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Hello, America.

Last night we did a very important show on the Wednesday night special and this could be considered part two of that.

Don't worry if you didn't see part one, you'll still understand part two.

Part two today is the program is pretty much being dedicated, probably 90% of it, to the biggest problem I think we're facing right now that we need to fix right now.

Everything else is on fire, yes.

But if we lose our schools, if I mean, we've already lost them, if we don't fix our schools, if we don't get control of critical race theory in our schools right now, our country is over for all time.

That might sound like hyperbole, but it is not.

Last night, I had a guest on the TV show, Azra Nomani, and we only had a couple of minutes to talk.

And the one thing I really wanted her to explain to you is this nexus between radicalized, I didn't even say this,

Islamicists

and

the CRT in our classrooms.

And you need to understand that when you look at critical race theory, it is really truly only about the destruction of the West.

She's going to talk a little bit about that and what you can do to fight back.

We have a lot of answers for you today, including answers for my son.

He said, Dad, I'm getting hammered in school over gender and and sex.

Help me fight that.

And I said, you know what?

I got to talk to somebody to really get the real solid answers.

We're going to do that as well today.

A lot of answers and a lot of help for you as a parent.

Coming on today's broadcast, we begin in 60 seconds.

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Azra Nomani came to my attention years ago because she was the co-founder of the the Muslim reform movement.

She is a Muslim

and didn't like what was happening.

She knows the difference between Islam and an Islamist.

An Islamist wants

the Quran and a religious scholar to make all of the laws.

An Islamist believes the Constitution is nothing because it's not God's law from the Quran.

An Islamist will kill you for a difference of opinion.

They have no tolerance for a difference of opinion because they know they're on God's side and God is on their side.

It's very similar to the same kind of feeling that you get when you're talking to somebody now who is crazy climate change.

And I mean crazy climate change, but especially those who are on the bandwagon of critical race theory.

I hadn't tied these two together, but she did a while ago.

And she's now the vice president for strategy and investigations at Parents Defending Education.

She is also the editor of Indoctrination, the database and FOIA work,

co-founder of Coalition for TJ, a group of parents and community members in Virginia.

She is a former reporter for the Wall Street Journal.

She was the co-director of the Pearl Project, which did the investigation on Daniel Pearl, if you remember that.

She is fearless, and

I'm honored to have her on the program today.

Ezra, how are you?

Oh, thanks so much, Glenn.

And you know as well as I do that we

act even in the face of fear, right?

That's what courage is supposed to be because we tremble in our hearts.

face the backlash.

We have children.

We know that there can be retaliation and retribution, but courage definitely is acting even when you feel that tremble in your heart.

Somebody gave me some great advice once.

They said, where are your heroes?

They looked at my desk and my office and they said, where are the pictures of your heroes, even if it's your dad?

And I said,

what do you mean?

And they said, you won't make it if you're doing something really tough unless you're looking in the eyes of people who have walked those walks before.

And I really learned my lesson that people like Martin Luther King,

he wasn't fearless.

He was terrified much of his life.

He just knew, I have to do this.

I have to.

Yeah.

Yeah,'cause it's a human emotion that we can't

deny.

And yet,

even in the face of fear, soldiers, right, paramedics, police officers, are all of our front line warriors.

And then now us, the accidental activists, the

advocates for children, we have fear, but that's something I want to just let everyone know as we start this conversation, because to feel fear is normal and natural and an important mechanism, right, to protect ourselves.

But in this day, at Alzheimer's anyway, we have to still face that fear and still act.

So there is one thing about fear.

When you say our first responders or our firemen, our police, our

soldiers, they have one thing that Americans don't feel they have today, and that is a sense of camaraderie, a sense of belonging to a group.

You know, it would change a lot if they thought that they were alone, if the vast majority of our brave soldiers, et cetera, et cetera, felt they were alone.

It wouldn't be the same story.

And

I want to get to some of those organizations, some of them which you are involved in, and help provide sources where people will feel like they're not alone and they can make an actual difference.

But first I want you to address where we kind of left off yesterday.

We talked just briefly about the nexus between

Islamicists.

and critical race theory in schools.

Can you go into that?

Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, for listeners who don't know me, I'll just introduce myself just for a minute, just to give them context about what I carry in my heart.

You know, I was born as the first generation post-colonial in India in 1965.

My parents lived through British colonialism.

So you could say that they lived under, quote, white supremacy because the British were white and there were my parents who were, quote, people of color, right?

My father literally climbed a bunion tree to support Gandhi as he marched for

independence.

And let me say that I am a huge fan of Winston Churchill, but the guy was a monster in India.

He was a monster.

And, you know, the truth is, this is the realities, you know, of history, right?

But

my father...

carried in his heart hope.

My dad is 5'3 because he lived through the Bengal famine that a lot of listeners might not even know about, but it was a famine that was man-made exactly by the British government because they needed to divert food from India to the British Army.

So it was their survival.

Well,

my dad, even at that height,

had hope in his heart.

And he came to America and he became a student here to study nutrition to help people with food security issues and bring relief to humanity.

My mother came and then brought my brother and me.

They didn't come with a grudge in their heart, you know, against the, quote, systemic racism that had

held our country hostage, right, for so many years.

They came to create a new life.

And I just bring this up because there's this choice that we can all make about how we're going to navigate our futures.

And my parents made made this really bold and pioneering decision to

tap America's equality and vision for its citizens to improve the condition of our family.

And that's the family in which I grew up, right?

And

then

I was a

young Muslim girl, didn't go to my prom because I wasn't allowed to dance with the boys.

Never dated until I secretly did.

Never had a beer until my friend Danny Pearl introduced me to the delicacies of wheat beer.

But you know,

this is all just to say that, you know, we're all on these journeys.

And

then 9-11 happened and

my dear friend Danny was kidnapped and murdered.

And I had my reality check that, hey, there is this interpretation within Islam that is dangerous, that is laying siege to beautiful, innocent human beings like Danny.

And

I had to stand up and fight back.

And what I encountered is exactly what you did, Glenn.

You know, our biographies are completely different, but our analysis is similar, which is there is an interpretation within Islam that's problematic.

Just like in every other religion and every other society, there's there's an extremist strain.

But we got branded racist and Islamophobe.

And it was only last summer that I finally could put the pieces together that our Islamists, these people that you described really well, as folks who want Islam and religion in governance,

they use...

Not in governance, as the governance.

Yes, absolutely.

Exactly.

As governance.

We want Islamic state, basically.

So our examples out there in the world are the theocracies that are in Saudi Arabia, Qatar,

now emerging in Afghanistan again,

in Iran, exactly.

And what gets denied?

Women's rights, human rights, rights,

all minorities, exactly, all the, quote, liberal values that even I embraced growing up as a progressive bleeding heart liberal.

So

you and I both have faced this, and that's why I kind of remembered

this idea of fear, because they've come after you.

You know, they've come after your job, they've

come after your reputation.

Character assassination is their

modus apparandi, right?

