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Welcome to Monday.

We're so glad that you're here today.

We have a lot to discuss.

Parlor

is officially down.

If you try to get to Parlor today, you won't be able to do it because Amazon services have

taken away all of their space.

They are no longer allowed on the internet.

You're going to need to take a deep breath today,

but I

think we have a path forward and it may be just this audience, but I have always told you this audience is going to save the Republic.

If

you have been with me for years

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And now is the time for you to screw your courage to the sticking place, to quote Shakespeare.

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I think you feel it.

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And I know a lot of people that are just disconnecting from the news and disconnecting from what's going on.

And they tell me, and with a

with complete understanding, I listen to them.

I feel better, Glenn.

I feel better when I don't listen in the news.

I understand that.

But now is not the time to disconnect from what's going on because the world is changing quickly.

Something noteworthy and historic has occurred over the last couple of days.

It is something historic, but it is also something terrifying.

And I'm not talking about the Capitol riots.

Those were perhaps terrifying for a brief moment.

but they are being made historic by the type and scope of media coverage that they are getting.

But anyone trying to make the claim that American democracy almost died that day or a small handful of violent thugs represent some existential threat to the U.S.

Constitution has quite simply lost the plot.

It is important to realize that the world we live in after the Capitol riots is not the world we were in on Tuesday.

We have crossed a threshold, and we now live in a very different nation.

And it's not because of the riots themselves.

Those could have been nothing more than a minor blip in the grand scheme of things.

But in case you don't feel or haven't realized it yet,

we now officially live in a united nation

in name only.

And that is because of the way the left

and even some of those so-called centrists

have decided to respond.

We now have two distinct countries inside of one nation.

We have two distinct peoples, two distinct cultures, two distinct economies,

and one economy

is truly under attack.

We are way past now being just politically or ideologically divided.

The leftist coalition now includes governments, media, and big tech.

And

they have declared war, although a Cold War,

they have have declared a Cold War on us.

It's economic warfare, designed to remove

the ability

for half the country to communicate ideas, communicate with each other, even be able to make a living.

We have seen hints of this.

in the last few years where credit card companies and banks have refused to do business with firearm companies, where single individuals were targeted to be deplatformed for what social media companies deemed to be hate speech.

Those were trial balloons.

Those were probes to see how we would respond, to see how the courts would respond.

They have been laying in wait.

ready for a catalyzing event that they could use to justify open economic warfare.

And the capital riots foolishly have given them that event.

I actually, I know I might sound

tense today, and I am,

because every word that any of us speak live,

unscripted, most of the time,

is going to be monitored, scrutinized, and twisted.

And the

responsibility to keep a voice that can be heard

is overwhelming on all of us.

Dennis Prager,

Rush Limbaugh,

Dave Rubin, Mark Levin.

This morning, they have officially deplatformed Parlor from Amazon.

Over the weekend, it was Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google, but now the Amazon web services have shut them down.

They are no longer able to...

You can't find them on the internet anymore.

They're gone.

Now these companies, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google, they did it all at the same time.

I want you to know this is not about Trump.

This is about them.

The far left has talked about breaking up these companies for a long time.

Elizabeth Warren, even I think Kamala Harris was talking about breaking them up too, wasn't she, during the primaries?

They've talked about breaking these companies up.

They know that the power structure has totally changed.

They must find a way to be on the side of the left.

This is something I warned you of four years ago, that there would come a time when unemployment and the beginning of this transition

and the economy would change and people would begin to lose their jobs and you wouldn't be able to replace them because a profound technological change is coming.

And I told you at the time, high-tech will need the government and the government will need high-tech.

And they will work together

to preserve their power and their position.

This is what's happening today.

Donald Trump and the riots are an excuse.

And it is extraordinarily difficult to swallow the hypocrisy.

It's extraordinary to hear about all the hate that was on parlor.

When things like

Kathy Griffin, she reposted the picture of her with the beheading of Trump.

Trump's bloodied head.

She reposted it on Twitter

on Wednesday of last week.

No one has said anything about it.

Still,

still from slate is the tweet.

Non-violence to protest

has always been important, but so is violence.

It's very difficult to swallow.

But we're the people that understand life is not fair.

Let's not become all that we despise.

This is not

the end of this.

This is where the left is starting.

Today they say they're deplatforming people because they're inciting violence or for hate speech.

But after that will be anything they decide is fake news, anything they decide is anti-science, anything they believe may lead to the next Trump.

And those who persist in standing for freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to keep and bear arms, those people will be targeted for deletion.

You will be hounded, boycotted, fired, ostracized, and deplatformed.

And the louder and the more significant and effective your voice is, the bigger the target is on your back.

First, let me say this.

I will never stop standing for freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to keep and bear arms, and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

That is the American thing to do.

And I don't care what you do to my voice.

I don't care.

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I will continue to stand because I know the truth wins in the end.

I believe Nelson Mandela

was a hero,

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I want to take a one-minute break

and talk to you about the economy that is coming.

There are two nations.

And I want you to truly understand what's happening technologically

just over the weekend and what it means to you.

We'll do that in 60 seconds.

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I want you to know that

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I don't know.

We'll need our own banking and financial systems, our own credit card processing systems, and more than likely, our own credit card brands.

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It's Monday.

I am going to continue to

brief you on the things that we need to do and

on the decisions that you have to make right now.

I wanted to bring Pat Gray in from Pat Gray Unleashed the podcast that you could hear wherever you're allowed to hear podcasts from people on the right.

So far.

Good morning, everybody.

And you, of course, can get the podcast along with Dave Rubin,

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Hi, Pat.

Hi, Glad.

How is your weekend?

Oh, terrific.

Yeah, terrific.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Almost perfect.

What could go better?

Is there anything that you can think of that could be better right now?

I don't, I can't put my finger on anything.

You know, I feel

it's strange.

I am committed.

I know what I think.

I know what I have to do and the direction that I am going in.

And

I say that I'm not afraid.

And I'm not, but I am.

Does that make sense to you?

I am committed.

I am committed.

But it's an awesome commitment.

And I think if people aren't afraid, they don't understand what's coming.

Yeah.

They should understand, though, by now, because

it just, it got real all up in here over the weekend.

All up in here.

All up in here.

Yeah.

The Twitter thing, you know, is made more dangerous, I think, by so many people, including conservatives, saying, well, they're a private business.

They can do what they want to do.

And that's not an accurate statement, really.

They invited the

government into their business at the beginning when they wanted the protection from the government.

So now they got to live.

They have to abide.

At least they should have to abide by their agreement with the government, which is to be non-biased.

And nothing could be further from what's happening.

Oh my gosh.

This is the hardest thing.

This is the hardest thing is to swallow the hypocrisy.

Oh, it's, oh, man.

I mean, what is still on Twitter is phenomenal.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

You know, they don't want people that are radicals that want to destroy the government to organize.

Then why are you still allowing Antifa?

Right.

