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This is the Glenn Beck Program.

2020,

a year unlike any other.

And there's this notion out there that

it just snuck up on us.

We never saw it coming.

Except the stage was set for this year

long ago.

in our institutions, in our culture, in our homes,

and in the hearts and minds of the people.

I'm Steve Dace, filling in today for Glenn Beck, and I will explain in a moment.

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Back here on the Glenn Beck program.

My name is Steve Dace, filling in for Glenn today and Midwestern Winter Storm permitting also tomorrow.

Many of you have had a chance to hear me be a guest on Glenn's show in the past.

I do the show on Blaze TV right after Glenn.

from noon to 2 Eastern on Blaze TV, radio, and podcast.

I have my full crew here with me this morning as well.

My co-host, Todd Erzin, as well as our co-host and producer, Aaron McIntyre.

Merry Christmas.

Happy New Year to you guys.

Haven't seen you guys in about a week or so.

Did you guys all have a good holiday?

It was a great Christmas.

It was absolutely good.

Indeed, we did.

You guys got out without some masks and terrorized some of the local populace, is my understanding, correct?

Did my best, was scolded by a teenager who wouldn't sell me popcorn.

Aaron, yesterday, or no, last week, right before Christmas, you said you went to three different stores, Matt.

I was four different stores, including a drugstore.

And apparently, I have a face that says, don't talk to me.

And we dig that about you, actually.

Yes, that is true.

All right.

So over the course of today's program, if we say anything remotely insightful that

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That is like the new free speech.

I guess we'll call it the free speech alternative to Facebook, right?

Yep.

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This is like the most I have talked

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Yeah.

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So there's lots of different ways that you can engage with us via social media here on the show.

And then after the program, because I'm hoping by the time we're done here today, we have said a few things that you find insightful that you want to take with you and you want to share with you

and with others around you.

This is the time of year, if we were having a normal year,

that we'd be doing a lot of recaps.

The year that was,

top 10 political stories, news stories.

Except for a lot of us, the year ended

on

March 11th.

For a lot of us, the America that we took for granted all of our lives,

that ended on March 11th.

And it blindsided a lot of us.

But if we look back at the history that we have lived through in this last generation,

as we come to the end of 2020 and there are so many pie-in-the-sky

idealistic notions, you know, we're just going to put this year to bed.

Right?

We just can't wait to get to 2021.

Because we're better than this, Steve.

Yes, because we're better than this.

Yes.

And

if you don't learn from this year,

you will not put it to bed in 2021.

Instead,

it will,

I guess we'll go with the term mutate

into a new strain of branch Cavitean tyranny.

I see what you did there, Lord Fauci.

See what I did there?

Yes.

Think about the fact that this year we had a president impeached.

It's like that didn't happen.

Like, we don't even remember it.

I mean, like, it didn't matter.

We had a presidential impeachment proceeding for only the third time in American history.

And

it was like, whatevs.

The U.S.

government verified

that there's unexplained phenomena

in the skies,

technology that it heretofore was unaware existed on this earth,

and it showed us video.

And we were kind of like,

peace out.

Is the election over yet?

You know, for being told there was no voter fraud, I keep seeing more and more stories.

Now, the Pennsylvania Republican Party is claiming, what is it, 200,000 more people voted?

Then we're registered to do so.

Apparently, you have to, here's, let me just boil down all of the various tentacles of the debate about voter fraud into one statement for you.

To believe Joe Biden won this election, honestly, here is what you have to believe.

You have to believe this.

And this has nothing to do with the Dominion corporate flowchart and are we counting votes in China or in Venezuela?

And who knows if those things are true?

And we will eventually find out.

The truth always finds us out.

We will eventually find out the answers to these kinds of questions.

But it will take

longer than we have between now and January 20th, when a new president is constitutionally to be sworn in.

It will take longer than that amount of time to get to that truth.

Whatever you may think of Sidney Powell, you may think she is a charlatan or a prophetess.

The reality is prior to to this story, she did win one of the most improbable court cases in recent history on the right.

But it took three years in the Mike Flynn case.

He signed his plea agreement, I believe, on December 1st, 2017.

And it wasn't until this year that he was exonerated.

I can boil it all down into one question or one statement right now, though.

To believe Joe Biden won the election, honestly, you have to believe that in a handful of counties

that just so happen to be for decades notoriously controlled by his political party,

that somehow in those handful of counties that have been notoriously and coincidentally controlled by his political party for decades,

The people there are just so stupid and so mind-numbed

that they are unaware of how to use a U.S.

postal

system.

They don't know when election day is.

They don't know what the law says about when ballots are due.

And that is the

innocent explanation.

You laugh, Todd, but that's what you have to believe.

You have to believe that.

Because the math doesn't work when you talk about one, the same party won 15 House seats, but its presidential candidate lost by millions of votes.

That's never happened in American history, at least in two-party history.

So the only explanation that you can make for those anomalies,

we could do whole shows on those kinds of anomalies.

But frankly, the National Republican Party,

the Republican Attorney General,

and many Republican governors just can't be bothered with these sorts of things and don't really seem to care, right?

So like with aliens, like with impeachment, these are cataclysmic stories.

We'll all just move on like nothing ever happened.

But to believe Biden won, you have to believe that in a handful of counties, the people there are so dumb, they don't know how to mail in a ballot on time.

And that explains the 4 a.m.

vote dump offs.

That's what you have to believe.

But in the end, that'll get memory hold.

We had a terrorist attack on Christmas Day in Nashville.

Motive, who needs a motive?

Worst shooting ever in American history in Las Vegas.

That was three years ago.

Motive who needs a motive.

And we just memory hold that which is inconvenient and move on.

How did we become a people

who could not even be bothered with the truth?

We'll discuss that next.

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See,

when you're in a culture

that doesn't care

on a systemic level about what the truth is,

you are beyond political solutions at that point.

Politics

is the result, well, at least it's supposed to be the result of faith and ethics and action.

And those are things that are supposed to be based on truth.

But when you're in a post-truth culture, when the truth doesn't matter anymore,

politics can't save you as a people.

That is only when there are spiritual and moral solutions, because you're facing systemic spiritual and moral problems.

In 2016, I wrote a book called A Nefarious Plot

that thanks to Glenn Beck,

we're going to turn into a movie next year.

The people who did the unplanned movie happened to be tuned in to Glenn's show in September of 2016 when he had me on for the first time to talk about a nefarious plot.

And they were

interested in what they were hearing, went and got the book, read it,

and contacted me the following weekend.

And in the next few months, we hashed out a deal for them to adapt that book into a movie.

And we're in the script writing phase for that film.

And it's going to be released, we hope, next year in 2021.

And in the book, A Nefarious Plot, when I first wrote this book,

I was

anticipated that this would be somewhat satirical,

that it would be

a kind of

polemic using what I hoped was a clever device of a demon general from hell

to almost set him up as like an anti-hero.

to

connect dots of how we got here culturally.

but

instead of framing it in your typical conservative or Christian-ese lingo that would only reach people we already agree with,

I don't need to warn most of you listening here today.

I don't need to warn you about where we're headed as a people.

If you're tuned into a show like this the week between Christmas and New Year's,

you're likely either you're my mom listening in Grand Rapids, Michigan on 1 a.m.,

or you're committed to this cause, right?

