No Transparency at Biden’s Border | Guest: Aaron Kindsvatter | 3/22/21

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Speaker 2 Nick Daly and I are we're working on a few of these songs.

Speaker 2 I think it's important that we do some things and teach some principles, et cetera, et cetera, in different ways and be more culturally relevant.

Speaker 2 It's why I'm painting the series that I'm painting right now of heroes

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Speaker 2 my hope is that they will

Speaker 2 be able to teach some things while also

Speaker 2 infiltrating even in a little bit of our culture. This one

Speaker 2 was done by Nick. I was inspired by this guy in France.

Speaker 2 His name is Wax Taylor.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 listening to his music, it's just genius stuff.

Speaker 2 And he takes cultural sounds and messages and mixes them into songs.

Speaker 2 This one

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Speaker 2 about empowerment.

Speaker 4 There are so many complaining political speeches. People are tired of hearing nothing but doom and despair on the radio.

Speaker 2 Now, look. I'm going to talk about us, the average guys.
The John Does. He's the man the ads are written for.
That's right.

Speaker 2 And it's because the slimy politics that we have all this unemployment here. Signed a disgusted American citizen.

Speaker 2 Well, well.

Speaker 2 Look at that face. It's wonderful.
They'll believe him.

Speaker 4 Let's see what you look like when you protest.

Speaker 2 Against what? Against anything. Just protest.

Speaker 2 What are you after, I mean? Money.

Speaker 2 Money.

Speaker 2 What do you want a journalistic career? Money.

Speaker 2 Money.

Speaker 4 Unless he says something that's sensational, it's just no good.

Speaker 2 Just protest.

Speaker 2 Amateur journalism, don't.

Speaker 2 What do you want a journalistic career? Money. Money.
Money. Money.
Well, I'm glad to hear somebody admit it. Money.
Money. Money.
Money. Money.
Money. Money.
Why don't we tear the building down?

Speaker 2 To most of you, your neighbor is a stranger. A guy with a barking dog and a high fence around him.
Now, you can't be a stranger to any guy that's on your own team.

Speaker 2 So tear down the fence that separates you.

Speaker 2 Tear down the fence.

Speaker 2 And you tear down a lot of hates and prejudices. That man's right, honey.

Speaker 4 I I don't think anybody will listen.

Speaker 2 What? May I remind you that I picked you up out of the guttle and I can throw you right back there again?

Speaker 2 I've had the whole Army and Navy out searching for you because he's in the oil business.

Speaker 2 Just protest. Money.

Speaker 2 Money.

Speaker 2 With the newspapers and the radio stations that these gentlemen control, we can kill the movement deader than a doornail. We'll do it too the moment you step out of line.

Speaker 2 I know a lot of you are saying, what can I do? I'm just a little punk. I don't count.
Well, you're dead wrong.

Speaker 2 The little punks have always counted because in the long run, the character of a country is the sum total of the character of its little punks. So? So?

Speaker 2 The trouble with the world is nobody gets a hoot about his neighbor. These gentlemen and I know what's missed for the John Does of America, regardless of what translate you think.
You're the fake.

Speaker 2 We believe in what we're doing. Well, that certainly is a new law.
I guess I've seen everything now.

Speaker 2 The free people can beat the world in anything, from war to tiddlywinks if we all pull in the same direction.

Speaker 2 You better start right now.

Speaker 2 Don't wait till the game is called out of count of darkness.

Speaker 2 Wait, wait. Bring up, John Doe.
You're the hope of the world.

Speaker 2 All right, John Doe, let's go south of the border, shall we?

Speaker 2 Yes, here we are in the great state of Texas, where

Speaker 2 we are just, we're meeting new friends, making new friends with new neighbors. Our hotel rooms being purchased by ICE.
It's wonderful. You know, I always thought Ice.

Speaker 2 I mean, when you get to a hotel, what does somebody say?

Speaker 2 Who's going to go get ICE? Right? Now they're out buying hotel rooms. They're renting them, and they're also building really nice places at $70,000 a bed.

Speaker 2 If you look at how much this is costing us now to build these new

Speaker 2 camps, $70,000 a bed for the kids that are coming across the border. Ariba, right?

Speaker 2 You bet.

Speaker 2 $70,000. Let's see.
Hang on just a second. $70,000 per illegal.

Speaker 2 Did you get that for the COVID thing? The check at all, $70,000?

Speaker 2 You lost your business. You lost your job.
Did you get $70,000?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 I didn't get that. Now I'm an evil conservative, and I make money, which I didn't earn, by the way.

Speaker 3 No, but $1,400 are on the way. That's $1,400,000.

Speaker 3 Not to you, but

Speaker 3 to people who deserve it, $1,400,

Speaker 3 which is almost $70,000. I mean, if you think about the difference there, they're both above zero.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Both under $100,000. Both under $100,000.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's basically the same. Basically the same thing.
You're right. Now, Nancy Pelosi wants you to know that it is completely under control.
She says the border situation is under control.

Speaker 2 In fact,

Speaker 2 Omar,

Speaker 2 Ilyan Omar, which Elon was, wasn't she part of the AOC

Speaker 2 entourage down at the border last time when she was talking about how horrible these things were.

Speaker 2 AOC, of course, was saying that this was like Nazi Germany.

Speaker 3 Literal concentration camps.

Speaker 2 Why do you say it like that? I don't know. That's how she says it.
Really? She says they're not literal concentration camps.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So here is Elon Omar. Listen.

Speaker 5 There are growing complaints about the Biden administration restricting media access to the border.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. I can't.
I can't.

Speaker 2 I mean, we have

Speaker 2 rare opportunity to use it. So.

Speaker 2 All right. Now we can hear Ilana Marr.

Speaker 5 There are growing complaints about the Biden administration restricting media access to the border. Are you among those who are concerned about that?

Speaker 6 It is very concerning, again, that, you know, we're we're not centering this conversation around what's actually taking place, where these people are coming from, what situations they're fleeing, what their conditions are right

Speaker 2 or

Speaker 6 this conversation around the hysteria that is happening with the Republicans right now is centered around

Speaker 6 gaining political points. It's not about the safety of Americans.

Speaker 6 It's not about adhering to international law and allowing people to seek asylum. It's not about coming to the table and working with us

Speaker 6 in regards to immigration policy.

Speaker 6 Because if any of those things were true, you would hear hysteria from them in regards to the northern border.

Speaker 6 You would hear hysteria from them around folks who become undocumented because they overstay their visas.

Speaker 6 And so it shows you really that this conversation is about maligning

Speaker 6 and

Speaker 6 you know, I think creating a torturous space that often becomes dangerous and violent.

Speaker 2 Well, a torturous space. I mean, some of these hotel rooms don't have color TV.

Speaker 2 I just, I want you to know.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 3 They have pools, though, right?

Speaker 2 Some of them do. Some of them.

Speaker 3 Hot tubs? Is there a hot tub situation? I wouldn't use it. Do we have spa jets? No,

Speaker 3 I wouldn't say I would use it.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't use it.

Speaker 2 You never know. You never know.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 the border situation is under control. Now, you know,

Speaker 2 there is also some crazy people.

Speaker 2 You know, like the Texas Department of Public Safety

Speaker 2 that is deployed down at the border. They pulled over an adult man and a 14-year-old girl in Star County discovered the man was a fugitive wanted by law enforcement for sexual assault.

Speaker 2 But they had just come over the border illegally. Now,

Speaker 2 you're going to think the girl, because she wasn't related to him,

Speaker 2 it was likely that they paired up to cross the border together and, you know, and he was going to abuse her. But that's just your whiteness talking there.
Okay. It is?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's just your whiteness.

Speaker 2 So she was 14, And, you know, he wasn't 14.

Speaker 2 And, you know,

Speaker 2 he has a record of assaulting girls sexually. That doesn't mean as he was.

Speaker 2 He has learned his lesson because he was kicked out of this country once. And now he just wants to come back.
And he's just trying to help, you know, this 14-year-old girl across the border.

Speaker 2 That's all that's happening. That's nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So don't believe all the stuff that you're reading about, that it's not under control, because it is. It is.

Speaker 2 By the way, looks like smugglers are embedding criminals in the families to cross the borders as well. You know, it's another crazy story, and please don't believe any of this.

Speaker 2 There's another crazy story out there that

Speaker 2 these children, you know, because it's $6,000. It could be up to $20,000.
That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money for a, you know, a struggling family in Mexico.

Speaker 2 You know, know six thousand dollars is a lot of money i mean that's probably you know two days in disney world um six thousand dollars is a lot of money for people here in america to cough up so where are all of these people that are dirt poor coming up with six thousand dollars

Speaker 2 i mean

Speaker 2 Is it that bad that they're fleeing and

Speaker 2 they have $6,000 in cash just to, I'm going to take it out of the bank. I don't want to do this, but I'm going to take it out of the bank.
Where are these people getting $6,000?

Speaker 2 Now, some would say, but again, it's like, you know, police. Can you trust the police anymore?

Speaker 2 They're actually saying that

Speaker 2 these drug cartels are holding the families hostage.

Speaker 2 making them promise, and they will pay up, kind of like the Italian mob did in the early 1900s, that, yeah, we'll help you get to America, but then you're going to owe us a favor.

Speaker 2 And this is expanding the drug cartel's influence here in America. But don't worry, as Alanamar said, we're not talking about the real issue, where these kids are coming from.