I mean, it would still be really bothersome if they were consistent because I don't like the fact that a group of people that are in bed with the government control what you can see or read.

So I would be just as upset.

If they took Antifa off, but you must take them off if you take the other side off.

Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And

what if Kroger and Safeway and Albertsons all decided, yeah, you know what?

We're not going to sell food to anybody who voted for Joe Biden.

We're not going to sell them any food.

I think

people would probably be outraged, right?

You think?

I think so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, why?

They wouldn't say, well,

they're private businesses.

They can do whatever they want and sell to whomever they want.

Well, that's because they're essential.

Food is essential.

It's actually the other way around.

Free speech is what's essential because it's guaranteed by the Constitution.

Food isn't.

I mean, think about that.

You're not guaranteed to have food by the U.S.

Constitution.

But constitutionally, though, you're not guaranteed to be able to post on any individual's website.

Free speech does not mean right.

Well, that's part of free speech, though, isn't it?

Well, but you don't get to free.

I always think of this.

Let's say a church decided to come up with a social network, a religious social network.

Would they be required then to allow pornography?

Would they be allowed to require

statements that were against God?

Like

atheists to come on and spam the site?

Would they be required to do that?

If they take government assistance, if they take government protection that says they can't be sued

for what's on their site, then yes.

If you're willing to carry the burden just like we do, if we slander somebody, if we say something wrong, we're going to be held accountable for it.

Look at Parlor.

They're held accountable for everything that is on their site.

They have no protection from anyone.

They have no protection.

Facebook.

They still have protection from copyright claims.

That was what Section 230 is about.

And so they are protected from that.

And again, Section 230, whether it says anything anything about being politically neutral is a totally different story.

But still, like the, in my mind, just in a general conservative perspective, right?

There should be a, like, I think the Mormon church should be able to come up with, or an offshoot of the Mormon Church.

Should be able to come up with something that says, you know what, you can't come on here and criticize Mormons.

This is just a conversation between Mormons.

We're talking positively about Mormons.

Like, which they should.

I should agree with that.

They should.

And the same with the Catholic Church and the same with Islam.

But if they do, they make that site.

They shouldn't be able to get sued because someone posts, you know, the latest Iron Man movie on it because it's copyrighted.

They shouldn't be able to be responsible for that.

I mean, it's a tough, it is tough because I totally agree with you, Pat.

They're not kicking us off for copyright infringement.

They're not copying.

They're not kicking us off.

No, but you're saying that the protections they get from Section 230, that's what they get.

They get protections from things like that.

Or like threats, right?

Like a death threat.

If we just posted like on the blaze a death threat to someone, right, as an article, we would be held responsible for that.

If someone posted in the comments, we would not.

If you are,

if you are saying I'm a publisher and I'm responsible for what's on my site,

then

you don't get the copyright protection because you're responsible and you could have your own material, but you do get protection from commenters, for example.

But they don't have their own material.

Or when they made this deal, they didn't have their own material.

That's why it's a good business.

Right.

There's no content creation department with these people.

Exactly.

So they don't have to deal.

They only have to deal with what they post, which is the only reason social networks are able to exist and why I think the ultimate answer here is they should just go away.

We should just forget we ever did it.

Again, if you go back to a view to a kill in the James Bond movie, Max Zorin's plan was to set up all these bombs that would flood Silicon Valley back in the 80s.

If they had done that, do we have any of these problems?

Probably not.

Probably not.

I mean, it's just, I'm out a little bit on the limb on that one.

If view to a kill were real, there's a lot of steps that I'm out of the limit on in that particular analysis.

Right, right, okay.

But it is, it's a tough balance.

I do think it's a tough balance, right?

It is.

You know, because

as a conservative, I like, let's just all get into this world where we like say, okay, well, they can't edit any comments or they, or they're going to change section 230 to our liking.

We all realize that in the end of this, the liberals are going to use this against us, right?

Like, they're going to use whatever restrictions they're able to do or whatever punishments toward companies, they're all going to be used against us too.

And they're so much better at using government power against their enemies than we are.

Like, we don't win that battle, I don't think, in the end.

That's not to say that there's nothing to this.

I'm just nervous about it.

There has to be a, if we go full all, you know, Josh Hawley going in and just, you know,

all these restrictions on tech companies from the government, we can all cheer about them at this moment, but how is this going to be used against us in the long term?

I don't think it turns out well.

I'm afraid of it.

It will never turn out well for us.

Okay.

We are incapable of putting together anything.

That is weird, but true.

It's weird, but true.

And you know, it's also, this is also why you don't invite the government into your business, right?

Because it just gets screwed up if you do.

It's like what's going on with the, with the stimulus bills right now.

Well, should people just get $2,000 in free money?

No, under normal circumstances, of course not.

This is not normal.

However,

it's way not normal because the government forced their businesses closed and now they're responsible for that.

The largest class action lawsuit in the history of the world should happen against the government.

I mean, they told us to shut down our businesses

and it wouldn't make any sense because then the business owners would end up paying taxes that paid for what they just did.

So it doesn't make any sense.

It's like you're just paying yourself eventually.

But it is the government's fault.

And how can you be against the government paying for the people they put out of business?

Yeah.

Trying to make up for some of what they did to them.

Correct.

Correct.

So I have no problem.

It's weird.

It is weird.

I have no problem with the stimulus for

people that have lost their job or their business.

Yeah, not for everybody, not just some blanket.

Everybody gets $2,000.

Yeah.

Yay!

And not, and you know what?

Because it should be more than that for people who lost their business.

For the people who lost, yes.

Yeah.

And the people who lost their job, it should be more than that.

Exactly.

I mean, you should replace the income.

I do think, too, we have a language issue with the word stimulus.

It is not a stimulus.

This is a repayment.

Yeah.

Like it is a, you know, it's a, it's a.

They're trying to make you whole again.

Yeah.

Or at least part of it.

The real problem is that they are taking the stimulus packages and they're arguing between $600 and $2,000 while they're spending billions overseas while they are dumping money into

gender studies

in Botswana in the elf frog.

I am worried about that.

Stop that, but that's maybe not as high a priority.

All right.

Thanks a lot.

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We're glad that Alicia has joined us in South Carolina.

Hello, Alicia.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm very good.

I just want to start out by saying I love your show and I am actually a subscriber to The Blaze as well.

Thank you.

Thanks.

My one concern,

my question I wanted to ask for kind of you and Stu

and Pat as well is, you know, with everything that's happening with Parlor, are you guys personally going to kind of live up to what you're asking people to do, which is things like get rid of your Amazon account?

Wait, wait, wait.

We have not asked anybody to do that.

Well, I mean, sorry, the things you kind of espouse on the air, which is, you know, living, like, principles and supporting companies, like you advertise for Patriot Mobile.

Yes.

Because the ad is, you know, Verizon gives to these companies.

Correct.

And the reason I'm asking is because, you know, you guys talk about the NFL and the horrible things that they do and these other companies.