Yep.

If you're tuned in right now, if you're not ejected,

you're not, and if you, it doesn't mean if you are, you're, you're not committed.

We all need a break.

I'm on a vacation right now, right?

We all are.

We just took a couple of days off to come in here and appear on several hundred radio stations around the country.

Thought it was worth it.

But if you are tuned in live today, or you're going to listen on a podcast later.

And this is how you spend some of your time between Christmas and New Year's when there's even in a COVID year, lots of other things you could be doing that no one would fault you for this time of year, right?

It is the most wonderful time of the year.

But if you're tuned in right now,

you're pot committed, man.

You know what's at stake.

You get it.

Because it's certainly not just for it's got a good beat and you can dance to it that you're listening to this right now, right?

You're here because you're like Isaiah right now.

Here I am, man.

Send me.

Where are we going?

Show me where the battle's at.

Give me my marching orders.

I'm in.

That's why you're tuned in at a time of year like this, unless you're my mom.

So I don't need to warn you.

So when I wrote a nefarious plot,

it was written as a book that you could give to other people

that might not see it with the clarity that you do.

And to have them look at truth from the other side of the looking glass,

which is from hell's perspective.

So I created a character.

Lord Nefarious, a senior demon general from hell.

And I came up with a narrative that he was tasked by the devil with taking down the United States of America.

And thanks to Glenn, we sold tons of copies of that book.

It still sells well.

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And we're going to turn it into a movie next year.

And in the book,

Lord Nefarious lays out point by point

how he took America down.

He names names, like real names, like names of historical figures,

heretics,

revolutionaries,

why America had to be dismantled,

why we were a threat to hell as a country,

and then

how hell did it.

But he doesn't do it in the way, you know, the

mustached villain of comic book lore, now that I have you captured, let me tell you my master plan.

It's not like that.

No, this is an end zone dance.

The game is over.

I mean, he's spiking the ball, telling your mama jokes.

He's rubbing your nose in it, man.

I mean, he's going, this is

an alternative title for a nefarious plot could be, how you like them apples.

That could be the alternative title to the book.

It's a rant.

It's a rant of, I own you, and you know it.

And the fact that we won't respond to it, we will think it's conspiracy, we will think it can't possibly be true, it's silly, it's parody, that

we're so numb

in the senses.

The serrated edge of critical thinking is so dulled

that we'll just shrug it off and not care.

And that is how he will, that level of indifference and complacency.

Another,

a far more best-selling book would use the term lukewarm.

That level of lukewarm from those who read it or ignore it and don't will be how Nefarious convinces his master the devil that he has succeeded in taking America down.

And on our daily show

on Blaze TV, Noon to Two Eastern after Glenn,

we've been reminiscing through that book this year.

And it's frightening how a book that I meant to be sort of

a more sarcastic version of a Babylon bee

has turned out instead to be sadly prophetic.

And the level of indifference we have

culturally this year.

Ah, the masks work.

No, they don't.

Well, they don't.

They do.

Just wear it anyway.

Wear the mask.

Just doesn't matter if it works.

Data doesn't matter.

Anthony Fauci.

Yeah, I've been lying to the whole year.

It doesn't matter.

Just do what I say anyway.

Shut your country down based on my guesstimates.

Oh, yeah, man.

I'm sure.

I'm sure.

And for whatever reason, the second biggest county in Wisconsin, Dane County, totally understood how to use the U.S.

Postal Service.

But the biggest county, Milwaukee, didn't.

So just totes legit 4 a.m.

vote drop-offs.

No biggie.

Aliens.

Ah, whatevs.

Did you watch Tiger King last night?

See, the idea that 2020 snuck up on us is not true.

It is a year that the stage was set for

many, many years prior to this one.

And it's because of what's gone on in the hearts and minds and in the homes of our country.

And that's what we're going to talk about here when we come back on the Glenn Beck program.

My name is Steve Dace, alongside Todd Erzen and Aaron McIntyre.

How did we get here?

Well, we know how we got here on a macro level, but what about on a more granular, individual level?

We will discuss that in a moment.

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Merry Christmas.

Happy New Year to all of you.

Steve Dace, I do the show right after Glenn here on Blaze TV from noon to 2 Eastern each day, filling in for Glenn today and

the winter storm here in the Midwest tomorrow permitting also tomorrow morning as well.

I'm with my co-hosts that are with me here every day on Blaze TV, Todd Erz and Aaron McIntyre, and all of you.

And I wanted today, I wanted us to have a meta TED talk about 2020 today.

Because

if we continue with the lie that 2020 snuck up on us,

2021 is going to sneak up on us too.

So in my 2016 book, A Nefarious Plot,

A Demon General from Hell essentially regales us with an American version of an Antonio Gramsci story.

Who was Antonio Gramsci?

He was a little-known Italian Marxist who rebelled against Mussolini, was put in prison.

And while he was in prison, he wrote a manifesto.

And part of his manifesto was what he called the long march through the institutions.

Meaning that instead of trying to rebel openly

as Marxists and communists, it would be better to co-opt institutions over time internally.

And essentially, on an incremental basis, you create, if you'll catch my drift here, a new normal.

And the frog in the boiling water, provided it simmers for long periods of time first.

Once it reaches the level of boil, it won't feel as inclined to jump immediately out of the water.

It's used to the temperature by now.

You are the status quo now.

We're not the revolutionaries.

We're the status quo.

And Lord Nefarious

quantifies that for us on an American level.

How did that happen to our country?

How did your Republican governors, like the appropriately named Mike DeWine, DeWine,

become peddlers of COVID panic porn?

How did your universities

become anti-free speech?

How did all of this occur?

Well, Nefarious connects all of those dots for us.

But there's another chapter to the story, and it's one that's more uncomfortable.

because ultimately we are a government by the consent of the governed.

You and I, we have as much evil as we are willing to tolerate.

We have as much tyranny as we are willing to tolerate.

I thought for sure this year,

when we were on our fifth fake funeral,

which any other generation would have called riots,

but we called them funerals and peaceful protests for a guy that once held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach.

Doesn't mean, by the way, that a cop should have put his knee on his neck for nine minutes.

I don't think that was called for.

And he should be appropriately charged for that in his bank.

But that doesn't mean that the guy he did it to is a saint.

We have this thing in our culture where

if the alternative is bad, that must mean the alternative to the alternative by extension is good.

And that's actually

not how truth operates.

That's not how morality operates.

Those are subjective scales.

Those aren't objective standards.

Other generations understood this.

That good is not determined by not being as bad as what we all know is bad, but that good is its own reward.

Good is its own standard.

And good is what determines what is bad, right?

Not bad determining what is good, as we do now.

Hey, man, the Democrats are running an open Marxist.

True.

Well, that must mean the Republican running against them is Joan of Freaking Ark.

False.

I'm not saying not to vote for them since you don't want Marxist.

Am I saying that?

No.

No.

What I am saying, though, is to stop lying to yourself.

Let's be adults and honest about the choices we have to make in an imperfect world.

Because see,

Nefarious left a key part of the story out.

You can corrupt all the institutions you want.

You can corrupt all the media you want.

You can corrupt all the schools and universities that you want.

But in our form of government,

a government by the consent of the governed,

where the Constitution of these United States begins with the words, we the people, in order to form a more perfect union,

that the people are the ultimate authority.