Speaker 2 You know, let's just all assume they have anywhere from two,

Speaker 2 four, six, up to $20,000

Speaker 2 that they can, the families can just cough up because they're looking for a better life here in America where they can, wow, they're looking for a better life where they can make it here because they can't make it there, but they've got $6,000 in U.S.

Speaker 2 cash. Wow.

Speaker 3 Seems like there's some inconsistencies to this narrative.

Speaker 2 Seems like there might be something there that.

Speaker 3 Is there any point to we can start noting the incredible incompetence of the Biden administration who came in and changed all these rules without any plan whatsoever as to what would happen when they changed these rules.

Speaker 2 Do they really think this isn't the plan?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't, I mean, I don't. They're agents of chaos.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, I think the plan might be, and I would agree with this, that they want to have

Speaker 3 a situation where these illegal immigrants are getting across the border and becoming citizens in the long term.

Speaker 3 I don't know that they necessarily want this hassle because even the media, as we talked about before we came on the air, there are scattered showers of journalism all over the place right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and can we check on...

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Speaker 2 another

Speaker 2 scattered showers of journalism. Yes, now that's coming up in just a second.
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Speaker 2 All right, let's take a look at the weather now with meteorologist Stu McGuerre. Hi, Stu.

Speaker 3 We saw a stunning development in the storm front on the Cuomo side of the map here recently, which has been very shocking to me personally. It took a long time to develop.

Speaker 2 But there is a lot of high pressure from the left

Speaker 2 on that one. Yes, a lot of high pressure.
A lot of high pressure.

Speaker 3 And you're seeing some of that as well here. However, I've noticed over the past week or so,

Speaker 3 incredible increases in the amount of journalism falling from the skies on the border area of this country, which is shocking to me.

Speaker 2 I'd have to see it to believe it.

Speaker 3 Let me give you an example of this. This is from ABC News.
Martha Radditz,

Speaker 3 they're like their lead foreign affairs correspondent. Here she is on their podcast this morning.

Speaker 2 After hearing Republicans complain about Joe Biden and how did this happen and some Democrats complain about how did this happen. So did you come here because Joe Biden was elected president?

Speaker 2 Basically.

Speaker 2 Basically. People who I spoke to said quite clearly they came because they thought Joe Biden was opening up the borders and welcoming them.

Speaker 2 Biden promised that we can trust with minors.

Speaker 2 Would you have tried to do this when Donald Trump was president?

Speaker 7 Definitely not.

Speaker 2 Specifically, they said they wouldn't have come if Donald Trump was still president. So the Biden administration really has a problem on its hands.
Yeah, I agree. So give me the,

Speaker 2 I got to have, you've got to give me the New York Times music here for just a second. Because I have to ask our meteorologist a few questions on this one.

Speaker 2 Do you think that these journalists are

Speaker 2 actually seen the light, or is there something else going on? Perhaps global warming.

Speaker 3 That's a great point. I hadn't thought about that.
Yes, it was global warming.

Speaker 2 It's definitely global warming. Thank you, Sarah.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 Michael Pavaro.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 3 That's a pretty incredible report. And this is, they're not alone at ABC.

Speaker 3 I mean, a lot of these places are telling the same story, which I think honestly is, it's just a sign of really high levels of incompetence.

Speaker 3 There's no reason, man, they have such a favorable treatment from the media. There's no reason to get stuck into a controversy if you're Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 You come in there and you do even a moderately okay job and they're going to say you are God.

Speaker 2 But I don't think Joe Biden, I mean, could we play the walking up the stairs thing? I mean, I don't think Joe Biden is in control. I really don't.
I don't think, I think Bill O'Reilly is right.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is really sad. This is okay.
There's one. There's two.
There's three. He's on the the ground.
He's

Speaker 2 pushing his life alert button there. And

Speaker 2 it's sad.

Speaker 2 I don't think that

Speaker 2 he knows even what's going on really in the border. And I don't think that he is on the day-to-day details.
I think

Speaker 2 the radicals are in charge of that.

Speaker 3 And that's the, you could argue that's what happened here, right? Like, they came in and changed all of these rules on day one. I mean, Biden signed all the stuff, but,

Speaker 3 you know, they,

Speaker 2 whatever.

Speaker 3 I mean, he campaigned on it, though. Forget it.
Forget it.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to give him a pass because he falls downstairs. And this is complete incompetence, and he deserves to pay the political price for it.

Speaker 2 Oh, I, oh, I agree with you 100%. Just remember, on the other side of that door, Carol Merrill's here to tell you all about it.
It's President Harris.

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Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. Oh my.
I have to apologize immediately.

Speaker 2 I'm really sorry. Could we please play the CNN interview with Linda Sanchez, Congressman Linda Sanchez, over the weekend.

Speaker 8 I don't necessarily think that it's appropriate for journalists to be inside centers that

Speaker 8 are not permanent places for children. That children are not placed there permanently.
They're processed out of those facilities as quickly as possible and as quickly as the facilities will allow.

Speaker 9 So some of them are being held there longer than they're legally supposed to be.

Speaker 2 They are doing this

Speaker 8 under COVID protocols.

Speaker 8 If it were not a pandemic, I would totally understand.

Speaker 2 I feel really bad because in the first half hour we talked about, you know, journalists and

Speaker 2 some journalists that are saying we should be allowed in to take pictures, you know, because that's happened with every president,

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 2 In fact, do we have the photo journalist

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 says that he has tried to get in with every single president?

Speaker 2 Every single president has allowed him to photograph U.S. customs and border protection operations, except for Joe Biden.
He is from Getty, the image special correspondent. His name is John Moore.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he's speaking out now because

Speaker 2 Joe Biden isn't letting anyone in. And I thought this was a transparent,

Speaker 2 maybe when he fell down, he bumped his head and he forgot about that. Oh, see, there's another joke.

Speaker 2 Do we have the audio of

Speaker 2 the guy on MSNBC saying, you know, don't joke about that thing? Because

Speaker 2 that's...

Speaker 2 I got to apologize again.

Speaker 2 My gosh. Guy on NBC this weekend, MSNBC said

Speaker 2 joking about the president falling down the stairs could lead to assassinations.

Speaker 2 So bizarre.

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 2 That's clearly a logical step. Is it?

Speaker 2 Clearly,

Speaker 2 you joke about the president falling,

Speaker 2 okay? And the next thing, boom, he's dead from an assassin's bullet.

Speaker 3 That's not usually the way it happens.

Speaker 2 I will say, too. Gerald Ford fell down the stairs Saturday Night Live.
Always making fun of him. That's true.
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Speaker 3 good night mic drop no I that's none none of that's rational in any way uh I it's when does that matter no it's true I mean look what they did with Trump I mean I know there's a Drew Holden had a great thread of all the things they said about Trump think piece after think piece after think piece about how we have to absolutely take it seriously that he could only he had that issue where he had to use his other hand to help himself take a drink of water and he looked like he was walking very gingerly down the ramp and that was that is important We must focus on it.

Speaker 3 No, it sounds like it's nothing, but we must change that. We must focus on it because it is serious.
You know, every single media organization said that back in the day.

Speaker 2 And now, you know, you're not even supposed to ask a question about it or have a little challenge.

Speaker 2 It was a sad fall. I mean, this is

Speaker 2 watching them. Yeah, you're watching somebody who is clearly.

Speaker 2 clearly should not be in this position.

Speaker 2 You're watching them just deteriorate in front of your eyes. And does the family not care?

Speaker 2 Does no one care? Is this the way this guy is going to go out? Really? You're going to have him remembered this way? It's just so obscene. So obscene.
But

Speaker 2 they don't care about the truth anymore. Have you seen the journalist from, I think it's the Atlantic?

Speaker 2 So here's the latest on the Asian

Speaker 2 attacks from apparently the right.

Speaker 2 The Asian attacks are going on. There was somebody else that was,

Speaker 2 there was somebody else that was attacked. It was horrible, horrible.
A 68-year-old man, Asian, punched in the face

Speaker 2 at the stop of the one train in New York.

Speaker 2 He's in critical condition. Now, we have

Speaker 2 the attacker on tape doing it. We know who it is.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, just a

Speaker 2 really bad guy.

Speaker 2 Black.

Speaker 2 Here's what the reporter from the Atlantic tweeted. Now, remember, we're crazy conspiracy theorists to say Joe Biden and his son are corrupt.
That's a crazy conspiracy.

Speaker 2 Tariq Nasheed

Speaker 2 just tweeted, many people believe that the NYPD

Speaker 2 is orchestrating these random attacks on Asians using black people who are paid assets

Speaker 2 I'm not sure how true this theory is but when suspects dress like blacks black spoitation characters using jive turkey 70s dialogue like this it does seem questionable

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 Alex Jones wouldn't even go there. Alex Jones wouldn't say.
What are you saying?

Speaker 2 He's saying this is a false flag. That's what got Alex Jones thrown out of society and the most dangerous man of all because he was saying false flag.

Speaker 2 This guy is not only claiming false flag, he's saying the cops are paying black people.

Speaker 2 And the only reason why you can tell this is because it's obvious a white man dressed him.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a fascinating theory, especially because going back a long time, Department of Justice records show that the most common attacker of an Asian person is an African-American, despite being one-fifth of the population of white people.

