Best of The Program | Guests: Bill O’Reilly & Robert Epstein | 10/30/20

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Amazon has banned ads for a new book about the risks of transgenderism, “Irreversible Damage.” Glenn Greenwald, co-founder of The Intercept, resigned as the site continues to censor reports on Joe and Hunter Biden. Bill O’Reilly breaks down the week’s biggest news stories, including UPS finding Tucker Carlson’s missing Hunter Biden documents. Dr. Robert Epstein gives a great update on his Big Tech election monitoring system and previews what its found so far.
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Hey, Stu, it's time for the podcast.

I love podcasts, Glenn.

I listen to this one all of the time.

By the way, we should point out after that intro with the amazing

broadcasting abilities you've just shown that you're going into the Radio Hall of Fame today.

Yes.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah, it is.

Thank you.

I don't understand the choice.

I don't either.

Wow.

Lobbied against it.

It's really cheapened the whole Hall of Fame in my eyes

now that I'm being inducted.

But you can actually listen to your...

You did like an acceptance, you're doing an acceptance speech of some sort.

And so anyway, it's going to be very cool.

And it happens tonight, 7 p.m.

Eastern.

You can listen to it on Blaze Radio

or you can check it out on the iHeart radio app.

Yeah, just look for Radio Hall of Fame or listen to SiriusXM, the Triumph channel.

But check it out if you're interested at all.

Now, on today's program, we talk a little bit about the missing papers that seem to have gone missing with Tucker Carlson.

Shipping problems happen.

Yeah, I mean, is that really?

Really?

Shipping problems happen.

Huh.

Because that's never happened.

We also have the CEO of the Babylon Bee on.

He has won

his argument with Facebook, but we talk about how even comedy is being censored by these fact-checkers at Facebook and Twitter.

We also have Mike Lee on.

We talk a lot about the censorship.

So much to to talk about on today's program.

Here it is.

You're listening to the best of the Glenbeck program.

This is the Glenbeck program.

It's Halloween weekend.

All right, I don't, I have no idea why that.

I was laughing like that.

But Stu is here.

We have decided that there is nothing more scary on Halloween weekend than just reading the news.

Listen to the, by the way, welcome, Pat Gray.

Thank you.

From Pat Gray Unleashed, the podcast you can get wherever you listen to your podcast.

Stu,

tell me the story.

This is Abigail Schreier.

She's an author.

She wrote a book entitled Irreversible Damage, the Transgendered Craze Seducing Our Daughters.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay.

Oh, my gosh.

Controversial book.

As the number one Facebook super spreader, as named by, I don't remember what fact checker,

I just have to say, this is stew.

When the trial comes, this was all stew.

I mean, your name's on the show.

Your name's on the trophy.

Oh, they're stupid.

They made a mistake.

Here it goes.

Think we don't have a serious problem with censorship in America?

Here's what it's like to write a book that takes the entirely common common sense view, supported by dozens of experts and most Americans, that gender transition among teen girls is risky.

And listen to this.

It's risky.

It's risky.

It's risky.

And should only proceed with caution.

Should proceed with caution.

Not, no, no, no, not.

Don't do it.

Not, don't do it.

Yeah.

Just proceed with caution.

Yes.

Yeah.

You shouldn't be cautious about that.

Exactly right.

You shouldn't be cautious.

Thank you, Pat.

Why would anybody be cautious about changing their gender?

I don't get that.

Right now, now the pat gray unleashed youtube channel is exploding in popularity is being recommended like crazy by

all clan members

oh wait no no no no you're all clan members you're all woke people

students america is being suppressed and they're promoting pat gray unleashed at this point which is weird because stew is the gay character on the show and now i'm being promoted and now you guys are being suppressed wow okay all right okay so she says she's writing she wrote this book about teen girls whether they're going to have transitions.

You should be a little careful about it.

That's the premise.

