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A lot of comedy,

and then a lot of really scare yourself till you crap your pants kind of news that you don't want to miss.

Department of Homeland Security, what's happening with the Commission on January 6th, a lot more than you think.

Also, what the American Medical Association and now what the American Psychiatric Association is telling doctors and psychiatrists to include in all of their diagnoses.

The door is coming closed quickly.

Also, we have the one and only Jason Whitlock joining us.

You don't want to miss a minute of today's podcast.

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The news today is disturbing, but I want you to know that this is all on the federal level.

To win, you must go to the local level.

And you need to stand in your own hometown and in your county.

Let me give you a reason why.

Top Top prosecutor in Loudoun County, Virginia has participated in the Facebook group whose members infamously created a list of parents who disagreed with the school system policies of critical race theory.

The intention of this Facebook group is to hack, infiltrate, I'm quoting, hack, infiltrate, and expose parents.

And this is all according to screenshots.

March 16th, this was exposed.

And now the anti-racist racist parents of Loudoun County have doubled down.

And now they appear to be going after children and gathering information of children of at least one adult.

There is the group administrator who is saying, hey, anyone else with racist TikToks of kids, please PM me, especially more with the N-word.

Okay, all right.

Another member responded to that post saying, we have to fight this S together.

That's when the county's top prosecutor chimed in and said, exactly,

you are where we need you.

What?

You are where we need you.

The top prosecutor is getting involved with this and is in support of the hackers and people who are trying to expose.

You need to stand up together.

You know, I read a story today that people are concerned that

liberals are starting to worry about all this wokeness.

They're thinking this might play out badly because a lot of people don't like it, and it'll play out badly in the next election.

Forget about the election.

It's playing out badly for all humankind if we continue to go down this road.

One more thing, then we bring Pat Gray in to talk about ATF.

Try this one on.

The TSA

began implementing President Biden's mask mandate at airports.

It has now been extended through September 13th, 2021.

The senior official performing the duties of Transportation Security Administration's administrator confirmed yesterday, quote, that TSA agents must handle mask mandate violations in airports the same way they would treat travelers trying to take firearms through security checkpoints.

Now, listen to me if you're a cop.

Please listen to me if you're a cop.

I understand why you would want to walk away.

I get it.

I get it.

But if you walk away, if you walk away, you're going to leave us with a police force that is like the TSA.

There's a lot of great people in the TSA.

I meet them at airports all the time that are doing their jobs, but I also meet an equal amount of just dumb, dumb dummies.

who are

shouldn't work the fry a lator.

Honest to God, they might fry their own own hands or face.

What happened to my hand?

I'm going to look.

They shouldn't work a friolator.

They don't care.

Please stay in place.

You cannot abandon that post because it's going to get bad if

we have that half of the TSA being our police force, we're in real trouble.

By the way, the good news is we won't have any guns.

I love the new, I love the new ATF guy.

How about he great?

Yeah, he's fine.

He's fine.

He's great.

Yeah.

I particularly liked him with posing for a selfie in front of the destruction at Waco after

91 people were killed there.

That was really cool for him to stand in front of that wreckage and take a little selfie.

He was proud of it, I guess.

Yeah, well, you know,

it was a lantern, you know?

Yeah, right.

So McCleary's cow kicked over a lantern.

And that's how they all died.

It had nothing to do with Janet Reno.

Just horrific.

And,

you know, but I think it's great to see the backlash from the left on that, you know.

Oh, they're upset.

Oh, they've got to be upset.

I mean, he's standing there with, you know, it's, you know, I know how they respond when somebody kills a lion.

Right, right.

You know what I mean?

They kill a lion and everybody goes crazy.

It was like a trophy pose.

It really was.

Despicable.

Okay, so

let me play some of the audio.

Let me just play Cruz

with Chipman.

Does he plan on banning AR-15s?

Listen to this.

The AR-15 is one of, if not the most popular rifle in America.

It's not a machine gun.

It's a rifle.

Your public position is that you want to ban AR-15s.

Is that correct?

Senator, thank you for the question.

And thank you for our visit yesterday and offering you Dr.

Pepper.

It made me reminisce about my time in Central Texas.

But now to your question.

With respect to the AR-15, I support a ban as

has been presented in a Senate bill and supported by the President.

The AR-15 is a gun I was issued on ATF's SWAT team, and it's a particularly lethal weapon and regulating it as other particularly lethal weapons

like a Smith Wesson 380.

That's not particularly lethal.

