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Hey, only one more day until we all can unite.

I am so happy that tomorrow, you know, like in 18 hours, we're all going to be united again.

And it's going to be wonderful.

Well, I should say, as soon as they get rid of, this is what's trending on Twitter right now, Trump's army, Trump's new army.

By the way, these are not things that conservatives are doing because, well, I mean, Twitter wouldn't allow that hashtag to even exist unless it's from the left.

So we have Trump's new army.

We have a Democrat, Steve Cohen, suggesting that the military is too white and therefore we should suspect the National Guardsmen that are protecting the inauguration tomorrow.

Hillary Clinton has called for a 9-11 commission for the Republican terrorists.

Gee, what else do we have?

Maybe we.

should I go on because I have a

lot more, including how this is affecting now ordinary people in ordinary jobs that aren't saying anything.

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Trending on Twitter.

And it's not conservatives.

It's the left.

So therefore, it's not

hate speech.

Hashtag Trump's new army.

That's what's trending.

Trump's new army is vile.

I'm reading just some of the, a couple of the tweets.

And we know who they are.

They are our teachers.

They are our neighbors.

They are our police officers.

They are everywhere.

Expose the treason.

What?

Wow.

Remember, treason is a very specific thing.

I don't think we've ever accused anyone of treat.

I've never.

I said it approaches treason.

It's seditious.

It's sedition.

But treason is really, really hard to prove because you need, I think, two witnesses, don't you, in the Constitution?

And it requires the death penalty.

Of course, the left wouldn't know that.

Don Winslow.

New video.

Hashtag Trump's new army.

On January 20th, Donald Trump will no longer be the commander-in-chief.

He will lose control of the U.S.

Armed Forces, but take control of a new army.

It shows a bunch of, quite honestly, old people, like maybe two young people in there, but generally old people and women.

And that's his

army.

It's going to be a very tired army.

And we're going to,

in war, you know, you always

run low of things that you're using.

Fiber is going to be very hard to get hold of.

And the picture is the greatest threat comes from within.

So we have this, and I just want to paint a picture of what we're headed for.

I urge you, urge you to get together with your church tomorrow and pray.

Pray tonight and tomorrow like you've never prayed before for the Republic.

And you'll understand why.

Representative Steve Cohen, Cohen, a Democrat from Tennessee, during an interview Monday morning,

he said, this morning I was reading this on my Twitter account, I guess.

So he's got the news.

And people were reminding people of Anwar Sadat and Indira Gandhi who were killed by their own people.

Hmm.

He referenced the political leaders that have been assassinated by those who were tasked with defending them.

You know, I was thinking.

Was he?

Really, Steve, were you?

I was thinking, the National Guard is 90-some-odd percent male.

Only about 20% of white males voted for Biden.

So you have to figure that in the Guard, which is predominantly more conservative that I see on my social media, and we know it, there's probably not more than 25% of the people that are there protecting us who voted for Biden.

The other 75% are in a class that would be the large class of folks that might want to do something.

And there were military people and police who took oaths to defend the Constitution and protect and defend who didn't do it, who were in the insurrection.

So it does concern me.

First of all,

that is the worst thing you could say about our military.

Our military does not take an oath to protect the President of the United States.

That's Donald Trump.

That is Joe Biden.

They protect the office of the United States, therefore the person who resides in the office or getting the office.

They take an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States.

This is one of the only militaries in the history of the world that has taken an oath to the idea of the Constitution.

And

you're now tearing that apart?

When he was pushed on this,

are you saying really that the National Guard,

do you have any evidence at all?

Well, no, fact, absolutely not.

That's a quote.

Absolutely not.

It's crazy that you would even ask that.

I don't have evidence.

Absolutely not.

But you know, you draw a circle.

The first circle is the people who were for Trump and not for Biden,

as far as people who would be within the zone of folks you could be suspect of.

The suspect group is large.

So now you're a suspect if you didn't vote for Biden.

This is very uniting.

One of the reasons why I bring this up is because

their own people did kill those leaders.

Their own

people did kill those leaders.

And I urge you to pray that God will thwart anything.

Today, tomorrow, the future, anything,

any plot like that by anyone.

It will destroy the republic.

Now,

New York Times reporter has tweeted, former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying that the U.S.

should think about a 9-11 commission for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the far from the fight against al-Qaeda here at home.

So now we're al-Qaeda members.

Now we're as dangerous as al-Qaeda.

When we were debating the Patriot Act, I unfortunately was too late on this bandwagon to see the truth.

About About a year after, I was like, oh, wait a minute.

Boy, that was a mistake.

Shouldn't have done that.

But this is what we warned about, and so many warned before me about the Patriot Act.

You can just define terrorists any way you want, and that can be turned as a weapon against the American people.

It's extraordinarily dangerous.

But good news is, not anybody of any real, you know,

power

or any real name is behind this.

Oh, no, wait a minute.

Oh, no, wait a minute.

Can you play the Hillary Clinton clip, please?

Do you think we need a 9-11 type commission to investigate and report everything that they can pull together and explain what happened?

I do.

Let me, again, to your point of who is he beholding to, as I've said over and over, as I said to him in that picture of my blue sky.

You'll do this.

As I was leaving, what I was saying to him, as I was pointing rudely at him,

with you, Mr.

President, all roads lead to Putin.

I don't know what Putin has on him politically, financially, personally.

Gosh.

But what happened last week was a gift to Putin because Putin wants to undermine the power.

I can't take it anymore.

They're still

going after this.

Now,

an ex-military officer, retired Air Force Colonel Mo Davis, a failed Democratic congressional candidate, tweeted something.

He said that it's time to start a domestic war on American terrorists.

His tweet comes after Cawthorne, he is the congressman that is confined in a wheelchair.

He's an amazing guy.

participated in the rally for Donald Trump.

He said, I was the chief prosecutor at Guantanamo for over two years, and there is far more evidence of Congressman Madison Cawthorne's guilt than there was of the guilt for 95 plus percent of the detainees.

It's time we started a domestic war on sedition by American terrorists.

Now, this is the same guy who tweeted,

Screw, screw, they go low, we go high, BS.

When North Carolina GOP extremists go low, we stomp their scrawny, pasty necks with our heels.

And once you hear the sound of a crisp snap, you grind your heel hard and twist it slowly side to side for good measure.

He needs to know who whooped his ass.

That's a fantasy.

That's a

yeah, that's that guy's sick.

That's sick fantasy.

This guy is sick.

Imagine, I mean, I assume obviously he's been banned from Twitter.

So imagine what he would be tweeting today.

No, he's not banned as a county.

He's not banned from Twitter.

No, no, no, he's fine.

He still has his account.

Yeah, no, no, no.

He's not a domestic terrorist or inciting violence at all.

No, of course not.

Not even the

snap.

No, he's sweet.

He's fine.

He's fine.

What are you talking about?

We're talking about domestic terrorism and people who are spewing hatred.

We're talking about Republicans.

Hello.

Okay.

But Katie Corick has a really, really good idea.

Here's Katie Corick.

What do you do about people who are in the government who don't believe in our way of government?

Like Marxist.

Some are refusing to go through

magnometers or whatever you call them to check for weapons.

They're not wearing masks during the siege.

I mean, it's really bizarre, isn't it, when you think about how AWOL so many of these members of Congress have gotten.

But I also think some of them are believing the garbage that they are being fed 24-7 on the internet by their constituents.

And they bought into this big lie.

And the question is, how are we going to really almost deprogram these people who have signed up for the cult of Trump?

Okay.

So now we have to be deprogrammed.

We've heard this over and over and over and over again for months.

By the way, you can be upset tomorrow, but tomorrow, or today, but tomorrow at, I think it's noon, we unite.

We all come together.

Oh, really?

And we're going to be great.

We're going to all be.

Great.

Yeah, we're going to be great.

We're going to be great.

There is another story today from the Washington Post that says, while holding Trump to account is necessary, it is also insufficient.

There's a whole infrastructure of incitement that will remain intact even after Trump leaves office.

Just as we do with foreign terrorist groups, so with domestic terrorists, we need to shut down the influencers who

radicalize people and set them on a path towards violent and sedition.

Terrorist influencers?

Yes.