Speaker 3 That is the most, and not, and Asian people

Speaker 3 are tied with white people for how many people attack Asian people. So again, this idea that there is some sort of bizarre

Speaker 3 epidemic of violence against Asian Americans by white supremacists is not shown really anywhere in the data. I mean, it doesn't seem to be.

Speaker 2 Well, do you need it? You have the vice president now of the San Francisco School Board

Speaker 2 talking about what's really going on with Asians. Now, of course, this woman is very conservative, being the vice president of the school board in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 she has said,

Speaker 2 many Asian students and teachers I know won't engage in critical race conversations unless they see how they are impacted by white supremacy.

Speaker 2 She says, I grew up in a mostly Asian American school and I know this experience all too well. Many Asian Americans believe they benefit from the model minority BS.

Speaker 2 In fact, many Asian Americans, teachers, students, and parents, actively promote these myths. They use white supremacist thinking to assimilate and get ahead.

Speaker 2 Talk to many Lowell High School parents, and you'll hear praise of tiger moms and disparagement of black and brown culture. Where are the vocal Asians speaking out against Trump?

Speaker 2 Don't Asian Americans know that they're on his list as well? Do they think they won't be deported, beaten? Being a house N-word is still being an N-word. You're still considered the help.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 People,

Speaker 2 they are.

Speaker 3 These activists are just so

Speaker 2 crazy. No, she's a vice president of the school board in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 What makes you say she's an activist?

Speaker 3 She sounds like one. Really?

Speaker 2 She sounds like an activist. Oh, she's just trying to help all the students.

Speaker 3 This just obsession with skin color is remarkable. You only hear this, I only hear this from white nationalists, this level of obsession.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I guess you go to a white nationalist conference, you might see this sort of obsession with the color of skin.

Speaker 3 But this is what we're getting from so many who are in control of the lives of your children. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And, you know, a lot of people, we've heard a lot from people in California, and a lot of them have been saying, hey, open up those schools.

Speaker 3 Do you know what you're asking for here?

Speaker 3 Maybe this is the best year of your kid's life. Maybe your kid being taught by you or someone

Speaker 3 near you in a group sort of setting even just

Speaker 2 being taught by Netflix

Speaker 2 and Star Wars movies might be even better than this. By the way, the Recall San Francisco School Board campaign,

Speaker 2 the ones that found these tweets, she said, I am not going to even address tweets that were written five years ago. Oh, I know, guys.
Oh, that's yeah, that's five years ago is so

Speaker 2 long.

Speaker 2 Since when is that a no-go zone for the left?

Speaker 2 So they released this. They are these are liberals in San Francisco that are banning together and saying enough of this.

Speaker 2 By the way, she represents schools. The school that she's talking about and the school that she's overseeing, the schools, is a mainly Asian area.

Speaker 2 And she's calling them white supremacists or using white supremacist philosophies, which is

Speaker 2 do

Speaker 2 good in school. Do work hard.
Be a model student. Be a model citizen.
A what? Model for what?

Speaker 3 Whites.

Speaker 2 That's what kind of model. Exactly right.

Speaker 3 That is really the philosophy behind the anti-racism stuff, the white fragility stuff, is that these characteristics that we've all always looked at and said were positive.

Speaker 3 And it was my understanding, it was across all societies. Things like showing up on time, working hard.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait until I show you, wait until next hour. Oh, I've got something that is being taught now in businesses that you won't believe.
Well, I mean, you will, but it's all that. It's all that.

Speaker 2 Wait until it'll

Speaker 2 boggle your mind. Could I just leave this segment with some common sense from Bill Maher?

Speaker 2 Listen to what he is saying on segregation and who's to blame.

Speaker 10 We seem to be entering an era of resegregation that's coming from the left.

Speaker 10 I mean, on many college campuses, you can have, there are separate dorms, separate black dorms, graduation ceremonies, stuff like that.

Speaker 10 How will that affect elections in the future?

Speaker 9 You know, I think there's a lot of, there was a great study in North Carolina that showed that, you know, racially integrated schools make people more liberal.

Speaker 9 But, you know, I think just to go back, I think that the important thing is to just realize that most non-white voters are not liberal. They don't identify as liberal.

Speaker 9 We should take that really seriously. And I think that when it,

Speaker 9 like realizing that most voters don't share our values means that we should instead try to meet people where they are with the values that they actually hold and that we should talk to them about issues that they care about.

Speaker 2 That's one of the

Speaker 2 brainiacs from the Center for American Progress. One last clip from Bill Maher.

Speaker 2 I never thought I

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 10 I'm not making this up.

Speaker 10 People, this informant thing, it's not just what you do, it's what you don't report.

Speaker 10 That's another way the goalpost moved. I was reading about this guy, Winston Marshall, the banjo player in Mumford and Sons.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 10 I remember when they were a thing

Speaker 10 for about the time it took to take a

Speaker 10 this guy tweeted out that he liked a book. It's a book called Unmasked.
I never heard of it. You never heard of it.

Speaker 10 It's apparently not favorable to Antifa, so it's criticizing Antifa. Okay, people write books.

Speaker 10 He tweeted out, finally had the time to read your important book, You're a Brave Man, to the author.

Speaker 10 Now he has to step away. Everyone's always stepping away from the band.
Oh my God.

Speaker 10 And this is his apology. Again, so Soviet.
Over the past few days, I have come to better understand the pain caused by the book I endorse. What?

Speaker 10 Would you hit somebody over the head with it?

Speaker 10 I have offended not only a lot of people I don't know, but also those closest to me, including my bandmates. What a bunch of they must be.

Speaker 10 And for that, I am truly sorry.

Speaker 2 It's so Stalin-esque.

Speaker 10 It's so, you know what?

Speaker 10 How about I can read what I want? I'm a musician. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2 Jeez.

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Speaker 2 I am going to share with you a very, very,

Speaker 2 very controversial bill. And you won't understand why it's controversial.
Up in the state of New Hampshire,

Speaker 2 we're going to tell you about a state bill and an act that is going through the Senate and the House of Representatives,

Speaker 2 and it is the Propagation of Divisive Concepts Prohibited Bill.

Speaker 2 They're trying to stop the teaching of divisive concepts.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 right now you're probably thinking, oh, geez, what are they defining divisive concepts as?

Speaker 2 George Washington crossed the Delaware?

Speaker 2 Well, wait until you hear. And we've got

Speaker 2 a couple of people who are deeply involved in this.

Speaker 2 And the news is it's not going to pass

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Speaker 2 There is a revolt against critical race theory. Oklahoma Republicans have a bill out that would ban critical race theory.
West Virginia is doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 Chinese American organization is denouncing critical race.

Speaker 2 What's happening? Iowa state legislature has introduced a bill to ban critical race theory programs. There is one bill that is being considered now.

Speaker 2 It's called the Propagation of Divisive Concepts Prohibited Bill.

Speaker 2 Wait until you hear this and they're saying, well, I'll let you know if is it going to pass or not. Two people that are

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Speaker 2 All right, I've got to go over this bill before we introduce you to a couple of people.

Speaker 2 The propagation of divisive concepts prohibited.

Speaker 2 The definitions.

Speaker 2 Contractor means any and all persons, individuals, corporations, businesses of any kind that are in any manner entered into a contract, perform a subcontract pursuant to a contract with the state of New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 Divisive concept means the concept that, A, one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex.

Speaker 2 Think how far we've gone. B, the state of New Hampshire, the United States, is fundamentally racist or sexist.

Speaker 2 C, an individual by virtue of his race or sex is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously.

Speaker 2 D, an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because his or her race race or sex. E.

Speaker 2 Members of one race or sex cannot and should not attempt to treat others without respect to race or sex.

Speaker 2 F. An individual's moral character is necessarily determined by his race or sex.
G.

Speaker 2 An individual by virtue of his race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex.

Speaker 2 H. Any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex.
Or

Speaker 2 I, meritocracy or traits such as hard work ethic are racist or sexist or were created by a particular race to oppose another race.

Speaker 2 I could have read this to you 10 years ago and said, we're going to have to start passing bills like this, and they're going to be hard to pass 10 years from now, and you wouldn't have believed me.

Speaker 2 It's hard to believe right now.

Speaker 2 I mean, what is part?

Speaker 2 Where is the controversial part of that?

Speaker 3 The one part that they push back on occasionally on these things is, and I believe this is a correct criticism, that you can't really have affirmative action without these

Speaker 3 sorts of, when you have these in place, you can't really have affirmative action. Now, as a person who opposes affirmative action, I'm totally fine with that.

Speaker 3 But like, California ran into some of this when they had laws that really made it seem like you're not supposed to treat people differently because of their skin color, which is obviously supposedly universal concept.

Speaker 3 But we want to do all these affirmative action programs, so we can't have this in place. But I believe it was D of what you just read that said no adverse.

Speaker 2 Can you read the wording of that one again?

Speaker 2 Yeah, D is an individual should be, if they're teaching that any individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his race or sex.

Speaker 3 So that's even keeping it open to positive treatment because of your sex or your race. It's okay essentially to have affirmative action.
It's not trying to take that issue on.

Speaker 2 So I'd like to know, well, first, Carlin Borisenko, an organizational psychologist and a friend of the program, Doctor, how are you?

Speaker 11 I'm doing well, Glenn.

Speaker 2 How are you?

