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Well, hello.

Hand.

What?

What?

Are you sure?

Hello, America.

I'm sorry.

I just was.

I was just told that Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.

What?

Yeah.

The Supreme.

Why hasn't what?

You'd think something...

That happened Friday.

You'd think somebody would have been talking about this.

They should have mentioned this.

It should have been covered all weekend long.

So much so that you are like vomiting

when you hear somebody bring it up on a Monday.

Yes, she did die, and there is a lot going on.

We are going to cover it all.

Because I think,

I mean, I think a lot of people said, oh, good, another log for the fire.

But some people reacted even worse than that.

Here's my favorite reaction from hearing the news of Ruth Bader Ginsburg dying.

Holy fing f, you guys!

I'm driving your car, but I just got a notification that Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.

Could this year get any further?

Just needed to make it to 2021.

They really care about her as an individual.

I love the fact that she's screaming because I agree with her on this.

Could this year get any worse?

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I threw my back out quite badly today, or I mean, Saturday.

And so I just want to warn you, everything that says don't operate heavy machinery,

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So I'm on muscle relaxers that just make me feel a little slow.

But

take that for what it's worth.

Okay, I think we just need to start with, first of all, the president finding out

while being asked a question by the press.

He comes right off of the stage from a rally.

And they're playing.

So if you don't know this already,

it wasn't something they added.

But he comes right off the stage, and everything, I mean, seeing, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, what is he going to say?

Everything that he said is exactly what you've ever wanted from Donald Trump.

Listen.

Walks up to the press.

She just died?

Wow.

I didn't know that.

I just, you're telling me now for the first time.

She led an amazing life.

What else can you say?

She was an amazing woman.

Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life.

I'm actually sad to hear that.

I am sad to hear that.

Thank you very much.

So absolutely true.

And fantastic.

Now, I don't believe he didn't know because he had to, you know, he had to tell him to up the morphine just to push him.

No, kidding.

But

that is the way the president should have reacted.

And I think that's the way everybody reacted.

Well, I was out to dinner with a bunch of friends on Friday, and none of us were wearing masks.

I mean, we wore a mask while we were standing up to come in and out, but then when we sat down, they said we could take our masks off, which made total sense.

It's a COVID-free zone when you're sitting at a restaurant table.

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

So, anyway, we were at dinner.

My first reaction was, oh, no.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Not another log on the fire.

This is a big, big log.

This is the Yule log.

They're just,

this is the third log that Doc Brown put into the steam engine right before it went off the bridge.

Yeah, that's this is the last log.

This is number three.

And so my reaction was that first,

and then I told everybody at the table that she had just died, and everybody did the same thing.

That's sad.

Sorry to lose her.

And especially at this time.

And it's not like we didn't like her rulings.

No, I mean, look, she was a

you mourn for her family and the people who knew her, and you know, I want people to live.

I actually respect all human life, so would want everyone to be alive.

Doesn't seem to be the

opinion of a lot of people these days.

Oh, I know.

But I will say, you know, as a Supreme Court justice, she was obviously terrible.

Well, like, I don't know.

Now, what makes you say that?

And she was on the wrong side of literally every single issue.

Okay, let me just say this.

In an interview in 2012,

she said that she wouldn't look to the U.S.

Constitution if she were drafting a Constitution in the year 2012.

She said, quote, I might look at the Constitution of South Africa.

I mean, that was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced human rights and have an independent judiciary.

Really, I think it's a a great piece of work that was done.

So she wouldn't look to our Constitution.

She'd look to South Africa.

Also,

she called for the sex integration of prisons and reformatories so that conditions of imprisonment, security, and housing could be equal.

She said, if the grand design of such institutions is to prepare inmates to return to a community as persons equipped to benefit from and contribute to civil society, then perpetuation of a single-sex institution should be rejected.

Okay, it's a little out there.

I mean, might cause some problems, but she called for the sex integration of the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts because of the stereotypes of gender roles.

She insisted on integrating college fraternity and

sorority chapters,

having college social societies.

She may have missed the point of the sex drive.

You know, putting all these people together.

She may have.

Anyway,

she also cast constitutional doubt on the legality of Mother's and Father's day as separate holidays because mothers

can be fathers and fathers can be mothers i guess

she asserted the laws against bigamists persons cohabitating with more than one woman and a woman cohabitating with a bigamist are unconstitutional

I agree with the way they're reading it now.

I happen to agree with her on that one.

She objected to laws against

prostitution because prostitution as a consensual act between adults is within the zone of privacy protected by recent constitutional decisions.

She's right about that.

The way it's being interpreted now.

Well, thanks to her, right?

She's a big reason it's being interpreted that way.

Right.

She also said that the concept of a husband-breadwinner and wife-homemaker must be eliminated from the code if

it's to reflect an equality principle.

She called for a comprehensive program of government-supported child care.

She also wrote that the Man Act, listen to this, that publishes those, punishes those who engage in interstate sex traffic of women and girls,

the Man Act that punishes those who engage in interstate state sex traffic of women and girls, is offensive.

Such acts should be considered within the zone of privacy.

So she's not exactly.

She also found words offensive, and she said these words needed to go from all official documents.

Man, woman, man-made, mankind, husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter, serviceman, longshoreman, postmaster, watchman, seamanship,

and

to man a vessel.

I agree with all that except longshoreman.

Right.

Right.

I have a strong disagreement on the longshoreman.

Very short.

And I understand with your history.

She even wanted he, she, him, his, and hers to be dropped down the memory hole, had to be replaced by him, he, she, her, him, or his, hers.

Boy, she's out of date, huh?

Not only was she very pro-abortion, she was also on the record as opposing what was settled law that the Constitution does not compel taxpayers to pay for abortions.

She said fully funded abortions should be a constitutional right.

Again, I might disagree with her here and there.

She also called for affirmative action, hiring quotas for women, using the police as an example.

She said affirmative action is called for in this situation.

So anyway, she's done a lot of things that you disagree with.

However, today

Today, after her death, I think it's important to remember one of her

really really strong arguments.

She said she couldn't imagine Donald Trump back in 2016 getting

elected,

you know, for the country.

It could be four years for the court.

It could be, I don't even want to contemplate that.

But so she didn't really like Donald Trump at all.

But she did come out in 2016 and make it very, very clear that the sitting president, even a lame duck president in the last months of his term, had to fulfill his constitutional duty.

And she made a very, very big point about this.

Now, I have heard from AOC that her dying wish,

which we can't violate, her dying wish is that Donald Trump does not nominate somebody else.

Didn't realize the Supreme Court was a make-a-wish foundation.

I did not realize that's how this is going to be.

Well, they're taking her body to Disneyland right now.

She wanted to see that one last time.

And this was her final wish.

That was her make-a-wish.

This one's her final wish.

Okay.

I was like, really?

They're bringing her to Disney World?

So weird.

So strange.

2020.

I completely like, okay.

I was like, wow.

All right.

She's laying in state in the magic castle.

Okay.

Screw it up this year as I totally bought that.

And I'm the one on tranquilizers.

Oh, man.

Oh, golly.

Okay.

So we got to get into some of the things that people have said in the past and what they're saying.

Now, let's just put it this way.

Everybody's a hypocrite.

Okay.

Everyone on all sides, everyone's a hypocrite today.

And

we're going to officially name that Hypocrites Day.

Well, it's should.

I was going to say, is it Male Hypocrites Day?

And then tomorrow should be female?

Or would that be constitutional?

Can we separate them like that?

I'm really not sure.

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So, Stu.

Stu, Stew, Stew, Stew, Stu.

Yes, Glenn.

So, uh,

I would be quite upset if Donald Trump did not nominate somebody right now, like

today.

It is an absolute imperative.

Obviously, the Democrats would do the exact same thing, but regardless of whether they would or not, you are in office.

The people elected Republicans to be in office.

And

it is not only a thing that people are like, oh, well, this might help the base come out and vote for Republicans now if they name a Supreme Court justice.

If they can't get

a Supreme Court justice through before Donald Trump leaves office, if he were, let's say, even were to lose,

It's a reason to ever consider, you may question whether you should ever consider voting for a Republican again in your life.

This is an absolute imperative.

You have someone who's been on the Supreme Court, almost admittedly, fighting against the Constitution her entire time there.

She wants that South African one to come in.

Well, that was a really good one.

It was a really good one.

Yeah, it was well thought out.

Yeah, I mean, we always think Iceland might have been better because they did it on Twitter.

So let's do it that way.

You absolutely have to.

This improvement is crucial.

It's on the level as important as the presidency itself

or the Senate itself.

You have to do it.

You have to do it.

And people are like, well,

they made the opposite argument.

in 2016.

Well, first of all, as you point out, the Democrats were also on the opposite side, saying this standard they now believe is codified in American tradition was the worst thing that had ever happened to humanity.

Right.

We have the tape.

We'll play it for you.

It's on both sides, but it's ridiculous.

And I'm sure we'll spend time today getting into the fact that there are some differences here that are notable and important.

But it wouldn't matter if there were or not.

They'd still say whatever they had to say.

I would give you this one little note, and maybe we're the only people who will remember this.

