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While the rest of the media is going in another direction, while everybody else is talking to you about the election, I'm talking to you about what is coming as part of this election.

It is so critically important.

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Now, I told you yesterday that if things went well enough for the Biden campaign to where they just felt like, okay, it wasn't good, but all right, we're good enough, that they would start to say, this was so undignified, there is no way, no way we should ever do this again.

Joe Biden will not make a circus out of this election.

And they'd never do another debate.

Well, listen to what they were saying last night.

So very simple question.

After what went down this evening,

do you think Joe Biden should participate?

in a second or third debate.

Should the next two debates go on as scheduled?

I wouldn't be surprised, by the way, if this is the last presidential debate.

Should there be other debates?

Are we really going to repeat this?

Are we going to have another two

of these?

I think we have to hear from the Presidential Commission on Debates tomorrow.

We can't do two more of these.

Why are we bothering with a discussion of the rules, of format, of time limits, of moderators at all

when we have just seen what is going to happen?

Did you notice that most of those voices were the anchors?

That didn't come from, they weren't asking Kamala Harris, so what does the future hold?

What's next?

Well, I don't think the vice president should do another debate.

No.

The question from Jake Tapper was, should he even do another debate after this?

See, it's amazing how they phrase questions.

And we learned this last night from Chris Wallace.

Chris Wallace

you're useless you're absolutely useless can we please stop saying that we have anyone anyone in the mainstream media that actually is fair and balanced can we say that I'm sorry but every journalist at Fox News comes from the same tree

No, they don't even come from the tree.

They come from the barrel that has been picked and rotted.

They're the same things.

Chris Wallace didn't do anything.

He did better than Anderson Cooper, but is Anderson Cooper

a journalist?

He's as much as a journalist as I am.

The questions were all phrased as an attack,

as from

Biden's point of view.

There was, it was remarkable, absolutely remarkable to me.

Now, the president didn't do himself any favors.

By the way, Don Jr.

is going to be on with us today.

Cheryl Atkinson is going to be on with us today.

Stephen Crowder is going to be on with us today.

We have a lot of people

eager to talk about what happened last night.

The president didn't do himself any favors.

I think he tried to dominate early.

And at the beginning, I thought, okay, this isn't good, but maybe he's he's just doing, you know, body blow, body blow, body blow to wear the guy out.

But he didn't give Joe Biden enough air to hang himself.

There were so many errors with Joe Biden, and no one is talking about them.

No one is talking about the absolute untruth, the lies that Joe Biden said last night.

And it was a surreal moment because I don't think, I mean,

I walked away from that debate.

I think like everybody else, I didn't like it.

I didn't learn anything.

It wasn't satisfying.

And I don't think it was satisfying for either side.

So it did nothing.

It did absolutely nothing.

No one changed their mind last night.

Now,

the one thing that I did think was good was I thought Donald Trump,

when he wasn't interrupting, was actually more presidential than I've seen him.

He actually had the facts on some of the when he started talking about COVID and the vaccine, he nailed that.

He nailed that.

When he was talking about,

you know, the economy and Joe Biden wanting to shut down the economy, this was another really important thing.

There was a critical moment, and I don't know if anybody else noticed it, but this is the choice, America.

Donald Trump said they want, people want the economy open.

They want to go back to work.

They want their life back.

And Joe Biden said they want to be safe.

Well, that is the question

that we're all facing today.

Do you want to be safe?

In other words, you're never going to hear anybody say anything that hurts your feelings.

You're never going to see anybody that disagrees with you.

You will be able to shut down anybody that disagrees with you.

You're never really going to be allowed to build your own business and risk

because we've got to bail out the other people who are up at the top, that are too big to fail, that do all kinds of crazy risks.

But we have to protect them, not you.

Do you want to be safe or do you want to be free?

That is the choice.

Marxism promises you safety.

Everybody's going to be equal.

Nobody's going to say anything that offends you.

Everything's going to be great.

Everybody has a house.

Everybody has an apartment.

Everyone is equally miserable.

And everyone is equally miserable because no one is allowed to be them.

No one is allowed to be themselves.

You don't get to choose what you do.

Do you remember the goal of Bill Gates' Common Core?

To be able to fast-track your child by the second grade to know, well, they're not really smart enough to do this, so we're going to fast-track them over here.

And we'll just train them to be this.

That's what the Chinese do.

Oh, yes, but they win all those medals because of the ellipse.

Yeah, they take their children away from the parents and they put them in a special school so they're really good at that

because the state is the parent.

You know, the community.

Just like BLM's plan to destroy the nuclear family

and replace it with a village.

Well, that's what, that's your choice, America.

That's your choice.

Last night, I got on my knees with my kids as we went to bed.

And my prayer was, please, dear Lord, please,

please don't give us what we deserve.

Please,

please hear us.

Last night,

last night was the clearest signal to me

that we're in a civil war.

Why Donald Trump just can't say, of course, although he did, although he did, but it wasn't good enough.

It wasn't good enough.

It's never good enough.

How is Chris Wallace bringing up the

age-old lie

of Charlottesville?

Now, I just want you to listen to this.

I want you to listen.

Donald Trump said very clearly that he disavowed disavowed the KKK.

But

there were some very good people there on both sides.

They only focus on the very same very good people on both sides.

That's like if I said to you, these were only riots and there was no protester out there that was actually genuine.

Have I ever said that?

Have I ever said that?

No.

Has the left said that there's violence?

No.

They're doing the exact opposite of what Donald Trump did.

And I'm sorry, they're doing exactly what Donald Trump did, except the press accepts it from them.

There are good people there.

These are good.

Yes, there's some bad people in the

okay?

Yes, dismissive.

Yes, there's some bad people that are gotten out of hand, but the vast majority are peaceful protesters.

He didn't even go that far.

He condemned the people that were radicals.

He condemned the white supremacists.

He condemned the people who wanted violence on the other side.

But then he said, but there's good people on both sides.

That is exactly the same as saying there is violence with Antifa.

And if any white supremacist comes down and starts tangling with Antifa, they're just as bad as Antifa.

But there are good people on both sides.

There are people that say, I want bad cops to go to jail.

Black lives matter.

Not ink.

Just black lives matter.

There are good people that say that.

Believe it.

And I stand with them.

And there are also good people that don't want white supremacists either.

And the vast majority of people stand together on that.

This is a bogus

question.

A bogus question to make Donald Trump yet again into a racist.

And for

I could forgive Chris Wallace if he would have said, will you denounce?

Donald Trump said, of course, of course, of course.

But

to leave the butt out, unless that but was, will he deny and will he disavow the violence from Antifa

well the okay yes of course I do yes of course of course that wasn't good enough and then Chris Wallace did not follow that up with now

mr.

Vice President

can you tell me will you disavow the violence on the right with Antifa

How do you ask one side that question and not the other side side?

There's one answer: bias.

I'm going to show you, with Cheryl Atkinson today, I'm going to show you some bias that you need to know about because it is getting much worse and they are shutting the door on voices like us.

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Tonight, while I still have the opportunity,

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In their own words, what you've seen so far is a warm-up.

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All right, we have Steven Crowder up in just a second.

We're going to get his view on

the debate last night.

He had a rocking show last night, just rocking.

And we're going to get his take on it.

But also, he has something going on in Michigan that I think is really, really

important.

And that will break on Friday.

We're going to see if we can pry a little information out from him because I think it's something you're going to want to know, especially if you're living in Michigan.

Stu, last night,

thoughts?

It was a cluster

from beginning to end.

I mean, I don't know how anyone could have taken anything out of it.

They just, you know, talked over each other the entire time.

Chris Wallace was all over the board.

I mean, I guess what I expected out of Wallace, who did have a couple of good questions

to Biden, though it was so limited.

He obviously was siding with Biden.

All the questions came from the perspective of Biden.

You know, it would be, he was taking responsibility for the attacks against Trump, and then he would say, you know, the president's argument is, or Republicans' argument is, when he was going after, when he was talking to Biden.

So it was kind of positioned in a way that made it difficult.

Look, I think Trump had a strategy last night, which was to come out and try to rattle Biden, try to get him off of his game, try to get him to explode with anger, which he tends to do.

Biden seemed relatively prepared for that, though he had his moments.

And he tried to just get himself through an hour and a half.

And he probably did that.

End of the day, you know, like Trump still has many opportunities here in the next few weeks to be able to move this thing.

I don't know that last night did much of anything for anybody.

No.

Now, look at the polls are all showing that Biden won by

a landslide.

