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Yesterday, I was supposed to spend about a half an hour with Jordan Peterson, and we just got so engrossed in our conversation that it was about an hour.
And then we wrapped up and we continued to talk.
The control room finally said, Guys, you have to leave the studio.
It was a fascinating conversation with one of the greatest minds alive today.
I'm going to go through a few of it.
You'll be able to find this
whole interview with Jordan Peterson lasts about an hour.
You'll find it on YouTube, available tomorrow on the Glenbeck YouTube channel, or you can find it right now at The Blaze.
But it is, it's fascinating.
I was trying to
find really, because he's a
psychologist by training, trying to find the psychology behind what's happening to us right now, why we're not standing, why some people are, why
Where does courage come from?
Where does this mistaken belief of the collective over the individual, how does that happen?
What do we have in common anymore?
We're going to cover some of those things with Jordan Peterson in 60 seconds.
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So, yesterday, spent some time with Jordan Peterson.
And
if you listened to it, I don't even know if I was clear,
but we started at a very odd place.
He even said, Wow, I didn't expect that to be the first question.
I talked to him a little bit about UFOs, and he was not aware.
We talked about it after the interview.
He wasn't aware what the Pentagon is saying about UFOs, which is really odd how so many people have missed what's happening with the Pentagon.
The Pentagon is now verifying UFOs.
They're no longer saying, wow, it was a weather balloon.
They're now saying, we can't explain this technology.
No one on Earth has this technology.
And they're going a step further.
We have in our possession extraterrestrial vehicles and materials.
What?
It is so bizarre.
So I started the conversation with
why have we always looked to the skies and
seen UFOs?
And quite frankly, I would,
I mean, if, let's be honest, if you got up this morning and you turn on the show and
I said to you with audio,
this just happened a few minutes ago.
I've got to play the audio for you again if you missed it.
And it's the president, and he steps up and he's like,
And I said, okay, let me translate.
He said that just a few minutes ago, he met with a three-headed alien who said he was taking over the world, but he's benevolent.
Even if he wasn't benevolent, wouldn't you kind of go,
oh, thank God.
Seriously, the world is in so much trouble trouble right now.
Wouldn't you be relieved if you heard there were aliens and they were coming for us?
Maybe it's just me, but I'm like, oh, goodness.
I mean,
they got to be smarter than us because they know how to get here.
And maybe they've been here for a long time, you know, so they're not going to eat us.
And quite honestly, even if they do make us into soup,
I think that would be better than what we got coming.
So we talked to him about that and
that led us to the talk of meaning
in life.
How do we find meaning and
how important is that and
the idea of redemption.
Here's the part on redemption from the podcast.
One of the first things I ever heard you talk about was relationship
in a kind of abstract way with God and how important
the redemptive story is.
And
I so like the way you approach it because you don't know, or maybe you do and you don't say, but
you don't profess that you are a believer, but you understand the importance to humans to be able to start again and have redemption.
And we are destroying that now in our culture.
You know, cancel culture, all of this stuff,
critical race theory.
There is no redemption.
And that is...
Yeah, well, one of the things, one of the things you're pointing to is that there's an unrecognized danger of our technology.
I don't suppose it's entirely unrecognized, but
the miracle of memory is not that we remember.
The miracle of memory is that we forget
and that we only remember what is necessary.
And because we can forget, we don't drag the past along with us, right?
So we can get free of the past.
Like all you need is three sleepless nights to understand what kind of hell life would be if you couldn't dispense with the past.
Because each night when you sleep, you dispense with that day.
And that renews you.
And so that story of
descent into the depths and redemption, I mean, that's part of our natural biological rhythm.
That's the descent into unconsciousness at night, into deep sleep, and then our re-awakening in the morning.
And that's associated with solar mythology, with the setting of the sun and the rising of the sun.
All that's tangled together, but that definitely does renew us and it enables us to start afresh in the morning.
The problem with technology, a problem with technology, is that it's becoming increasingly difficult to shed our past.
And without that, you can't redeem yourself.
And that is a mistake.
It is a problem because everyone makes mistakes and everyone makes mistakes all the time.
And you might ask yourself, well, why isn't it appropriate for you to be crushed by the weight of your own stupidity?
You know, given that it's immense and that you make all sorts of mistakes.
No one can live under those conditions.
We need to be able to let go and to forget and to forgive.
And we all need to forget that.
I've seen an interview.
I think there's...
There's like four or eight people on earth that have perfect recollection.
And
it's beyond just I remember.
They feel what they felt on any given day.
You can tell them a date, they'll tell you the weather, they'll tell you what they were wearing, what was happening.
And I saw an interview with one of them, and they became very emotional because they're reliving it.
And the people who have that gift or curse,
it's a curse.
Yeah,
some deal okay with it.
The others are just crushed by it.
So that led us to
interesting places.
I didn't want to talk to him about politics because I'm more concerned really
with
I'm going to be honest with you.
With what I do every day and what I say to you every day.
How do I point out the trouble?
that is ahead.
I've been doing this for 20 years and
it doesn't seem to really make an impact.
Now maybe it is impactful for you, but it doesn't feel like it to me.
Maybe it's because I started with a stupid idea that you just show people the facts and
they'll care.
Well, no, because nobody believes anything anymore.
Nobody knows who to trust, what to trust.
We're arguing over actual facts now.
I mean, we're so far away from reality.
It's like we're watching a cartoon.
We don't connect with anything anymore.
So
how do we connect that just because there are so many people that don't see the dangers of what they're participating in?
You know, it's, it's...
We know this from if you read the Bible.
You'll read one page and then
three page later,
you'll read the same story and you'll be like, wait a minute, this just happened to you.
How did you not remember that led to your destruction?
What is wrong with these people?
Well, we know because we're living it now.
You just say, well, it's different this time.
And it's not.
So how do we get people to recognize that it's not different this time?
It's the same thing, just different clothing.
Like, you know, Nazism, if it comes back,
it's not going to come back the same way.
You know, it's not going to come in with the black, you know, boots and the armband and the swastika.
I mean, you know, there are some that want that it comes back that way, but most likely it's going to come back clothed differently, clothed in
patriotism, clothed in
righteousness and justice and fairness and God and all of that stuff.
It always morphs to be able to get the most amount of people to go, yeah, that's right.
And how do you stand up against it?
And
Jordan Peterson has been through hell in back.
And so I asked him about courage.
And
how do you stand up?
What is in you that makes you stand up and say, you know what?
I don't really care what anybody's going to do to me.
This is right and this is wrong.
And I'm going to stand up for what I believe is right.
Listen to his answer.
It's so attractive, right, to identify, to localize malevolence externally.
It's so attractive because, first of all, it lets you off the hook and that's a relief.
And second,
if you've identified malevolence, there's nothing you can do to what is malevolent that's unjustifiable.
And so your worst impulses have free reign.
Because especially if you can also add to that a good cause,
you say, well, this is in the service of the eventual utopia.
It's like, well, now you have carte blanche for your worst motivations.
And that's very, very dangerous.
And so I always think that it's better to stick to the psychological, which...
So here's what I think I want, I was trying to drive at was,
you know, you see it in these big movie terms.
