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It's Pat and Stew in 4 Glenn today on the Glenn Beck program.

Today we're going to talk a little bit about

the

lack of

hypocrisy in any way from these politicians who just wind up telling you to stay in your home and then they go out and have all sorts of fancy dinners and vacations.

Well, it's not hypocrisy because they can do what they want.

Yeah,

they're better than we are.

Yep, that's the bottom line.

They're much better than we are.

And they know better.

They know what we should do, but they're not subject to the same rules.

Why should they be?

Why should they be?

They're elite.

Thank you, Pat.

Yeah.

We also have the Staten Island pub owner who they try to turn their pub into an autonomous zone so they could stay open during COVID.

They have a nice little message for Andrew Cuomo, I think you're going to enjoy.

And should you not vote for Republican Senate candidates in Georgia because you're upset about the election results in the presidential race,

a couple of attorneys are arguing this, one of which is a shockingly a prominent Democrat who's been donating to Democrats for a very long time.

Now he suddenly has come to see the light on Trump, but the way he's doing that is by encouraging Democrats to control the Senate and the entire government.

It's a strange choice.

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You know what's great is the incredible

consistency of these Democrats who tell us, you know, you got to be careful.

We're just trying to save your life.

Tell me more because I haven't noticed

consistency.

Really?

But yeah,

being a conservative, maybe I'm just judging them.

I think that's what's happening, Stu, quite honestly.

Thank you for being open to that possibility.

Yeah, it could just be partisan hatred.

I think that's clearly what it is.

You're a hater, and these are plus, my magic muffins are done.

We just heard that.

Okay.

They

know better than we do, right?

And they're just trying to help us out.

So they're not subject to the same kind of rules that we are.

You know,

we're sheep or cattle and they're the herders.

They're the ranchers.

And they just show us where to go and what to do and what not to do.

But they don't have to do that.

It's like,

for instance, it's like

a rancher who herds a bunch of cattle into a fenced-off area.

Well, you don't expect the rancher to stay there with them, do you?

No.

Are they going to move in?

They don't live outside.

They've got the nice people.

They're outside with the cattle.

That's ridiculous to expect that of them.

Eating hay and pooping in the grass.

That's not what their job is.

That's exactly right.

So when they tell you not to go anywhere, but they're taking vacations to Cabo, you should understand that.

They're better.

They're better than we are.

And that's the thing I think people don't understand.

They think, hey, maybe we should have the same rules and live by the same rules, but why would we have the same rules as our betters?

Exactly.

It doesn't make any sense.

It makes no better whatsoever.

We're zeros.

Why would we have the same rules as these heroes?

Thank you.

Are the cattle yelling at the rancher as he's going back to his beautiful home?

Hey, why are you in here with us?

No, they're not.

No.

They just say moo.

That's all they say moo.

And who knows what that means?

I mean, it could mean, hey, why are you going back to that nice house instead of staying out here with us?

I guess.

I guess.

Because they know better.

They know they're stupid and the rancher is smart and knows what's best for them.

So, for instance,

when the mayor of Austin goes to Cabo San Lucas on vacation and then everybody finds out about it.

Good for him.

Good for him.

Good for him.

That's what I say.

Good for him.

That's right.

That's correct.

I hope he had a great time.

I do, too.

Yeah.

I do too, because you know how hard he works and you know how smart he is and how he's looking out for everybody else.

And he's just telling you, you need to stay in your home.

You stay put, but I can go wherever I want.

It's a good thing.

And especially you can go to a country that has, that's not even attempting to stop coronavirus.

They're not even trying.

They're not even saying like, hey, yeah, you guys should stay a few feet apart.

They're basically just letting it roll.

They actually invite people to bathe in baths of COVID-19.

That's true.

It's in the salsa down there now.

When they make the salsa, they mix in a little COVID-19 just to give that extra little tang.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

They want everybody to have it.

It's fun.

It's fun.

That's basically their response.

But go ahead, take a vacation.