We have to be willing

to be ruled.

We have to exchange what St.

Peter says.

You, my brethren, you were called.

You were made to be free, but don't use your freedom to indulge your sinful natures.

Where Peter is stating that the original intent of man, And now in a post-resurrection world where Christ has come, as we sing those carols this time of year, he has come now, the second Adam, to restore the order as it was intended.

First to pay the debt for our sins,

and then to put God's Spirit in our hearts, and then ultimately to fulfill the kingdom of God.

And Peter's concern is that we would now, with our restored freedom, we would use that to indulge our sinfulness, right?

See, that should be where the battle is at.

In our culture, it's not.

Our culture doesn't listen to Peter anymore.

Our culture listens to Loki.

You were made to be ruled.

You seek subjugation.

Or as the super villains said it when I was a kid, kneel before Zod.

What broke me this year more than anything

is I thought for sure when y'all watched the fifth or sixth fake funeral or peaceful protest, otherwise known as a riot,

y'all would be like,

screw that noise, man.

Opening the sports bar up on Monday.

Opening the family business up next week.

Seen enough.

But we didn't.

Oh, there were isolated pockets here or there.

We just watched on TV and fired off social media posts that then got censored and

emailed shows like mine and Glenn's

and said,

Man, I believe in the Second Amendment and everything, but it really just sucks that my tyrannical governor has kept me in my home.

How many of those emails did I get this year?

That I didn't see coming.

That surprised me.

I'm not surprised Andrew Cuomo killed a bunch of people in nursing homes at all, are you?

No.

No.

I mean, one of the guys' first acts as governor was signing in a law, a bill that lets you kill babies born alive.

You surprised he's killing the infirmed that they think are already dead?

I'm not shocked.

Just another day that ends up in Cuomo land.

Anyone shocked at what California is doing to its people?

No,

what I didn't see coming,

and

what spells far more doom for us moving forward than anything government wants to do to us

is the fact

that we will take it.

How did we become so paralyzed by dysfunction,

abuse, tyranny, bullying?

My sequel book,

A Nefarious Carol,

tells that sordid tale, and we'll talk about that next.

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My name is Steve Dace.

Todd Erz and Aaron McIntyre here with me as well.

We are the Steve Dace Show, noon to 2 Eastern, right after Glenn Beck each weekday when we're not on vacation, as we are right now, right here on Blaze TV.

We are back from vacation, though, with the opportunity to fill in for Glenn here this morning.

We could not say no to that.

And we want to thank Glenn and his entire radio team for lowering the standards in order to accommodate us or being so desperate to find fill-ins

for us to be here for the next couple of days.

So, how does a culture get to the point

that it's willing to be subjugated?

what would make

this is this has got to be the first ever

revolution

that was started by insurgents who openly picked fights with the people that own all the guns I mean typically like the red coach tried to do that's what set off Lexicon and Concord Typically you try to round up all the guns of the people you're about to subjugate first, right?

Sure.

That's typically what you do.

Take the swords and the guns away so that they don't have a means really to fight back against you.

That's typically how tyranny works.

Instead, they've got no problem infringing on us.

None.

And this year, we've seen why that is.

I mean, most of us won't even walk into a restaurant without a mask.

Most of us won't even just open up our businesses.

How many pastors listening right now didn't open up their churches?

I woke up early one morning in April

as we were heavy in now to the, we went from 15 days to flatten the economy, I'm sorry, flatten the curve,

to 30 days to slow the

growth of the American economy.

I'm sorry.

Slow the spread.

Yes, that's what it was.

Slow the spread.

Did I say slow the middle class?

I meant, I'm sorry, slow the spread.

That's what I meant.

Where clearly, if you own your own restaurant or grocery store or hardware store, you can't stop people from getting coronavirus there.

But at every Home Depot, Lowe's, and grocery store chain, Walmart, Target, they are able to do so.

I guess they have that UV light filtration system that y'all just in your middle class and small businesses can't afford, apparently, right?

And

I woke up early one one morning in the midst of this,

being knee-deep and pushing back on COVID panic porn, deconstructing the Imperial College model, when frankly, a lot of my brethren, even in conservative media, were like all in on regurgitating it.

And I'm like, yeah, this math doesn't add up.

I'm not playing it.

And I was just shocked to see

how easily we could be subjugated.

None of us knew what the hell an Anthony Fauci was.

And suddenly now, he's an unelected potentate.

And we watched even President Trump in an election year hand his presidency over

to a guy that, to me, I think he's the most malevolent fiend I've ever encountered in my time as an American.

And I'm 47 years old.

No one is this consistently wrong

on accident.

And then there's the quack, Debbie, bedazzle your face shield.

Stay home for Thanksgiving.

And if you don't meet with family, consider yourself infected and get tested.

Oh, by the way, my parents, I'm worried about them.

So we're all going to get together, but you all stay home, Burks.

And they essentially ran this country for three or four months into the ground.

Burks gave us the IHME model.

Fauci just gave us his own unique brand of sociopath.

And I woke up one morning early in April struggling with, I cannot believe how many people are just putting up with this.

How many of my own brethren I work with at this industry, I show them the data, cognitive dissonance, they don't care.

And I woke up one morning with the idea of a sequel to a nefarious plot.

that the battle is really in the hearts and minds of each of us as individuals.

And that we as a people have to be broken

to the point that we lack the courage of our own convictions to even defend our autonomy as individuals.

And I woke up with the idea for a story called A Nefarious Carol,

predicated on the idea of now that America has been taken down, what would the devil do with his new chew toy?

What would he do?

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So we were talking last hour, 2020.

We're acting like this is a year that just snuck up on us, it blindsided us.

We never saw it coming.

But looking at what's happened to us as a people, perhaps we should have.

And

we talked about my 2016 book, A Nefarious Plot, where we looked at, from the top down,

systemic takedown

of America's institutions and cherished ideals and traditions.

And so now we are having, as a result of that,

existential debates.

What's a gender?

What's a word mean?

We have big tech now.

I mean, imagine Mob Bell deciding 100 years ago

who would get a phone line based off of whether they agreed with the viewpoints that you were going to communicate

over the phone.

It would never have been tolerated.

That's exactly what we allow big tech to do today.

They are the city gate.

They are the information superhighway today.

And you get to plug in at

their benevolence.

How did we get here?

Well, that is a personal story.

And that is a battle that has taken place in virtually every home in America.

And that's what my new book, A Nefarious Carol, is about.

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But in a nefarious carol, we meet a young woman whose story is sadly not all that unique in our time.

Her name is Ray.

And no, she's not named after the Star Wars character.

Her name is spelled R-A-E.

And the book is dedicated to my mom and my grandmother.

My mom had me at 15 years old.

And her and my grandmother

worked together to raise me as when I was an infant.

They were the first two people to show me what unconditional love is.

And so the book is dedicated to them, and both of their middle names are Ray.

It's kind of a family tradition on my mom's side of the family.

And so that's why the female character is named Ray.

It's to honor them.

We meet a young woman named Ray.

And Ray

comes from a Christian home.

But in many respects,

her parents belong to a church, go to a church.

They know the churchies,

but have not really confronted their own demons.

The dysfunction spills out in the home.

Ray rebels against the dysfunction, which she sees not as dysfunction because she's young and immature as a teenager.