People see it in big movie terms, and you can't move.
You know, you're either on this side or that side, and you can't move, and nobody moves.
Nobody wants to recognize, you know, they're on the wrong side.
Nobody's making a case, they're just killing each other.
there is a growth of the reluctant hero in all stories there is this arc of that hero and they they something happens and they change and they become heroic but they're not heroes and so many people don't think that they have what it takes they're not the hero
And the people who are standing around are looking and
just following the crowd.
How do you get or or what's happening to us to where so many people are seeing what's going on?
If they know history at all, they'll understand the pitfalls.
It doesn't mean we end in the same place, but we could see the patterns repeating.
How do you get people to
recognize and then have the courage to stand?
You've taken a beating.
Nobody wants to do that.
Why is that worth it?
And how do you get there?
Well, I think it's worth it because of the alternative.
I believe the alternative is worse.
I mean, that's why I think it's worth it.
I think it's a decision to make
to stay silent when you have something to say.
You know, you don't know what it is within you
that requires your voice, right?
Because you feel, I have something to say.
It's like, well, where does that come from exactly, that feeling that you have something to say.
You're disgruntled at work and you're choking on your own bile because the situation is not just in your estimation.
You're dying to say something, but you won't.
Well, you'll die if you don't say it.
Maybe it's a death of a thousand cuts.
I don't like deferred punishment.
I'd rather take it now
and keep the future clean.
Which is why I encourage people too to have the fights now.
Not to hide things in the fog for later because they grow and metastasize.
It's better to confront what you need to confront when it's small and when you have some possibility of victory.
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And we talked a little bit about what's happening in education, both locally with critical race theory and the universities.
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So Jordan Peterson had some amazing things to say about how bad it is in colleges.
Don't send your kids.
I told my kids the other day, there are three colleges you're allowed to apply to and go.
I mean, if you want dad to help you out on your, you want to earn the money, you can go anywhere you want.
You'll be an adult.
But the three that I recommend and I will put money into,
I feel confident that they're not going to make you into a zombie.
Listen to what Jordan Peterson said about colleges.
You want this more nuanced approach, and that was actually part of the purpose of a classical education.
A humanities education was designed to give you a more nuanced view.
That was its original purpose.
Although that's, you know, sadly, I would say, gone by the wayside.
It looks like it.
I've had these conversations recently that have been quite interesting.
You know, they're very disturbing, actually.
I talked to two of Canada's most outstanding people in the last two weeks, Conrad Black, who ran a huge newspaper empire, and Rex Murphy, who's probably Canada's best-known journalist
personality, because he's both.
He's a great journalist, but he's a personality as well.
And they remembered their university education uh jocko willink as well he's not a canadian but he had the same kind of memory he talked about they talked about their education their education in the humanities mostly concentrating on english literature and described it with tremendous fondness as a turning point in their life as an opening up of of the world of knowledge to to to to to their youthful eyes right very very fondly
contrasted that with Yon Mi Park, who
is an escapee from North Korea, very brave woman who was then enslaved in China, had a life that was just sheer hell, and spent a good part of the interview telling me how much better her life was than the lives of many people she knew.
She wrote a book called In Order to Live,
but the book stopped at the year 2015.
So I asked her what she did.
She went to Columbia, took a humanities degree, which was a dream of hers.
After finishing her entire education in one year,
her education prior to university.
Right, exactly.
Then she went to a South Korean university for three years.
They're hard to get into.
And then she went to Columbia.
I said, what was it like going to Columbia?
Taking a humanities degree from this escapee from totalitarianism who was once enslaved, got to go to one of America's august institutions and be trained in the humanities.
Someone who'd been exposed to George Orwell and who was motivated to write because she read Animal Farm, understood the power of literature.
She said it was a complete waste of time and money, and that she was afraid to say anything.
Wow.
Yeah, wow.
It's a hell of a thing to hear when you're a university professor.
I thought, how catastrophic, how utterly catastrophic that that can be the case.
She compared it to being in North Korea.
I said, surely, surely there was one professor, one course.
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Hello, America.
It's Friday.
Every day it's becoming easier and easier for me to show you examples of people standing up and doing the right thing and people with great courage.
I'm I'm not sure
I have talked to somebody who has as much courage as
Jeanette Shada.
Jeanette is living in Beaverton, Oregon, you know, the Portland area, and she is running for school board and fighting against critical race theory in the schools.
When you have Antifa threatening to kill your mayor,
wow, the last place I want to be is in the center of that and in politics.
She is running now for the
Beaverton School Board.
She's a candidate with the platform of anti-critical race theory.
She was a high school English teacher at a charter school, 95% minority students.
She is certified to teach English as a second language as well.
She tutors students.
She has worked as a teacher's assistant, a group home, foster youth, substitute, K through 12 school, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
She's an accomplished teacher.
She joins us now.
Welcome, Jeanette.
Hi, Glenn.
Thank you for having me on your show.
Why?
What has given you the courage to be able to do this?
Well, it started out with the school district not properly
working with my son who has a 504 plan and some mental health issues.
And so I pulled him out of the B or Ton schools one week before Governor Brown
put the shutdown on everybody because of COVID.
And it was just to get his grades up.
We moved from Texas just a few months prior to that.
And he went from a straight A student to an F student and skipping school regularly because he didn't feel like he belonged and they weren't servicing his 504,
which is against the law.
So, as time went on, of course, we're in lockdowns.
He wants to go back to a campus, and I can't let him go back to a campus because schools are shut down.
So, along came December, and this opportunity came up.
I was actually thinking of going back in the classroom because I did renew my teaching credential here in Oregon.
I originally got my credential in Oregon many years ago, and I
decided to run.
I prayed about it, and this is the direction that I'm supposed to go.
And then when we were deciding on my platform,
I knew about critical race theory.
I knew about comprehensive sexuality education.
And
I decided to run against them.
I knew it was going to cause controversy, but wow, I did not know Antifa was going to start going after me.
There's one person in Antifa who went on my Facebook page.
I received a thousand dollar donation from a gentleman named Ben Edel with Free Oregon.
And they started blaming me taking money from Proud Boys.
And Ben has nothing to do with the Proud Boys.
He is a very upstanding citizen who lost his business in downtown Portland due to Antifa riots and due to the shutdown of Governor Brown.
That is still occurring to this day.
People don't understand we're still shut down in Oregon, big time.
And so Antifa started coming after me and that just put the firestorm.
And that was about two weeks ago.
But you know, when you have bullies threatening you, calling you all hours of the night,
leaving nasty messages all over your Facebook page, what do you do?
You stand up to them.
And that's what I taught my students for 23 years.
I've been in education.
You stand up to your bullies.
and you face them down and you say, no, you're not going to silence me.
I am a human being.
I deserve to have my voice heard heard just like you do.
And if you don't like my platform, then that's okay.
But we cannot have critical race theory in our schools.
It is teaching racism.
They're trying to get rid of racism with racism.
That makes absolutely no sense to me.
So that's why I decided to run.
And
it was going really well until two weeks ago, and then the teachers' union started coming after me with some teachers who are staunch teachers union advocates.
And then one of the teachers there got a hold of one of her Antiva friends.