Take a vacation to Gabo.

We appreciate that.

That's fantastic.

And I love it.

Then when it comes out, oh, I apologize.

You know, everything, the conditions were completely different for me as they are for you now.

And I was fine doing that, but I'm sorry that you found out about it.

I'm seeing that.

That's basically what he said.

But yeah, that is basically what he said.

But that's okay because he it's okay because he knows better than us yes right thank you for noticing if he's a better person than us he gets to do more things than us if he's more important than us he gets to take more important extravagant vacations and we shouldn't be able to take them because we're less we're lesser thank you he's better we're lesser yes i i don't understand that simple are people not understand what don't you understand about it

I wish I really want that press conference from one of these guys.

I want Gavin Newsom to come out and go, look, do you know who I am?

Yeah, you do.

Do I know who you are?

No.

I get to go to the restaurants.

You don't.

When you start knowing,

when we all start thinking about what Bill is doing on a daily basis, then Bill can start going to the fancy restaurants too.

Until then, I'm the governor.

I'm going to the restaurants.

Screw you.

That's what I would like to hear.

I actually want them to just tell us.

That kind of honesty would be refreshing.

It would.

Wouldn't it?

I think I might vote for him in that circumstance.

If someone comes out and gives that press conference, they have my vote.

I'm all about it.

The mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti.

Yeah, Eric Garcetti.

Is telling everybody what's in their best interest.

Here's what he has to say about what's coming up for the holidays.

So tonight, I want to speak as always to you candidly.

Oh, good.

Good.

With the truths and the statistics that I get as soon as I get them, to share them with you.

And to know what we can do in the coming days.

It's as much what you choose not to do as what you do do Do determine what happens here in our beloved hometown.

The choices between us are stark, between health and sickness, between care and apathy,

and yes, between life and death

for too many of the people that we love.

My message couldn't be simpler.

It's time to hunker down.

There you go.

It's time to cancel everything.

And if it isn't essential,

don't do it.

Don't meet up with others outside your household.

Don't host a gathering.

Don't attend a gathering.

Don't.

And following our targeted safer-at-home order, if you're able to stay home, stay home.

That's important.

It's important.

And

the order is a little confusing to the people of Los Angeles.

While the new restrictions and allowable activities mirror those issued by Los Angeles County last week.

So they're the same.

He's just saying them again.

Okay.

I guess with more intensity?

I don't know.

The language and messaging is far stronger than before.

This is not an absolute lockdown, however, as the order spells out a variety of exceptions.

Oh, there.

Cancel everything has some

exceptions.

Exceptions.

By everything, he doesn't mean everything.

No, not everything.

Obviously, not everything.

Right.

Let's say the exceptions still allow people to conduct business, such as buying food.

Okay.

All right.

Obtaining medical care.

Okay.

Yeah.

and going to other essential businesses like automobile services, okay, all right, it's a little bit maybe

okay, but sure, if your car breaks down, you get, you got to get it fixed, and then other essential services like film production.

Well, you can't live without movies, right?

They got to go out.

Now there's no theaters to show them in, but you got to keep producing those movies.

Knowing they're being produced is enough for me.

I really feel good about that.

I feel safer knowing that Hollywood is making movies.

And we should also point out, obviously, many of the city's recreational activities remain open, such as beaches, parks, and public golf courses.

Because golf is among

the most essential.

Yeah.

Especially for people who are our betters.

They need to be able to play golf.

So they have to have that available.

Now, if you like something like loser sport, well, then no, of course.

I mean, they're kicking the San Francisco 49ers out of the state.

They can't even play their home games anymore.

But luckily, executives can go play golf.

And that's what's important.

It is.

People don't realize

COVID is different for people of a certain status.

Those people should be able to go and do the things.

They can assess their own risk.

They can take care of their own lives.

Can you?

No.

No.

Who are you?

Nobody.

Who are we?

We're no ones.

Yes.

We are nobodies.