That's what they always show for the most part.

We went over that yesterday.

Donald Trump didn't win a single debate last time, did he?

The closest he came was 16 points last time.

So, I mean, that's what these things always show.

But again, he lost all three debates last time, according according to the polls.

And I don't know if anyone's noticed.

He tends to be president of the United States every day.

Tends to be.

Tends to be.

Tends to be.

When he wakes up, he seems to be in a giant White House.

I didn't accept it.

But

it was a peaceful transition of power.

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Last night, Stephen Crowder just broke all kinds of internet records on YouTube.

Did a great, great coverage of the presidential debate.

Very different than

your standard debate.

He was dressed as a fighter, and I always love to see those crotch shots up your shorts there.

Stephen, it's great.

It's definitely the best part of the coverage.

Oh, there's a hell of an intro.

They were regulation-sized boxing shorts, but I didn't realize they don't typically do the interviews seated.

They don't have

disgusting, Scottish, I mean, the American thighs.

Great show last night, Stephen.

Tell me your reaction to the debate.

Your thoughts.

There were really no winners, and there was no moderator.

So, I mean, that's kind of the summary.

Here's what I would say.

On the issues, on the substantive issues,

I've been asking everyone, can you name me any specifics?

From Joe Biden?

So we'll go to the personality and the shouting match, you know, and kind of two guys with their walkers, you know, and someone coming in with a folding chair.

The economy outside of raising the corporate taxes to 28%?

Anything else?

What about violence and riots in the cities?

Anything?

Just stay out of the way.

How about COVID?

Aside from Donald Trump being racist?

Anything?

Anything specific?

The only thing I can really remember is him saying that he didn't support the Green New Deal before he used the rest of his time defending it.

And of course, his website does praise the Green New Deal, which, by the way, is a five-page bill that takes over the entire economy and all of your rights.

So if you ever had any doubt as to who was pulling the strings with Joe Biden, as to who the puppeteers, it's the Harrises, the AOCs, the squads of the world, and he was really veering to the social justice left.

Outside of that,

I don't think Trump did a great job in giving Joe enough rope to hang himself anytime.

Right.

Exactly right.

Yeah.

Joe just needed to leave him alone with his thoughts.

Yeah.

And he can't find them.

Yeah.

I got it in you someplace.

Stephen,

last night we were watching it and we were talking, and I don't think people really understand.

And I have Cheryl Atkinson on next hour, and we're going to talk about what the press is doing and also what social media is doing and preparing people for,

unbeknownst to them, of the silencing of voices once this election happens.

If you disagree with the mainstream media, you're going to be silenced.

How real do you think it is if this election goes awry, your voice, my voice, just not going to be able to get out?

I don't know if we won't be, they won't ban people like us.

And that's the thing.

Sort of like with the media, people say, Well, why don't you talk about Rachel Maddow?

Listen, come on.

When you have an open lesbian with the Princeton number three boys' haircut out there talking about how Donald Trump is Satan incarnate, that's the, I don't really have a

gripe with her.

She is who she is.

My issue is with the lies by O mission is by people trying to act objective.

And so my problem with social media is if they say, well, we're not going to ban, we want all voices.

And then they change the rules and they do things behind the scenes that limit your reach.

Something hilarious.

Do you know that I was fact-checked early on in the COVID pandemic because we had friends at Origin, Maine who had made masks.

And at this point, the CDC was saying, don't wear masks.

It's actually worse for you.

And I went on air.

I just said, hey, listen, the truth is, if you look at the science in these countries, if you happen to be sick yourself or you feel the sniffles and you're working in close proximity with someone else, this was before the lockdowns, I said, may not be a bad idea to use one of these

cloth masks.

It's not an N95 mask.

It won't prevent you from breathing in any actual respiratory droplets or any aerosols.

But yeah, if you feel sick, and we were fact-checked because at that point, they said masks are bad for you.

These people are the ones in control.

I know.

The same thing happened with us.

I said, if it doesn't work, then why are all the people in the hospital wearing them?

If they don't work,

of course, of course they work to some degree.

Well, see, your problem there, Glenn, is you're looking to medical professionals who are actually serving patients as opposed to the experts like Fauci who haven't served a patient or taken care of anyone for four decades.

You have something coming up on Friday that I cannot, I can't wait for.

You are taking your show and you're going to hold a Michigan rally on the steps of the state capitol.

And you're demanding what?

Well, we're going to have a hashtag.

We're going to have a call to action for people.

And we're going to have thousands of signs that Michiganders can put in their yard.

Let me kind of tell you where this comes from.

I'm from Michigan.

I was born in Detroit.

I lived there for years.

We only recently moved away from Michigan.

We still have a home up there, a small home cottage on a lake that we go to.

I have a 97-year-old grandma in Michigan.

I have several family members and good friends who are nurses who, of course, have been laid off for furloughed in Michigan.

And if I have to see one more god-awful sign that says, thank you, Governor Whitmer, for keeping us safe, let me be really clear here.

The only leg that Governor Whitmer has to stand on in Michigan is that she locked everything down, irreparably destroyed the Michigan economy to keep people safe.

She actually enacted policy that has directly led to the death of the most vulnerable citizens in Michigan, the sick and the elderly, and she has refused to give an account, to give a tally, and to be transparent about what kind of results her policies have created.

What do you mean she's refused?

We have some information.

What do you mean she's refused to give a count?

Yeah, well, she gave out a count that said 34% of all deaths come from nursing homes.

That's not even close.

That comes from less than a tenth of the actual homes that are licensed in Michigan.

And we have some numbers that we're waiting to verify, Glenn.

I don't want to speak out of turn.

We should have them by Friday or not because the governor has said she doesn't have to respond to requests for information to which we're legally entitled because it's a pandemic.

Oh, how convenient is that?

But there are some numbers here that are startling.

Here's the thing too, it's going to be in Lansing, I should be clear here, probably if I'm going to be plugging it right, October 2nd on the state Capitol steps at noon.

If you want to protect old people, Glenn, if you, and we all do, this is the thing, Republicans want to protect the most vulnerable among us.

If you want to protect the sick, you would do the exact opposite.

of what Michigan has done.

What do I mean by that?

Let's say you lock everything down.

Is it any safer for an 80-year-old two months from now when they come out?

No.

It's the exact same situation.

You don't quarantine the healthy, you quarantine the sick.

And instead, in Michigan, they quarantine the healthy.

By governor's order, by the way, and Republicans presented a bill to stop this, and she vetoed it.

But let's go through the first step.

The governor quarantined the healthy, the entire state, while sending not old people back into nursing homes, right, who were sick, who went to the hospital, got COVID.

20-year-olds, 30-year-olds who had COVID into nursing homes and adult foster homes and homes for the the aged.

Yeah, you saw that video of that,

I don't, the gentleman beating up the 85-year-old who eventually ended up killing himself?

That's because the guy had COVID.

So they sent the paranoid schizophrenic, who, by the way, his own dad said, had no business being in a nursing home.

And Governor Whitmer said, well, you know what?

We have fail-safes in place that'll stop these people from getting into

nursing homes and cross-contaminating.

You couldn't stop a crip in the making from beating up grandpa.

Keep in mind, in these nursing homes, the clap has been on the rise by like 52% because old ladies get around slowly, literally, but figuratively, very quickly.

This is a problem.

If they can't control that, how are you going to stop people who go in there with COVID?

It's the only state that I know of that has done it, and they have not given an actual account of what the death total is.

It's not even close to 34%.

What they're saying is 1,947 nursing home residents and 20 staff members died of COVID-19.

Those account for one-third of all virus deaths in Michigan.

Is it worse than that?

Sorry, I sound evil because I'm thinking of Governor Whitmer.

It's not even close, Glenn.

It's not even close.

That number comes from 442 nursing homes.

There are over 4,000 currently active.

Oh, my gosh.

And I thought, Glenn, I thought, now,

to be clear, that's not even the worst part.

They're comparing it to Indiana, to Illinois, to other states that have comparable rates, right?

You go, well, okay, it's somewhere around 30%.

Those numbers, 30%, 32%, 33, depending on the state of all deaths in these other states come from nursing homes, assisted living facilities, homes for the aged, and adult foster homes.

Governor Whitmer is including that 34% total of all Michigan deaths.

from 442 homes and there are many many thousands you would have to assume there was not a single death in any of the others and we're going to have some more official numbers on Friday.

But it is, when I was looking into this, Glenn, I was saying, first off, it's my home state.

