Dems Flip on the Riots | Guests: Ken Cuccinelli & Michael Anton | 9/1/20
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Speaker 8 Oh my gosh, you know, I thought all this this rioting was caused by Antifa and all of the Democrats that are in office that are funding it, that are backing it, that are bailing people out,
Speaker 8 that are doing nothing about it.
Speaker 16 I thought it was the Democrats.
Speaker 18 And then I heard Joe Biden speak yesterday.
Speaker 20 And oh my gosh, these are not the droids you're looking for.
Speaker 23 It was amazing.
Speaker 8 And he he is so on top of it.
Speaker 26 Let me just give you a quick clip of what he said about COVID in this speech yesterday.
Speaker 29 COVID has taken this year just since the outbreak.
Speaker 30 Just since the outbreak,
Speaker 7 more than 100 years. More than one.
Speaker 30 The lives,
Speaker 32 it's just,
Speaker 33 when you think about it, okay, I am trying.
Speaker 35 More lives this year than any other year
Speaker 37 for the past hundred years.
Speaker 30 Wow, that is.
Speaker 30 And
Speaker 19 this is serious.
Speaker 39 They're actually running this guy.
Speaker 41 But wait, there's more, and we get to it in 60 seconds.
Speaker 43 This is the Glenn Beck program.
Speaker 45 So, Stu, I want you to, I mean, this year since the outbreak and schooling hasn't been, there's a hundred years
Speaker 3 I mean a hundred years of each year. I mean, you know.
Speaker 53 Think about it.
Speaker 12 If you think about it. Schooling.
Speaker 49 There's
Speaker 55 one year per 100 years for every year.
Speaker 56 For schooling.
Speaker 24 I don't think it's obvious.
Speaker 54 Right.
Speaker 3
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We just had a power outage.
Speaker 57 Are we still on?
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I think we should just keep going. As if we are.
That's still on radio.
Speaker 58 Okay.
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Speaker 63 So the 100 years of this year and the schooling and kids are now what?
Speaker 63 At home for 100 years.
Speaker 27 And they don't have
Speaker 30 the wherewithal to
Speaker 68 stop cyber criminals.
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Speaker 69 Can we move up the induction?
Speaker 7 No, we can't.
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Speaker 39 You can never take that away.
Speaker 15 So now...
Speaker 54 I'm trying some. But there are some.
Speaker 30 So you are trying some.
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Speaker 7 Okay.
Speaker 6 Okay.
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Speaker 37 I mean, we had, in my neighborhood, our school alerted us.
Speaker 20 There is somebody that was attacking
Speaker 19 the
Speaker 79 online classes and all of the kids.
Speaker 80 And the police called and said,
Speaker 79 we're about to nail this gang that is trying to get in and,
Speaker 83 you know, do what people do with children, I guess.
Speaker 55 They are everywhere.
Speaker 85 Stu doesn't understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 86 It was a bad,
Speaker 88 looks like a ring of predators.
Speaker 87 And what's really frightening is
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Speaker 87 And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I don't think it's funny, but a lot of my friends think it's funny. We're like,
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Speaker 59 Now,
Speaker 83 I have some good news for you.
Speaker 86 I think that that battle is going to be uphill for them, but they can swing it up to
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Speaker 77 I could be wrong.
Speaker 66 I usually am wrong.
Speaker 98 I want to be really clear.
Speaker 66 I usually am wrong when it comes to politics.
Speaker 18 But let's just wait and see.
Speaker 75 The Democrats, they think they're in trouble, so much so that they think that they can get away with something because apparently their voters are so stupid that they don't remember that for months they've heard nothing but crickets from the left when it comes to condemning the riots and the violence.
Speaker 26 And, I mean, it's been a slow burn horror movie gradually smoldering amongst the desperate Democratic Party that had zero message, zero unity, and facing a serious inner-party civil war.
Speaker 7 So what did they do?
Speaker 108 They just blew,
Speaker 110 hang on, I think I got a spark.
Speaker 112 And they've been trying to get a race or class riot started for a very long time.
Speaker 77 Now, what happens when it looks like it's backfiring on them?
Speaker 33 They're trying to reverse course and not saying, you know what, we made a mistake.
Speaker 63 No, no, no.
Speaker 17 They are acting as if none of that happened.
Speaker 27 Here's clip one one from yesterday, Joe Biden in Philadelphia.
Speaker 29 You know, this is a tragic fact of the matter that about his perilous hour, that how he's dealing with this perilous hour in our nation.
Speaker 29 And now, we have to stand against violence in every form it takes. Violence, we've seen again and again and again, of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force.
Speaker 29 Seven bullets to the back of Jacob Blake, knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and opportunists, right-wing militias, white supremacists, vigilantes,
Speaker 29 you know, who infiltrate protests carrying weapons of war, hoping to wreak havoc and to derail any hope and support for progress.
Speaker 20 That is quite a statement coming from Joe Biden.
Speaker 13 First of all, the American people were not against
Speaker 104 the stopping of any of those guys.
Speaker 115 There was not a problem with any of those shootings.
Speaker 48 Far as the American public, we were all on the same side.
Speaker 8 We wanted them to stop.
Speaker 64 We didn't think that George Floyd should have had a neck or knee on his neck.
Speaker 9 We all agreed.
Speaker 3 But no, no, the Democrats wanted to make sure there were protests and not peaceful protests.
Speaker 118 They did nothing in city after city to stop riots and looting.
Speaker 48 I'm sorry, that's a different story, and we've all seen that story.
Speaker 12 We've also seen Maxine Waters stand in front of a crowd and actually tell people to track down and harass cabinet members.
Speaker 40 We saw Eric Holder say, when they go low, we kick them.
Speaker 32 We've heard Hillary Clinton say, we just can't be civil anymore.
Speaker 10 And when the rioting that they so desperately hoped would happen actually happened, we watched Nancy Pelosi say, you know people will do what people do
Speaker 49 congressman nadler told the violence was a myth
Speaker 85 ianna presley went on national tv and said there needs to be unrest in the street so did nancy pelosi let's not forget why aren't people rioting
Speaker 48 but it wasn't just the democrats in dc their propaganda arm the mainstream media was quick to back the play.
Speaker 24 CNN hilariously said the protests were peaceful while standing in front of a parking lot full of burning cars.
Speaker 44 They did it again last week.
Speaker 8 You know what they actually came out and said?
Speaker 27 They actually now have come out and said, hey, a few blocks is not a whole city.
Speaker 49 Well, tell that to the people who live in those few blocks.
Speaker 8 Do you not care about individuals at all?
Speaker 14 And what neighborhoods are they burning down?
Speaker 23 The nice ones?
Speaker 20 The overall grand strategy was to let America burn, hoping that it would make Trump look bad.
Speaker 108 Well, it backfired, and dare I say it, bigly.
Speaker 78 Polls are now turning the so-called early rout that Democrats thought they were seeing a few months ago now into a virtual tie.
Speaker 80 Real clear politics just released their new betting odds for who will win, and it's a toss-up.
Speaker 13 But I don't think it actually is a toss-up.
Speaker 46 I think there are millions of Democrats and Independents who might have not liked Donald Trump,
Speaker 49 but they see what's happened to their Democratic Party and they want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 48 Seems like Americans just don't like blood in the streets.
Speaker 114 They don't like rioting and violence.
Speaker 44 They don't like when their livelihoods are destroyed and their elected officials just stand by watching it happen.
Speaker 123 I'm going to be very interested to see what happens in the the next mayoral election
Speaker 116 in Portland, in Seattle, in Kenosha.
Speaker 13 So now we have a few Democrats that are willing to come out and publicly state that
Speaker 2 rioting is bad, the obvious.
Speaker 49 But that's not what they actually believe
Speaker 24 because they're on record saying the exact opposite.
Speaker 24 The only reason why they're saying it now is because they're now pointing the finger at Trump.
Speaker 48 I want you to listen to
Speaker 117 Cut Three.
Speaker 29 I look at this violence and I see lives and communities and the dreams of small businesses being destroyed.
Speaker 89 Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 29 And the opportunity for real progress on the issues of race and police reform and justice being put to the test.
Speaker 29 Donald Trump looks at this violence and he sees a political lifeline.
Speaker 7 Unbelievable.
Speaker 36 Unbelievable.
Speaker 87 Never mind a Black Lives Matter started under the Obama administration.
Speaker 36 Do you remember that?
Speaker 22 Do we have the video of Ferguson?
Speaker 115 When did that happen?
