in complaints to the FCC saying that I was a threat to their children because I said I was an NRA member on the air.

Speaker 6 So, you know, it started to get interesting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I'm going to shoot your children over the radio. Yeah.
I mean, your children are going to be with you, and I'm in this studio, but I'm going to shoot them.

Speaker 2 What an idiot.

Speaker 2 So what was the turning point? Was the turning point was that just motivated you to get out of radio and start your own thing?

Speaker 6 Well, I started to kind of realize that, okay, I can either keep moving up in radio. I know I have a good trajectory in this industry, but I'm going to have to start censoring my beliefs on air.

Speaker 6 There's no way that I'm going to survive in this format, being an outspoken, young, conservative woman.

Speaker 6 And so I started thinking, man, I wish that I could host a show where I could talk pop culture because I love that part of what I do, but also talk about being conservative.

Speaker 6 And I just had no idea where I could do that.

Speaker 6 And so right when I was debating that, I actually started seeing ads online for Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Conference. This was in 2018.

Speaker 6 And so I went and I saw all these amazing female contributors that were conservative that I look up to, that were going to be speaking. And I just went on my own.
I didn't know a soul there.

Speaker 6 And when I heard people like Judge Janine speak, Dana Lash speak, all these people that I really look up to, I was like, I got to do this. I got to get out of here.

Speaker 6 And so I started really thinking about it. And it was.
only a few months later that Turning Point USA DM'd me on Instagram and they said, hey, Alex, we're really big fans of what you do.

Speaker 6 We'd love to fly you out to our headquarters in Phoenix, just talk to you. And I said, this is my moment.

Speaker 6 And they had no idea that I wanted to host a show like politics but I just said it I said hey I want to want to find somewhere where I can host a show covering pop culture as a conservative and they said oh my gosh we love this idea let's get you out here and let's talk about it and that's how politics was born that is I will tell you how how different the world is 20 years uh 20 years down the road.

Speaker 2 Stu was with me when I had the same thing when I was like, I'm a conservative and I want to talk about things that are meaningful because I think things are headed towards trouble.

Speaker 2 And I just gave up because there was no place to go there was really no place to go if you wanted to do pop culture stuff uh and uh stu would listen to me and i was just dead inside i was like you know britney spears playing britney spears and i was like and that's uh what's her face with that super super classic and then i would talk about whatever i wanted to talk about which was shocking i think for the audience and i had to go into talk radio and it was really hard how long did we work on that stupid four years yeah oh yeah i mean many many years We still don't know how to figure it out.

Speaker 2 We still don't know what we're doing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, we have no idea what we're doing, but it took us a few years to con somebody into thinking that we knew what we were doing.

Speaker 6 Well, before going to Turning Point, I shopped my idea around to conservative talk radio, and everybody said, I'm so sorry, I think this is a great idea, but in conservative talk radio, you're an anomaly.

Speaker 6 There's no way that a young audience, there's a young audience out there that wants to hear pop culture, that would listen to talk radio.

Speaker 2 And I said, you're absolutely wrong.

Speaker 6 And no one believed me. And so I just knew, I said, there's a huge audience for this.
And then when I created politics, it spurred this massive, what I call the conservative movement.

Speaker 6 And so now I have all these young girls that are obsessed with the show and obsessed with hearing pop culture without this leftist propaganda.

Speaker 6 And it's the first show of its kind in the conservative movement.

Speaker 2 Well, I wish I would have, I wish you would have come to me because I would have put you on the blaze because I think that is absolutely what the conservative movement is missing. I think

Speaker 2 that we

Speaker 2 think one way and we think we, you know, because we

Speaker 2 believe in something and we use logic to say, okay,

Speaker 2 this works, this doesn't, so let's save this one and let's get rid of that.

Speaker 2 And we dismiss art and we dismiss pop culture. And if you're not in pop culture, you lose.
You lose because that's really what's driving almost everything.

Speaker 6 Absolutely.

Speaker 6 And, you know, the thing is, is that so many of these young people, when you're you're thinking about college-age kids, a lot of them do identify as leftists, but then there's a huge group of them that are just apolitical.

Speaker 6 They say, oh, I don't like politics. So they don't consume any political shows.
But the one thing that they all consume is pop culture. They're scrolling on Twitter.

Speaker 6 They're on Instagram. They're watching their favorite YouTube stars.
Of course, they're following celebrities.

Speaker 6 So they are consuming political news and propaganda, but they don't realize it because they think it's pop culture. So what I do is I kind of reach out and I call it cotton candy conservatism.

Speaker 6 It's very non-aggressive, it's fun. You know, they want to hear about Chris Harrison, they want to hear about Kylie Jenner.
And so, they'll watch my show.

Speaker 6 And then, in there, I'm talking about, hey, by the way, let me tell you about what a scam Black Lives Matter is.

Speaker 6 You know, so then they're like, Whoa, okay, well, I guess I'm listening to this because I also want to find out what Kylie Jenner did.