So we don't get to make those decisions.

We don't get to judge our own risk.

They do.

They can do it for us.

That's why they're so great, Pat.

They can not only do it for themselves, but then they can do it for us, too.

Yeah.

What great people they are to tell us all the things that

we can do on our own.

Or not do.

Or not do.

It's really comforting is what it is.

It's comforting to have somebody looking out for us like that because we're so stupid.

You know,

we're so butt stupid.

We can't figure out what to do on our own.

We need Eric Garcetti or Gavin Newsome to tell us.

And Gavin Newsome.

Did he go to a fancy dinner?

Yes.

Sure.

Were there a lot of people there?

Yes.

Were those people members of the upper echelon of the public health

group there in California?

Sure.

Should they socially distance?

No.

No.

Did I do it outside at least?

No.

No.

No, they did not.

They don't need to.

They don't need to.

They're them.

You're you.

Get it through your head.

They needn't.

even explain it to us.

No, really.

We're fortunate that once in a while they'll condescend to our level and tell us why they've done it.

I believe it was the mayor of San Francisco, for example, that also went to that same restaurant.

You know, the same, the French laundry,

which is, you know,

hundreds and hundreds of dollars per plate.

At least.

Yeah.

But, hey, good for them.

I feel, I'm happy they're enjoying their lives.

That's what I come out of this with.

I don't think about, hey, maybe I should be able to do things too, or maybe I should be able to make my own decisions.

I never think of that.

That would be selfish.

That's selfish.

What I think of is, thank God, these public servants are able to go to these $100, $300, $400

plate dinners and fancy restaurants and gather with their friends in close quarters indoors.

I'm glad they're able to do that so they can relieve the stress of their jobs because you know how stressful it is to tell an entire populace they can't leave their homes.

No, I don't know how stressful it is.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

I can't relate to them because they're so much better than I am.

So what do I know?

You're you.

Nothing.

They're them.

Get it through your head.

Right.

Right.

Thank God.

We can't be expected.

They can't be expected to do what we have to do.

No.

It's just silly to even think of that.

You know what's amazing is that it's become so obvious now that this is what they believe, everything we've just outlined.

Even CNN has noticed it and called it out.

A number of Democratic leaders apologizing or reversing course after multiple occurrences of do as I say, not as I do.

They have been caught not following their own coronavirus guidelines.

The past few weeks brought into relief a pattern of leaders failing to lead by example, asking Americans to make sacrifices that they themselves are unwilling to make and appearing sorry only when they're caught.

Trust is built slowly, but it evaporates faster than reservations at a fancy restaurant.

A lot of these leaders, they are looking across the aisle to blame Republicans who aren't taking mask wearing seriously.

But maybe it's time they also look in the the mirror and ask themselves if that Amuz bouche was really worth it.

Wow.

I will say, if I was going to hear this segment, I would not have expected to see it on CNN.

No way.

And I will say, if I was going to see it on CNN, I would not have expected it from Breonna Keillor.

But good job.

I mean, that's.

Yes.

How about that?

Thank God somebody is stepping up and saying that type of thing because it's so typical of the media to just ignore it.

Yeah.

I mean, they've been doing a great job of it so far.

They didn't even get on Lori Lightfoot when she told everybody not to go to beauty salons.

And then that day she went to a beauty salon.

Her explanation was, well, I care about my hygiene.

Oh,

unlike the unwashed masses.

Right.

Why would someone who,

I mean, these peons of society, do they care about washing their face and cutting their hair?

No.

They don't care if they look like slobs and they do.

Doesn't these people?

See these people walking around in public?

They're all just

embarrassing and dirty.

They're like pigpen from Charlie Brown.

They're walking around.

There's a cloud of dust around all of them.

Okay?

That's what these peons do.

Exactly.

But not Lori Lightfoot, who...

No, she cares.

I mean,

if there's anything Lori Lightfoot has going on, it's a fantastic appearance.

That's a really good observation on your part, Stu.