Speaker 2 When I say doctor, you're supposed to say doctor. Oh,

Speaker 3 sorry, doctor.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So you're involved in this New Hampshire bill, HB 544. You're promoting it,

Speaker 2 you know, on your website at YouTube, and you've looked into it.

Speaker 2 How is this controversial?

Speaker 11 You know, I really don't know. I've been working with state lawmakers over the last month or so.

Speaker 11 There's been testimony in the House of Representatives over this bill, and it really is something that shouldn't be controversial.

Speaker 11 But of course, the Democrats in the state of New Hampshire are pushing back on it very strongly. The first message, they've gone through several different messages at this point.

Speaker 11 The first one is that they said this bill was racist. Now, given the definitions you just read, I don't know how anyone can reasonably argue that.

Speaker 11 The second one that they tried is this bill is transphobic, which makes no sense since trans people are not mentioned in the bill at all.

Speaker 7 At all.

Speaker 11 But the third one, and this is the one that seems to be sticking, is that they're saying that this bill infringes on free speech, which

Speaker 2 the irony there. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 11 I know.

Speaker 11 And the fact of the matter is that this is the talking point that has stuck with some Republicans in my state, including my Republican governor, Chris Sununu, who is now listening to this Democratic talking point rather than listening to the Republicans in the House that are trying to pass this bill and to the voters who elected him.

Speaker 2 That is

Speaker 2 unbelievable. So what

Speaker 2 are

Speaker 2 Democrats in lock step on this? Or are there some Democrats, you know, like Bill Maher was over the weekend saying

Speaker 2 this has got to stop?

Speaker 11 No, I mean, the Democrats are pretty much in lockstep. There might be one that might defect our way, but no, they're pretty much in alignment on this one.

Speaker 2 What are the people that you know that are on the left?

Speaker 2 Not the politicians, the people that you know.

Speaker 2 Are they against this?

Speaker 11 You know,

Speaker 11 I think that they've actually started to convince themselves that a concept like one race is not superior to another race is actually a racist concept.

Speaker 11 I really think that they have bought into this ideology. I don't understand it.
I mean, the reading of the bill, just the plain language that you just read,

Speaker 11 is very, very clear in what you can and cannot teach. And for me, this is what I was taught growing up: that you don't treat people differently because of their race or sex.

Speaker 11 It's just this is common sense.

Speaker 2 This is all common sense. This is all what we've been striving for.
Had we done this at the beginning of the

Speaker 2 country, you wouldn't have had slavery. You wouldn't have had all the problems that we have right now.

Speaker 2 How is this bill

Speaker 2 bad?

Speaker 2 If this bill can't get passed, you reverse everything the civil rights movement tried to teach all of us.

Speaker 11 That's exactly right, Glenn. And a lot of people in New Hampshire think that this bill isn't needed in New Hampshire.
But the fact of the matter is this training is is happening all over the place.

Speaker 11 It's happened at the University of New Hampshire.

Speaker 11 We just found out last week that the school districts in Manchester, New Hampshire, the largest school district, I believe, in the state, has done anti-whiteness training.

Speaker 11 It's happening in the Bedford schools. It's happening in the Concord schools.
It's happening at Southern New Hampshire University.

Speaker 11 It's happening all over the place, right in front of people, and they still are convinced that something like this isn't necessary.

Speaker 2 Well, you are somebody that goes into organizations.

Speaker 2 You're somebody who goes into corporations and tries to help make those corporations better.

Speaker 2 I bet your business isn't going well, seeing that you won't be involved with critical race theory and are standing against it. But you know that businesses are having to do these.

Speaker 2 They're doing them all over the country.

Speaker 11 Well, that's exactly right. And they're being forced into a position of doing them by their HR team and by their employees.
And, you know, I'll tell you what, is my training business going well?

Speaker 11 Not exactly, because as you said, I refuse to pander to this ideology.

Speaker 11 But I'll tell you what is going well is my coaching business where I'm coaching executives through exactly how to deal with this in their organizations because executives don't want to do it and they feel like they're being forced into a position of needing to based on what their employees are asking of them how do you do it quickly because I've got to run but how do you how does an executive do it Well, I would look at an executive like Coinbase's CEO that says that this is not a part of our business.

Speaker 11 We're going to be focusing on our core business initiatives. And if you don't like it, here's a nice severance package and you can leave.

Speaker 11 And And when Coinbase's CEO did that, only 5% of their employees took that severance package.

Speaker 11 And so that is a fair price to get toxic employees out of your organization that are only going to drag your organization down. That is the best strategy I've seen so far.

Speaker 2 Really good. Thank you very much.
Carlin Borisenko,

Speaker 2 we'll talk to you again in a second. I want to talk to somebody who's actually in the state house and is fighting for this bill and

Speaker 2 what it's up against. We'll do that in one minute.
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Speaker 2 Keith Ammon is with us. He is a Republican, the New Hampshire state representative,

Speaker 2 and he's talking about HB 544.

Speaker 2 He is one of the sponsors on that. Keith, when you were putting this together, did you think you'd have a hard time getting this through?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 7 we knew this would be controversial.

Speaker 7 Part of your job as a legislature, as a member of the legislature, is to be a lightning rod for discussions like this, in my opinion. So, you know, we knew it would be controversial,

Speaker 7 and it's gotten more timely. We filed the bill back in November.

Speaker 7 I think we were the first state to do it. And our process is just now working its way through to handle this bill.
And it's gotten more topical as time has gone on.

Speaker 2 So tell me about the argument on free speech.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a very interesting one.

Speaker 7 That's been,

Speaker 7 I think Carlin, we heard, went over the different objections. And

Speaker 7 one by one, those kind of disappeared. And it focused on this free speech argument.
What's really interesting about our legislature is we have 400 members and they're from all walks of life.

Speaker 7 And it just so happens that one of our former chief justices of our Supreme Court, our state Supreme Court,

Speaker 7 is now a freshman representative.

Speaker 2 Well, is this Robert Lin?

Speaker 7 That's right.

Speaker 7 Robert Lynn.

Speaker 7 And so he weighed in on his opinion on the free speech issue and decisively with

Speaker 7 citing cases and citing different references. And the gist of his

Speaker 7 argument against that it violates free speech is that the free speech speech right is an individual right. It doesn't apply to government.
Government doesn't have a free speech right.

Speaker 7 People that work for the government when they're when they're operating under the authority of the government

Speaker 7 don't have that right in the course of their employment. But as individuals, we all have that right.
So I thought that was a very interesting take on

Speaker 7 whether it violates free speech.

Speaker 2 All right. So if the individual, and we see this, you know, practice, in fact, that's what they're hunting in the Pentagon now, is anybody who is online saying anything that they shouldn't have said.

Speaker 2 And if you're a military member, you're not supposed to be involved in any kind of discussion on policies, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 And so we've seen that before, and the left seems to accept that.

Speaker 2 They won't accept it when it comes to school teachers and university professors and everything else. But would it protect them if they were

Speaker 2 saying if the curriculum was not there, but they were teaching it anyway? Or is it tied to their job?

Speaker 7 Yeah, so it's tied to your job. Like if the bill really addresses anything taxpayer-funded.

Speaker 7 So if taxpayer money is funding some kind of training that deals with diversity, it doesn't ban diversity training. What it does is it puts guidelines on what types of trainings are acceptable.

Speaker 7 And obviously, ones that violate that list that you read, you know, wouldn't be acceptable if this bill is passed.

Speaker 7 The interesting thing about the genesis of this bill is it came from a university professor in one of our state institutes,

Speaker 7 and that person wanted to remain anonymous, but they're seeing it in their place of employment

Speaker 7 creeping in, and it's very difficult to push back against it.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 that's one of the things that

Speaker 2 I noticed in reading about the bill is that there are a lot of people that are asking to be kept out of this, but they are standing up at least quietly, but they're all terrified of the blowback.

Speaker 2 That should not happen in America.

Speaker 7 It should not. It should not.
And so, you know, if anyone's listening in other states, contact your state legislators because that's where this battle needs to go next is to our state houses.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 you have a Republican

Speaker 2 in Chris Sununu. I mean, it's the Sununu family, so I use Republican in, you know, the lightest of terms.

Speaker 2 What is

Speaker 2 how is he rejecting this? Is he going to sign it or will he reject it?

Speaker 7 So thou shalt not violate the 11th commandment.

Speaker 7 You know, we're both Republicans. We're in different branches of the government, and it's okay to have policy differences and discuss those, right? So that's what I'll do here.

Speaker 7 I think what happened was he got blindsided in a

Speaker 7 press conference about COVID, I think it was. You know, they asked him a question about this bill.
And it may have been at that time that he had only heard of it on NHPR when they were

Speaker 7 kind of slamming it about the free speech issue.

Speaker 7 And so that kind of locked in his position. So I think we'll be able to work.
You know, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 I'll put that teaser out there, but I think we'll be able to get something accomplished this term regarding that language in 544.

Speaker 2 Well, I wish you luck, and I hope that others do take

Speaker 2 this bill. It's again, HB 544 from the state of New Hampshire.
Look it up, read it yourself. I mean, I kind of,

Speaker 2 in some ways, I think of the old days when they would take these bills and make them into broadsides and

Speaker 2 nail them to trees and people would gather around and read them.

Speaker 2 Trying to get people to read this has got to be almost impossible, but you need to read it because you can ask your friends, what part of this do you disagree with? And bring it to your state.