And then the next segment or the next show, we'll hear people like Stu or someone talking about, oh, you know,

the NFL game that I watched or my Alexa or this.

And so it seems like you're promoting, giving money to these companies that are obviously not

in line with the obvious values that I think.

Let me let Stu take on the NFL first and I'd like to take on Amazon and Alexa.

To be clear, it's very consistent.

In fact, an overwhelming belief in capitalism and a principle that I've espoused on the air many, many times.

I boycott boycotts.

I do not participate in them.

I have no interest in that.

The NFL, the only thing that's going to make me stop watching the NFL is, I don't know, a 4-11-in-1 season out of the Philadelphia Eagles, which we saw.

That might make me turn it off.

But I do, I don't, I believe that capitalism actually provides a bridge here for you to do business with companies that you hate.

That is exactly what civilization is.

There's tons of people.

Every restaurant you walk into has a chef making you food that probably would disagree with every single thing you believe in.

You know, capitalism has a way of smoothing those things out.

That doesn't mean you don't fight against these things.

But I do not tell you to cancel your Amazon account.

I do not tell you to stop watching the NFL.

Do what you want if it brings value into your life.

Now, here's where I think you're hearing this, Alicia, is from me that Martin Luther King has said many times he said, if it wasn't for the boycott,

this movement may not have ever happened.

I disagree with that, by the way.

Well, you disagree.

Bring it up with him.

I'm just quoting.

It's not going to be difficult.

Yeah.

But you're right.

He has said that.

Yeah.

So he said that.

Gandhi said that.

However, I want you to know when it comes to things like Amazon, Amazon controls 60%

of the internet, the cloud storage.

Many, many businesses have all of their spying on Amazon.

The rest of it is Google.

And so

when you talk about anything online, I understand, but I also want you to understand when I say Patriot Mobile, I always say, because you do have a choice.

You don't have to spend your money there.

I don't say get rid of your mobile phone.

I don't have a mobile phone, but I don't say get rid of your mobile phone.

I say, you know, it's a reality of life.

You have a choice.

What we have to have is a choice.

I can guarantee you that the voices that you hear and appreciate are either backed up by the spine of Google or Amazon, because that's the reality of it.

When you say, I'm going to use DuckDuckGo, yeah, but the website you're going to is on the spine of Google.

Or Amazon.

Yeah, or Amazon.

Yeah.

I mean, it's basically you have to stop using the internet completely if you want to.

And so, if you want to talk about the,

you know, Apple and

Google and Amazon, understand,

you have to go back to about 1995, maybe 1992, and live your life.

That is a huge deal.

And who knows, maybe someday, maybe soon, I'll be saying I'm going to do that.

I'm not saying I'm going to get rid of the internet in my life today.

Hello, America.

We have a lot to address today and a path forward.

We are not going to play the game that everyone is wanting us to play.

We're not going to play the game that everybody, I think, is playing.

We're charting our own course, and we'll tell you about it.

And we begin the hour with Jason Whitlock.

Jason has written a powerful op-ed, ignoring the concerns of Trump supporters, will destroy America.

Jason Whitlock joins us in 60 seconds.

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Jason Whitlock

Jason is

a sports writer why the heck is he on the Glen Beck program?

Well, because he is a deep thinking man who is has been making a lot of waves in his own life to his own career in many cases for speaking what he believes is the truth.

And he just wrote a new op-ed.

It's up on the blaze.

Ignoring the concerns of Trump supporters will destroy America.

Welcome, Jason Widlock.

Thank you, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

How are you, man?

I'm awesome.

Well,

hold on.

That was a...

I'm actually not.

I'm concerned.

I'm literally what the events going on in America the last week have shaken me.

I got to be honest.

Yeah, you know, I said today that

I hope the audience doesn't interpret.

Somebody who's been listening for 20 years, they might interpret how I sound today as afraid or whatever.

I'm not.

I know

who leads my life.

I know what I need to do.

But it is concerning deeply.

If you're not a little afraid of what's going going on, you're not, you don't understand what's going on.

Yeah, I I mean, for just me personally, my brand, my career has been based off of being an outspoken, independent thinker.

That is clearly under attack.

I've always thought of journalism, other than military service, as the most patriotic thing you could do.

Journalism under attack.

We don't have a free press.

We don't have free speech right now in America, or not the free speech that I'm used to, not what Thomas Jefferson and our founders intended.

This is a scary time.

I don't believe in being afraid.

I believe in being fearless.

I believe in leaning into God.

But wow,

what is going on in America right now,

the attack

and the

groupthink and the big tech takeover of speech

is one of the most disconcerting.

It is the most disconcerting thing that's happened to me in my lifetime.

Well, they have, you know,

Apple and

Amazon and Google, they decided they were going to delete Parlor from their app

stores, but this morning, Amazon has taken them off the internet.

You can't find them anywhere on the internet today.

That's stunning.

Yeah, that is that's just not good.

And

I don't get Parler's crime because

let's say that Amazon and Jeff Bezos and whoever's in his ear have said Parler's to blame for what happened at the Capitol.

It was plotted and there are threats that are being made over parlor.

Is that not true of cell phones?

Do you think the people, whoever did whatever was done at the Capitol, you think they didn't use a cell phone to help execute that?

Do you do you think there haven't been threats made or promised over cell phones?

Are we going after the iPhone?

Are we deplatforming the iPhone?

I don't I just don't.

The logic here and the justification is so flimsy,

just outrageous that

I just, I'm at a loss.

But Glenn, I have, and this isn't to beat my chest, but four or five years ago, I started talking about, hey, man,

Silicon Valley, Northern California, has way too much power in America and is now in control of the media.

And this is not a good thing.

The liberal from New York is completely different than the liberal from Northern California.

And to have this concentration of power in Northern California, where that's a very revolutionary, disruptive mindset in Northern California.

It is,

again, I don't want to paint with too broad of a brush, but they just don't believe in traditional American values.

And

I just, we've turned over this power, and I just never understood why our lawmakers and people, well, I do understand.

They were all getting checks and money, and big tech has bought off everybody.

And now they need each other.

Now one needs the protection of the other.

Yeah, yeah.

It's

I.

So let me talk a little bit about what you wrote in your op-ed piece.

You say there are two Americas.

There's two American realities.

Can you go into that a bit?

Yeah, there's a reality for the elites, progressive elites, who live in a fantasy world of disreality, unreality,

false narratives.

And then there are those of us

that live in reality.

And I'm watching people, I mean, again, when they twisted this capital thing into a racial incident, that's an example of like the progressive elites in Hollywood, in the sports world, in politics,

they live in a world where

that was some sort of racial incident that happened last Wednesday.

Those of us that live in the real world

And in reality are like, no, that's an example of what happens when you tell 74 million people they're unworthy of living here in this country, they have no rights, they're all racist, they're Nazis.