It should be the best state in the Union.

It's beautiful.

The natural resources voted most beautiful national park several years running sleeping bear dunes and it has been brought to its knees by Wuhan Whitmer.

So when I started looking into these numbers,

thank you.

When I started looking into these numbers,

I thought I must be wrong

or this is really deeply evil.

And then I had to say, why?

Why would she do this?

Like, what is the reason to send 20-year-olds, 30-year-olds, non-nursing home patients into those homes with COVID?

Well, here's the thing.

Let's look back then.

What did everyone say before this pandemic, Glenn?

What did we have to do?

We had to...

We had to flatten the curve.

Right.

Instead, they flatlined grandpa.

They said we had to flatten the curve.

You know what they did?

They said, look, look, look, look, look, look.

Our hospitals are not overburdened here in Michigan.

Toss them in the old folks' home.

So Governor Whitmer can go out and claim that she flattened the curve because 25%, keep in mind, Glenn, 25% of all deaths in any given month come from nursing homes and assisted living facilities.

So at that point in time, they can say, which was the most important, right?

This was the most important point in their multi-pronged approach to fight COVID, was flatten the curve.

Well, they did flatten the curve in Michigan.

You have record layoffs and furloughs for nurses.

And instead, we have a debt.

We sent these sick people to nursing homes like a buzzsaw.

I don't know how you justify it outside of optics.

And now she wants to launch an investigation into President Trump for not doing enough with COVID.

Okay, Governor Whitmer, you first, and you didn't not do enough, you did too much.

You enacted policies that directly led to the death of American citizens.

And anyway, if we're going to find common ground, let's find common ground in the truth.

You should have the far right, far left, and every centrist in between right now say, hey, you know what?

We may not agree on the policy going forward.

Even if I agree with a full lockdown or I think we should reopen our economy, we certainly are entitled entitled to knowing how many people actually died as a result of these policies.

If you are not interested in that, you are not interested in the truth.

And we are going to have signs that you can put up right next to those.

Thank you, Whitmer, for keeping us safe.

And I'm very happy with them.

I want to hold this little authoritarian that could accountable.

What do the backyards?

What do the signs say?

You know what it has to say?

It has to do with Whitmer.

I'll give you a hint.

It's in Michigan, and it has to do with Whitmer.

Okay.

This rally is going to be noon on Friday, October 2nd, at the Michigan State Capitol in Lansing.

I mean, I want to put one of the signs in my yard, and I live in Texas.

Go, if you are anywhere near Lansing, go and see and

be with Stephen Crowder to hold this, as he said, authoritarian wannabe, hold her feet to the fire.

What you're saying, if you have the numbers and they are much, much worse,

this is, I mean, this is,

I mean, this is just slaughtering people.

It's slaughtering people

for political reasons.

And what happened to trusting the experts?

The experts said, we can't handle these people in these homes.

She said, sure, you can.

They said, no, we can't.

And then you saw these deaths, and then you saw that video of that guy getting beaten up.

They couldn't prevent a young known criminally insane person from beating up an old man.

How do you think they're going to quarantine people in the same building, which they had no interest in doing?

All right.

Stephen, thank you so much.

He'll be there 11 a.m.

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That is noon Eastern on Friday, the Michigan State Capitol in Lansing.

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Now, the really frustrating thing about last night and and the debate was you didn't get any real answers.

I mean, they weren't really

talking about the things that the average person is afraid of.

I thought Donald Trump did.

I thought when Joe Biden, everybody said, oh, it's very effective when he looked into the camera and said, you know, how many empty chairs are at your table?

And this is not to mock the deaths of COVID, but there are 200,000 people that died, many of them grandparents.

And nobody wants to lose their grandparent, but it's not 1918, for the love of Pete.

And he said, he looked at how many people,

right, I get it, and people are concerned about that.

But how many more people

have an empty chair at their table because somebody has to take a second job if they can find one?

How many people at that table are struggling to meet,

to make Eds meet so they can put something on that table?

That's what Donald Trump was talking about last night.

I thought, effectively, when he was talking about COVID, open the economy.

That appeals to more people than I'm going to keep you safe from a virus that unless you are a zombie Democrat,

you have a handle on it.

If you're a zombie Democrat, you think that it's horrible and it's 1918 or worse.

If you're a zombie Republican, then you're thinking that there's nothing.

Most people are in the middle.

About 80% are saying, this is something.

I don't know if we should have shut down the economy.

Why can't we do, you know, why can't we protect the people who are most vulnerable and open our economy up because the cure is looking worse than disease?

That's what most people are saying.

That wasn't the message from the Biden camp.

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I'm talking about your dog, by the way.

Yeah, he'll come up with the ball and he'll just look at me and then I'll reach down to grab it and he'll pull it away and he'll walk away and then he'll come back.

Yeah.

I mean, he is, I've never seen him like that.

That was midnight last night.

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What is that?

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Last night, I don't know what I would have done if I were Chris Wallace other than, oh, I don't know,

ask different questions.

But that thing was completely out of control.

Completely out of control.

And I'm watching him, and again, I don't know what I would have done because it requires everybody to work together, and nobody seemed interested in working together on that last night.

But I was listening to the questions and the way they were phrased, and I thought, is there not an honest journalist out there?

Is there not, why, why was the news about Bremer and Clinton

and Struck and Comey

knowing that the Russians said

that Hillary Clinton was screwing with the election for Donald Trump, that they were doing a setup on Donald Trump?

They knew that

in June or July of 2016.

Then in September, the intel from Russia, they write to the FBI and say, you've got to investigate this.

They knew about it.

They even briefed the president on it.

All of them knew, but I guess they just knew Hillary would never do something like that, so they never investigated it.

How is a story like that not at least warrant one question?

Because nobody's being honest.

There is one honest journalist that I know.

Her name is Cheryl Atkinson.

She joins us now to talk about the presidential debate and, of course, the conspiracy about George Soros.

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Hi, Cheryl.

How are you?

I'm great, Glenn.

How are you?

It could be better.

You know, it could be a lot better.

Tell me, first of all, because we have some real meat to get in with you, but I'd like to hear your review of the presidential debate.

It was pretty much as expected.

I don't know how you avoid that unless you're going to cut microphones when one or the other is talking.

I just don't see how you control this sort of debate in that format.

Kind of as expected, I wrote in The Hill last week that don't believe the media clips that portrayed Biden as if he were a befuddled, confused old man, unable to put two sentences together because I've been watching his appearances as well as Donald Trump's like I did in.

2016 for the candidates.

And Trump acted very much like he did in 2016 at the debate.

So I don't think that was any surprise.

Right.

But did we learn a lot?

Did we expect to learn a lot?

Were minds changed?

I don't think so.

I don't think so either.

And I don't think there's going to be another debate.

I think that it was so chaotic and everybody hated it so much and we didn't learn anything that I think it puts Biden in a situation where he can say,

it was a disgrace.

It's beneath the office of president.

I'm not doing it again.

And I think he could get away with that.

Yeah, if he does not want to, if he feels like he, you know, eked out an okay performance and let's leave it at that, if he's having any difficulties we don't know about, then I could absolutely see that happening.

Again, going back to the microphone, the debate I would like to see, but you'd have to cut the other person's microphone.

I'd like to have them each ask each other two questions at a time with a 30-second question, a one-minute answer, a 30-second reply, just talking to each other.

But obviously, that requires some level of cooperation rather than the talking over one another.

Yeah.

Cheryl,

tell me what this election means to America.

For instance, last night,

there was this moment where

Donald Trump was talking about COVID, and he said people want the country to be open again.

They want to go on with their lives.

They want to go back to work and do their business.

And Joe Biden just said they want to be safe.

And I thought that is really the choice here.

A big government that will make everything, everybody's problems go away and keep you safe, or I want to be free to do what I want to do.

What is the real choice or what does it mean, this election?

Well, I think you're right.

I have long argued that people's response to coronavirus tracks largely along the lines of their personality more than anything else.

There are people who are optimists and pessimists and hypochondriacs and people who don't worry and people who party in the face of disaster.

I mean, there's just all kinds of reactions to stress and responses.

And I think that more than anything kind of dictates how we view, you know, what's going on.

But we are, for the reasons of coronavirus and the violence in cities,

experiencing maybe the biggest cultural and social change going on in our country in, well, in my lifetime.

I'm 58.

I'm 59 years old.

This means that what direction is it going to go?

I think we have two very different

ideas of how that goes in terms of education.