Speaker 48 That happened under the Obama administration.
Speaker 49 Go ahead and play it, please.
Speaker 32 You need to disperse immediately or you will be subject to arrest.
Speaker 124 Do it now.
Speaker 34 This is not Donald Trump's America, as Joe Biden is saying.
Speaker 126 Broken into and looted.
Speaker 127 Tear gas has been thrown, water bottles we witnessed being thrown at police.
Speaker 15 If you remember, tear gas.
Speaker 16 This tear gas just dropped right near us. It's going to get very bad here if we don't have masks.
Speaker 92 If you remember right, in Portland, they were rioting under Donald, under
Speaker 6 Joe Biden and Barack Obama's America as well.
Speaker 47 This has been fomented.
Speaker 14 This has been really well crafted.
Speaker 24 It is the Democrats that have put $175 million
Speaker 6 into Black Lives Matter Inc.'s coffers.
Speaker 103 This is not, you're watching a stage play.
Speaker 128 And now the playwright sees that at intermission everybody is walking out and he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 8 And he's trying to change what the character said in the first half.
Speaker 100 Nobody's going to buy that.
Speaker 49 These are Democratic governors, Democratic mayors, Democratic city councils.
Speaker 20 These are progressive hellholes that have, these people have been in power for decades.
Speaker 54 So how is that Trump's fault?
Speaker 45 I mean, do you really believe Democrats,
Speaker 21 and I'm talking about the Democrats in power, do you really believe your voters are this stupid?
Speaker 46 I mean, even I don't believe that.
Speaker 117 And you always say I think the worst of the Democrats that are voting.
Speaker 45 No, I don't.
Speaker 65 I think they're patriotic Americans, many of them, liberals that I disagree with, but they're not revolutionaries.
Speaker 20 They don't hate America.
Speaker 47 They don't go out and burn the flag.
Speaker 118 They come with us to 4th of July.
Speaker 8 They go in awe, and yes, even some of them occasionally weep
Speaker 8 during
Speaker 119 the fireworks, the Star-Spangled Banner.
Speaker 62 Many of them are very patriotic.
Speaker 40 You don't think they are.
Speaker 9 You think they're all revolutionaries and dumb ones at that
Speaker 100 because they won't remember what you've been saying.
Speaker 54 You know,
Speaker 54 how is this Trump's fault?
Speaker 128 It's his fault that the same Democratic officials are now rejecting help from federal law enforcement, refusing the National Guard, telling their cops to stand down?
Speaker 109 That's Trump's fault?
Speaker 15 Was Was Ferguson's Trump's fault as well?
Speaker 6 Was Ferguson really in 2014?
Speaker 77 And if this is the case, why didn't they use that line at any time during the DNC?
Speaker 34 Because the polls hadn't come out yet.
Speaker 27 Democrats were getting exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 50 And now Americans are pissed off.
Speaker 91 They think you're stupid.
Speaker 51 I'm sorry.
Speaker 42 I don't think America America is that stupid.
Speaker 16 A few weeks ago, Senator Ted Cruz repeatedly gave the good senator from Hawaii multiple opportunities to call out the rioters.
Speaker 44 She actually got up and walked out of the room.
Speaker 64 She wouldn't declare the rioters as a problem.
Speaker 66 It's the same song and dance that Democrats like Pelosi, Nadler, refusing to call out the violence.
Speaker 100 It was their strategy.
Speaker 105 They wanted the main street of U.S.
Speaker 24 to burn down and they coordinated their collective silence.
Speaker 20 Let's remember the
Speaker 131 vice president want to be,
Speaker 10 Kamala Harris, was on the late show with Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 116 Here's what she said about the riots.
Speaker 58 Well, we don't have it.
Speaker 4 Sorry, we don't have it.
Speaker 41 Two months ago, she said, quote, this is a movement.
Speaker 105 I'm telling you, everyone, beware.
Speaker 13 Protesters are not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day.
Speaker 41
They should not. They should not.
And we should not.
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Speaker 17 So
Speaker 116 peaceful protests.
Speaker 130 Peaceful protests.
Speaker 20 Here we have Kamala Harris on Colbert saying this.
Speaker 134 Clear that I know that there are protests still happening in major cities across the United States. I'm just not seeing the reporting on it that I that I had
Speaker 135 for the first few weeks. That's right.
Speaker 136
But they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop.
And that's, they're not, this is a movement, I'm telling you. They're not going to stop.
Speaker 136 And everyone beware because they're not not going to stop it is going to they're not going to stop before election day in November and they're not going to stop after election day and they know that should be everyone should take note of that on both levels that this isn't they're not going to let up and they should not okay so this is she knows that because they're coordinating with the Democrats all right but they call
Speaker 116 uh they call the riots protests America stopped calling these protests a long time ago.
Speaker 58 The only ones that are doing it right now are the Democrats, and they're even changing the Democrats and the media.
Speaker 32 They've called these peaceful, peaceful protests with, you know, some violence.
Speaker 135 No, I see violence.
Speaker 25 No, and I don't see peaceful protests anymore at all.
Speaker 25 Have you seen peaceful protesters anywhere?
Speaker 54 You know, you get them during the day. You get them before the night turns down.
Speaker 54 And then as soon as all the reporters go home and it's just the police and the peaceful protesters, then they turn into non-peaceful protesters.
Speaker 135 They did something.
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Speaker 26 Kamala Harris and the Democrats now are coming out and they're saying they're against these riots.
Speaker 100 But if you're against these riots, why would you be bailing people out?
Speaker 117 Now, you bail protesters out, but protesters usually are just released on their own recognizance, or it's a very small bail.
Speaker 80 Let's say it's 300 bucks.
Speaker 86 Early on, that was the average bail, $343.
Speaker 105 Now, the average bail is $13,000.
Speaker 77 And Harris had been pushing an organization called the Minnesota Freedom Fund, and the donations were going to be spent to bail out protesters that were arrested arrested by police.
Speaker 129 Now, I mean, you shouldn't, if you're protesting, you don't go to jail in America.
Speaker 132 It's if you've done something.
Speaker 95 But these were not peaceful, and the left wanted them out of jail to be able to continue to wreak havoc.
Speaker 87 So, Kamala Harris's advocacy for the Minnesota Freedom Fund helped her draw donors from Hollywood.
Speaker 33 We know at least 13 members from Joe Biden's campaign were also donors, and they bragged about it all over Twitter.
Speaker 131 They've raised $30 million.
Speaker 109 Okay.
Speaker 87 We can't really figure out where all of that money went because Minnesota operates in a way to make sure you can't really find out who was actually bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund.
Speaker 79 But Fox 9 in Minneapolis did some legwork and found some of the names.
Speaker 51 Listen to this.
Speaker 44 One of those that they bailed out was Jalil Stallings.
Speaker 123 He's a guy that was peacefully protesting with a
Speaker 142 kind of a handmade gun that he made into an AK-47, where he was shooting at members of the SWAT team during the riots in May.
Speaker 78 They recovered a modified.
Speaker 103 It was mostly peaceful.
Speaker 56 Yeah, it was mostly peaceful.
Speaker 44 I mean, he had to breathe in between shots.
Speaker 81 He didn't just continue to hold the trigger down.
Speaker 55 He didn't shoot at everybody.
Speaker 144 Exactly right.
Speaker 16 Mostly.
Speaker 130 It was just SWAT members.
Speaker 76 They paid $75,000 in cash to get him out.
Speaker 62 Now, this is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 110 She's raising money for this group, and they're bailing him out.
Speaker 33 Why would you want him out on the streets?
Speaker 30 Why would you want him?
Speaker 24 The Biden campaign, Kamala Harris,
Speaker 105 they should be asked, why did you help fund the bail for an attempted cop killer?
Speaker 59 Why?
Speaker 10 Another person bailed out was Darnika Floyd.
Speaker 118 She was charged with second-degree murder for stabbing her friend to to death.
Speaker 90 They released her on $100,000 cash for her release.
Speaker 49 Why are the Democrats what?
Speaker 116 Christopher Boswell, a twice-convicted rapist, currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault on two separate cases.
Speaker 48 They paid $350,000 in cash for his release.
Speaker 64 Before the death of George Floyd, this organization with Democrats support,
Speaker 58 Biden and Harris's support and fundraisers in their own midst, they bailed out 563 people.
Speaker 78 The average bail was 342.
Speaker 4 However, after,
Speaker 64 after George Floyd, they've bailed out 184 people.