Speaker 6 So, it's a really good, easy way to kind of red pill people without them knowing that they're getting red pilled.

Speaker 2 Can I tell you something? That is exactly how this show started. Stu, doesn't it? Sound like us? This is this is what This is exactly what we did.

Speaker 2 We came in making fun of talk radio and not talking about all of the heavy stuff. And then, unfortunately, after 9-11 and then Fox,

Speaker 2 that all kind of washed out.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 you are 100% right. Do not listen to anyone who tells you that there isn't a huge market for what you're doing.
So let me get a couple of ideas from you first.

Speaker 2 Chris Harrison, his run as the bachelor ended. I just read this week that he has the goods on ABC, and he was demanding, he makes $5 million a year, $25 million as an exit fee.

Speaker 6 As he should. Did he get it?

Speaker 6 I don't know the exact number, but it was eight figures. So I assume, yes.

Speaker 6 So I am just blown away by this whole situation. I wish that he wouldn't have.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 6 He would be a superstar right now, and he could absolutely, he could have done a dating show with Turning Point USA, he could have done one with Daily Wire, with The Blaze.

Speaker 6 He had all these opportunities, but the thing that I'm so upset with Chris Harrison about is, is that he bowed to the mob because what happened was there was a girl in the bachelor who went to some antebellum party in college.

Speaker 6 And I don't know, I don't know what that is. I didn't, I didn't grow up in the South.
I grew up in the Midwest. I'm an Indiana girl.
I'm a Hoosier.

Speaker 6 So I guess in college, they go to these antebellum parties. that are like old South.
They dress up. And so pictures of her in college in 2018 came out.

Speaker 6 And of course, everybody everybody called her racist Well this girl Rachel Kirk Connell was on a season with the first black bachelor Matt James So she's on a season with a black bachelor and everyone's saying she's racist because she went to an old south party Chris Harrison the host of all you know since 2002 of ABC's The Bachelor franchise says hey crazy idea here What if we don't hold it against her that she was just a college student celebrating a party that's been done for years and years and years.

Speaker 6 I'm sure she, you know, wasn't meaning it to be racist or

Speaker 6 ill-intended at all. And we just forgive her.
And we just let, also, she hadn't spoken at that point and given a statement. He said, what if we just give her a chance to say something?

Speaker 6 The problem is he said this to Rachel Lindsay, who is also the first former bachelorette, black bachelorette. And she is as, she is critical race theory as a person.
I mean, that's who this girl is.

Speaker 6 She is such a social justice warrior. So because he had

Speaker 6 the kahunas to say this to Rachel Lindsay, like, crazy idea, why don't we forgive this girl who happens to be white? And this girl, the host that he was interviewing with happened to be black.

Speaker 6 They said, Chris Harrison now has to be canceled because he told a black woman that we should forgive this white girl for going to an old South party. And so that is what we're doing.

Speaker 2 He kind of put himself in a corner where you can't, nobody on the right would hire him now because he bowed and who cares about it now.

Speaker 2 And nobody on the left is going to hire him because he is, he's an untouchable. It's like he has social leprosy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, exactly. So that's why he wants all this money.
Also, because he's been with the franchise since 2002, he has all the dirt on ABC.

Speaker 6 So what I am predicting is going to happen, I think he's going to make a ton of money on a tell-all book.

Speaker 6 I think he's going to show the receipts on how ABC is not as woke as they claim to be and show all their dirty laundry. And it is going to be amazing, and I am here for it.

Speaker 2 Even after the eight figures,

Speaker 2 it still happens. Oh, I think.
Yeah, if you don't think that's a good thing.

Speaker 6 But he's probably under a, I'm sure Didny signed an NBA for a certain amount of of time.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he, I'm telling you, I know ABC Disney.
I've seen their contracts. I've been under one of their contracts.
You don't say anything

Speaker 2 if you are out and you sign a release form. You are bound to sign.
I mean, it is like the CIA looks like loudmouths compared to Disney. This is one of those things, too.

Speaker 2 This story, I think, is really amazing in that, to me, it strikes me as almost the best, most pure example of cancel culture I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 Gina Carano, I think, is in competition for that title as well. But he did nothing.
He asked for grace for someone, and he has this happen to him.

Speaker 2 His apology and her apology of the apology were so agonizing, though. They immediately go to this, I'm so sorry, I didn't understand.
Stand up for yourself. It was like a hostage video.
Yes.

Speaker 2 He was. It is remarkable.

Speaker 2 I have found myself not feeling bad for him after

Speaker 2 the apology.

Speaker 6 That's the thing. You want to feel bad, but you kind of don't because you're like, dude, why? Like, have a backbone.
That's the thing.

Speaker 6 What happened to people having spines? Why are we so scared of these people? I don't understand. Their arguments are garbage.
They're literal racists. Why do we care what they think?