Some argue that trying to silence the voices of insurrection is a hopeless task, that hate will always find a way to get through.

I think that's about love.

It's true that there is danger and seditious plots.

that will now move to encrypted message apps such as Telegram, where they're harder to track.

But research firm Zignal Labs found that online misinformation about election fraud fell 73% after Trump and his key allies were suspended from social media.

That's a good start.

Anyone who cherishes our democracy should be grateful to the management of Facebook, Twitter, and other social media sites for their newfound sense of social responsibility.

We should expect at least the same level of responsibility from the broadcast media.

To its credit, Fox News acknowledged that Joe Biden won, but reports from Media Matters,

quote, in the two weeks after the Fox News called the election for Biden, Fox News cast doubt on the results of the election at least 774 times.

What losers.

Fox business host Lou Dobbs

said Trump's opponents in the government were guilty of treason.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

678 times.

679 times.

Oh, 680 times.

Oh, can you imagine these people in their lives?

But while we should expect better behavior from media executives, we shouldn't count on it.

CNN, listen to this, where I'm a global affairs analyst,

notes that the United Kingdom doesn't have its own version of Fox News because it has a government regulator that hands out hefty fines to broadcasters that violate minimal standards of impartiality and accuracy.

What country do we get our independence from again?

Yeah, the United States hasn't had that since the FCC stopped enforcing the fairness doctrine in the 80s.

Thank Kevin.

As

President Biden needs to

reinvigorate the FCC

or else the terrorism we saw on January 6th may only be the beginning rather than the end of the plot against America.

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Oh, no, this is great.

You want to know how far off we are?

You want to know how far off we are?

Russian foreign minister on Monday joined calls from the European Union officials.

So it's not coming just from Russia.

It's the European Union.

They're calling for the United States to rein in the censorship power of big tech.

In a Moscow news conference, he characterized the tech giants as extra-governmental entities that impose their own rules on public discourse.

Yes.

Quote, let's hope that American society will not let its elites use blatant censorship, fragrant infringement of the Constitution, and international commitments in its struggle against one another.

If it fails to cope with this problem, we should all be ready to face the consequences of such a failure of the American state.

And these consequences would be very serious for the global arena.

So, yeah, we're going to become very, very popular again.

Well, it goes beyond that, even.

President Obrador of Mexico

is saying similar things.

He said, I can tell you that at the first G20 meeting we have, I'm going to make a proposal on this issue.

Yes, social media should not be used to incite violence and all that, but this cannot be used as a pretext to suspend freedom of expression.

How can a company act as if it was all-powerful, omnipotent, as a sort of Spanish Inquisition on what's expressed?

I love this, though.

It's amazing.

Because I keep hearing these things from these foreign leaders, and I'm like, yeah, I mean, at least they're saying what's going on.

And then you listen to the wording, and it's basically saying...

It's not the private companies that should be able to censor.

It's the government that should be able to censor.

That's what Germany said.

Merkel came out and said, like, I can't believe they're having a private company could censor a public figure.

It's public figures' jobs to censor public figures.

They actually,

yeah, but the problem is

they don't have the First Amendment.

We do.

So it is, in their countries, it is the government's job to do it.

In here, it's against our constitution for the government to do that.

And at least they understand that things are going sideways here.

Yeah, that's true.

They know that and they see that.

And they're trying to warn us about it.

How frightening is that?

Very.

How frightening is that that all these countries that have always, you know,

either been our allies or our enemies, all of them are all coming together and going, This is a problem.

Bit hard to take advice from Germany on any governmental issue, though.

I just have a real problem

listening to their perspective.

Maybe they know something that we should have learned.

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So

the Capitol is completely locked down now.

Washington, D.C.,

locked down.

There's like no one on the streets because of the inauguration tomorrow.

And

Donald Trump is not going.

If God forbid something happens, it's going to be, what did he know?

When did he know it?

Why wasn't he there?

He's not the first president to not go to

the opponent's

inauguration.

I mean,

I don't think Jefferson and Madison went to each other's, did they, Pat?

They hated each other.

Yeah, I don't think so.

So

he's the first modern president not to do it.

But, you know, 100 years ago, this was happening all of the time.

I am really very, I just want tomorrow to be over.

I just want to make it through tomorrow

because tomorrow is a very dangerous day for the Republic.

And if God forbid something happens with this lockdown,

it's, you know, who else did it except the Republicans?

Who else had, you know, control?

And who else was there?

And who else knew?

And it was the military.

And

I want them to lock down this thing.

I want this thing thing to be the safest possible.

I don't, if you remember right, I was the guy, while I disliked Barack Obama, I was the guy saying, pray for the president.

The Secret Service is out of control.

And that has to be fixed, which it never was.

That has to be fixed so our president is not in danger.

I mean, you don't know.

He could buy

the drop of a hat.

He could buy a Gwyneth Paltra vagina candle.

And

And it could explode.

One just exploded.

One just exploded.

It's a woman who ordered it.

She was over in England and she said the candle exploded and emitted huge flames with bits flying everywhere.

She said, I've never seen anything like it.

The entire candle was ablaze, and it was too hot to touch.

Well, that's, I mean, that's a lot like Gwyneth Paltrow's too hot to touch.

There was an inferno in the room.

They threw the flaming candle out the front door.

And she said it was scary

that the vagina candle exploded in my living room.

Well,

I mean, there's a possibility they didn't expect these things to sell.

Maybe.

I mean, and they're just like, I don't know, grab some crap you have in the other room and just...

Put a wick in it.

Yeah, because you kind of feel like it was just an intention getter, right?

It wasn't, it's not an actual product they're selling.

And, you know, this woman sounds like it is.

They are selling.

No, I know.

But it just sounds like it feels like it.

Who the heck would buy that?

This lady buys it and then is complaining about it.

Like, I don't know.

I don't have much sympathy for someone who actually orders the vagina candle.

Maybe they're supposed to explode.

Yeah, who knows?

I don't know.

I never wonder what the vagina candle does.

Well, when you're, I mean,

if you are in

Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina and you get lost, you might might need a candle to help you out.

Yeah, you need some light.

Anyone got a match?

Yeah, I don't have a vagina match.

I don't think you need it.

Crap.

I don't even match needs to be.

I could be wrong.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know much about it.

But that could happen tomorrow.

He could get back to the White House and open up a gift from Gwyneth Paltrow, and it's a vagina candle.

We don't know.

We just don't know.

That's the revolution we deserve.

It started by a vagina candle from Gwyneth Paltrow.

Now, I have something else.

Do you remember the Pennsylvania Health Department issuing the safety tips for the orgies?

Do you remember this?

Yeah, yeah.

The COVID safety tips?

COVID safety tips for orgies.

Here you go, boys and girls.

Safety tips for orgies.

So you can safely, in the age of COVID, carry on an orgy.

Of course you can.

If you take precautions if you take precautions.

And

that's what the Pennsylvania Department of Health Director did.

She came out and she said, here you go, boys and girls.

Safety tips for orgies planned or spontaneous.

Wait, who did?

This is the Pennsylvania

Health Director.

I believe you said she did, right?

Yeah, she.

Yeah.

What are you talking about?

All right.

Anyway, here you go, boys and girls.

Safety tips for orgies planned or spontaneous.

Limit the number of partners.

Try to identify a consistent sex partner.

How, I mean, what kind of standards?

That's difficult to do.

It is difficult to

this is only half the story, guys.

There's more.

That's anti-orgy right there.

Wear a face covering, avoid kissing, and don't touch your eyes, nose, or mouth with an unwashed hand.

Okay, so you're having sex.

All right.

Don't touch your eyes.

Not a terrible piece of advice for any orgy COVID or not.

Amen.

Wash your hands with soap and water often.

Again, another, I mean, this is common sense in the orgy world, I'm sure.

Especially before and after sex.

If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.

Let me just say this.

If soap's not available, I don't think there's going to be an alcohol-based hand sanitizer around.

You know what I'm saying?

So

it's just, it's just let's be responsible.

Now, when that came out, I thought, that is great.

Who made this?

Well, it was Pennsylvania Health Secretary, Rachel Levin, or Levine.

I'm not sure how to say it.

Do we have a picture of Rachel by any chance?

Here's the good news.

She's just gotten a promotion.

Oh, good.