When you tell 74 million people that

for four straight years and you're the worst people on the planet, you don't have a voice here in America, and the one voice you have, which was a powerful voice, the president, we are silencing and removing from office, and now we're coming for you, you 74 million people, anybody that supported Trump.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

And so you can't demonize 74 million people.

You can't

dismiss every one of their complaints with, oh, you're racist, oh, you're sexist, oh, you're a Nazi.

That is unfair.

It will not stand.

I'm not trying to defend the people that stormed the...

No, no, no.

I said last week, there are really important reasons why this happened.

There are no excuses.

There are important reasons.

And until the left and the media understands their role in it, it's not that you just said, you're bad people, you're racist, you have no place here, and we're coming after you.

They also at the same time have done everything in their power to destroy their own credibility.

The media and the government has lied, has twisted, has done everything,

everything

that

destroys any kind of honest give and take, any kind of

trust that you've had.

So when you don't trust them at all, and you say, hey, wait a minute, I think there might be a problem.

And then on top of it, then you say, I'm shutting everything down, shut up, sit down.

This is, of course, they're surrounded.

The left surrounds themselves with behavioral scientists.

They know exactly what caused this.

They know exactly what happened.

Glenn, I hate to sound this naive or this uninformed, but yesterday, I had to ask someone what Q Anon was.

I keep hearing it talked about in the media, but I didn't understand it.

And then someone explained it to me.

It was actually Gaston.

He explained it to me.

And I said, hey,

the reason why something like QA9 can grow in popularity and take root is because of the failure of the media.

If the media did its job,

there would be far less conspiracy theories.

Yes.

Yes.

When you have Jeffrey Epstein, And all of the records and all of the stuff that he had, all of the very powerful people he was involved in, go to jail.

He's killed under unusual circumstances.

And then it just goes away.

Of course, conspiracies are going to come out of this.

Of course.

Because no one is saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

That shouldn't have happened.

That never happens.

And we're still going to pursue exactly what did happen and who was involved.

But they don't.

And so conspiracies grow out of that.

When you sit on powerful television platforms and media outlets and say that Russia colluded and our Trump colluded with Russia and they undermined the election and it was all bogus BS.

But they did that for years.

People built television audiences off of that for years.

And then boom, it goes away.

But your conspiracy theory, which has been proven is bogus, just goes away.

There's no repercussions from it.

There's no deplatforming of people because of it.

But on the other side,

your theories are all evil.

You must be destroyed.

We must shut you down.

The hypocrisy is too easy to spot for rational people living in reality not to react and say, hey man, this is just unfair.

This isn't America.

We're the free speech country.

That's one of our founding principles, and we're destroying it in a power, political power grab.

And the free speech that is guaranteed is the free speech to question and petition your government for answers.

Let me give you another one.

You know about the solar winds hack that happened, what was it, a month ago, where the government was hacked into, and it looks like it was Russia that did this big hack.

Do you remember this?

Vaguely.

Okay.

Well, it was everywhere for about a day.

Everywhere.

It's a really big story.

Well, guess what was released at 2 o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday,

last Wednesday?

quote, the U.S.

Justice Department has released information now that they are the latest federal agency to say that it was breached by hackers in the Russia-linked cyber attack that ripped through the government agencies.

So a month later,

They come out and say 3% of the Justice Department's Microsoft email accounts were potentially accessed in the attack.

It happened on December 24th.

It has eliminated the identified method by which the actor was assessing Microsoft email accounts.

They were looking at and going through email accounts that contain sensitive information about investigations and national security-related issues.

Why didn't you say this when everybody else was

announcing that they were attacked?

They were attacked and hacked in the same day and the same times as all of the other departments that already released this.

Why would you release this on the day when you know the news is all going to be about what?

The electors actually being verified by the Congress and then an extra gift of this.

That's the time and day they release this?

This is the kind of stuff that leads to conspiracy theories.

Why didn't you release it before?

Why then?

And Glenn, for

the

less sophisticated, the people that don't track the news as closely as you do or others do.

But the Hunter Biden story.

Yes.

Yes.

People can understand that.

A baby can understand, like, wow.

That makes no sense.

Anything about Trump, it's covered to the nth degree.

Here's Hunter and potentially President-elect Joe Biden compromised

and no coverage of it until after the election.

Right.

And it's still going to not really get coverage or an investigation, is my guess.

Is my guess.

We have Jason Whitlock with us.

We're going to talk to him a little more.

Hang on for one minute.

Let me take a 60-second break and then back in.

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Now,

Jason, I am going to sound like an idiot to you because I don't follow sports and Outkick and everything else.

But I read a story that you are leaving Outkick.

Didn't you just join Outkick?

Yes.

Listen, I'm not,

I don't want to

go into too much detail.

But look, I'm just someone that

you got to deal honestly with, and

you got to do what you say you're going to do.

You know,

I'm a rational person, but

I wasn't dealt with in an honest fashion.

And so

I got to move on.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that, but you are now carving out your own career path.

And because you've been at ESPN and you really helped ESPN,

and then they looked at you and are like, yeah, we don't agree with you politically, so beat it.

You are,

I assume, you're building something that is

as bulletproof as possible in today's world.

Today and this weekend must have scared you a little bit.

Yeah, certainly.

But

again, as I said in the previous segment, I've always believed journalism, other than the military, is the most patriotic thing you could do.

And so

and even in the sports lane that I have been in, if people have followed my work, I've always included themes that were larger than sports and tried to explain America to sports fans.

And so I want to continue down that path.

I believe journalism is my contribution to this country and trying to wake people up and give them the facts and

from my point of view.

and give them the information so that they can make better decisions.

We have a very uninformed public right now because the mainstream media has completely failed them.

That's why there's so much confusion and chaos.

That's why, again, when you just talk about this false reality that people live in, LeBron James and other influencers that are currying favor with China keep explaining to people, oh my God, if that were black people that had stormed the Capitol, what would have happened?

They would have all been slaughtered.

And I'm like, hey man, have you not watched what went on this entire summer with Black Lives Matter and Antifa burning buildings, murders of police officers?

As you said in your Blaze editorial, there are two Americas with two separate realities.

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We're glad you're here.

I want to talk to you today about

our

really

important responsibility as a group of friends that have met for 20 plus years.

I have always felt that this audience

was destined to

do something glorious and great,

and that doesn't include violence.

And I don't need to preach to you nonviolence, And I'm not going to preach to anybody.

I just

want you to know, if you've been listening for a long time, that these are the days now that I've been warning against.

These are the days when I said you're going to have to have your credibility.

You're going to have to know what is true and what is not.

You are going to

need to be the leader in your community.

And when you see people start heading for trouble, you are going to be the one that says, no, don't go that way, go this way, don't go that way, there's trouble there.

That is your role, and

you are listening to this broadcast, I believe, for a reason.

And we have an awful lot of work to do, an awful lot of work to do.

And you need to understand what's happened this

weekend,

and since last Wednesday, has been breathtaking, breathtaking.