They invented cancel culture.

But

I finally last summer got to really understand that what they did is they had no

defense really to their illiberal ideas.

So what they had to do was

create a defense.

And

one of your listeners actually put it really well in a tweet that

he wrote in response to the video you posted yesterday from our interview.

He said that they used critical race theory as a shield to protect their bad ideas.

And what they could do then is racialize Muslims, make us a race, so that you became racist if you criticize extremism.

And that is what we've faced over these last 20 years as we've grappled with this

just like industry, right, that calls everybody an Islamophobe if they dare to talk about the extremism issue.

So I got to take a one minute break and then I want to come back.

And if you can get into the meat, you said yesterday that you have seen school board members and people involved in education that you kind of scratched your head at first and went, wait a minute, why is this so popular with people you would say are Islamists?

What is the real goal?

Because I think when people understand the real goal for critical race theory, it's not about

making things fair for everybody.

It's not even really about equity,

which is a horrible idea in and of itself.

And I want you to get to what critical race theory in our schools is really all about and why these Islamists are involved, if you can.

We'll do that in one minute.

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and we have Azra Nomani on with us.

So, how is How is the Islamist movement involved at all, and why would they be involved with getting critical race theory into our schools?

Yeah, so Glenn, let me tell you how I realized this happened.

In the summer of 2020,

the Secretary of Education started secret meetings in order to eliminate the merit-based race-blind test at my son's high school in Northern Virginia called Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology.

It's the number one high school in America, creating scientists and inventors.

Yeah.

This method has become

replicated in San Francisco, Boston, New York, in order to destroy merit and advanced learning in the name of, quote, equity.

But this is...

They're saying that whiteness, it's important to understand when they say whiteness is a problem, what they mean are things like merit-based programs.

So

striving to achieve, actually achieving something, working for what you get.

That's the Western culture, and that's what they want destroyed.

Yeah, and ultimately, you know, it's a universal culture, right?

Also, because everybody, like in many cultures, strives to accomplish.

So you cannot attribute it simply to white supremacy as they're trying to do.

Because my family is a perfect example.

That's why I wanted to introduce your listeners to my family's story.

Because

we are 70% Asian at my son's school.

My family is emblematic of this story of immigrants pursuing the American dream.

But Glenn, get this.

That Secretary of Education, his name is Atif Carney.

I looked up his political contributions, and he is funded by the Islamist Network in Northern Virginia.

I was like,

what the heck?

Yeah.

So we only have like two minutes here.

And

I know we run out of time, but I...

I know.

I just leave you with this like, what?

I know.

You're like, wait a second.

I didn't expect this to go there.

Okay, let me quickly tell the listeners and you, what's going on is the Islamists are using this leftist agenda of critical race theory in order to bring in their agenda of

anti-Western curriculum, anti-Israel curriculum, pro-Palestinian, you know,

intifada type of material from California to Minnesota.

This is the danger.

Ultimately, it's an anti-American propaganda.

Right.

And this is, we are being made into Israel and the Palestinian situation.

We are being

broken up, and

you are a mean Israeli if you're just trying to defend yourself.

You're a horrible, racist state, and it's being done now to us, and this is how it's being done.

And the left, this is why I believe the left has embraced Islam or Islamists

so hard, is because they both have the same goal.

When we come back, I would just.

Sectarianism.

Yes, when we come back, I just want to spend maybe a couple of minutes with you on just tell me the organizations that people can join so they don't feel alone and they can actually make

some

progress on this.

It is vital, America, that you get critical race theory out of your school, and it is everywhere in our schools.

Everywhere.

More in a minute.

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Let's be clear: wokeism is an attack not just on our kids' education, but on their psychological health.

It seeks to make them angry, confused, emotional, contemptuous of their community and society, and unable to use logic and

reason.

Wokeism will turn our kids into failures.

This attack on our children takes many forms.

The cult of anti-racism, which demands that they feel either shame or guilt or resentment and bitterness, depending on which racial category they're assigned, and tells kids they're racist if they don't obey.

Equity demands aggressive and illegal racial discrimination against Asians and whites.

Action civics, which trains kids to think and act like radical activists rather than curious learners, and so on.

This is why Parents Defending Education was put together to try to find some solutions and first empower one another.

And that is what we want to spend the last couple of minutes with, Azra Nomani,

who helped start this organization.

She's here to give us some ideas on, as parents,

how can we not feel so alone?

What can we join?

What should we do?

Yes.

See, Glenn, beyond being this global radio host and personality, you are a parent.

And I want you too to go to defendinged.org and become a member of our organization because we are connecting parents.

In that concept that you began the show with, and you said, you know, first responders feel like they're part of a group.

We want parents to know that they are in a collective, that we are the mama bears and papa bears protecting our cubs and all cubs everywhere.

And so we created this organization in order to let folks know that they're not alone alone and then do the thing that you're so good at doing, which is follow the money and document, document, document.

And so we've created this map that you mentioned, Indoctrination, and it chronicles district by district incidents that we're tracking and parent groups that have emerged to fight this indoctrination.

It's just phenomenal.

Every day after your

interview, dozens of people have written to us.

Where is that map?

Do I find that at.

Yes, go to Defending Ed.

DefendingEd.org.

Okay, I'm going to go there right now.

Okay, so

go there right now.

What is it that?

Filter.

Okay, so what is it that?

Yeah.

Okay, all right.

So that's what you do.

You filter

and you

defend groups.

And so, for example,

ed.org.

So, for example, like you had this amazing mom and educator from the California group, Educators for Quality and Equality, they're on there.

Lori Myers, you had her on as a guest, I think.

You go to Maryland, and you're going to find the Chinese American Parent Association of Howard County.

You're going to find No Left Turn chapters, another organization that's emerged.

Boston, you've got the Boston Parents Coalition for Academic Excellence.

It's phenomenal because there's so many parents like us who are enraged and really activated.

And so that's our goal is to connect folks and empower them.

I'm still trying to get to.

There it is.

Okay, so the indoctrination map,

all you do is, I see these, these are chapters all around?

Yeah, there's chapters all around.

And then we also have incidents of critical race theory in our school districts.

So every day we've got parents reporting what is being taught to their kids.

Just today I was going through a case in Texas, and then yesterday we met with these families in Michigan.

You know, it's just phenomenal how much people are now waking up to this threat that we have.

So tell me, you know, we all gathered together and it seemed to just happen so quickly, the idea of Common Core and how bad that was.

How bad do you think

this is in comparison to Common Core?

It's exactly the same, Glenn, because Common Core was developed by institutions and then implanted into school districts around the country through school policies.

That's exactly the same thing that's happening with this, quote, anti-racism teaching.

In just over this past year with George Floyd's death they have had the opportunity to bring these curriculum changes like Black Lives Matter at schools into the classroom and we are trying to monitor this as parents but we're taking care of our children during COVID at the same time right so so they've used remote learning and virtual school board meetings to put us on mute but but the joy is that parents are unpressing that mute button and saying, we're loud and we're here and we're going to fight this.