That's only a director if I'm confirmed.

I would simply enforce the laws and the books.

And right now,

I'm just going to follow the lawsuit ban on those guns.

All right.

Here's how he.

Well, first of all, cut seven, please.

He can't seem to identify or define an assault weapon.

Listen to this.

I got 35 seconds left.

Define it for me.

Would you please, sir?

What's an assault weapon?

Yeah, Senator,

the bill to ban assault weapons is

dozens of pages.

There's no way I could define an assault weapon.

You're going to run this agency and you don't have a definition of assault weapon?

But I would be enforcing the definition that members of the US are...

I'm not going to be issuing rules and regulations.

Just give me your definition.

I'll give you one definition that ATF currently.

Give me your definition.

One definition that ATF currently is.

Give me your definition.

I can give you one definition.

Listen to it.

Forget about this.

Okay, so he doesn't answer it.

Now, listen to this.

Here's when he finally defines an assault weapon.

There are not criminal consequences.

I want to turn to a second matter now, Mr.

Chipman.

You have called for an assault weapons ban.

I have a simple question for you.

What is an assault weapon?

Senator, an assault weapon would be, in the context of the question you asked, what Congress defines it as.

Oh.

So you're asking us to ban assault weapons.

We have to write legislation.

Can you tell me what is an assault weapon?

How would you define it if you were the head of the ATF?

How have you defined it over the last several years as your role as a government?

Listen to this.

Senator, if I am confirmed as ATF director,

my recollection is the only

process by which ATF is weighed in is that I know there is a demand letter 3 program which requires multiple reports, multiple sale reports on the southwestern border and ATF in that program has defined an assault rifle as any semi-automatic rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine above the caliber of 22 which would include a 223 which is you know largely the AR-15 round

that would also include Every handgun that is semi-automatic because it's a detachable magazine.

It feeds into the gun, all right?

You know much more about guns than I do, but he said rifle, right?

Would a handgun be a rifle?

If you're defining it based on its feeding from a magazine underneath, he did say rifle.

But that would include then, if you just want to look just at rifles, that would include the gun we used in World War I.

World War I.

I had a really rough boating accident recently

where my boat flipped over.

I had all my guns, and they all went to the bottom of a very deep lake, and I think into a cave or something.

We looked at the bottom of the lake, could not find trace of them.

But at one point, I did have a gun that was sort of like on the AR-15 sort of platform that was technically a handgun.

So, would that be concluded in this ban?

I think it would.

Yes, it would.

And I would feel for you because

I had my guns because I was doing some investigation in a cave, too.

I was over in Wuhan just a few months ago.

And I

accidentally dropped all of my guns.

Oh, my gosh.

And they just kept, I just heard them going,

oh, my gosh.

It's probably very deep.

Oh, my God.

My guns.

Wow.

Guns, I...

And then I heard

all the bats started coming, and I was like, I got to get out of here.

So, all my guns are in China.

You were able to transport your guns to the Communist Republic of China.

Wow.

It wasn't easy.

It wasn't easy.

That's impressive.

It wasn't easy.

That's impressive.

Not sure why you'd ask a question like that.

Sounds like a bad question.

It does.

It does seem like a bad question that only an enemy of the state would ask.

Exactly right.

Only someone who has guns, perhaps, in a safe.

No, no.

You had guns on it.

I know I had a boating accident on a lake.

You had a boating accident.

Yeah, I killed a

cave accident.

I just had a boating accident.

Yeah, yeah, I know it was just a deep body of water, and I do so much fishing, you know, and I always take my guns with me.

So I don't remember what body of water I was on.

I just remember losing the guns over the edge of the boat.

Did you call somebody?

I didn't because I lost my phone that same time and had to get a new one.

It's terrible.

And you figured they're down at the bottom of the lake, so nobody's going to get them.

Nobody's going to get them.

No reason.

And it might have not been a lake.

It might have been the ocean.

Might have been the ocean.

It might have been the ocean.

Yeah, so they could have been swallowed by a whale.

I don't know.

You can't remember if you were inland or on the coast.

I can't.

I can't.

I can't remember.

Okay.

No.

Right.

It's an interesting.

I lost it in a boating accident.

As you've mentioned a few times, I'll bet you if they,

if you replaced the metal portion of an AR-15 with the wood paneling that, you know, like is on a hunting rifle, they wouldn't have any problem with these.

With these.

No, the average person wouldn't.

The average person wouldn't.

However, what he just defined is a, and I don't remember somebody in the audience will know, but it is a gun that we used in World War I.

