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Also, the press continues to deny any of this.

They're throttling the New York Post.

We have the op-ed editor on with us to tell you what's actually happening behind the scenes at Facebook, who who is hiring Chinese

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So, Rob Armari

is with us.

He is the op-ed editor of the New York Post.

He was with us earlier this week or last week talking about being banned and still not having access.

The New York Post still doesn't have access to their Twitter feed, and they won't get it until they retract the Hunter Biden story, which is looking more and more

like the biggest scandal in American political history

every single day.

But there's a new angle on this.

So, Rob, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn.

You broke some news yesterday that

you can't really tweet or retweet because headlines don't tell the full story.

You can read the article on Twitter before retweeting.

You have the story, Meet Your Chinese Facebook.

Tell me about it.

The headline, just so people can find it, because social media is so screwy in terms of how it treats the New York Post,

and that's a separate, shameful story.

The headline is Meet Your Chinese Facebook censors.

Yep.

And

the gist of the story is that last week, after observing what Facebook was doing to the New York Post, a former Facebook high-ranking insider got in touch with me and shared a number of things.

But among the things he shared was

an opportunity to shed light on the actual mechanics of how Twitter does its censorship.

And what he's doing is

wait, wait, Twitter or Facebook?

I apologize, Facebook.

What it reveals to me, as I argue in the article, is the most sophisticated censorship mechanism possibly in human history.

And it's a team at Facebook called Hate Speech Engineering.

George Orwell, Call Your Office.

And it's a team that is mostly based in Seattle, Washington.

And this insider

shared with me the directory of the staffers who work on that team.

And he noted, and we verified using LinkedIn,

that at least six of these team members are Chinese nationals.

What the team does is they basically use machine learning, teaching computers to do things on their own without the need for direct human action.

So they use machine learning and what's called neural networks.

to

rejigger the news feed that you get.

So you have Glenn's Facebook feed, what you see, what all your friends have shared.

What this team does is ensure that certain content goes up on top, and for that, they get discretionary bonuses according to the insider.

But it also ensures that certain other content shows dead last.

Like, for example, in this case, it seems like this is a mechanism they use, a New York Post story that's damning

about

Hunter and Joe Biden three weeks out before an election.

Now,

let me ask you this.

These are people that they're PhDs and they have H-1B visas.

So they're coming in from China.

Are they experts in the Chinese censorship programs?

Well, we don't know.

What I looked up is,

and out of courtesy to Facebook, when we reached out to them, we didn't share their names, even though we have their names.

We have a lot of information about them that you can access once you know their names and where they work.

But we didn't share that just out of courtesy to Facebook.

But

what we did find is that

at least one of them used to work for Huawei, which is a

Chinese tech conglomerate that is closely bound up with the Chinese regime.

A lot of them went to universities like University of Nanjing, the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

These are all you know, it's not like here where it's like, you know, I don't know, George Washington, you or what have you.

These are all

state-based, state-supported

entities, and they have deep links to the Chinese security apparatus.

So even though we don't know exactly whether they did censorship for the Chinese regime, what we do know is that the institutions that train them

are not our state entities.

And another one worked for, I don't know, the signal service, signal telegraph service for the

Chinese Railway, again, a state enterprise.

And look, because they're H-1Bs,

a lot of tech companies hire H-1B employees, Indians, Chinese, Eastern Europeans.

It's not all nefarious.

A lot of them, to be honest, just we have nothing against the fact that there's Chinese people working at Facebook.

A lot of them just want to

share in the American dream and settle in this country.

But because they're H-1Bs, it means that some of them could go back.

So another worry is, will they then

take back the techniques for social control that they perfected and learned at Facebook to the most repressive society when it comes to this stuff and help Xi Jinping further repress the free flow of information in his own society.

This is so

evil.

Creepy.

I mean, it is just evil what is happening right now.

And we see it

in what they're doing to

you and the Post and your reporting.

We know now, we have it from several, multiple sources, including a guy who was the CEO of the Biden firm that was, you know, putting the Chinese deal together, confirming that that email is true, that the big guy is Joe Biden.