And that's where the firestorm started.
So now they steal my yard signs.
They call me all these nasty names.
And
I'm standing strong.
I'm standing against them.
And people are tired.
I'm out talking to people either on the phone, through email, face-to-face at the door, and people want change.
They do not want critical race theories in the classroom.
I had one young lady two days ago tell me she has a one- and four-year-old and she
wants her kids to be safe in school.
She wants them to learn correct history.
She wants them to be little kids, you know, learning the basics of reading, writing, arithmetic, art, music.
And that's what schools are meant to be, educational facilities and not ideological camps where propaganda is pushed.
And I've been in education long enough to know
that what we're currently having is not okay within the colleges.
And now we have a whole generation of teachers who are indoctrinated in this.
And so they brought it down to the K through 12 system.
And we have to stand up and fight.
We cannot be silent anymore
or our whole country is going to be in peril.
We're talking to Jeanette Shada.
She is running for a school board up
in Beaverton, up in the Portland area.
Jeanette, first of all, is your family safe?
I believe so.
We have to be extra vigilant, of course, because Antifa has made some veiled threats, both through Facebook and through phone calls.
I have called the police, but they basically said unless something happens, there's nothing they can do, which is very interesting.
I support the police 100%, but it's unfortunate with how volatile Antifa is, and you just don't know what's going to happen.
I'm not scared for my safety.
I still go out.
I still block walk.
I still do sine waves.
Just Wednesday, I was doing sine waves on a busy intersection in Beaverton and the same person who put out the information to start this firestorm put out another post saying, oh, Jeanette Shotta is standing on this corner.
Go to her.
So about five Black Lives Matter people showed up.
but we stood there anyway, and I actually talked with them.
One was a 13-year-old girl, and,
you know,
she's been indoctrinated in this stuff, and it's unfortunate.
They wanted to yell at me after, you know, we actually had a pretty decent conversation until I told them that they really need to learn the true history of the United States.
And then they started yelling at me about.
how this country is built on the backs of slaves and things like that.
And I said, well, that's your opinion.
And I stood there.
Our event was 4:30 to 6:30.
They showed up about 6 o'clock, and we stayed till 6:30 because I'm not going to back down.
I'm not going to run away.
There are people
human beings.
Good for you.
Before we go any further, I want to make sure we get to this.
Do you have enough volunteers?
I don't even know how many listeners we have in the Beaverton area, but do you have enough volunteers?
Are you looking for donations?
How can this audience help you?
Yeah, if you go to buildbackbasics.com,
you can donate there.
I am always looking for volunteers.
I have a great volunteer team right now, and we have been pushing hard ever since February, and we're still pushing hard.
I received 15 new volunteer submissions over the last week, and I do talk to every single one of them
to make sure, you know,
their heart is in it and
because it takes courage to stand and do this even when I've been in the local news and they've seen the nastiness on Facebook from people some of these people are teachers that are teaching your children you know they're making these vile nasty comments and I'm just like come on people this is America you know if you don't like my platform then go to the ballot box and vote but you don't need the vitriol here but buildbackbasics.com is where people can go to learn more.
And I do answer my phone.
Now I let it go to voicemail a lot because I don't know the phone numbers, but I will call back.
And people are surprised that it's me and not somebody else because I don't have a campaign manager.
I'm managing my campaign.
I have a very good media team that I hired
who's handling the social media side.
But I don't want to
meet a few people that are backing me.
I don't know if you have followed followed what happened in South Lake, Texas, but there's a national story about it again today.
In South Lake, Texas, we had the same exact thing, and the city was kind of asleep and just didn't think that critical race theory was
a big deal.
And then they started being calling, you know, some parents were called racists for bringing up, wait a minute, what are we teaching here?
And the election, because of the strong pushback, the election went in favor of those who were questioning and wanted critical race theory out.
There were three board members that were voted in new on the on your platform, and they won 70 to 30.
And I thought that was pretty amazing.
That was a county that voted for Joe Biden, by the way.
Yeah, and I have been following that story, and that goes to show the silent majority.
They are tired of this.
Like I said, I'm out there campaigning every day and talking with people, and so are my volunteers, and the stories that come in.
People are so tired of this.
They're afraid for their children to be indoctrinated with this false narrative of if you're born white, that you are inherently racist.
And if you are born of a brown or black skin, that you are a victim of the system.
No.
I taught kids of all races, all nationalities, all languages.
And what I taught them is they are excellent human beings and have every opportunity in the world to pull themselves up.
I had one gentleman named Pierre
when I worked in Texas at the alternative campus.
He was in a gang life.
He was half black, half white.
And he came to me with tears down his face, not knowing what to do.
He had a two-year-old at the time.
He had a two-year-old little girl.
And I helped him find the opportunity to pull out to make sure that he had a better life than what his parents gave him because his parents were gang in gangs and drug dealers and he didn't want that for himself.
These kids are crying out.
They want supportive adults there for them.
And in America, underneath the Constitution of the United States, it's equality for all.
That means we all have the opportunity to grasp onto something positive and make things of it.
Yes, this country had slavery.
Yes, we have racism.
But you know what?
The civil rights movement, well, the Civil War, you know, we pulled out of slavery there.
And even before then, the founding fathers didn't want slavery here.
They tried to get rid of it in the Articles of Confederation.
And then the Civil Rights Movement with Martin Luther King Jr., judge a person by the content of the character, not an immutable quality like skin color, a God-given gift that we all have.
And
now critical race theory is making a U-turn and going pre-civil rights and reinstitutionalizing racism, doing the exact opposite of
what they're claiming it's meant to do Jeanette you give me great hope and I hope there are more teachers out there and more parents out there like you that are willing to do the tough thing you are in really
a dangerous situation and we will keep you in our prayers I would ask everybody who prays in this audience to put Jeanette on her on your prayer list
but I congratulate you.
Your election is coming up, I think in what, next week or the week after?
Yeah, May 18th is the last day by 8 o'clock.
But that doesn't end there.
When myself, Sarah Lynn, and Fua get on the school board, because we're running together on the same platform, when we get onto the school board,
that's when the real work begins because we have to undo a lot of what the Superintendent Rodding and this current school board has done.
And we need to get schools back to being educational facilities and not indoctrination camps that they're becoming.
And everybody needs to stand up and have a voice in that.
I am so glad to know you.
We will call you the day after the election and hopefully have you on the show as a victor.
Congratulations and thank you.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for even my family.
I know they're not going to be affected directly with what you're doing, but my family will be directed by your courage of standing.
And I thank you so much for that, Jeanette.
I appreciate it.
That is Jeanette Shada.
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Bill O'Reilly is coming up in just a few minutes, and we have to share
the chairman of the Joint Chiefs talking about that
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Yeah, there's not really, we don't have any plans.
You know, it's going to come over the United States and hit us.
Are we going to blow it out of the sky?
No, we don't have any plans.
We're not plans for that.
We're hoping that it's going to land in the ocean.
Yeah, we're hoping.
Or someplace to hope that.
Right, okay, okay.
All right.
Well, I'm hoping that the country doesn't collapse under this pressure, too, but I think we should do something about it.
This is the Glenn Beck program.