Amazon blocked my publisher from sponsoring ads for my book while allowing ads for books that pushed the contrary view.

That is, books that argue that gender transition for teens is without serious risk.

All of the legacy media outlets refused journalists' requests to review my book.

Even Kirkus, which reviews 10,000 titles per year, declined to review it, even though it was the number one book in several Amazon categories based on sales.

Joe Rogan had me on his show.

Spotify has now held 10 meetings with employees to debate whether to pull the episode about a book that presents the mainstream idea that all this gender transition for teens is too much, too fast, with too little oversight.

Hey, Joe,

how's that $100 million?

Is it keeping you warm at night?

I bet it's still awesome.

It's still awesome.

All right.

You're right.

Hey, Joe, I think I'm related to you.

Can I borrow some money?

Sean Scott, member of the National Association of Science Writers online forum, heard about my book and mentioned it on the forum.

For this, he was expelled from the online forum.

I have the emails.

Many of the NASW members were quietly horrified.

Disturbed that more people weren't learning of the risks of gender transition, parents dug into their own pockets to purchase a billboard to get the word out.

Encouraged that they managed one billboard, parents started to GoFundMe to pay for more billboards across the country.

GoFundMe, which allows tons of

teens to raise money for gender surgeries, immediately shut the parents' account down.

Common sense debate is being strangled by woke orthodoxy.

My book contains not one word of hate.

I

explored a medical issue and offered a considered view.

How many other issues have you never heard about?

How many journalists have already abandoned the pursuit of truth?

Try this one.

Try this one.

Did you see what happened happened with

Glenn Greenwald?

No.

Oh, really?

Do you remember he started, what was his media company?

The one he started himself was The Intercept.

Was The Intercept.

Okay, so he's writing a story on The Intercept about.

I kind of done my homework here, and it looks like these Joe Biden emails

and Hunter Biden, it looks like they're real.

And the FBI, we found out, is investigating the Bidens for money laundering.

And so this is actually kind of a big story.

There's still many questions that need to be answered, but

we need to explore that.

He wrote it.

His own

company

said you can't post it.

His own editors in his own company.

That'd be like me.

Unbelievable.

And the Blaze saying you can't post that.

Go screw yourself.

Right.

Right.

And you've talked about this before.

You don't run the Blaze.

Yeah, I don't.

So it's kind of a similar situation in that, like, I don't know if he sold it at some point to someone, but he has a, so he has a contract.

And in his contract, according to him, he has the right to write whatever he wants without any editorial oversight.

You know, it's his free.

He started the freaking company himself, so he gets to do whatever he wants, basically.

An understandable clause to have.

Also, he has a clause that specifically says if the intercept does not want to run one of his pieces, he can bring it somewhere else.

Well, they not only blocked him from posting it on his own site, they then blocked him from taking it to any other site.

That resulted yesterday in him resigning from his own company.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

And he released it.

He released it last night and he explained all of it.

He released the story.

They tried to squash him and say, you can't post this anywhere else.

It's like, screw you.

And he released it on his own website.

And now

Glenn Greenwald, the guy who did,

you know, what's Edward Snowden?

Edward Snowden.

Now all of a sudden, where's the left now?

Is he a bad guy?

Is he a bad guy now?

Yeah.

I mean,

he was the bravest journalist ever.

Now he's a bad guy.

Elijah Schaefer from The Blaze, who goes into Philadelphia in the middle of a riot, one of the only reporters who bothered to cover it, gets assaulted while he's there.

Is there any pushback from these journalist organizations that are always saying that Donald Trump is saying the press is the enemy of the state?

They get all the enemy of the people.

They get all upset about that, but they don't get upset about an actual journalist actually getting actually punched in the actual face.

They say nothing.

Greenwald explained his reasoning behind the theory, calling Trump a godsend to those previously struggling in the media.

He said Trump's presidency has enabled them to elevate everyone's fear level and crown the president as a grave threat to everything that is good in modern society.