I don't think public education ever goes back to exactly what it was after this coronavirus response.

I think the workplace, obviously, with commuting and so on, but also the move from the cities to other places because of the violence and the...

you know, the problems that are happening and the ways that cities, certain cities are being run.

So what direction does all of that take?

I think Biden takes it in one very specific direction as a leader, and I think Trump takes it in another.

And I used to say to myself, well, the president doesn't make all that much difference.

He's there to four to eight years.

The persistent bureaucracy runs the show by and large.

Not a whole lot changes.

But I don't think that's the case now.

And I think Trump has mixed a lot of that up.

And

that's what's at stake.

When we look at

the news of Hillary Clinton last night, well, first of all, before I get to that, one of the things that was asked, but not answered, and never came back to was, will you pack the courts?

That's a really important question that affects everything.

It was asked, but it wasn't answered.

What's the meaning of that?

I think the meaning of that is,

well, I took it to mean yes, he would, but I guess it could mean the opposite in fairness, and he just wouldn't want to say, because there are elements who want to pack the court, and if he doesn't want to, maybe he doesn't want to say so up front.

He doesn't want to say who he would put on the court.

He doesn't want to release his list.

I think those things, if Donald Trump were doing the same, you know, avoidance in those particular questions, he certainly would be called out to a much stronger degree.

And pressed on, you know, one thing I was researching this morning was how many times Trump has condemned white supremacy and racism because I can't find the article.

I wish I had saved it.

There was an article I ran across in the past year or two researching my book Slanted that showed probably, I think it was like 45 times he had explicitly, you know, in no uncertain terms, condemned these things and yet followed up by news reports the next day saying, why does Trump refuse to condemn white supremacy?

And, you know,

I was surprised Chris Wallace asked it in the way he did.

Fair enough to bring it up if you want to, because Media Matters

has successfully tarred Donald Trump with that reputation since their effort in 2016 to do so.

But Chris Wallace, I think if I were asking the question, I would have said, you have many times condemned white supremacy and racism, and yet there continue to be calls for you to do so.

Will you do so here tonight?

Like, at least acknowledge how many times he's done it, because if you if you Google it, news articles from formerly reputable news organizations continually insist he doesn't or he hasn't.

And it's just, you know, factually incorrect.

So how about the

Chris Wallace isn't asking over and over,

you know, the same questions of Biden, although he did ask him about, he did touch upon, you know, condemning the Antifa violence with Biden.

Touched on it.

But it wouldn't, wouldn't a better question have been, you know, you have disavowed the white supremacists and the Klan.

In fact, last week you issued an executive order that named the Klan a terrorist organization.

But

you also

said Antifa was a terrorist organization.

So will you denounce the Klan here?

Was that

another example of you denouncing the Klan?

And Mr.

Biden, will you now denounce Antifa and the Klan as well?

Wouldn't that be fair?

Yeah.

That's a good question.

That's a fair question.

And again, I was looking back, I see as far back as 2000

when Trump was being interviewed by Matt Lauer on NBC about his decision not to seek the Reform Party nomination for president.

I didn't even know that was going on back in 2000.

Lauer asked why and Trump answered, well, you've got David Duke who just joined it, a bigot, a racist, a problem.

I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.

I mean,

he's been unequivocal about that when many times when it's been raised, and then the press, the very next time after this campaign started, will say once again, why won't you denounce white supremacists or David Duke or whatnot?

We're going to talk to Cheryl in just a minute about what was released yesterday, the documents that were released that look really damning.

I'd like to get her opinion on this.

And really almost a footnote to the mainstream media.

But I think this says a lot of where we're headed if we don't clean this up.

We're going to talk about that and also

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Intelligence Now, the authorities here, the U.S.

intelligence authorities, knew of Russia's knowledge of Clinton's plans.

This is before they launched the investigation into the Trump campaign.

It looks like this was a giant setup.

At one point, Central Intelligence Agency director John Brennan personally briefed Barack Obama and other top U.S.

national security officials that Russia had assessed Hillary Clinton and she had approved a plan on July 26 to, quote, vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services, according to Brennan's handwritten notes.

What does this story tell you, Cheryl?

Well, it kind of puts the final punctuation on what we've seen come out over the last three and a half years.

And I would say when I first heard some early reporting and leaks and theories about all of this, it sounded so far-fetched that this would actually be a plan hatched and paid for by Democrats in the Clinton campaign.

But when you fill in the blanks, it's all there.

It's pretty clear, and it's...

It's pretty obvious.

But as often is the case, the drip, drip of information has come out so slowly and been reported so piecemeal that people are acting like they're not very surprised or shocked, kind of like, well, we already knew that.

You know, there's been no giant wow, you know, moment on the part of the people who are reporting the news at large that say this is really one of the most incredible and biggest stories of our time.

I think this is

possibly the biggest story of my lifetime when it comes to corruption in the government.

And if it's not corrected, we have no chance of being a country of, by, and for the people.

Well, and it's not been corrected.

We still have

an FBI director who has given false testimony repeatedly to Congress, claiming they're falsely claiming there have been no 702 surveillance abuses, which I've outlined in great detail, all of the documented cases, let alone ones we don't know about.

We have in my lawsuit for the spying on me, the Department of Justice still defending the guilty agents, even with a whistleblower admitting to being part of the campaign.

Instead of apologizing and taking care of business, DOJ is defending the guilty agents and not looking at the forensics.

So there's a lot that hasn't changed in, again, what I call the persistent bureaucracy that runs this country.

And this is why 2016, I believe, happened, because when these signals were put out and when Edward Snowden revealed what was happening within the intelligence agency and when Michael Flynn was going to go in and take care of business, since none of that happened, it allowed these abuses to continue and they will until and unless it's cleaned up.

Do you think that the

I mean, Trump seems frustrated that this stuff isn't

coming out and

being cleaned up, but he's really kind of in charge, isn't he?

I mean,

do you believe anybody is serious about really getting the leadership and cleaning these things out of our government?

I think you have to imagine what it would be like to know the things you believe you know and to want to change the things you want to change as president with maybe a couple of people in your circle that feel the same way you do and that you can trust, but pretty much nobody else who either feels that way or...

or they have some sort of conflict of interest or tie, or they are there for a reason to keep you from doing doing certain things and he was convinced very early on through this operation against him and this was part of what i believe was the goal that he has to stay away from his own department of justice unlike every other president that he's not supposed to you know give them guidance and leadership on certain topics which is not true but they've scared him away from his own justice department lest he be accused of interfering with it in some inappropriate way.

And that's kept him marginalized to some degree.

Jeff Sessions, I'm told by numerous sources, whispered in his own office when he met with some people, members of Congress, because he didn't trust the people in his own office who could be listening to him about certain things.

And he was utterly frozen and unable to do the things that he stated he wanted to do.

If you can imagine this monster that's been built up that is the bureaucracy for so many decades, you can

attack a layer or two, but you don't know how deep it goes or how many people are on which side in the end.

So it becomes very hard to accomplish in four years.

Is it safe?

Is it safe to say

if you didn't believe in a deep state in 2016?

Okay.

But if you don't believe in a deep state now, you are not paying any attention at all.

I think that's true.

And I was one of those who thought the notion might have been somewhat exaggerated, not having known what I know now.

I had people tell me things I didn't report, but about meetings that took place that I couldn't verify with people in Department of Justice and other agencies actually having conference calls to conspire in ways that sounded unlikely and unbelievable at the time, that I now have no reason to think didn't happen because these sources have proven correct on so many other things.

So, yes, I do.

I even had a guy tell me, Glenn,

he says, this was about two years ago, but he was emailing me about something else.

And he said, there is a deep state, and I can tell you there is because I was part of it.

And he worked at a high level in the State Department under Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

And I just thought that was interesting that he admitted it and used that term to describe the role that he felt he played.

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And we do that, and we start with George Soros with Cheryl Atkinson coming up in just a minute.

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And Cheryl, this is going to be called a conspiracy theory.

I'm sure you're aware of the transition group that the left has put together.

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really how to throw the country into chaos and how to negotiate a win for Joe Biden by, in their own words, encouraging Washington, Oregon, and California to secede.

Well, I don't think that's going to happen.

And I think some people would welcome that if it did, by the way.

But I do think, well, you know, Lanny Davis got on Twitter the other day and said, this is former, or the current, current, I guess, Hillary Clinton confidant friend,

and said something like, New York, California, we ought to just, we're going to leave.

And a lot of people tweeted back, like, please be my guest.