I think we used it in World War II.

And it feeds from below, and it's a wood panel.

You know, it's like a

Plymouth Woody.

It's got the wood paneling on the sides.

And it's semi-automatic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it feeds

from the bottom.

It seems like whatever definition they come up with.

I'm pretty sure that's semi-automatic.

Now you're saying that, now maybe you do have to cock it.

Yeah, I wonder.

Yeah.

The bottom line is they're going to be banning a lot of guns that, number one, we won't like.

Number two, they can't actually ban because it's unconstitutional.

So notice what he said here, and this is the most important thing.

This is Woodrow Wilson.

And by the way, I believe there is a coming announcement of a president that is going to do do more damage to the United States of America than Woodrow Wilson.

I think that announcement is coming from this program soon.

But

this is what Woodrow Wilson did.

Did you notice how he answered the question?

I don't define it.

I, you know, the agency defines it.

I just, I go with what the agency defines.

It's not, that senator was wrong.

It's not what the Senate says.

The Senate will put in charge the agency of the ATF, and the ATF will define everything.

That's the way this all works.

So there's no one ever to really pin on.

He doesn't have to answer that question because really it's in the agency and the agency does that.

Because technically, right,

he can't write a bill, right?

The ATF guy cannot say, okay, this is what I think it is, which is what the technicality he's holding out on there.

Correct.

And

it is like Obamacare.

Remember when we went through Obamacare, how many times it said, we'll be left up to the secretary's discretion?

Yeah.

That's the way all of this is done.

There is another,

this is an out-in-the-open shadow government.

It is not one that is secretive.

It's called the cabinet.

Right.

So he says, I can't answer this because Congress has to define it.

And then Congress says the way we define it is how the ATF says it should be defined.

Right.

And so then eventually he winds up being a big part of that decision-making process anyway, and no one having to deal with it before it gets corrected.

Correct.

And the Senate doesn't have to deal with it.

Nobody has to deal with it.

There's never anybody responsible for these things.

And that is the thing that everyone should be concentrating on.

What is it they're doing at the cabinet level?

That's the other hand.

Back in a minute.

Thank you, Pat Gray, for joining us.

Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed, a great podcast you can hear every day live before this program on the Blaze Radio Network.

Also, you can hear them wherever you get your podcasts.

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I think it's, yeah, WWE in just a minute.

Yeah, yeah, I'm taking them on.

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All right, I told you a week ago

that the American Medical Association released a plan to embed racial justice into the medical profession.

This went beyond just saying, hey, you know, we need more black doctors, so we're going to lower the standards for people in medical school so they can be doctors.

Excuse me?

I know that meritocracy is something that only white people care about because I'm sure black people are like, no, I want the black doctor.

What, he got Fs in the surgery that he's going to give me?

That's okay.

He's black.

Bring him on in.

Nobody, nobody disagrees with meritocracy when your life is at stake.

So not only are they lowering the standards at schools for people of color,

but they're also,

they released a lengthy anti-racist plan, anti-racist plan.

And their new initiatives are going to end embedded racial, or they're going to embed racial justice to rid ourselves of

racist people.

And apparently doctors.

I guess doctors are very, very racist.

They have an 86-page document that outlines a three-year plan to implement anti-racist initiatives, including pushing critical race theory through the medical community.

Now, what, Stu, what could possibly be a problem with that?

What could possibly be the problem with critical race theory with your doctor?

Well, it seems like then you'd be able to define people who didn't agree with critical race theory as having a medical or psychological problem.

Well, no, we're talking about the medical field.

We're talking about the medical field.

And, you know, so I guess they might have a medical problem, sure, but you'd need a psychiatrist to deem them as having a

mental problem.

That's true.

If that happened, I would be more worried.

You'd be more worried.

Yeah.

I mean, the medical thing is.

The medical thing is disturbing because you could say, hey, for equity purposes, you white person don't get the treatment that person does.

Right.

Right?

That could be bad.

That could be bad.

That could lead to a death list.

You know what I mean?

where you're you're you're making lists of who dies who doesn't based on what i guess race race i mean and we've the thing about this is of course we've seen this in history and i thought we all agreed it was really a bad idea really bad to give preferential treatment to people for medical uh causes not as race no no china's the new model um so you were saying you were you would be worried if it i would say it would be you know it would be another whole nother step in the wrong direction if if it was psychiatrists.