Thank you.

A really good observation.

She is just a really attractive person.

Yes.

And she has to maintain that at all times.

She's not the strangest-looking person I've seen in my life.

No, no, with bug eyes.

No.

No, she's not.

No, she's not.

No.

She doesn't look like a Muppet to me.

Not at all.

That's why I'm happy she's always able to groom herself as needed.

Again, it's comforting to me to know that she can do that.

Thank you.

Even though we can't.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

Let's go to Matt in Texas.

Hey, Matt, you're on the Glenbeck program with Patton Stew.

Hey, Patton Stewie.

First of all, welcome to Texas, man.

We're proud to have you.

Glad to have you.

Thank you.

Hey, hey, here's the thing.

This whole mass thing, I haven't understood from day one because it seems so simple.

It's such a missed opportunity.

Why didn't they just make it a patriotic thing?

from the very beginning.

Just blame the entire thing on communist China, not the Chinese people, but communist China.

Apparently, CNN would have been upset until today, obviously.

But just blame that because you have people who are motivated by safety first.

And then you have the people like us, the entrepreneurs and whatnot, who aren't motivated quite the same way or motivated by other things.

So the people who are motivated by safety, they're going to wear the mask.

They're going to wear the mask.

But if you make it a patriotic thing and you say, hey, let's show the rest of the world what the free of the freest country can do, no new rules, no new mandates.

We're not going to tell you what to do.

We're going to ask you nicely.

If you love your fellow American, if you want to look out for your older veterans and older citizens, then go ahead and do this.

Wear this mask because we don't have all the facts, but here's what we do know.

What you'll find if you ask people nicely, because trust me, I grew up with the reddest of rednecks in Texas.

And if you ask rednecks nicely to do something, you'll be amazed.

They'll be the ones walking in the stores being like, yeah, they'll be like, hey, buddy, I see you don't have a mask, man.

Don't you love your fellow American?

I got one in the car, man.

It's nice.

My mama made it.

You'll be amazed at how people will go out of their way to take care and look out for their fellow American when you just ask them and leave it up to the goodwill of people.

Probably right.

Appreciate it.

Thanks, Matt.

Certainly a much better approach.

And also, I will say, something that the media could not allow to happen because Donald Trump was saying China.

was at fault here and they couldn't agree with it until now.

Now there's releasing information, you know, they're finding documents and all this wonderful journalism is being done about how bad China was at the beginning of this.

Even though, look, Dr.

Burks was saying that from the beginning.

That they were that China withholding information changed the way we responded to the virus.

We didn't think it was a big deal because China was telling us it wasn't.

I think the problem with that, though, is that the drive to make everybody wear a mask

was

driven by Democrats.

And patriotism is the furthest thing from the mind of a Democrat.

Exactly.

And the left couldn't even think of it.

Yeah.

They don't acknowledge it.

They don't think that way at all.

You see bits and pieces of this, of a good response in the way that they're doing this every once in a while.

Like there were places that were saying, you know what?

A good thing for you to do in this time when things are closed, times are tough, go out to a park.

Go out to a beach.

Stay away from people while you're there.

But, you know, be outside.

Do things outside.

You know, if you're you're going to have a church service, do it outside.

Enjoy the great weather when you have the great weather.

Those sorts of messages would have been good.

What they did yesterday, the CDC yesterday, was also, I think, a good step, which is they shortened the quarantine time.

I went through the quarantine, which I had to do 10 days of quarantine.

Now they're saying seven to 10, right?

Now they're saying it's down to seven for what I would have had seven.

They cut it from 10 to seven and they cut it from 14 to 10 for the other type of quarantine.

The bottom line with that though is what was happening and I will tell you personal experience here, this is true, that people don't go get tested because they don't want to deal with the quarantine.

So they don't want to know that they have it.

We talked to people because we were in contact with people.

We had to call them.

We had to say, hey, sorry, we got it.

Like you should probably go get tested or whatever.