Speaker 2 Bring it to your state representative or your state senator and say, we need this in our state because this is a poison that is being spread.

Speaker 2 It's called critical race theory, and it is everywhere. Everywhere.
Thank you so much,

Speaker 2 Keith. Appreciate it.
Thank you. You bet.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go over what Cigna

Speaker 2 is.

Speaker 2 This is the nation's largest health insurance provider.

Speaker 2 They're having a critical race theory training, and some employees took some pictures of.

Speaker 2 some of the training.

Speaker 3 They'll say, like, don't text things. You don't want to become public.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 These, these companies are going to start learning this eventually, but they'll still get filmed doing it.

Speaker 2 It's really. But what people have to understand is the companies are not doing this because they actually believe in it.
This is all part of the great reset.

Speaker 2 They're doing it because they're going to start getting

Speaker 2 ESG ratings. And if you invest at all in the stock market, you're 401k or anything, especially Charles Charles Schwab.
I think Bank of America has just started this as well.

Speaker 2 All the banks have it, and all the investment firms have it. But what it is, is to help you invest.
Because we know you want to be socially minded. And so they're getting an ESG score, environment,

Speaker 2 social justice, and governance score. So do they work with their government? Do they work with their local government? Can they justify their business license, really?

Speaker 2 How are they doing on the environment? What are they doing? And are they teaching critical race theory? When that score goes down,

Speaker 2 Merrill Lynch and other groups then

Speaker 2 tell their investors,

Speaker 2 you might not want to get in with this group because they have a very low ESG score. This is why this is happening.
They have to do it if they want to play ball, they think.

Speaker 2 but they're wrong. Dead wrong.
I'm going to tell you about the societal norms checklist and the things that

Speaker 2 can really hurt people because words matter. This is according to Cigna, the nation's largest health insurance provider.
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Speaker 2 So, Cigna,

Speaker 2 which is a Fortune 500 company, has 73,000 employees, the 13th largest in the country as a corporation, as measured by revenue,

Speaker 2 has started the critical race lessons. So

Speaker 2 it's really good. It's really good.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 some of these things are

Speaker 2 kind of being protested quietly, of course, by probably white men.

Speaker 2 Chat logs between an employee and a hiring manager viewed by the Washington Examiner detail an incident where a minority candidate with strong credentials performed exceptionally well in an interview.

Speaker 2 When that employee suggested to the hiring manager that the company wave the candidate through to the next step in the process, the hiring manager dismissed the candidate because they said he was white.

Speaker 2 That's when the other manager that did the interview said, no, I interviewed him. He's black.

Speaker 2 Oh, then tell him we're excited to hire him.

Speaker 2 And they didn't need any more information.

Speaker 2 Given the hiring practices they have in place where white male candidates are blocked regardless of qualifications, I have to say, yes, there's obvious discrimination at this company.

Speaker 2 One employee spoke to the Washington Examiner. So

Speaker 2 they're having their critical race theory lessons. And of course, we got screenshots

Speaker 2 of some of the things they're teaching.

Speaker 2 And Stu, I want you to stop, think,

Speaker 2 because your words matter.

Speaker 3 Okay, I'm going to stop and think.

Speaker 2 Okay, so

Speaker 2 when something is,

Speaker 2 you know, a law that has been, we don't do it really anymore. We can't make new exceptions, but it's kind of covered because it's been there for a long period of time.

Speaker 2 It's a law that is,

Speaker 2 you're protected really because it's a grandfather? Grandfather. Right.
Oh, my gosh. Why would you say that?

Speaker 3 No, I didn't stop and think.

Speaker 2 You didn't stop and think.

Speaker 2 That's a continuation of a legacy. You can say that, but don't say the G-word.

Speaker 3 Okay, so grandfathered is bad.

Speaker 3 Sorry for saying it again.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 When you are going to bring lunch, sure. And it's in a

Speaker 2 sack.

Speaker 2 And it's something that you would carry.

Speaker 3 Big lunch.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the color of the

Speaker 2 brown bag?

Speaker 3 A brown bag in it?

Speaker 2 Stop and think.

Speaker 2 Your words matter. You can't say, In Signa,

Speaker 2 you can't say brown bag lunch anymore. You can say it's grab and go.
You can say lunch and learn, which lunch and learn.

Speaker 3 I say lunch and learn all the time.

Speaker 2 That's a big line.

Speaker 2 I'm like, you know what? I'm lunching and learning today.

Speaker 2 Lunch and learn.

Speaker 3 I've never owned a stupid.

Speaker 2 Wait, so

Speaker 3 you can't describe the bag color?

Speaker 2 No, it doesn't give a reason. It just says that those are terms and phrases that matter.
Got it, okay. That you shouldn't use anymore.

Speaker 3 By the way, I apologize. I apologize to every family that I've hurt by saying brown bag.

Speaker 2 When I say,

Speaker 2 hey, friends, hey, y'all.

Speaker 2 Hey, all people. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Any other thoughts on another thing that you could say? Hey, you guys. Oh, my gosh.
Stop. Think words matter.

Speaker 2 You wouldn't say that because it has a G word in it. They may not all be Gs,

Speaker 2 which is different than the other G words you're also not supposed to say. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 3 No, I think that one you can say now. You can say gay.
That's okay to say gay now.

Speaker 3 You just can't say

Speaker 2 guys.

Speaker 3 Can't say guys. Gay guys.
No. Okay.

Speaker 2 I got it. Okay.
Right.

Speaker 2 I would say that you're so articulate here, but that's another thing I can't say. You can't say articulate.
You can't say you're articulate. I can say good job.
I can't say that. Good job.
Good job.

Speaker 2 Who's your good job?

Speaker 2 Good job.

Speaker 3 But you can't say articulate.

Speaker 2 No, you're so articulate.

Speaker 3 We should alert our president of this because he famously called Barack Obama a clean, articulate African American, which was like a storybook.

Speaker 3 Imagine the fantastical

Speaker 3 tale that would need to be woven to have a black person be articulate and clean. That was what our president said.
Yeah, well. And now he's in the Oval Office.

Speaker 2 Yeah, And we don't talk about that. Oh, I'm sorry.
That's another thing you don't talk about. Got it.

Speaker 2 Now, if we're having a party and you say, who can come?

Speaker 2 You'll say, can I bring my

Speaker 3 significant other?

Speaker 2 Good for you. You stopped and you thought.
I thought. Okay, good.
You could say spouse, partner, but you wouldn't say, and I'm only doing this for demonstration purposes only. Be careful.

Speaker 2 Wives, husbands, boyfriends, or girlfriends. Okay.
They, know. No, I don't know who you're talking about, Bill.

Speaker 3 But even if it is your boyfriend, because you know, it's not like you're guessing, hey, are you going to bring your boyfriend? Because you might be guessing at what they may or may not have. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But if it's you, you do know if you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend. Yeah.
And therefore would be able to say with accuracy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is my girlfriend.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, no. No.
You can't say that because what the other person might be offended you have a girlfriend? If it's a girlfriend, it doesn't mean that she's significant. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Or a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 It's not just an escort.

Speaker 2 It's somebody I'm seeing

Speaker 2 right now.

Speaker 3 I found her on Craigslist 20 minutes ago. So I wouldn't say she's a significant person.

Speaker 2 She's another. She's another.
She's another. She's another.

Speaker 3 Until the next other. Next week.

Speaker 2 When you say you're flying without instruments or you're going into something

Speaker 2 that you just don't know what you're doing, you're flying. You're flying blind.
Oh, my gosh. Don't say that.

Speaker 2 No, stop and think. Your words matter.

Speaker 3 I didn't stop or think on that one.

Speaker 2 Okay, you don't say that. You say, I'm going in unaware.

Speaker 2 Going in unaware. Unaware.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I don't know what to expect.

Speaker 3 What happened to

Speaker 3 the liberal approach of wanting our language to be colorful and descriptive? And we don't want these businesses cracking down and making every speech seem like it's a boardroom.

Speaker 2 What happened to that?

Speaker 3 Now it's now they're the ones enforcing this craziness.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 that is the next word. No, yes, it is.
Craziness? Yeah.

Speaker 2 If you say, I had a crazy, crazy day.

Speaker 3 Crazy day.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, you wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 I had a crazy day.

Speaker 2 You can't say that.

Speaker 2 Why? You had a busy day.

Speaker 2 You had a stressful day. You had a long day, but you did not have a crazy day.

Speaker 3 So you can't say. So stressful is

Speaker 3 a pressure that would come psychological pressure or emotional pressure.

Speaker 2 Crazy is a different thing. Now, I don't know

Speaker 2 if you work

Speaker 2 in some sort of a mental institution, if you can say, I've had a crazy day. Right.

Speaker 3 Crazy is just eliminated from the language because you can't say it as a descriptive term as a person who's in a normal workplace. Maybe people.
You also can't use it as a medical descriptive term.

Speaker 2 Correct. And maybe you could use it if you are the person in the mental mental institution, but I don't know.
It might offend others.

Speaker 2 If you're like completely nuts and you're like, he's had a crazy day, I don't think it's appropriate.

Speaker 3 I just feel like the Patsy Klein song

Speaker 3 is no longer going to be popular.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 2 You can't. I'm.

Speaker 2 For loving you. Okay.
Here we go.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 what I like is, you know, grandfathered,

Speaker 2 inclusive term or phrase, you change that to a continuation of or legacy.