Yeah, she's just gotten a promotion.

She's now nominated to become the Assistant Secretary of Health.

in the Joe Biden administration.

Oh, good.

So she's going to be, and what's great.

You're kidding me.

No, no, no.

What's great is

she is a quoting, a deeply qualified choice for the job.

She'll bring steady leadership and essential experience that we need to get people through the pandemic, no matter their zip code, race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability.

She will be able to help meet the public health needs of our country in this critical moment and beyond.

Now,

in case case you don't know who Rachel Levine is,

she is going to be our first openly transgender

health secretary, assistant health secretary.

And I celebrated.

Finally, that wall is down.

Finally.

And so if we need to know during COVID when we have to close our businesses,

how do we have a safe orgy?

Yeah.

She's going to be there for us.

Especially if it's spontaneous, because how many times are you sitting around with a group of people and you think,

what do you say we all take our clothes off?

See what happens.

Yeah.

I mean,

if that's happened once, it's been

a theme of your life.

Yeah.

It's a theme of your life.

It really is.

Don't know how many times we've just been in like board meetings.

Yeah.

And Pat will just say, what if we took our clothes off?

And I've been like, that's a little inappropriate.

And then next thing you know, we're in an RG.

And I was absent for all of those meetings.

And can I tell you something?

Can I tell you something?

None of us washed our hands

before, during, or after.

We didn't know.

We didn't know.

I was not at this meeting mainly because I don't want to be included in any of the visuals in people's brains right now.

Glenn, I will say, on this front,

on this front, there's more on this front.

There's a story breaking in

overseas

in the UK.

There's a terrible story of an assault.

Oh, boy.

Yeah.

And

Trump

supporters over there?

Nothing to do with Trump.

I mean, I'd like to look into it.

Call CNN.

Call CNN.

They'll find the title.

They'll find the title.

Yeah, they will.

This is actually a very serious crime.

A rape occurred.

A rapist is going to prison.

Michelle Winter is the rapist, 49 years old.

The rapist attacked the woman.

She is having all sorts of nightmares.

She's waking up in the middle of the night.

Terrible, terrible story.

So, this was a lesbian rape?

Yeah, yes, yes, it was.

I mean, not good, but okay, I understand.

But now you understand, right?

Because it's a little hard to find.

Well, it's weird because you don't hear a lot about lesbian rape.

That does not happen all that often.

Yeah.

Imagine the surprise in the middle of this lesbian rape, where the victim

was

when she realized there was a piece of male anatomy present in the situation, she's the third guy, no, there wasn't a third guy, it wasn't a third guy.

The woman is a woman, but of course has male genitals.

Okay, now she identifies as a woman, yeah, Michelle Winter and identifies a woman.

Now, some would say, I'm sorry, what are her preferred pronouns?

Is it she, she, her, she, her, she, her, okay, she, her, they, all right, she, her, they, she, her, they, okay, she, she, they're, they, theirs, yes, okay, she, they're, they, theirs, all right, and so she

rapes a woman.

Okay.

All right.

Although she, as a wincher,

who identifies as a female but has a male anatomy, was jailed for 15 years.

Now, to me, there's a part of me that looks at this.

And I know this is the old caveman

part of me.

Don't get into the Trump.

Don't paint.

Don't even start.

Here comes the Trump militia.

Who sounds...

It thinks to myself, I read the story and I think this just sounds like a guy raped a woman.

That's what it sounds like.

How dare you?

To people who are uneducated.

Not how I heard it.

Is that how you heard it?

Not at all.

Okay, good.

I heard it as

a lesbian who is

clearly in pain.

We don't know what happened to her in her life.

We don't know what happened.

We don't know how she got the bologna in her pants.

Maybe it was a meat market accident.

We don't know.

And she was just like, help me, help me, help me.

And then actively laid down on on this other woman.

Right.

Now, I will say Michelle Winter does not look like a woman, but that's not how you judge these things.

You judge.

Well, I will tell you.

I'll tell you.

Let me see.

Let me see.

Let me see a picture of Michelle.

Because I don't know.

I didn't show you a picture of

the new health secretary, assistant health secretary, and she's beautiful, wouldn't you say?

Oh, yeah.

She's beautiful.

I don't know.

Oh, no, she's beautiful.

She's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful trans woman right there.

Beautiful.

She is straight up like a guy.

It doesn't look like a guy.

Wow.

And he's just caught up.

How dare you say that?

The good conclusion here, though, because I know there's people like me who are haters.

But luckily, what will happen is that.

Thank God Trump is out of office tomorrow, so we don't have to listen to this.

Thank you.

This rapist, this female rapist, will now join.

that was clearly hurting.

Okay.

The female rapist that was clearly hurting can now go and clearly hurt with the rest of the female population in prison.

Right.

Because that's going to go really well.

When you put this female rapist in prison with a bunch of other females, I can't think of anything that could go wrong in that situation.

But maybe, maybe there will be somebody.

Why do you want to put him into a place where other people who had some sort of baloney accident in their pants are taking showers with him because he'll also be be very, she'll also be very popular there.

Probably true.

Yeah, probably very true.

One of those is probably preferred

by anyone who understands justice, and that would be,

of course, she goes to the female prison.

What do you guys think?

Yeah, of course,

exactly.

It's like weird.

Wow.

Man, I gotta.

Help me.

I'm surrounded by Trump supporters, and they've made me say all these things in the past.

past.

Help.

I'm being held hostage.

All right.

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We're just talking about

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Katie Couric.

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74 million people.

That'd be tough to do.

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Hello, America.

Tomorrow is the inauguration of our next president.

And he will be my president and your president.

And tomorrow, we have to turn the page, as all Americans have always done, and said

his failure will be our failure.

We can't want the president to fail.

Now, that doesn't mean we like his policies or won't fight against his policies,

but

tomorrow we have to come together, not on politics,

but on our Constitution.

And there are, what is it, 75,000 troops?

It's two Army divisions that are now in Washington, D.C.

They're expecting something.

And yesterday,

Democratic Congressman Steve Cohen said this.

Listen.

Based on what you've seen, what is your level of concern of an insider threat?

You know, I was thinking the Guard is 90-some-odd percent, I believe, male.

Only about 20% of white males voted for Biden.

You've got to figure that in the Guard, which is predominantly more conservative, and I see that on my social media, and we know it, they're probably not more than 25% of the people.

that are there protecting us who voted for Biden.

The other 75% are in the class that would be the large class of folks who might want to do something.

And there were military people and police who took oaths to defend the Constitution and to protect and defend who didn't do it, who were in the insurrection.

So it does concern me.

Yeah, okay.

I've never heard anything more offensive to the military.

That's why,

coming up in just a second, we've invited on the program Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin.

His comments on that in 60 seconds.

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Let's go to Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin.

He is the executive vice president of the Family Research Council.

If you remember, that is the operation that actually had a leftist shooter come in and try to kill all of the employees at the Family Research Council.

He was, I believe, there that day.

We wanted to talk to him a little bit about

Congressman Cohen's remarks about the National Guard.

Welcome to the program, General.

Is he there?

I can't hear him.

There he is.

There you are.

Jerry, how are you?

I'm doing well, Glenn, and it's good to be back with you.

And thanks for having me on.

You're welcome.

I'm really more concerned for my nation than I ever have been, Jerry.

And

I worry about

the extremists on all sides.

I worry about,

you know, a Reichstag fire event, which won't matter who did it.

I mean, it doesn't matter.

It's the action that takes place after.

And the reason why I say that is because we have so many people in the media and in Congress and the Senate that are saying, quite honestly,

frightening things like

50% of the country is a domestic terrorist or you can't trust the National Guard or the military because only about 20% of them probably voted for Biden.

Can you comment on these things?

Yeah, well, I think you said it.

I think that is an incredibly offensive statement.

And I don't believe that his views represent the people of Tennessee, which is where he's from.

I know too many people in the military and out of the military from Tennessee.

And I just don't believe that

his views are representative of those people that are not from the state of Tennessee.

And I hope that they will hold him accountable for that because this is part of a bigger picture, Glenn.

What, I just left Washington yesterday just to get out of that city because

you can't go anywhere in the city.

You've got roadblocks at every turn.

It is

an apocalyptic scene and scenario there in Washington right now.