And I want everyone to know that this is an industry.

And just like any kind of indoctrination has a

hub, this has hubs too around the country.

And

we're going to expose them.

Okay, I want you to go to

defendinged.org.

Effendinged.org.

Thank you so much, Ezra.

We'll talk again.

Keep up the good work.

I love it.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

You bet.

Stu, let me go to a couple of other things that we're just, we are sweeping so many things today,

and we're going to have to go into them in depth a little bit tomorrow.

There's a couple of stories here that the House Committee has now advanced the statehood for D.C.

And I love this.

I guess we don't have to wait for that.

We don't need to wait for any kind of a study to be done.

They have the House Democrats are going to unveil legislation today to expand the number of justices on the Supreme Court.

Yeah, they're going to go for 13, which would be fantastic.

They're just going to add four.

Shockingly, I'm sure they'll just do it in a bipartisan manner to maintain the balance of the court.

It's just the

same thing.

I think 13 is the appropriate number.

It's nothing to do with.

Oh, one in control.

No, not at all.

You know, we started as a nation with six Supreme Court members.

And then it was expanded, I think, to seven.

And

Jefferson came in and he restored it to six.

Why don't we just restore it back to six?

Yeah.

I mean, I'm sure they'd love that.

Why don't we just, I mean, I know.

Yeah.

And we'll just take the ones who have been there the longest

or, or, you know, are,

you know, like

we'll get rid of the minimum, the middle ones.

Sure.

Okay.

Would you support

a constitutional amendment that keeps it at nine?

Yes.

I think I would too.

I don't.

I just, I think this is a ridiculous option that you can just, you know, expand it and contract it based on who's control the government at the time.

Like, that's a silly, silly.

It hasn't been done since Abraham Lincoln.

Yeah.

And Abraham Lincoln was trying, because of Dred Scott, he was trying to change the

makeup of the court.

And so he added one.

But that was the only time that we've really ever, that's the last time that we did it.

And that's what brought us to nine,

I think.

Or he may have brought it to 10, and then it was reversed right after.

Well, I think it should clearly be an odd number.

I think that that is the only thing.

I mean, it could be five or nine or 13 in theory, but like we've had nine for a long time.

It really shouldn't be this battle where it's possible to just switch out the number of them.

I mean, that just seems completely ridiculous to me.

Here's what I would be for.

Here's what I would be for.

A constitutional amendment than making it 13 or 9 or 7 or 40, but a constitutional amendment.

Not this, hey, we just won the House and the Senate and the White House, and so we're going to do this.

No, no, you want to change that's progressives you want to change

The

way we do things you either pass the law or if it affects the Constitution you change the Constitution you want you want to get rid of guns?

Okay, all right amend the Constitution Yeah, you have to do that.

That's why it's important.

The process is important.

We saw this with what happened in Canada.

Canada had, you know, they're putting fences around churches who are having services.

Right.

And here, we're having a bunch of these.

There's been five of them so far that have been overturned, where, for example, the most recent one in California, home Bible study, could not be banned because Gavin Newsom felt like it.

Right.

So we actually have these protections.

It's one of the reasons why our country has been so strong for so long.

And, you know, it actually works here.

I mean, not always, and it's not perfect.

It is the Constitutional Amendment.

I think this is the genius of our Constitution.

The Constitutional Amendments are made because, as Jefferson said, it's not right that we impose our will

after our death on a whole nation.

This is what we think is right.

However, if you want to change it, then all you have to do is amend the Constitution.

And so it was meant to slow things down.

The whole Constitution is meant to slow lawmakers down.

To slow things down and to make sure that one party or one branch couldn't start dominating everything.

It's the last check and balance.

We hold these truths to be self-evident.

Now, if everybody wants to change that, or I think it's what, 70%,

70% of states have to be in for a constitutional amendment.

If you want to change that, then do it, but do it the right way.

Right now, this is the only way we can stop things, is having it go to the people.

And that's why they're changing everything.

That's why they're changing, they introduced statehood for Washington, D.C.

yesterday.

Everything that they said, that we said they would do and they said they would not do, they're doing it.

This is not a moderate administration by any stretch of the imagination.

Oh, no.

I mean, this is the most radical administration we've had in American history.

It certainly could wind up being that way.

Wardrow Wilson is up there, but it's one of them.

Yeah, and I would certainly argue Lyndon Johnson in some ways should be there.

But

I guess the larger point, though, is, you know, because Wardrow Wilson really changed the direction of the country in a lot of ways.

Biden's just continuing the direction of the country where we've been going over the past few decades.

He's just putting the final nails in it.

Yeah, I mean, he's accelerating it.

And And an incredible thing.

If you get DC statehood, you then have two more senators and representatives in Congress and the Senate, and those guys will never be conservatives.

Never.

So you ensure that the Democrats hold the Senate almost indefinitely.

If you change the makeup of the Supreme Court, you make the Supreme Court a political weapon.

And that is always been the problem with the Supreme Court.

Once you politicize the Supreme Court, it becomes

a nine, or in their case, 13 people that decide how you're going to live your life.

Well, wait a minute.

They shouldn't have that power.

Their power is to say to both of the other branches, you can't do that because the Constitution, they're the ref.

They're not another branch that makes policy.

They are supposed to be the ref.

Hey, you two, flag on the field.

You want to do that?

Do it the right way.

But that's not what they're being made into.

All right, more in just a second here.

And

we've got a great hour for you, especially if you're a parent coming up next, trying to answer the questions that your kids are being talked to about.

I don't know how to answer all of these things.

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And I wish my son was here because I'd like him to actually ask these questions.

But

he came to me, oh, I don't know, about a week ago, and he said, Dad,

I'm getting killed by my friends on gender and sex.

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sex is

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I know somebody who is like the leading scientist, literal scientist scientist on this.

And her name is Dr.

Deborah Soe.

And she's an author, The End of Gender.

She's the host of the Dr.

Deborah Soe podcast.

And I want to have a conversation with her that I could have had privately because it was really meant for me to advise my son, but I think you're probably struggling with many of the same things.

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So if you're a parent, you may have already experienced this.

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And so this, this, this is really, I could have done this in a private phone call if she would have, if she would have done this with me and my son, but I thought it was really important because i know i'm not alone how do you equip your kids to even just not be a pariah

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Deborah Soe is with us.

She's the author of the book, The End of Gender, the host of the Dr.

Deborah So podcast.

She did a podcast with me.

Deborah, what was it, about a year ago?

Maybe, I don't even know.

It's time is flying now.

Oh, my God.

I know.

But anyway, it's fascinating.

If you want to go really in-depth, look for that podcast.

You can go to youtube.com forward slash Glenn Beck

or, you know, download it wherever you get your podcast and listen to that whole hour.

Deborah, thank you so much for being on with me today.

You heard the story of my son, Ruby, Sarah's daughter.

She's 12.

She had the same thing.

And we don't even know what we're doing.

We don't even know how to argue this.