How soon can you go?

Yeah.

But

I agree that,

you know, I heard, again, in 2016, something that some of my contacts on the right were saying was

that the left accuses us, they mean the right, of doing everything that they did.

And I just thought, I kind of chuckled, like, oh, that's kind of a funny saying, but I didn't really think of it as literally true until now you look at their refusal to accept the outcome of the election, which they're, you know, accused Trump of doing in 2016 and now again in 2020.

And then I get chills when I think about Ukraine accusing Trump of interfering with Ukraine when they knew some months before that this was probably going to come up

because of what Biden and his family had had been involved in, which was exactly what they accused Trump of doing, only

their deeds were documented and acknowledged versus the sort of accusations, the generic accusations that turn out not to be true against Trump, although he was impeached for it.

And yeah, I just go back to this friend who said that, and I'm like, you're kind of right.

You're proving right.

So when they say something, a lot of times it makes me now think, okay, what have they done that they may be trying to deflect from?

Or what are we going to learn

that they did do?

When I was uncovering the Tides Foundation back in 2008 and George Soros, that's what I told my team.

They will self-diagnose.

Whatever they accuse us of, they're doing.

Because you recognize disease in people because of you.

You know what I mean?

You're like, oh, they're probably doing this because that's the way you behave.

And they can't help themselves.

They always self-diagnose.

This is what's happening,

but it's actually happening on their side usually.

The New York Times, let me see if I can find this, came out

today,

or this was yesterday, about disinformation in the 2020 presidential election.

And they say election misinformation,

the biggest category of election misinformation

is the mail-in ballots.

that there's going to be a problem with the mail-in ballots.

And the other one is George Soros, the investor and Democratic donor.

There's so much misinformation about him.

We continue to get flagged all the time

when I say things like, George Soros is investing in district attorneys and he is trying to change things by changing the system from within at the local and the state level.

That's all proven.

How is that a conspiracy theory?

Agreed.

Because if you don't dig in the way you have, it sounds crazy.

It sounds far-fetched.

And I thought so too, you know, at one time before I looked at some of the details.

And most people don't have time to look into it, and they can't believe that stuff, you know, the stuff can be connected or how it's connected.

I mean, the mail-in ballots, and I wrote about this at length and slanted.

How can the media fact-check in advance the future?

You had people fact-checking as false Donald Trump's prediction that there would be fraud with the mail-in ballots.

And I'm like,

how do you false fact check something that hasn't occurred yet that you have no idea what's going to happen?

And then you follow the money and you find out that

the fact checks, let's say in the case of Google doing a fact check or taking down information and they're owned by Alphabet, which is one of the biggest contributors to Joe Biden's campaign when you look at employees by company.

And they were the biggest contributor to Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, I believe, or one of the biggest in 2016.

And then you start looking at all the fact checks, and this again sounds conspiratorial until I looked into it for an article I wrote for Real Clear Investigations.

So many fact checkers, and particularly the board at the supposedly independent board at Facebook,

have connections to Soros groups.

And I started getting chills when I looked.

I'm just like, ah, maybe a couple of these people will have links to Soros.

One works directly for the Soros organization.

And I think all but one or two out of more than a dozen had worked with these groups he's founded and funded or paid for or gotten money.

It's just

so much money out there.

The odds are that if you're looking at any kind of advocacy on the progressive side, it's been touched by money from a Soros group.

And

what is your opinion on Soros?

Why does he do it?

People say to me all the time, he's a capitalist.

He's a rich guy.

Why would he want to destroy capitalism, the free market system?

Why would he want to do these things?

I don't know.

I can only assume, and I just don't know, that he's a real believer in these causes.

But it seems like the way he funds a lot of them, he's giving away his fortune.

He's doing something that's not benefiting himself financially in a direct sense.

So he must believe in it.

But it does tend to be disruptive in terms of a chaotic, sort of throwing chaos into the mix, trying to

it creates confrontation with types of groups and the causes that he takes on and the way that he takes them on.

My objection is not so much with him because what he's doing appears to be perfectly legal, but it's so successful in a sneaky way of getting the media, I blame us, to report things a certain way and not scratch beyond the surface and to pretend that things that we see are you know, majority opinion because somebody says it is or because they want us to think we all should feel a certain way.

The media is not doing a good job at sorting through these ties so that we can at least give information in a neutral sense and with context and not just pick up these narratives that are being pushed out by big money interests in these second and third-hand ways that people are completely unaware of.

Let me go back to the

story in the New York Times and ask you what it means.

The story in the New York Times is about how misinformation, false, misleading information about this election has got to be curbed.

And I'm going to give you the leading categories.

Mentions, this is from the New York Times, mentions of absentee voting or ballots, such as the false idea that it is an unreliable way to vote.

That's their first

misinformation.

Is that even close to true?

That it's not an unreliable way to vote when you're throwing away sometimes up as much as 30% of the ballots?

Well, certainly they're not in a position to state as if it's a fact that they've somehow disproven or established that it's

not an unreliable way to vote or that they're saying it's completely reliable.

They can't.

This is my problem with the fact checks.

That's not really a fact check.

That's an opinion

prediction.

That's a claim that they're making, but they're presenting it.

as if it's a founded fact.

And then I look at the big picture.

How many things have the New York Times been wrong about?

You You can go look at my media mistakes in the era of Trump and see how many times they're on the list for completely false information and reporting, whether by accident or on purpose doesn't matter.

But then they want to be the arbiters of misinformation for the 2020 ballot issue.

Number two, they say is misinformation, mentions of voter fraud, such as mentions of misleading stories about criminal conduct involving mail-in ballots.

Well, you know, if there's criminal conduct, and there has been, I've been tracking some of those stories.

Again, this is a new notion of fact checking, the idea that you shouldn't and this is very Orwellian, that we should be censoring facts off the top, even when true, because we don't want people to conclude a certain thing about the facts they hear.

That's just crazy.

That's just not, you know, facts are facts and you're not supposed to like shape and curb them or claim that they're somehow illegitimate if they're true just because you don't like the outcome or what people might conclude from them.

But that's quite the trend.

So, the book that comes out around Christmas time or Thanksgiving,

the subheadline is How the News Media Taught Us to Love Censorship and Hate Journalism.

We're in real trouble, Cheryl, if we can't get the facts out.

And if the public square, Facebook, Google, everything else, shuts people like you or discredits people like you or even me, if we can't have opinions and a different look at different facts that are not being reported and we have the documents, we're over.

We're over.

Well, that's my biggest concern.

And I agree that even, you know, I've had pieces of mine that are completely 100% factually supported, no opinion, no conjecture in it on my part.

both sides represented, fair, not controversial, flagged as fake on Facebook by, it turns out, people that are conflicted if you can even find out who's doing their fact checks.

They're people connected to the story.

And I worry, as I say in Slanted, that

in the not too distant future, like my child will hearken back to her kids that there was a time when you could get all kinds of unfit information on the internet because we're reaching a time where you can't and you won't be able to search and come up with true information about topics you care about because someone will have decided off the top, you know, in the beginning, when they were saying don't wear masks, that's all you would have been able to find because Google made a partnership with the World Health Organization to direct your searches to who and who was wrong by their own admission, if, you know, today, if you want to take their word for it.

So they're deciding to direct you, these third parties, corporate and political interests, to information they want you to see, and they're keeping you away from what may be true information they don't want you to see.

Think about that.

You know, it's very frightening.

Is there free speech if your voice, my voice, others, are relegated to our own websites and we cannot advertise or put anything out into the public square, do we really have free speech in America?

It's a good question.

And I'm kind of redefining censorship.

People say, well, you're talking about censorship, but those are social media companies and it's the news.

And I'm arguing they're so inextricably tied now to government.

For example, when Adam Schiff can call Facebook and say, take down this story on vaccine safety, because whoever I'm assuming pays him or donates to him doesn't like it, and then Facebook does it, I think that's, you know, that becomes government censorship reaches into a whole new definition.

And I think that's what we're seeing.

And if this isn't dialed back, there may be some people who are perfectly happy to have their news curated and their information sorted through,

but obviously they're not thinking down the road of, well, someday it's not going to be the people you want to do it who are doing it.

You know, just think about the consequences once you open the door, the slippery slope to allowing people to tell you what you ought to see and think versus you being able to decide for yourself if you'd like to.

Cheryl, thank you so much.

Always great to talk to you.

Appreciate it.

Thanks, Glenn.