But both of us were on the air in 2016 saying, look, just vote on Merrick Garland and vote him down.

Then you don't have to make this ridiculous, well, that's only the last seconds.

We're only 10 months away from it.

Just let him vote.

Just let him vote.

Just vote and vote it down.

You have control of the Senate.

Put them up for a vote.

Watch.

Remember, at that point, they would have had to get 60 votes for Merrick Garland.

When you have 50, they had 54 senators, I believe, at that point that were Republican.

They would have needed to get 60 total votes.

So the odds of that happening are basically zero.

Put them up, vote them down.

When they put up a new person, put them up, vote them down, wait for the election, and then you can move on from there.

Instead of doing that, they came up with this concoction largely because they wanted to shield purple state senators in election races from having to take a tough vote.

So they decided, well, what if we just kind of say, well, we shouldn't do it during an election year?

And now here they are trying to kind of navigate their way between 2016 Republican position and the 2020 Republican position.

There are differences.

They are notable.

We can go through the stats.

I mean, like, they have a decent argument here.

But instead of just saying at the beginning, look,

let's go ahead.

Let's move ahead with this process as it's been done.

And because we're Republicans, if you put up someone who is like leaning Republican or maybe a moderate, maybe we will say yes.

But instead, what they did is come up with a left-of-center nominee that everyone knew was a left-of-center nominee.

And they could have just constantly voted them down.

It would have been easy to do.

That's why I'd like to see.

I'd like to see Mike Lee because Mike Lee is so liked in the Senate by everybody.

They like him.

He's really soft-spoken.

How are you going to say, what are you going to say about Mike Lee?

We know there's no skeletons in the closet.

He's not somebody who's like, you know, was drinking in high school and

made it with a frog, even though the frog testified, you know, to the other frogs at the time, but we can't find any of that testimony and the frog is dead.

I mean, we're not going to hear any stories.

They can't absolutely say that.

They will.

They will find anything and they will concoct anything, and we know that.

But you,

you know, you have to go with somebody strong constitutionally.

Otherwise, the president, I mean, if you put another person up there, we know that we've already lost,

what's his name?

The Supreme Court Justice

Roberts.

We already have lost Roberts.

Roberts is gone.

Robert,

this is not a 5-3 court.

This is a 4-4 court because Roberts is gone.

He's not a conservative.

He's gone.

And

a chance to take Ginsburg and have a real conservative in there, because I don't think we've replaced Scalia.

We didn't get a Scalia for a Scalia.

You know what I mean?

So we haven't replaced them.

And if Donald Trump loses, it's imperative.

It's imperative because Clarence Thomas is already hinting about retiring in the next four years.

So you lose Clarence Thomas and you have somebody who's wishy-washy, we're in trouble.

Yeah, Clara's Thomas, by the way, has been overruled by me on that.

He cannot retire.

Oh, no.

I mean,

he's got to do everything that Ginsburg did.

I mean, she went out kicking and screaming.

Oh, I mean, there was no, uh-uh.

No.

And, you know, I'm surprised

until decay set in, that they weren't just like, no, she's right here.

Look, and walking around like weekend at Bernie's.

Yeah.

I mean, she did not want to go down.

No.

And I will say this, too.

People keep talking about, like, well, they need to do this before the election.

That, to me, is somewhat immaterial, whether they get it done before the election.

It needs to be done before January 20th, 2021.

I can't tell you that.

I honestly don't think they should start it because look how bad they look.

They have to start it.

Look how bad they looked at Kavanaugh.

I mean,

when that thing was going on and they were pulling dirty tricks, I mean,

they were apparent.

They were apparent.

You get somebody clean like Mike Lee.

What are they going to say?

What are they going to say?

They're going to lie.

That's what they're going to do.

That's what they're going to do.

This probably will be very clear.

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We welcome to the program Mr.

Pat Gray.

I think we have to start with the woman

that was driving in her car and just heard that

Ruth Vader Ginsburg had passed away on Friday.

I think it broke it to Pat a little slower than that.

Oh, sorry.

I mean, he may not have heard the news.

You know that she was sick.

Oh, no.

She's dead.

Oh, no.

So

here

is

this woman's reaction in hearing the news.

Holy fing,

you guys.

I'm driving a car, but I just got a notification that Ruth Bader Gensberg died.

Could this year get any far?

You just had to make it to 2021.

That was inconsiderate.

Inconsiderate.

I love that.

I'm just blaming it on.

You just, you can't die now.

I love the fact, too, that she pointed out she was driving in a car.

Because I wouldn't have noticed that.

No, I would have had no idea.

She was in a car right then.

Probably a good idea to not look at your notifications while you're driving.

Yeah,

did you worry about the people who are driving around her if she's driving with that much rage?

She's going 160 160 miles an hour, too.

She might hit your car and then come out and club you to death.

That is not good.

Can you imagine what the reactions are going to be like if Donald Trump wins this election?

Can you imagine how many of those videos are going to exist?

Oh my gosh.

Can you imagine?

They're going to go insane.

Well, we don't have to wait for the election.

Can you imagine what happens when he announces a nominee, which he must do?

Which he's, he has to do, he's going to do.

and they've already vowed they're going to burn down the entire thing if he does it.

Wait a minute.

Let me ask you this.

Let me go back to a question I asked in about 2007, I think, maybe eight.

Why don't we just split the nation up?

Seriously?

Because none of us, none of us, are any of us really into war.

No.

No.

I don't want to kill my neighbors.

I don't want to fight my neighbors.

I just want to go.

I just want to go on with my life.

So why don't we just knock this crap out and just say, okay, look, there's 50 states.

You take 25, we'll take 25.

And we'll even be magnanimous.

This is what I said back in the day.

We'll be magnanimous.

We take Texas, but you can,

then you can pick.

And we'll do every other.

So, you know, we get Texas.

Wait, so your magnanimous thing is you get the first round draft pick?

Yeah, well, maybe they get the, maybe they get the next 10.

Okay, so you, Texas, then they get the next 10, then we'll go, we'll alternate until then we'll take the last 10.

Yeah, we'll take the last 10.

And

that's fine.

I don't care it is, except we get Texas.

I don't care how you split the rest of the states.

There are states that I want to live, but

here's the thing.

Your states are going to be run so crappily, you're going to be in so much trouble within 10 years.

We are building a wall around every single state.

And you can fly in, you can visit us, but you can't move.

It can't move.

You can fly in just like anyone from a foreign nation can fly in.

Exactly right.

You'll have a visa.

You got to go home.

Get a passport.

You get a passport.

But you can't.

And I guarantee you, within 10 years, you'll be trying to climb over our walls, and you will be blaming us for everything that's wrong in your state.

Even if we have zero communication with each other, you will be blaming us for everything that's happening in your state.

Just look at California for proof.

Right.

You know, we kind of, that situation already kind of exists there, and everybody's leaving and coming here.

Yeah.

And no, thank you.

But here's, but, but here's the thing.

Seriously,

before we go to war,

because I think, I mean, look at the reaction of that girl.

Are you going to take, for instance, they are now talking to their courts in Pennsylvania

and trying to get it, trying to get them to rule that

mail-in ballots don't have to have a postmark by election night, that they can have the postmark on Friday.

So you have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to get your ballot down and have it postmarked.

No, I don't think so.

I don't think so.

There is a reason why

we don't release anything

and say what's going on because it might influence the way people vote.

You know, no, you don't get to announce on television what's going on and then say, well, wait a minute, There's some more voters out there.

And they get a postmark after?

No.

Ridiculous.

Ridiculous.

And obviously inviting fraud.

Why are you both trying to oppress the vote?

Why?

Why this voter oppression?

But if that happens, are you going to accept the vote?

If they say they can do that, are you going to accept that vote?

I mean,

it depends on, of course, the margin.

And there's a lot of things.

I mean, if Donald Trump,

Donald Trump can win the election without winning Pennsylvania, right?

So, I mean, like, if he wins,

most likely I think people would accept it because those mail-in votes that came in late would probably favor Joe Biden.

Yes.

So there's a lot of different ways.

If Joe Biden wins by 14 points, I don't think people are going to fight it.

But if it's a closely contested election, which we kind of all expect that it will be, it's going to be hard to convince people it's legitimate.

And let's forget, I mean, or at least there's not questions about it.

And

let us not forget that every election of my adult life, at least, that Democrats have lost, they have said it was stolen from them.

All of them.

Every single election that has happened.

What's that they have lost?

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

So they lost when they lost with George W.

Bush, obviously they said it.

When they lost against John Kerry in 2004, they said it was stolen from the voting machines in Ohio, and people were leaving flyers all over the place saying to vote on the wrong day.

Then, obviously, Clinton as well.

Every time they lose, they say it was stolen from them every time.

So they're going to say that if Trump wins again, because they do it in all circumstances.

So this is why we can't have a 4-4 court.

First of all, let's say, because I don't count John Roberts as a conservative anymore.

So you have a 4-4 court.

Can the vice president be the tiebreaker?

No, it would go back to the lower courts in that circumstance.

Oh,

I have a great deal of confidence in that.

It would revert to whoever was ruled.