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Well,
I finally got the fight against organized crime in America, which came out this week.
I had to go out and buy it myself.
Bill O'Reilly just wouldn't, he refused to send me a copy so I could read it in advance.
But I hear it's really good, Bill.
How are sales?
How are things on Killing the Mob?
Well, we hit number three on Amazon, so it was streaking there.
It came out on Tuesday.
We sent Glenn Beck at least seven copies, but his staff apparently pofered them
because Beck is a good idea.
I have all seven copies.
I have all seven copies.
And you actually read this book, Beck.
I know you read it.
I did.
Because it's very entertaining, and you learned a lot, and you give me credit where credit is due.
Hello.
Hello.
But are you there?
Can you hear me?
I think so.
I'm here.
Yes.
Okay.
Why are you being weird?
So I'd love to have you on next week.
And it was my fault that we didn't have you on this week, but could we have you on next week just for an hour, just talking about this book?
Absolutely.
That's very kind of you.
Very kind of you.
And I do apologize for not doing it this week.
I don't know what happened.
I know.
It just kind of got away from me.
All right.
We'll talk a little bit more about killing the mob in a second.
But first, what is the big story of the week to you, Bill?
I think the bad economy news today,
because this is the linchpin of whether the progressive movement gains even more power in America than it has.
And the news today was not good.
So
take us through it.
Well, let's start with Joe Biden visiting Jimmy Carter last week.
I was actually happy that happened because I don't know whether you know this or not, but Bill Clinton and Barack Obama totally ignored Jimmy Carter.
He was radioactive.
They didn't want to be seen with him.
They didn't talk to him.
And whether you like Carter or not, he's a patriot.
He did a lot of good work for Habitat of Humanity, as everybody knows.
I'm sure.
I think he's actually a nice guy.
I think he's probably a very nice man.
He was never nice to me, but he's probably
because a lot of people mean to me.
But anyway, Carter, in my lifetime and your lifetime back, because our lifetimes coincide,
was the worst president for the economy.
It was Herbert Hoover all over again with Carter.
I mean, every blanket mistake you could make.
There were gas lines and inflation and high interest rates and unemployment.
It was horrible.
Okay.
So now I am predicting that absolutely could happen with Joe Biden.
In fact, I didn't, I'm not privy to the conversation, but I think Mr.
Biden said, look, how can I screw up this economy?
Can you just tell me how you did it, Jimmy?
Can you
refresh my memory when nobody could afford heating oil?
What was the, it was everybody should just wear a sweater.
That was it, right?
Yeah, we were sweatering.
What happened was that
the Middle East did not respect Jimmy Carter at all.
And the Saudis didn't like him, and they formed OPEC.
That's when OPEC started.
And the Saudis basically told the United States, we're not going to give you as much oil as you want.
We'll dole it out to you the way we see fit.
And that caused gas and heating oil shortages so that Americans actually had to get in their car and wait for hours to fill up their
okay
and then when you wanted to get heating oil those deliveries did not come on a regular basis because the heating oil companies didn't have the heating oil and by the way you didn't only have to land you didn't have to just wait in line you had even and odd license plate days so if your license plate ended in an even number you could go on tuesday wednesday and friday and odd on the other days.
It was insanity, truly insanity.
Right.
So now we have a president of the United States who's basically saying, look, I'm going to try to spend trillions of dollars that we don't have.
All right.
It would be like your wife walking in back and saying, you know,
I'm going to give all of our money to Bolivia and even more than we have.
I'm just going to send everything to Bolivia.
All right.
And you're going, no, that's not fiscally sound.
That's what Biden's doing.
I mean, he's looking into the camera and he's going, I got $6 trillion that I want to spend because we're going to wipe out global warming.
And you go, well, wait, wait, wait.
China's building coal plants.
Do you not understand that?
So whatever we do is going to be negated by what China does.
And there's Joe with the sunglasses on, you know.
And then he's basically saying, we want to control the economy from Washington, not the private sector that created all these jobs under Trump.
We're going to tax them as far as we can.
But not only that, if you buy stocks, which helps corporate America, all right, expand R ⁇ D, all of that, we're going to tax you 50%
if your assets are over $1 million.
Well, the big players in the market, of course their assets are over 50%.
So now you take a chance because the stock might go down, but if you win, Joe wants 50%.
All right, so this is about as economically unsound
as anybody could be.
There isn't any economist except the New York Times people, and, you know, they're not really economists, they're communists, saying, oh, this is good.
All right.
So nobody, everybody knows this is bad
for the economy.
All right.
But Joe's going to send you money.
You're going to send you a check.
Yeah, yeah.
You're going to do $1,200 here.
So two states, Montana and South Carolina, basically said, we can't now fill the jobs we have because people are getting so much money from Joe, they won't work.
It won't work.
All right.
So we're cutting that off.
So if you live in Montana or South Carolina, you won't get this stimulus money anymore because those states are saying it's insane.
You're creating a welfare state, which is exactly what Biden is doing.
That's the big story of the week.
So let me ask you this because I came out with this, I think, on Monday or Tuesday.
I don't know if you saw the latest from Bank of America,
but
they talked about their, you know, the...
investor calls and all of these CEOs are talking about why their company is doing well
And the mentions of inflation were up week to week on those investor calls by 800%.
It is the highest
in recorded history of a spike in inflation
talks about why we're not going to have the quarter we were going to.
And so Bank of America wrote this, and I want to quote this to you.
Inflation trends running hot as margins hit record highs.
The mentions of inflation quadrupled year after year after last week's mention had jumped nearly 800% year over year.
On an absolute basis, mentions
skyrocketed to record highs, pointing to, at the very least, transitory hyperinflation ahead.
What do you think?
I'm not smart enough to digest anything you have said in the last 30 seconds.
I'm a simple man.
Right, right, right.
My math is ridiculous, but I want to tell you two things.
So I go to the gas station and I put the little nozzle in my car.
I can do that.
It took me two years to figure out how to do it, but I can do it now.
A hundred days ago, I was paying a dollar less a gallon that I'm paying now.
All right, so I'm paying a dollar more on Long Island for every gallon of gas that I put in my car.
And I'm doing self-serve here.
I'm not having some guy named Lenny put the stuff in my car.
It's me.
And when I go to the grocery store, which I don't do very much, I have to confess, but I pay the bill, groceries here are up about 25%, Beck.
All right?
So gas is going up.
Groceries are going up.
I understand home building materials are going to go up.
That's what inflation is.
Okay?
Yep.
So what you could buy 100 days ago for $1.82 a gallon is now $2.82 a gallon.
So even
go ahead.
I know they feel it, but here's what Biden says.
Biden's administration is saying that's just because of COVID.
People weren't making things, and so that's why things are going so high.
It has nothing to do with money supply.
Do you believe that?
I think we had COVID for just about a year since before Joe was inaugurated, I think.
And we didn't have this, so I'm just a simple man, but I go, oh, didn't COVID start about February 2020?
Yeah.
Yeah, but people weren't buying things, Bill.
They weren't buying things, and they had lots of supply on the shelves.
I was buying stuff.
I bought gas.
I bought food.
See, you need food to live, Beck.
See, that you had to buy food even if COVID was there, because you'll die if you don't eat.