Can you help us on the gender versus sex argument for our kids?

Yes, that's what I'm here for.

And thank you for having me back.

You bet.

So I find it so terrifying that this is being taught in kids' curriculum.

I mean, my book basically talks about this the entire way through, about how activists are intentionally targeting kids with this ideology.

So, I guess the way I could start is to explain it for your audience and then maybe how they might go about approaching it with their kids.

So, the difference between sex and gender, sex, biological sex, is determined by biology.

So, this is determined by gametes, which are mature reproductive cells.

So, you have gametes?

Gametes, yes.

Okay.

So, there are eggs and there are sperm.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then, gender identity refers to how we feel in relation to our biological sex.

So statistically speaking, 99% of us identify as our birth sex.

So you, Glenn, you were born male, as far as I know, and you identify as male.

For that 1% of the population who does not identify as their birth sex, these are transgender people or intersex people.

Some intersex people identify as transgender.

So they

identify as the opposite sex.

so someone might be born male and identify as female or vice versa and then you have some people who and intersex refers to people who are born with a medical condition in which they possess both male and female anatomy and intersex that used to be called hermaphroditism right yeah yes that's not considered a sensitive term today so intersex is usually preferred or people with a difference in sex development

and then there are some people who identify as a third gender

so this an example of this would be non-binary or gender fluid, or some people use the term genderqueer.

I don't like that term because I consider queer to be a slur.

But

science shows that there are two sexes, two genders.

I say people can identify however they want, but from a scientific perspective, there are two.

And so

if we stay on science,

this is the part that was all falling apart because I said to my son, chromosomes,

You can scientifically

find out if you are a male or a female in 99% of

the cases.

Scientifically, because of the way you're built, you're either male or female.

That's science and biology.

Gender is different.

And it didn't used to be different, but I don't agree with, you know, you know, identifying as a hundred different things because I believe there's only two.

And I believe if you want to be transgendered,

you scientifically are not the other gender, but you are choosing to be that other gender.

And, you know, some parts have been changed on you.

And that's fine.

And I don't hate you for it.

And, you know, whatever.

But you're not.

a female if you were a male.

That doesn't fly anymore, does it?

No.

So biological sex, the concept of biological sex has been deemed hateful, and I don't think it needs to be.

I understand why, because I think it can be used in a very insensitive way to marginalize people who identify as transgender.

But from a scientific perspective, someone who, say, a trans woman, she may identify as female, and I'm happy to acknowledge her as female.

But from a biological perspective, she was born male.

So her sex does...

Wait, wait, wait, so wait, wait, wait, wait.

Because

this is what I'm saying to my son.

Look, if I know you and I, you know, even if I don't know you and you're identifying as

a female and you were a male,

you still biologically, still scientifically, you are a male.

However, if you identify as a female, I have no problem saying, hi, ma'am, how are you?

You know, whatever, unless that's offensive now,

and identifying.

However, if push comes to shove and my son, or I'm, you know, in a court of law or whatever, and my son says, she looks awfully manly, I would say, don't say that.

That's not nice.

But he used to be a he, and now he is, he's had surgery and he's trying to be a woman, and that's his choice.

And it is, you know, it's fine that he's his choice.

But I can't, under oath or, you know, I'm not going to be a part of a lie.

Am I wrong on that?

No, no, I agree with that.

I mean, I have a chapter in the end of gender that talks about the differences between women who are born women and trans women, because nowadays the narrative is that there are no differences.

And again, I think we can talk about these differences, as you mentioned, in a way that is compassionate, but still also be scientifically accurate.

There are differences, and those differences play out in meaningful ways.

And I think, especially when it comes to this ideology, it's extremely confusing, and it's dishonest to tell people otherwise.

So how do we, now let's talk to our kids.

Your kid sits down with you, Deborah, and says, mom,

I don't,

I'm being called hateful because I'm talking about science.

And they're saying sex doesn't matter.

It's all about gender.

What do I say?

What I would suggest saying to a child is that

I would would say from as young as an age you can, let them know that what they're being taught in school may not actually reflect reality, which is really sad to have to say, but plant the seed so that they know and that they feel they can come and talk to you and ask questions.

Because

they are going, I mean, this is, they're targeting kids in kindergarten now.

I heard you speak about how this is in first grade curriculum.

It's completely inappropriate.

And this is something that's probably going to be with them throughout their education.

I mean, it's not going to be a one-time thing.

If it's not in, say, anti-bullying curriculum or other aspects of their coursework, it's going to be in talks where they bring people to the school to

bring awareness to these issues, which I think is good, but the issue is it goes way too far, right?

When they're teaching kids things that are not factually true, and like you said, 100 genders or however many people, everyone's gender food.

So I would say let them know that the science says that there are two sexes, two genders.

For the

most part, gender and sex are the same.

And as you said, with gender reveal parties, those are actually sex reveal parties because an unborn child cannot tell an adult which gender they are.

Yeah, but wait, that's new, right?

I mean, gender and sex used to be the same thing.

Right?

Yeah, for the most part.

And I think sometimes people will use the word gender because they don't want to use the word sex because sex has that connotation with human sexuality and they don't want to use that word.

But I think the separation between sex and gender is this greater push from trans activism.

But then there's also this weird conflation because now what some activists will say is that a trans person, so a trans woman is biologically female, which is not true.

And I don't think it should be considered bigot to say that because it's just not factually true.

So there's so much confusion about it.

And then I would just say, yeah,

let your kids know.

People can identify as a third gender if they want or whatever, but again,

be kind to these people, but science is what you're doing.

Of course.

So we're talking to Dr.

Deborah.

So she is a sex neurologist, neuroscientist, I should say.

And she has written a great deal about this.

Have you ever thought about writing something either for parents or for kids?

And when I say kids, I mean, you know, teenagers that are just being bombarded with this stuff.

I've gotten so many requests from parents to do something like that.

I would say the end of gender is written.

The feedback I've gotten has been so positive, and people have said to me that they can fully understand what I'm saying.

It was written in a way that makes the science almost fun to read, which made me very happy to hear.

So I would say teenagers could even read the end of gender.

I would love to do something for younger, like

school-age.

I mean, I guess teenagers are technically school age, but even younger.

because

it's crazy.

It's crazy.

The basic information like this, you would think that putting them in school would take care of it, but that's not the case anymore.

And when they say, that's not what science says, science doesn't say that.

When they start to argue that, you're on rock-solid ground to say, no,

you're wrong about that.

Science shows that that transgender girl is not a girl.

She still has the makeup of

a male athlete.

Or not.

Correct.

Correct.

I mean, I would say

that's another super contentious issue.

But again, I think we have to be able to talk about it because there are serious implications in this case for girls who are competing against them.

Yeah.

So

are you on solid ground with the science on that?

Yeah, what I would say is actually in my book, I have all of the citations.

So you can use that as a reference because I would have colleagues who would say to me, what do I do when I go into these meetings with the principal or administration?