You can't do that.

You have to have him appoint somebody.

You have to.

This is

the stated intention of the left is to tear down the United States, the Constitution, and everything we believe in.

You're going to just let this ride.

And if Republicans can't get this done, they've already lost two.

You can count Romney as a third.

Romney's going to be a weasel, and he'll vote against or whatever, or not vote he'll declare before anything nominate somebody right now nominate somebody right now yes this immediately i mean it's the second you're ready to go which should be in the next couple days not just somebody ted cruz nominate ted cruise cruz you think yeah i think so mike lee

i would love mike lee either i would go for no i would go for either one but ted cruz is going to be a much

bigger lightning thing there's no chance it's a man watch look at the general

is the should be fine so should be great rumored quote, a reported quote from a couple years ago where they were talking about Amy Coney Barrett for the Kavanaugh seat.

And

Trump reportedly said, I'm saving her for Ginsburg.

So the rumor is that it's going to be her.

She's the overwhelming favorite.

She's got, you know, I mean, she's very highly regarded, not just by conservative, crazy people, but by everybody who's honest about her credentials.

She doesn't have a super long record, which some people are a little worried about on the conservative side, but what she does have a record is stellar.

So she seems like,

I mean, Trump has basically already said it's going to be a woman.

He's basically said that.

He hasn't guaranteed it, but he's hinted to it strongly publicly.

So I would be very surprised if he went down.

I mean, check the genitals of all your Supreme Court justices.

It's very important.

Mike Lee just generally talked about a high voice.

Well, he could identify.

I guess he could change his identity.

I identified today as a woman.

Yeah, there you go.

And that would be what a way to honor Justice Kinsberg

for Mike Lee to identify as a woman and become the next Supreme Court justice.

I think that's absolutely great.

I think that's absolutely right.

So, how is this going to shape up?

Who are they going to be able to get 50 votes?

The Republicans.

Can they get 50 votes?

So, look at some of the other names.

You have Romney, which is a big one.

Now, I think Romney, theoretically, would vote for, let's say, a moderate.

You know what I mean?

If they came to the table and said, look, we have a uniting nominee, and it's not just

some right-winger.

Right.

Like,

this is so where this is going to go, isn't it?

They're going to not, the Republicans are going to nominate Merrick Garland at the end of this.

You wait.

That's what's going to happen.

But I mean, I think that.

Wait, wait.

If they lose the election and they can't get it through, it might be a good

second throw.

Because if you've lost already and

you can't get over 50 with a conservative, do you go to a...

And again, Garland was not a Ginsburg.

Garland was

more of a Kagan, right?

A left-leaner

certainly would be against us on most things, but not nearly as bad as Ginsburg is.

Do you go?

And also, by the way, not young.

So would you go with ⁇

you're going to find a moderate nominee that's like 89

and just nominate them.

But you have the,

that could be, that's if they were to lose the election in the land duck section.

Not now.

But you're going to lose.

You've already lost Collins and Murkowski.

They both said no, on principle, no one.

They won't vote for anyone.

Now, would that change if you did, if you said Merrick Garland?

Maybe it would.

Romney is going to be super squishy on this.

Now, people like, there's also people like Lindsey Graham in South Carolina who has said he would never do this.

Hold my words against me.

I will never do this.

But he's come out.

He folds like a cheap suit.

He will say anything to any audience at any time for any advantage.

Any order.

And that's Lindsey Graham.

We've already seen that happen 20,000 times.

He'll do whatever he thinks is best for him that day.

So he might even lead the charge.

Yes, he might be.

Yes, the most passionate defender.

So I don't think you'll lose him.

Chuck Grassley is another one who said he wouldn't do it.

I feel like you probably won't lose him either.

I think he'll probably come around.

It's going to be close, though.

You've already lost two, so you're down to 51.

You can lose one more.

I mean, Romney is a really good name.

You'd be surprised to see Romney come out on the right side of this one.

I mean, I have to say at this point, I would be surprised.

But maybe he'll surprise us.

And are you going to find, you know, there's also people like Corey Gardner who are in the middle of a race where they're losing in Colorado, a blue state at this point?

There's a lot of those senators who are in that sort of situation, that if they come out and back an unpopular nominee in this moment, that might hurt their reelection chances.

If I'm Corey Gardner, I'm going to say to myself,

how am I going to get birth control banned, first of all?

Because he still hasn't done that.

We were told he was going to do that.

But he's got to say to himself, I have a legacy here.

If I actually care about conservative values, this is a huge moment.

You have Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the most liberal justice perhaps we've ever seen in the history of the United States, and you have a chance to replace her with an actual conservative or even a moderate would be a massive improvement over this court right now.

You have to do it.

So does he do it this week?

Does he do it?

Does Trump

nominate somebody?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

100% chance Donald Trump will nominate someone.

The only thing is, if they're worried about some vetting issue on a specific name, but Amy Coney Barrett, for example, has already just gotten a name.

He's already got the names.

He already has the name.

He's already been vetted, right?

He's already announced them.

Yeah.

So, yes, pick and go.

If it's Mike Lee, I guarantee Romney doesn't vote for him.

Oh, guarantee it.

Guarantee it.

Guarantee it.

Let me tell you this, too.

Somebody doesn't.

You could nominate Jesus or Margaret Sanger, and they will make both of them in the Republican, in the Democrats, they will make both of them, they would argue either of those because it's a Donald Trump selection.

Yeah.

Yes.

Margaret Sanger.

Margaret Sanger.

She's dead, you know.

Why are you always tearing her down?

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I can't believe I'm going to say this on national radio.

It would be so unpopular.

What she's about to talk about is they're closing all the bars and the restaurants in London and in England,

just like we have here.

And they're not opening them up.

And some people are starting to open them up with more than 50 people.

And they're, you know, getting fines and everything else.

And she said,

What if the government banned the sale of alcohol completely until we had a vaccine?

At least in America, I think there's probably 50% of the nation saying alcohol is the only thing getting me through this.

It's definitely been a factor.

Yeah,

I don't think.

She would be, I think Boris drinks, doesn't he?

He certainly looks like he's drunk all the time.

He does.

He does.

Yeah, that would be a shocking development.

Of course, like, you know, this is what they do, right?

Everyone has to have their centralized government solution to every problem.

Winston Churchill would not go for that.

He was a huge drinker.

When he would come to the United States, we were in prohibition.

And he would come to the United States, and he actually had a doctor write a prescription that he kept in his wallet and said,

This is Winston Churchill, member of parliament.

I'm Dr.

So-and-so.

He must have at least this much for lunch, this much for breakfast, this much for dinner.

Drink for breakfast.

He drank all the time.

Oh, yeah.

All the time.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

No,

I don't know that that's an actual doctor he got a prescription from.

He doesn't see.

Can you imagine a doctor's note and prohibition?

I got to have it.

Dr.

Pepper?

Yeah.

I don't think that's a doctor.

He's a doctor.

Don't make fun of him.

He's a doctor.

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Hello, America.

Justice Ginsburg passed on this weekend.

You had to be high up in the mountains trapped by a fire if you hadn't heard that.

But she has passed on.

We, of course, send our condolences to her family and our prayers for their pain.

But we also are moving on forward.

This election, I have a feeling, may be decided by the Supreme Court.

That's why the left is fighting this so much.

They want this nominee or they want a tied court because it's not a 5-3 court.

John Roberts is on the side of the liberals.

We've seen it every single time.

He is a liberal judge.

He's not a conservative judge.

4-4, it would be tied in the Supreme Court.

That would mean it would go back to a lower court, like a lower court maybe in Pennsylvania.

We have somebody who just won in Pennsylvania, the attorney for the Pennsylvania counties that were fighting the COVID-19 lockdown.

I'd like to hear how close that was.

We have this happening now around the country where these lockdowns are being deemed unconstitutional and what it means for the state and what the lower courts in Pennsylvania might mean

for Pennsylvania and the rest of the country.

All that begins in 60 seconds.

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Thomas King is the attorney in Pennsylvania that went into court fighting the COVID-19 lockdown.

We welcome him to the program now.

How are you, sir?

Oh, I'm just fine.

Thank you, Glenn.

I'm honored to be here.

Thank you.

Congratulations on the win.

Tell me what you were fighting and how it went.

We were fighting the governor of Pennsylvania and the Secretary of Health, like in a lot of places across the country, decided that it would be a great idea to lock down 13 million Pennsylvanians in their homes and to shut down half of our businesses, to put people out of work in order to

on the guys that they were going to protect the public health.

They also prohibited people from attending rallies for 250 people or more or any sort of events, although our governor marched in a protest that had hundreds of people, and our health secretary did a secret deal that came out in our case that allowed 20,000 people a day to go to a car show in Carlisle, and they told President Trump he couldn't come to Gettysburg and accept the Republican nomination if he had more than 250 people.

Wow.

So what happened in the court case?

We were in front of Judge William Stickman in the federal court in the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania.

And Judge Stickman last week issued a wonderful opinion and order upholding the constitutional rights of Pennsylvanians, striking down their stay-at-home orders, their business closure orders, and their congregate number orders, allowing people to

go watch their kids play high school football, have weddings, have political events.