We are going to have one of the head guys from Parlor on in a few minutes.

You can't find them online now because Amazon has removed them from the internet.

We

are,

I can't tell you how many hosts

I talked to over the weekend that were writing me and calling me and saying, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn Glenn Glenn Glenn Glenn,

we've all got to come together.

We've all got to meet.

I'm like,

I know.

I know.

And the Blaze is far ahead of the game, far ahead of the game.

But it's impossible to do what, you know, they said, well,

you don't have a voice in mainstream media.

So go someplace else.

So we did.

And we all built our own platforms.

And now they're like, yeah, well, you can't be be on the internet.

Wait, what?

Well, you just have to what?

Build our own platform,

build our own

processing, build our own banking system,

our own credit cards,

our own credit card processing, the backbone, the cloud, the internet.

We have to lay our own fiber.

That's the problem.

That's the problem.

So

we really need to do our work right now because we do need our own banking and financial systems, our own credit card processing systems, more than likely our own credit card brands, because Visa and Amex and all, they will start canceling the accounts of outspoken Trump supporters or people that they all of a sudden deem or the left deems as a problem.

And it will trickle down to gun owners.

They've already done this

will it trickle down to those who want to homeschool their kids will it trickle down to those who say i'm not wearing a mask or i'm not closing my business yes it will

so we need it may i suggest and i'm talking to myself as well uh you learn shortwave Because

I'll do the show on shortwave if I have to.

We have to have our own platforms to publish, to share, conduct academic research because the left will just look to silence any scientists, any professors, anybody with history, any researchers.

It doesn't matter how qualified they are.

They will block them from publishing any research or studies that contradict the official narrative.

There are two Americas today.

We need our own schools that are free and independent.

I drove by here in Texas.

We have the ISDs, the independent school districts.

And yeah, they're independent of each other, but are they independent?

Are they truly independent from the federal government?

Are they truly independent from the teachers' unions?

Are they really independent?

We need schools that are free and independent of any official group think influence.

We need

fact and reason-based education and teach

how to think, not what to think.

We need our own textbooks and history books and

the digital bonfires are already burning.

If you have books that you like and they're on Kindle, you better buy a hard copy of them.

I just got a book over at the museum because we're now collecting books that are show, that, that are changing, changing.

And I've told you before that I've read Up With Slavery, the original, and then I read one that came out just a few years ago, and the preface said

about 10 years ago, five years ago, that we're not sure, scholars now argue, we're not sure if he was actually a slave or if any of this happened.

And I remember thinking, what?

Why?

What are you talking about?

This is Booker T.

Washington.

We just got a brand new copy where the foreword says, this is a work of fiction.

It's not a work of fiction.

And things are going to be changed online.

And you need to own the actual documents.

You need to print the documents.

You need to buy the actual hardcover book.

I wish this was a joke or hyperbole, but it is not.

I wish I was overstating or exaggerating,

but it is not.

10 years ago, I told you all I kept hearing was clay pots, clay pots.

And I'm like, what the heck does that even mean?

What do you mean, clay pots?

Supposed to like roll up some scrolls and put them in the middle of the desert?

What are you talking about, clay pots?

It was about preserving our history.

And so

we have

gathered

the largest private collection of pre-1830 documents in all of America.

The only ones that are bigger are the National Archives and the Library of Congress.

We have it, and we have just spent a year building

a shelter for it that can withstand anything,

anything that we're prepared for.

We also have just purchased, and we don't really have the money, but God will provide, we have just purchased the largest collection of

pre-1700 American history documents and artifacts.

The Smithsonian wanted this.

Everyone wanted this.

The guy who sold it to us, sold it to us for a comparable song because he wanted it in private hands.

He knows us.

He knows what we want to do with it.

It completely disproves the 1619 project.

We have poured our time, our money, and our energy into doing these things.

If you can help us, that's great.

Go to mercury1.org.

But what is it that you're supposed to do?

For your family, for your home?

Ask yourself this question: where's your money right now?

Do you think Jamie Dimon, the CEO of Chase Bank, is going to refuse requests to freeze your account if the left-aligned DOJ on a witch hunt requests it?

Now, I'm not saying take your money out of the bank,

but I'm asking you, do you think that that's not a reasonable guess?

Did you know that after the financial crash, the Department of Homeland Security now can can require

a Department of Homeland Security agent to be in the room while you open your safety deposit box.

Why?

Because if you have something there that is deemed

dangerous or deemed

you're a hoarder,

they can confiscate it.

Did you know that?

The world has changed.

You know, it's interesting that Wonder Woman was released and nobody put together 1984.

1984.

That's two years past 19...

No, it is.

George Orwell's 1984.

1984.

Here it is in the real world.

You probably haven't read it since high school, but did you know that 1984 is the number one best-selling book on Amazon.com today?

It's the number one best-seller.

Let me give you a couple of others.

On Tyranny, which is an anti-Trump book basically saying that he's a Nazi, is number three.

Animal Farm, which has been out since what, the 1940s?

30s, 50s, somewhere in that?

Animal Farm, 24th Fahrenheit, 451,

number 55.

And again, 1984 is number one.

Why?

Because

people

feel it.

Those who wish to silence objective, rational, fact-based speech are playing now for keeps.

Economic warfare phase has now been launched in earnest, and it is almost entirely one-sided.

I believe in individual liberty.

I believe in the outdated concepts such as the right to be a jerk or disagree from the crowd.

And it's incumbent upon each of us to stand with honor.

to preserve those freedoms not just for ourselves, but but for the people we may vehemently disagree with

and our children.

I can't tell you how this ends,

because only you will determine that.

But I can tell you how it begins and what is coming.

It's here,

and they're going to try to to break us.

It is my

duty,

but I look at it more as my honor

to go through this with you together.

You are not alone.

Do not go with those who are angry.

I know you're angry.

I am beside myself on the hypocrisy.

I don't know how this works out, but I'm telling you now, we must be peacemakers.

And for those who are on the left and are not woke, but awake, you must join us.

You must join us.

We are not who you've been led to believe we are.

Back in a minute.

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Let me go to Scott in South Carolina.

Hello, Scott.

You're on the Glen Beck program.

Hey, thank you for taking my call, Glenn.

I appreciate it.

Sure.

I've been listening to you since around 2002, back when you had your intro music that sounded like a clock in the beginning.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

That was a really great theme song, by the way.

I really loved it.

Kind of rock and roll.

Yeah, thanks.

And I just wanted to tell you, I've been listening.

I've never called before, but in the last week or so, you sounded kind of down, depressed and uh understandably so and um

by myself went through some anger things you know

but i prayed and um

i was released um from the anger

and um i just i just want to let you know that you've got a lot of people out here that that listen and um we're very grateful and you've done some things over the years the helping the christians over in the Middle East and helping the flood and the tornado victims and all of these wonderful things and I just wanted to say thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Scott, that means an awful lot to me today.