We have all that, and yet it's still being called a conspiracy theory, and you're not able to get your accounts back on social media.

Now, bear in mind, the gentleman you're talking about is a U.S.

Navy veteran,

served four years and then got into business, including probably to his regret with Hunter Biden.

And

he has

come clean with a statement saying,

to the extent that I have made political contributions, which are small, I've made them to Democratic causes and candidates.

So he's not some Republican, this is Hunter Biden's business partner.

He's not some Republican figure.

And he's saying,

as a patriot, as someone who served in the U.S.

military and the armed forces, it offends me that people talk about this stuff as Russian disinformation.

Because

it suddenly his reputation, right, when you talk about something that was a Russian conspiracy.

So he just said,

because of my conscience, and I'm paraphrasing, but basically my conscience tells me to come out clean and say, this is not Russian disinformation.

A lot of stuff...

that was anti-Trump the past four years that Facebook and Twitter never censored truly was Russian disinformation not least the fate the the famous infamous dossier, the P-tape, and so forth.

It was concocted by the Russians.

This guy is saying, you know, the stuff that the Post reporter is not Russian disinformation.

And I think a lot of pundits, reporters, not to mention big tech CEOs, owe the New York Post a groveling apology.

Not that I'm holding my breath.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Well, try this on for size.

Yesterday, the DNI confirmed

that Iran,

the world's leading sponsor of terrorism, has interfered with this election to damage Donald Trump by sending threatening emails to Democratic voters while posing as the Proud Boys.

So, CNN, first of all, did not cover this.

They didn't cover it.

This is the federal government saying, here's the evidence.

They've gotten voter registration information and they have been intimidating Democrats to try to cause hatred and possible violence with the Proud Boys.

CNN not only didn't cover that FBI briefing, they then went on the air and said the only reason Iran had that Proud Boys moniker is because of Donald Trump talking about them all the time.

But as far as I can find, the only time he talked about the Proud Boys is when he's asked about them and told to deny them.

Yes, and another utterly, utterly shameful thing, thing,

again, across the left of center media,

whatever, call them left media, let's be honest,

is the fact that when the DNI, the director of national intelligence, is a long-standing national security professional, comes forward and says the post material about the Hunter files is not Russian disinformation.

They brought out

lots of people who said,

well, he's just in the tank for Trump.

I mean, this is so irresponsible, so irresponsible.

It so undermines any remaining trust that people have in the intelligence apparatus of this country.

When they so,

to the extent that it's sized apparatus the past four years, and then when it does produce a finding that's contrary to Democratic preferences, then the intelligence apparatus is in the tank for Trump, too.

I mean, this is

really responsible.

The poison and the damage of what this story

has caused will be with us for a long time, no matter who wins the election in November.

Well, I think it's interesting that they didn't ban the Lincoln project for tweeting out the Proud Boys were emailing people and threatening Democrats.

That wasn't a problem.

That went through.

In fact, they were just allowed to delete that after the press conference yesterday.

But it was the Lincoln Project that helped Iran push all of these lies through.

It's really criminal what's going on.

Yeah, I mean, talk about coalism.

Look, I mean, I think it's been a long time over the past four years.

You know, I consider I use a category of woke.

And to be clear, I'm the opinion editor, so I'm not a news person at the post, so I can share my opinions.

I use two terms, woke and unwoke conservative.

But I don't mean it in the sense that the left means woke.

I mean it in the sense that conservatives who, as conservatives, are aware of what's going on.

Unwoke conservatives are the kind where they see unfairness happening and they're like, oh,

woke conservatives.

Wait, wait, wait.

We missed that.

Your phone broke up.

What did you say?

I was just saying unwoked conservatives are conservatives who see this stuff going on and just wring their hands, oh, the double standards.

Woke conservatives are ones like

I would say Attorney General Bill Barr or Senator Josh Hawley or Senator Tom Cotton and others who are like, yeah, we know what's going on.

We're going to take political action.

Because at this point, Twitter and Facebook are not just tech firms.

They're not just part of commerce in this country.

They are political entities taking political action, but unaccountably, in the case of Facebook, we now know with the help of

Chinese nationals who are computer scientists, they're doing this stuff

yet they're not subject to any political accountability in this country.