And they say the quote unquote new science backs up what they're teaching.

And I said, well, that was the inspiration of my book was to offer a reference to people who just want to know objectively what is the truth.

All the citations are there, so you can look up the studies yourself and you can bring it to them and say, this is why your curriculum or your policies are not fact-based.

But yeah, when it comes to sports, especially, I'm just aghast at what has been happening lately.

It's just,

it's unbelievable.

How's your life?

Is it settled down some?

Are you still getting as much hate as you used to?

How's your life?

As much as I ever have, but I just get, I've gotten used to it at this point.

And I just feel that the most remarkable thing is that it's always the same criticisms.

Either they lie about what I've said, they lie about what's in the book.

They'll explicitly say, critics will explicitly say things, claim I've said things that I've said the exact opposite

of.

Or they'll just do personal attacks.

They'll call me names, which tells me that they don't actually have a point and that they can't actually argue with what I'm saying.

I recently gave a talk at the Oxford Union and it blew my mind the extent to which some students went trying to get that talk deplatformed.

And so I'm super grateful I was given the go-ahead to speak by the President James Price.

And,

you know, there are some people who will stand up against it.

And you, Lennon, thank you for having me on.

I mean, you've had me on multiple times, and we just have to keep

going.

Yeah, we do.

It's frightening.

You know, your book is called The End of Gender, but we are looking at the end of truth.

We really are looking at the end of truth on so many fronts.

Yeah.

Yeah, we really are.

And I mean, it's not just with, I mean, how old is your son?

He is 16 now.

16.

So, I mean, if he goes on to, we spoke a bit about this last time.

Once you get to university, it is no different.

And this is in the academic sciences, even.

So

it's crazy to me the extent to which knowledge now is being

basically taken hostage because it's not about just advocating for equal rights, which I think is a good thing.

I mean, I used to be very much in favor of social justice when I was younger.

I've come to a bit of a different perspective on social justice now, and I think it's actually quite harmful.

It's the fact that

there's no debate, there's no attempt to understand even the other side or whether your perspective is correct in terms of activism.

Activists just really want to shut down people who disagree with them, and they want to contort science to fit whatever agenda they have.

It's really disturbing, and it's something that I unfortunately don't see getting better anytime soon.

Dr.

Deborah Soe, thank you so much.

She's the host of the Dr.

Deborah Soe podcast and the author of a book that we all have to read, The End of Gender.

Thank you very much, Deborah.

I appreciate it.

You bet.

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and the vaccines.

There's a new poll out that shows that 23% of Americans are now less confident in the vaccines because of what they did with Johnson ⁇ Johnson.

I mean,

it's insane when you look at the actual numbers.

Yeah, I mean, you know, we're talking the old dumb and dumber clip, you know, it's about one in a million.

You're telling me there's a chance.

There's a chance.

Like, that's basically what we're talking.

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And again, they have no real idea for sure that it's even caused by the vaccine.

So it's an incredibly rare side effect.

We all know that every medication has the possibility of a negative side effect.

But when you compare it to the risks for

an ongoing pandemic,

the only real decision to be made is if you were a very young person at the very youngest ages of eligibility in an area where COVID wasn't really an issue, you could make an argument that's a pretty close case as to whether this would be

a risk reward profile for you.

But I mean, you know, if you're anyone who's getting the Johnson ⁇ Johnson vaccine anyway is probably going to be older, and there's no evidence of this whatsoever.

And it does hurt confidence.

You know, luckily, we have the luxury of having two other completely different

vaccines that are totally a different type and don't have any of these side effects.

So, you know, we have a luxury of a big supply of those, so it shouldn't really, you know, but it screws with people's heads, you know.

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Likely, at least for a while, for sure.

Right.

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The latest science seems to indicate the best case scenario would be one dose, not two.

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uh if you're getting a loan to build the house buy all of the supplies now uh i mean you're risking because

you know you're you're you're buying in advance and some people are saying the price is going to go down what makes you think that well it always does oh really well it always hasn't been like this either it's never been like this all of the things going on around the world um so

people are um

buying homes and now they can't afford the home because there's a shortage of them speaking of shortages more food shortages are on the way uh that is because As the COVID crisis heated up, the demand for meat increased.

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Remember this about a year ago?

Now, analysts are predicting that a shortage of pork could send the hot dog and bacon prices soaring if it can be found

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But one of the chlorine plants, in fact, the largest chlorine plant in the country,

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I don't know if you heard this, Stu, but Chevron was promised by the state that they would never have a power outage.

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would you believe the state if they told you it's a 100% guarantee that we will never have a power outage?

No, I would not.

I wouldn't take it.

Precautions on my own side.

Yeah, I think.

Now, maybe if I'm somebody who's just

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You'll never have a power outage.

Okay,

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Yeah.

You know,

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is skyrocketing.

At the same time,

jobs are coming back.

And you can't hire anybody because you're not paying them enough.

Wait a minute.

Really?

Look at the unemployment numbers.

There's a problem getting people to go back to work?

Yeah.

Because basically you're unemployment now because of Biden, you can make about $20 an hour on unemployment insurance.

So if you're working an average 40-hour week, you're making, you know, $20 an hour.

Well, why would I go take a job that's going to pay me $9, $13, hell, even $15?

Why would I take that job?

I'm losing $5 an hour?

I don't think so.

All of these things that are happening, all of these things are happening, are,

in my view,

a way to accelerate the universal basic income idea.

All of these problems, with an exception of the Chevron plant, well, no, even that one was man-made.

That was stupid.

But all of these problems are coming because of our policies.

And I told you years ago, there's going to come a time where in this place where it's a giant crunch

of

the industrial revolution, except now it's the technological revolution, it's AI revolution, it's the robotic revolution.

And there's going to be fewer and fewer jobs for people to do.

And so the argument is universal basic income.

And we did a show on it years ago because I said, Look, you have to start thinking about these things now because truck drivers are going to lose their jobs and there's going to be huge unemployment.

And, you know, high-tech will be deemed a bad guy.

Government will be deemed a bad guy because they won't have a way out.

So what are you going to do?

And when it hits, it's going to be horrible.

Well, I think that they are

moving us into

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as

this

as a result of this COVID nonsense.

And COVID is real.

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I'm not a science denier or anything else.

I just think this

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Have you read the stories, Stu, of these business people that can't hire anybody?

I mean, at all?

Yeah, there's a piece in the Dispatch today about that talking about,

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And here's what's happening at the same time.

Did you see the Taco Bell in New York City?

I've seen lots of Taco Bells in New York City, frankly.

I used to work there.

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no order takers.

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Okay.

The entire Taco Bell is automated.

So you have some people working, you know, there to keep the machines and keep things moving, but they've cut the staff by more than half.

Okay.

So now these companies are having a hard time filling those jobs.

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Yeah, and let me tell you this.

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Last night we did a very important show on critical race theory and how it has infiltrated your schools all across the country.

It is coming and it is...

It's really diabolical.