According to Greenwald, this fear hyping is not just reserved to the president, but for the entire movement behind him.

Make sure you understand what he just said.

It's not just the president.

It is anyone who supports or supported the president.

Believe me, You are on a list if the Marxists take over.

Co-founder of of The Intercept said the media tends to label those within the Trump movement as racist and hardcore white

supremacy domestic terrorists.

Trump's presidency, according to Greenwald, launched a plethora of ultra-successful media companies based on this fear narrative.

Even if Trump loses the election, they're not going to go back now to talking about Joe Biden because they know people are going to cancel their subscriptions and turn the TV channel again.

They're going to continue to say, maybe not Trump, but at least his movement still poses an existential threat.

He noted that there is a kernel of truth to this narrative, but assured viewers that the media will inflate it so wildly that any questioning of Joe Biden, even with Trump out of the picture, will be viewed and stated as endangering American liberties and helping fascism.

This is Glenn Greenwald.

I don't know know if

I don't know if your friends and neighbors are paying attention, but liberty,

liberty, freedom,

the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.

There are two groups, one that believes in the Bill of Rights.

And I'm not saying those are Republicans.

I'm saying that there's, there's got to be 60% of Americans that believe in the Bill of Rights.

It's sad to say that it might only be 60%,

but that 60%

better understand

what you are up against.

You know, I got up this morning and I'm actually afraid of

what this

sentence might mean

because there are times that I, I just, I don't know America anymore.

I don't.

And there are times that I have been so disappointed

with people

because

I thought we were the

land of the free and home of the brave.

But courage, men's hearts are failing them.

But I want you to know when I saw that

I'm number one

on the list of super spreaders of dis and misinformation on this election on Facebook, that's what they claim now, I'm the number one super spreader.

When I saw that, I thought, and so it begins,

I will tell you that they will

target our sponsors in such a way that our sponsors will find it unbearable to be able to stay on the air with us.

I don't know if this happens now or in the next five years or eight years, but I'm telling you it's coming, and I think it's coming soon, but I'm always wrong with timing.

But they are coming after our sponsors, and they will come after you.

If you subscribe to anything I've ever done,

you are going to be on a list.

And now is the point of choosing.

It really is.

And it's not just me, it's Ben Shapiro, it's all of us.

Now is the time of of choosing.

Are you going to stand

or are you going to fold?

We are going to stand.

I will

not remain silent.

If it means I stand under a tree in an open field and I am only talking to two people, I will never

stop talking about the founder's dream.

I will never stop talking about true American history.

I will never

stop defending liberty and freedom and the rights of all men, no matter what their color is.

I don't care if I'm surrounded by Nazis or Marxists.

I don't care if it's if that point of view has been banned by every government institution on the planet.

I don't care.

I know who I am.

A long time ago,

a long time ago, my life was threatened for the first time.

And when that happens to you, and it is serious,

you make a choice.

I've made my choice.

I urge you to make yours.

Who will you stand with?

I hope,

I hope that we will not lose any listeners or subscribers or anything else.

I hope

that the opposite will happen.

Because courage is contagious.

And there is powerful strength in numbers.

And it is a flaming sword

that is called truth.

The best of the Glen Bank program.

Mr.

Bill O'Reilly is joining us now.

Bill O'Reilly is the author of Killing Crazy Horse.

Oh, my gosh, the violence in all of Bill's books is just too much to take.

Welcome, Bill.

How are you, sir?

Becky drinking a little of the brew of the witch's brew.

I am, I am.

I am.

I'm sipping into that.

Yeah.

You know, I got my Glenn Beck costume for Halloween, but I'm having trouble keeping the goatee on.

Really?

Yeah.

Really?

It keeps falling off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a spooky thing.

Well, thank you for mentioning Killing Crazy Horse, number four

on Sunday on the New York Times list every 10 weeks.

All righty.