Speaker 6 He should have thrown the men fingers up and said bye.

Speaker 2 I love you.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I have to ask if this is true. There are rumors that Kim Kardashian, you ready for this, Stu? I don't know if you've heard this, and Van Jones are dating.

Speaker 2 Really? Yeah. That's an interesting couple.
Is that true?

Speaker 6 They've been going, the rumors have been going around since Kim Kardashian and Kanye West kind of announced that they were on the rocks and right before they announced their divorce even.

Speaker 6 And you know what?

Speaker 6 I'm not a Van Jones fan, obviously, but I don't hate it. And here's why.
If you think about this, Kanye West, conservative, Christian, she's not. Van Jones is more on her level.

Speaker 6 They also are both very passionate about prison reform.

Speaker 6 And they were both champions of that.

Speaker 6 And even when she was meeting with the president, Van Jones, on prison reform, Van Jones was the only person on CNN to stand up for Kim Kardashian and say, guys, this is an amazing cause.

Speaker 6 Everything that President Trump has done for prison reform has been unbelievable. It's something we've always wanted.
Why are you guys giving her crap over this?

Speaker 6 Like, you would want to be her if you were in her position. So, he was the only one to stand up for her.
So, honestly, I can kind of see it.

Speaker 6 You know, but

Speaker 6 I think that they could end up being a power couple. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing Kim.
I know that Kanye's already kind of put in his hat for the

Speaker 6 hat in the ring for the White House, but I wouldn't be surprised if one day we see Kim do that. I think she's kind of revamping her image to really get into the political sphere seriously.

Speaker 2 Let me just take a break here just for a second and just say this: Dear Lord, please help us. If Kim Kardashian is even serious, a serious choice for people, we're doomed and we know it.

Speaker 2 We need your help in Jesus' name. We pray.
Amen. Alex Clark is with us.
She is the host of Poplitix and contributor for Turning Point USA.

Speaker 2 She's actually in town because you're going to be speaking at the Young Women's Leadership Conference from Turning Point. Are you not?

Speaker 6 Yes, actually, I opened yesterday. I got to open with Charlie Kirk Kirk himself, and it was incredible.

Speaker 6 And we have huge life-size Barbie boxes on stage that we got to stand in and pose like a doll. Can you believe Charlie Kirk posing like Barbie? It was so great.

Speaker 6 The whole conference is pink and purple. And so I got to open and I spoke first, and I talked about how Barbie is definitely, she would be a capitalist.

Speaker 6 She has the freedom to be all these different jobs that Barbie has. And so the theme of the conference is capitalist Barbie for all these young women.

Speaker 6 All 50 states are represented, even some other countries. We have over 2,500 young conservative women there.

Speaker 6 It's the largest all-women conservative conference of its kind, and it's just absolutely electrifying.

Speaker 2 She might even be, Barbie might even be more than a capitalist. She may be almost a grotesque capitalist.
I mean, she had a Malibu house before anybody ever knew that that was the thing to have.

Speaker 2 I mean, she had it all. She had it all.
Pink Jeep, pink convertible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I couldn't go deeper than the Malibu House.

Speaker 2 The speakers that are speaking this weekend,

Speaker 2 what is the main message that is being passed on? And what is it that these young women

Speaker 2 are being empowered to do? What is it that they want to do, do you think?

Speaker 6 Well, the majority of the girls that are in audience at this conference are high school and college age.

Speaker 6 So I think the main thing is that we're hoping that all these different speakers, we have everyone from Laura Trump, Judge Janine yesterday,

Speaker 6 to we have Kayleigh McInenney coming,

Speaker 6 we're hoping that they're going to go back on their campuses at school or our young professional, I call them career servatives, that they're going to go back into their workplace, in their office, and they're going to be empowered to talk about loud and proud about their conservative values.

Speaker 6 And so it's really empowering them. They're being around other people like them.
They're seeing that they're not alone.

Speaker 6 And that's the main thing is that one of the easiest, you know, the best tactics that the left has against young conservative women is that they make us feel like we are totally alone.

Speaker 6 And so we don't want to speak up and share that we are conservative because we think no one else is.

Speaker 6 And when they're in a conference room full of thousands of other women just like them, they see that that's not the case.

Speaker 6 And they are so pumped to go back into their life after this weekend and share the truth about who conservatives really are.

Speaker 2 That is so great. Stu, would you take Alex for a quick tour of the museum after the show if you have time or have somebody do that Next door,

Speaker 2 we have things next door at our Mercury One Museum that I think

Speaker 2 you have my permission to go access at any time. It's an amazing collection of American items that you might want to use

Speaker 2 in your career. Anyway, you can follow Alex at RealAlex Clark, RealAlexClark or

Speaker 2 Poplitix.

Speaker 2 Both of those are on Instagram. You can follow her there.
You can also find out more information at tpusa.com. Alex, let's talk again.
Thanks.

Speaker 6 Thanks, Glenn.