It is teaching your kids

that at birth, within three months, before they can even walk, babies, white babies, become racists.

It is something that will divide us,

get us fighting with one another, and destroy our souls of our children and our country.

It is...

It's the number one thing we should be doing because we lose our kids, we've lost everything.

Nothing else matters.

Today, we're going to do a couple of things.

I have Dr.

Edward Everett Piper coming on in a minute.

He's former president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University, really common sense guy.

He's written a book that just came out called Grow Up: Life Isn't Safe, but It's Good, to talk about some common sense.

And I've also asked him to come prepared with

some university names that you can check out that your kids are are not going to be indoctrinated at.

Where should our kids go?

Because I am not spending a dime on their education if it's going to be indoctrination.

But we start with where we left off yesterday on this program with Lori Meyer.

She's the co-founder of Educators for Quality and Equality.

She's a California educator and doing something.

Part of the problem with this is, is we don't know where to begin to fight.

We don't know exactly what we're looking for because this has all happened so quickly.

So I asked Lori to come back today and give us the names of some places and some organizations that you can join to join the battle because this is a nationwide battle against critical race theory and we begin there in one minute.

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Lori Myers, co-founders of Educators for Quality and Equality.

She was on with us yesterday, and let me just pick it up kind of where we touched on yesterday,

and then we're going to get to some resources.

If you missed yesterday, critical race theory is a theory whose whose really primary objective, as we talked about last night, comes from the Frankfurt School, which is a socialist Marxist school.

It is to divide us and to get us to

destroy each other and the Western way of life.

That is its designed purpose from the beginning.

Now, you can say it's all about equity and everything else, but that is what it will do, and it will destroy our families and our children.

I want to talk to Lori, who's joining us now.

There was a story in Newsweek about the pathway to equitable math instruction.

And the reason why I want to go into this is because it was funded by the Gates Foundation.

And,

you know, Bill Gates has done a lot of good, but he, I think, looks at our children as, you know, the workers that he'll need.

Your whole purpose in life is to just work for the corporations.

I believe that's the way he feels about things.

And he's taking away our choices of our kids by some of the measurements that he wants to use, you know, watching how their eyes dilate, et cetera, et cetera.

When it comes to math, I can't find anything

in this program that he's helping fund that will help a corporation or help anyone because it's not really even about math.

Lori?

Glenn, thank you again for having me on today and especially to talk about resources for parents because the good news is that there is a lot that parents can do to make a difference in their schools and lots of resources out there.

But back to the math program,

it's interesting that you bring that up because it is certainly Bill Gates or anybody else's prerogative to have an opinion on whether there is white supremacy in math or whether certain math practices are white supremacists.

But our focus as educators is is the harm that this will do to students in the classroom.

And the problem with this ideology in a math curriculum is that it doesn't set up teachers for success in teaching math to their students.

It literally pits students against each other if a certain math practice is called white supremacist.

How is this being taught?

What are they suggesting you do as a math teacher?

Well,

there are many concerning things about the pathway to equitable math.

One of the most concerning things is that there actually are good math teaching practices in this pathway document, but they're going to be lost under the characterization of white supremacy.

And what was interesting is I actually have a colleague who had a conversation about this with a very progressive school board member who actually agreed, so the the school board member agreed that there is white supremacy in math classrooms.

But even this progressive school board member agreed that this is a harmful way of teaching students and that

characterizing math practices as white supremacist is going to alienate most of the teachers out there.

So any good in the pathway document will be lost in the noise.

Okay.

Yesterday we talked a little bit about what to look for in your schools.

And, you you know, I

just wish there was, you know, documents out there.

And that's what I want to talk to you about.

There are documents out there.

There are websites.

There are resources that show you what to look for and how to fight it.

And

I was talking to one of,

I think, one of this century's great fighters at the beginning of this program.

And we were talking about how, you know, it's a scary thing, but, you know, our military, they're scared.

They go in and, you know, they don't know what they're facing.

They could be facing death.

But one of the things that they have in their back pocket that helps them is this camaraderie or this feeling of brotherhood.

We don't have that yet.

We feel like we're fighting alone on this.

And we need that feeling of brotherhood.

We need to know that we're not alone.

So where can people go to get information and get involved in their schools?

I'm really glad you asked.

And that is the key question.

We all know that there's a problem.

And the most important thing to talk about is what to do.

And the good news is that there are lots of resources for parents, educators, community members who want to take action.

Whether you're an experienced advocate or you don't even know what a school board does, there are things that you can do right now, even today, to get started and make a difference.

And I want to thank everybody who's listening right now because you've taken the first step.

And the first step is to get informed.

And by listening right now, you're starting to get informed and educated.

I mean, unless this is being used, you know, as a torture device and, you know, you're strapped to a table and you're like, you're going to listen to the Glenn Beck program, then you might not have a choice.

But

so let's go over

some of these organizations.

Let's start with fairforall.org.

What is this?

Absolutely.

So Fair for All is Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism.

It is a fabulous repository of resources, parent and teacher advocacy, field guides, and more.

A key resource on FAIR, and I'm going to highlight some of my favorites on all these organizations, are the community forums, because your point is absolutely right.

We don't want to feel like we're doing this alone.

These community forums on FAIR are a fantastic way to ask specific questions with people who are doing exactly the kind of advocacy that parents and community members are doing to get advice.

If you don't know where to start, this is a great place to ask to get into FAIR, to join FAIR, get into the forums, and these forms will help guide you to resources that are in your state and to connect with others around a specific issue.

So, FAIR is a fabulous place to start.

And that is FAIR4ALL.org.

The next one, I just had Azra on this morning.

She's one of the founders of defendinged.org.

I think she's remarkable and what she set up.

Can you tell me a little bit about that?

Right.

Parents Defending Education, Ozra's organization, is absolutely wonderful.

They also are a plethora of resources for parents, community members, teachers who want to make a difference fighting indoctrination in our classrooms.

A key resource on Parents Defending Education is what they call their quote indoctrination map.

And it's an interactive map for people who want to connect to what's going on in their local communities.

In fact, after yesterday's show, I got an email from a parent in Indiana who was trying to fight indoctrination in his children's school and needed to connect with others because, as you pointed out, having a group to work with is really powerful.

I was able to point him to the indoctrination map and through that he's going to be able to connect to specific resources in Indiana that will help him with his advocacy that is a really good map I'd like to see it much more populated

but it is again just beginning and you can find that indoctrination map

at defendinged.org

No left turn in education.

This one is really focused on sex ed, are they not?

So no left turn in education is focused on a broad set of indoctrination in our schools, including critical race theory and comprehensive sex ed.

One of no left turn in education's many, many strengths is that it has chapters in just about every state.

So you can get state-specific support.

And that's key because the education code, which is something that all of us advocates will get familiar with, they're different in every state, and it's a powerful tool when you go into advocate if you know what the education code is specifically for your school.

So no left turn in education is a great way of connecting with like-minded advocates in your state for resources and support.

And that is nolefturn.us.