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I am so frustrated that they did not force him to answer the question about packing the court and ending the filibuster.

What are you talking about?

You don't want to answer it.

It's a debate.

No, no, no.

I know you'll have an answer to this.

No, no, no.

He didn't want to answer because whatever his answer is, that'll be controversial.

Well, it wouldn't be controversial if he said no, we're not going to change it.

We're not going to pack the court.

It would be with people like Antifa.

Right.

And that's the answer, right?

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Donald Trump Jr.

joins us now to give us his thought of the

debate last night.

And Don, I don't know why your father won't answer for the 847th time

why,

you know, how bad the KKK is.

I mean, he did issue an executive order last week saying that they were a terrorist group.

But why are you holding Klan rallies in the White House?

Glenn, you just can't make it up anymore.

And by the way, he answered the question twice

last night.

The problem is they weren't talking about that.

They were talking about Antifa.

So I think if he was trying to figure out what the heck he's even talking about, Joe Biden doesn't have to denounce Antifa.

He can pretend, you know, it's an idea, Glenn.

It's an idea that magically burned down half the cities in this country that are looting and rioting, that are literally killing people you know it's an idea like this is the double standard by which we go again so donald trump can literally call the kkk a terrorist organization donald trump can actually do things to fix the african-american community like prison reform opportunity zones joe biden gets to talk about it for 50 years not do anything have his own vice presidential candidate essentially call him a racist during the baits be friends with the biggest segregationists in the world push for crime bills that destroyed so many in the african-american community but But it's Donald Trump.

I mean, this is sort of the insanity that Chris Wallace wouldn't push back on a question and tell Joe Biden to denounce Antifa.

I mean, they've waited six months to denounce Antifa, but no one talks about it.

And that's the problem.

That's why Donald Trump needs to be out there, needs to be that aggressive.

You know, it's not the tone we'd all love.

We get that.

But when you're up against that sort of onslaught, it's insane.

I mean, when we last spoke, I talked about it a little bit, but like, it's actually very personal to me because these ass you know clowns you spent three years trying to throw me in jail you know they tried to say that i was colluding with russia and doing it but now we hear that hunter biden is actually that guy there's treasury wires that confirm that hunter biden took money from a known associate of vladimir putin the wealthiest woman in russia guess what you don't become the wealthiest woman in russia without associations with vladimir putin and they won't talk about it this is the dream glenn that if i'd have done it this is what they were looking for.

This is

everything that they accused you, your family, your father of, they themselves have done.

Hillary Clinton, the news came out yesterday that Hillary Clinton,

Comey,

Bremer, who else was involved?

Peter Strzok?

They all knew.

Strzok, Paige, McCabe, they all knew.

They all lied about it.

The ones that actually didn't lie about it before Congress still went on TV for two years after their sworn congressional testimony saying exactly the opposite, you know, because they can get away with it.

And that's the problem.

So when people are like, well, he's very aggressive, I was like, he has to be.

Look at the hypocrisy he's had to dealt with.

I mean, Hunter Biden has now a tie, a direct tie to Vladimir Putin and Russia.

And you don't think they would use that over Crackhead Hunter?

Like, you don't think that we need leverage over Joe Biden later on in life?

You know, same with China.

You know, yes, no one's ever heard of Hunter Biden.

He's never been an investor.

He's never done any of those things.

The Chinese government just gave him a billion dollars because they thought he was going to be really good.

Come on, man.

Like, it's insane.

I love this.

You can't talk about it.

You're using the Biden.

Come on, man.

Come on.

Come on, man.

I mean, that's his answer for everything.

So he wasn't pushed on any policies.

He didn't have to articulate.

And he's able to say he doesn't support the Green New Deal, even though it's on his webpage.

And he gets the best of all worlds.

Then Chris Wallace lets him speak for two minutes.

But the problem with that, they're like, well, Trump interrupted him.

You can't let the guy lie.

Things that are just demonstrably false.

He denied that Hunter Biden got those payments.

He said it all above board.

He denied that he had the thing that he's on videotape, essentially bribing Ukraine with aid.

I mean,

lie after lie after lie for a minute.

And my father's not supposed to get involved.

He's not supposed to interrupt.

And then when it's done, well, sir, you already had your chance to answer that question.

It's like, well, I'm not supposed to retort to just never-ending lies.

And that's been the story of this presidency.

The media has chosen to be the marketing arm of the Democrat Party.

And Chris Wallace is no different.

Everyone's always from Fox.

It's like, does anyone really believe Chris Wallace is a conservative?

Can be a brave.

You know, I saw last night, and I thought this was the choice in front of America.

They were talking about COVID, and Biden was talking about masks and safety.

And your dad was talking about opening the country up, trusting people

to make the right decision and open things up.

And at one point, your dad said, people want their life back.

They want to be able to live their life.

And Biden immediately after said, they want to be safe.

And I thought, that's really the argument here.

A big government that keeps you safe from everything except for them

and freedom.

That's the deal.

Well, but

what's safe, Glenn, when your business goes out?

When you lose your job because the company that employs you can't stay in business because of an artificial mandate that's ridiculous.

You've seen Florida and conservative states have treated it differently.

They have less death rate than New York, which went a much more extreme lockdown while destroying businesses.

But the real problem is the left doesn't care if they destroy your business.

You may become dependent on big government.

That's a win for them in the long run.

If you're independent, if you're successful, if you don't need big government, like the left ball doesn't, it doesn't offer you all that much.

So that's part of the problem, this notion that, you know, well, we're going to keep you safe.

Well, I don't know.

Andrew Quila didn't keep New York safe and he destroyed the economy.

Ron DeSantis down in Florida, a Republican governor, has an older population, a larger population, a fraction of the death rate, and he didn't destroy the economy.

When they talk about the economic numbers and the rebound there, Glenn, they say, well, the economy is doing pretty good.

They've rebounded like never before.

They don't even talk about that.

Well, how about New York, California, Michigan, Pennsylvania, major states?

They're not even back into the economy yet.

And it's already doing well because Donald Trump built a fundamentally great economy.

The fundamentals are there.

These guys would love to shut them down forever.

It's ridiculous.

And by the way, they don't even talk about the notion of when you lose your job, when you lose your home because you can't go to your job, when you end up in a divorce, when you start drinking heavily and taking drugs and the suicide rate that ensues.

They don't talk about that this never-ending shutdown policy for would probably do much more damage than anything COVID would do at this point.

I will tell you, your father answered that question, I thought, perfectly.

Perfectly.

Stop with this fake, you know, is there somebody at your table that, you know, is missing a chair or whatever the hell he was.

And your father

put compassion in its rightful place.

Yes, we care about those people, but what about everyone else whose life has been destroyed?

Let me ask you about

accepting

the election.

In my opinion, I think most Americans like the peaceful transfer of power.

Your father pointed out there wasn't a peaceful transfer of power for the first time under Obama.

They were attacking him and plotting against him, and now we have the evidence.

But

we want a peaceful, and I will accept what the people vote for.

as long as it's not dirty.

And I've actually heard people say,

I've heard people say, hey, Nixon walked away even though he knew it was dirty in Chicago.

Well,

and what's your point?

If it's dirty, it's got to stop.

And I'm not, I won't, on this, at this point,

I won't accept something that's dirty unless the American people want to choose that, then God help us all.

But

I agree with you 100%.

I mean, all we want is a fair election, but you see what's going on.

You saw what was going on in Pennsylvania and the magical ballots all of a a sudden disappearing.

You know, they try to conflate the issue of absentee voting in states that have been doing it for years with a new, brand new system in a state that's never done it where they're going to send out 360 million ballots to every American in the world.

I hope that someone's honest.

The Democrats are now pushing to make sure that the signature does not have to match.

So the signature on the ballot doesn't have to match the registered voter who's apparently voting that way.

I mean, Glenn, can you give me one possible reason why the signature wouldn't have to match unless you were planning on cheating?

Of course not.

So we want free and fair elections, but that's not what the Democrats want.

It's not what they're doing.

And the problem is, in many of these states, the Republicans sort of roll over to their asinine rules that will allow them to create a system in which they cheat.

I mean, look at just what's going on in the last couple of days with James O'Keefe and what he broke with Project Veritas on the stuff in Minnesota on Omar's district.

Did you hear that?

They had videotape of people buying ballots.

But the New York Times reported today that that was a setup, that that didn't show anything illegal.

That's the New York Times today.

It's a setup.

The guy's saying, I'll sell you the ballots for $200 and you can fill them out how you want.