Speaker 24 The average bail, 13,195.
Speaker 78 That means the violent of the violent.
Speaker 83 of the street rioters are being bailed out and put back on the street by the Democratic Party.
Speaker 86 The president of the American Bail Coalition, his name is Jeff Clayton. I saw a story.
Speaker 131 He said, there has to be some scrutiny on this.
Speaker 123 It has to be violent criminals because that's all that's left.
Speaker 33 There's nobody else left.
Speaker 132 There are no protesters left to spend this kind of money on.
Speaker 118 Yeah, because there's no protesters in jail, just violent rioters like
Speaker 40 Jael Stallings,
Speaker 93 who is shooting at police and trying to kill the police.
Speaker 11 And for them to now take this stand is so insulting to their voters.
Speaker 55 Not to me, I know who they are, but to their voters.
Speaker 76 It's crazy.
Speaker 131 It's crazy.
Speaker 47 And quite honestly, it's evil.
Speaker 13 The lies that are going on, absolute evil.
Speaker 122 Yeah, well,
Speaker 146 I just had Paul Kangor on my show earlier this morning, and
Speaker 146 he was talking about Karl Marx.
Speaker 3 His new book is called
Speaker 81 The Devil and Karl Marx.
Speaker 146 And when you read the quotes that came out of Marx's mouth and read some of the poetry that he wrote, there are people, Paul doesn't go this far, but he makes the point that there are people who think that Karl Marx was actually possessed by Satan
Speaker 53 during his lifetime.
Speaker 146 And that's how he came up with Marxism, with his theory.
Speaker 104 Even if you're not, by the way, can I just ADD moment?
Speaker 122 I'm just seeing this picture of at Pittsburgh, the speech that Joe Biden gave.
Speaker 44 If you're giving a speech about how safe the cities are, you shouldn't do it from a cage.
Speaker 4 I'm just saying.
Speaker 15 But anyway, he's got this big cage behind him.
Speaker 142 Anyway, the
Speaker 54 but I think I've never thought of it like that.
Speaker 31 I don't know why, because I should have. As evil as Marxism is, it kind of makes sense that he was possessed when he
Speaker 20 yeah, I don't know about the possession thing, but he was he was certainly influenced.
Speaker 70 I mean, this is absolutely
Speaker 61 Satan's plan.
Speaker 24 Right.
Speaker 120 It could have been written by Satan.
Speaker 9 I mean,
Speaker 24 everything about it is evil.
Speaker 131 It takes away people's agency.
Speaker 32 It destroys people's
Speaker 34 strength.
Speaker 17 You know, it makes them just puppets.
Speaker 118 It destroys the spirit of entrepreneurship and the spirit of, you know, each of us are individuals.
Speaker 24 By everything about it.
Speaker 146 By its very nature, it necessitates eliminating religion.
Speaker 146
You can't be communist and religious at the same time. You can't.
You've got to be an atheist. I mean, that's part of Marxism.
Speaker 38 It's really part of Marxism.
Speaker 58 Do you buy it?
Speaker 9 Did you read the book?
Speaker 31 I have not read the book yet. I'm going to now because.
Speaker 146 Sounded fascinating.
Speaker 31 Now, I don't know necessarily that
Speaker 53 he was possessed. I think it's definitely possible.
Speaker 125 Why wouldn't? I mean, why not?
Speaker 15 The guy,
Speaker 31 the evil that flowed from him,
Speaker 30 who knows?
Speaker 146 I mean, by their fruits, ye shall know them. Yeah.
Speaker 83 And his fruits are pretty evil.
Speaker 3 He also goes into the book about why hasn't Karl Marx been canceled?
Speaker 30 Yeah, right.
Speaker 31 Because of the anti-Semitism and the race.
Speaker 144 Racism.
Speaker 34 Racism. Like,
Speaker 54 it's not just recent people who have been canceled, right? They've been tearing down these statues of people all across the country and the world.
Speaker 33 And, you know, Karl Marx should never be mentioned favorably
Speaker 30 in college or anything else under these rules.
Speaker 97 How about the stuff he wrote about his own son-in-law?
Speaker 146 Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3
Oh my gosh. Destroyed him.
Gosh.
Speaker 20
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
And didn't he kill himself?
Speaker 59 His son-in-law killed him.
Speaker 59 He destroyed his life.
Speaker 15 And I think his daughter did as well.
Speaker 129 Two of his daughters died in suicide packs.
Speaker 15 With their husbands.
Speaker 89 Yeah. I mean, the guy.
Speaker 58 Suicide packs.
Speaker 85 Just that alone is pretty evil.
Speaker 114 Pretty evil.
Speaker 146 Yeah. It's ugliness.
Speaker 25 And yet, it's being pursued by how many young people now today, because they don't see the fruits of it today, except for communism in China, where it's a hybrid of capitalism.
Speaker 20 So that kind of
Speaker 86 negates it a little bit.
Speaker 94 Yeah, that's the new thing.
Speaker 74 Yeah.
Speaker 58 That's the new thing. That is
Speaker 135 the great reset is a hybrid between, they'll call it socialism, but it's communism, state control, but they let some people have control.
Speaker 15 I'm sorry.
Speaker 33 let some people own businesses, but the state still controls it.
Speaker 131 So, you know, you take the risk, but the state gets all of the benefits.
Speaker 133 And that, you know, that would be Hitler's, you know, style of socialism, where you can still own some property, et cetera, et cetera, but the state absolute has control over all of it and can tell you how much you're paying your workers, how much you're going to work them, what you're going to make, what you're not going to make, where you're going to sell it.
Speaker 16 Well,
Speaker 102 that's Chinese communism.
Speaker 83 And that's what they're headed for with this great reset that we'll be telling you about soon.
Speaker 144 I think that's absolutely not only possible, but plausible that he was deeply influenced by darkness.
Speaker 24 I mean, look at Sololinsky.
Speaker 129 Sololinsky
Speaker 15 dedicates the book to Satan, and nobody seems to mind.
Speaker 24 I mean,
Speaker 24 it's amazing to me how open
Speaker 114 evil is right now.
Speaker 24 And nobody seems to.
Speaker 109 Where are our churches?
Speaker 26 You know, yesterday I played some audio of a.
Speaker 146 Some of them have been infiltrated by communism.
Speaker 81 That's where some of them are. Evil.
Speaker 32 Yeah. But you got to stop.
Speaker 18 We have to stop calling this just socialism or communism.
Speaker 130 What is being preached right now is evil.
Speaker 56
It is evil. Right.
And we were trying to avoid that word, but there's no avoiding it now.
Speaker 146 There's just no avoiding it because there's only one word for it, and that is evil.
Speaker 129 I mean, tell me,
Speaker 9 what does it do?
Speaker 50 What are the fruits?
Speaker 19 By your fruits, ye shall know them exactly right.
Speaker 77 What are the fruits of everything that is being preached right now and being demanded on the streets?
Speaker 14 Look at the way the people are acting.
Speaker 20 I don't recognize
Speaker 132 these people that are on the streets.
Speaker 70 I don't recognize them.
Speaker 24 They've stopped being thinking people.
Speaker 120 They are just destroyers.
Speaker 48 Look at the way they were treating Rand Paul.
Speaker 135 If they actually believed in something, Stu, what was that really complex thing that you did last week?
Speaker 85 Remember, you said you got to.
Speaker 54 Oh,
Speaker 54 it's a process.
Speaker 34 It's learn.
Speaker 115 Learn.
Speaker 6 Then protest. Then protest.
Speaker 59 But in that order.
Speaker 96 In that order, that's way too complex for the average person.
Speaker 30 What? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 54 It's a lot.
Speaker 129 A lot of people like to confusing.
Speaker 3 Yeah, it's confusing.
Speaker 30
Yeah. That's really hard.
Riot.
Speaker 109 Right. Uh-huh.
Speaker 15 But because of riot.
Speaker 124 He says, he says, if they would have just,
Speaker 112 what was the first one again?
Speaker 143 Learn.
Speaker 16 Learn about Rand Paul and the fact that he was leading the effort to do exactly what they were yelling at him about.
Speaker 45 They wouldn't have tried to kill him.
Speaker 4 Ha!
Speaker 30 That's weird.
Speaker 54 You pick that up when you learn.
Speaker 125 Yeah, okay.
Speaker 54 And then you can go out and protest. If what you've learned
Speaker 54 justifies the protest, just going out there and screaming at every person who goes by in a suit, not quite as effective.