And I know how many people are listening and I know how many people

pray for us and all of it.

And I'm really not down.

I'm angry.

I am angry.

But I have been praying a lot.

I have, you know, I started my day just listening to

Christian music and just really trying to focus on God.

And

my,

my, don't, don't,

don't confuse the way I might sound for being down.

It is an awesome responsibility to talk to this many people in today's world.

And I want to make sure I do the right thing by them and by God.

Stu just said,

you know, we were joking back and forth, hey, I'm so glad 2020's over, huh?

Yeah, yeah.

I told you, 2021, don't hope for it to come faster.

It's going to be worse.

He just said to me, Glenn, it's only been a week since we've been back from vacation, from the holiday.

And I said, no, no, no, no, no.

no it's been two weeks no

only one week we've only had five broadcasts this is our sixth this is our sixth broadcast of

it seems like a hundred years

that's right because

last

Tuesday was when we were talking about Georgia I haven't even thought about Georgia

Wednesday

those days don't come back

Okay, we're going to talk to you also to one of the main guys at Parlor that is now offline.

We'll talk to him and you in 60 seconds.

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It's a girl from Parlor?

Were all the men not available?

They have girls running things?

Conservatives don't let women have jobs.

What the hell?

Kind of

that's why this company was shut down.

Who knew they had women in charge?

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But there are things that we can do that will

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And one of the things that we have to do, we had somebody call earlier today and say, you're going to, are you going to get rid of everything Amazon for what they did?

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Let me go to David in North Carolina.

Hello, David.

You're on the Glenn Beck program.

How are we doing, Glenn Beck?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm a little frustrated and concerned, which I'm sure you are too.

And I've been listening to your show religiously for a year.

Thank you.

And I can't.

I mean, I like you better than I do, Russ Limbaugh.

That means anything to you.

Thank you.

But

I do slightly disagree with what a lot you and Rush and Sean Hannity are saying about last Wednesday's events.

What are we saying about the event that you disagree with?

That, first of all, it was violent.

I don't really see the level of violence that is being described.

Okay.

First off, I mean, but I'm not sure.

Okay, well, so hey, wait, let's take this.

hang on let's take this piece by piece i don't think the event was violent the event was fine i don't think the march to the capital was violent the march to the capital was fine i don't think the majority of people that were even around outside of the capitol were aware of what was going on inside

but smashing windows breaking barricades, going into offices,

defiling our nation's capital, and going in with, you know, handcuffs.

And, and, uh, I mean, they were going in to grab Mike Pence and make him pay.

At least probably, what, five of the people were?

I think a very, very small number in that crowd were violent.

The rest of the people that didn't engage in any of those activities, I don't think they even knew what was going on, most of them.

Do we still disagree?

I can agree on that okay my point is this

isn't that building once it wasn't it once called the people's house because our representatives are there um no the people's house is actually the white house but people have called the capitol the people's house as well uh congress is the people's house but there are rules and there always have been rules

and i understand rules i'm just saying that I think that since they work for us, we should be able to be in the building, maybe not in that large a number, but to supervise their work.

I mean, I work a job, and my supervisor can show up anytime he wants to and supervise my work.

I agree with you 100%.

And you can go to the Capitol and you can see what they're doing.

You can watch.

You can go to the gallery.

You can go make an appointment and talk to people in Congress.

You can do that.

You can go as a group.

You just can't storm the Capitol by breaking windows and, you know, all of that.

Well, and I think that needs to be done more regularly because, I mean, obviously, we're not in agreeance with the work they're doing, obviously.

Yes.

So you do need to have a presence and

the people who usually live in the East Coast should make their presence

heard.

I personally am for a different idea.

I believe that the Capitol is an outdated idea.

You know, it was built really for about three months out of the year when they they were supposed to come together.

With technology and blockchain and everything else, they can cast their votes online.

It would make lobbying much more difficult for the lobbyists to do because they'd have to travel.

If you keep the congressmen and the senators in their home areas, in their districts, it makes it a lot easier for you to go.

And also, they don't lose touch.

with the people because they're still living in that community.

There's no reason we we send these guys for security reasons.

There's no reason to put all of them in one place all the time.

They should spend almost all of their time in their home district with access by the people.

And the people should go make appointments and go peacefully and talk to each of them.

That's to me the real solution here.

It makes no sense to have everybody flying in, especially with security concerns, into Washington, D.C.

I agree with that as well.

And me personally, I think that lobbying should be illegal under RICO statutes.

I mean, I think the political party system should be illegal under the RICO statutes.

But that's a different conversation for a different day.

But my point is this.

I've heard the saying that we can affect change either through the ballot box or through the ammo box.

And I don't want it.

I mean, I'm ex-military.

I'm a former correctional officer.

I have experience with violence.

Trust me, I do.

And I don't want to go that route if there's an alternative.

But when you take away the alternative,

I mean, well, I don't think we have taken away the alternative

yet

because I do believe the answer lies at home.

The answer lies in changing your community and changing your state and

making sure that your state does not engage in the kind kind of

ballot mailouts.

I mean, it was, the excuse was, it's because of the COVID thing.

Okay,

it shouldn't have happened the way it did.

It should have been fought in the courts by the right, but they were busy paying attention to something else.

We know what the left had planned because the

Transition Integrity Project was out there.

They expected expected to lose and they expected to storm the Capitol and hold the right

and to hold the United States government hostage until they got a few things like three states, et cetera, et cetera.

So we know all of these things.

What we need to do is make sure that each one of our states are taken care of to the point to where the legislature locks down the voting procedures and we don't have any of this anymore.

And that's going to be up to the people to do it.

I also believe that the answer does not lie in Washington.

The problems lie in Washington.

So the states that you live in, you should urge them to become sanctuary states.

that we are a sanctuary for the Bill of Rights.

And anything that violates the Bill of Rights, this state won't do.

You want to take away guns.

We will not participate.

Because of the Second Amendment, you want to shut down free speech?

We will not participate.

And we need to get our states.

Now, there may only be half that do it.

But half is better than what we have now.

There must be places that people can live and be free and disagree with each other.

That's America.

A violent America, an America that shuts down one side or the other, is not America.

We all must stand for the Bill of Rights.

Thank you so much for your phone call.

I appreciate it.

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All right.

Let me go to Jeff in Texas.

Hello, Jeff.

Hey, Glenn.

Good afternoon.

So I'm a software engineer, and I thought I could give you guys a little bit better perspective, especially from a high level on this topic of Twitter and parlor cancellations.

And one thing I want to make clear, working in this literally every day of my life,

and I'm in my mid-30s at this point, so, you know,

about 10, 12 years at this point,

there's no way that this was done overnight.

I work for a top 20 software company where greater than 90% of the Forbes top 500 use us.

And working with them on a daily basis, I can without any doubt tell you that most companies don't have a very successful rollout plan for new algorithms, new programs, and everything like that.

So this not only had to be planned well ahead of time, it also had to be tested, developed.