Look, all I'm trying to tell you is this: Joe Biden does not have a blanking clue about how to run this country.
And that is not a partisan statement, or an ideological statement, or a party statement.
And I am going to tell you, I know you have to take a break and sell lots of stuff because everybody wants a sponsor on the Glenn Beck program.
But when we come back, I'm going to tell you why
organized criminals, mafia chieftains, love Joe Biden.
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Yes, I'm sorry about that.
Bill O'Reilly, so why does the mob love Joe Biden?
Okay, so killing the mob is a history of organized crime, and we take you right up to the present moment.
So 100 days ago, when Joe Biden came in, the first thing he he did was knock out all the border protections that Donald Trump had installed.
It took Trump three years to get the border under control.
He finally did.
In a day,
Biden knocked out all the border protections, stopped the building of the wall, and basically stopped people from
being confined to Mexico.
They could come across.
In that time,
400,000 migrants have arrived
in the United States illegally.
Now, some of those want asylum, but it's 400,000.
Just picture that.
From Brownsville to San Diego, 400,000 foreign nationals are here in 100 days.
What that did was it diverted all of the Border Patrol's attention and every other federal agency on the border to care for those people, to feed them, to shelter them, to process them.
So what then
was that
was lacking?
Drug interdiction.
That was left to the side because all of the people in charge of the drug interdiction had to be used to help the migrants.
Are you with me so far?
Yep, yep.
The result of that.
Go ahead.
I was going to say, I think you could go a step further.
Not only is nobody paying attention.
Oh, okay, go ahead.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
All of the resources that were used under the Trump administration to stop narcotics from coming to the United States were gone.
The result was a flood of fentanyl, heroin, methamphetamine, and cocaine into this country.
Who controls the distribution of those drugs to the areas of the countries?
The mafia still controls all of it.
The deal organized crime, American organized crime has with the Mexican cartels is you make it, you ship it, but you don't come here.
See, there are no Mexican cartels here in the United States because the American mobsters will not permit it.
The American mobsters never see the drugs.
They franchise the drugs out to drug gangs.
These are the people murdering children in Chicago, New York, LA, and every other big city.
Okay?
They are the ones that retail the drugs to the addicts on the street.
The mafia doesn't see that, but the mafia controls that.
They allow the drug gangs to operate.
And the drug gangs then pay them an enormous amount of money for the privilege of selling drugs in Harlem or in Bed Stai or in Compton, California.
That's how it works.
So today, there's more drugs in the USA than at any other time in history.
And the mafia chieftains love Biden because Biden has an open border policy.
There you go.
Let me ask you this.
First of all,
there's also the benefit directly to the cartels, not necessarily the U.S.
mob, but the cartels, because they're making about $14 million a day on human trafficking across the border.
So there's another boom industry for them.
The human trafficking is chump change compared to what they make
importing hard drugs into this country.
Hard drugs is a billion-dollar industry.
All of our social problems, right?
The opioid crisis, organized crime.
Homeless, organized crime.
Who do you think these homeless people are?
They're drug addicts.
They can't work.
They can't pay a mortgage.
They have to sit out there.
And they want to sit out there, many of them, and get high all day long.
You say, how about some rehab?
They look at you like, you know, come on.
Not all of them.
Some of them want to improve, but a lot of them don't.
Well, that's all drug-related.
Violent crime, through the roof, murders.
You report it, I report it.
What is that?
Who are doing that?
The drug gangs are doing it.
It's not Bonnie and Clyde walking out of their house, machine-gunning people down.
It's drug gangs in the poor.
Why were we willing to look at the mobsters in the 1930s
and not willing to look at the drug gangs today?
Because there's a race component today.
So I did a search on billorilly.com.
As As you know, we do the no spin news every night.
I told my crack staff, find me one article, one,
that explains the massive amount of narcotics that are being shipped into the United States since Joe Biden is president.
Not one.
No local reporting, no national reporting, nothing.
I'm the guy that's reporting it.
I'm the guy.
Now, you ask a very good question, Beck.
Why
did organized crime get all the headlines in the past, but now we don't hear anything about it?
Because the organized crime industry is narcotics.
They do a little sports betting.
They do a little prostitution.
They own the porn industry.
Yeah, but that's not what they really do.
And the narcotics are centered in the inner cities.
So there's a racial component there.
The murders in Chicago are 90% African American.
That's why nothing's done.
Nothing's discussed.
They don't want it.
They want to do it.
It's too explosive for the press to cover it.
And the politicians, forget it.
Forget it.
I mean, they have no clue.
They don't care.
And it's just business as usual.
So I want to
ask you, I have to take another break.
But when we come back, I want to talk to you about the labor unions and what
Biden is doing with the labor unions.
I mean, it is, I've never seen anything like it.
I don't even know know if FDR was, did it, did as much for the labor unions as Joe Biden is.
And historically, the labor unions have been run by the mob.
Are they still, and what does that mean?
More with Bill O'Reilly coming up in just a second.
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We welcome back because it's Friday, Mr.
Bill O'Reilly.
We've been talking about the news of the week.
He also has his new book out, Killing the Mob.
It is available everywhere now.
It's already three number three on Amazon, probably ahead of you know, some coloring book or something that is always number one.
But it's a great book.
It's all about the history of the mob in America, and you'll understand
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Bill, before the break, we were talking about the cartels and the mob here and what's happening on the border.
Let me take you to the mob in the labor unions, and we have now this push for labor unions, unlike I've seen at any time in my life.
I remember in the 70s when labor unions were being pushed,
but
there was an outcry for some of those labor unions
back then by regular people, or so it seemed to me.
You know, I was younger, and so it seemed to me just watching things that there was some call for labor unions because it was out of balance.
Right now, Americans do not want labor unions, and
we are being smothered by very powerful labor unions like the teachers' union.
Connections to the mob?
Some unions, in the United States of Trump, I have a big chapter on how President Trump, when he was a businessman in New York, had to deal with the concrete union that put up his buildings, and that was a mafia-run operation.
And Trump admits it.
He says, I had these guys in my office, and I had to negotiate with them because they ran the union.
In Killing the Mob, I take you minute by minute through the assassination of Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamsters Union boss, who was mobbed up.
But today,
some mobs are compromised because of the pension funds, of course.
There are billions of dollars in those funds.
Pension funds and unions were used to build Las Vegas.
That whole city was built on mob pension fund money.
The teachers unions in America are very powerful.
And
what the Biden administration Democratic Party is doing is putting together a coalition of union workers, of African African Americans, of other minority people, and of white liberals, particularly women.
And that coalition gave them power.
That defeated Donald Trump, and they want to enhance that coalition, and unions are a part of that.
That is why you're seeing all the goodies being given to the unions.
And even if the unions hurt
the folks, the United States, as the teachers' unions are certainly doing with COVID.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
The Democratic Party are going to enhance their power as much as possible.
Bill, there's one story that we covered this week, and I don't think anybody else was covering it, and I highly recommend it to you, especially because of unions and mob connections.
But a little-known
benefit for the United States Federal Reserve and I guess for the labor unions in some way or another, is in COVID emergency relief.
I was wondering who is going to bail out the Fed?