Bill, I want to.

Wait, wait, back.

No, no, no, that's great stuff.

You promised to read it.

You promised that.

I still haven't gotten a copy of it.

We went through this the last eight times I talked to you.

We send them, and your staff picks them off and puts them up on eBay.

Liar, you're now accusing my staff of stealing.

No, seriously, Bill, they only do that with good books.

So that proves to me you didn't send it.

Anyway,

Bill, let's talk about what we're facing next week.

First,

how would you deal

if

we were both still at Fox?

How do you think we would be dealing with the journal?

How would the journalists be dealing with the Hunter Biden documents at this point?

I think the same way.

I mean, Fox is covering it,

basically saying what's in the public arena

because

why wouldn't they?

You know, why wouldn't any news organization tell the people who are watching or reading about the story?

It's mind-boggling that there's almost a total blackout.

Did you see Glenn Greenwald was

on his thought?

I mean, what What do you think of that?

Well, it's the same old, isn't it?

So, you know, people ask me, what do you do as far as your news consumption?

Well, the Wall Street Journal is covering the Biden situation, so I get that delivered every day.

My local paper on Long Island Newsday, it's not worth it.

I just get that so I know where I can buy some brisket cheap.

And I get the New York Post, and they're big on trying to hammer Biden into

the swamp.

So I get a pretty good idea, but if people in America don't know by now that the American press, the corporate media, has fallen apart, that it's corrupt and beyond redemption, then they're never going to know, Beck, because it happens day in and day out right before all of our eyes.

The FBI has been investigating Hunter Biden and his business associates for money laundering since 2019.

Didn't know that.

James Rosen broke that story for Sinclair.

So if the FBI started investigating in 2019, I figure about 2030, maybe we'll get a little something on it.

You know, look, it's not Efren Zimblis Jr.

anymore.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

It's really not.

So if people are confident that the FBI is going to really peddle to the metal on stories that make the American government look bad, unless it's about Trump, all right, then you're again naive.

So the FBI is investigating, so what?

The Durham report was supposed to be out in May.

Where's that?

You know, we are living in an age of unbelievable corruption.

And it's just lucky for the American public that Beck and O'Reilly are still walking.

Well,

you know, kind of.

One of us.

Or O'Reilly and Beck.

So here's the thing.

Here's the thing, Bill.

We are looking at

an election that is truly about the end of freedom, the end of the American dream as we have always known it,

and a return, really, in many ways, to the Dark Ages,

or

a launch into

some sort of dystopian authoritarian rule where you cannot have a different opinion.

And

truth or the pursuit of truth will be squashed.

And America looks pretty split.

Looks pretty split.

As Ed McMahon once said, you are correct, sir.

Okay?

And it's on display at college campuses right now.

If you want to see what your life's going to be in

three years, just wander on down to Michigan State University or Harvard and just watch because that's what it's going to be.

You are not allowed to say words.

You are not allowed to dissent.

You go to the University of Oklahoma, just get in a car and take a drive up.

Ann Coulter, no, no, you can't have her

because

it puts people

at unease.

They're uneasy.

They need a safe space.

All of this goes.

I think that's actually going to change.

I don't think this is going to be about putting people at ease anymore.

I think this is

a dangerous virus that has to be stopped.

This is

just hate speech, and they must be stopped.

It's no longer going to be even a shove.

We're entering the shoot area.

But who's going to stop them right now?

Because the cancel culture is so prevalent that if you try to stop them, you're fired or you're canceled.

So what we have here is it would take a perfect storm for our rights to disappear next Wednesday.

That means that the Senate, the House and the Presidency would all have to go to the Democrats.

If that happens, and it's possible, we're all in big, big trouble.

So for two years, there's going to be terror in the United States.

And then the idiots who vote for Biden are going to rise up and say, gee,

I'm about 30% lighter in my take-home pay.