Speaker 2 Brown bag lunch, lunch and go, grab and go, lunch and learn.

Speaker 2 Hey, guys, hey, team, friends, you all, all people.

Speaker 2 You're so articulate. Good job.
Then we get down to China virus. China virus.

Speaker 2 Can't do that.

Speaker 2 With two asterisks

Speaker 2 and capital letters, no alternatives. Discontinue all use.
So

Speaker 3 you can't even talk about the coronavirus COVID-19.

Speaker 2 Well, you can say, you can't call it a Jedi virus.

Speaker 3 Right, but there's no alternate. The alternative to China virus would be COVID-19.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's something maybe you should discuss.

Speaker 2 COVID-19. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Here's one I think we all will understand why they.

Speaker 2 If I said, hey.

Speaker 2 Knock it off, you people up in the

Speaker 2 cheap seats.

Speaker 2 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 You know, like the two old men and the Muppets.

Speaker 2 The balcony? Yeah,

Speaker 2 the balcony. Yeah, but it's, you know,

Speaker 2 the peanut gallery.

Speaker 3 Oh, the peanut gallery.

Speaker 2 You can't use that anymore.

Speaker 3 I don't know. Oh, people are allergic to peanuts.
A lot of people are.

Speaker 2 That could be that. That could be that.
It really could be that.

Speaker 2 That is so funny. It's great.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 The only one that I see here is Off the Reservation. Okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, I can see that one.

Speaker 2 Again, who you, no one uses it for whatever, I mean, what's the history of it?

Speaker 3 You're the big Native American historian around here.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Going off the reservation means you're, you're,

Speaker 2 he's crazy. He's gone off the reservation.
You go to the reservation. You stay on the reservation.
Right.

Speaker 2 You're going off the reservation.

Speaker 2 The key word here is not going or off. It's reservation.
Right.

Speaker 3 So you're not allowed to say reservation anymore?

Speaker 2 Well, you can't.

Speaker 3 What am I getting at a restaurant?

Speaker 3 What is the business model of open table after this announcement?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Well, you're too young to remember, but.
Oh, nope. That's another thing I can't.
You can't say young. I can't say.
Or remember. Or

Speaker 2 remember. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What is weird is you can't say blacklist either.

Speaker 2 Which I guess works in their advantage, seeing that this is what they're doing

Speaker 2 is creating a blacklist.

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Speaker 2 Hey, you've been following the Christy Gnome story over the weekend? Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 She's got a bill about women's sports, girls' sports, I guess, mainly in South Dakota. And it was a bill that

Speaker 3 would align with conservative values on the bill, technically, or generally, I mean, where it was, basically, we don't want male transgendered students who are

Speaker 3 crossing the lines and then competing against females because it's not fair and not right and not why we design women's sports.

Speaker 2 So now I'm not sure what her stance is. We asked her to be on the program today.
Hopefully we'll have her on tomorrow.

Speaker 2 But I'm not sure what her stance is. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt here, but I've heard two things from her.
One is that it just would have opened up all kinds of litigation.

Speaker 2 And so, and I have a great story to back that side up.

Speaker 2 The other is that, well, then, you know, we're excelling in South Dakota and none of our athletes would be able to go to play, you know, sports with any, what is it, NAACP or NCAA.

Speaker 3 That's what it is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so basically the two main things seemingly in she's going to veto this bill. That's why it's controversial and conservatives are upset about that.

Speaker 3 Her general points are one, it has something to do with like performance-enhancing drugs as well, which if you were, you know, potentially transitioning, you might use.

Speaker 2 That was why they were included in the bill.

Speaker 3 It says basically you have to get

Speaker 3 a piece, you know, document that anybody who plays in women's sports did not take these drugs. And, you know, generally, on its face, you'd understand that.

Speaker 3 Her point is, number one, it creates a massive record-keeping regime for the schools.

Speaker 3 And number two, it sets it up so if a kid doesn't make the team and later on another kid who did make the team has a positive test for, say, steroid, or we find out that they took steroids at some point, then that kid who didn't make the team can sue the school district and school the sue the kid

Speaker 3 in the kid's family i guess uh for damages she wants to repair that part of the bill she doesn't like that the other one is basically the ncaa came up with all these crazy rules and if you don't agree with their rules you can't participate in the ncaa

Speaker 3 and her point is no one basically is going to go to college in south dakota if they're big-time athlete because they're not going to be able to compete against the normal competition. In other words,

Speaker 3 they would lose out on all the big recruits. They would go somewhere else.
Those are the two.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I don't know people that are beating down the door to go to South Dakota or North Dakota or, you know, I mean, North Dakota State, though, has had

Speaker 3 major, major athletes.

Speaker 2 Isn't this the place where we draw a line, though? I mean, yeah, that's going to happen in a lot of things.

Speaker 2 If your company says, I'm not going to do, I'm not doing these things, I'm not, you're going to start to have to pay a price. It is coming.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 what?

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 NCAA is more important than your principles? No.

Speaker 2 Now, on the other hand, this is why I really want to have her on. On the other hand, before you judge and say, well, wait a minute,

Speaker 2 she's torpedoing this,

Speaker 2 I want to show you a document. This is the real document.
If you happen to be watching the Blaze, you'll see it.

Speaker 2 But I'll explain it to you. This is

Speaker 2 a letter

Speaker 2 from or a note from Abraham Lincoln in his own handwriting, and it's to the Senate.

Speaker 2 And what was happening was the

Speaker 2 Senate was passing what's called the Second Confiscation Act, where the North could just take your slaves because you were in rebellion and then free them. And

Speaker 2 the problem is, is that it caused all kinds of legal problems. So this letter says to the Senate, don't adjourn.
I know you're going to adjourn tonight. Don't give me one more day.

Speaker 2 I have a better idea.

Speaker 2 And the better idea led to the Emancipation Proclamation. He was concerned about the standing, the legal standing to make sure that it was done right.
Hopefully that's what Christy Noam is doing here.

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Speaker 2 Well, it looks as though

Speaker 2 the universities and the students didn't really mean tenure.

Speaker 2 I mean, okay,

Speaker 2 tenure, what's it for?

Speaker 2 Well, it's to protect views that may be controversial.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 I, for one, I don't like tenure because tenure has been used to filter out opposing views and only have really radical views.

Speaker 2 Where's the try to get tenure if you're a conservative or don't believe the same thing as the far left does? You're not even getting hired, let alone tenure. All right,

Speaker 2 but tenure exists, so we don't have what happened, you know, with Galileo and the Catholic Church. You know, you got to be able to think freely and explore all options.

Speaker 2 That's what a university should be teaching. Not

Speaker 2 what to think, but how to think by asking questions and pushing people to their limits of understanding.

Speaker 2 get them to reach out themselves inside of themselves. Well, that's not what's happening at our university.
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Speaker 2 campuses, an increasingly uncompromising climate, is costing professors their job.

Speaker 2 And one professor is not being fired, but now the students are demanding that he resign over his

Speaker 2 expressing concern. over critical race theory and anti-white sentiment on campus.
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Speaker 2 Aaron Kinswater.

Speaker 2 He is a counseling professor at the University of Vermont, and the students want him to resign because he had concerns.

Speaker 2 His concerns were put together on a video and he released it. It's really,

Speaker 2 really well thought out,

Speaker 2 really articulate,

Speaker 2 and in my opinion, not controversial.

Speaker 2 He's expressing an opinion. If you don't like it, go pound sand.
You know, make a video yourself.

Speaker 2 But they want to silence him.

Speaker 2 And we asked him to be on the program. We're thrilled to have him on.
Hello, Professor. How are you?

Speaker 7 Hello, Mr. Beck.
I'm very well. Thank you.
Good.

Speaker 2 So, first of all, what do you teach at the university?

Speaker 7 I teach psychotherapy. So I help to prepare people who are going to

Speaker 7 be helping adults who are in mental distress. And I also help to prepare

Speaker 7 counselors who are going to be working in the schools, who are going to be working with children who are experiencing distress as well.

Speaker 2 So it's not that I would dismiss

Speaker 2 a professor of mathematics if he had the same view, but this is really in your alley. Is it not?

Speaker 7 It most certainly is. It most certainly is.
And the

Speaker 7 encroachment of

Speaker 7 critical race theory

Speaker 7 into

Speaker 7 psychotherapy is truly frightening in its implications for

Speaker 7 the mental health of both children and adults.

Speaker 2 Tell me why.

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 there are two different reasons.

Speaker 7 For children, children need a particular environment in which to flourish. And it's an environment where no conditions are placed upon their sense of self-worth.
Now obviously there are

Speaker 7 rules that they need to learn and so forth, but

Speaker 7 you don't convey to a child that they are

Speaker 7 good or bad based on

Speaker 7 what they do.

Speaker 7 And this ideology, and in particular Kendi's version of anti-racism,

Speaker 7 establishes very

Speaker 7 strict parameters

Speaker 7 of

Speaker 7 viewing oneself and other people as either good or evil.

Speaker 7 But in Kendi's language, he's using the term racist or anti-racist. But it's essentially a good,

Speaker 7 you're either good or evil morality ideology.

Speaker 2 And it's not.

Speaker 2 there's no,

Speaker 2 I mean, to me, it's teaching our children that you don't have a chance if you're if you're white now, you really don't have a chance because you're part of, you know, team evil.