She sees it as hypocrisy.

She doesn't see that her parents are also struggling sinners.

She sees them as, hey, you guys are supposed to have it all together.

You're supposed to model to me how this is supposed to look, and you can't do that.

So why would I follow what you believe?

She sees it as hypocrisy.

And so she rebels

right into the arms of an abusive drug-dealing boyfriend.

And now she's trapped in an abusive relationship.

She doesn't think she can go home again.

And finally, one night at Christmas time,

when the abuse has just taken too much of a toll,

she finally gets the gumption to run away from this relationship.

But she has nothing but the clothes on her back

and enough money for a tank of gas

and

to buy a room at a CD motel

in a town she doesn't know on a side of the town.

She doesn't feel safe.

Just for no other reason, just to have a roof over her head for a night and a good night's sleep to ponder what her next move is going to be.

Because she doesn't know.

She thinks she's all alone in the world and nobody cares about her.

And it's at this moment, alone in this room at Christmastime, that the enemy, the devil himself,

chooses to reveal himself to Ray.

Because now that America has been conquered,

is no longer in the way of his master plans, the devil wants to play with his new toy.

And he wants America to now be the launching pad for the culmination of his master plan.

But for that to take place,

for him to give the world its long dreaded and feared Antichrist,

the devil needs a willing partner.

He needs a mate.

And for the ritual of conception, in this case, to be successful between demon and human,

He needs a female that will give herself to him of her own free will.

She cannot be imposed upon, raped, deceived.

Now, he's deception incarnate.

But it's the truth, as Obi-Wan once said, from a certain point of view.

He has to be earnest with her.

He has to legitimately woo her.

And he knows that her favorite story as a child was Dickens or Christmas Carol.

So to emulate that story and to

touch Ray's heart,

the devil takes Ray to her past,

to the moments that were pivotal in her past,

that brought her to the moment that she's in of hopelessness right now.

He

then shows

her present to her, what's going on in the world around her because of the choices that she has made and others have made against her.

And then he hopes that by doing so,

by giving Ray what she wants more than anything,

meaning and purpose to her life,

that by filling those voids, Ray will agree to join with him for the future.

The book is only five chapters:

the offer, the past, the present, the future, and the close.

And at the end, Ray has a choice to make.

And the choice she will make will have an impact on all of humanity.

And what you're going to follow along in this conversation

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And what Ray wants most of all is what we all want most of all: meaning and purpose in our lives.

And that is what the enemy tempts her with.

We will will discuss how he tempts her with those things in a moment.

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One of the things we talk a lot about on my show over the years is what I call three-dimensional thinking.

And the first dimension is to know why you and I believe what we believe.

Why do you believe what you believe?

If you are

a New Testament thinker, that is a commandment.

to know why you believe what you believe.

Peter writes to always offer reasons, have reasons for the hope that you have.

And the Greek word that he writes there is apologia, where we get the term apologetics,

meaning the ability to defend your beliefs.

Unfortunately,

many

New Testament thinkers in America today weren't really taught with how to think through the New Testament.

And so a lot of believers don't know why they believe what they believe.

And that's why they feel threatened when they're called to go and share their beliefs with others, when conversations come up

and challenges to their belief system are uttered.

We are silent because we don't want to look stupid.

So we don't even reach the first dimension.

Well, the problem you're going to have in a culture, in a post-truth culture,

is you're never going to get to stage three, which is persuasion.

If you can't lay your own foundation.

What is it you're trying to persuade people to?

What is this light that you're shining?

Where does it go?

What's the light in the stable?

Who's in there?

Why do I care?

The second dimension is to know why other people believe what they believe.

When people have a different belief system than us, why do they believe those things?

For example, we heard a lot post-9-11 that, well, Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

That can't possibly be true, folks.

And everybody who said that doesn't know what Muslims believe.

A Muslim believes, according to Quran, that not only was Jesus Christ not resurrected, he was never even crucified, and that Allah put a substitute in there instead to fool the Jews.

That's right out of Islamic teaching.

So as a Christian, the New Testament teaches you that if Christ isn't raised, your teaching is in vain and you're all still dead in your sins, meaning that Christianity's foremost truth is that Jesus was dead and is now alive.

And if that is not the case, then he's not the Messiah and that

we're heretics.

So one religious viewpoint says that Jesus lived and died and lives again.

The other religious viewpoint said he never died.

to live again.

And so

and he died later and is still dead.

And one interpretation of that says that actually Allah will send him back later on to punish all of us for claiming he was the son of God because they wrote in the dome of the rock, they carved the words there, God has no son.

Now, both of those viewpoints could both be wrong, right?

Could Christians and Muslims both be wrong?

Yes.

Yeah.

Can they both be right?

No.

No.

No, they can't both be right.

One can be wrong and the other right, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

Or the other wrong and then one right.

That could happen too, the other way.

Sure.

Sure.

And they could both be wrong.

But when they are both asserting incontrovertible facts as truth,

they cannot possibly both be right.

They're irreconcilable, correct?

It's just reason and science.

That's exactly what.

Well, it used to be.

It used to be in the way we used to live as a people.

And so

I wonder this morning at 10:23 Eastern Time,

how many people on the hundreds of radio stations were on here this morning?

How many Americans, for the first time in their lives,

heard a two-minute breakdown on

the creedal differences between Christianity and Islam?

Had never heard that in their lives, in their lives.

And understand that for the last going on 20 years,

we have been involved in military conflict with a part of the world

that is inherent to Islam.

And how many of you never heard this before?

And then let me follow it up with another far more uncomfortable question.

How many of you

that go to a church

never heard this before?

And you heard it for the first time from a dude born to a 15-year-old mom

who flunked out of college because they didn't give degrees for Super Tech Mobile and intramural basketball and party balls.

That's a problem.

Is that a problem?

A bit.

That's a bit of a problem.

You know, a guy once wrote a phrase, my people perish for a lack of knowledge.

That's a lack of knowledge.

Like,

who cares about being a theologian?

Do we even know the basic facts that are at stake in our civilization today?

No, we don't.

We don't know what we believe.

That's the first dimension.

We sure as heck don't know what other people believe.

That's the second one.

So one is a foundation.

The other one is I've made a connection now.

I know where you're coming from.

How do we get to persuasion, though?

That is the third dimension.

Why do other people believe what they believe about what we believe?

One of my favorite movies when I was a kid was Office Space, and I love the line where

the anti-hero in the film says,

it's not that I'm lazy, Bob.

It's that I just don't care.

All right?

It's not that many Americans are ignorant

of the fundamental truths

of the world.

They've not been exposed to the Ten Commandments.

If you've watched any of the Fox sports presentations of the Super Bowl in the last 20 years, you have at least seen the entire Declaration of Independence recited word for word in the pregame, right?

Yeah.

Okay?

Americans are not like,

hey,

what is that?

They don't care.

That's worse.

They don't care.

Like, there's aliens, apparently.

We don't care.

Illegal or extraterrestrial, we don't care.

Voter fraud?

Nah.

Postal service, what is it?

Who knows?

Shut your businesses down.

Boy, that sucks.

Oh, well.

We can't be bothered.

Just give me Tiger King and

I'll fight through it.

And see, we think those

frivolities, we believe that they will fill the void.