We're supposed to tell everybody that we know or have ever passed in a hallway.

And what the some people were like, okay, yeah, go get tested.

But there was a decent amount of pushback on just like, oh, God, don't tell me that.

I don't, my, my, we had people telling us, hey, well, my, my, uh, son has got a football game and I don't want him to miss that.

And my mom's coming into town.

It's like.

That's the exact time you want to get tested, right?

Like before your mom, who's likely elderly, is coming into town.

You probably want to know if you have COVID.

But it's, look, it is completely disruptive.

But I honestly think if people would just do what the caller was talking about and just be like, look, you know, let's do the best that we can.

We can't shut down society.

And when you try to tell people, restrict yourself out of this problem, just sacrifice all of your life until we get this under control, that is not a message that's going to connect with anybody.

Because even in these places where they have the strict mandates, they're not being followed.

They're not being followed.

People went into quarantine before the mandates started because they were afraid of what was going on and they came out of the quarantine before they ended because they were done with it.

If you can actually take a moment and communicate reliable information consistently without haranguing people, you can get some good results.

But they've been incapable of doing that from the beginning.

The media can't do anything but say, you know what?

If you don't do everything that we say in the order that we say it, it's because you like Donald Trump and you're a racist and you don't care about old people.

You're killing grandma.

And this has been a terrible approach, not only because it's not true and not only because it is just an awful thing to do to your fellow person, but also because it's not effective in any way.

It doesn't work.

People don't listen to it.

Yeah.

They don't trust us.

They don't trust us enough to believe the best about us that we would do what we can.

to avoid infecting anybody, especially the most vulnerable among us.

And if if they would have, yes, in the beginning, said, look, let's protect the most vulnerable among us and let's make sure that those

who are really in danger here don't get infected.

And the rest of you just act responsibly.

Yeah.

I think that would have been received really well.

I think so too.

And we'd be way further ahead of the game who we are.

Who's going to connect with that message?

The caller brought it up in terms of patriotism, but I would also argue like it's a message that would connect with people of faith, right?

To say, like, you know, look, I understand this is annoying, but can you sacrifice for other people?

Like, that is a Christian conservative message.

That's not a liberal message.

That is a Christian conservative message.

And instead, they were like, no, we are welding you in your garage.

And that is not going to help.

And it makes people, you even pointed this out with a vaccine.

If they mandate it, people are going to

be less likely to take it.

Yeah.

And they're going to do it anyway because they want to push you around and force people.

They don't trust us.

Andrew Cuomo will do it anyway.

Yeah, he will.

Because he doesn't, I I mean, it's not about how many people get the virus or how people feel.

It's about Andrew Cuomo making sure he gets a lot of books sold

and acting like he can go on these press conferences and get praised by the media.

And

people need to call that out.

There's been a lot of places.

I mean, look at Florida.

Florida has done really well in comparison to places like New York and has had some of the least restrictive rules.

But I think DeSantis has treated his populace like adults.

He said, look, this is real.

These are real problems.

We have a lot of vulnerable people in Florida, a lot of elderly people in Florida.

Their death rate should be really high.

But he said, look, go out there.

We're going to keep things open.

I mean, I believe they're at 100% capacity now.

Even like in stadiums and stuff, now the stadiums are choosing themselves to hold back capacity.

Yeah, but you notice the games that are played in Florida, if you watch college football,

the games that are played in Florida are much higher attended than anywhere else in the country.

Yeah.

And that's a good sign for the Super Bowl, which is also happened to be being played in Tampa this year.

But it is

planning to go?

Are you trying to not only already have my ticket?

Oh, you do?

Which I bought, I believe, in April.

Oh, wow.

I was like, screw it.

I'm making this happen.

I'm willing the Super Bowl into existence.

But yeah, no,

I'm all set to go.

It's funny.

I've been doing these polls every couple of months on Twitter saying, do do you think the Super Bowl will be played on the day it's supposed to be played with a pretty close to full audience?