So this requires political action.

The Senate, I believe, needs to subpoena the two heads of the two big ones, Twitter and Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey, and then to begin to think about

how do we change the governing law, which is Section 230, because free speech is dying, but it's dying in the private sphere.

And a lot of conservatives, again, are so hung up on whether it's a private entity doing it or a public one that they can't see that, okay, well, Facebook effectively is shutting down free speech.

And we can't say, well, that's okay because it's free enterprise doing it.

Well, wonderful.

I only have, I really only have about

20 seconds for you to answer this, but I can let you go

and not ask you,

do you think the moderator is going to bring this up tonight in a non-conspiratorial way?

And

do you think it matters to the average American?

Look, I don't know.

I don't want to predict, but given it's passed as

precedent, I doubt that the moderator will bring it up.

So it's up to President Trump because

I do think it should matter.

I do think it should matter.

This is no longer just about a story of corruption, which is deeply corroborated.

It's also a story about whether our historic rights as Americans to report the news and then make up our own minds about it, get to see what's out there, this right is now at stake.

And the fact, again, that that it's a private company doing it should be irrelevant to the trump administration to the gop to the broader conservative movement so rabba mari thank you so much

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Boy, do we ever have some fighters

and hopefully a new one, Burgess Owens, former NFL Super Bowl champion and congressional candidate in Utah's 4th congressional district.

They are saying it is the closest race in the country.

Welcome, Burgess Owens.

How are you?

Glenn, good talk with you again, for sure.

And can I just say something real quickly about these folks who try to reimagine?

There's always from people who've never imagined from the first place.

They've never built anything, but

from their golden power, they always can feel they can do it much better than those who have gone out and taking a risk, figured things out, failed, and got back up again.

So that's what we're up against.

Those who've never understood what it is to go out there and make it happen from the very beginning.

So, Burgess, what are you hearing from people that you talk to?

What is the mood and what are people, do you believe, going to vote for in the end?

Do they understand what's really at stake?

Well, you know, Glenn,

I guess I'm one of those eternal optimists.

I have so much faith in the American people, just as I do in the faith in Bhutans.

We have a natural instinct, our DNA, that has us drift toward the light.

It's been out, it's our 240-year history.

And so I see as I look back in our history that we've always been a country of miracles.

That's because of our foundation of Judeo-Christian values.

And that doesn't stop.

That doesn't end because you have certain people who say that he doesn't exist.

So

I truly believe that this coming November,

when the dust settles, not only do we have a president who's going going to take us the next four years to show us again what American-level leadership looks like, we're going to have a House and a Senate with more backbone that will actually be able to push the process forward and be able to replicate what he's doing.

So, I'm one of those guys.

Again, I would say, don't worry about the polls.

Let's think about the American people.

What do we normally do?

How do we come through when times get tough when we always just win, baby?

So, I'm looking forward to seeing that happen once again.

So, you're in the fourth district, which has a lot of Republicans in there, but also has a lot of independents and moderates, people who consider themselves moderate.

The guy that you're running against is trying to appeal to, he's saying he's a moderate Democrat, but there is no such thing as a moderate Democrat anymore.

You're not allowed in.

No, no.

Pelosi has an iron fist.

She's a dictator.

So, no, you don't come there being moderate.

You come there to vote for her.

And 85% of Bick Adams is for Pelosi.

He voted for impeachment during the time our economy was going very, very well.

He's 100% rating by Planned Parenthood.

That is not the sign of moderation.

So and I tell you what I see is a good thing,

Clenn, this last year has been a really tough one for us.

But what we do when things get really tough, whether it be 9-11,

Pearl Harbor, we just come together.

We kind of come out of that little

optimism shell, that dream shell that we normally have, and we start having conversations across the board.

So I think we're gonna have we have Democrats, we have independents, we have Republicans talking about things that we might not have talked about a couple years ago.

How close we came to losing our freedom, when it comes down to businesses, to going to worship our faith, to take out kids to school.

Those things across the board are concerning.