Until once good exits the space

and evil says,

we will take it from here.

See, Ray thought that too.

Ray thought that she was getting unconditional love.

She didn't think she was getting from her family.

She thought she was getting this from this boyfriend when really he just wanted to use her and abuse her.

Faced with that reality, she has nowhere now to go.

So she flees, which is a natural human reaction.

But where is she running to?

Her Petra is a motel room.

Her safe space is a hunting ground.

And now she is completely and totally disarmed against what the enemy is going to confront her with, just as we are right now in our culture.

completely and totally disarmed

in the face of what we're being confronted with.

More in a moment.

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So just stay tuned there.

But picking up the conversation where we left it off, the reason why three-dimensional thinking is so important,

the reason why it is so important

if we want to reach this era of our countrymen before the country is gone, before the shining city on a hill and it's flickering right now, folks,

before it goes out,

is

because that's really where the battle is at.

We are

potentially going to inaugurate on January 20th

a dementia patient for president.

Seriously.

That seriously may happen.

And one of the reasons it may happen is because

people thought,

I hate peace treaties in the Middle East.

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I don't like making more of my own money.

I want my taxes to go up.

And,

wow, this is the first substantive growth and family median income in America since 1969.

Who wants any of that action?

I need more government.

Actually, most Americans didn't think that.

It would be better if they did.

It would be better if they did.

Because at least that would show

there's some contest of ideas occurring.

You know what I'm saying?

Somewhere, somewhere something real is happening.

Yeah, these ideas are all bad,

but at least someone has some ideas to debate in the arena of ideas.

We're like standing in the arena of ideas and no one shows up.

Right?

It's like WrestleMania.

We play our theme, some kind of patriotic music.

We come down the aisle like Ric Flair.

Ooh, we're ready to go.

It's the arena of ideas.

Let's do this.

Then we wait.

The opponent's theme never plays.

There's no battle.

No one else shows up.

We wrestle against ourselves in the arena of ideas.

Do you want to know the real reason?

many of your countrymen voted for a dementia patient for president?

Because they thought the guy in the White House who did the peace treaties cut your taxes and gave us the most sustainable median family income since 1969, they just thought he was a meanie

and just they were tired of it.

So,

Marxism and whatever the hell Kamala Harris is, it is instead, I guess.

Think about that.

Stop and think about that.

That's worse.

That is far worse for us about where we are as a culture.

It goes back to the beginning when you said if you take something idolatrously and label it as wrong,

and by default, whatever else exists is automatically right.

That's one hell of a rabbit hole that you're going on.

That's exactly right.

Yeah.

So the other guy must be okay because I think Trump is mean.

So I won't even vet him on the issues.

None of it.

I don't care.

And we act like, well, it's 2020.

Really?

I don't want to vote for the first black president.

I just want to say I did that.

I'm not going to.

Jeremiah Wright, what is it?

Cloward Piven, never heard of him.

Nor do I care.

right?

And what in the Sam Hills of Barry Satoro?

I don't know.

Doesn't matter.

None of it matters.

Then halfway through his reign, we have more people on food stamps than the total population of Spain.

Everybody who disagrees is an automatic racist.

We're at each other's throats like never before, right?

Right.

Right.

See, I've been telling you all morning, 2020 didn't sneak up on us at all.

2020 is not,

it's not a sucker punch, it's a fulfillment.

We've been here already.

We just went next level, like that scene in a Christmas story, right?

They didn't start right at the triple dog there.

Now they did skip a step, okay?

But there was a warm-up, right?

There was initially, hey, I dare you, I double-dog dare you.

Now there was a step between that and the triple dog there, and they broke protocol by going right to the triple dog there.

But the dare didn't come out of nowhere, right?

No.

No.

It just skipped a step

theatrically.

That's what happened here.

This didn't come out of nowhere.

We just kind of skipped a step or two.

And we all thought we were going to be comfortable with life as we know it.

And it'll take a few years to go through those couple of steps.

And then we'll kick the can down the road and confront those steps when they arrive.

Well, they arrived with a vengeance.

See, people make choices like this

when they lack truth.

And you know, the number one reason people lack truth

is because

they lack love.

The idea that love and truth are mutually exclusive when they're not.

It's an old line.

It's been attributed to Aquinas and many other people throughout church history that

people really don't care what they think until they think that you care.

So the reason a nefarious carol opens with a dedication to the first two people to show me what

truth unconditional love is like, Freudian Slip but true, what unconditional love is.

See, Ray lacks that.

It wasn't given to her in her home.

She got all the regulations of being a kid in a Christian home.

This is the expectations of who you are supposed to be.

But she got none of the love.

So she rebelled.

And she rebelled to a guy that she thought loved her, who didn't.

Because the truth is, he doesn't know what love is either.

Could probably write a book about how he became an abusive drug dealer, wasn't born one.

That also, unfortunately,

is a sordid place that he never intended to end up.

But the choices that he made and others made on behalf of him brought him to that vantage point.

What the enemy is selling her on is reason and purpose,

but also unconditional love.

He'll never abandon her, he tells her.

She doesn't have to change anything for him, he says to her.

She's just fine the way that she is.

See, the point of the Christmas story

is that God changed, when we couldn't get to heaven, God brought heaven to us.

In a barn, in a stable.

Jesus is the one kid when his mama yelled at him, hey, were you born in a barn?

Yeah, I kind of was.

I was born in a barn.

Yeah.

The message there is clear.

Anyone can approach this place.

Everyone is welcome here.

Just as you are.

Now,

ultimately, you'll come away from that experience different than you were, right?

Yeah.

But you can come just as you are.

How often is that message communicated in our homes in America today?

Why do people look to government for salvation?

Why do they look to government to protect and provide?

Why don't they look to God?

Kind of hard to maintain a republic on God-given rights

when people don't look to God the way that they used to.

Is Nietzsche right?

Is God dead and we have killed him?

Has God abandoned us?

Or maybe, just maybe,

it's our own fault.

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You know, a lot of Americans' favorite Bible verse.

For God so truthed the world.

No,

that's not how it goes.

Oh,

for God so loved the world.

Now, I'm a truth guy.

If you watch our daily show on Blaze TV when we come back on Monday, you're going to see over my shoulder in every episode are the words, truth be told.

My whole career, I've gone by three simple rules: fear God, tell the truth, and then make money.

We have risked our careers for the truth.

The truth is why we're in this business.

But the truth is, though,

that

people ultimately don't care about the truth you have to share with them

if they don't think you love them.

My kids don't agree with me.

I've got three teenagers.

They disagree quite a bit.

But the reason they respect me enough to listen

is because they know, and I've shown them, that I love them.

We have operated in the church in America as if these two things are mutually exclusive for a generation.

Churches that are great,

on fire for the truth in their pulpits,

but hardly ever baptize the next generation once the parents,

the time of the parents moves on.

And they dwindle in size.

And then they use the dwindling in size as almost like a badge of pride.

Well, people hate the truth, don't want to hear the truth.

That's all true.

And we're shrinking as evidence of that.

Really?

Because it also says, like the very first day of the church, Peter stood up and said, you all killed your Messiah and you need to turn or burn.

That was essentially his message, right?

That very first day.

That sums it up.

And thousands responded to that.

So the truth always turns people away?

Always?

Huh.