You brought up something, I'm a big fan of PragerU.

I'm a good friend with Dennis Prager and a supporter of PragerU.

I did not know they had resources for educators and parents.

Tell me about that.

So that is one of the things I love about PragerU and their resources for educators and parents have the acronym PREP, Prager Resources for Educators and Parents.

And what I love about this site is that students are really the ones on the front lines of what's going on in our schools with critical race theory.

And it's important that they have the resources and that they're equipped with how to respond when this comes up in school.

And PragerU has videos,

resources, all kinds of information for parents and for children so that they can advocate for themselves in an age-appropriate, grade-appropriate way.

PragerU is really so great.

PragerU.com/slash prep, P-R-E-E-P.

Next, I think, is undoctrinate.org.

Right.

So Undoctrinate

is resources for resources.

One of my favorite pages on this site has a link, it's called Resources, has links to all kinds of national and local groups that will support you in your advocacy.

So it's a condensed version of the indoctrination map on parents defending education, but a great place to go if you want to connect either with national organizations or region-specific organizations for support in your advocacy.

Okay, let me take one minute break and then come back and tell me the last two and your favorites, the ones you think that are must visits for parents.

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So we're with Lori Myers, and we're talking about critical race theory.

And if you're a parent, you must, must join with other parents and fight this

from coming into your schools.

And it's going to be a tough fight, and you can't stand alone.

And if you're new to it, you really need to brush up and have some resources to help you.

Lori, tell me about the last two and then go over what you think are must-do.

So there are two more on the list.

One is Heterodox Academy.

It's a nonpartisan nonprofit that's dedicated to viewpoint diversity,

which is absolutely key when it comes to critical race theory, which tends to have a one-sided view of the world.

And it has resources for higher education, but also resources that are specific for K through 12 parents and educators.

So, I highly recommend going to

Heterodox Academy, especially if the way you're seeing critical race theory manifest in your children's classroom is that they are getting a narrow, one-sided perspective instead of a balanced view on education.

Isn't that really almost, isn't that almost all of them?

I mean,

everything in our society is now shut up, it's my way or the highway.

Agreed.

and what's interesting is that I've looked up codes of conduct not just for the NEA which is the largest teacher union in the country but codes of conduct for different states Florida Ohio California and more and just about all of them insist that teachers and I'm quoting shall not unreasonably deny students access to varying points of view so that's actually mandated by state education code So heterodox can provide lots of resources for combating that in the classroom.

Okay, heterodoxacademy.org is where you go.

That's right.

That's right.

And the last national resource, and then I just want to give a shout out to a few local ones.

The last national resource is whataretheylearning.com.

And this is a parent-powered K-12 community focused on transparency, which is key.

On many of the websites that I've talked about is the quote, sunshine is the best disinfectant.

And that's the theme of whataretheylearning.com.

It's exposing what's going on in classrooms so that other parents can see what's happening and from each other learn advocacy tools to help make a difference.

Okay, we have about 90 seconds.

Go ahead.

I will go super fast.

If you even get onto the internet and search for Parents Against Critical Theory or ethnic studies, you will find no shortage of parent groups, Facebook groups that are dedicated to helping you in your community.

Parents Against Critical Theory in Lawden County, Parents United Against Critical Theory in Arizona, Alliance for Constructive Ethnic Studies in California, Northwest Parents Against Critical Theory in the Pacific Northwest.

Nobody needs to go this alone.

If you don't have somebody in your community right now, connect with one of these organizations to give you the support and the network and the resources you need to make a difference.

And we have found that once one person starts to speak up,

other people are emboldened to speak up.

All you need to do is take the first step and it will make a difference.

Thank you so much, Lori.

And we're going to post this list at Glennbeck.com.

And I'd like to include those Facebook pages because I know the one in Loudoun County, these guys are fearless, fearless, and they are coming up against

just

a buzzsaw of

officials in the education world.

And they are getting really good legal support now.

Lori Myers, thank you very much, co-founder of Educators for Quality and Equality.

Back with more in just a minute.

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Is that right, Everett?

Yes, it is.

Thanks for having me on, Glenn.

It is correct.

Actually, you helped break that story.

God used you providentially to push that not at daycare story out into

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And

as a result of you doing so, it had 3.5 million hits within a couple of weeks.

So kudos to you.

Thank you.

Oh, no.

It was great.

You were the president.

I think when you wrote that, you were the president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University, which is still one of the good universities that you can go to.

And I want to talk to you about universities

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But you

have written more,

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Life isn't safe, but it's good.

We are obsessed with everybody has to be safe.

Nobody can be pissed off.

Nobody's the cover of your book.

Nobody's going to drop their ice cream cone on the ground.

Everything has to be safe.

There's nothing enriching that will help you grow if you're entirely safe.

Absolutely.

In Not a Daycare, the first book that you helped push forward, I was confronting the snowflake rebellion and this constant crying and whining within the academy for safe spaces, the complaints about microaggressions and target warnings and whatnot.

In this book, in this book, Grow Up, Life Isn't Safe, but It's Good, I'm actually offering some solutions to that problem.

And I'm suggesting that as C.S.

Lewis tells us in the Chronicles of Narnia, the great lion Aslan is not safe, but he's good.

The Christ figure.

is not safe, but he's good.

And let's just paraphrase that, Glenn.

The Great Lion of the Ivory Tower of the Academy isn't supposed to be safe.

It's supposed to to be good.

The Constitution isn't safe.

It's good.

Freedom isn't safe.

It's good.

Debate and disagreement and dissonance is not safe, but it's good.

You know, we're told in the Proverbs as iron sharpens iron.

Let one man sharpen another.

Friction and sparks flying is a good thing.

That's what adults do.

We engage in debate and disagreement because we want to find what's true and right and just and real.

Children hunker down and say, I don't like what you said.

You hurt my feelings.

I'm going to to take my ball and go home.

And isn't that a perfect description of our culture today?

Not just the college, but of Congress and our courts and even our corporations.

Look at the blackmail that's taking place right now because the corporate leaders don't like what's being done in Georgia.

They're going to take their ball and go home.

They're going to act like children.

My book, Grow Up, Life Isn't Safe, But It's Good, confronts this, but yet offers 20 chapters lessons on how to function like an adult in a world that looks like a daycare more on a daily basis.

So how do we function?

Because honestly,

I'm running out of answers.

The only answer that I know that is true is God.

If we don't turn back to God and the fundamental principles of the Judeo-Christian understanding of how life works,

and we've rarely lived up to those things,

but if we're not pursuing that, we're toast.

We're done.

We're done.

And that's the only real solution I can come up with.

I'm out.

I'm out.

Help me.

Well, please.

The reason you're out of other solutions is it is the solution.

The reason that the United States of America has been exceptional is because we were grounded in exceptional ideas.

And those exceptional ideas were the truths.

that were given to us by our creator, those self-evident truths that are endowed to us, not the opinions and feelings that we came up with five minutes ago, but those time-tested truths that are endowed by God.