But what you're seeing in my personal view, and this statement by Cohen is part of it, is what you're seeing is a psychological operation.

And what they're doing is they're trying to send a very strong message message that people who voted for Donald Trump, people who are conservative, even people who are on the Christian scale,

are the enemy today.

And this whole thing is, as far as I am concerned, is just phony and bringing in so many National Guard.

But it goes back to what Cohen said.

He's trying to portray those people who voted for Donald Trump and those people who are conservative as the enemies of this nation when the reality is he and all of his cohorts stood by and watched Antifa and Black Lives Matters burn cities down, hurt people, kill people, and loot and destroy.

And there is so much hypocrisy in this, Glenn.

But what we're seeing as far as I'm concerned is a psychological operation going on right now against us.

So, Jerry, let me play the other side here because, A,

I don't have a problem with protecting the inauguration to any extent it's felt necessary.

You know, the country is on edge.

The last thing we need is an incident.

But I also was for Trump sending in the National Guard if the

governors asked for it.

for the National Guard to go in and have a massive presence in cities like Oregon to send a message, we're not screwing around.

You can't do these things.

But we're only getting one half of that.

So first,

is there,

you say even in today's world, there's no reason to have these kinds of numbers of troops in the capital?

I am not saying that there's no reason.

I'm saying that in this particular case and the inauguration here, given that what you have already drawn into that city, and for us to have, you say 75,000.

When I left there, I understood it was 25,000.

Okay, it might be 25,000.

I couldn't remember.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What does it, what does it take in terms of the National Guard?

You have federal marshals, you have FBI, you have Secret Service, you have Park Police, you have Capitol Police, you have the Metro Police, you have all of these different entities out there that are shutting down everything within three blocks of the mall from one end to the other.

And then you have these people on these liberal news programs that are coming on the stations and they're talking about how they're concerned about inside attacks from Trump supporters and

this whole thing.

You're looking at the visible part of it, which is all the truth, but then you're listening to the dialogue.

You listen to the talking points about how these disgruntled, dissatisfied Trump supporters are a major threat.

And you know what?

They're not.

They're not a major threat.

Yes, there were Trump supporters that went in that capital.

I certainly understand that

there were quite a number of Antifa there.

And they were the rabble rousers, but there were people that took it upon themselves and called themselves patriots to go in that capital and they need to be prosecuted.

Even though they were Trump supporters and called themselves patriots, they need to be prosecuted.

But I tell you, what I'm hearing now, what I'm seeing now,

is

messaging that is directed at and against those of us who consider ourselves to actually be patriots, those of us who served in the military, those of us who supported Donald Trump.

And

I'm disgusted with it.

And

we, I think the people who really love this country, and want to see what's best for this country, we need to get our act together and find our courage and start standing up and what does that mean to you general what that means is we have to speak truth ultimately truth will prevail and we need to keep talking about the dangers as you have done for a long time we need to keep talking about the dangers of marxism of socialism of what it really is we need to talk about what these ultra-leftists are bringing into our society if they go unchecked.

So when I say we have to stand up, we have to stand up and speak the truth because, again, ultimately, truth will prevail.

But if we start watering down the truth and we don't speak the truth into this society so that people

have been given both sides because we're afraid somebody's going to criticize us, then we're just giving in to the enemy.

But it's not just

criticizing us.

There's a principal at Cordova High School in Tennessee, in Shelby County,

and he was critical of the riots at the Capitol, but he objected to the actions taken by social media platforms to silence people.

He has been forced to take a leave of absence.

He probably is going to be fired.

I mean, there are people out there that are losing their jobs because

they

will speak out.

Speak to those people.

Yeah, you've got to,

if you are a father or grandfather or a mother or grandmother, you've got to think in terms of what's really important to you.

And what's really important to you, Glenn, as you know, is the future of your children or your grandchildren.

That's where your focus has to be.

You reach a point in life where you make that transition.

And if you don't stand, who's going to?

Now, I understand there are consequences.

Glenn, I got fired from a college I was teaching at when I got out of the Army because of my attitude towards letting men go in women's bathrooms.

And I took a very strong stand against it, and they fired me.

I understand it.

I understand that there are consequences, particularly when you're dealing with academia.

But I also know that if you care about the future of your children and your grandchildren, you've got to make up your mind now.

Are you going to stand or are you going to stand by and cheer for somebody else to take that stand and speak truth?

Yeah, you're going to get bumped off of social media, but there's there are new platforms that are being developed right now.

But we have got to keep speaking truth because the truth has to ultimately prevail.

And when all else is lost, people can reflect back on what they have heard because the truth is more powerful than the lies that are being told right now.

When I look at the color revolutions that

our State Department has been involved in,

they run pretty much like this is.

And I'm afraid with all the behavioral scientists and all the things on the left that

that's what we're seeing at the beginning of.

And if people understand what a color revolution is, it's even more important that you stand up.

Am I way off base in thinking that there are some that

are employing the tactics of a color revolution here?

No, I think that's exactly right.

I think you're seeing a number of things, and certainly the color revolution is part of this.

And I will just say this, Glenn, and people don't want to hear this, but we need to recognize that we are actually in a Civil War already.

Now, it's not the 1860 kind of Civil War, but we're in a Civil War already.

And

we're not divided North and South, but we're certainly divided every other way that you can possibly be.

You've got,

you know, you have division based on race, you have division based on ethnicity, you have division based on socioeconomic class, you have race debased,

you have division based on political parties or political points of view, and you've got big tech against every conservative.

So if this is not a civil war, what would classify as a civil war?

The problem is, I think Baba Leroy and Jr.

are getting fed up, and I think that's part of what you saw the day that they breached the Capitol.

And I will tell you, just so everybody understands where I stand, I sat down and wept.

I sat and wept.

I wept like a child as I saw the breach in that Capitol there

because 36 years, you know, supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States.

And that just, that was, it broke my heart as I saw them do that.

And these were so-called patriots.

Well, I understand.

Bubba Leroy and Jr.

are really frustrated, especially down here in the South where I am.

And I'm in Virginia.

And they're really frustrated.

They believe that this was a fraudulent election.

They believe that there'll never be another fair election.

I mean, there's so much, and then too many of them jump on these conspiracy theories that are just absolute nonsense, that are so far out in left field that no sane person would believe them.

And then they get even more frustrated.

And you saw, I think that was Brother Leroy and Jr.

there at the Capitol were the ones that

were there for patriotic reasons,

but ultimately transitioned over to being the bad guys.

General, I unfortunately have to let you go.

I have a break.

I will tell you.

You know what?

Let me take a one-minute break, and I want you to comment on this.

We are not in a physical war.

We are in a spiritual war.

And

until the American people wake up and return to a humble position of God, we are in no place

to

stand up

and expect any favors from heaven.

We are not on his side yet.

And it concerns me

the state of our faith in this country today.

I'll get your response on that when we come back.

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Back to General Boykin here in 10 seconds after station ID.

All right.

General Boykin, welcome back to the program.

You want to elaborate on what I just said?

Yeah, I had a long discussion with the ministry that ordained me yesterday.

It's interesting you asked that.

And,

you know,

we need to realize that the American Revolution was brought about in large measure by the Black Robe Regiment.

It was the pastors.

It was the church.

It was the church finding its conscience.

And then the Civil War

was spurned largely by the church once again and the Second Great Awakening.

And what we need to be looking for now is an awakening, not just a revival, but an awakening.

And I think that is coming.

I think that it is going to come as part of this because when things get so dark and people have no idea what to do or which way to turn, they always wind up turning back to God.

And I think that we're going to see an awakening here.

I'm not saying that it will ultimately be the first or the second great awakening, but we are going to see an awakening.

I guarantee you that.

And you're going to see the church resurface

and establish its rightful role in our society.

Well, I certainly hope so because, you know, I blame the media for this an awful lot.

I blame Congress and the and the Senate and both parties for this an awful lot and education but really I have to blame the pulpits

they're first in line because they weren't speaking out about any any truths that were uncomfortable because they were all afraid of you know losing their church or losing some parishioners that might be tithepayers and it's it's

it that is to blame where is the courage and the fire in the pulpit?

You know, you're absolutely right, Glenn.