And so, Pennsylvania,

the yoke of the governor and Secretary of Health were lifted by a federal court from our backs and shoulders in Pennsylvania last week.

Are they going to argue and take it up to a higher court?

Oh, they are.

They've already said that they intend to appeal.

Actually, we have until noon today to tell Judge Stickman why he should not stay the order.

And so,

after I get off this interview, we're going to be filing with Judge Stickman and telling him to stick to his guns and

do not issue a stay.

So we hope that we're successful and Pennsylvanians are breathing

some breath of freedom here today, Glenn.

There's some frightening things happening in Pennsylvania now with

the

vote that is coming up.

You're looking now, it's going in through your highest court on

they're trying to get this cleared through the court to be able to say you don't need a postmark for your mail-in ballot until the Friday after the election.

There's no way people will.

You think that they will rule against it?

They already have, and it's worse than that.

They've okayed

putting in these collection bins,

much of which is being funded by Mark Zuckerberg.

$250 million was put into

a very small charity

he's now using to try to

fund the blue cities and counties to put in these boxes and really to obviate what have been years and years of election law in Pennsylvania.

Our Supreme Court has already ruled that recently, this past week, they've ruled that they're going to be able to count ballots three days after the presidential election.

And they're going to collect these things in bins, so there's not going to be any postmarks

on most of these ballots.

So it's really abominable.

I look for

almost instantaneous challenges.

I suspect that the House of Representatives will file a challenge here, and that will be in federal court, not in the state Supreme Court where the Democrats hold a five to two majority in our state Supreme Court.

Because this won't, this won't.

Americans won't accept things like that.

I mean, you know, the rest of the country.

Pennsylvanians might, but the rest of the country country won't.

If you didn't play by the rules and you can just throw things in even without a postmark,

you know, three up to three days after the election,

who's going to believe that's real?

Well, I don't believe it's real, and

I don't think most Pennsylvanians think it's real, but it is certainly where we are today.

And this so-called new normal, you know, when Judge Dickman said there is no new normal

under the United States Constitution.

There is no new normal.

We have a Constitution, and that's what we have to abide by.

It's bad news, Glenn.

It's really bad news.

I don't think people are going to stand for it.

Are good

attorneys who are on the right, are they volunteering their time to fight and to monitor and to be there to be able to file the other side?

Because we know the left has attorneys already assigned all over the country.

Yeah,

we have lots of legal power.

We have, just from our case, we've received literally dozens and dozens of offers and calls.

And so we also know that in Pennsylvania, we have terrific lawyers representing the Republican Party and

the people in this particular fight.

So I look forward to a real battle here over these recent pronouncements from the Supreme Court.

All right, let me just take you back one last question on Pennsylvania and the ruling that happened last week with you,

where you got a judge to say these things

are unconstitutional.

You can't lock the people up like this for COVID.

If the judge grants the stay,

then that means it goes to

the higher court, right?

No.

Well,

whether he grants the stay or not, it's going to go to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and the Virgin Islands.

And so it'll go to that court, which is the court right below the U.S.

Supreme Court.

But

what does he have to rule so you can start to open things up?

He just has to deny the stay application.

Deny the stay.

Yeah, and that's today.

Now, they can also file again for a stay in the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.

So we'll see what happens there as well.

Okay.

Thank you very much, Thomas.

I appreciate it.

Thomas King, attorney for the Pennsylvania counties that were fighting COVID-19.

Reason why we need to have Donald Trump to nominate somebody really strong and the Republicans to actually do their job.

Why you would vote for a Republican if they can't get this done.

I mean, let's go over the, you know, let me take a quick break and I want to go over the stats.

Historically, what the Democrats Democrats said in 2016, where you had to do it, was wrong.

And hear me out.

Where they're saying, you know, this is historic precedent and you can't do it, they're wrong.

They were wrong both times.

How can that be?

Well, if you know history, you'll understand how that can be.

And we'll go over that in 60 seconds.

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Welcome to the program.

You all right?

Yeah, I'm okay.

This is hard.

This is very hard, taking a lot, lot of concentration.

All my concentration I can muster up.

And this is the result.

And what we've heard so far is the result of that.

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

I just want to make sure.

You weren't saying you were just starting to concentrate now.

Nope.

Nope.

This is as good as it's going to get today.

It's going to be an interesting time.

I threw my back out on Saturday, and it's the thoracic part of my back.

So it's the middle of my back, which I've never thrown out before.

Have you ever done that?

No, no.

That's never happened to me before.

Oh, my gosh.

I mean, at least I'm mobile with this, but it feels like you have broken ribs.

It feels like, you know, when you were a kid and you'd always, you'd get the breath knocked out of you and you'd be like,

that's the way it feels.

And that's not something I missed from childhood, you know?

No?

No.

No.

I mean, didn't that used to happen a lot to you as a kid?

You'd get the breath knocked out.

You'd fall or something.

You'd be like,

you're constantly death-defying.

Right.

And it doesn't happen as an adult.

I'm glad, but I'm wondering why.

Well, we all design our lives to be pampered to a level that that does not occur.

Right?

Like when you're young, you're taking risks.

You're running around.

You're exercising.

Now, we put ourselves in our little, our little automobiles.

We drive around.

That's how we move.

You know, we come home.

We get inside.

It's air-conditioned.

You know, we come up with a nice little life here.

Yeah.

And most of it's designed to.

To not give you the

breathe kind of feeling exactly because that means exertion of some sort.

Well, it didn't for me.

Didn't for me.

You just fell over.

You were like chasing that last declare and fell over.

No, I didn't even fall over.

I just reached for a paintbrush.

And that was it.

That was it.

That was the last time I really put my back out bad.

I reached for a pencil.

You remember?

I do.

Pencil incident.

And yeah, and the pencil incident, the great pencil incident of what, 2011 happened.

But your Iraq is basically what you're saying.

Yes.

And we may need to appoint a new Marshal Ruler.

Yeah, I might want to.

Ginsburg-esque shape, honestly, at this point.

Well, thank you for that.

So Ginsburg passed away.

My favorite response, I got to play this again.

My favorite response had to come on Friday as a woman, obviously on the East Coast, was driving or the West Coast was driving home because it was still sunlight.

And

she said,

I just heard that Ginsburg died.

Listen to this.

Holy fing

you guys.

I'm driving a car, but I just got a notification that Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.

Could this year get any f

worse?

You just had to make it to 2021.

Could

this year get any worse?

The answer to that is uh-huh.

Yes, it, yes, it really can.

It's answered every day.

Right.

Yes, the answer is always yes.

Okay, so now let's go through history a bit on why the Senate, why the Democrats were wrong in 2016 when they said, you have to nominate and let the system work.

They were wrong.

And yet now, when they say you can't let the system work, they're wrong again.

This is not partisan politics per se.

This is not, I shouldn't say, this isn't history-breaking partisan politics.

And correct me if I'm wrong on any of these numbers, because I probably will be.

In the history of America, 19, should you explain this?

You can't explain numbers on good days.

You on drugs, you may come up with a sound that you think is a number.

There were 19 little elves.

There were 11 numbers of justices.

So there were

19 times this happened.

In the 19 times that this has happened in the past,

where it has been an administration and a Senate and

they were both by the same parties.

You have me so far?

Yeah.

Both parties, or the same party, had the Senate and the administration.

Yeah.

And they were on their way out.

19 times that has happened.

And out of those 19 times, 16 of those times.

Okay, I'm just going to write this down.

16 of the 19.

Okay.

Is that right?

We're going to check your work here in a second.

Okay.

16.

Why am I doing this if it's wrong?

16 out of the 19 times, it went through.

And

they got a nominee.

Right.

So when the parties were aligned, party presidency and senate were aligned in an election year.

They made the nomination, by the way, every time.

Every time.

No matter what the circumstance was.

But 16 of the 19 went through when it was the same party, okay?

Okay.

Now, when one party had the White House and the other party had the Senate,

there were 10 times that that has happened.

Okay.

10.

And only two of them were successful.

Two of them were successful.

Let's check your work with Ted Cruz.

Let's listen.

If you look at history, if you actually look at what the precedent is, this has happened 29 times.

29 times.

29 times.

There has been a vacancy in a presidential election year.

Now, presidents have made nominations all 29 times.

That's what presidents do.

If there's a vacancy, they make a nomination.

What has the Senate done?

And there's a big difference in the Senate with whether the Senate is of the same party of the president or a different party of the president.

When the Senate has been of the same party of the president, a vacancy occurs in an election year, Of the 29 times, those are 19 of them.

Of those 19, the Senate has confirmed those nominees 17 times.

So if the parties are the same, the Senate confirms the nominee.

When the parties are different, that's happened 10 times.

Merrick Garland was one of them.

Of those 10, the Senate has confirmed the nominees only twice.

Wow.

And there's a reason for that.

It's not just simply your party, my party.

The reason is it's a question of checks and balances.

In order for a Supreme Court nomination to go forward, you have to have the president.

and the Senate.

In this instance, the American people voted.

They elected Donald Trump.