Like the APA, like the American Psychiatric Association, if they came out and said, which they did yesterday,

the largest psychiatric organization in the world

sent an email to their members yesterday that psychiatrists need to incorporate anti-racism into their practice.

The email encouraged psychiatrists to commit themselves to practice anti-racism with their patients and restated its commitment to achieving mental health equity for all.

Anti-racism, of course, you know this from the brilliant Ibram X.

Kendi

and his book, How to Be an Anti-Racist.

And really, the only way to rid racists and racism from the world is racism.

That's the actual idea.

He says the word discrimination.

He advocates for discrimination.

He doesn't use the word racism, of course.

But I kind of put those on the same plane.

So mental health professionals were given suggestions for steps to center racial equity in all their conversations with their patients.

Why is this a problem?

Why is this a problem?

First of all, because it's not true.

Critical race theory is something that Marxists made up

to overthrow the Western world and freedom.

That's what critical race theory is.

Period.

There's no scientific anything backing up critical race theory.

It was created by Marxists so Marxists could silence those who were against Marxism.

That's it.

That's it.

So now

they're going to embed it into the medical side and the psychiatric side of medicine.

What could possibly go wrong?

Well, unfortunately for me, and unfortunately maybe for you, I know history.

So I'll tell you

what could go wrong.

Do you know who the biggest

advocate and professional body was

that did more to bring on the Holocaust and the death camps than any other profession in Nazi Germany?

Doctors and nurses.

More German medical professionals

joined the Nazi Party than any other profession, and they also joined it at a faster clip.

By 1933,

more than half of the German medical profession had joined the Nazi Party.

And they were the ones that were pushing, we got to get rid of the unfit.

We got to get rid of the people who are just not good for for the Reich.

They were the ones.

You do not want your medical professionals at all

judging anything regarding politics.

Doctors in Germany became tightly integrated into the Nazi Party and supportive of its ideals.

Physicians became Nazified more thoroughly and sooner than any other profession.

And they also did more

to

the final solution than anyone else.

By

1942, 38,000 physicians had joined the Nazi party.

Here's how it happened.

Now see if any of these ring any kind of a bell.

Now, before I go down this road, I want to say, just because history,

when we go through all of these things and you see one or two that might be happening now, that doesn't mean you're going to end in a death camp.

It just means you're on exactly the same road.

So warning,

bridge

may be icy.

It doesn't mean the bridge is always icy.

It just means if the conditions are right, you could find yourself flying off the side of the bridge because of ICE.

See if any of these things sound familiar.

The things that had to happen in the medical field for them to go off the bridge and into the Holocaust.

First, the devaluation and dehumanization of segments of the community.

Think that's happening?

Is that happening at all?

What are we going to do with these people?

These people just need to be re-educated.

They're extremists.

Remember when you couldn't say that about Muslims who were actually terrorists?

You couldn't say it about actual terrorists.

Now, it's fine to say that about half of America.

The devaluation and dehumanization of segments of the community.

The medicalization of social and political problems.

What does that mean?

The medicalization of social and political problems?

You mean like adding critical race theory and anti-racism into the medical professions?

The trainings of physicians to identify with political goals of the government.

So that would be like when they have trainings.

And they have training seminars and people like Ibram Kendi coming in and training.

Is that what that is?

Then they also needed the fear of consequences for refusing to cooperate.

Oh, well, that's not happening.

Then they just made the bureaucrats in charge of the medical system.

And when the bureaucrats

came in and just made everything a bureaucracy, the doctors needed to feel some power.

And they also started to weaken their ethics and human rights because it was all about numbers.

Then the Nazis, the Nazi physicians and nurses viewed the state as their primary patient.

Now listen to this one.

Some came to see quarantine,

otherwise known as ghettoization.

Some came to see quarantine,

exclusion,

then extermination of an entire people as treatment required so the state could survive.

Huh.

Quarantine, check.

Exclusion.

Facebook, everybody's betting him.

We check.

And then the extermination of an entire people as treatment required for state's health.

Ha, well, at least we haven't had extermination yet.

Doctors, I am pleading with you.

Do not allow this cancer in.

You must cut it out and get clean margins.

You would be a horrible doctor.

If you left one cancer cell in and were like, well, maybe that cancer cell won't grow.

You know what?

The skin knows better

than to let that reproduce and get out of control.

You know what?

I talked to, you know, I talked to the people.

I said, look, I left some colon cancer in there, a few cells, but

you're going to know it when it happens.

Don't worry about it.

Just come and see me and I'll take it out when it becomes a problem.