And

can I just say, look at this guy in Georgia, Warnock,

who is pastoring the church that was pastored by Martin Luther King.

Crazy.

And this guy is saying, just like this guy, Cohen, in Tennessee,

he's condemning and criticizing soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines for serving in the military.

And he's saying you can't serve in the military and serve God at the same time.

You know, you talk about being offensive.

I find that incredibly offensive, but also very shallow in terms of his understanding of God's word.

And because God said to his disciples right before he ascended to be with the Father, if you don't have a sword, you sell your cloak and buy one.

He was saying, and build in my church, you're going to need a sword.

People are going to attack you.

And keep in mind that they, essentially,

all of those disciples were martyred.

And he said, by a sword.

That ought to be an indicator to you that God was given them an understanding, you won't build my church with the sword, but in building my church, you're going to have to use that sword to be able to do the work I've called you to do.

Lieutenant General Retired William G.

Boykin, thank you so much for your service over all the years.

Thank you for your friendship.

We'll talk to you again, my friend.

Thank you, Glenn.

God bless you.

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In California, there is something remarkable going on.

Recall Gavin 2020.

They have apparently over a million signatures.

This is the largest recall

in the history of the world now, or a history of America.

However, that's now being disputed by the Secretary of State.

Mike Nedder is with us.

He's the coalition founding member at recallgavin2020.com.

Mike, how are you?

Well, good morning from politically cloudy California.

I'm doing okay.

You know, I have to tell you, I have heard from so many people, people from California are coming into my neighborhood and just writing checks, like...

crazy checks because everything's so cheap compared to California, I think.

And the neighbors that we've gotten to know, et cetera, etc., most of them are Republicans that are saying, I tried.

I just can't take it anymore.

I just can't do it anymore.

But some of them are liberals who are saying the same thing.

It's just gone too far.

What's the mood in California today?

It's interesting.

I think people around the country need to understand

that the failed policy of California is exactly to your point,

as you will see in about a day and a half, are going to really affect the rest of the country.

California doesn't work.

That's why you're getting new neighbors, Glenn.

I know, right?

Because people are saying, but that's on the right and the left.

We do have 1.1 million signatures.

And the challenge we, not the challenge, well, the challenge we have is that the machine on the left is now trying to say, oh, this isn't legal.

It's a coup.

It's wrong.

It's not.

This is a legal process that all Californians are stepping up to do something about.

We probably have about 300,000 Democrats sign this, you heard correctly.

And this is all being done by volunteers.

We're not driven at this point.

We need big money to finish this off, but we're not being driven by any big money.

There have been no big donors that stepped up.

It's simply the people of California standing up and saying, hey, you know what?

We've kind of had enough.

76,000 people last year moved out of Los Angeles.

And if you want to do a little math, that's about equal to the homeless population.

So as the homeless population grows, people are moving out of Los Angeles.

So the Secretary of State in California says you only have 400,000 signatures.

You say you're over a million signatures.

Why is he saying this?

Well, let me explain the process a little bit because it's complicated because not like anything in California is complicated, Glenn, but it happens right yeah so especially to recall somebody I bet it's just a maze of a maze of rules

well it's not only a maze of rules there's a large logistic some states you turn them in centrally in California we have to distribute the petitions once we collect them to 58 different county registers what you when you see a report that's dated 1.6 which is reported on 117 a couple points to keep in mind One is we gather signatures, then we have to distribute them by hand with an appointment to each board of registers.

So the report that you're seeing that I believe reports about 410,000, something of that nature, one, is behind.

Two, we have to collect them.

We do a first-step verification process, and then they go into the Secretary of State who does a second-step verification process.

Now, it's also important to note in California, they only report these results once a month.

So we can turn in signatures every week, which we tend to do, but they only get reported once a month.

So are you around, what, 700,000, 800,000 from being in a safe zone?

Because I think you need 1.5,

but just so it's really clear,

what?

Well,

I can tell you've done your homework.

As you can see from looking at the Secretary of State report, which is actually amazing for volunteers, we have about an 85% verification rate, which means we need to get about 1.8 million.

Now, for all of those listening around the country right now, again, understand we really need 1.8 million.

So, although we've collected about 1.1 million, we have 60 days and a long way to go.

Can I tell you what amazes me?

What?

What amazes me is that, in spite of all the talk around the country, no big donor has stepped up.

This is all being done without paid petitions.

All right.

So you would think, and again, we're purely, I'm a volunteer here.

We're all a volunteer organization.

I would ask around the country, and we need and appreciate everybody's donations.

But if you want to save democracy and open up free speech, not that, of course, the five companies controlling it are putting any roadblocks up against us.

They've shut down a lot of the Facebook groups, shut taking people off Twitter.

So we have to get paid petitioners to get to this final mile to ensure that we get it.

So I'm saying around the country, really,

it's kind of a bargain right now for a million to two million dollars.

And I'm very transparent, as you know, I've been on your show before.

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It really is.

You would think that someone would step up around the country.

I don't care if they're in Texas, Oklahoma, Illinois, and with all these billionaires and trillionaires out there, someone would step up and say, let's really open up the conversation since apparently Facebook and Twitter aren't going to allow us to even have a talk online anymore.

Mike,

we will uh encourage our listeners to donate and anybody who has big bucks to step up recall gavin2020.com recall gavin2020.com uh the biden administration said earlier this week that california is their model

wow okay

and i would like to stress around

if you don't mind me jumping in okay I would encourage anybody out there who thinks California is the model to actually come I've lived in California for 50 years if this is the model for what you want the country to be it's not gonna work we have the highest homeless population got it that grows every day we have the highest taxes our roads are in disarray our governor who knew for six months a vaccine was coming can't even seem to get it distributed.

We have a lower amount of ICU beds per population.

Anywhere you look in California, with the largest population in the state, with theoretically the most money, I don't know where it is, but Glenn, but I'm sure it's out there.

We have the worst standards of living.

Our schools are shut down.

Our businesses are shut down.

If that's what you want the country to be, I'm not excited for you.

Yeah.

Thank you very much, Mike.

I appreciate it.

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We're in trouble because

one of the big moves that started with this big COVID bill and is,

as our last guest said, you will find out in the next couple of days, they are going to start bailing out these big states and these big businesses and the labor unions.

And I'm sorry, but I don't want to pay for that.

And I know elections have consequences, but why should I have to pay for unreasonable spending in New York and California?

I've lived in New York.

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But because I lived in New York, I know what the oppressive taxes and spending do, and I wanted no part of it.

So I moved to Texas.

I've always wanted to live in California, but I know what they're doing and I want no part of it.

Why am I now forced to pay for their mistakes?

I don't like it.

It's not like we're all in a crisis and,

you know, we're, we're all suffering equally.

These guys are causing most of their pain.

Causing most of their pain with their policies on police, their policies on the riots, the policies on COVID and the shutdowns and the draconian way they've been acting.

Add on top of it, they were already bankrupt.

This is, of course, why Madison wanted it to be more control in the more local positions, right?

Like where, you know,

the federal government isn't the end-all, be-all

of the entire system.

And that's what it is now.

Right.

I mean, like, we can all say that we have this federalist approach where like these states can take different approaches to these things.

And I'm with you.

We've talked about this before.

If California wants to try something nuts, I'm fine with that.

That's just the point.

Just don't pass it on to me.

And that's what winds up happening.

At the end of the day, everyone gets stuck with dealing with all these dumb mistakes that these states make.

And that's not fair.

It's not the way it was designed.

You know, Romney did RomneyCare.

It was a disaster up in Massachusetts.

Okay.

But I never spoke out against Romney Care when they were proposing it because that's none of my business.

That's the state.

So we criticize the plan.

We criticize it and said it would never work, but we weren't like, this has got to stop.

No, it's the state.

The state can do whatever they want.

We can tell you how insane it is, but if you choose to do it as a state, well, once it failed at the state level, the reason why they wanted to do it and will do it now at the national level is because we can just print money.

The states can't do one thing that the federal government can do, and that's print unlimited money.

But they can go into massive debt and then have the state print or the

federal print unlimited money to bail out the state.

And that's their way of getting around that little problem.

And that will impoverish everybody who played by the rules.

Everybody who has saved their money, has their money put away for retirement or whatever.