Like those kinds of things don't happen overnight.

So that tells you that we had...

Wait, wait, wait.

What do you mean?

I mean, you can, can't you just delete

somebody from your cloud and your backbone?

So yes and no, but here's, let's use Twitter for the example.

We're seeing people all over saying, I'm losing tens of thousands of subscribers per hour.

Yeah.

And that's just happening.

There had to be an algorithm built and there had to be another program in Twitter built to go through and pinpoint the people.

There are there is there is and

we we broke this we broke this news on my program maybe about two months ago where they where Facebook and Google are applying critical race theory and they're they're applying it to their hate speech filter.

And it it is not only going for those who make the comment, but then all of those who have, quote, been infected by that comment.

And

it's already up and running, has been for a while.

And we warned this is exactly the kind of stuff that is going to happen.

Yep.

And I want to go on to say that

This has been a very successful rollout for them, I would say, of whatever this algorithm would be.

Because, you know, you see, you know, things, I remember when YouTube, like 10 years ago, changed their like and dislike from a star rating system to a thumbs up and thumbs down, and you never heard the end of it for like a year.

Something small like that happened, and people just outraged.

This is happening, and some people aren't even noticing it.

And it's a very successful

rollout for them.

And I want to add something else really quick.

This is a very high-level overview, but you talked about the SolarWinds hack.

And I don't know, no offense to you or anyone else that's listening, I don't know that people grasp how the SolarWinds hack can be really used.

And I think it has a much bigger long-term effect.

SolarWinds is a monitoring program.

If you had a data center, Glenn, where you was hosting Blaze TV, you might install SolarWinds so you can make sure all 100 of your servers are online and that the programs you want running are running on them.

And you mentioned earlier something about how 3% of the emails might be targeted because of this.

Well, it's easy because once you get into SolarWinds, you get a database of the computers you have.

and the applications that run on them.

And I might know that you're using a four-year-old version of an email server that's vulnerable to this specific type of attack.

So once I get into SolarWinds, I can look at a whole database of all the technology that you own,

and then I can start targeting that on top of any potential security implications that you could have, because you're going to know what ports are open.

You're going to know what network traffic is allowed and disallowed.

You're going to know a lot of things about your infrastructure, which has a much more long-term impact than just, quote, SolarWinds is hacked.

SolarWinds by itself doesn't doesn't provide a whole lot of information to anybody.

But once you get that, you can really wreak havoc on potentially what could happen down the line.

And I think you're going to see a lot of targeted attacks in the near future for us and our country because of that.

And these emails that you reported on

last week, the government likes to sweep stuff like that under the rug and release it at Friday, late Friday afternoon when nobody will talk about it and all that good stuff.

So I think that's something we're as people, as citizens, are going to have to be more informed about moving forward.

And

I hope

and I pray,

and one good thing about this, this is the good news, is the big man upstairs is in control, right?

That's the good news.

Thankful for that.

But I hope and pray that people start seeing.

And like you said, it's a big burden.

I feel like that, you know, I've been sitting down on this for a long time, and I feel like every day I'm having to stand up and do a little bit more

in order to fight back.

And that's the burden, really, is the fact that we've been comfortable in our own skin for too long.

Yep.

And I'm not going to be able to do that.

But you know,

the good thing is people are waking up.

They are indeed waking up.

And we just have to make sure everybody's hearts stay soft.

How much time do I have?

30 seconds.

Okay, we're going to have to come back.

We also

have one of the executives at Parlor going to be joining us here in just a minute.

Tell us what happened today.

Right before we went on the air, we found out that Amazon has just erased Parlor.

You can't find them.

It's a little frightening.

More on that coming up in just a second.

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Amy Peekoff is the chief policy officer at the social media platform Parlor,

which you're going to have a hard time finding today because Amazon has removed them.

Amy is,

she has her B.S.

in math applied science, her JD at UCLA.

She served as an editor on the UCLA Law Review.

After she got her law degree, she went to USC where she earned her Ph.D.

in philosophy.

She has taught at Southwestern Law School, Chapman University School of Law, and the United States Air Force Academy, also the University of North Carolina and University of Texas.

So she really hasn't done a lot with her life, but we're going to cut her some slack today.

Amy, welcome to the program.

Thanks, Glenn, for having me on.

It'd be better if it was under good circumstances, right?

So this is terrifying, what is going on.

And I think you guys are only the first.

You're not the last.

Tell me what happened, what's been going on,

where this whole thing stands.

You know, so basically, let me make one thing clear, which is that everybody agrees that all of this violence-inciting content, or if people are organizing to have an insurrection, et cetera, that this content is wrong and doesn't belong.

Correct.

But that content has been everywhere in the last weeks.

And this is a very extraordinary time that we're living in.

If I may say, Amy, it's not only everywhere.

On the left, it is still online at Twitter.

Still online.

Yes.

Yes.

And so in this context, we feel that, of course, we are being treated unfairly.

We were given no notice.

On Friday, we were told first by Apple and then by Amazon that if we didn't meet their expectations as to the handling of this huge flood of content, then they were just going to drop us completely.

And we have a philosophical model at Parlor that we both were nonpartisan, that we believe in freedom of expression, but at the same time we want to respect privacy of users.

So that, you know, in the spirit of Section 230,

the people who post the content are the ones who are responsible for the content.

We are responsible for the content so long as we're taking reasonable steps once we become aware of the content.

And what's happening in the market, because you have the established players of Facebook and Twitter using these algorithms to scan content constantly, 24-7, whether you have any particularized suspicion about a particular user or not, your content is scanned.

That's becoming the standard of what's reasonable on the Internet.

And we say no, we think that's an Orwellian standard and that we should go back to the model of the public square where if you become aware that somebody is engaging in criminal activity, you take the appropriate action, which would be banning or

reporting to law enforcement or both, right?

And humans are actually involved.

Let me ask you, first of all, Apple did this.

Amazon did this.

They kind of all dogpiled on you.

Is this a violation of any antitrust laws?

You know, that is unclear, and I'm not an antitrust law expert about this, so I'm going to leave that.

You know, I am an academic lawyer, and I did a lot of research into the theoretical foundations of privacy, and I have a whole theory about that.

And that's why I'm at Parlor, right?

Because I share their affinity for privacy and for trying to implement it on the Internet and prevent 1984 from becoming reality, right?

No.

So vice is...

That we're being pressured, right?

We're pressured to conform to the exact same standards of content moderation and also data mining and

algorithm scanning that our competitors use at these entrenched big social media are using.

So they told us that

if we would just

build our own platform, that'd be fine.

Now it's not build your own platform.

It is build your own platform, create your own cloud, lay your own fiber.

I mean,

we're not welcome on anything,

anything.

We're going to have to have our own banks, credit cards, and processing for everything.

It's not reasonable.

No, exactly.

It's not reasonable.

And the people who have been the biggest detractors and the ones who are really trying to take us down, I think they need to ask themselves the question.