I mean, you know, everybody's too big to fail.
The Fed has $9 trillion now on their balance sheet.
How are they going to get rid of that?
How are they going to sell all of those bonds when nobody is buying?
Apparently, in the COVID relief,
the Fed is now allowed to sell to anyone where they couldn't do that before.
So now they can sell to anyone on the open market.
Well, guess who is now required as of 2022 to invest one-third of their pension funds in treasury bills?
The unions.
What?
I mean, you know,
cozy little loop.
Yeah.
Total scam.
It's a scam.
Total scam.
I mean, because we are now on the hook
for the pensions, too.
This is how the federal government works.
All right.
So whoever has power tries to engineer things behind the scenes to
keep power, to get more power.
So if the unions are supporting the Democratic Party and there are billions of dollars to be invested, why not invest it in the Democratic Party, which would be the Fed right now, because the Fed has to prop up or at least try the Biden administration's economic policies.
So this is like
always been there, but now it's on steroids because nobody watches.
See, the diminishment of the press, the corruption of the corporate media,
has led to more and more and more corruption on the part of the federal government because nobody's watching them.
They don't watch them.
And so they can do what they want to do.
I mean, organized crime was able to assemble more power than any other entity in the United States from 1946 to 1962 because there was not one federal agency investigating them.
J.
Edgar Hoover refused to do it because the mob had stuff on Hoover.
So they ran wild.
And it's the same thing now with the politicians.
If you're a liberal Democrat, no one is going to report on you.
And I go back to this horrendous drug border situation that not one reporter has even mentioned.
So we're living in a corrupt country right now, Beck.
The country is corrupt.
I know, I know, unfortunately.
And I think that
we are losing our FBI.
I talked to a former FBI agent just this week off the air, and he said, for the first time in my life,
I see what's going on inside the FBI and the Justice Department, and I am afraid there is no justice in the country.
That if you are on the wrong side of whoever is now in charge, that they will use the Justice Department and the FBI, and they will get you if they want.
Yeah, that's
terrifying.
Yeah, the FBI chief is Merrick Garland.
Now, Merrick Garland is a party apparatchnik.
He always has been.
Now, you can make the same charge to William Barr, but Barr really hosed Trump.
He did in the end.
He did.
He hosed.
All right.
Now, Merrick Garland, he's going to do what the Trump, not the Trump, the Biden people tell him to do, not Joe Biden.
Again, I'm going to go back to the president.
He doesn't know what's going on.
He has no capacity.
This is a machine.
This is a machine.
Let me switch topics before we run out of time.
The Chinese rocket launcher crashing to Earth.
I want to play something from the U.S.
military, the same military that
came out this week, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
One of the key strengths of our military is diversity.
Our CIA released a recruiting video that was all about being woke and
a cisgender person that has an anxiety disorder, strangely, but I'm now working for the CIA.
This is what our military said about this gigantic rocket launcher that is falling to earth and would be catastrophic if it lands on population.
Listen to this.
Both of you, what is the latest estimate of when and where this Chinese rocket will come down?
Do you consider it a potential threat to the U.S.?
And
do you have a plan for shooting it down if necessary?
Thanks, David.
The latest
estimates that I've seen is somewhere between the 8th and 9th, you know, and the experts are still working on that.
At this point, we don't have a plan to shoot the rocket down.
We're hopeful that it will land in a place where it
won't harm anyone,
hopefully in the ocean or someplace like that.
Now, Bill, I'm hopeful that everything the Chinese military says about coming after the United States, I'm hopeful that that's just fantasy, but I think we should prepare.
What does that say about our military and our state of preparedness?
Well, I don't think they can shoot down a stupid rocket anyway, even if they wanted to, but I love the guy's demeanor.
I mean, you know, we hope it falls in the ocean or someplace like that.
What?
I mean, a lake?
I mean,
or Australia.
Or Australia.
Someplace like that.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I think we're all just going to have to take our chances here, which, of course, increases the anxiety disorder that I have.
I you know, forget about the CIA.
Um, because it's becoming apparent to me that the Biden administration, they're not hiring the best and brightest.
Are you getting that feeling?
Yes.
Yeah, they're they're guys are in charge of well, um, we really don't know where it's gonna go and we hope it goes someplace like the ocean, but maybe a lake would be okay.
All right.
Hang on.
One last question for you.
Yeah.
Next week, Wednesday,
New York opens again.
The New York Times wrote a story about it's coming so fast.
I don't know what to do.
People are panicking.
Can we still wear our masks?
How do we deal with this?
What is it going to be like in New York next week?
Well, people are going to still wear the mask back because most of them are breaking into stores and stealing stuff.
So the mask hides their identity.
Right.
We don't have a mask problem here because most of the people are masked up so they can commit crimes.
So De Blasio is cleverly, cleverly
protecting people from COVID by encouraging criminality.
Do you see the brilliance of that?
No, it is brilliant.
It is brilliant.
Just like a socialist to do that.
But it's a mental disorder.
It really is a mental disorder with many people in California and the Northeast because they have been indoctrinated on this.
It's craziness.
But
many of them are not good-looking people.
So there's a vested interest
to wear the mask.
All right.
All right.
May you wear a mask for the rest of your life.
Bill O'Reilly.
Thank you so much.
We will, this is a note to the producers.
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Okay, back.
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These are moms who are like, hey, let's talk about all of the killing in the inner cities.
Can we, if we're going to say Black Lives Matter, do they matter?
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Also, I just want to stop for a second and thank the director of
my daughter.
She's in a new musical here in the Dallas area.
It's Les Miserables, and I saw it last night, and I'll talk about that in a second.
But
when she came home after she got, you know, the role assignments,
she came home and I said, what parts did you get?
And she said, Dad, I play prostitute number one and prostitute number three and prostitute number four.
And I'm like, fantastic.
So I met the director last night and I thanked him for a very proud moment where my daughter came home and said, Dad, I'm a whore.
And it was special.
And I think something that every father looks forward to.
But she's in this production and I don't know where this talent is coming from.
The kid that plays Jean Valjean, the Cosetteism,
all of them, Fontine, the major roles, they're like 15, 16, 17 years old.
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Stop.
Okay.
How proud you must be.
I know.
Yeah, I mean, I went to a, what would be defined as a fine arts high school now, and I don't think we were that good.
I mean, the talent, and I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's, I don't know.
The talent is not as,
I don't think it was ever as good as it is now.
It's, it's truly remarkable.
There's been some talent inflation over the years, I think.
And so.
You think so?
Yeah.
Are we printing too much talent?
Is that what's happening?
God's just printing too much talent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well, it's up to him.
All right.
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We started with Jordan Peterson.
Then I talked to this very brave woman who is going in and trying to to win a seat on the school board in the Portland, Oregon
area.
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Her whole thing is standing up against critical race theory.
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We always say, why is no one talking about the kids that are being killed?
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Well,
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I'm sorry, Glenn, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
No, please.
Go ahead.
I was just giving your listeners, again, a reminder that we've been around 40 years.
I founded it 40 years ago.
And we have 2,500 low-income grassroots leaders in 39 states of all racial groups.