That's a setup.

That's like Nancy Pelosi saying the hair salon set her up.

Guess what?

If you're able to get up, if you're number three in line for the nuclear codes and you're set up by your hair salon, maybe we should rethink your position in government.

It's ridiculous.

But that's the problem.

The Democrats can say that, and it's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's a setup.

Oh, wonderful.

Everyone toes the line.

Everyone buys the sound bites.

Like I said,

if I'd have done a fraction of what Hunter Biden did, I'd be sitting in jail right now calling you from a payphone feeding quarters from Riker.

Right.

And

your father would be impeached.

Your father would be impeached.

100%.

Yeah.

100%.

And rightfully so, by the way.

Impeached and removed from office.

If I was rigging in money from foreign governments with money tied to child trafficking and prostitution rings, I mean, this this is real.

And Joe Biden can get on stage.

Oh, that's been debunked.

No, it hasn't.

Wire from the U.S.

Treasury, Joe.

But again, Chris Wallace doesn't say that.

No.

He doesn't question it.

You know how many people in media are talking about it today?

Zero.

Now, that didn't stop them from lying about me for three and a half years, running all sorts of wild conspiracy theories.

CNN was doing it every day.

I was in direct cahoots with Russia.

I was a real estate guy before we got into politics.

It's what I did.

I looked at a deal.

I took a meeting with someone who I looked at a deal with in the past.

That's what you do, it's called maintaining relationships.

Someone says, Hey, can you take a meeting with my friend?

Sure, you do it.

Okay, Hunter Biden's taking money from a Putin associate, $3.5 million for what services?

What exactly is it that Hunter does and knows about Russia?

What is it that he knew about energy and in the Ukraine to get a hundred grand a month in fees for a no-show job and a business he doesn't know anything about and a language he doesn't speak?

Please, because I want some of these jobs, Glenn.

I just have a feeling if I had these jobs, I'd actually pay bigly for it.

I think

America feels like we're going to war with each other.

And there's just this impasse.

And it's because we're not talking about real things like real corruption and real fairness.

We're being told that America is a racist nation.

White people were born bad and they'll always be bad.

All this stuff that is just absolutely anti-Christian, anti-Christ in a way,

and just destructive lies.

We're going down this path.

Tonight, I'm doing a special on their war game.

I'm reading their words, their own words, where they are talking about secession as one of the options.

The label is, if it's a clear Trump victory, what do we do?

And it's

a whole war game of the chaos that they're going to cause after election night.

I mean, are you.

Well, that seems to be their plan.

I mean, you know, they don't have a ground game.

They're not knocking on doors.

They're not trying to be out there.

They're staffing up legal teams to challenge this later on.

But that should be no surprise.

They've been doing it to Donald Trump for four years.

They haven't accepted the results of the 2016 election yet.

You know, that's becoming more and more clear.

Again, now that we know it's the other side doing it,

all of a sudden there's no interest

in that knowledge.

But does this surprise you at all?

The reality is this.

They were talking last night about results.

Joe Biden's been there for 47 years.

I can't name a single accomplishment of his other than shipping jobs to China.

He was really good at that, destroying the American middle class and getting his family rich.

But those aren't good things for America.

Donald Trump, whether people like his attitude or not, he has resolve.

He gets things done.

That's why we have peace in the Middle East.

Another thing not even brought up.

In the Middle East.

Another thing not even brought up.

Because it's positive for Trump.

How about ending the endless wars?

Because a couple of generals want to end up on the board of Raytheon in a couple of years.

Hey, you know what?

I'll send your kids to die in Afghanistan for another 30 freaking years.

Like, that's their plan.

I've been in the room with my father when he's like, okay, guys, tell us why we're still there.

Please.

Well, sir, it's complicated.

Okay, well, I'm the president.

It's kind of a big deal.

Like, tell me.

Well, um,

huh?

Well, you know, the thing,

it's asinine.

They want to be on the board of Raytheon so they can, you know, stay stay in the war so you can make missiles and that's how you get your board seat in your retirement package.

That's what it is.

So Donald Trump has the guts to take on the military-industrial establishment, the establishment from both sides that is all part of that never-ending game.

When our own generals can't articulate why we're in wars for 25 years, that's problematic.

And Donald Trump is the first guy to actually push back and get those things done.

Why is Donald Trump the first guy funding

the task forces to prevent human trafficking and the child sex trade that the Democrats seem almost in favor of at this point.

When I'm looking at what's going on with cuties and all of this nonsense, they're literally normalizing pedophilia, Glenn.

This is the evil of the other side.

I mean, I came out against it really strongly.

Now, I usually do that, so I'm pretty much all in on any issue that I take up.

And I figured, you know what?

Even in 2020, even with the divisiveness, you know what?

This is an issue every American can agree on.

Turns out I was wrong.

Turns out I was wrong.

I had blue checkbo Twitter, liberal Twitter, trying to cancel me for being anti-pedophilia.

Now, they're fine with anti-Fa, which is not anti-Fa at all.

It's just Fa, right?

It's just

their actual, I mean, they're literally

taking every page out of the fascist playbook from authorities and running with it.

But by calling themselves anti-Fa, I guess people are dumb enough to believe it, and the media will run with it as though that's the gospel, too.

But I mean, think about it.

I'm canceled by blue check mark Twitter for being anti-pedophile.

And the left is normalizing.

No one's asked Susan Rice why she's on the board of Netflix and what her opinion is on this.

I don't know what her qualification is, presumably none, other than she's an Obama lackey, so that's the payoff for being Obama.

No one's asking Obama, who's getting $100 million from Netflix, if he's okay with this and thinks this is normal type behavior.

That's what we're up against.

And

that's why I appreciate, again, I know that it doesn't always rub people the right way, and I know you had issues with it in the past.

I think you would sort of understand now the squaw that Donald Trump faces every day, which sort of

why he has to fight back hard.

He's the only conservative actually fighting that way in government.

You know, there's guys like us that are loud and vocal, but he's a guy that's actually a decision maker.

Most of our guys, the second you have any sort of adversity, up, they tuck tail and run.

They roll over and die, mostly because the other side would like you to.

And that's not the way we fight.

Don, I hate to cut you off, but I have to.

We have network responsibilities.

Thank you for being on.

I understand.

By the way, thank your father for everything he's doing on

the sex crimes against children.

He is remarkable on that.

Nobody's talking about it.

He's done remarkable

God's work on that.

And thank him for that.

William?

I'll do that.

I appreciate it.

And make sure everyone, you know, everyone else that you can get understands it because it's such a big issue.

It's actually probably the thing I get the most applause with

when I'm on the road.

And again, so few people cover it.

And I just sort of wonder why no one in government, why didn't Obama buy, I mean, this is a problem as old as time.

Yep.

And no one will address it until Donald Trump did.

So thank you very much.

It's getting done finally.

God bless.

Thank you so much.

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I could have spent some more time with him.

There's a lot to talk to him about.

Yeah, his new book is Liberal Privilege: Joe Biden and the Democrats' Defense of the Indefensible.

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Tonight, we're going to be covering part three.

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What are you most concerned about?

What are the things that will solve this?

Last night we watched a debate.

Nothing was solved there.

Nothing.

Nothing.

No minds were changed.

What

is it that we are

really, when we feel we're losing our country, people on both sides,

when we feel like we're in this, what will solve that?

What will solve that is agreeing on principles.

And principles are universal.

They're not white European principles or black African principles.

They're universal principles.

Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, that all men are created equal.

All of those things.

Those are principles, American principles that sometimes we fall down on.

But right now there's a movement through the 1619 project to get rid of all of that.

It's in our schools through critical race theory.

That's all Marxism.

That is to change who we are fundamentally.

If we lose that, we lose.

And I have to tell you, I've been saying this for a while.

I don't know.

Has anything changed?

Maybe.

Maybe some people have taken their children and taught their children and raised their children in the right way.

Hopefully.

I know I've tried.

I don't know know if I've succeeded, but I've tried.

The culture.

But how do you do it when the school is teaching poison?

If you feel like you can't make an impact, I want you to know today you can make a huge impact.

Not only could you send a huge message today, but that message will ripple down for a generation.

There is a school, this is legendary in the black community.

It's the Pineywood School.

The Pineywood School was started as a Christian school back in,

I don't even know, 1908, I think.

And it's one of only four historically African-American boarding schools in the United States.

And it believes that the students, even those with limited financial means, can do extraordinary things consistent with the opportunities that they make available to them.