Speaker 146 Now, what's it called when you take a brick and run up behind somebody and smash them in the head with it, knock them out?
Speaker 122 Attempt that they go face first
Speaker 89 into the pavement.
Speaker 42 That's
Speaker 42 attempted murder.
Speaker 54 Unless you put it on Instagram.
Speaker 30 Okay, then it's okay.
Speaker 30 Then they laugh about it.
Speaker 30 That guy was out.
Speaker 14 When he hit the pavement, that could have killed him. Now,
Speaker 129 see,
Speaker 135 this is how stupid his complex system is.
Speaker 115 I can still go out and murder, then learn and protest.
Speaker 30 Oh, you can? Yeah.
Speaker 54 I don't know if that's really part of my system.
Speaker 59 Yeah, I can.
Speaker 7 Where do I murder?
Speaker 54 Oh, the murdering's not in my system.
Speaker 72 I have a thou shalt not policy. Oh, what a.
Speaker 146 Stick in the mud. That's old-fashioned nonsense.
Speaker 4 What a prude.
Speaker 23 I guess there's no burning cities down either?
Speaker 103 No.
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Speaker 107 I just want to play some audio here from Oakland, California.
Speaker 58 Now, remember,
Speaker 71 these protesters, they're peaceful, and all they're looking for is just, you know,
Speaker 122 some peace in the streets and just let's get the best police officers out there.
Speaker 2 And you'll hear that in their chant.
Speaker 11 This is yesterday in Oakland, California.
Speaker 11 Death
Speaker 128 Don't you love this?
Speaker 125 Now they're peaceful, mostly peaceful.
Speaker 60 They are peaceful, I mean, mostly.
Speaker 34 I mean, but they're just marching there
Speaker 48 and chanting death to America.
Speaker 56 And I think that's reasonable, you know?
Speaker 54 It's a good position.
Speaker 33 You know, I mean, it's worked for a very long time in Iran
Speaker 88 and held their people together.
Speaker 77 And why not?
Speaker 20 Why not here?
Speaker 77 Why are we so xenophobic that we don't want another culture and their slogans coming here?
Speaker 54 Is that the thing to learn from that?
Speaker 86 I think so.
Speaker 132 They're open-minded people.
Speaker 13 They're like, look, you know, let's embrace some different cultures.
Speaker 27 They say death to America.
Speaker 68 Why can't we?
Speaker 3 There was a time, I think, in this country, and correct me if I'm wrong, Glenn, you're kind of a historian around here.
Speaker 54 Wasn't there a time where politicians running for office would try to distance themselves from a group of people saying this?
Speaker 34 There was a time, now this is the old timey times.
Speaker 123 But there was a time when presidents would not only distance themselves from people saying death to America, they would say, this is an enemy of the state.
Speaker 101 And sometimes they would go to war.
Speaker 20 with people that were chanting death to America.
Speaker 54 Wow, that sounds bad. Yeah, that sounds bad.
Speaker 33 Well, they were so close-minded.
Speaker 61 They were like, hey, your culture is not better than ours.
Speaker 54 You know, we still haven't seen tons of pollings since all this stuff has happened, but it's like, are they?
Speaker 54 It's like they're trying to give Trump the election.
Speaker 54 If you were one of these protesters, what on earth would you think is happening here?
Speaker 48 Can I tell you something? Think about it this way:
Speaker 117 let's just say they do win.
Speaker 55 How emboldened is the left in this country and these groups to think that they could do this in the streets and America would back it?
Speaker 94 I mean, can you even imagine what's coming next if this is emboldened and rewarded?
Speaker 54 And Bernie said, as soon as they, if he gets elected, all they're going to do is try to push him to be the most progressive president possible. That was
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Speaker 107 Well, it won't be hard, especially, you know, won't be long before they're pushing him, you know, in a little chair with wheels.
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Speaker 71 Hello, America, and welcome to the Glen Beck program.
Speaker 104 This is the most important election of all time.
Speaker 26 The most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 8 I swore that off, I think, in 2012.
Speaker 104 But this one
Speaker 77 may be even more than just more important and the most important in our lifetime.
Speaker 82 This may be the last real election.
Speaker 10 Things are going to change so much depending on who wins.
Speaker 8 What are the stakes of this election?
Speaker 18 Michael Anton joins us in 60 seconds.
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Speaker 86 Michael Anton, he was a former national security official in the Trump administration, senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, and he has a new book out called The Stakes, America at the Point of No Return, which is exactly where we are.
Speaker 73 Michael, welcome to the program. How are you?
Speaker 127 Thanks for being on. I just want to mention also
Speaker 127 my day job, my primary affiliation is that I'm a lecturer at Hillsdale College at our campus in Washington, D.C.
Speaker 85 really, a really good institution to be associated with.
Speaker 127 A fine institution, indeed.
Speaker 75 Okay, so
Speaker 48 you are, of course, with this book, you're going to be called
Speaker 18 crazy conspiracy theory.
Speaker 67 You're overreacting.
Speaker 85 It's all of these things.
Speaker 26 Trust me, I've been called this for a very long time.
Speaker 100 And I can't punch a hole in what you're saying is coming because I don't think people really realize the end of America as we know it is here and it's just waiting for November 3rd to see which way we're gonna go.
Speaker 127 Yeah, I'd love to be wrong. I've never more wanted to be wrong.
Speaker 127 You know, you don't want to put six months of your life into something as grueling as writing a book and then say that you hope your entire thesis is wrong.
Speaker 127 But you know what what patriotic decent American wants to be right about the end of your country as you know it?
Speaker 127 I certainly don't, but I had to write the book honestly and call it as I saw it.
Speaker 127 And it's pretty obvious to me, first of all, from having grown up in California and lived in New York, I've seen what happens once voting patterns, demographics, et cetera, tip a place permanently blue so that there's no effective opposition and what Democrats and liberals do.
Speaker 127 And it's very bad.
Speaker 127 Second of all, all you have to do is listen to what they say and watch what they try to do at the national level to get a picture of what they will do when they have, when and if they gain blue dominance coast to coast and essentially turn the USA into a giant California New York.
Speaker 127 It's not hard to figure out what they're going to do. All you got to do is look at what they've already done, look at what they're doing now, and look at what they say they want to do.
Speaker 127 So again, if I'm
Speaker 127 crazy alarmist and
Speaker 127 it's all not happening, I'd like to hear a convincing refutation of why they won't do what they're already doing and say they want to do.
Speaker 64 Okay, so describe
Speaker 20 America
Speaker 19 a year from now.
Speaker 26 Should the Democrats win?
Speaker 127 Well,
Speaker 127 think about some of the completely radical things on their agenda that they ran on.
Speaker 127 Tearing down existing sections of the wall, right?
Speaker 127 Not only are they against President Trump's wall, which is still not complete, not because the President doesn't want to build the wall, but because he faces so much internal opposition from the federal government, they want to tear down sections that immediately exist.
Speaker 127 Joe Biden has said he will amnesty every illegal immigrant in the country. And he uses the fake number 11 million, which we've been hearing for something like twenty years now.
Speaker 127 How is it that with porous borders and about a million and a half new entries a year or whatever it is that's gone down under the Trump administration, that
Speaker 127 11 million figures remain static for a couple of decades? That seems unlikely, doesn't it? Well, Yale University put out a study last year,
Speaker 127 I think it's actually in late 2018, saying we think the number is more like 22 million, right?
Speaker 127 We don't know how many illegal immigrants are in the country, but Joe Biden will amnesty them all.
Speaker 127 And then they will be eligible for family reunification visas for relatives abroad, which is a dumb part of the immigration law that President Trump would like to get rid of, but hasn't been and so-called chain migration, but hasn't been able to do because he can't it's impossible to get any piece of good legislation through Congress.
Speaker 127 So just in Joe Biden's first term alone, we could see the additional importation of tens of millions of new people, all fast tracked to citizenship,
Speaker 127 so that they can tip purple states blue and produce an electoral lock for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 127 Remember the first Democratic debate when they were asked, the ten candidates were asked, how many of you would extend Medicaid to illegal aliens?
Speaker 127
Of course, they never would use the phrase illegal alien. They used whatever euphemism they used, undocumented immigrants or something.
All ten hands went up.
Speaker 127 So we're going to bankrupt these federal programs designed, however imperfectly designed, to help American citizens by
Speaker 127 by giving the care away completely free to people who broke the law to come into the country in the first place. I mean,
Speaker 127 these are just the beginnings of the radicalism of their agenda that I'm convinced they will implement if they get in and take power.