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You cannot do that to

a monetary system.

You can't just debase the monetary system like we are now doing.

We were doing under Trump, but we're going now into hyperdrive.

Yeah.

I, for one, am excited for the return of the Republican that cares about the spending.

I don't think you see them.

You don't think they come back?

I think now they're like, oh, I can't believe this Biden guy, he's spending all this money.

Oh, yeah.

I thought you meant honest ones.

Oh, yeah.

No.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know that there.

There's a few.

There's a few.

But there's very, very limited.

And now we're going to get these big, upset speeches from every Republican who hasn't said word one about spending for the past four years.

Now, all of a sudden, going to find this big budgetary discipline that we're all excited about.

And look, it's better than not having anyone oppose it, which is what we've had recently.

I will tell you, it has as much credibility as the Democrats have now on

law and order.

Yeah.

You know,

you were there.

When you were, you know, when you were doing it, it wasn't a problem at all.

Now that somebody else is doing it, you're like, oh, my gosh, gosh, National Card.

Well, those of us who were against it both then and now have some credibility.

It's impossible to take this from the media.

I agree.

We both, we were consistent.

We criticized the BLM riots and we criticize the Capitol riots.

In real time.

In real time.

They're just criticizing the Capitol riots.

In fact, I would even say beyond in real time because they're not going back now and saying, by the way, yes, of course, we were very upset about the BLM riots back then.

They're not even saying that.

All they're saying is like, well, when you bring up the BLM riots, you're trying to minimize what happened at the Capitol.

That's not what I'm doing at all.

I'm trying to maximize what happened back in the summer, the thing that you were ignoring.

You need to point out that that was, I mean, certainly more death occurred because of it.

Certainly more destruction occurred because of it.

Certainly more laws were broken because of it in September.

That does not minimize what went on at the Capitol.

I have clear eyes as to what happened there, and it was really bad.

However, you completely denied that anything was going wrong.

You were saying it was understandable.

Only after weeks and weeks and weeks did Biden come out with a half-assed statement about how, oh, well, we need to make sure that the Antifa, which is just an idea,

you know,

is staying in line with the law.

Like, it was, it was, it was.

They took part of the city and declared it not part of America.

What part of sedition or insurrection do you not understand?

Remember back in the day when they were taking over FBI outposts?

and trapped them, trapped them inside?

No one cared.

No one even, we couldn't get anyone to talk about that outside of this show and a couple of others on the right.

Nobody on the left, nobody in the mainstream media cared at all.

They basically said it was justified because we don't like the FBI.

The same thing that happened here.

It's justified because of George Floyd.

Why on earth Seattle becomes an autonomous zone because of George Floyd?

I don't think we'll ever know.

But I mean, none of this stuff is consistent.

And you would have some credibility credibility acting as if you need law and order now if you were consistent then.

If you were saying, we, even if we agree with their cause on racial justice, however, this is abhorrent and we're not going to listen to any of their complaints until the violence stops.

That's how I feel about the people at the Capitol.

I'm not going to listen to word one about what you say about anything until you stop overrunning the Capitol.

Now that they're not in there, we can talk about that stuff.

The same thing that was going on with BLM and the left, the media completely ignored it.

It is worth bringing up.

We're going to talk to

somebody who understands how people work, a behavioral scientist next.

There is a war against truth, and if we don't win it, intellectual freedom will be the casualty.

The man who wrote those words, Gad Sad, joins me in 60 seconds.

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Gad Sad,

the host of the YouTube show, The Sad Truth, blogger for Psychology Today, professor of marketing at John Molson School of Business at Concordia University.

He holds the Concordia University Research Chair in Evolutionary Behavioral

Sciences and Darwinian Consumption.

He's the author of the evolutionary basis of consumption, plus a whole bunch of academic papers.

Normally, I would dismiss because I don't believe anybody in academia, but this guy's one of the good guys.

Gad Sad.

Hi, Gad.

Hey, Glenn, so good to be with you again.

Thanks for having me.

Thank you.

All right.

I've been trying to think,

if I were in government,

I would look to behavioral scientists, and I know that the left does it with economic behavioral scientists with Cass Sunstein,

but I would look to behavioral scientists right now.

Or if I were a behavioral scientist, I would be ringing the bell right now because it seems everything the media and the left are doing

is causing

more and more people to feel disenfranchised, attacked, name-called, isolated.

It's not good, Gad.

As a behavioral scientist

in your own way, can you please talk to me about this?

Is there anything they've missed?

And if so, don't tell me because they'll do it.

Well, I mean,

you set up the problem really nicely, which is that, you know, if you look at U.S.

presidents, they have

advisors when it comes to

public health, they have advisors for the economy, they have advisors for all sorts of purposive and important areas.

But what ultimately drives all those domains is human behavior, right?

So the health, the lifestyle choices that we make that might result in downstream negative health consequences, which a public health person would care about, they stem from understanding human behavior.

So it has always

amazed me that there isn't as part of the cabinet of a president or the board of advisors someone who truly specializes in human psychology and in behavioral sciences so maybe our current conversation will one day result in such a position actually taking place

I'm not sure I like that though because that used to be called propaganda I mean the early guys you know Bernays that he was in his own way a behavioral scientist and watched behavior and knew how to evoke the right emotions to do all kinds of things some of it good some of it bad So I don't like the idea.

I know you're Canadian, but in America, the conservative doesn't like the idea of growing the government even bigger.

And an office of what would have been called propaganda is a little frightening.

But I do want them to blow the whistle on warnings.

I mean, are you paying attention to what's really happening here in America, Gad?

I am, although the past two weeks I've taken a social media hiatus, and let me tell you, my cortisol levels have gone way way down and my blood pressure has improved.

I will tell you,

I went to the doctor because I was having problems.

And the doctor said, right now, stop.

Stop right now.

He's like, your blood pressure is through the roof

and you got to stop looking at all this stuff.

And I'm like, yeah, kind of a problem.

But I did stop over the weekend and I, I felt great.

Felt great.

Exactly.

See, one of the things that I've done, which again speaks to the importance of understanding human behavior, is I have stopped ever reading anything once I post something.

Now, this is something that we all intuitively know, because

social media ends up being a cesspool of negativity.

In the past, just because we're all humans, we want to see what people think about the ideas that we've espoused, I might post something, and then a couple of hours later, you go check what the comments are.

Well, now, it's been two weeks.

I never do that.

First of all, I'm only posting positive things, right?

So that I don't get mired in all the negativity.

And I think my blood pressure has dropped maybe 10 points.

So

there's the power of understanding human behavior.

Okay, so now

I can't do that every day.

I have to pay attention.

I'm going to move your blood pressure up just a bit.

You have

trending today, hashtag Trump's new army.

Let me just read this to you.

On January 20th, Donald Trump will no longer be the commander-in-chief.

He will lose control of the U.S.

Armed Forces and take control of a new army.

We know who they are.

They're vile.

They are our teachers, our neighbors, our police officers, and they are everywhere.

Expose their treason.

This is being allowed to be seen when they're talking about, you know, calls for violence, et cetera, et cetera.

I mean,

I don't know what that is if it's not inciting violence.

This is from a New York Times reporter, former intelligence official on PBS NewsHour tonight saying the U.S.

should think about a 9-11 commission for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the lessons from the fight against al-Qaeda.

There are several stories, including those from members of Congress now, that are saying we need, in fact, the Biden administration said today during one of the confirmation hearings of the Department of Homeland Security chief that his main focus is going to be on domestic terrorism which is now I guess us

it is bewildering isn't it I mean I don't know if you saw the

the

interview with a representative I don't remember his name who said basically that you can't really trust all the National Guards that are there yeah yeah yeah tomorrow because ultimately many of the white males would have voted for Trump.

And to that extent, how can we truly try?

So, I mean, imagine how emboldened he must be in the current zeitgeist that he actually says this openly and proudly, right?

Rather than it being something on Martin Luther King's Day yesterday, something that he should have as a private thought and feel ashamed by it, instead he boldly espouses this incredibly racist position openly.

It's very scary as someone who comes from the Middle East, who sees what happens when societies are not built around freedom of speech and freedom of thought.

I am truly bewildered by what's happening at a breathtakingly rapid rate.