And
they are developing solutions and have over the decades solutions to poverty and despair, drug addiction, predatory violence.
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And the Woodson Center has been a source of technical support.
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The one thing, Bob, that we've talked about is, I mean, I think Black Lives Matter, the organization, is a very dangerous organization for the one reason, just this one reason alone, and there's a lot, they are saying that we need to reimagine policing.
I'm all for getting rid of bad police officers, 100%.
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But the people who are at the bottom end of the scale, who have the real crime in their area and the gangs and the shootings, they can't move and they're the ones being abandoned.
So you started this.
And will you bring Sylvia in on this and
introduce her?
Yes, I will.
As I said, that one of the ways, if you look at the polling, 80% of black Americans, particularly low-income black women, are opposed to defunding the police.
60% of blacks do not believe racial discrimination is a principal barrier to their successful future.
And so,
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And she can tell you herself why she got involved and the important role that we can talk about what they're doing.
So Sylvia, why don't you share with them why you got involved with this?
What happened with your daughter, and just how it happened?
Sylvia Bennett Stone, welcome to the program.
Good morning.
Well, I'm going to start out by saying, I'm well this morning.
You know,
it's challenging because it's Mother's Day weekend,
and I am a mother who lost her child to mother.
I
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hold on hold on hold on uh to this to the uh main studio can is is am i hearing this breakup just on my end or is this what it sounds like on air it's breaking up can let me take a quick break and let's reestablish a connection sylvia because i don't want to miss a word that you're saying uh and if she's on a speakerphone have her pick it up or get to a hard line uh because what she has to say is really important especially as she just said on Mother's Day weekend.
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We are back, and we are joined by Sylvia Bennett Stone, the executive director of Voices for Black Mothers United.
Sylvia, I know it's painful on this weekend to talk about what got you to where you are, but can you start there?
Yes, absolutely, and thank you for having me on.
I can
play over and over in my head on July 4th, 2004,
when my daughter and her best friend were shot with one bullet, caught in the crossfire of guys shooting at each other.
Now, I played this back over in my head because
if the police was there, could they have de-escalated and stopped them from shooting or deterred them from shooting?
And perhaps if that happened, the girls would be alive today.
Now,
I just
can't imagine communities
without the police right now.
And yes, I do agree with you in terms of activities that some police officers may do that is outside of what they're sworn to do.
However, we need the police to regulate in our communities.
We really do.
The number of shootings right now and violent killings is just off the charts.
I have talked to so many African-American parents and grandparents that say they are afraid of some of the youth in their community.
And it's a new kind of thing
that
there is this
drug culture that has taken over.
And if your kids don't get caught up into it, your kids can be killed by it easily.
And they need the police.
I talked to some people who were marching with Black Lives Matter and didn't believe any of the stuff that Black Lives Matter says politically.
But they were, I said, why are you here then?
And they said, because we need help.
Somebody needs to do something.
We need help.
So how is your organization,
how can we help you?
And what is your organization designed to do?
Okay, we have three initiatives, three primary initiatives.
And one, that is advocacy.
We want to help heal those who've been affected by violence.
Their children or family member have been killed.
And we want to help them heal and get better.
But that healing also helps heal their communities, it helps heal their surroundings.
When someone sees me doing better and me doing positive things in my community, we're hoping that becomes contagious.
And that's the healing and the advocacy part of it.
We have
before we before we move on, I don't know if you remember.
I think it was about the same time you lost your daughter, the Amish shooting
where all of those girls were shot, and the healing that happened in that community was phenomenal because of forgiveness and perspective.
And
I just feel, I mean, I don't want to live like the Amish, but I feel like we'd be a lot better off if we were Amish, you know, and had that attitude.
And if we learn to forgive, you know,
one of the things that that I teach our youth in the community is this five self-check.
You know, one, know your triggers.
Don't go into communities, you know, you are having issues with someone over there.
Those are the type things that bring
and make this escalate into something that someone is going to lose their lives.
And
it's not even necessary.
I can guarantee you those two guys who were shooting and killed our girls probably don't even know what they were shooting over at this point in time.
But yet I'm left with a lifetime of a broken heart
because of something that could have been solved or resolved.
But yet, me, myself, as other
thousands and thousands of other mothers, we're left with broken hearts.
Could you imagine the mother of a two-year-old who were sleeping in their crib and a bullet goes through the window and kills that child?
No.
No, I can't.
Broken hearts.
I mean,
I can't.
I've thought about this many times with, you know, we've had problems in the family or whatever, and I've thought about, I can't lose this child.
I mean,
I don't know how you even go on.
And especially when it's something like your kid being shot in a crib, they weren't involved in anything.
It's
it's faith-shaking almost.
And you have more and more
children, innocent children, that are dying just like that.
So when you said a minute ago, you said if the police could have intervened, maybe my daughter and her friend would be alive.
How do you deal with the, like, for instance, the story in Ohio recently where the police did intervene, and I think they did the right thing, but now they're being charged as killers of this young teenager, but they were trying to stop the other teenager from being stabbed.
How do you reconcile this?
I
personalized it, okay?
I've experienced something that was similar.
My granddaughter, new high school freshman,
some of the girls didn't like her, and they went to her house to jump on her with brass knuckles,
sticks, whatever.
And thank God her mother was at home.
And the mother had to actually get to the point to where she had to intervene with bringing her gun outside saying, you're not going to hurt my daughter.
This is not going to happen.
And me,
me myself, as a mother who's had to put a child in a grave, I can't even imagine putting another child in a grave because
someone else's actions who cannot to articulate how to defuse a situation, how to get out of a situation, how to walk away from a situation.
I will not.
So I told her to do whatever you have to do to protect my granddaughter.
Oh, my gosh.
Note to the producers, can we please bump the next guest to Monday?
I know it's specifically for Friday, but I think it will still work on Monday.
And deepest apologies, but I just want to continue our conversation here with Sylvia because we only got to
one of the three points of what your organization is doing, and I think it's important that you express it.
Can you stay with us for a few more minutes?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay.
We're talking about the Voices of Black Mothers United initiative, and I don't think that this is an organization that's going to get very much mainstream coverage
because it is looking at a different way of dealing with what we're dealing with, and they will actually talk about the violence that is happening in their own communities.
And it's got to stop.
And anyone who has an answer that is based in common sense and common decency, I want to support.
I think you feel the same way.
You can find out more about it at voicesofblackmothers.com.
Also, woodsoncenter.org.
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Hello, America.
It's Friday, and it's Mother's Day weekend.
We have Bob Woodson, founder and president of the Woodson Center, author of a new book coming out, Red, White, and Black, that is...
I haven't read it yet, but I'm guessing it's a must-read.
Sylvia Bennett Stone is also with us.
She's the executive director of Voices of Black Mothers United.
You can find them at voicesofblackmothersunited.com.
Sylvia,
I want to talk to you about the three pillars.
And
I'm going over the website and the first one
is advocacy.
And
if I'm not mistaken, it's advocacy, family community intervention, and positive police training.
So let's start with advocacy.
What does that mean?
Okay, advocacy meaning that we actually
go into the community and try to help heal the community.
We start with the mothers who've lost children's daughters and then we report
that over into the community where the mothers are healing, the community can heal.