Speaker 109 So
Speaker 85 I'm with you on those things, Michael, but I am
Speaker 120 more concerned,
Speaker 133 that's
Speaker 101 a hard thing to say, but I am more concerned that the silencing of voices, the silencing of our churches, the
Speaker 18 silencing of conservatives, I mean, it is not unusual now to hear people on CNN or whatever saying, you know, conservatives really need to be re-educated.
Speaker 89 You know,
Speaker 6 they are in a very frightening
Speaker 46 Stalinist kind of path right now.
Speaker 127 For the most part, so far they're doing it through
Speaker 127 they've outsourced the silencing of voices, censorship, and so on to private companies, to the social social media companies and others.
Speaker 127 You guys do this, and the government doesn't necessarily need to do it.
Speaker 127 I shudder to think what they will do when they also have complete state power.
Speaker 127 Look, I think their preference is, yes, we absolutely want a lockdown on what can be said, but we'd prefer not to have to use the government to do it because that can get messy, and there might be court challenges, we might lose, it might be unpopular.
Speaker 127 But so far, there's been very little pushback on tech censorship and complete tech control of speech and thought in this country.
Speaker 127 And the Dems like it that way because they know that they can count on the tech companies to do exactly what they want them to do.
Speaker 127 But all of that will get worse.
Speaker 127 There should be
Speaker 127 right now, there should be significant governmental pushback on these tech monopolies, and there isn't any.
Speaker 127 We know for an absolute fact that the tech companies are overwhelmingly democratic in the voting patterns of their employees and in the donations of their executives.
Speaker 127 And so when you have a Democratic administration in the White House again, I think you'll see these two
Speaker 127 institutions work hand in glove to an even greater extent than they have so far, and that will be disastrous for freedom of speech and freedom of thought. And you mentioned churches.
Speaker 127 Another thing that worries me very, very much is the way these lockdowns have taken place.
Speaker 127 We have a legislative branch for a reason, and if there's a need to change policy because of an emergency, right, we should be working through legislative institutions, whether that's the Congress, whether it's the state legislature, legislature, whether it's a city council.
Speaker 127 But all over the country, we've seen mayors and governors just say, as if they have the power, you can't go outside anymore. Now, that's ruled by fiat.
Speaker 127 I mean, that really is, and they call President Trump a fascist and all these kinds of names. Oh, no.
Speaker 127 What is this extra legislative, extrajudicial power where an executive without color of law in any respect just says, I've given an order, you now must follow it?
Speaker 127 I don't know, but that's not the kind of government America is supposed to be, and it's not the kind that I want to live in.
Speaker 45 So
Speaker 53 they are making rules up for themselves where
Speaker 123 you can't go to church, but you can go out and protest.
Speaker 58 You can go out and riot,
Speaker 44 but you can't peacefully protest if you're on the wrong side in some states.
Speaker 127 Yeah, it seems like the more,
Speaker 127 I hate to use such terminology, but I don't... I can't think of any other.
Speaker 127 It seems kind of like the more destructive a thing is, the more they're willing to tolerate or even encourage it, and the more peaceful and constructive it is, the more they hate it.
Speaker 127 So they'll shut down all kinds of businesses, but make sure the pot dispensaries stay open and liquor stores stay open. Now, why is that?
Speaker 127 I sense a kind of sinister agenda from what I call in the book the ruling class, that they want as much sort of soul-destroying garbage in the culture as possible because it keeps the population from getting too restive and from noticing their bad governance and maybe fighting back.
Speaker 42 I mean,
Speaker 114 that was part of the deal with the Weimar Republic.
Speaker 127 Yeah, and so, you know, I mean, why are we legalizing marijuana all over the country? And why are
Speaker 127 Republican lawmakers when they leave Congress,
Speaker 127 including a former Speaker of the House, becoming lobbyists for marijuana, which is
Speaker 127 a substance, whatever you think of it, I mean, it's not conducive to having a constructive life or to
Speaker 127 ultimately to the social order. I think it's because they think, you know, well, the more people are just on the couch stoned, then, you know, the less trouble they're going to give us.
Speaker 57 Trevor Burrus, Jr.: You talk in the book about a couple of things that I would like you to expand on.
Speaker 15 Caesarism.
Speaker 127 Yeah.
Speaker 109 Explain.
Speaker 127 Caesarism is a form of, so it's obviously named after the first Caesar, Julius Caesar, who took over the last remnant of the Roman Republic about 50 years before the birth of Christ and turned it into a one-man rule state.
Speaker 127 But it's a particular form of one-man rule.
Speaker 127 Another way of determining one-man absolute rule is, you know, you could call it an absolute monarchy or you can call it a tyranny, right?
Speaker 127 But it's a particular form that becomes, in a sense, it's not justified, maybe necessitated when the constitutional order is broken and can't go on.
Speaker 127 And so you ask me about this. This is in a chapter of the book, Chapter 7, in which I speculate.
Speaker 127 I basically don't take sides, I don't make recommendations, but I say if the present ruling arrangement is a thing that can't go on forever, as I think that's pop it's possible, then it'll have to stop, it'll have to break.
Speaker 127 What will follow it? What will and I Caesarism is one of those things that could follow it. If
Speaker 127 present trends continue, especially without President Trump and his closest allies fighting them,
Speaker 127
I think the country as we've known it could break and then something has to follow. And that Caesarism could could be one of those things.
And Caesarism could
Speaker 127 emerge from either side.
Speaker 127 It's easier to imagine Caesarism coming from the blue side or the Democratic side just because they have all of the commanding heights, you know, powerful institutions in America now, except one, the White House, House, which they're determined to get back this fall.
Speaker 127 It's harder to imagine a path for a Caesarism of the other side to happen, but not impossible.
Speaker 127 And I give all of the reasons and sort of speculate about how this one might happen or that one might happen, just because I think no one's thinking about these things.
Speaker 127 And I point the finger in particular at conservatives.
Speaker 127 I'm not going to name names necessarily, but there's a strain of conservative thought which is so in love with the idea of American exceptionalism that it thinks that nothing can ever get bad enough for America, for America to fundamentally change for the worse.
Speaker 127 So human possibilities that have been around since there has been mankind, you know, the fall of republics, tyrannies, civil wars, things like that, we don't even have to think about them in America because they can't happen here anymore.
Speaker 127 And I think that's foolish. And somebody needed to begin the conversation about, well, what happens if it does get bad enough? And so
Speaker 127 I stuck my neck out and did that.
Speaker 74 Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So, Michael Anton, he's the author of The Stakes.
Speaker 86 And I want to talk to you about because I think we're closer to these things, Michael, than most people do.
Speaker 56 I could see a breakdown on the election.
Speaker 58 It's already going to happen with the Democrats saying mail in votes.
Speaker 150 It'll be days before we know.
Speaker 122 That will be a shock to the system.
Speaker 88 And it will, you know, probably will end that night with Trump being ahead.
Speaker 87 Then
Speaker 48 these ballots will trickle in and trickle in and trickle in, and it will appear as a stealing.
Speaker 86 Even if Trump continues to hold, they are going to say, look how many people are being disenfranchised.
Speaker 95 They're throwing all these ballots out because the typical number of ballots on mail-in that are thrown out is about 20%.
Speaker 27 And they'll make this into some new scandal.
Speaker 64 I could see either side
Speaker 101 standing up and saying, that's not my president. It's not my president.
Speaker 38 And secession, Serious talk of secession, where states say, I'm not abiding by you because you're out of control.
Speaker 127 I worried about this too.
Speaker 127 I do go into some of these election issues in the book.
Speaker 127 I couldn't, you know,
Speaker 127 they're so vast and complicated that I write an entire book about how
Speaker 127 to do modern election fraud, especially with the way these changes are taking place. So I'm foreseeing exactly the same possibility that you foresee.
Speaker 127 I mean, the best, you know, we probably won't have what we had in 2016, where by about 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, if you were still awake, you knew who the president was going to be, right?
Speaker 127 It was over.
Speaker 127
And, you know, days may be optimistic. It could be weeks or months.
So I have a section in that famous chapter, well, famous, it's not famous yet, but it might be.
Speaker 127 Chapter 7, in which I say states could secede, and this could happen from the blue left or the red right, depending.
Speaker 127 Now, and I don't necessarily even know that, you know, there's two ways to talk about secession, right? One is actually pulling it off, right? Because
Speaker 127 the other is just giving it a try. So what happens if a state just passes, a state legislature passes a resolution and says, we've seceded from the United States of America?