Will you adopt me in our family in case we have to get across the border, Gad?

Don't answer now, just think about it.

Okay.

Gad, so as a behavioral scientist, I mean,

I would love love to have somebody who is talking to me about

the meanings of words and how to phrase things, because I think we are at a really dangerous, dangerous point.

And I am trying to express what Martin Luther King did, and that is violence begets violence.

Hate begets hate.

Only love can conquer darkness and hate.

And

nobody really wants to hear that now.

I shouldn't say that.

A lot of people don't want to hear this because they're like, we are under attack as

people, as Americans, we're now under attack.

And they don't know what to do.

Yeah, it's frightening.

I'll give you an example of that.

Again, as a Canadian who, technically speaking, has

no dog in the fight and so on.

About a month ago, I posted

a tweet that was very critical critical of Nancy Pelosi.

Again, I'm doing this.

I thought I live in a free world.

I'm a Canadian.

I'm allowed to espouse my positions.

I'm a well-known professor.

So a colleague of mine, who is a personal friend of mine until that tweet, wrote a very nasty rebuttal and reported me to all of our

you know, common evolutionary behavioral scientist colleagues because I no longer was a scientist given that I was espousing such hateful rhetoric against Nancy Pelosi.

So I didn't know that Nancy Pelosi was a prophet that could not be criticized and that it was blasphemous for me to do so.

And if I dared criticize Nancy Pelosi, I no longer was part of the good standing members of the science club.

But he felt completely emboldened and justified to do that.

As a matter of fact, when I called him on his reprehensible behavior of trying to cancel me and report me to our common colleagues, he said that he was altruistically punishing me, right?

So his cancel culture instinct was actually a form of loving altruism.

That's how grotesque the world has become, guys.

So listening to the messages that are going on, being a behavioral scientist

and seeing

social media shutting people down,

silencing speech,

calling people enemies of the state and terrorists, all of these things that are happening.

Poke, poke, poke, poke, poke.

And

the media not being balanced.

I was against what happened in the Capitol.

I know you were too.

I was really dead set against that

and called for it to stop immediately.

But I also did that with Black Lives Matter.

It's the hypocrisy that I think is driving people nuts.

And when they feel like nobody's doing anything,

what do you foresee coming?

I mean, isn't this a recipe for absolute disaster?

Exactly right.

I've long said, Glenn, that the reason why I get engaged in the battle of ideas is because I think that we're still within a window where these debates can be adjudicated peacefully.

But I've repeatedly warned that if the peaceful attempts to have ideas pitted against one another doesn't manifest itself, in other words, if we lose the ability to resolve our differences peacefully through dialogue,

through debate, then in 10, 20, 50, 100 years, we will have a repeat of the society from which I escaped.

For the viewers who don't know, my family and I escaped the Lebanese Civil War.

And I guarantee you that the good people who are every day insulted as hicks and rednecks and idiots and Nazis are not going to go away quietly.

So either we resolve it today peacefully or we will resolve it tomorrow violently.

I continue to pray that it will be the former.

All right, Gad, hang on just a second.

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So, Gad, if you were me,

what would you be saying every day to the people who are very frustrated?

Try to always find a way to engage those on the opposite side of the aisle.

Don't exist in echo chambers.

Fight against lunacy.

So if your professor is espousing ideas that are insane and that are an insult to truth, politely engage them.

In other words, don't walk away from an opportunity to engage those with whom you disagree.

I think the problem is that people are frustrated because they can't find any avenues to dialogue, to debate, right?

The cancel culture is this big, ugly monster that is terrifying everybody into silence.

So don't succumb to that reflex of being quiet.

Engage people and hopefully you can change people's minds.

But also,

isn't it also the problem that we are so we're beginning to be

so set in our ways that we aren't willing to even listen to each other anymore?

I mean, you know, people are people on the left or right, and everybody says this about the other side.

I personally think that conservatives are willing to listen, but that is growing shorter and shorter, their attention span for for this, because they just keep getting kicked in the head.

But,

you know, when you sit down with somebody, you're not trying to win, you're just trying to understand and then have a conversation.

And I don't think that's happening anymore.

Look, yesterday, I was invited on Jordan Peterson's podcast, and the show will air in a few weeks.

And Jordan and I are

friends, and we agree on many things.

We disagree, for example, on some of the interpretations of Carl Jung.

And at the end of the podcast, he said, hey, you know, we need to have another chat because as I understand it,

some of my views on Jung you disagree with.

Well,

here we are disagreeing on this important matter, and yet we're going to walk away from one another being just as close as friends as when we started the conversation.

In other words, People can naturally disagree with each other without demonizing one another.

Civil society requires it.

Exactly.

And as a matter of fact, I don't want to be friends with someone who agrees with me on everything because it's going to be a pretty boring friendships, right?

So friendships have to be anti-fragile.

Glenn and I should be able to sit with one another.

I remember the first time when I came on your podcast in Texas, we were talking about religious belief.

And, you know, as you know, I'm an atheist.

You're not.

We could have a very meaningful conversation on this important topic and we could walk away from one another, being as close friends as when we started that conversation.

People have to develop that reflex that it's okay to disagree, but we don't have to demonize one another.

It sounds so obvious and yet so few people are capable of doing this.

I have to tell you,

I can't have conversations with people who are religious or an atheist that say, hey, if the proof was there, and with God, it's impossible to do this, but if the proof were there

one way or another, would you change your mind?

Well, I'd be an idiot to not at least really examine the truth.

And then if it really was provable, of course I would.

Of course I would.

And if you can't, if you don't enter into conversations, and that is, again, the problem, I think, with so many people, especially on the left, because they're emboldened by society.

They can say anything.

And society says they're right.

And so it's really hard to get into a conversation with somebody who has that arrogance of all of society and all of academia behind them.

Well, academia, social media,

the media in general, all of it.

And so all of the choke points of the intelligentsia system is telling them that their values and beliefs are correct and those who don't share them must be Nazis.

It's a dreadful society to create.

So,

Gad,

you're Jewish by birth, are you not?

I am Jewish.

There's a lot of talk about, you know,

least from me, and I'm going to pose this question, then we'll come back and you can answer it.

That we can't forget what happened in Germany.

But what that means is you have to look for the seeds that were planted early.

It's too late once you're like, oh,

they have showers, just like in Germany.

Never forget.

It's too late.

But society, the media, everybody else is saying now after four years of calling Donald Trump a fascist dictator like Hitler, you can't say that.

And I'm not saying that about people.

I'm saying that about the seeds that are being planted along the way.

I'd like you to talk about that a little bit and how we can talk about it without setting the entire world on fire.

What does never forget actually mean?

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It doesn't end well.

Gad Sad

is with us, the evolutionary behavioral scientist, author of The Parasitic Mind, and host of The Sad Truth with two A's.

Dr.

Gad Sadd joins us again.

So I asked you before the break,

doesn't never forget, if you understand that phrase, require you to look at the past and the present and call out the roads when you start to split and go down the wrong path.

Doesn't mean it ends there,

you know, a death camp.

But isn't it imperative to call out those warnings early?

Indeed.

And so let me use the term, the tragic term, never forget in a particular context here.

Never forget that free societies are built on certain non-negotiable principles that you should never deviate from.

So, and here I'd like to draw a distinction between two ethical systems.

One is called deontological ethics.

The other one is called consequentialist ethics.

Deontological ethics operates in absolute truths.

If I were to say to you, it is never okay to lie, then that's a deontological statement.

If I were to say to you, it is okay to lie in order to spare your spouse's feelings, then that's a consequentialist statement.

Well, when it comes to certain principles of freedom, never forget that you should be operating within the deontological realm.

What I mean by that is, when it comes to freedom of speech, the qualifier, I believe in freedom of speech, but, and then dot, dot, dot, should never exist.

There is no but.

Right.

I am Jewish.

I escaped religious persecution in Lebanon, and I am a free speech absolutist who supports the right of Holocaust deniers to deny that the Holocaust ever took place.

Nothing could be more offensive than that.

You cannot come up with a more offensive position.

But you can't.

There's no freedom of speech.

You don't need protection on speech if everybody likes the speech.

It's only the speech that you find offensive and really

almost stomach-churning that has to have the support.