I'm paying more for everything on a theory that the United States is somehow going to save everybody from climate change when India and China are not going to cooperate.

So, we'll destroy our economic infrastructure in the hope that we can save everyone.

And now I got 30% less money in the bank.

So, two years from now, there'll be a reaction.

But, your question is a good one.

Why can't any intelligent person

see the danger that's looming?

And it's not not personal.

I mean, you may despise Donald Trump all day long, all right?

And I understand that.

I know the guy better than anybody.

But if you're going to vote to put people in who think America is bad, evil, that's what these people think.

Kyle Harris thinks the country is evil and wants to destroy our traditions.

That's what he believes.

Joe Biden is so befuddled, he doesn't even know when it's dinner time.

They just put the jell-o out on the table and Joe goes to town.

He goes to town.

What is your prediction for next week?

All right.

So I can't do this.

I have to do it step-by-step back because I am a methodical

journalist,

fact-based guy.

Got it.

All right.

Number one, Biden will win the popular vote because California is going to vote for him three or four to one.

Okay?

So popular vote is not even in play because of California.

Number two, Trump will win probably 65% of the American counties, maybe more,

maybe 70% of the individual counties.

So that the folks spread out over this great country will vote for Trump more than Biden.

But that may not play out in the Electoral College

because you've got Pennsylvania, which is really it.

I think Trump will win Florida, all right?

But Pennsylvania, very, very dicey.

But here's something interesting.

Obama and Biden are actually going to Michigan tomorrow.

Now, all the polls have Biden ahead in Michigan by like 98 points.

There are three people going to vote for Trump in Michigan.

Well, why would Obama and Biden,

particularly when Biden's going to have to wear earmuffs up there,

why would they go if they're winning so big?

Same thing in Minnesota.

So Biden's going to, after he gets frostbite in Michigan, zip on over to Minnesota where it's colder.

But he's supposed to be winning Minnesota by 85 points.

So that sends a signal to me that, hey, you know, we're being misled once again.

So I can't do the Electoral College now.

Maybe on Monday on billorilly.com, I'll be able to.

I was right last time, as you know, and have said many times, and I appreciate that.

O'Reilly was right.

You know, the guy is an amazing analyst.

Well, we got the first, we said the first sentence.

The rec's, the rest of it

is a figment of your imagination.

So, Bill,

we've been told now that you cannot

make a call, that nobody's going to make a call.

This is going to be

the strangest election ever, but one that America should be ready for.

And they're just not going to be making any calls or calling a, you know, naming a president, which has only happened once in my lifetime.

But now I guess we're all supposed to accept that it's normal.

I don't think that's going to happen.

I think they'll make the calls.

They'll have their little desks.

All the TV news operations have their election desks, and the pinheads that sit there and analyze the data.

And if they think that Delaware is going to go for Biden, they're going to say it.

There'll be a little confusion because of the lag on mail and votes.

Now, last time we talked, you said Texas might go to Biden, and I'm still waiting for that bet.

Texas will go to Trump.

From your lips to God's ear, I mean, I just

likes me, but I'm not sure.

I'm actually really pissed at you, Bill, but that's for another show.

I don't know what happened there.

But, Bill, here is the

here's the thing.

Betto

lost by only two points in the last election here in Texas.

But that's South Texas.

I mean, South Texas is different than the rest of the state.

And so the internal polling, and you know, I don't get access to as much of it as I did when I was a big shot on Fox, but I do get some.

And

I don't think Kamala is going to whip into Texas, I think, tomorrow.

All right, because the Democrats feel, well, we've got a one in five chance there, so we'll send Kamala.

But if they thought they were going to win Texas, Biden would be down there, Beck.

All right.

I mean, that's the key.

You've got to watch where the candidates go.

And here's something else very fascinating.

How much time we got?

We've had plenty of time, more than enough time for anything interesting.

So

where's Michelle?

Where's Michelle?

Obama?

This is the strangest thing in the world.