And I think the American people will have this moment in which you realize that we cannot go toward this darkness that the Democratic Party offers.

So, in this case, here, right now, I'm up one point, but I have we feel a really good ground game here.

We're a lot of excitement.

And so, by the way, it's Burgess for Utah, Burgess for Utah, those who want to support me, because we're there, and of course, we have the next two weeks.

But I feel very, very good that Utah's will represent our country well and the values will help push our country back in the right direction.

Let me ask you a final question here, Burgess.

Tonight, the president is facing a debate.

As somebody who has

lived a long life of,

you know, through the 1960s and through the civil rights movement and now with Black Lives Matter and everything else, there seems to be a movement.

I mean, when you get 50 Cent coming out and saying he's voting for Donald Trump,

and you see the polls of African Americans,

is this movement, this walk away from the Democratic Party, is this real?

It's real.

It's real.

It's genuine.

And I tell you, this is what happens when Americans, I don't care what color we are or what our background, we love the idea of freedom, of opportunity.

And when we had a chance,

we had a window of time where Americans crossed the board.

The lowest unemployment in the history of our country for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, women, teens,

those kind of feelings, those emotions come aboard.

And once we feel it, we'll never go back to the dark.

So, yes, we're coming aboard.

I think the black community

is going to make our nation proud as we start voting for the values that have always been intrinsic within us?

We're finally saying we do not want to stay on this plantation any longer.

And when I walk through the airports and see the MAGA hats from black Americans across the board, it says that this is the real deal and it scares the left to death.

So, good Ray for some good news.

I just want people to remember: have faith in the American people.

That's what it comes down to.

Don't worry about the polls.

The American people always come through at the right time, at the right reasons, and we're going to get that done this November 3rd.

Burgess,

you'd be one candidate I'd love to endorse, but I don't because I'm the kiss of death.

And

anybody I endorse, they always lose.

They always lose.

Your friendship is enough, my friend.

Your words are bad.

Thanks a lot, Burgess.

I appreciate it.

God bless.

That's Burgess Owens.

You can find his website, Burgess4Utah.com.

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Oh, this has got to be a day that James Lindsay prayed.

I mean,

I think he's an agnostic,

so I don't know if he prayed, but if he was a praying man, it would be one of those days that you're like, please, dear Lord, don't ever have me on the Glenbeck program talking about Donald Trump in a...

that I'm going to vote for him.

Welcome to the program, James.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn, good to talk to you.

Is it really?

I mean, it is.

I'm a man of integrity, I hope.

You are.

I say what I think.

Yeah.

Say what I believe.

I have been so impressed with you and your friends that

you have been willing, you know, you know when it's

when you're doing something that you believe in, when it's something you really don't want to do, but you're just like,

I got to do it.

And you have been that guy

ever since I've known you.

You are the author of Cynical Theories, the co-founder of New Discourses, and you just put a podcast out where you explained why you're in this position now.

Can you go through that?

Yeah,

a lot of people don't understand what's happening with the election that we have right now.

They think it is a choice between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

And at the surface level, of course, it is.

We're voting for each candidate to be duly put into the office of president.

But that's not what we really have going on because we have in Donald Trump a man who's going to govern as we've all seen the way that he feels like he's going to govern.

And we have in Joe Biden a man who's captured by a movement that wants to tear apart the American society at its very foundation.

People think that Donald Trump is the cause of chaos.

And in some ways, he is.

I mean,

I think he likes chaos.

I think he operates best in chaos, at least in his mind.

The press has always rewarded him for saying crazy things in the past, and so now it's just part of his life.

Now they hate it.

But he says things

and has.

And one of the things that really concerned me in 2016, and really up until COVID, is I thought this guy,

you know, being a CEO was not going to be the guy who says, no, we can't do that.

The Constitution doesn't allow me to do that.

And I thought he would act on his instincts if there were real problems.

He has fought all of that authoritarian, not only maybe an instinct in him or a CEO

instinct, but the press and the left were calling for him to take control of companies and take control of states, and he rejected it.

Did you see that one coming?

No, I didn't.