And it was, I think when I first asked it, it was like the summer.

And it was like maybe 40% of people said no.

And then it was up to about 80% of people last time I asked it.

I should ask it again today to see.

I mean, because I think quite clearly that the NFL is.

I don't think there's any way they're going to do that.

They're not going to let the full crowd in there.

They may have it on the same day.

Yeah, it'll probably be played.

It does seem like they're doing everything they can.

I watched a football game between the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steel at 3.40 p.m.

on a Wednesday.

So I think they're trying to get that Super Bowl in on time.

Amazing.

Let's go to Justin in New York.

Hey, Justin, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Patton Stuh.

Hey.

Go ahead.

This is where you come in.

Hey, you should try talking now.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

I'm sorry.

I'm trying to get my coat on.

So last night I was watching Tucker Carlson, and they were saying that

they tested some samples for the American Red Cross where there was antibodies

from last March

or April, way before

we were told about this.

So that would indicate that coronavirus has been in our community or in our country a lot longer than what we thought.

Oh, yeah, because they had antibodies from people that were tested clear back in March, when really

those were the first cases that happened in the U.S.

So for people to already have antibodies at that point at that point I see what you're saying yeah well because I think it went back to probably December of 2019 it seems to be the current some people believe November but it does seem to be earlier here in the States

there has been some recent reporting on that

wow but

that wouldn't I mean there I mean I think the first cases came in February right that we knew initially in Los Angeles maybe they were like very travelers yeah from from China and such

but they I know it's it's an interesting thing.

It's tough to really it didn't seem like it was exploding at that time.

If you look at

if you look at all cause mortality, you see a huge spike in March and April.

I mean, it definitely seems like that's when it really hit, but we don't, we don't know exactly.

Look, it's China.

And until

you know, we will find out at some point in like 2060 that China knew way more than we ever knew.

It's like when

when some iron curtain falls and somebody leaks some documents, you find out decades later with these communist regimes what actually happened.

We've seen it over and over again with the Soviet Union as

their country crumbled.

We found out all sorts of stuff that we didn't know.

Well, China is still claiming 86,000 people are infected to this day.

I mean, come on.

And 4,634 people have died.

It's absolutely rude.

I mean, that is asinine.

No, it's not true.

It can't be.

It's got to be 10 times, 100 times, 1,000 times higher than that.

When we know, and probably not for a really long time.

Probably not for a real long time.

For a really long time.

They have a way

to, they seem to be able to just make people disappear quite often.

They're like, hey, did you know they have like a million Uyghurs in camps?

And I was like, how is that new news?

How do you get to a million before anyone notices in the year 2020?

And it's like, well, I just did it.

They just did it.

You know, when you have control over society, it's a lot easier to do these things.

And look, it's also easier to control a freaking virus when you can weld everyone in their garage.

It is, it is when you, when you can, uh,

you can basically ruin the lives of anyone who speaks out about it.

You can hide a lot of cases.

I mean, that's what they did to the doctors who discovered it initially.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Barack Obama.

You know, it's only when he shows his face again that you think, wow, that's right.

This is why I dislike this guy so much.

With all the intensity of a billion white-hot burning sons, I dislike this guy.

Ever since he left the White House, he's been hinting at the idea that the internet and social media have helped create the single biggest threat to the United States democracy, which, by the way, we're not a democracy.

But he also credits his win back in the day to harnessing social media.

And now he is trying to shut down conservative thought on social media even more than it's already being shut down.

He doesn't think that the Twitters and Facebooks of the world are doing enough to shut down conservatives.

He wants, being honest, it's just unbelievable to me the fascism of these people.

And yet, it's supposedly Republicans who are the fascists.

We're the ones who want to hear more opinions, not less.

But let us at least show our side of the argument.

But Obama said, I don't hold the tech companies entirely responsible because this predates social media.

It was already there.

He's talking about, I guess, the thought that he doesn't think is worthwhile, but social media has turbocharged it.