You wouldn't knowingly do that to someone unless you had no other option.

Critical race theory and anti-racism is anti-Martin Luther King

and anti-Judeo-Christian values.

You must not allow this to happen.

Nurses, you must not allow this to happen.

Psychiatrists,

you must not allow this to happen.

It's a firewall.

Read history.

Now,

as if the doctors and the psychiatrists

are bad enough, wait until I tell you what Joe Biden hid in one of the emergency stimulus packages that you're going to find wonderful.

Yeah, indoctrination,

but for who?

Oh, wait.

You're listening to the best of the Glen Beck program.

Mr.

Jason Whitlock, who is, of course, a big fan of this program because of all of the heavy, heavy sports talk that I do all the time.

Welcome, Jason.

How are you?

I'm awesome.

And I did listen to

half of your last hour.

And wow, I mean, it was powerful what you were saying.

It's frightening what you're saying.

I can relate to what you're saying.

But I do come here filled with hope and energy.

And just I'm the most optimistic I've been in quite some time.

Who's our little, what are they called, rainbow ponies?

My little pony.

Who's going to bring some rainbow in my life right now?

Thank you for that.

Tell me why you're hopeful.

It'll be a name your audience may not recognize initially, but maybe some of them have heard of what's been going on the past 10 days, two weeks.

Kwame Brown.

You know that name, Stu?

Kwame Brown.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, you're paying attention.

Yes.

Well, first of all, I know him from back in the basketball days, but also

he's been mixing it up quite a bit lately.

He's incredible.

And he's a bolt of lightning.

He's former number one draft pick in 2001 in the NBA, drafted by the Washington Wizards

on the team that Jordan played two years for the Wizards.

See, he's saying this for me and about half of the women that are listening.

And the audience.

And so Kwame's reputation in the media has been that he was a bus, that he didn't work out, and he's been kind of a laughing stop for 20 years.

There's another narrative and a more truthful narrative, the guy's not a bust, that Michael Jordan actually didn't want him on the Wizards and kind of sabotaged his development early those first two years.

And so, but Kwame is fed up.

And so he attacked.

He's never really spoken out about this.

Never.

Okay.

Never.

I guess he had been doing a little YouTube page for about a year, but not really addressing this and not addressing it as passionately and as aggressively as he has over the past two weeks.

But he started attacking these two guys, Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes, who joked about him on their podcast in the past two weeks and basically continuing the narrative of this guy's a bust and a failure.

So any jokes that were beyond what had always been said or just the same?

Okay.

This was the tipping point.

And the tipping point really is, and people haven't talked about this, Kwame has a 16-year-old son who I think is a sports fan and a bit of an athlete.

And Kwame's like, hey, man, y'all can't just talk about me like this.

And my son's listening, my daughter's listening.

It's undermining my effectiveness as a dad.

I'm not going to be a laughingstock forever and just a punching bag for you guys forever.

But he's basically gone after Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes in the most aggressive,

it's profane, it's in your face.

He punked these guys, made them apologize.

Then Charlemagne the God, the radio host, the breakfast club that's popular, he jumps in and tries to defend Matt Barnes.

Kwame Brown goes after Charlemagne the God.

But just more important than these individual beefs, Kwame is expressing a message about and redefining manhood.

And it's a message specifically for black people, but it's for everybody's attracted to it.

It's about masculinity.

It's about what really is being a good father and a good representation in the media.

This does not sound woke.

No, he is.

That's the other.

He's not remotely woke.

He's actually on the other side.

Huge fan of Thomas Sowell.

Huge fan of Larry Elder.

Defended Candace Owens publicly.

He's unpacking these bigger ideas and about changing this very negative culture that has been defined for black people and we've embraced.

And

black people are loving it.

They're running towards him.

He's not being called an Uncle Tom, a coon.

He's not being called a sellout.

They're saying, yes, we've been waiting on someone to say this and represent this in a way that we believe in.

And so this guy has gone from 10,000 YouTube subscribers to 250,000 in 10 days.

Wow.

10,000 Instagram followers to 175,000 in 10 days.

People are running to Kwame Brown and everybody in the black internet space is talking about him and having a reaction.

And there's been nothing but support.

and what he he's opening the door even though again it's profane it's not

you know look i have to tell you something um i used to have to go with my best friend uh who was living with us it was broken family and he lived with us for a while and we'd have to go pick up his dad at the bar we'd get a call from his mom and she'd say could you go pick him up at the bar so we had to go in and he was a bastard he was a son of a bitch and um and we'd have to go in the bar and he'd call us all kinds of names and everything else.