Weird.

It's not what we see in the New Testament.

It's not what we see in history.

But then there's the other side.

It says, yes, Steve, you're right on.

That's why here, what we do on Sundays, it's just all about love.

Now, our people don't know a cotton picking thing.

They couldn't think their ways out of a paper bag.

But look how big the parking lot is, and it's all full of cars.

Well, of course.

You've essentially brought the feminist movement to the church.

You know who loves the feminist movement?

Guys.

So, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm going to get the sex I want from you, but I don't like have to pay for the meal, marry you.

Hell, I don't have to hold open the door at the restaurant.

You drive a hard bargain, but I guess if you say so.

Big 10.

Yeah,

that's essentially what these churches do.

We're going to remove all of the convicting truth, and we're just going to do do-gooderism

with perpetual creepy smiles on our faces.

But when it really hits the fan, like this year,

and you really need answers,

sorry, we're closed.

I have a novel idea.

Literally, we're closed.

Literally, we're closed.

Yes.

I have a novel idea.

How about we merge these two things?

How about we have a fusion of love and truth?

Truth is the mission, but love is the motivation.

The enemy is attempting to reach Ray with unconditional love.

Why?

Because for most of us as human beings, the first notions of who God is

will come to us by who our fathers are.

Unfortunately, Aragorn,

today is the day that the strength of men has failed.

You are living in that time.

The men have failed.

Masculinity has failed.

The men don't fight.

The men don't stay.

The men don't don't

pay their bills.

They're not accountable.

They're not responsible.

Well, somebody has to fill that void

that God put the men in place to fill.

What will fill it?

Government.

The spirit of the age.

All the things that are currently beckoning at our door,

threatening our way of life as we speak.

Ray has been failed by all of the men in her life.

And that's a sad story that too many other Americans can tell.

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There's a fundamental problem we need to address, and until that problem is addressed,

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We won't have a fusion of truth and love or love and truth in our pulpits because most of the people that inhabit those pulpits are who?

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because most of the people in that party that hold its offices and its position of leadership are who?

Men.

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So, Todd and Aaron, when you get to the gist of the book,

and we don't want to spoil the ending, obviously,

but

without spoiling the ending, when you get to the gist of the book, the real battle for Ray's soul that rages in this motel room between her and the devil really comes down to the question, who is her real father?

Who's the anchor?

What's the plumb line?

And this is a fundamental battle that is happening all over the culture right now.

And why you can directly link the breakdown of masculinity, fatherhood, and therefore the family to our spiritual decline.

And that is the direct link to the political and socioeconomic decline that we see.

The men have failed.

There's just no other way around that.

And

that also means, though, that the men are the solution.

And it's a little thing.

Like, why are we having battles

over

whether some dude who feels pretty or isn't good enough to beat the boys gets to take your daughter's spot on a track team?

Why are we having that battle, Todd?

You know why?

Because the courts said so?

Well, because of indoctrination in the schools.

Those are all the symptoms.

The real disease is the dad who sits there in the stands on his hands and does nothing while his daughter's spot is being taken away.

And then all the other dads who know that is wrong, who just play on their phones and want the moment to go away rather than stand up and be counted, to stand in the gap instead.

History is determined by those who show up.

We're no showstop.

Always.

We are are Legion.

As a father of four daughters myself,

before I knew that they were going to be involved in track or soccer to the extent that they are, making sure

that they saw in equal proportion, and the proportion doesn't always exist at the exact same moment in time, depending on their behavior or the various needs of the day, but that balance of grace and mercy.

If you don't have that in your life, you won't need, you won't know how to be

a man who is a father.

When you're a man without kids, that balance

is

fought over and thought over

on different fronts.

And perhaps the equation and the variables involved are different, but once you're a father,

it really gets simplified on making sure they see both because one does not make sense without the other.

And you see that in Ray's life.

You don't know where the book is going to end, but once you get to that ending, you understand

why she is so rife for being picked off for the devil, why she has the question she has, because there was no appropriate sense of proportion.

You know,

when you're in trouble, your daughters are in trouble.

What they need to feel is that lack of that hug, that I got your back, that I believed in you.

That's been taken away.

If you never, ever feel that,

then all the punishment feels is something to escape from, run away from.

The father is just a man in your way causing you problems, not somebody you crave.

That's something you should do.

Exactly.

So that balance of grace

from mercy and justice is so vital to the story that Steve has painted through the life of Ray.

When you look at your generation of men, Aaron,

the putting off of responsibility, the prolonged adolescence, you know, I've said to many young men that have emailed me over the last few years, you know,

I'm not sure if I'm ready to be a husband.

I always write them back.

You're not.

I'm not sure if I'm ready to be a dad.

You're not.

And you never are.

You're never ready and there's never enough money.

So just get used to that now.

I make a lot more money than I did when my kids were born because our show has grown to be successful.

I still rack my brain about how are we going to afford all these things, making far more than I was making when they were little.

You're never ready.

There's never enough money.

That's not an excuse for putting off the responsibilities that make your life as a man have meaning and bring meaning to the people around you.

That is correct.

And it's something that

plagues my generation.

But it's not a plague from without.

It's one from within.

Whether it's driven by fear, which is the most of this,

which is something that we're not called to have our lives dominated by, or whether it's driven by something else, whether it's driven by your own selfish desires, which is easy enough because in our country, at least, and for most of the Western world, this is something that Todd talks about quite a bit.

We have so much,

we have so much wealth, and we have a great deal of avarice as well.

I can go on my phone and look up a porn website, and that need,

that longing, that desire can be fulfilled without the woman.

I can go and I can work for myself, and I can go

work and

save up for the PlayStation 5 or save up for some other

titillating entertainment that fills the desire, not all the way,

for adventure and for risk in the life.

Yep, both of those things are just fake substitutes.

And I don't know.

I think it's different for everyone.

But I think from those two desires, whether it's fear, I don't know if I'm ready, or whether it's selfishness, I don't want this.

Both those things right now in my generation, and to a lesser extent in your generation, but in my generation primarily, are why we are where we are.

And

I would say as well, when we're talking about

people,

what do we say a lot, Steve?

People are people.

People are not constructs.

People are people.

And that was what struck me early on in Nefarious Carol,

is that it painted a picture of someone who is not a construct.

Because when we go online and we see videos of people losing their damn minds over

individuals not wearing a mask in the grocery store, when we go online and we see hordes of people, right, I'm sorry, peacefully protesting in our nation's big cities,

it's so easy easy to see people as constructs, and that's not what we are called to do.

If you're a believer in Jesus Christ, we cannot see people as constructs.

He didn't see us as constructs.

He saw us as people needing saving.

That's why he came.

That's what we're celebrating this time of the year.

Everyone...

As you said earlier at the top of the show, Steve, everybody has demons in their past

that need to be confronted, that need to be dealt with.

We all do as well.

And when we see each other for the human beings that we are, not as constructs, not as Karens, not as Black Lives Matters, not as social justice warrior constructs, we truly have the compassion that is needed to be able to take the truthful stands.

that each man is called to do in our country and in our culture.

And that's what we need to see more of.

Because if you start seeing people as constructs only, you'll never be able to muster the compassion that then propels you to take those stands.

Well said.

Now, some of you listening right now are like, hey, this is a great Sunday school lesson.