His rhetoric is very often kind of authoritarian, and it has been something that a lot of people have been duly concerned about for the last, I guess, three, three and a half years.

And it seemed like the kind of thing that would happen.

And it didn't happen.

The evidence doesn't point that direction.

So it was quite surprising, to be honest.

And

you, I think this is one of the things you're really concerned about because you are a liberal,

but you're a classic liberal.

And you're seeing things now.

I mean, I am terrified of the left, not necessarily of Democrats like my Democratic neighbors, but the left and those who want power so badly they'll do anything to get it.

I think these guys are truly frightening because look at what they did to Nancy Pelosi, or not Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein.

All she said was, this hearing was really good and productive, and it was one of the best Supreme Court hearings we've had in a long time.

Chuck Schumer said,

I had a sit-down with her because the left was demanding that she be disciplined for saying that it was a good hearing.

Yeah, they're completely off the rails.

And that's what people kind of need to understand is when I said at the beginning that this is an election between Donald Trump and then a movement that's controlling Joe Biden, the movement is the one that wants to sit down and talk to people who have their own mind.

I don't know how many of your listeners or how familiar you are with the Evergreen State College situation where that college college melted down in 2017.

I see Joe Biden as the George Bridges character.

George Bridges was a president of Evergreen.

He was not woke.

He did not come in as a woke president to run the college.

He came in as a guy who was going to be permissive to the radicals, in particular a couple of faculty members and a contingent of students that were a small minority of the college.

And that's what it takes because people don't know how this operates.

This ideology operates by taking over administrative bureaucracies, what a lot of your listeners will call the administrative state.

That's where they will work their way in.

And the question is, do you have a guy in office who's fighting it?

Trump just put out the executive order against critical race theory.

Or do you have a guy in office who's going to either permit it or put the accelerator to the floor, like I talked about on your podcast?

Biden is not only going to be permissive of it, he's going to put the accelerator to the floor.

He's talking about wanting to add justices to the Supreme Court, add seats.

I think he said something about it today, or CNN reporting it.

There are articles coming out on the left talking about wanting to abolish the Constitution.

We hear abolish the police, abolish all the things we don't like, now abolish the Constitution.

And this cannot stand.

The question is, are we going to fill our administrative state with people who are

going to make this the policy?

They're going to twist the words so that the laws are less relevant or that are interpreted in different ways.

They'll interpret our Constitution in new ways, the so-called living constitution on steroids.

Not just a matter of

jurisprudence, but rather on steroids, like literally reinterpreting the whole thing.

Let me give you a quick example.

The Fourth Amendment protects against the search and seizure of property.

Well, if you mainline a narrative that we live on stolen land, the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect against the search and seizure of stolen property.

So if we live on stolen land and everything was made out of stolen labor from slavery, and those are the main narratives, all of a sudden the Fourth Amendment protects you against nothing.

And so, you don't have to change the Constitution.

You don't even have to abolish the Constitution.

And if we fill our administrative state with people who think this way, who want power and want to exercise power in this way, it doesn't actually matter who the president is.

It doesn't matter who the legislators are.

It doesn't matter any of that.

That's how they're going to operate at that level of administrative policy that's mostly unaccountable to voters.

We're talking to James Lindsay, the author of the book that I highly recommend, Cynical Theories,

about how he has gone from never vote for a Republican,

never vote for Donald Trump, to now I must vote for Donald Trump.

The press

has gone

really, truly over the edge.

They have looked into the abyss and jumped.

They are now talking about

censoring anything that they disagree with.

The evidence now on these emails that are coming out against Joe Biden that shows that he is absolutely corrupt.

They're being verified left and right.

There are more emails that are matching it.

One of the guys who was the CEO of the Hunter Biden company that did the email or was on the email chain, did the deal in China.

He's come out today and said this has got to stop.

Yes, that deal was done and Joe Biden is the big guy.

And yet they are not talking about it at all.

I mean, there's no chance of getting the truth anymore from the media.

I mean,

if you look even at the critical race theory executive order, we saw that

immediately they came out just person after person after person, outlet after outlet.

They're still doing it, saying that President Trump has banned diversity training or has banned racial sensitivity training.