A big part of the reason they elected Donald Donald Trump is because of the Scalia vacancy and they wanted principled constitutionalists on the court.

And a big part of the reason why we have a Republican majority elected in 2014, re-elected in 2016, grown even larger in 2018, a major issue in each of those elections is the American people voted and said, we want constitutionalist judges.

And so the president was elected to do this, and the Senate was elected to confirm this nomination.

It's a pretty good case.

And by the way, you said the only difference you had was it was 16 of the 19 you said.

It was 17 of the 19, according to Cruz.

Pretty good, though, by you.

Thank you very much.

Maybe the drugs are improving your show.

So they were wrong on both times.

They're wrong this time, saying that he can't do it.

That sets a horrible precedent.

No.

It happens all the time.

It happens all the time.

And anybody who says, you know, Donald Trump shouldn't or couldn't get somebody through, 17 out of the 19 times where they've had

the Senate and the presidency, it has worked.

Out of 19, 17 times.

Pretty convincing case that there's a difference here.

However, I mean, that's not necessarily the way they always argued it in 2016.

So there's plenty of clips that would show them as being ignorant.

Let's just do this.

I think the most important thing is Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, you got to put on a skirt.

Start wearing a skirt today

because

you need to say that you're transitioning to be a woman because that's what's coming.

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we have one of the most unpredictable guests, which is why I find him fascinating, John Ziegler on with us.

I read an article from him last week about the conservative argument against mask mandates is stronger than the media pretends.

And I had to read it.

And it is, it's the best thought out

answer on why we're all saying, why is it Republicans are not wearing it and Democrats are, and even on this, we're divided.

Welcome to the program, John.

Glenn, always good to talk to you.

Good to talk to you.

Any thoughts on the passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and what should happen?

Sure.

As you know, I'm being unpredictable.

I have been in the never Trump category for a very long time, but I have to say I'm...

I'm rather appalled by people like the Lincoln Project

who claim to be conservatives, who, who, let's be clear now, in the last few months we've learned they're in favor of mask mandates, endless government lockdowns, BLM riots,

big tech censorship, 100% democratic control of everything, Kamala Harris being a future president, but they're now against conservatives being named to the Supreme Court.

We're living in bizarro world time.

We really are.

And

so, you know, emotionally, as a libertarian conservative, I would love to see the Ginsburg seat somehow go to a non-lunatic and

into a conservative.

I have to say, though, Glenn,

you know, if Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump are able to pull this off, I will be exceedingly impressed.

I think this is going to be a very uphill battle because politically,

what's interesting is, do they have enough time to do this before the election?

And then after election, obviously, if Trump loses, all of the dynamics change, and I don't know that they'll be able to make it happen.

However, having lost chess battles in real life to Mitch McConnell during my days in Louisville, Kentucky, I would never want to play chess against Mitch McConnell ever again.

If there's somebody that can do this, it's him.

But this will really test

all of his faculties to be able to pull this off.

So, philosophically, I would love to see it.

I just, you know, as you know, I'm a pessimist by nature, and I think it'll be very difficult to do.

Well, I mean, with an exception of Romney, we've already lost two, but we knew those two Republicans were going to fold.

I think Romney is going to fold.

So they can afford to lose one more, and then they would have 50 votes.

But can they hold that together?

Can they hold that together for a good conservative judge?

Well, but also there's a time factor, and that's why I find it fascinating before the election.

You think there's enough time before the election?

Sure, there is.

Sure there is.

Sure there is.

Really?

Okay.

I mean,

he already has the list of people.

He should announce it today or tomorrow.

And let's get going.

I mean, what do you need?

What do you need?

Well,

I think the problem there is, and you know the Senate being this club, basically,

you might lose a couple of people under the, we're rushing this through right before an election

situation.

Republic's at stake.

Right, exactly.

Well, look, I'm with, Glenn, I'm with you on this one, right?

So, but I'm just looking at this realistically and what a bunch of wimps Republicans tend to be,

especially you're this close to an election.

I'll be impressed if it happens.

Yeah, look at it that way.

All right, so go through your argument on why the conservative argument against mass mandates is stronger than the media pretends.

Well, I've said from the beginning of this whole saga, this crisis, this fiasco, whatever, and all the things, I think all those words are accurate to describe this.

I wrote very early on that the the media was only going to tell one side of this story because there's unique aspects to this story that facilitate only one side being told.

If no other reason than the fact that if you're on the other side, you're perceived as pro-death, right?

So nobody wants to be perceived as pro-death.

And the agenda in the media

in this situation is obvious.

It's extraordinary.

Trump plays a big role in that.

And I think that mask mandates are a perfect example of where only one side of this story is being told.

I'm a libertarian by nature.

I find it abhorrent that the government would be able to tell me with penalties attached to it that I have to wear a mask even in situations where I'm not even endangering anybody

and that there's no end.

There's no end date to this.

Because once you start doing this, when do you possibly ever end it?

I don't think there'll ever be an end date.

I mean, my gosh, if we're doing this now, why wouldn't we do this during every flu season if it works?

But to me, the biggest issue, Glenn, is the burden of proof here for whether or not this is justified ought to be very high.

And it has not been reached at all.

I look every single day at the stats like a lot of people do, and I can't find any real-world evidence that these mask mandates actually work.

The only theories or studies that indicate that they do are totally theoretical based upon the projections of the people who are making them, which is absurd.

I mean, it's like if you're coaching an NFL football team and you said, you know, we're terrible.

We're going to go 0-16 this year.

And then

through the season, you end up going 8-8, which is mediocre.

And you claim, well, I saved us eight losses this year.

I mean, that's not the way it works.

In the real world, when you look at the actual stats, there's no place that I can find in America or even around the world where you can point to and say, wow, we put in mask mandates and all of a sudden cases, hospitalizations, and deaths

gradually went down and stayed down.

In fact, it's very much been the opposite.

It's almost like if we invented birth control and in 11 months, we had the massive spike in births.

I mean, that's basically what's happened all over the world.

And yet, no one wants to accept it.

And here's the, to me, Glenn, this is the part that no one's getting.

And this is the really dangerous part for America.

Because what I believe the mask has become is effectively a cover-up for how the experts screwed this whole thing up from the beginning.

They were almost entirely wrong and they're going to use masks to effectively cover that up and they're going to claim that it's the mask that is the only thing that is holding us together, why we haven't completely burned down, why their projections were wrong.

when in fact, one, the virus isn't nearly as bad as we were told.

Two, herd immunity, or as Trump calls it, herd mentality, is far easierly attained than they told us, which, if true, if that turns out to be true, will be the most catastrophic, most impactful scientific mistake in the modern era, which they will not be able to admit to.

So instead, it will be claimed that masks are the reason.

This is the Biden theory of now having a federal mask mandate, which is going to cause all sorts of other problems if he, in fact, does this, which I think he would if elected.

And what we're going to end up having here is a game of pretend.

We're going to be pretending that the virus is at a very low level and fading away because of masks, when in reality, it's because it was never as bad as expected and because we have developed at least some semblance of herd immunity.

And this is why, to me, the mask situation is so incredibly dangerous for the future of America, because if we accept that, Glenn, stick a fork in us, they can do anything they want to us.

So tell me what, I mean, because I know you went down to your, I think it was your city council, and you were quite vocal about the mask mandate.

Oh, you saw that, huh?

Oh,

I think everybody.

A million people around the world, I think, saw it.

That was quite a remarkable.

But

you were animated, and you made your case.

And why are these people doing this then?

Are they just ignorant?

Do they have another plan?

Why is this happening?

Well, Glenn, as you know, I'm not a doctor, but I could teach a PhD course in media narratives right and and and this is a classic situation so how did this happen and and how this happened i think is is is a very key question to understanding the whole thing one of my great uh one of the great mysteries about this is why is it that the mask nazis are not furious at dr fauci and the cdc and the surgeon general who all at the beginning of this uh downplayed masks said we don't need to wear them back when in in march and april when we really did, if they work, my gosh, you know, we really did need them.

I mean, thousands of thousands of people, especially in the New York area, died, I guess, if masks are so effective, because Fauci and others were against them.

They were against them because the science never

indicated that they were needed, that they were effective, that this was a situation that was going to actually do any good.

What changed?

What changed were two things.

Americans got incredibly fearful.

And like children afraid of a monster under their bed, they needed a security blanket.

They needed the illusion of control.

And so it made them feel good.

And when you combine that with the fact that the mask became a virtue signal of people's opposition to Trump, And let's be clear, that's what happened on the left.

The mask became a virtue signal of opposition to Trump.

And you combine that with the fear factor, something happened that no one ever expected.

That a freedom-loving country like America would have a massive majority of people in favor of being forced to wear masks.

No one thought that was possible.

But once it becomes incredibly popular, an expert like Dr.

Fauci and others has no choice but to go along.

Because if they don't go along, they lose their fan base, which is very important to Dr.

Fauci, and they lose their status as the expert.

So they switch their position 180 degrees, but somehow they don't get any blowback for having been wrong at the beginning.

And that was the source of my

outrage at our county supervisors because our health director has been wrong even more than Fauci has been from the beginning of all this, was actually against mask mandates until he suddenly switched and decided they were the most important thing in the world three months into this.