This is a great morality tale.

Don't necessarily disagree with it.

But

I mean, what's that have to do with

cancel culture?

What's that have to do with big tech censorship?

You know, the nuts and bolts issues that we're facing right now, voter fraud.

Everything.

It has to do

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Just to make the point

that

what we bind in our hearts and minds and in our homes is going to be loosened unto the culture and into the political system.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

If you get the reference there that I just made,

one stems from the other.

The Andrew Breitbart saying that politics flows downstream from culture, for example.

So,

one of the debates we're having right now, in the moment,

is about COVID relief and sending stimulus checks to people.

And do we send $600 or $2,000?

Now,

I believe in limited government.

I'm a conservative, but there's very little appetite in the American populace right now for limited government.

Very few people that vote on it.

And so the debate is about how much money to send.

Now, if we're going to have that debate,

then dang skippy,

I'd much prefer we sent $2,000 to actual Americans as opposed to millions of dollars to study Pakistani gender equity, correct?

I'll second that.

Yeah.

But is that really the debate of a free people?

That debate?

No.

That's the debate.

That's negotiating terms of surrender.

That is acknowledging the war has been lost.

So, in exchange for me acknowledging that,

I want my cut of the action.

That's what that is.

That whole, the debate itself is a capitulation.

Because the real debate is

open my damn country back up.

I want my liberty back.

And then I'll just pursue my own happiness and probably make a hell of a lot more than your $600 or even $2,000.

That's what a free people does, right?

That's what a free people says.

Because it wasn't the government's to take in the first place.

I want my freedom back i want the dignity that comes with with my job with my business with fulfilling my talents and skills and that gives me a form that gives me meaning i i want to serve other people that way

that reward means a lot more to me than singing bone thugs and harmonies first of the month at the mailbox from from

um government uh instead of jehovah gyra government gyra okay

but But we're not having that debate, really.

There's a few people like my good friend Congressman Chip Roy, Thomas Massey, but the reason why we know their names, because they stand alone.

By and large, the debate we're having is the capitulation debate.

We're not even going to argue anymore that we shouldn't print any more fake money.

I just want my cut.

I agree if we're going to print fake money, give the people their cut.

But what I really agree with is stop printing the fake money.

To most people in Congress, inalienable rights means like sometimes maybe.

Yes.

Yeah.

That stems from where, where

I didn't always grow up in the best home.

But I mean, I didn't always have a model dad, but he did teach me the value of hard work.

Didn't let me quit things.

Had to earn everything I had.

And he taught me those things in a constructive way.

And I've been very, very blessed and benefited from that.

That's where those lessons are taught.

That's who teaches those lessons.

And the result of those lessons not being taught and passed on, you see in this debate that we're having right now over COVID relief,

previous generations

would have exhausted their supply of tars and feathers by now.

We're wondering

when the new streaming service comes out.

I guess we're going to stay home.

I mean, let's get some new content.

Without ever bothering to ask, how are they able to continue making these films and TV shows?

Well, we're all locked down.

Aren't they supposed to be locked down?

Right?

I guess they don't have to be locked down to film more entertainment for us to therefore remain locked down.

Ask yourself, and it's very dangerous to impugn motives of human beings.

We're not God.

We can't read each other's hearts.

But I do think it's fair to ask this question, because we are called to be fruit inspectors, right?

You know a tree by its fruit.

If they weren't attempting to,

if they were intending to purposefully transfer wealth from small businesses to large corporations,

And they were intending to destroy the American middle class.

What exactly would they be doing any differently than we have done for the last 10 months?

Todd, go.

I got nothing.

It's going to be a real short, like Michael Knowles' book on Reasons to Vote Democrat, all the pages are blank.

That's going to be a real short conversation.

Like California, months and months and months of lockdowns, months and months and months of masks, more and more lockdowns for more and more surges because the previous months of lockdowns and masks didn't work.

If California wasn't using the virus

as an excuse to further impose on the freedoms of its people,

if it were, how would it behave any differently than it is right now?

What would be any different?

Nothing.

Where is the passivity and compliance in the face of obvious tyranny?

Where is that taught or modeled

In the home.

By a dad who wasn't there, or you might have been better off.

Not knowing that he was.

How about on a macro level?

We encounter every day the battle against identity politics, right?

Yes, to say the least.

I belong to this group.

I'm a victim.

My meaning and purpose comes, identity comes from belonging to this group.

Well, as a woman, I think this.

Well, as a white male, I think this way, or I can't think that way anymore because I'm a white male.

I don't want to be racist.

Well, you know,

as a vegan pansexual lizard surgeon, you have a different perspective on the four chambers of the heart.

The reason we can't untether the grip on identity politics,

The ironclad grip it has on so many of our neighbors and countrymen is because it's the substitute for family and church.

It's where their identity is held.

It's where they're discipled.

It's where they're mentored.

It's where they're encouraged.

It's the very basis of their identity.

It's a substitute family.

What kind of a person would yearn for a counterfeit like that?

Probably the type that wasn't sadly given the real thing.

I would guess.

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Back here on the Glenn Beck program, Steve Dace filling in alongside my co-host on the Steve Dace show, Noon Newton Eastern after Glenn Beck on Blaze TV.

Todders and Aaron McIntyre here with me.

We've been talking today, filling in for Glenn.

Today, we've been looking at America kind of in 2020 from a moral and spiritual level.

Tomorrow, weather storm permitting, when we come back in,

we're going hardcore politics tomorrow.

So if those of you that like more of that, we're going to kind of kind of look at the state of

conservative politics.

heading into 2021 with a good friend of ours.

That's going to be on the show tomorrow.

But this morning, we've been talking about my new book, A Nefarious Carol, which lays out the battle between the lost and evil when good is nowhere to be found, when good seems inaccessible, disinterested, ineffective, and the lost are left one-on-one up against evil.

And the lost in this case is the female heroine, Ray, who is one-on-one with the devil himself in her motel room one desperate night at Christmastime, trying to figure out her next move while the devil is tempting her to join him instead.

And

a lot of us guys this year have been frustrated.

We see a Republican Party not fighting on the voter fraud or really anything else, right?

We see our churches are closed.

Our businesses are closed.

Our kids are wearing Chinese face diapers that don't work.

And that's even if they get to go to school.

And we keep looking around.

Who's going to stop this?

Who's going to make this end?

I have a suggestion.

Look in the same place that OJ should have searched for the real killers.

The man in the mirror.

The answer, folks, is us.

Pastor,

get off your rear end

and open your church.

Yeah, I'm talking to you.

And if you you don't, frankly, you're not deserving of your calling.

If you are frustrated that your church won't open,

open your home.

Do Bible studies in your home.

Invite people to come.

Exactly what seminary was Peter a graduate of?

Do you know?

The sandals on my feet seminary.

Yes, yeah, yes, yeah.

Todd's Catholic, so I always give him the Peter questions.

What seminary was it that, that,

what was it,

what New Testament

seminary was it, Aaron, that, can you recall?

The one that Paul went to?

What was the New Testament seminary that he went to?

I believe that was Scales seminary.

Thank you.

Yes.

As in falling off your eyes?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just open up your home then.

Have the church in your home.

Why are you waiting for somebody else to give you permission to corporately worship?

Invite the people that are willing to come.