Here's the most popular Democrat in the country by far, Michelle Obama.

Okay?

And she makes one public service announcement on the internet, not even on broadcast TV, on the internet.

I'd vote for Joe.

And then she disappears.

Meanwhile, her husband, Barack, he's running all over the place.

Where's Michelle?

Very, very strange.

Well, what do you think that means?

I don't know.

I have no blanking clue, but I'm stunned that Michelle Obama isn't trying to rally the African-American vote to Biden.

I am stunned.

Is it possible she's guarding the room that they've locked Hunter Biden in?

I guess that might be possible, Beck, but I don't think I wouldn't go with that one.

All right, okay, all right.

Well, okay.

I mean, you're a journalist.

I'm I'm not, so I'm the guy that raises the questions based on reality.

Right.

And I'm, I'm sitting here going, where is Michelle Obama in this whole campaign?

So, you know that

very, very spooky, as they say, on Halloween.

Um,

Al Gore was

able to, I think, claim victory because the networks had called Florida for him early.

And so they legitimized it.

You know, you say that they're going to start calling states.

Do you trust their calls for states now anymore?

I don't think I think the networks on TV are in so much trouble

they can't afford to screw up.

So they will err on the side of caution.

Since when have they wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

When have they adopted that stance?

Well, because the polls say that the second most hated institution in the country is the media.

They all know they're going to dive after Tuesday.

They're all starting to lay off

massive amounts of people.

Jeff Zucker, the president of CNN, is going to get fired.

They know what's coming, Beck.

What's coming is Armageddon for the broadcast news industry.

Even if there is a Biden win?

It doesn't matter.

Because

people know they're not getting the truth on any of them.

George George Stephanopoulos is the chief news correspondent for ABC.

George Stephanopoulos, little Georgie, I thought he should have done that interview with Biden in short pants.

He should have had short pants on, Georgie.

He sat there with his thumb in his mouth and asked nothing.

And he's the chief correspondent.

Leslie Stahl, who I've known for decades, and I respect Leslie Stahl, all right, looks into the camera and says there's no verification of spying on the Trump campaign after the Inspector General of the Justice Department issues a 50-page report that says there was massive corruption in that, and Leslie Stahl says that to the President of the United States, and you think people are going to believe these organizations going forward?

They're not.

Well, when I mean, we have we've crossed the Rubicon, and we've only got 30 seconds, but haven't we crossed the Rubicon on Facebook and Google and Twitter to where

you know you just go

about that when we get back.

All right.

I mean, when did I lose control of the show?

Are you in the Radio Hall of Fame, Glenn?

I don't.

I mean, I thought you could make your, but I guess not.

I mean, I don't think it's really official yet.

I wouldn't count it.

They've probably changed their mind by next year.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and don't forget, rate us on iTunes.

We are following what big tech is doing to this election.

Dr.

Robert Epstein is with us now.

He's an author, editor, longtime psychology researcher, and professor, distinguished scientist who is passionate about educating the public about advances in mental health and behavioral

sciences.

He was the editor-in-chief of Psychology Today.

He is currently the senior research psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology and contributing editor for Scientific American Mind.

He is also the founder and director emeritus of the Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies in Massachusetts.

Wow, that's a mouthful.

In other words, he's accomplished and he knows what he's talking about.

Doctor, welcome to the program.

Glenn, you and your audience have

accomplished the impossible.

I just can't even tell you what you have done.

Without you, we would have nothing.

So, what is it that you are, what is it you were able to do?

Because I know you had a huge project you wanted to do, and for some reason, none of the big money wanted to step up.

So, our audience stepped up and funded it.

What is it that you do have now?

What is the scale of this?

Well, because of very generous donations from more than 7,000 of your listeners and viewers,

we have set up

a much larger monitoring system than we've ever set up before.

We have now

more than 600 field agents,

all anonymous,

and all in the swing states and even in the swing counties in the swing states where all the action is.