Why?

Because it was politically now the popular thing to do.

And that's why it's not valid.

And now we're pretending.

We're pretending as if, you know, this has really become a religion.

It's really a religious situation where you must pay homage to the virus at every moment by allowing the government to force you to wear a mask for which there is no hard evidence it's actually effective.

And in reality, what you're doing is you're creating a cover story for how the experts blew it in the biggest, most catastrophic way possibly imaginable.

John, I'm so fascinated by the process here that's been used because, as you point out, the standard for a mandate should be incredibly high, right, scientifically.

And what it seems to be is that if there is any hope or any sign of any benefit whatsoever, then we will put in a new mandate.

And I would add on to that that it's not just a mandate.

Like, it's not like they're passing laws here, right?

There's no laws being passed.

It's just governors and officials mandating kind of out of thin air that you have to do these things.

So we're getting all of these new standards put on it.

And I hate the government mandate part of this.

And they're doing this without any process.

No legislative process is occurring in almost any of these areas.

It's a really dangerous precedent.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Yeah, because we've completely abandoned our entire process of governance.

We're now living essentially in a monarchy, especially here in California.

We are absolutely living in a monarchy.

King Gavin Newsom is our monarch here, and there's no process.

But let's take this a step further to the Biden federal mask mandate idea, which unfortunately I am very,

guys, I have found myself in the bizarre situation of actually rooting for Trump at times in the last few months.

I know.

It's been

very strange.

I know.

But I care more about my country than I do about

being perceived as anti-Trump.

I would throw that away in a minute

to save my country.

And so I'm very concerned about this Biden thing.

And I don't think the Trump campaign is attacking the Biden mask mandate properly.

They're claiming, they're attacking this as he's flip-flopping on this.

That's not the way to go after this.

The way to go after this is, first of all, he doesn't have the authority.

Second of all, it's not needed.

Third of all, think about the massive confusion, chaos, and division it will sow if, especially if the virus is as under control as I believe it will be by late January of

21, having nothing to do with masks, that he then declares that federally, federally, we are all mandated, even though we can't enforce it, we admit that we're all federally mandated to wear a mask.

If you're in a state, like a red state, that doesn't have a mask mandate,

who's in charge?

What's the law?

What's the rule?

I mean, there's going to be massive confusion in schools, at sporting events, in restaurants, businesses.

It's going to be a civil war.

He's going to, for no end, to no actual effective end, all so that he can virtue signal to his base that he's pro-mass.

Yeah, so say this is the way you attack this.

That's the only reason why we asked that question is because we knew finally we could get John to start just going off.

And now his blood is pumping and he'll be up all day.

Even though he got up early for us in Los Angeles.

Thank you so much, John Ziegler.

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Here's Joe Biden supporting a nominee in an election year for the Supreme Court.

I made it absolutely clear that I would go forward with the confirmation progress process as chairman, even a few months before presidential election, if the nominee were chosen with the advice and not merely the consent of the Senate.

Okay, so you got that.

Just as the Constitution requires.

Oh, yes, it does.

It does require that.

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Here's Nancy Pelosi

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Some have mentioned the possibility if they try to push through a nominee in a lame duck session, that you in the House could move to impeach

President Trump or Attorney General Barr as a way of stalling and preventing the Senate from acting on this nomination.

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Hello, JC.

You're on the Glenn Beck program.

Good morning, Glenn.

How are you?

Thank you for taking my call.

You bet.

First-time caller.

I just wanted to look at some conservative talking points.

My question is: as an African-American veteran entrepreneur, is when we look at it, what's being discussed in my circles is how it's not fair, it's a hypocrisy for social justice.

What I mean by that, illegal sanctuary city policies break the law, they're released.

Blacks incarcerated, we have to stay in.

We don't have funding for attorneys, things of that nature.

My circles are very upset about that because we're not hearing the attention of that from conservative or

libertarian talking points and viewpoints.

We hear about the lowest unemployment rate, okay, I got it, but something that matters more that we can see and put our hands on that's tangible is how it's not fair.

But to turn around and say that, hey, we're all for social justice.

We're looking out for you're saying black lives matter when all lives matter.

It's not resonating.

It's upsetting and it's a hypocrisy.

And I don't know why that's happening.

So tell me what you want to hear again from Republicans.

What I would like to hear from Republicans is why not go at the Democrats and call them out on it?

This is what my family is going to be talking about after we finish churches.

How come Republicans don't come out and say, hey, you voted for Democrats and Democrats are letting illegals who broke the law.

And then by entering the country, one, two, they're breaking another law in the sanctuary city.

The policies are allowing them to go free.

The same jurisdictions aren't supporting or working with federal municipalities or whatnot, but we get a DUI or whatever that it may be.

We're stuck in jail.

We don't have anybody to call to get funding.

So we would love to hear Republicans to say, Why are you voting for that?

You vote for us.

We'll change the law, and that helps benefit you just the same.

And it levels the playing field.

They don't say it.

Okay, so

I think that you're going to see more of that.

They're not ones to generally, neither am I, to generally bring race into things.

But I think that

just

the lack of action and voice from the Republican Party,

real

voice against what's happening in our country and the burning down of cities.

These parts of these cities that are being burnt are black owned, and it's going to take them at least a decade to be able to rebuild and get the insurance rates to go back down and be able to be a real successful entrepreneur there.

And it's done by a bunch of white people.

And the Democrats are supporting this.

The Democrats, do you see Nancy Pelosi came out this weekend and finally said,

you know,

these riots have got to stop.

Wait a minute, I thought they were peaceful protesters.

And we should do something to punish these people that are doing this.

Really?

Why is that?

Because the polls have changed?

I mean,

I don't know how this isn't causing more problems with race and race relations because every time I look at these riots, it's a majority of white people burning down black people's homes and businesses.

Am I anywhere?

Do we lose him?

We must have lost him.

Should have spent two on point.

Let me go to Rick in Texas.

Hello, Rick.

Hello.

I want to let everybody know there's a public vote going on, and you can vote on it nationwide.

It's going to be...

It's going to determine whether the Alamo Cenotaph War Monument stays on the Alamo grounds or is permanently removed.

And anybody in the nation can vote on this, and it's really simple.

The deadline is 8 o'clock tonight Central Time.

So we got all day today.

Okay, so what's the web address on this?

I just heard about this over the weekend.

Yes, sir.

Save the Alamo.us,

not dot com.

Save the Alamo.us.

You read the article there, you go down, and it gives you a link, and it shoots you straight over to where you register and cash.

So, rick get correct me if i'm wrong i just heard about this and i didn't realize the deadline was today but the the movement is to take the the alamo war story out of the story of the alamo and to imagine the alamo space over a 10 000 year period and so it's a space that will tell the whole story of what that space was like over the last 10 000 years so they're de-emphasizing what the Alamo actually means.

Is this the same thing you're talking about?

Yes, you're exactly correct.

And they've tried to deny that.

But just two weeks ago, one of their main planners came out publicly on the radio and said that the Alamo story of the fight for freedom is, quote, a mythology.

It's wrong.

It's bunk.

We don't want that because it perpetuates a lie.

So that's the exact motivation behind this.

Okay, thank you.

I didn't know it was happening tonight.

Thank you, thank you.

Save the Alamo.us.

Thanks for calling in.

You have till 8 p.m.

tonight.

Tell everyone you know, tell everyone you know to go there, read it, and if you agree with it, make sure you vote to keep the Alamo.

This is yet another attempt.

This is the 1619 project, but it's in Texas.

And one of the reasons I moved to Texas was because I heard that they were starting to not teach the the truth about the Alamo.

The Alamo is very well documented.

We know exactly what happened.

And here were a group of Americans that were fighting for the freedom of Mexico.

They weren't fighting for Texas.

They were fighting for the freedom of the Mexicans.

They were heroes.

And the reason why we got into a fight with the Mexicans afterwards is because they killed these guys.

The Mexican oppressor at the time was a really bad guy,

and we heard their plight.

Several Americans, the last few that were remaining,

these guys were there and they knew they were facing certain death.

You can't teach this anymore.

Now it's a symbol of oppression.

in a lot of places, at least, I mean, including Texas.

But now they've decided decided they're going to go the last step, and that is take out all of the Alamo war story

and make it about that sacred land that has been sacred for 10,000 years, long before America, and

it'll be safe and a sanctuary long after America.

And believe me, if they could remove the chapel on it, they would.

This

is American history.

This is like saying, here's Independence Hall, but we're not going to talk about the Declaration of Independence.

We're not going to talk about what happened there.

That's insanity.

Please go to savethealamo.org.us.

Or sorry,.us,

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and vote to save the Alamo.

You have till 8 o'clock tonight, at least according to this caller.

But

I did hear about it this weekend.

Somebody said, Glenn, you got to talk about this.

I didn't realize it was today.

I heard it from QAnon.

Oh, did you know?

No, I'm just kidding.

This is not a conspiracy theory.

This is real.

This is, you never know.

I mean, you never know.

You know, now.

Let me go to Ben in Missouri.

Hello, Ben.