Speaker 127 Well, it's not really accomplished until the issue is settled and both sides agree, yeah, yeah, we're separate countries now. Are the feds going to necessarily accept that?
Speaker 127 And if they decide that they don't want to accept it, what are they going to do about it? And will what they try to do about it be effective?
Speaker 127 These are all questions questions that I think we've barely begun thinking about, much less thinking through.
Speaker 127 I admit
Speaker 127 I don't resolve any of them in the book because I don't know the answers, but
Speaker 127 I think I have raised all of the questions that we need to be talking about. And if I haven't, I urge people to read what I wrote and
Speaker 127 write it up somewhere and say, well, Anton forgot this and he didn't think about this and he didn't think about that, because we need to get on this right away.
Speaker 88 So I tell you, Michael, I thank you for doing this from the point of view from the conservative right
Speaker 114 because I do believe the left has already wargamed this years ago.
Speaker 127 Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 127 You say they wargame, they wargamed it pretty recently.
Speaker 127 I'm assuming you saw the leaks that they deliberately planted in, I can't remember if it was Politico or the New York Times about a month ago, where they got together and they had a war game scenario that included secession, and then they deliberately put that out into the press for reasons we can only speculate about.
Speaker 127
But you don't leak something to the press unless you think you're going to benefit from the leak. So they must think that they benefit from the leaks somehow.
And in one of those scenarios
Speaker 127 in which President Trump wins, this is, remember, these are Democratic and anti-Trump players playing this game.
Speaker 127 Trump wins convincingly in the Electoral College but loses the popular vote, just like 2016.
Speaker 127 And
Speaker 127 the Biden campaign refuses to concede and tries to urge
Speaker 127 states where Trump
Speaker 127 won to send Biden electors. And
Speaker 127 from there,
Speaker 127
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Speaker 127 So even though the Democrats control the House,
Speaker 127 they don't control
Speaker 127 each state delegation in that sense. So under this scenario,
Speaker 127 certain states, I think they had California and some others, seceded because they didn't want to live under President Trump. Now, call call me crazy, and many people will,
Speaker 127 but
Speaker 127 I have a hard time imagining Red America saying, oh, no, California, please don't go.
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Speaker 102 Ken Cuccinelli is with us.
Speaker 86 He's the acting DHS Deputy Secretary, former Attorney General of Virginia. He is a federalist, meaning he believes the state rights are the most important
Speaker 11 and is not looking for any kind of national police work.
Speaker 83 But he
Speaker 15 is now working in Portland and all over the country where these riots are happening.
Speaker 114 And as soon as the governor asks for the help from the federal government, they're sending it in.
Speaker 13 Welcome again to the program.
Speaker 70 Ken, how are you?
Speaker 127
Good to be with you, Clenn. I'm doing well.
Thank you.
Speaker 48 I wanted to talk to you about Portland and
Speaker 101 this shooting.
Speaker 69 I think this was an execution that happened in Portland
Speaker 28 and by a really, really bad guy, apparently.
Speaker 83 Can you tell us what we know about the alleged shooter?
Speaker 127 Well, it is preliminary and it's a messy situation.
Speaker 127 The investigation has just begun, and one of the tough things about this sort of a situation, especially for us Americans, is, you know, we're so antsy and impatient.
Speaker 127 We want everything done yesterday.
Speaker 127 But to do an investigation correctly does take some time.
Speaker 127 But the initial person of interest is clearly someone with a track record. And
Speaker 127 general way to put it. And,
Speaker 127 you know, when you invite and frankly encourage violence for months at a time, what you get is violence. And you also, and frankly, in some respects,
Speaker 127 it took longer than I thought it would.
Speaker 127 You invite in other elements,
Speaker 127 and I don't mean necessarily bad, people who are just fed up, who are so frustrated with the failure of the rule of law that they want to go do it themselves.
Speaker 127 And historically, we've called the vigilantes. But the reality is, America policed itself for the first hundred years of its existence, right? There were no police.
Speaker 127 There was you and me in our neighborhoods.
Speaker 127 And that attitude, that cultural element, has never left us completely. And when people like the mayor of Portland intentionally decline to adequately police their own communities,
Speaker 127
you invite more violence in. Violence begets violence.
It doesn't burn itself out.
Speaker 127 And we've seen that all over the country, the obvious comparison being Kenosha, where a somewhat reluctant Governor Evers did bring in National Guard, you know, small amounts at first, but when he finally put enough people there,
Speaker 127 after some more violence happened, the president had urged him to do so, peace broke out and has remained in Kenosha.
Speaker 127
This is the peace through strength concept that Ronald Reagan made famous in international relations simply applied to domestic tranquility. And that's the goal.
It's the goal of the president.
Speaker 127 It's the goal of many people, but apparently not the mayor of Portland or the governor of Oregon to achieve peace.
Speaker 42 So let's talk about Wisconsin here for a second.
Speaker 48 If you watch that video, and I'm not saying this kid should have gone down there, but that is what people do.
Speaker 106 I mean, you know, it's crazy that the leftist.
Speaker 127 We were just talking about it, right? So people show up because they don't see the government doing their job and it offends them. And so they show up to help out their fellow Americans.
Speaker 15 Right. And isn't this
Speaker 11 kind of things?
Speaker 92 Isn't this just what happened in Charlottesville?
Speaker 27 I mean, the Nazis were there, and the left decided to show up to stop it, and that caused the problem.
Speaker 16 And those, of course, were the good guys, according to the media.
Speaker 131 Now, somebody shows up and says, hey, you you know, we got to at least protect these businesses, et cetera.
Speaker 122 He's a bad guy.
Speaker 27 But that said, I wouldn't have had my son there, and I would be really upset if my kids went to that.
Speaker 73 Right, right, right, right.
Speaker 15 However,
Speaker 44 the video looks like it was self-defense, especially with all of the other videos showing this guy really trying to jump him several times.
Speaker 47 And the left is acting like
Speaker 104 none of that matters.
Speaker 48 And they're saying, look, first-degree murder.
Speaker 33 Ken,
Speaker 63 how are they charging this kid with first-degree murder?
Speaker 127 Well, first of all, they did it so quickly that you knew they were just slapping on a charge.
Speaker 127 And remember, the standard to charge is much lower than to convict.
Speaker 127 I would be astonished if that charge weren't dramatically reduced, possibly ultimately dropped, but dramatically reduced before they go forward with it.
Speaker 127 Because
Speaker 127 in the absence of other information that we haven't seen, and one of the things about having all this public video, it can be a little chaotic, but it does give everybody at least some window into what happened.
Speaker 127 And, you know, you clearly, as you've said, Glenn, see this kid and his lawyer
Speaker 127 broadcast. They're going to defend on self-defense.
Speaker 127
And you have a right to defend yourself. The real question, I think, that the whole thing will come down to is the amount of force used.
Was it appropriate under the circumstances?
Speaker 127 And I think that's what the whole thing will turn on. And if a jury finds that it was a legitimate
Speaker 127 use of force, meaning the using a gun was appropriate under the circumstances, then he will not end up being convicted of anything under those circumstances. Aaron Powell,
Speaker 68 let's go back to
Speaker 110 Portland.
Speaker 85 The press is making
Speaker 122 this guy who lost his life as
Speaker 85 a guy who is inciting violence.
Speaker 48 Ken, doesn't it look like an execution?
Speaker 91 Is there a defense for
Speaker 2 somebody
Speaker 101 saying,
Speaker 48 hey, I don't agree with you, and just even forcefully, I don't agree with you,
Speaker 102 but not having a weapon and then somebody just pulling out a gun and just shooting you?
Speaker 127 Yeah, see, when you've got, if it's one-on-one, we don't have nearly the kind of video coverage that we do of the Kenosha situation that you and I were just talking about.
Speaker 127 So the facts surrounding what actually happened are much less certain here. And,
Speaker 127 but one of the factors, if this is a one-on-one situation, is an armed person and an unarmed person.
Speaker 127 You know, that's with my Captain Obvious cape on, right?
Speaker 127 But that's a factor here. And it also
Speaker 127 raises the question of malevolence, to your point. Was this premeditated in some way?
Speaker 127 And
Speaker 127 that is still, you know, a long way off from being resolved. That one's going to be,
Speaker 127 in many ways, murkier and more difficult to investigate, I think, than the Kenosha case, in part because there's so much video in the Kenosha situation.