As long as we hold on to anger and
unforgiveness, and that resonates
and it resonates outside of our homely swell.
We're losing you again.
I don't know if you've moved to another place.
So you go into the community and okay, and
you have volunteers from faith-based organizations, but
excuse me for saying, but some faith-based organizations are less faith-based and more political-based.
But you are talking about people who are really faith-based and you are bringing peace to the community and to the family.
That's correct.
We're talking about the faith-based that goes outside of the church walls.
We're talking about the faith base who's willing to walk the streets and talk to the drug dealer and talk to the drug user.
to say, this is not life.
This is not living.
Because that escalates over into violence every time.
Yeah.
Let me bring Bob in real quick.
Bob, do you have any results on going in and meeting with drug dealers and meeting with drug addicts and seeing positive results?
Absolutely.
If you go on our website and
Violence Free Zone, Milwaukee, where we have our violence free zone efforts where neighborhood leaders, many of them ex-offenders themselves, through God's grace, they became transformed and they are witnesses to others that transformation is possible.
Six months ago, the Alliance of Concerned Men, one of our groups in DC, Glenn, actually
went into one of the worst crime areas and for three months, they didn't have a single act of violence.
Three months.
Now that should have been celebrated, but it was reported and ignored.
And there are other islands of excellence that have been created by people indigenous who are faith-centered but also i want sylvia to talk about the other initiative where mothers are working with the police at the site of a homicide and and as a consequence of of changing the way the police process that they have dramatically increased the number of closures so people are encouraged to testify.
I wish Sylvia would talk about the role of mothers are playing actually working with the police at a homicide scene and acting as a liaison with the families.
And as a result of building this trust, they have had some dramatic results of closing homicides.
Sylvia, can you talk about that?
Yes.
What happens at a homicide scene, you have the family who's just been notified their loved one
has been killed.
A lot of times their loved one is still lying there on the ground.
We partner with Chief Rodney Monroe, he's an ex-police chief, who saw the need to change how the homicide scene is processed.
And one of the things that he brought to the forefront is that it's very difficult for them as a police officer to assess the homicide scene and hope to get clues to close those homicides and yet deal with a distraught family.
We as advocates, we will go in with the police to homicide scenes because we mothers who've lost children know better how to deal with a family that's distraught and has just received news that their child or loved one is deceased and been killed, actually.
I think that's remarkable.
What are the results of that?
Closure.
The police are allowed to get clues to help solve that homicide more so than them dealing with a distraught family and then the clues and the evidence is messed up on the other end.
So they deal with their job and we deal with the family in terms of guiding guiding them and calming them and getting them to the point where they know that the police at that point is not their enemy.
And if they know that, then a lot of times
the police can get information from the family that helped close their homicide.
So is this part of the second part of the initiative, family and community intervention?
Or is this promoting positive policing?
Because those are the last two.
It is
actually
a little bit of both, but it's community intervention more so because we are out there hands-on, boots on the ground with the community.
But another part of our community intervention is actually doing work
in the community as a prevention measure.
In what way?
We have
mothers who's organized as an organization and what we do is we try to engage police and community in conversation.
We just had an event in fact in Alabama where the police came together with mothers who lost children to violence.
There was a conversation, so each side listened to one another.
And as
a result of that, the police sheriff department actually the next day reinstituted sensitivity training
of how a police
officer should actually deal with the families.
So it is,
you're not, you're approaching the police in a different way to where it's not an adversarial.
It is, look, we have a problem in the community, and you may not understand some of this and so let's work with you because we don't want this to happen right yeah that's correct we are 100% supporting the police We're saying that, yes, there are some issues among police departments and particular police officers.
However, that is not the majority.
The majority are good police officers who sworn to protect.
So we we have to have that conversation where the community break down those barriers and those defenses against police to where they can do what they've sworn to do.
So Sylvia, if I may,
in beginning to understand what's happening,
the communities that are under attack, where their kids are being killed, that's a lot of parents that are grieving and are probably not the ones to be getting good psychiatric advice or care on a regular basis.
And so they're prey to people who would prey upon them for a political agenda or whatever kind of agenda.
And when these attacks continue to happen, it's not just that it's one kid
being shot, like it would be maybe in my neighborhood.
It's that that kid has been shot and four other people on my block or in my neighborhood are also grieving and none of us have been dealt with.
Nobody's actually dealing with the problem.
And so it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
And when you're going and you're looking for blame and everything else, I mean, if you don't have help,
you know, you're prone to all kinds of things.
Is this a too simple of an explanation or am I on the right path at all?
You're on the right path.
One of the things that we do
in our advocacy department, we actually help people get mental health services.
In fact,
at our community forums, we bring in a mental health specialist on the spot to where
the victims can actually talk with them.
and understand that it's not
a taboo on you if you have to have mental health services.
That is part of healing.
And if we can
to encourage that, you have more people getting better.
I would imagine, Sylvia,
just because we went through some family therapy, we had
a suicide attempt in my family, in my household with my children this last year.
And when we went through the therapy with it, he said, what's your biggest fear?
And I said that it happens and I didn't do something.
I didn't know what to do.
That somehow or another I'm responsible.
I have to believe that, I mean, you told the story of your granddaughter.
You know, a mom who comes out and thinks, I don't want to bring a gun or I don't want to do this.
If you make one mistake or you even think that you've made a mistake, that's got to weigh you down.
And that's not something you deal with quickly.
That has got to fester in you for a long time.
It's hard.
I mean, I just can't even, words can't even explain how difficult it is.
However, It's more difficult putting a child in the ground
and saying goodbye.
It's more difficult doing that than to make a sound decision.
Should that mother stood there and allowed eight girls to beat her daughter?
No.
Not by any means.
Is that okay?
I don't think people understand the stress.
I mean, I didn't know this this until I went to your website.
26% of parents die within the first 10 years after experiencing the trauma of losing a child.
Absolutely.
That's epidemic
kind of numbers, especially in
Chicago.
That's, I mean, that's an epidemic.
It is.
It's really an epidemic.
I can tell you, the mother of my daughter's friend died right after trials.
She literally died of a broken heart.
And I know how easy that can happen because the pain is so unbearable.
It's so unbearable.
You don't know
what to do.
It's not a natural order that a parent buries a child.
Sylvia,
my heart goes out to you, especially this weekend, and to all of the mothers in your situation.
Thank you so much for being on.
I'd like to further a conversation, and Bob, the same with you.
I know we're probably not
the press that would be the most helpful, but we want to be as helpful as we can be.
And I have a feeling you're not going to get mainstream press
to really expose what you're doing, but I think it's really important, and we'd like to help in any way that we possibly can.
Please, let's continue this conversation.
If you would like to find out more about this, or you would like to make a donation and help the people who are actually trying to heal, you can go to woodsoncenter.org, that's woodsoncenter.org, or voicesofblackmothersunited.com.
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It's Mother's Day weekend.
I lost my mother when I was about 15 years old.
And it is tough.
It is tough.
It's tough to lose a parent at any age.
If your parent or even your adopted parent, because I have adoptive moms and I have other mothers in my life, mothers of my children, this is the weekend to heal any rift that you might have.
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