Speaker 2 And if you are, if you are a person of color, well,

Speaker 2 they're teaching you you really don't have a chance unless we all get together and stop these people on Team Evil. So

Speaker 2 it's just crushing the individual, is it not?

Speaker 7 It most certainly is.

Speaker 7 It is saying that

Speaker 7 in order to be

Speaker 7 an acceptable person, you must first claim fealty to this ideology. And I would just add to that that

Speaker 7 for children of color and black children,

Speaker 7 they are not safe from this either because

Speaker 7 if they don't tow this line, then they have there are lots of interesting names that are being created within academia

Speaker 7 for them. The most

Speaker 7 the

Speaker 7 one that I've just heard recently that's come out is

Speaker 7 multiracial whiteness. And it's a way to take a person of color or a black person and say, well, you're just white.

Speaker 7 Which is meant to be an insult

Speaker 7 from that perspective. So

Speaker 7 I don't even know if this is

Speaker 7 this conversation can get derailed by

Speaker 7 thinking of this in terms of a white thing or a black thing.

Speaker 7 What this really is, is this is a racist thing. It's racism.

Speaker 7 And racism is contagious.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 all it needs is a foothold in an era of legitimacy, and then it will flow out into society and be adopted widely to the detriment of every person. And the University of Vermont right now is giving

Speaker 7 the habits of mind that inform racism, they are, the administration is presenting this as a form of intellectual refinement. And right now,

Speaker 7 it gains legitimacy by saying, well, we're focusing on whiteness. But, you know,

Speaker 7 no habit of mind that is so crude and so destructive is going to stay focused on whiteness.

Speaker 7 This is going to find its way to the doorstep of persons who have the least amount of power in society to defend themselves from it.

Speaker 7 Give me an example of that.

Speaker 2 What do you mean by that?

Speaker 7 Well, that

Speaker 7 people who

Speaker 7 new Americans, for example, in Burlington

Speaker 7 don't speak the language, they don't

Speaker 7 they're not familiar with our culture, they're just coming in, they're coming in from war-torn countries. Those people

Speaker 7 need a liberal society, one in which they are protected

Speaker 7 from

Speaker 7 from

Speaker 7 ridiculous views and

Speaker 7 categorizations categorizations about who they are.

Speaker 7 And traditional liberalism that looks at people as individuals and that insists that any claims about individuals be subjected to skepticism and empiricism helps to protect even the least powerful among us.

Speaker 7 When we start making unsubstantiated claims about a link between

Speaker 7 a particular race race and

Speaker 7 vaguely defined social ills, it tends to find its way

Speaker 7 down to the people who are not in a position to protect themselves.

Speaker 2 I hate to bring it here, but I unfortunately am going to.

Speaker 2 I'm a

Speaker 2 historian wannabe, and I collect

Speaker 2 a lot of documents and I collect a lot of the dark dark side stuff about America and the world. And

Speaker 2 I have the teachers' manuals from Germany that teach how the Jews are subhuman and

Speaker 2 how the children are to treat those Jews.

Speaker 2 And I see a lot of similarities here.

Speaker 2 You know, we had that study, what was it, in the 1960s, maybe 1960, where the classroom was told we're going to do blue eyes and brown eyes. And by the time they went out for recess,

Speaker 2 they were already in separate groups. I mean, this is what we're doing, isn't it?

Speaker 2 It is. And

Speaker 2 the thing is,

Speaker 2 Glenn, like, even

Speaker 7 two years ago, I would have said, oh,

Speaker 7 no,

Speaker 7 you know, we're not to that point yet. I think we are dangerously, dangerously close to coming

Speaker 7 to a point that you're talking about with these teaching manuals. I haven't had, I have been wanting to go back and look

Speaker 7 at what this looked like when it happened in Germany because I'm absolutely convinced that the thought processes and habits of mind and yeah, and the dehumanization are the same.

Speaker 7 I think where people keep getting derailed

Speaker 7 in recognizing this as

Speaker 7 much of a problem as it is, is that they think of this in terms of,

Speaker 7 well,

Speaker 7 this is just society talking back to the powerful, but they have to realize, and what they mean by that is

Speaker 7 that white people are considered to exist higher. on

Speaker 7 this intersectional ladder. But

Speaker 7 this way of thinking is so contagious. And it's, you know, I'm sure that there are good intentions behind

Speaker 7 turning towards whiteness, but

Speaker 7 it would take virtually no time at all for the conversation.

Speaker 7 And I'm even hearing whispers about this now, to where now Asian people are part of the problem because, look, they're even more successful than white people are.

Speaker 7 Yet you're beginning to hear whispers of that.

Speaker 2 No, there's not whispers.

Speaker 2 Hang on just a sec. Give me a minute.
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They're not whispers. They're screaming it from the top of their lungs.

Speaker 2 The vice president of the school board of San Francisco is saying that very thing right now.

Speaker 2 We'll continue our conversation with Professor Aaron Kinsvader in just a second.

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Speaker 2 We're with Aaron Kinsvader, a professor who is in trouble at his university. How much trouble, first of all, are you in?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 7 It's hard to say

Speaker 7 how or if

Speaker 7 this situation will escalate.

Speaker 7 What I can say now is that.

Speaker 2 You know, the Glenn Beck program is not going to help you.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 7 one of the things that I appreciate about you, Mr. Beck, is that I do think that you are someone who

Speaker 7 has spoken to both sides of the political aisle. And it doesn't mean that you have to think about

Speaker 7 you don't have to believe what people on the other side of the aisle believe, but you do send out a message of unity. And

Speaker 7 people are talking about our great

Speaker 7 polarization in this country right now.

Speaker 7 I'm starting to think that it's going to be like

Speaker 7 people like you and I who are

Speaker 7 talking to our neighbors and our friends and sitting down and saying, let's have a conversation about our differences that is going to lead us forward rather than the,

Speaker 7 you know, rather than institutions putting on programs like Turning Towards Whiteness. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I will tell you that it's going to take the local, it's going to take local effort and it's going to take person to person just reaching out and going, come on.

Speaker 2 I mean, because you said in your speech, let me see if I can find it here real quick. You said

Speaker 2 about unity that we have a lot in common. You said,

Speaker 2 we all share the same values. We all want the same thing for our university and our society.

Speaker 2 Is true?

Speaker 7 Well, not at the University of Vermont. But I do think that I am absolutely convinced that this is true among most people.

Speaker 7 But at the University of Vermont, their response

Speaker 7 to me, the provost's response, was to say

Speaker 7 my values do not represent the values of the university. And

Speaker 7 then encouraged to some degree

Speaker 7 members of the university and including colleagues in my department in their

Speaker 7 in the steps that they were taking to ostracize me. So that was a pretty shocking response from the provost of the university.

Speaker 2 Let me give you this. This is from the vice president of the school board in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 I can't remember her name. Her last name is Collins.

Speaker 2 She just spoke about

Speaker 2 Asian Americans. She said,

Speaker 2 Many Asian Americans believe they benefit from the model minority BS.

Speaker 2 In fact, many Asian American teachers, students, and parents actively promote these myths. They use white supremacist thinking to assimilate and get ahead.

Speaker 2 Oh, boy.

Speaker 7 That has just got to stop.

Speaker 7 The use of

Speaker 7 I mean we can talk about why this is so effective, but I think that one thing that the average yeah I realize that not everyone has time to sit down and study these matters, but people have must,

Speaker 7 must absolutely understand that the people who are saying things like that tend to be master manipulators. And so when they are

Speaker 7 deciding what to name things,

Speaker 7 they name them in such a way that

Speaker 7 it pushes

Speaker 7 the part of our psychology that responds to guilty feelings.

Speaker 7 which is a very, very

Speaker 7 effective manipulation technique.

Speaker 7 Pernicious.

Speaker 2 Pernicious. I cannot believe

Speaker 7 how ubiquitous this is.

Speaker 7 And white supremacy is a good example of that. Now, no reasonable person

Speaker 7 would

Speaker 7 not

Speaker 7 say that white supremacy, as it was at a time where

Speaker 7 one particular race was holding itself above another, was not a bad thing. And so,

Speaker 7 what people who are using terms like this have done is to say, we understand now that the very worst thing that you can call someone is a racist or a white supremacist.

Speaker 7 So we're going to change what that means in order to guilt people

Speaker 7 into not putting up too much of a fight

Speaker 7 when we ask that they adopt these other ideologies.

Speaker 2 A professor from the University of Vermont, his name is Aaron Kinsvader. I'm going to tweet out his

Speaker 2 video that he made that he's in so much trouble for. I want you to watch it and see where the problem is.

Speaker 2 And I'd like to ask him one more question. If he has time, one more question when we come back.

Speaker 2 This is the Glenback program. All right.

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Speaker 2 We are with Professor Aaron Kinsvader.

Speaker 2 He is a professor at the University of Vermont. He did just a really great, calm, collected

Speaker 2 video video on why critical race theory is poison to society.

Speaker 2 And he has received incredible blowback.

Speaker 2 I wanted to ask you two things. Since what you specialize in is the mind and

Speaker 2 counseling, counsel here for

Speaker 2 a couple of things. First, counsel me as a dad.

Speaker 2 If my child would come to me and say,

Speaker 2 dad, I know you're not racist, but it's not enough to not be racist. You need to be anti-racist.