Speaker 127 You know, whenever you have video of violence, you need to understand the context and you need to be able to know what happened before and sometimes after.
Speaker 127
But at least you have it. It becomes a baseline to analyze the facts.
And, you know, I don't have the luxury, like people outside of
Speaker 127 federal government and the state government that's responsible for this of going too far down the road of potential conclusions.
Speaker 127 You know,
Speaker 127 the restraint we have to show in talking about this impairs our ability to address the particular situation.
Speaker 127 I will say that the indications where you have two groups facing off like this, and some of them randomly, just, you know, okay, rallies are over, we're walking out.
Speaker 127 And some people may go picking fights with others who don't agree with them. You know,
Speaker 127
that is all invited by the kind of path this mayor and governor have encouraged. They haven't merely allowed it, they've encouraged it.
And
Speaker 127 it's really quite extraordinary that
Speaker 127 an entire state would allow this to go on like this.
Speaker 127 And undoubtedly, Glenn, you saw the governor's, quote, plan, unquote, for resolving the violence in Portland, relying on surrounding law enforcement
Speaker 59 sheriffs' offices.
Speaker 127 And they declined to enter and and one of the most outstandingly written letters that i have seen in a very long time was by one washington county sheriff nearby i think it was washington county um who said i cannot i want peace i'll help analyze social media i'll do these other things to help at a distance but i without the political support and without the prosecutions being undertaken and putting i cannot put my deputies in that kind of danger in that sort of and the most interesting phrase was something along the lines of legally questionable situation, meaning you won't protect them.
Speaker 127
Right. You won't protect them.
I have an obligation to my own deputies to not put them in those situations. And I think that sheriff was absolutely right.
Speaker 127 This mayor and this governor have all the tools they have ever needed to bring peace to Portland tomorrow, tomorrow, and yet they refuse to do it.
Speaker 127 So this is a decision on their part that somehow the violence is politically preferable to them than
Speaker 127 the alternative.
Speaker 127 And I've said, you know, with the mayor's response to the president's most recent letter, this mayor hates President Trump more than he loves the people of Portland, that he's responsible to protect, not just represent, but he's the chief of police too, but to protect.
Speaker 127 And he is failing intentionally in that obligation.
Speaker 123 I know you have a meeting you've got to run to.
Speaker 77 Can I get just a couple of short answers on two questions?
Speaker 145 One,
Speaker 33 the media is now claiming this is the right wing inflaming the protests.
Speaker 85 And the second is
Speaker 85 your boss, Chad Wolf, said we are targeting and investigating the heads of BLM and TIFA and those who fund them.
Speaker 87 Comments on both of those things.
Speaker 87 So
Speaker 127 on the second one, there are literally hundreds of federal investigations running across the country into the violence around the country, not just Portland and Kenosha.
Speaker 127 And inevitably, those will also involve not just the occurrence of violence, but to the extent funding was required to pull it off, where that came from and what networking might be involved in it.
Speaker 127 So that's unfolding as we speak.
Speaker 127
Literally hundreds of investigations involved there. There's nothing too specific to point to.
What was your first example?
Speaker 86 The first one is the right wing is inflaming the protests.
Speaker 139 Right, right, right, right.
Speaker 127 This is just the latest narrative. Look,
Speaker 127 when we augmented our federal forces in Portland, you heard all the media say, oh, they caused the violence.
Speaker 127 Well, you know, that was a little ridiculous with five weeks of violence and declarations of riots
Speaker 127 before we were even seen there.
Speaker 127 And Mayor Wheeler on July 3rd saying the violence has to stop. This is from
Speaker 127 the main opponent there.
Speaker 127
This is just the latest narrative, Glenn, and not one of them has survived. When the we caused the violence failed, they said we made it worse.
It was getting better, we made it worse.
Speaker 127 Well, we showed the data that showed it was actually getting worse before we got there. It's why we came.
Speaker 127 Every single narrative of the left, promptly propagated by the subservient mainstream media, has been utterly defeated by that most powerful force in the universe, truth.
Speaker 67 And truth not only will set you free but it will also accurately describe what's going on around you Ken Cuccinelli thank you very much acting DHS deputy secretary you can follow him on Twitter at homelandken Ken thanks so much for being on the program
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Speaker 101 You know, they saw a
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Speaker 92 And this is something that Elizabeth Warren is involved with.
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Speaker 77 Stu did a great monologue, what was it, last week, on how Joe Biden is no longer a moderate.
Speaker 48 With what he's done, the positions of power that he's now appointed people in all around him are thrilling the Uber left.
Speaker 69 Yeah, they want to.
Speaker 54 I mean, he is, the platform he is pushing right now is not even remotely close to a moderate platform, even when you put it in the standards of like versus Barack Obama's presidency.
Speaker 54 I mean, he is way, way to the left of that.
Speaker 54 He's to the point of pleasing people like Bernie Sanders and all of these far-left writers and intellectuals who can't believe that they're getting all these left-wing policies without having to pay the price for going so far left with the electorate.
Speaker 54 As of right now, he's seen as this moderate and he's doing all these crazy left things.
Speaker 86 But Lunch Bucket Joe is really just one of the people.
Speaker 30 You're talking about middle-class Joe?
Speaker 38 Middle-class Joe, and he's just...
Speaker 150 He's not a radical, and he's only using these radicals for support.
Speaker 54 And he explicitly, basically made this point yesterday in that speech when he said, look at me. Do I look like a socialist who's friendly to rioters?
Speaker 4 I mean, come on.
Speaker 54 That's his argument.
Speaker 20 Look at me.
Speaker 54 I'm an old white guy.
Speaker 103 I'm harmless.
Speaker 54 Don't worry about all these crazy policies I've announced.
Speaker 56 Don't even look at them.
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Speaker 96 So why isn't the left all up in arms?
Speaker 54 Because they're excited about him.
Speaker 51 Yeah, but why? Look at him.
Speaker 145 I mean, come on, man.
Speaker 61 Does he look like a socialist?
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Speaker 8 So, Joe Biden gave a speech.
Speaker 101 He came out of his basement.
Speaker 28 He saw his shadow. So,
Speaker 107 there's like six more weeks of summer.
Speaker 28 I don't know exactly how that works, but
Speaker 41 he wasn't afraid of his own shadow.
Speaker 86 But apparently he is afraid of his voters because he's doing a different song and dance.
Speaker 79 Now he's got to blame the violence of Portland and Kenosha and Minneapolis, shockingly on President Trump.
Speaker 24 I didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 102 He had a lot to say,
Speaker 69 including, hey man, look at me.
Speaker 83 Do I look like a radical?
Speaker 8 Do I look like somebody who likes violence on the streets?
Speaker 27 Do I look like a socialist?
Speaker 135 What are you saying, Joe?
Speaker 102 That socialists can't be white and old?
Speaker 14 That radicals can't be white and old?
Speaker 54 I look at history. A lot of the socialists that killed a lot of people are white and old.
Speaker 66 White and old.
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Speaker 106 But he's not a radical.
Speaker 145 Come on, man.
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Speaker 36 So, right.
Speaker 40 So, so, Stu, I mean, I, I, if
Speaker 23 Bernie Sanders, come on, man.
Speaker 130 You say he's a radical.
Speaker 68 He's not.
Speaker 51 Does he look like a radical?
Speaker 3 Well, Bernie Sanders does look like a radical. I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 54 I'm sorry.
Speaker 100 Confuse these two.
Speaker 145 Joe Biden, come on, man.
Speaker 54 You wouldn't think it would be easy to confuse those two, but it's a lot easier than I think a lot of people recognize because people are trying to make out Biden to be this moderate.
Speaker 54 And running to the right of Bernie Sanders does not make you a moderate.
Speaker 38 Okay. Oh, is he running to the right of Bernie Sanders?
Speaker 25 Well, he is a
Speaker 9 fan of him that way, but he hasn't really been there for quite some time.
Speaker 103 Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 54 is Biden a moderate? You know, like, if you compare him to that field, sometimes people might call him a moderate, right?
Speaker 54 Because you had people like Bernie Sanders, like Bill de Blasio, people who have embraced communism throughout their lives,
Speaker 54 are in that field.
Speaker 90 So he looks a little more conservative.
Speaker 66 You keep using that word moderate.
Speaker 38 I do not think it means what you think it means.
Speaker 24 If you're comparing him...
Speaker 23 to Karl Marx and he's like, I'm not fully there, that's still not a moderate.