Do they want to live in the world in which every single piece of content that you put on the Internet is scanned by some algorithm for so-called wrong think 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Now, mind you, I agree that this activity is illegal, but once you introduce scanning,

you use that scanning for anything.

The door is open.

And I think that you should not be surveilled.

in a free country unless there is some particularized suspicion about you.

That's the spirit of the Fourth Amendment.

That's what we've been trying to do at Parlor.

All right.

So

you agree with the speech that is plotting and planning violence, that that should be moderated and removed.

You just believe it.

Of course, of course.

It's the methodology that I disagree with.

I mean, nobody, and you know, at Parlor, our goal has been to provide this nonpartisan town square for productive discussions on the important issues of the day.

And if anything stops productive discussions because it stops the thinking behind them, it is force or threat the force.

So, of course, we disagree with that content being on our platform.

We don't want it there.

And what all of us, every platform, even the ones with the algorithms, have been struggling with is this huge flood of content in this extraordinary time.

You know, on Twitter, we had Hang Mike Pence trending.

I think on Saturday.

On Saturday, that was going on.

And they have the algorithm, but it was fine for them.

We have a report from Vice today

that

Parlor has been hacked into, and 70 terabytes of information, including our driver's license, everything,

has fallen into the hands of hackers.

Is that true?

Well, first of all, I know that it's been the policy of Parlor not to actually retain the driver's license, that once a verification process is done, that that is destroyed, the scan of it is destroyed.

So,

you know, yes, we did collect it, but we destroy it.

So, I don't think that that would be true.

I don't know about any hacking.

It has not been confirmed at all by our data, I mean, our tech team.

So, yeah, I mean, we've had false accusations of hacks in the past.

Okay.

I haven't heard anything that confirms this.

Where does this stand?

You're offline now.

Have you had, have you, has anyone reached out with an offer to host parlor?

So many people, so many people, right?

But the thing you also have to understand is it's been this cancel culture

rush.

As soon as Apple did it, then Amazon sent theirs.

And then after other people got the word of it, everybody just suddenly dropped service.

And like you said earlier, and I'm not a tech person per se, but there's different pieces of the puzzle.

And so we've had a number of different people who have come in and said, well, we've got server and cloud, and then there's other people.

And so we're trying to put the pieces back together because it's a multi-part structure that we need to rebuild.

Let me ask you this question because

you got your PhD in philosophy, right?

Yeah, I mean, I focused on the right to privacy.

So I have a whole theory about the proper legal protection of privacy.

Let me just ask you

this question.

You know, I said last week there's no excuse for the violence that happened inside the Capitol.

No excuse.

But there are many reasons why it happened.

And one of them is suppressing thought, suppressing

people's questions.

It forces people underground into private groups.

They can become radicalized easily.

It's very dangerous.

Let me ask you, isn't all of this censorship and all of the things to silence people, isn't that a big part of the problem?

Isn't big tech actually making this much worse?

Are you with me?

Do we still have her?

Did they get to her?

They're even censoring her on her phone calls.

On her phone calls.

Wow.

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This goes deep.

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All right.

We were cut off.

We lost our connection with Amy Peekoff.

Amy is

with Parlor, which is gone today.

Amy, how long before

you are back up for business?

I can't say exactly.

We are scrambling right now as we speak.

And I guess being cut off was a little bit fortuitous because I got a message from our colleagues that

out in the world of the hacker world, there is a reputable hacker who says that the allegations about Parlor's data having been hacked are actually false.

So we've had this happen before where people said there was a hack.

So that's the latest that I've heard.

Are you going to,

is there anybody in Congress or the Senate that is standing up for you?

Is there, do you have any allies?

Yeah, sure.

They're all preoccupied today, right?

They're all preoccupied over there today.

Yeah.

Let me just ask you the question that I asked you before we lost you.

Isn't the silencing of voices a big part of the problem and the frustration that many Americans feel right now?

You know, definitely.

There are people who feel that if they don't have any meaningful way of persuasion that their options are few, right?

And so that is, I think, the frustration that you see out there.

You know, on Friday, when Twitter banned the president, a lot of people were flooding over to Parlor.

So if you think about the fact that we have been blamed for not supposedly, you know, moderating to the extent of Twitter, although that's debatable because, again, the content's all over their site as well, you know, imagine that on Friday, where we had not expected this huge rush, this huge rush comes over, and it's precisely at that moment that we're told, get it under control in 24 hours or 48 hours, or you're gone.

It's exactly that time.

And see if we've been treated fairly by our suppliers.

I don't believe we have been.

Amy, we are in a mess, and we wish you all the best.

And if there's anything we can do, and please stay in touch with us.

You know,

as long as everybody

understands freedom of speech with the common sense you can't plot the overthrow of the United States.

If everybody understands it.

Exactly.

Well we're we are all on the same page.

We are going to continue to do everything that we can to save civil discourse, free and open discourse on the Internet while respecting privacy.

I promise we're on it.

What about the idea of these big tech companies being private companies so they have a right to violate freedom of speech?

Certainly they have a right to do it.

Okay.

But right now what we have is we have a few players who are very established, who are dictating the terms.

And in fact, Mark Zuckerberg was, you know, Facebook was taking out ads in the New York Times recently calling for improved Internet regulation.

And what that means is that he would like to see regulations that mandate the sort of content moderation standards that Facebook uses.

If they want to make that decision for themselves, that's fine.

But they're even lobbying to have it put into law.

Amy, good luck.

Chief Policy Officer at Parlor.

Again, we stand behind freedom of speech and we will help you any way we can, Amy.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

You bet.

All right.

Let me go to

Gail in Kentucky.

Hello, Gail.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm great.

How are you?

We're good because of you.

I am calling to say thank you, thank you, thank you.

Because of you, Glenn, we are as prepared as we can be for what's coming.

We have listened to you since Fox News Days, and I remember the times you said these things were coming, and I can still see the look on Bill O'Reilly's face as he sort of looked down his nose as you said.

And I smile to myself when I hear him

repeating exactly the things that you said, and it's his word now.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I do.

I'm glad.

Go ahead.

I was just going to say, I'm glad anybody is awake.

I'm just glad anybody is awake.

And you have awakened many of us, Glenn.

Thank you very much.

You know, this is your calling.

Many times, we've heard you say, why do you do this?

It's because it's what you do.

And nobody else but you can do it.

You bring peace.

You bring calm to people like us.

And there's many, many of us that have, because of you and the things that you have said through all these years, have we have gotten prepared, and we are.

We're as prepared as we're going to be.

Gail, you're making me uncomfortable now.

I'm not good at taking compliments like this.

I so appreciate your phone call.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for what you have said.

There is still a lot of work ahead of us and a lot of things that we have to do to prepare.

We are going to be the ones that are the happy warriors and the people that will

take in the refugees and heal.

That should be our goal.

We'll see you tomorrow.

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