And

through their computers, with their permission we are monitoring not just Google Google Bing Yahoo YouTube Facebook and we are getting

we're preserving hundreds and hundreds of thousands of ephemeral experiences they're called as those are these quick fleeting experiences that these companies use to manipulate people

and we're we're actually recording them normally they're lost forever see that's the whole problem you can't go back in time and see what search results, or news feeds, or messages from Facebook.

You can't go back in time and see what these things were,

but we are actually capturing them.

We're basically, with permission, looking over the shoulders now of more than 600 people, all registered voters, very diverse group of Democrats, Republicans, Independents.

And we're capturing hour by hour by hour, 24 hours a day, a massive amount of data.

And even though it's, you know, the election hasn't come yet, we've actually started analyzing what's coming in.

Are you far enough along to

be

confident of any of your findings?

Yes.

I mean, what we're doing now at the moment, analysis-wise, of course, is preliminary.

The numbers will change to some extent

because

we've captured more than a million web pages, but by Tuesday, probably we might have two million.

But yes, we are getting some numbers that we're confident of, and they're very disturbing.

Can you give me any clue as to the kinds of things that are happening?

You don't have to, I don't want to, I mean, like, what should people look for?

How could you notice this stuff, or can you even notice it?

Oh, you can't see it.

You cannot cannot see what's going on.

Let's put it this way.

Let's just say that today Facebook was sending messages reminding people to register if they haven't registered, urging them to vote.

And let's say those messages were going, let's say, just to people who lean left, which I do.

How would you know that?

No one would know that there was targeting of that sort unless we're monitoring what we're doing.

And you're monitoring, and you are, let's just say, for an example, you might be capturing that.

We might be.

It's possible.

Yeah, it is.

I can't really

just say.

Yeah, but

we could be capturing possibly YouTube sequences.

And YouTube sequences are unbelievably powerful because if you're undecided on some issue and then YouTube keeps feeding you videos using their upnext algorithm, they just keep feeding you one video after another.

You know, 70% of the videos people watch now on YouTube are suggested by Google's top secret up next algorithm.

70%.

And we might be capturing YouTube sequences suggested by their algorithm.

We might be.

We might be, but we don't.

We wouldn't want to say.

Let me ask you this.

What you're seeing, is it on par with

I think 2018 was worse than 2016.

Is it on par of that or is it worse?

Let me give you just a couple of actual numbers.

Now, this is tentative.

Normally, I wouldn't release this information before the election, but there's a reason why I'm doing it now.

Why?

What's the reason?

The reason is because I want these companies to know that they're being watched just like they watch us.

Why?

Because

maybe,

possibly, they'll back off

on

a couple of these manipulations and we'll detect that.

We will detect that.

And that will prove the power of monitoring to maintain the integrity of the free and fair election, to protect democracy.

And maybe we can get them to back off.

That is the whole point of me going public now.

And I can give you a couple of numbers

which

are disturbing.

Yeah, okay, go ahead.

All right.

First of all, we're finding on

Google search results, looking at the news sources that they're showing people, we are finding liberal bias in either nine or ten of the search results that they're showing

everybody,

everybody, I have to emphasize this, in fact, in one of the reports that we just generated, the conservatives were getting

more liberally biased content than the liberals were getting.

Yes.

Now this is, by the way, mind-blowing when you think about how Google defends itself, because they always say, oh, it's the users.

Correct.

Just giving them what they want to see.

It's the users.

If it's the users, I'm sorry, Google, but if it's the users, then conservatives would be getting

liberally biased content.

Correct.

They're getting every single demographic we've looked at is getting liberally biased content.

And as I say in one report, we're seeing conservatives getting content that's more liberally biased than the content that liberals are getting.

You're a behavioral scientist kind of guy.

What does that mean?

What are they trying to do with that?

That means that these people are so arrogant,

so out of control, that they're basically trying to push everyone.