So he wants them to be more responsible and shut down more opinions on the internet.

We have to have a serious conversation about what these business models look like, the algorithms, the mechanisms whereby we can create more of a common conversation.

That means

He wants to hear from people who believe the things he does, but he doesn't want to hear from those who don't.

And that cannot be just a commercially driven conversation.

So obviously government needs to intervene in these social media giants as well and help them shut down conservatives.

This could get really bad if we don't stand up to it.

And it makes no sense, especially for public figures and office holders.

Like they keep saying they're going to censor Donald Trump's tweets.

And, you know, sometimes they'll post warnings with them and all of these things.

It's like, let's just take this scenario for a second.

Let's say somebody gets elected.

Let's say Donald Trump gets elected in 2016.

And two years into his administration, he just turns into an actual racist and starts just tweeting actually racist things, right?

Really, like we'd all agree we're racist.

Let's just say that happened.

And Twitter censors them all because they're racist.

How do we know who to vote for in 2020?

Shouldn't we have the information that

when a public figure, like think of the things, the crazy things that Elon Omar has said online or AOC has said online.

Do you want those things censored?

I don't.

I want her to be saying those things so that I know who these people are and I know that I don't want them elected.

Right?

It's not a why would I want to hide any public figures comments of any sort with the exception of illegal activity?

Right?

Like, I mean, obviously, if someone's literally threatening someone's life or something, you know, that's a totally different story.

But when you talk about like

commentary that you might totally disagree with and think is misleading, people, I mean, like, you know, if people like on the left will say, well, Donald Trump is tweeting these conspiracy theories about the election or conspiracy theories about

COVID or whatever it is.

Well, we need that information to judge whether we want him to be president next time, right?

And when he probably runs in 2024, right?

All these things should be out there for us to be able to judge.

And the idea that Twitter, Facebook should be the arbiters of truth on this is ridiculous.

We did a thing on Studos America on fact-checkers this week, and I was just going back for some classic examples.

And I went back to a PolitiFact fact-check of Glenn back from the Obama era.

And he was talking about John Holdren.

Remember the science advisor?

Yep.

And how at one time he advocated for forced sterile,

I think he said proposed, was his actual word, forced sterilization and mandatory abortions, compulsory abortions.

Right.

Glenn got rated pants on fire for that claim.

Now,

what?

Really?

Pants on fire.

Now, you go back and you read the guy's book, his own book, where he proposes, and I went through the dictionary definition of propose, exactly what he did, proposes for discussion.

He says it just like that.

There needs to be discussion around

whether we should have X, Y, and Z, and goes through those exact proposals that Glenn outlined.

And at the end, they say, well, he never actually did them, and it's unlikely that they'll happen, pants on fire.

It's like, well, that's not what Glenn said.

He said he proposed them, which he did.

He did.

Should have been true.

You want to say mostly true because you don't like this characterization?

You can go there.

To go all the way to not only not false, but pants on fire, their worst rating.

And then these are the people who are making the fact check decisions to see whether your tweet is true or not, whether it gets a warning, whether it gets demonetized, whether it gets

thrown into oblivion and not shared with anyone.

And think of how convenient this is when you come to like a selection bias type of situation.

We've said a thousand things on this show today, right?

Like you could clearly find the overwhelming majority of them are unquestionable, right?

Like we're just talking about basic things that would be rated true.

Then there's some things where we have opinion where they may say true or false.

But if you pick the statements from Republicans that are false, which everyone says something wrong every once in a while, and you give, you rate them false all the time, then you shrink their audience, and then when they say the thing that's true that you don't like, well, you don't have to fact-check that one.

And so that gets to a smaller audience.

The reverse with the left.

They fact-check things that are true.

Obviously, Democrats occasionally, every once in a while, say something that's true.

They pick those things, fact-check them true.

They don't fact-check the ones when they're false.

And then their audience grows, not shrinks.

And when they say the false thing, it goes to more people, which is a terrible outcome, but it's one that these, you know, these organizations propagate all the time.