The Pineywood School is not teaching black students you'll never get anywhere.

They're teaching you can.

You can.

Look at the opportunities in front of you.

This school is legendary in the black community, as I said.

And now

they're drying up on funding.

And we cannot lose a school like this.

Bob Woodson, who I've had on the program before, he won the Bradley Prize, the President's Citizens Award, the Social Entrepreneurship Award from the Manhattan Institute.

This guy has been on the front lines forever, actually

doing things.

Not on the news.

He's busy doing things that have really worked.

And he brought up the Pineywood School to me about, I don't even know, three months ago.

And today they're doing a virtual fundraising event, and it's today only.

And they have $500,000 in matching funds.

Their goal is to raise a million dollars.

They have $500,000.

So every dollar that you give is matched dollar for dollar.

Bob Woodson joins me now from the Woodson Center where he is fighting with the 1776 project and so many things.

Bob,

why is this school so important?

Because it's not enough when you're defending the virtues and and principles of the country it's not enough to keep it at a level of academic or abstraction it's important for people to for us to stand uh and stand with institutions and and people who are actually uh living these values they are this is uh principles in action they are demonstrating to the country that the values of liberty

have a consequence of improving the lives of people in desperate situations.

And so we are just delighted.

In other words, if you want to convince people of the validity of a principle, do what Jesus did.

When the servants of John the Baptist came to him and said, are you the one or do we seek another?

He didn't pull out his resume or a white paper or say, but why don't we have a conference?

No, he healed in their presence.

and said, go tell them what you saw.

That's why the Woodson Center in 1776 Unites is standing with and in with the Pineywood School because it is important for us for Americans to understand that the founding principles of this country have the consequence of improving the quality of life for everyone.

And Glenn, I want to thank your listeners because the last time we had an outpouring of support.

Because they are using the black community and the legacy of slavery and discrimination as a bludgeon against this country.

So we feel it's important for the messengers to push back against this should also be led by blacks.

That's why we've assembled a group of scholars and activists.

We've published essays and we've been on the front line of issuing

alternative curriculum.

And Glenn, I want to report to you some success.

I love that.

As a consequence of our essays,

we just released released about a week ago our first series of curriculum,

and there were 3,000

downloads in just five days.

Wow.

As compared to 4,500 of 1619 over the course of an entire year.

That's fantastic.

It is.

And listen to this, Glenn.

Listen to this.

In 1619 in Black Lives Matter, the New York Times deleted the claim that 1619 is a

nation truly founding.

The New York Times edited and published essays removing the false items that were challenged by historians without issuing a correction.

Nicole Hannah-Jones claimed on Twitter that 1619 does not argue that 1619 was our true foundings.

We know this nation marks its founding in 1776.

So she's deleted it.

And Black Lives Matter removed a whole section where they talk about the denigration of the Western.

So they are on retreat.

They are on retreat.

And so we are just delighted that we're going to be issuing curriculum over the next three months.

And so this has to be a ground fight.

It isn't just an aerial combat.

How can people get the curriculum?

Because that is something that you told me in the summer you wanted to do.

You needed the funds.

This audience responded.

Now, I'm so glad.

I love it when you hear from people and they can report, here's what happened, and it's great news.

How can people get the people that are...

You can go on our website, 1776unites.com,

and you can see, you can download our curriculum.

And more is to come.

And we are really,

but thank God for your listeners' support.

That's the only way we were able to do this, Glenn.

And God bless you

for your leadership.

So, Bob, tell me the Pineywoods School.

You can go to Pineywoods School2020fundraiser.org.

Tell me why this audience is critical to that and why Pineywoods is so important.

Because if you're talking about principles and virtues of the nation, you must support people whose

foundation of what they're teaching children are.

We must make people who are standing for those principles successful.

You get more of what you reward and less of what you punish.

If we want America to understand and appreciate the founding values, then we must stand by those people who are pushing against the odds and are teaching children that they are not victims, that America should never be defined by its birth defect of slavery, but by the promise.

And so,

if you believe in the principles, then support the people whose lives and actions embody those principles.

As I said about Jesus, Jesus healed and said, Go tell them what you saw.

If people want to know, the American values valid,

are they helpful to people?

Well, look at these graduate students.

96% of all Pineywood students coming from the worst backgrounds all go to college.

Mandatory chapel, mandatory work.

This is not a free ride.

They are required to work in the farm

whenever there's construction.

Even the bricks on the property over the years were made by the students.

Wow.

Wow.

And so they ought to be on the front page of every

that's the best way to defend our nation is to support evidence of the validity of our founding principles.

All right, listen.

There are other things that we're doing like that.

I want you to today

go to Pineywoods School 2020fundraiser.org.

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Today and today only, they have a $500,000 $500,000 matching group.

You've gone to different organizations and companies and said, hey, if we can raise this money,

will you match it dollar for dollar?

They said, yes, it's happening today.

I will tell you that there will be no one more surprised than the Pineywood School if this audience is raising the bulk of the money.

Because there are perceptions and then there's reality.

And this is a way to show reality.

You want to actually make a lasting change.

We have to make it in the next generation.

This is one way to do it.

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Bob is always good to talk to you, sir.

And thank you, Glenn, for your leadership.

You're such a blessing, and so are your listeners.

God bless.

Thank you.

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Well, here's a story you're not going to get in mainstream media.

A Biden campaign operative, wait until you hear, in Texas, attempting to rig the 2020 election with the help of others in a massive ballot harvesting scheme, according to two private investigators who testified under oath that they have video evidence, documentation, and witnesses to prove it.

With the help of mass mail-in ballots, the illegal ballot harvesting operation could harvest 700,000 ballots.

That changes the election in Texas.

Yeah.

The investigators, a former FBI agent, former police officer claimed that Biden's Texas political director, Dallas Jones, and his cohorts have been hoarding mail-in and absentee ballots and ordering ordering operatives to fill them out for people in Harris County illegally, including dead people, homeless people, and nursing home residents, for the presidential election.

Law enforcement agencies are investigating, but nothing will be done until well after the election, the former FBI agent said.

Dallas Jones was appointed as Biden's campaign political director just last August.

We have the affidavits.

One of them, I'm currently involved in an investigation related to a wide-ranging fraudulent ballot harvesting scheme in Harris County intended to rig the elections in the Houston-Harris County area.

The scheme involves voter fraud on a massive scale.

Based on interviews, reviews of documents, and other information, we have identified three individuals, including a state senator and the Harris County Commissioner.

Whoa, who are working with Jones on the ballot harvesting operation?

District 13 Texas State Senator Boris Miles.

I mean, if you have have the name Boris, don't you have to be bad?

Yes.

Boris, let me talk to Boris.

I've walked miles to talk to Boris.

Get it.

Mr.

Jones political consultant Gerald Womack and Precinct 1 Harris County Commissioner Rodney Ellis.

One of the companies of these individuals using as a front for this operation is A-B Canvassing, although there are others that have been identified that we are currently investigating.

I have in my possession videotaped interviews of witness attesting to the aforementioned people, having groups of people committing thousands of absentee ballots, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

This is

what?

It's interesting because we don't have mass mail-in voting in Texas.

In fact, we're one of the only states in the Union in which you need an excuse to get an absentee ballot.

So, I mean, 700,000 votes, obviously, like that is a massive deal if that's going on.

They say they have the evidence.

We got to check that out.

So we've got to check that out.

Let's check that out tomorrow.

Maybe we even call the Attorney General.

What do you think about the arguments that are made by Republicans largely that

talking about mail-in

ballot fraud all the time does a couple of things?

One, and maybe the biggest thing it does, is it informs Republicans that it's unreliable to vote that way, so therefore they don't want to vote that way.

So they might go to the polls, but the reason why you try as a campaign to lock in mail-in ballots is because you guarantee you got it, right?

Like people don't have an appointment at the last

minute or get sick or whatever else.

And if that happens to your voters, they don't show up at all.

So they, so, Republican campaigns all across the country are encouraging their voters, please vote by mail.

And then the president and many others are saying, if you vote by mail, it's going to be fraudulent and not count.

I will tell you,

the

average is about 20%

to 30% of mail-in ballots thrown out every single time.

Every single time.

Because of fraud or something's not right on the ballot or something.

Sometimes you screw things up.

Yeah, so about 20%.

If you want your vote to count,

go and vote in a polling place.

Early voting or, you know, or voting on the day, but go and vote in a polling place.

You'll know it counts there.

If you can't for some reason do it, ask for an absentee ballot.