But the enemies of freedom come up with ever more powerful propaganda ways,

to go back to what you mentioned earlier in our conversation, to try to justify their nefarious designs.

So for example,

it used to be that freedom of speech is absolute in the United States unless you were directly inciting violence.

Well now you alter what it means to directly incite violence.

So if Donald Trump says walk to the Capitol Hill and protest peacefully but loudly, that becomes incitement to violence, right?

A similar trick is done with hate speech, right?

Yes, of course you have freedom of speech, but don't criticize Islam because then that becomes hateful and it marginalizes Muslims and it might cause people to be violent against them.

No, that's just BS propaganda.

In a free society,

as long as you don't directly incite violence, right?

You say, let's go to synagogue X tomorrow on Tuesday and kill all the Jews, then everything is allowed.

Okay?

And if we forget those principles, we will sink towards the abyss of infinite lunacy.

Well,

I think a good portion, especially the younger, have forgotten that in America.

Get, I know that there's this idea that we can push back

against these falsehoods and big problems and logic.

And we've been going down this road for a while, and I've always felt confident that

if ideas are out there in a free market, I like competing in that free market.

But more and more, that free market is being throttled by people being canceled on social media and their voice being silenced at work and at work and

people are terrified to say anything.

How can you push back against this stuff if you can't actually have your voice be heard?

As I said, there are.

The battle of ideas can be fought on many levels.

If you have a big platform, a la Glenn Beck, you can use it.

But it's also trench warfare, right?

You don't need a big social media account to change people's hearts and minds.

If you hear one of your friends on Facebook espousing a position that you think you could contribute an opposing position, engage them.

In other words, so in chapter eight of the parasitic mind, I talk about activating your inner honey badger.

What I mean by that is the honey badger is a profoundly ferocious and fierce animal that can withstand an attack of six adult lions.

Let me just rephrase it: it's Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is a a honey badger.

Yeah, he is.

Now, the reason why all the leftists hate Donald Trump, the honey badger, is because as we've discussed, I think on a previous appearance of mine on your show, he presents his fierceness in a way that is aesthetically injurious to them, right?

He's not packaged nicely.

He doesn't have the orator skills of noble prophet Barack Obama.

Therefore, he is grotesque.

He is vile.

He is repulsive.

He is dangerous.

He might be saying things that are perfectly reasonable that any free-loving person should support, but he does it in such a way that only my disgust impulse is triggered, and I don't even pay any attention to the substance of what he's saying.

And so activate your inner honey badger and engage people.

Don't be coward into silence.

But isn't it more important?

I mean,

isn't it more effective

to

target the heart over the mind first?

I mean, you'll have a much better...

Donald Trump

has half the nation that hates him.

And it's because he is a honey badger in all things.

Instead of being like, you know what?

I'm cool.

I'm cool with that.

You know what?

I disagree with you on this and this.

He's just a honey badger, at least in public.

I don't think he's like that.

I've never seen him like that in real life, but

in his video life, he is like that.

And

should we be targeting the heart first?

So it depends for what, right?

So we're both thinking and feeling animals, but the challenge is to know when to activate which system.

If I'm trying to sell you a perfume, I wouldn't start giving you the chemical breakdown of the perfume.

That would be engaging your cognitive process for a product that's hedonic.

Instead, in the advertisement, I will show you a sexy woman on a horse with her hair flowing,

and then I will call the brand Mistare, right?

Because there I am engaging your emotions.

So it's not that for all contexts we should be engaging our emotional system.

The problem is to know when you should activate which system.

If I'm trying to convince you that you should invest with me for the following reasons, then it should be cognitive-based.

But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

But we have had an ad campaign run by the press and by the left non-stop for almost 12.

15 years that if you're a conservative, you're a monster.

And so we haven't had the nice ad campaign.

So people come into conversations thinking you're illiterate, you've never read a newspaper, you're a monster.

And you're married to your sister.

Correct.

So, I mean, that's what I mean.

There has to be, we have to go an extra step of

also being kind and gracious and likable

if we're trying to change anybody's mind or change their heart towards us, because

they don't assume that.

They go in with the exact opposite assumption.

Yes, and it goes back to the first item that we discussed.

Should you have behavioral scientists helping in developing public policy?

Well, what you just said speaks to the importance of having behavioral scientists who know how to frame and construct maximally effective messages, right?

Let me give you a very quick example.

If I tell you that this toothpaste, three out of five dentists recommend it, It's exactly the same thing as telling you that two out of five dentists don't.

They're literally logically equivalent statements.

But it turns out that if I frame it in the positive frame, three out of five dentists recommend it, people actually think that the toothpaste is better than when I gave you the negative frame.

So imagine how easy it is to manipulate people.

And you've got guys like me who can help you navigate through the minefields of propaganda.

Well, I appreciate your

guidance and your book.

It is.

Just give a quick sell of the book for Parasitic Mind.

It's tremendous.

Yeah, so thank you, Glenn.

Basically in the book, I argue that there's a bunch of idea packages, these really bad parasitic ideas that have been spawned on university campuses that then get proliferated across

the world in politics, in business, and HR departments.

And I offer ways by which we can inoculate and vaccinate ourselves against these parasitic ideas.

Thank you so much, Gad.

I appreciate it.

The name of the book is The Parasitic Mind by Dr.

Gad Saad.

You can also find him, the host of The Sad Truth on YouTube, S-A-A-D, The Sad Truth.

And we thank him for his time.

Thank you very much.

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As you look at what is happening every day,

I unfortunately hope that it becomes more and more clear in your mind where we're headed.

These are the days that I spoke of.

These are the days that I said would come.

And it's going to get worse before it gets better.

But these warnings that I've been giving you

also include the warnings of the Bubba effect.

If you've heard me talk about it before,

that is one thing that the military has prepared for.

And that is Bubba

seeing, as it was described to me in 2006, Bubba seeing a Sikh after a big terror explosion gets angry and goes into the 7-Eleven where the Sikh is behind the counter and he's like, it's all you Muslims.

And he shoots him because he's got a turban, not knowing what he is doing and being wrong if he would have shot him anyway.

But just Bubba is fed up with nothing ever being done.

So he does it himself.

That's when the crowd gathers against the federal government coming in to investigate this murder and to put Bubba in prison.

They say, we'll take care of Bubba because

we know what he did was wrong, but you guys haven't done anything about it.

And it's your fault because he was just trying he's stupid and he was wrong but he was just trying to stand up because none of you would

that's what the special forces uh team told me in 2006 was their greatest fear and what they were really working on

well that's we're there we are there

We heard Lieutenant General Boykin say on the road on the program earlier today.

if you missed it, check out the podcast.

He talked about, you know, Bubba.

And he said,

this is a very dangerous situation.

So

please do your favor.

Do yourself a favor.

Do your family a favor.

Do the Republic a favor.

And

pray for peace, peace in your own heart, peace in the land and

protection, just protection over the events tomorrow across our land.

Look at how much ground has been taken because of last Wednesday.

It is, it's remarkable how fast.

One more thing.

And we lose our voices.

We lose our,

I think we lose our gun rights.

We lose all kinds of things.

And then

everybody's in chaos.

So please pray for peace.

And

if you see something, say something.

What a ridiculous.

But other than all of that, everything's fine.

Everything's fine.

Everything's great.

Well, I'm remodeling my house and I still only have a bedroom.

But the good news is I have the bedroom and the bathroom that haven't been torn up.

And the good news is today they're tearing up the bedroom.

And for some reason, we're still living there.

Why?

I don't know.

Why would you try to try?

There's nothing wrong with that.

I have no idea.

It seemed like a good idea.

And, you know, and I still am like, well, no, because, you know, I need to be able to say, no, over here, put that there, do this, do that.

And quite honestly, I don't care if it comes out looking like Picasso.

put the house back together at this point.

What is I'm done?

What's your timeline on these repairs?

Because

you're not fun to be around right now.

Thank you.

Just to say, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I don't know.

You know,

they say probably four weeks more, but

good luck with that.

Yeah, I think

maybe the next time the election, not the midterms, next time the election happens, the presidential election, I think we'll be set.

I think we'll be set.

You're better off in a homeless encampment.

Yeah.

Wait, I'm what?

Oh, a homeless encampment.

I thought you made it an internment encampment.

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