Yeah.

And Obama

has been pretty prominent over the last few weeks for some reason.

He's getting into

everything.

And he was just

interviewed by Peter Hamby from Good Luck America, had some interesting things to say to the young advocates or activists, people like AOC.

Here's what he had to say.

If you're a young activist today and you believe really passionately in a slogan like defund the police, what is your advice to that activist also knowing that a lot of politicians won't go near that phrase?

It's interesting.

We take for granted if you want people to buy your sneakers that you're going to market it to your audience.

If a musician drops a record,

they're going to try to reach certain audiences speaking to folks where they are.

It's no different in terms terms of ideas.

If you believe, as I do, that we should be able to reform the criminal justice system so that it's not biased and treats everybody fairly.

I guess you can use a snappy slogan like defund the police, but you know you've lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done.

Snappy.

A snappy

slogan.

He

still has the whistle going going on.

That wasn't

apparently

part of the Oval Office

carried with him outside of his presidency as well.

The

snappy.

I love that because he's just admitting the truth here, which is they all believe in these crazy ideas.

The question is only whether you say them or not.

Yep.

Right?

So Ilan Omar says them.

I don't believe that.

Don't

say them.

I don't think he disagrees with Defund the Police.

He just says they don't like the slogan.

He just doesn't like the slogan because it's too snappy snappish and it turns people off because when you tell people what you actually plan to do and that's defund the police

uh you're not supposed to do that he wants it done subversively uh so you don't you you don't uh announce your intentions that clearly and i i keep wondering too like if you defund the police how do you uh how do you implement a mask

mandate

How do you enforce a mask mandate when you've defunded?

It's going to be difficult.

How are you going to keep people locked up in their homes if you defunded the police?

I don't know that I want the answer to that question.

It's probably really scary.

National Guard, Marines.

I don't know.

Somebody else will come to your home.

God only knows, but force will be involved.

But yeah, this goes back to Van Jones when he went into the White House and we went through his older commentaries.

And he said he wanted to drop the radical means to get the radical ends.

He was okay no longer saying he was a communist and no longer being a radical

because at the end, to get the result he wanted, it was smarter to put on a suit and go into a business meeting and convince companies that they should all adopt a replicate of the Green New Deal.

And that's always been what Barack Obama is all about.

Hasn't it?

He won't come out and say, look,

I'm a Marxist, even though he has followed the Marxist theory his entire life.

he said it a long time ago, but he wouldn't say it when he was going into office.

Because he knew that would hurt him politically.

Exactly.

He's covering.

And by the way, he's right on this point.

If you want to, he's smart.

If you want to become, if you want to get something done as a progressive, he is correct that to fund the police scared the hell out of everybody.

It scared the hell out of Democrats.

It scared the hell out of any

fringe Republican who might have voted for Joe Biden.

Those people people were scared because of the things Elon Omar and AOC advocate for, like getting rid of police so that when you call 911, nothing happens.

Like that is like, that's something that you don't need to be some hardcore Republican to believe in that.

So it did scare off some voters.

He's right that the better approach to get to those policies is to not say them out loud.

But it is really freaking revealing.

when you have to hide the thing that you want.

I never have a problem saying I want lower taxes.

I never have to say, oh, well, what we want, of course, is

to defund the

government.

Like, I don't need to say that.

I want lower taxes because I believe people should have more of their own money.

Period.

Like, I don't need to hide it.

I don't need to hide.

Like, people are like, oh, well, let's, you know what?

Let me give you a great slogan.

We are not.

for abortion.

We're for choice.

We are pro-choice.

I have no problem saying I'm against abortion.

I don't, pro-life is a fine summary because it also does

encapsulate the argument.

However, I have no problem saying I'm against abortion.

I don't think women should have the right to choose to kill their children.

Yes, I think that's a bad idea.

And I don't run from it.

I don't need to run from it.

But they do.

They do.

Because they're radicals.