So maybe the solution is to start recognizing that the problem started in the classroom and at the pulpit, and frankly even in helicopter parenting, and go back and correct the problem in the classroom, at the pulpit, and through parenting.

So if garbage in, garbage out has caused a problem, maybe we ought to go back and recognize the goodness in and goodness out that's grounded in the Creator rather than in our own narcissism will actually bear some positive fruit.

Maybe teach natural law rather than narcissism.

Let's just start there.

Maybe let's teach some common sense rather than this nonsense.

Let's just start there.

Go back to the time-tested truths and recognize that those are the things, the only things that have ever given us any measure of human liberty and dignity.

You know, I really, I like the fact that you said education in the pulpits because it's the teachers and preachers that have brought us here.

The The preachers stopped talking about universal truths and how they actually apply to big things.

And they instead bought a smoke machine.

And then we have the teachers who many of them didn't even know what they were doing.

It was just the way things were going.

But a lot of people, especially in the universities, they knew exactly what they were doing.

And by them teaching wrong principles and the pulpits just sitting on

their hands, either out of fear of losing funding or whatever it was, those two things have really done the vast majority of damage.

I agree.

I agree 100%.

And I have the right to

disagree.

Well, excuse me.

I have the right to agree with you, and I have the right to disagree with my own and to call them out.

I'm an evangelical, so I'm going to call out the evangelicals if they're wrong.

It's my obligation, my responsibility to do so.

And my entire career was the Ivory Tower, so I'm going to criticize it if it needs to be.

And if your goal as a preacher or a teacher is not the objective truths with the capital T

that have been revealed to us over the course of time through scripture and through natural law and through the empirical evidence before our very eyes, if your goal is not to pursue that and teach that and preach that, then go get another job.

Because all you're doing is affirming someone's someone's feelings and their brokenness.

That's the antithesis of biblical love.

Tolerance is inferior.

Love is superior.

There's a lot of things that you could be doing.

There's a lot of books that you could be reading.

I highly recommend you read Everett Piper's books.

The latest is Grow Up by Dr.

Everett Piper.

I also wanted to ask you,

it's insanity that

we're all saying, we got to get these schools back open again.

No, are you seeing what they're teaching?

No, that's, we should be saying, let's get our schools right before they open again.

Um, and sending our kids to colleges, you know,

they need an education, but not an indoctrination.

Are there any schools that you trust?

I don't know.

I'm not sure about Liberty University anymore.

I am sure that I wouldn't send my kids to BYU, and I'm a Mormon.

I would never send them to BYU now.

Where can you send your kids where they're not going to be indoctrinated?

I need to make sure everybody understands.

I'm not getting paid to say this.

I have no connection with these institutions.

But in my experience, I've narrowed it down to three.

New St.

Andrews is a small classical college in Moscow, Idaho.

They're confined to the CRT.

Go ahead.

No, no, no.

I talked to the head of this, I don't know, about a year ago.

I was wildly impressed.

So they're confronting CRT.

How?

Well,

just go Google their commercials.

That answers the question.

They take it on.

They confront it.

They confront it in their advertising.

They call it the nonsense that it is.

So New St.

Andrews is spot on.

College of the Ozarks, south of Branson, Missouri, is spot on.

Is this College of the Ozarks?

Is that the one where you have to work for the college or you can work to pay for it?

How does this college work?

I love this premise.

You have to.

You're required to work as a student, and

the nickname for the university is Hard Work You.

Very patriotic, very much...

very much

teaching the exceptionalism of the Constitution and the American way of life.

Very much grounded in a Judeo-Christian ethic.

So three schools, New St.

Andrews, College of the Ozarks, and Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan.

Hillsdale is kind of the Harvard of

trustworthy schools, isn't it?

I mean, is it hard to get into Hillsdale?

Well, I don't know what, I don't know how to answer that.

My guess is probably yes, because they're a small school and their endowment is so huge right now because they've towed the line.

Hillsdale had the courage back in the 60s to say, We're going to be conservative, we're going to conserve the time-tested truth as the basis for education here, and we're not going to be bribed by the federal dollar.

So they said, No, you can't use a Pell Grant to go here.

We'll go raise enough money to pay for the replacement of those dollars.

And today, some 50 years later or thereabouts, Hillsdale stands strong as the only truly independent institution left in the country.

Wow.

Hillsdale College, that's in Michigan.

College of the Ozarks in Branson, Missouri,

and New St.

Andrews in Moscow, Idaho.

It is a sad state of affairs when you can name three that you say I'm willing to put my name on.

Well, the reason I name those is because I've watched what they're doing in the midst of this cultural nonsense, this collapse, this perpetual childishness and narcissism that's being driven by identity politics and the most recent rendition of that CRT and all things critical theory.

And it's all the same ball of wax.

It's all just selfishness, self-absorption, narcissism.

It's all me and mine, and I deserve my pound of flesh.

And if you don't give it to me, I'm going to cancel you.

You can't speak here.

You're verboten.

You're expelled.

It's all the same thing.

And that is acting like a child.

It's time to do what the Apostle Paul told the church of Ephesus, and that is speak the truth objectively, empirically, in love, and love's better than tolerance and affirmation, and grow up.

Dr.

Everett Piper, the author of Grow Up.

Thank you so much for being with us.

We'll talk again.

Thanks, Everett.

Thanks, Glenn.

Bye-bye.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

I don't know what it is, but almost every time it seems that we have something going live on YouTube, there's a glitch of some sort that just mysteriously happens.

And it might be just the worst luck ever, but it happened again last night.

We have reposted the show from last night up on YouTube.

All you have to do is go to The Blaze

at YouTube.

Go YouTube slash the

Blaze and look for last night's special, the Wednesday night special and watch it there or thank you if you're a subscriber you didn't have a problem last night on blaze tv yeah i was the same thing happened to my show studios america last night um and uh i was disappointed because i was i was on my uh instagram page and uh there was a first of all a comment about i i noted that you were on the show and then there was a gushing comment uh from one of the uh one of my followers saying how they thought you were um you were very smart artistic and uh yes morbidly obese but on him it's so sexy.

Yeah.

Somehow it came from your account.

I don't know exactly how that.

Oh, gosh.

Did that happen last night?

I thought we had that.

This hot, hot, hot woman has just

has hijacked my Instagram account once in a while, and she'll just go on and she'll just gush about how hot and sexy I am, even though I'm morbidly obese.

It's a real problem.

It's a real problem.

I was also shocked that you disclosed what was going on with you and KFC and potentially playing the next colonel.

I mean, it's right out there on the Instagram page for everyone to see.

I'm very concerned.

I don't think you were supposed to disclose that.

No.

Well, I'm in negotiations with Popeyes.

I'm a little upset at KFC's rejection.

And, you know, Popeyes has the best biscuits, the best chicken sandwich out there.

And

I'm just saying,

I'm thinking about walking from KFC.

Are they aware you're in negotiations with them?

Well, let's not talk about all the details.

This is the Glennbach program.