And it is from that experience that I have, I grew to understand if you want to help somebody, you can't do it outside of the bar.

You have to be in the bar.

You have to be, and you can't even do it in the bar if you're in there going, and Jesus says you shouldn't drink on Sundays.

No, no, they're not going to listen to you.

You have to meet people where they are.

And he is meeting people exactly where they are.

And he's representing working class people of all races.

He's not an elite.

He is the opposite.

You know, he's a plebe.

He's just, he's anti-elite.

And

there's another version of Kwame Brown that's having amazing success in the internet, YouTube, Instagram space.

A guy named Kevin Samuels.

He's not an athlete.

He's a former businessman who's an image consultant, and he's in a suit and tie and saying really the exact same things as Kwame, but he's saying it like he's a college professor or he's some suited up businessman.

And he's having incredible impact with black people.

He's a religious guy, member of a church, deacon of the church.

And he's...

He and Kwame

are, they're not working together, but they are working together.

and they're reaching a massive audience and opening the doors for people like me and others to come in behind and add our take and spin without being cast out as like, oh my God, you're not really for black people.

It's, I'm hopeful like the tide is really turning because these two guys are getting so much support and they're so anti-woke.

Have you seen it?

I mean,

here's, I see people wake up, but they wake up like this.

Look, I, I mean, what you're saying, I'm, I'm with you.

You're exactly right.

It's, it's crazy.

It's getting really crazy.

Why are you whispering to me?

I don't want anybody to hear me.

You know, I'm seeing people wake up, but they're not willing to stand up.

That's not help.

That's not help.

Are you seeing people actually stand up and

clarify why this is right?

I'll just say this: from what I'm seeing on the internet, people's comments over Instagram, over YouTube, or what they're not whispering it.

They are shouting, hallelujah, thank God, protect Kwame at all costs.

Kevin Samuels is doing the right thing.

It's passionate, like we've been waiting for this type of content and this type of representation in the media space.

And I'm seeing NBA players,

prominent NBA players, jump behind and support Kwame.

And

I mean, Kenyon Martin's, another former number one draft pick.

He's got some podcasts.

He

offered great support of Kwame Brown.

I've heard from Hall of Fame NBA players personally who have caught, man, you watching what Kwame's doing?

This is great.

And, you know, he's because, look, like, the Steven Jackson Jackson guy is connected to George Floyd.

He had a relationship with him through childhood, and part of his brand went up in George Floyd's death.

He gained some more popularity.

I know Stephen Jackson personally.

I know Matt Barnes personally.

They used to come on my TV show on Speak for Yourself.

Stephen Jackson's well-intentioned, but misguided.

Matt Barnes is an idiot.

And

Kwame has called him out in ways that, you know, I don't know if he'll he'll ever recover from.

He calls him Becky with the good hair.

I'm not sure if Matt Barnes are going to recover from that.

But they have basically done this podcast where they're in their 40s.

They're acting like they're still gangster tough guys who block.

And Kwame's like, hey, man, y'all grown men.

Why are y'all portraying to young people?

that this gangster lifestyle and mentality is the way for us to go and

people

it's like their show has been popular, but everybody can spot the ignorance of what they're doing, the degeneracy of what they're promoting.

And people are glad it's being called out and saying, Look, there's a better way to represent us.

This Kwame Brown and Kwame Brown is not, he's talented.

This guy will talk for two hours straight, and he'll be funny, he'll be compelling, he'll be insightful.

He's talented.

And it's like a natural talent.

I don't think anyone's trained him up.

He just has this huge personality.

He farms his own land.

He owns his own land.

He made $65 million in NBA.

He's not remotely broke, but he lives a working-class lifestyle.

He grows his own food.

He gets on a tractor every day.

There's something about that that changes people, I think.

I think when you're working with your hands and especially with the soil, you don't lose the connection to the things that are real.

Yeah.

And

he's not someone that wants to run around with celebrities.

He'd rather run around with his brothers or the plumber that comes over to his house.

I mean, he's saying all this, and it's true.

He's just,

he calls the little cabal of celebrities that go along the get-along game.

And he goes, none of them are man enough to stand on their own two feet.

They don't know how to take care of themselves

by themselves.

And he goes, I want to break all that up.

I want real men who are

producing sustainable lifestyles.

Yeah, he's incredible.

Now, he's getting into it.

What the hell are we talking to you for?

Why don't we just get him on?

No, no, no, no.