Well, those are lies.

He did not.

And if you read the executive order, he didn't even technically ban critical race theory.

He banned the divisive things that critical race theory does.

And he banned the teaching of it as fact.

He says, in fact, in the executive order, it says you can teach it in the sense that you might teach a comparative religions class where you'd say, Christianity believes this, Islam believes that.

These are what different religions believe.

Critical race theory believes this.

You can teach it that way with, you know, the other people believe differently, but you can't teach it as fact and you can't put it, especially in administrative trainings in the federal government or contractors or education.

And they came out and just lied about it.

And you talk about censorship.

You had the British member of parliament speaking,

Kemi, the other day, spoke up and said that critical race theory is divisive.

And Facebook and Twitter started to immediately censor her speech.

And so

this is very weird.

This is very not

liberal in the sense of what our Constitution has, I don't know whether that's a Britain, but nevertheless, Facebook is not a British company.

This is very not liberal in the sense of what our Constitution is about, free speech, free thought, free religion, all of these things.

It's very concerning.

And this is the movement that is controlling.

the Democratic Party.

It is my belief that there has been a largely effective kind of velvet coup, silent coup of the Democratic Party that's turned it completely in the control of this movement.

And that's what we're going to be electing if we elect Joe Biden.

So I can't do it.

Do you have friends that are waking up?

I mean, you just have to be a pariah with your old circle of friends.

You know, when I say friends, I don't mean good friends, but

I mean, are you seeing anybody else waking up?

Is this censorship being done by

Twitter and

Google and Facebook?

Is any of this playing a role with your friends?

Do they see?

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

This is way out of control.

Well, first, I will tell you that we can include good friends.

I've definitely been thrown under the bus by good friends and family members, as a matter of fact, for this.

But that said, I mean, written out of their lives.

And so that said, though, there are people waking up.

And as a matter of fact, I'm being told told that the podcast

about why I said it's called Biden is Not the Room,

where it's not Biden that matters.

It's the movement that controls Biden.

The podcast I put on a new discourse is yesterday.

I'm having people tell me that this is having an amazing impact, that people are seeing that the censorship, that these willingness, that the willingness, the expressed willingness to change the fundamental structure of our government and to hold the Constitution in open contempt, that's scaring people even more than the riots and the excuses.

It's not even the riots, okay?

So it was the excuses that were made for the riots that really have scared people.

Our main media, many even left-winging and Democratic politicians speaking up, saying that there are reasons that these riots, these arsons,

these lawless behaviors all summer weren't justified.

And let's name the reason as racism and say it's a public health threat that we now have to treat like it's a pandemic.

I mean, people are actually horrified by this.

So I'm seeing kind of three

kinds of responses so far.

One is that people are very happy, if they, I suppose, lean to the right.

One is that people are mortified and are hoping that I'll reconsider and are reaching out to me vigorously.

And one is that people are being quite nasty with me.

But then in the kind of the corner, I'm also hearing a bit of, or a significant amount really,

of people saying, thank you.

You make me feel like I'm not crazy and I can breathe.

I can finally breathe in what I know I have to do.

It's a tough, tough decision.

I have somebody very close in my life who said, I'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever vote for him, ever.

And

had a conversation with them recently and said, I understand, but, and they stopped me and said, oh, no, I'm there.

I'm voting for him.

Wait, what?

They see it.

They see it.

if you're willing to open your eyes you see what we are really um facing james i uh

i from the first time we met uh and and we we talked um

i found you to be an honest broker that was willing to listen and have their mind changed if you could present a good case.

And I think I struck you as the same kind of person.

There's things that I do and believe I don't want to believe because it's not fun, but I do.

And that is a person of integrity.

And

I can't thank you enough for not only having the integrity, but the courage to then make it so clear to so many others.

Thank you.

Thanks, Connor.

I appreciate that.

You bet.

His website is newdiscourses.com.

Make sure you listen to the podcast.

Stu, let's tweet it out and Facebook it and let's send that.

Let's send that out, his podcast from yesterday, because it is, it's gone viral.

And he is a very, very logical.

He's a mathematician.

He's very logical.