You know, maybe they can grab a few conservatives.

See what I mean?

They're trying to push everyone in one direction.

Now, how do I know that they're doing this deliberately?

Because all the whistleblowers, and there's a new one now from Google who's still working there, all the whistleblowers, Zach Voorhees

out with 950 pages of documents.

Yep, we've had them on.

And a video in which the head of YouTube is telling her staff, we're changing our algorithm.

on YouTube so to push up content that we think is good content and push down content, you know, like your content, that we don't like.

And that's on video.

So we know that this is deliberate from the whistleblowers and the leaks, but we are capturing massive amounts of data on a scale that's never been done before.

They're basically confirming what the whistleblowers are telling us.

This is deliberate.

These people are arrogant.

They're out of control.

This is, in my opinion, evidence of large-scale election rigging sufficient to have shifted this year 15 million votes in one direction.

Now, I happen to like that direction, but

I think we should not allow this.

These companies are doing this around the world.

Robert, this is the one thing that you and I, that

I first noticed about you that I really liked.

I have no problem.

If Donald Trump loses and it's a fair election and that is truly the will of the people, I will vehemently disagree with it and I will do everything I can to fight for the constitutional norms.

But I have a real problem with manipulation, stealing of election, all of this stuff.

And I think most Americans are there.

If it's really left into the hands of the American people, as Thomas Jefferson said,

trust the people.

They will make mistakes, but they will figure it out in the end and they will fix it.

We're not going that direction.

In fact, with this kind of manipulation, we may never be able to fix it and get freedom back.

The problem is so much worse than what you just said.

Oh, my God.

Because

what's going to happen is the Democrats are going to sweep Washington, which I'm totally in favor of.

And then all the investigations that are ongoing against Google and some of the other companies, but mainly Google, all those investigations by the DOJ, the FTC, the FCC,

they will all shut down.

Okay, so let me ask you this question, because I've talked to people who say the exact same thing that you just did.

I'm all a favor of the Democrats sweeping.

However, it will mean tyranny.

I don't want to ask you how you're voting or anything else because I really don't care.

It's none of my business.

And I appreciate that you're on the other side.

But are there a lot of people that say, oh, this is going to lead to tyranny?

I just don't like Donald Trump so much or, you know, the GOP so much that I just can't vote.

I've got to vote for Democrats, even though the Uber left is in bed with all of these tech companies.

Well, see, now you're using kind of lingo that like, you know, makes me, it creeps me out.

Okay.

Really?

Okay.

Because I don't think that I

but

let's not have a political discussion.

Okay, that's fine.

That's fine.

That's fine.

Let's just

look at the nature of this particular problem, which is what I'm focusing on.

I am not a Trump supporter.

It is absolutely unacceptable to me, and it should be to every single person in this country to have companies like this that are not accountable to us.

You see, when we elect people, they're accountable to us.

But these were not elected people.

You know I heard Senator Cruz a couple days ago kind of shouting at the head of Twitter saying who the hell elected you that's the problem here these companies are not accountable to us but they have these new powers to shift millions of votes we're not talking about you know mail tapering which might shift a few hundred votes here and there okay and by the way it's a competitive that's a competitive process so worries about it really

We're not talking about Russia and Iran maybe possibly placing ads, fake ads, fake news stories, shifting a few thousand votes.

We're talking about our own companies shifting over time millions of votes with no one knowing that this is occurring, and except for what I'm doing,

no paper trail.

for authorities to trace.

If anyone thinks that people that think differently politically can't work together, I would like to introduce them to our relationship.

I am proud to stand with you, Dr.

Epstein, and I hope you have the goods

on them in such a stunning way after this election so we can possibly put a dent in it.

Thank you so much.

Absolutely.

Thank you, Glenn.

You have no idea what you and your listeners and viewers have accomplished.

It's unbelievable.

Thank you so much.

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