Hello?

Hi, you're on.

I'm in Michigan,

Missouri.

Okay.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, no worries.

My question to you guys and to

the talker before, these mask mandates,

I have anxiety with mask mandates.

I feel like everybody's a puppet.

It's not a good thing.

And I live in Michigan, where it's pretty dang mandatory.

And if we have Justice

Ruth Bader-Ginsburg's nominee not happen and everything else, I'm worried, like you were talking about, that these mask mandates are going to be forever.

and then I just constantly have to have this anxiety for the rest of my life so so here's the thing first of all Ben don't my mother used to always say don't borrow trouble don't borrow the trouble from the future so just worry about the things that you can worry that you need that you need to worry about today so don't get anxiety you know about a mask mandate that's going to happen let's see what let's see what happens and i will tell you that right now the the mask mandate and all these mandates they all fell by the wayside in Pennsylvania.

We're going to see some more action on that today.

But I don't believe that these things are going to stand.

And honestly, if we start getting mask mandates and being locked down until 2022 is what they're actually saying now, if that happens, you're going to have anxiety over something else.

The mask will be the least of your worries.

Of other things.

My business is destroyed and everything else is happening.

But

I live in Michigan, so this is what's happening.

But yeah,

what do you think if

Trump does nominee somebody

and

the Pennsylvania stuff goes to the Supreme Court,

is the Supreme Court going to hold up

their ruling?

I don't know.

I mean, that's why it's important for Donald Trump to be able to get the right person in.

And this is probably the most important selection because we cannot have another Justice Roberts.

You can't count on Roberts.

Roberts is not a conservative.

Every time he could vote on the things that really matter, every time he could vote for the Constitution, he fails in that.

He is, I think he is worried about legacy.

I don't know what has gotten to him, but something got to him, and

he has become very,

very undependable.

And in fact, I think,

you know, on the other side, if you will.

Yeah, I think he's very dependable.

He's just

a very good idea.

Yeah, not dependable for a conservative.

So this one has to be a dependable

conservative.

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Let me go to Pat in Pennsylvania.

Hello, Pat.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn.

Thank you very much for taking my call.

I really enjoy your show.

Two quick things, a comment and a question.

Yes.

The comment is: I live in Washington County, about 12 miles south of Pittsburgh, and I am furious with the Republicans here in the state doing nothing.

And I just want to thank that attorney and you for having him on.

Yeah, can you pick up your phone if you're on speakerphone?

Can you pick it up by chance?

Okay, go ahead.

I just want to thank you you for having the attorney, the attorney for being on your show, for someone to fight back against Governor Wolf, because the Republicans here are doing nothing.

So I just want to thank you for that.

This is crazy.

I don't know what's wrong with Republicans.

They're afraid of their own shadow.

They have the Constitution on their side and a group of people so willing to stand up for them.

They're just lost.

They're just lost.

Glenn, they have the facts and history behind them that they can support, and they never use it, and it drives me absolutely nuts.

So it's really a shame.

And thank God for President Trump because he does push back and fight back, and that's why we love him.

Every day that goes by, I think

how wrong I was

about some of the things that I thought were his biggest

flaws.

I think he's the only one that actually has gotten into office and really has just plowed right through him.

And it's because of the way he behaves.

He's out of the system, literally just completely foreign to the system, and the system doesn't know how to fight it.

And it's important right now.

And also, he's a businessman.

He solves problems.

Politicians talk.

He solves problems.

And I think that gets missed too, and I think that's a very important point.

Yeah.

Thanks, Pat, for your phone call.

You know, one of the things that Donald Trump said, I think a week ago was it's

more important to me to be a problem solver than the president.

And that's when they were saying, this isn't very presidential.

He's like, I'm just trying to solve the problem.

Mike, Minnesota, you're on.

Wow.

This is such an honor to speak with you, Glimmy.

Wow, thank you.

I just wanted to talk.

You know, I'm up in Bemidji, Minnesota, if anybody's ever heard of that, and nobody probably had until Donald Trump flew in here on Friday, and it was so exciting in this little town.

We're a town of 11,000 people up here, and

seeing his great big plane.

Now, I didn't physically get to go.

They say that there were 15,000 people at the rally.

I have three of my kids were there.

I have 10 children, and three of my children were there.

So I got really good data from them of how it was.

And they sat there for six hours waiting to hear him.

And he spoke for, I think it was pretty nearly two hours.

And everybody that was there was just so

kind, and so

it was just a wonderful experience.

I went to a Bush rally years ago, and I kind of relate to it, but it was so fun having him here.

And this whole town, a little dinky town up in northern Minnesota, that's that's, I think, tends to be on a bit on the liberal side.

We have a college here and stuff, but the Trump signs are everywhere.

And just last week, because they knew that Trump was coming, a few Biden signs went up.

There's a handful of them around town.

And there was a couple of little teeny protests far, far away from the rally.

But

yeah, it was just

what do you think, Mike, is going to happen with Minnesota?

I mean, you guys are at ground zero, and I think Minnesota is really in play for Donald Trump.

I can only speak from my, I really did not want to vote for him last time.

I was a Ted Cruz guy, but I did.

But like I said, I have 10 children.

He got one vote out of my family.

This time, everybody's on board with Trump.

So I can only speak from the people that I know, but he is, I just have never seen this kind of excitement about somebody before.

He actually came through in ways I would have never imagined that he would.

Mike, thanks so much.

Thanks so much.

And thanks for standing.

You know, I think that's the one thing I keep coming back to is the enthusiasm for Joe Biden.

It's just not there.

I mean, Joe Biden's lucky that the pandemic is happening because the crowds for Joe Biden would speak volumes at any other time.

You know, when you have Donald Trump, even Barack Obama didn't do this.

Barack Obama went out, had huge crowds in the first time.

The second time, they had to put him into small, you know, venues because he was not drawing the big crowds because people didn't feel, the voters didn't feel that he was actually still one of them.

Where this time, Donald Trump, the voters are feeling, I think even more, that he is one of them.

And people should notice what a difficult thing this is that Trump is trying to do, getting re-elected in this environment.

I mean, this environment is

grown in a lab as the perfect way for Joe Biden to achieve whatever his highest level is of votes.

I mean, this is exactly what he needed, was to be able to stay out of the spotlight as much as possible.

And, as you point out, take down one of Trump's big strong suits.

I mean, it really is.

He's able to keep Trump out.

You know, he has not had, you know, this is recent where he's had these sorts of crowds, but even these are smaller than the ones he was last

time because of obviously COVID restrictions.

So, I mean, it's a big, it's a big difference, and it's an uphill battle here.

He's trying to fight.

People should remember that.

Yeah, and I think if Trump wins, I really truly believe

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Welcome to the program.

Ginsburg, of course, is the big news of the day.

We wanted to see what we can expect.

The president has announced that he's got a list, a short list now of about five.

In fact, play what he said just this morning.

So you said you'll make the announcement this week.

Can you tell us more about that?

Will it be the beginning of the week?

What day?

I think it'll be on Friday or Saturday.

And we want to pay respect.

It looks like

we will have probably services on Thursday or Friday, as I understand it.

I think, you know, due respect, we should wait till the services are over for Justice Ginsburg.

And so we're looking probably at Friday or maybe Saturday.

So I think that's nice.

I would imagine that there are some radicals out there going, well, just don't bury her for a month

because we can make it in time.

And I think it's really important that the Republicans and the president do this.

We have Carrie Severino on with us.

She is the president of judicial crisis.

And we wanted to talk to her.

And I guess, Carrie, the first question is, do we have enough time to confirm a SCOTUS replacement before the election?

The answer is yes, absolutely.

You look at like Justice O'Connor.

She was confirmed 33 days after her nomination was submitted, and she was unanimously confirmed.

You have Justice Ginsburg herself, 42 days, again, almost unanimously.

And Justice Stevens, 19 days.

Now, that was, you know, that was, you know, a couple decades ago, but we can totally do it.

And what's interesting is all of these women that the president is looking at, they have been recently confirmed by the Senate, and I think all with bipartisan majorities.

So the Senate has seen them recently.

Their information, like their background file from the FBI, all is almost up to date already.

I think there's not a lot standing in the way of moving forward.

We already know, you know, even the senators are familiar with all of these potential nominees already.

Okay, so he said he had a list of five, but three of them we know.

Are you familiar with those three female judges?

Yes.

Yeah.

The three that we hear a lot about

are Amy Coney Barrett.

Obviously, everyone remembers her dogma lives loudly within you moment with Senator Feinstein last year, those anti-Catholic attacks that went on.

She held her own with grace under pressure.

She's the mother of seven, including two children who were adopted from Haiti.

Just a really inspiring story in her life.

Barbara Lagoa, who has spent over a decade in the Florida state courts, now is on the 11th circuit, thanks to Donald Trump.

She is the daughter of Cuban immigrants who really speaks eloquently about her own parents' desire to come here because they wanted their children to grow up in a nation of laws, not a tyrannical government.

And so she's very committed to making sure that the role of a judge is to just interpret the law, not make it up.

And then Allison Rushing is someone else the president mentioned.