Speaker 2 And I would follow that with, well, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 Because I am against racism. But if they're using it as part of this terminology,

Speaker 2 how do you explain to your kid when they say that to you?

Speaker 7 You would have to provide them with additional reading materials. Remember, that what the child in this case is being taught is essentially a a very effective rhetorical strategy.

Speaker 7 But the moment you start to complicate the assertion that the child is making in this case, they begin to have to wrestle with the idea of what exactly is meant by anti-racist and who gets to make

Speaker 7 those decisions. And so,

Speaker 7 oftentimes asking from a good faith,

Speaker 7 curious

Speaker 7 position to say,

Speaker 7 well,

Speaker 7 what about kids?

Speaker 7 Would you really want to tell a younger a kid who is younger than you that it's not enough? And

Speaker 7 if they don't adopt more of what you think that they

Speaker 7 should be, that they're racist. Would you really want to tell that to a child? Because

Speaker 7 the person who you're talking about, daughter, wrote a book saying that that's exactly what we should be doing. We should be telling pre-verbal infants that

Speaker 7 you're either racist or you're anti-racist. Do you think that's a good idea?

Speaker 2 But are you saying, I'm playing devil's advocate, but are you saying that you don't benefit from white privilege?

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 this is again, this is a very, very complicated discussion because

Speaker 7 any time that an assertion is made like that, you need to think about it in terms of the grounds that support it and to the consequences to which it may lead.

Speaker 7 And so, you know, you could make an argument that I benefit from white privilege, but the consequences to which that is going to lead is now we're going to be talking about Asian privilege. And then,

Speaker 7 just to really make a mess of society, we're going to start talking about

Speaker 7 the differences between brown privilege and

Speaker 7 black privilege. It is an incredibly divisive way of thinking, especially when there are so many

Speaker 7 perfectly acceptable alternatives.

Speaker 7 What we could do instead of talking about white privilege is we could begin using what's called evidence-based advocacy, where we take a very specifically defined problem,

Speaker 7 we measure its impacts, we take a very carefully

Speaker 7 put together solution, apply it to the problem, and see what happens. That's such a more effective way of helping with societal problems than

Speaker 7 statements that encourage people to begin

Speaker 7 to

Speaker 7 view each other in terms of race and in terms of how much power or privilege they have based on that race. So you could make the argument that I benefited from

Speaker 7 white privilege, but then I think if you're going to make that argument, you also have to be ready to talk about

Speaker 7 what the implications of the conversation that you're starting are likely to have on society. And they are not good.
We could take your materials, Mr. Beck,

Speaker 7 from Germany, look at them and say, this is where that goes. This is how that goes.
It's a sane thinking.

Speaker 2 Well, you could also take their own materials and show that,

Speaker 2 you know, we're talking about a meritocracy.

Speaker 2 They're saying that merit-based judgment is bad.

Speaker 2 That doesn't lead any place good.

Speaker 2 You have to have certain standards. And

Speaker 2 when they say whiteness, they mean all Western society, all of the cultural norms. Well, there might be some bad ones, but there's some also really good ones in there as well.

Speaker 2 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 One last question.

Speaker 2 This audience is filled with people that want to do something.

Speaker 2 They don't know exactly what. They feel very alone.

Speaker 2 And many of them probably are starting to see this now in their own business, but they've got a family to feed.

Speaker 2 How do you, what do you say to them about standing up?

Speaker 7 Well, okay, there are two things that you can do that will really help. One,

Speaker 7 reach out to your neighbor who might, if your audience is mostly conservative, then maybe reach out.

Speaker 7 and I know this is a hard thing for conservatives to do it's it really is a hard time to be conservative but you know maybe reach out to someone who's a little bit less conservative or more on the left but is a reasonable person and you know start a conversation there there are organizations like Braver Angels I'm not speaking for them but I'm a big fan that try to bring people on the right and the left together.

Speaker 7 And I think what happens is that we will all see that we are not nearly as

Speaker 7 alone as we think we are.

Speaker 7 We share much, much more in common as Americans than we have that divides us.

Speaker 7 The other thing that you can do if you want to do something to take action is what I did with my alma mater, Kent State University, is when they called me for money,

Speaker 7 I said, do you have a diversity, equity, and inclusion?

Speaker 7 initiative and they said yes and I said does diversity include it

Speaker 7 is diversity equity and inclusion specifically defined and specifically is diversity of thought considered to be a kind of diversity and is inclusion of different perspectives to be considered

Speaker 7 you know a kind of inclusion

Speaker 7 and

Speaker 7 they would not respond to my

Speaker 7 questions and so I said well until you do respond to these questions you will not receive one more dime from me as an alumni. And

Speaker 7 so

Speaker 7 do not support universities that are not willing to provide definitions.

Speaker 7 When they say anti-racism or they say equity or they say diversity and inclusion, do not support them unless they are willing to provide

Speaker 7 definitions and unless they are willing to do what they're supposed to be doing anyway, which is to say we are trying to facilitate diversity of thought.

Speaker 7 We are trying to bring together people and include different perspectives to bring them to bear on the

Speaker 7 intractable problems that our country faces. If everybody only does that, you will quickly see things change.
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Speaker 2 Talking to Professor Aaron Kinsvader, University of Vermont.

Speaker 2 Do the people

Speaker 2 that that you

Speaker 2 in your profession

Speaker 2 do they

Speaker 2 get it and are just silent or are they for this?

Speaker 7 I think the vast majority are

Speaker 7 they get it and they are not for this.

Speaker 7 But they

Speaker 7 as a profession, counseling and psychology and social work are very, very woke. And so anyone who speaks out publicly

Speaker 7 about this

Speaker 7 really receives quite a lot of backlash. But your average psychotherapist is, and I know this because of my work with some of the organizations that are working to counter this trend.

Speaker 7 People are increasingly seeking psychotherapy because they are just being devastated by these

Speaker 7 trainings

Speaker 7 where they're being singled out as racist because they said that doesn't sound quite right to me. Or

Speaker 7 they're

Speaker 7 young men who are coming in who have been told that

Speaker 7 they're toxic because of their masculinity and they need to work on that. And these people just come in

Speaker 7 who have begun to buy into this and they

Speaker 7 feel terrible about themselves and they're they're increasingly coming to therapists for for help. One of the things that is being worked on right now is

Speaker 7 a resource, an international resource

Speaker 7 of non-woke psychotherapists so that people know that they can go to these psychotherapists and they, you know, people are welcome to talk about

Speaker 7 anti-racism and so forth in these settings to support it, but they know

Speaker 7 that the therapist is not going to use the therapeutic alliance as a venue in which the therapist can push their ideology onto the client.

Speaker 2 Is this an online thing that people can find?

Speaker 7 Critical therapy antidote is what people should look up. And

Speaker 7 we're just getting going, but we're beginning to try to put these resources out there. This has just happened within the last year.

Speaker 7 We know there's a problem and we're trying to begin to address it. That's just going to take a little while.

Speaker 2 I will tell you, you're braver than I even thought you were. That is fantastic.
Please stay in touch with me. Anything we can do to help you,

Speaker 2 you please let me know. Thank you.

Speaker 7 Just keep reaching across the aisle, Glenn. You got it.

Speaker 2 That's Professor Aaron Kinsvater.

Speaker 2 With a name like Kinsvater. I mean, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 No, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 2 No, Glenn. I don't know.
I don't know what

Speaker 2 you remember that old commercial.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they used to run them constantly. Yeah.
That was, gosh, those would probably be racist today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they were anti-racist commercials.

Speaker 3 Back then, but they were probably

Speaker 3 advocating equal treatment. So they're way out of step with reality now.

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Speaker 2 You know, one thing we didn't talk about, one thing we didn't talk about was it last week or the week before,

Speaker 2 I still have this sitting on my desk. And I just,

Speaker 2 it is crazy. The Nevada Democratic Party

Speaker 2 has now broken up.

Speaker 2 Have you seen this? No, it's terrible news, though.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Well, listen, the Democratic Socialist of America took over the leadership of the Nevada Democratic Party,

Speaker 2 sweeping all five-party leadership positions and contested election.

Speaker 2 And so...

Speaker 2 Now it's just, I mean,

Speaker 2 it's all socialists. So the Democrats are leaving.
And like, yeah,

Speaker 2 it's now the Democratic Socialists of America. And I think that's happened lots of places.
You just don't really notice it.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 that's a little disturbing. It's a little disturbing, especially out West.
I just don't understand people who are from the West. You know, I'm from Seattle, and boy, I don't understand those people.

Speaker 2 What happened to you?

Speaker 2 My grandfather was right. My grandfather said, You know what? All these people that are just too weird for California are going to move up here and they're going to wreck this place too.

Speaker 2 Like, come on, grandpa, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's exactly what happened. I think California, I think these are California rejects in Seattle.

Speaker 2 They're the people who are like, California is like, No, come on, come on, even that is too crazy for us. And they're all in Seattle.

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Speaker 2 Yeah, just

Speaker 2 incredible how much things have changed so quickly, even since January.

Speaker 2 All right. We'll see you tomorrow on the radio.

Speaker 2 We've got a lot to report tomorrow. We've got a big week this week that you don't want to miss a single episode.

Speaker 2 We're going to teach you tomorrow and the next day a little bit about what's happening in the financial sector that will affect your life.

Speaker 2 That's on tomorrow's radio.

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