You know, Jesus tells a tale of a banquet where the king had seats set aside for the people that were invited and were meant to be there, but then they refused to come.

They had all kinds of excuses.

So he finally tells his servants, you know what?

Then we'll just, they had their chance.

We'll give those seats to anybody who's willing to fill them then.

That's what's really sad.

I was talking with my wife about this.

This was a gargantuan opportunity for the church in 2020.

And instead, they clutched the fear cactus as hard as any entity.

Instead, they went up to that 18th green at Augusta National with a two-footer just to tap in for Birdie and to win the green jacket, right?

And the church went up there, man, and Sphincter puckered hard.

Yes.

Hard.

Okay.

And burnt the edge instead.

That's what the church did.

My business is closed.

You dude.

Why is it it was a, it was, it was, and we had her on the show, God bless her.

Why is it, though, it was like one, the one chick in Dallas that opened up her salon?

You ever notice, too, these mask videos?

It's always a woman who goes into the store without a mask, who's confronted by a guy who clearly has not known what it's like to pick his teeth up off the floor in too long of a time, right?

Yeah, where's the guys doing this?

Where are the guys?

15 of us are just going to walk in.

We're walking in.

None of us are wearing masks.

They can't fight all 15 of us.

Right.

Right.

Folks, where do you think this thing called America came from?

Those 56 men that signed that Declaration of Independence, they pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor in that order.

Almost all of them paid at least one of those three prices, and many of them paid them all.

What do you think the cost of this was?

You just taxed their tea a little bit too much.

It was on.

When a 29-year-old Baptist seamstress jumped on a bus one day named Rosa Parks and said, You know what?

No, no, I'm not.

I just, I'm not, I've had a bad day.

Today, I ain't having it.

Not doing it.

So, no, no, is my answer.

They could have taken her out behind that bus and beat her to death, and not a judge in that county would have convicted them of it.

Where are the men who will say no?

No,

no,

not happening.

We're not doing it.

No is the answer.

Thank you for your take on things, but the answer is no.

No.

Because I can promise you,

until good people learn how to say no,

evil will continue to say yes,

Or will take your silence as acquiescence and as a yes.

When will all of this end?

None of it will end.

We're just going to shift the battle next year from

take our vaccines that the World Health Organization say don't even work.

Who knows who knows?

But they could be lying.

We don't know.

Geez, who would I trust in a debate between Big Pharma and the World Health Organization?

You know,

is Viking funeral an option?

I'll take that.

It's a Russian roulette table and deer hunter.

No doubt.

I mean, there's the lady or the tiger.

That's what that is.

Okay.

So who knows?

Who knows?

And I'm not anti-vaccine.

I just would, I'd kind of like to see if they work before I throw something in my body.

that needs to be kept at negative 94 degrees Celsius that you just came up with in six months when apparently for 70 years we couldn't come up with something 90% effective against the flu, but in seven months we did it for a novel virus?

Okay, I'm not saying it doesn't work.

I'm just saying I kind of want to see it work first.

We don't get what they're going to say to people like us.

Well, cool.

You just, you can't go back to work, can't go to any more sporting events,

can't do any of that until we can track that you have been vaccinated.

That's what they're going to do.

That's the next, that will be the cost of you getting your life back.

Unless you and I are willing to pay the cost now.

And the answer is no.

It is quite likely Joe Biden is taking the oath of office on January 20th.

Donald Trump won't be there to save you.

If you think the Republican Party is here to save you,

then I...

I don't even know how to help you at that point.

You vote Republican for the same reason you put on, you know, put orange cones in a road.

You just kind of hope people will drive around the accident rather than piling on, okay?

The Calvary isn't coming, guys.

That's why we're here.

We're to be those people.

We're to be the people that stand in the gap.

We're to be the people

that when our prodigals run away, we run after them.

We're to be our daughters'

saviors

when they're broken and don't know where else to turn.

We're to be our wives' protectors.

That's our job, our sons' mentors.

That's our job, men.

That's our businesses.

That's our schools.

That's our culture.

That's our way of life.

Those are your God-given rights.

And these are the responsibilities that we all have in order to fulfill and enjoy them.

Pardon my French.

Get off your ass.

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Unfortunately, passivity for us as a species, guys,

is not new.

If you go back to the creation story, the devil is tempting Eve.

What is Adam doing this entire time?

Nothing.

He's just not doing anything.

Just letting it go down.

All right.

And then later on, when he's confronted

for what has taken place, he tries to shift the blame to her.

Aaron, the first Levite priest, Moses goes up to the mountain.

Aaron is told, hey, you're in charge in my stead.

Moses comes back.

Massive orgy.

Total revelry to foreign pagan gods.

Golden calves, peacocks, ostriches are being forged.

And Aaron just was like,

well,

I got nothing.

I don't know what to do, man.

Ghost Folka stanza.

Was I wrong?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

that's not

the

good news is the predicament that we are in is not unique for us as men.

This has gone on through our history.

as a species.

The bad news is that the only way out of it is to do the exact opposite of what we did to get into this.

Don't just drop your kids off at school.

Be involved in the curriculum,

what's going on in the schools.

Know the teachers.

Don't be afraid to speak up when they try to brainwash or indoctrinate them.

Don't sit around waiting for some brilliant conservative legal society to win some or win some case in some circuit court of appeals on gender, on, on, on gender and biology.

Let it be known in you and other men like you, in your school district, in your town.

That poop ain't happening here.

We're not doing that here.

And if it is, you're all fired.

So it's just not happening.

Not happening.

We won't tolerate it.

Man, we have as much

wickedness, tyranny, as we are willing to tolerate.

We tolerate it, so it goes on.

Go after your children.

Not to spoil the end of the book, a nefarious plot.

But Ray gets more clever and smarter as the story goes on.

But still on her own, she cannot break away from her own brokenness and say no to the devil.

She can't do it on her own.

The strength she ultimately would have to need to do so is going to have to come from somewhere.

Men, that is why we are here.

Let me close with a simple question

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But let me close with a simple question to all the men that are listening right now,

your children, no matter where they are, if you have them,

if they were stuck in a ditch, stranded, scared, outnumbered,

threatened,

would they call you?

Would they call you?

If the answer is yes, then there is no excuse for why you're not taking more of a stand in your own home and in your own neighborhood.

If the answer is no, then you need to do what needs to be done to change the answer to yes.

If you don't have children, just people in your life,

would you be somebody they may not, maybe they think you're kind of nuts, crazy, they don't agree with everything, but if they were in trouble, would they call you?

Would they?

I fear that for too many men in our country,

the answer to that

is no, or the question has never even been pondered.

Todd and Aaron, what are your final thoughts?

You're not, when you're called biblically to be the head of your household, you're not called to be the boss.

When we try to own up to that, we invariably fail.

You're called to recognize that God is the boss and to proceed accordingly without ambiguity.

Things get much easier after that.

You'll still be challenged.

You'll be challenged greatly, but you won't be lost in this thin gruel right now that is constantly shifting the goalpost to be as lazy as possible.

There's the oft-repeated moniker from Rita Panahi.

She's the Australian conservative columnist and Sky News host who says, cancel culture wouldn't exist without coward culture.

I think that's apropos from what we've been talking about today.

Amen to that.

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

We'll see you again tomorrow.

Until then, John 317.

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