She's a fourth circuit nominee.

She is someone who has a distinguished legal career.

She clerked for Justice Thomas like I did.

She also came under fire, like Barrett, during her confirmation process because she'd been involved in the group Alliance Defending Freedom, which stands for religious freedom and things like that.

So she understands also what it's like to be attacked for your faith.

So the one that, I mean, let's just play politics here for a second, then I'll quickly switch to Constitution.

But the one who makes sense, I think, on both sides, politically and also

with the Constitution, is Barbara Lagoa.

I mean, the background of her being Cuban, she's from Florida, Cuban, and then more importantly, being the first American generation, I think those people get it much more than anybody else.

And I think that that's a strong vote for her on sticking to the Constitution.

Would you agree, or all three of them that way?

Who's the best on holding to the Constitution, do you think?

You know, the great thing about these final shortlisters that we're hearing about, honestly, I think all of them would be outstanding.

I could put my seal of approval on all of them in terms of what I've seen of their record on the court.

So that's really encouraging.

Yeah, they all have slightly different stories, but I think all have inspiring stories.

And it's interesting.

They're going to all, thankfully, very much diverge from where Justice Ginsburg would be in terms of her jurisprudence, right?

But I do think they carry on that same tradition of being strong women, you know, being path-breaking in many ways.

You know, in particular, when you think of Barrett, you know, doing all this with seven kids, how many mothers of seven do you know who are that accomplished in their field and have risen that far?

Lagoa, obviously, with her inspiring story of coming here and being the first generation immigrant.

So

these are people who can really fit into

that legacy nicely in terms of all of the best things I think about Justice Ginsburg of her strength and her courage.

Do you see any of these fitting a Scalia or a Thomas kind of standard?

Oh, and that's the reason they're on the list, right?

I mean, you've got people like Barrett, who was a Scalia clerk, and I've heard one of his favorite clerks.

Rushing was a Thomas clerk, and

Lagoa didn't clerk for either of them, but I love that there was a meme that went around right after she was nominated that said, Lagoa, it's Spanish for Clarence Thomas.

And that's really how I think a lot of the conservative movement in Florida views her.

I don't think she has as much, you know, known as much nationally.

But so I think all of them, that's the reason they're picked, is this approach to the law where you look first and foremost at what the text says.

It's not what I wish it said.

It's not what I think in 2020 we should update it to say, it's what did our elected representatives pass?

What does the Constitution itself actually say?

And then, you know, let the chips fall where they may.

And if it's not the result you want, go back to Congress and fix it.

So we're just concerned.

I think all Americans are just concerned that we would have another Roberts pick.

Oh, yes.

You know, that's been devastating.

Devastating.

Well, that's why I think what you're seeing, and this is something that all of Trump's list was really chosen with Roberts in mind.

When Molly Hemming and I were working on a book on the Kavanaugh nomination, Justice on Trial, we learned that part of his vetting process was trying to find the anti-Roberts, someone who they thought would be strong in the face of pressure.

That's why it's so exciting to see people, for example, you know, like

the Barrett or the Russian who got pressured during their confirmation process and nonetheless stood up to it.

You know, Lagoa has had, she already on the 11th Circuit has had people trying to launch politically motivated recusal campaigns, and she stood firm.

She's like, no, I don't have to recuse in this case.

This is an important case.

I'm going to sit on it.

So you have to have someone who has illustrated in their career that they've got that spine.

And what's exciting is all these women have shown they have spines of steel.

But Lago is the only one that hasn't been already in front of

a hearing, right?

Oh, no, she was just recently confirmed to the 11th Circuit by the Senate.

So all three of them have been confirmed by this Senate, well, or this or the previous Senate, but within the Trump administration.

So again, all of their, you know, their vetting has been recently updated.

They have been,

they've gone through that kind of harrowing process once recently.

So I feel like, you know, we're talking about people all of whom are ready.

Well, if you can ever be ready for what we expect is coming, because we know that, you know, the Kavanaugh nomination was crazy.

I don't know how you make it crazier, but I know that there's Democrats right now having brainstorming sessions trying to figure out.

Javi, but you're a little boy that cried wolf.

I mean,

you do that a second time.

I think that galvanized the country.

A lot of people changed their view of what was going on in the Democratic Party because of that.

And to have that kind of an outrageous scene again, I think would be devastating to the Democrats.

Yeah, no, I think you're exactly right.

They totally overstepped, and I think it really hurt them.

Yet somehow, you know, when you look at all the stuff going on, They don't seem to have gotten that message.

I think that the radical edge of the party is, you know, going crazy and they're kind of setting themselves on fire sometimes literally in ways that I don't think is what most Americans, and certainly not independents and the moderate wing of the Democratic Party wants to see.

So

have at it.

Overstep again.

Let's see how that works for you.

Is there anything in their records

that has been drug out that

could be expanded?

Have you seen anything that is bad or not bad, but just like, oh, geez, that's there.

and they had to explain it but it could be made up into something bigger have you seen any trouble or weak spots in any of these people

well there's certainly stuff in their records that's going to get controversy but I think generally it's controversy for all the right reasons you know it's going to get stuff people going oh my gosh how could you have you know there's there's cases where they've all ruled and someone's gonna go well that's a really sympathetic plaintiff and their answer if which is the right answer to be you know what that's what the law said and I don't write the laws that's not my job as a judge yeah so so what I what I have seen is, of course, you're going to get controversy, but I think it's going to be the right kind of controversy on these nominees that we're looking at, and that's really exciting.

Now, none of them have had case in every single area of law, no one has.

But I think we have a lot of really, you know, these are all people with records that we can look at, and that's what it has to come down to, is you look at the objective record that they have.

So, you can see how they really perform on the bench.

Is there anything that the Democrats can do, seeing that the Senate is controlled by the Republicans and a a lot of weenie Republicans.

But is there anything that the Senate can do, the Democrats can do, to stop this dead in its tracks?

Is there any trick

in the parliamentary rules to be able to stop this?

Or

can Mitch McConnell, if he can keep his crowd together, proceed?

I think if he's got 50 votes, he can do it because we've got the vice president, and I hope he gets more than 50 votes.

But, you know, obviously, I am not a Senate rules expert.

That stuff is crazy.

It's really involved.

I'm sure they're out there brainstorming, again, trying to find some hole.

But if they couldn't do it for Kavanaugh, I don't think they're going to be able to find it now.

And, you know,

we'll see crazy stuff going on, like where they, you remember even during the first Kavanaugh hearing where they tried to just talk over Chairman Grassley, it took an hour to get through a 10-minute opening, stuff like that, you know, made-for-TV little moments.

But I don't think they actually, at the end of the day, are going to have to vote.

And last question.

As they go through and you're looking and saying, you know, they need to have 50, we're going to lose Romney, which would bring us 250.

We've got

the two that have already said they're not on board.

And then if you lose Romney, you're at 50.

Is there anybody else that you're concerned that might go?

And you watch any of that stuff?

You know, it's hard to keep track.

I know there's people who they don't want to have a vote now or whatever.

I do think it's going to be hard when you are looking at one of these women in the face and you see the outstanding role models that they are, the pathbreaking careers that they've led.

I think it's going to be hard to come to a point and say, yeah, I don't think this person deserves to vote.

So, you know, we'll see.

I think Leader McConnell knows better than anyone where his votes are, and he's going to be in charge of how to navigate this through the Senate.

He did it for Gorsuch.

He did it for Kavanaugh.

Those were really controversial.

I'm confident he can do that again.

That's great.

Well, I feel so much better talking to you.

Let's please stay in touch because

I'm going to need to stay in a happy mood and I think America needs to.

Carrie, thank you very much for your analysis.

Appreciate it.

Have a great day.

You can follow her at judicialnetwork.com or on Twitter at JCN Severino.

Carrie Severino, President of Judicial Crisis.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

We're just talking about off the air, we're talking about all the things that are going on right now.

I don't know if anyone had the feeling that I had.

It was like Doc Brown when he had that last log that he had to throw into the furnace of the right before the train went over the cliff.

Remember that?

That's the way I felt this

Ginsburg thing was on Friday.

When I heard it, I was like, throw another log on the fire.

As I look at all of the things that are going on

and how unfair the press is and how nobody knows who to believe and

all of this stuff.

How does this not end

with

real violence?

Because

if they don't accept the election

and they drag it on and

or they

do get the election and they win and then they start to pack the court or any of these things, the right's not going to sit around and accept that.

The right's not going to sit around and accept something if they make these boxes in Pennsylvania legal where you don't even have to have a time stamp on

the ballot going in.

They're fighting for four extra days for ballots.

So the election is on Tuesday, but as long as it's postmarked by the following Friday, it's okay.

How do you accept that?

This is crazy.

Crazy.

It's craziness.

We have got to find our way back to some sanity and some traditional rules that all of America is played by forever.

We have to find our way back to that before this election.

And

that's going to be a hard one to do.

Going to be a hard one to do.

You don't seem so optimistic.

No, I'm not.

But I was optimistic.

We should get Carrie back on the phone because I was optimistic about that.

You need more drugs for your back.

Is that what it is?

Okay, thank you.