Speaker 96 It's like saying
Speaker 54 Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift is a better film than Too Fast Too Furious.
Speaker 108 Right.
Speaker 54 Now, technically, on Rotten Tomatoes, Tokyo Drift has 37%.
Speaker 54 Right. And Too Fast, Too Furious has 36%.
Speaker 61 Well, it might be.
Speaker 30 I don't know if it's a notable distinction.
Speaker 132 Yeah, you might say that it's a better film, but it's not a good movie.
Speaker 12 It's not winning an Oscar.
Speaker 59 Right.
Speaker 38 When you say, you know, that Tokyo Drift, that's pretty good.
Speaker 59 No, if you're comparing it to the others, yes, but it's not good in any other category.
Speaker 54 What I thought was interesting is we keep we keep saying he's not a moderate glenn beck says he's not a moderate who cares what glenn beck though says he's some evil conservative guy right right what is the left saying about joe biden are they angry that he's too moderate right is that their current position because they're out on the streets burning things down right they don't seem moderate no so they gotta hate him right here we go uh this is uh let me just give you a few examples the sunrise movement are you familiar with the sunrise Movement?
Speaker 109 I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 54
Sunrise Movement, a far-left climate group. They are pushing for the Green New Deal.
They've endorsed Bernie Sanders for president during the primary.
Speaker 54 Rashida Tlaib, Corey Bush, and Elon Omar for Congress, among others.
Speaker 30 Okay. Okay.
Speaker 109 Okay. So that's...
Speaker 52 They're moderate.
Speaker 54 Yeah, they're moderate. They were actually so pissed off at Nancy Pelosi for not being liberal enough that they organized a sit-in protest to push the Green New Deal with Alexandria Ecasio-Cortez.
Speaker 3 Wow.
Speaker 54 Would they be pleased with a moderate?
Speaker 66 No,
Speaker 16 I don't think they would.
Speaker 106 So they don't like the ever-so-moderate Joe Biden.
Speaker 54 You'd think so. However, they tweeted in 2017, Bernie Sanders introduced legislation for 100%
Speaker 54 clean energy by 2050.
Speaker 58 Wow.
Speaker 54 That Joe Biden is now backing 100% clean electricity by 2035
Speaker 54 is a very big deal and a huge victory for the Green New Deal movement.
Speaker 54 Sunrise movement, be proud and let's keep pushing.
Speaker 109 So 2035.
Speaker 32 So he is
Speaker 66 further down the road than
Speaker 38 Sanders.
Speaker 54 At least as far as electricity goes,
Speaker 54 which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 101 Well, but he's probably more science-minded, so he can come up with those things faster.
Speaker 53 Sure.
Speaker 54 Yeah, because Joe Biden screams scientific competence.
Speaker 59 He does.
Speaker 52 He really does.
Speaker 54 How about Peter Beinard in the Atlantic? He wrote a piece entitled, Biden Goes Big Without Sounding Like It. Perceived as a Moderate.
Speaker 59 Wait, wait.
Speaker 30 What is a moderate?
Speaker 54 He's perceived as a moderate.
Speaker 11 He's perceived as a moderate.
Speaker 54 He has embraced strikingly progressive goals without facing any political backlash.
Speaker 12 I wonder why.
Speaker 54 It's a quote. Despite embracing an agenda that is further to the left
Speaker 54 that of any Democratic nominee in decades, he's avoided the specific policy proposals and catchphrases that Republicans find easiest to attack.
Speaker 54 As a result, he appears more centrist than he actually is.
Speaker 54 Okay, again, this is not right-wingers saying this. This is people in the mainstream and on the left.
Speaker 24 So, any Democratic nominee in decades?
Speaker 56 Decades.
Speaker 6 So, that would not include Barack Obama.
Speaker 4 No.
Speaker 6 Who would be more left
Speaker 47 than Barack Obama?
Speaker 10 I would have to say FDR or Woodrow Wilson.
Speaker 54 There was one suggestion, I believe, in here that we'll hear of McGovern.
Speaker 92 Was that
Speaker 92 a good thing?
Speaker 52 Yeah, McGovern.
Speaker 109 He was good. He was really good.
Speaker 72 He did well in this country.
Speaker 30 He did. Did really well.
Speaker 36 He was good.
Speaker 54 Here's something from the 538 Politics podcast.
Speaker 154 Whatever Bernie can do to push Biden to the left, however far that goes, tack on another like 50 miles to the left based on the pandemic and the need to respond to it and all its effects, right?
Speaker 154 Like we're in a moment where Republicans in Congress are debating not whether or not to take huge governmental action, but like how huge that action should be.
Speaker 154 If a Biden administration happens, you have to imagine it would happen in a context where even by the standards of four years ago, it is taking really ambitious leftist policy positions in response to the pandemic because the pandemic has shifted the Overton window so much, right?
Speaker 156 In a sense, we're saying that the critique that Trump has tried to launch at the Biden campaign, there's real truth to it.
Speaker 54 I guess it's got to be frustrating for them that
Speaker 156 through the strength of Biden's own image or character, people don't see him that way.
Speaker 55 By the way, I could listen to that first guy for hours.
Speaker 144 He was great.
Speaker 54 But I mean, think about that. They're admitting the attack that we keep saying, hey, he's this big leftist.
Speaker 38 The one they keep saying he's lying about.
Speaker 115 Right. It's true.
Speaker 56 It's just true. Right.
Speaker 103 How about Paul Waldman in the Washington Post?
Speaker 54
His piece. How Joe Biden is moving left while still being seen as a moderate.
Quote, something extraordinary is happening.
Speaker 54 Biden is getting more progressive in substance, yet it has done nothing to change his image as a moderate. There's a kind of shift we expect from presidential candidates.
Speaker 54 In the primaries, they appeal to their party with pledges of ideological fealty. Then, when the nomination is secured during the general election, they head back to the center.
Speaker 54 Biden, however, is doing the opposite in substance, if not in rhetoric. Jonathan Shait, New York Magazine, quote, Joe Biden's platform is more progressive than you think.
Speaker 54 He says, the truth is that Biden has a domestic agenda that, while nowhere near as radical as the Bernie Sanders platform, is almost certainly to the left of anything even a Democratic-run Congress would pass.
Speaker 61 Okay, so, sorry, I speak my eyes.
Speaker 143 I hurt so bad.
Speaker 32 Okay, so what
Speaker 6 they're saying here
Speaker 47 is he's not a moderate.
Speaker 15 He's not.
Speaker 17 He's not a moderate.
Speaker 40 And in fact, what they're saying here is, and I'm trying to figure out who's being played because perhaps you could say, no, he really is.
Speaker 9 I know this isn't true, but no, he's really not meaning any of this stuff.
Speaker 133 And so now the press and the leftists in the press are covering for him.
Speaker 24 But that's not possible because the people in the street will burn their houses down.
Speaker 9 You know what I I mean?
Speaker 55 You don't dupe those people.
Speaker 54 No, and I think, you know, that critique, I think, largely makes sense in the context of a primary, right? Joe Joe Biden's coming out with these left-wing proposals, and okay,
Speaker 54 he's pleasing the party, right? He's pleasing the activists that are voting in a primary.
Speaker 54 Going back to the general election, the fact that he's going more liberal is, I think, very well encapsulated by that 538 clip where they're saying he's seen the opportunity that COVID is providing
Speaker 54 and he said, screw it. No need to move TAC back to the center, go as far left as we can.
Speaker 54 We'll have moderate tone in our rhetoric, but our policies can be as left-wing as we have ever dreamed they could be.
Speaker 121 So dangerous. So dangerous.
Speaker 54 Ellen Nielsen and Vox. Biden now envisions a much larger role for government in his administration if he wins than past Democratic presidents have been comfortable with.
Speaker 103 More radical than Barack Obama would be comfortable.
Speaker 15 comfortable with
Speaker 54 incredible another from Vox progressives see a list of ideas that goes far beyond, goes beyond a status quo and goes beyond where Biden had campaigned in the primary.
Speaker 54 That's from Faeez Shakir, Sanders presidential campaign manager in 2020.
Speaker 52 Holy cow.
Speaker 109 And that guy is a radical of radicals.
Speaker 18 He's a dangerous radical.
Speaker 58 Yeah.
Speaker 54 I would agree with that analysis.
Speaker 30 Wow.
Speaker 54 Madaglesius and Vox. It's the most progressive platform of any Democratic nominee in the modern history of the party, said Walid Shaheed, Communications Director for the Justice Democrats.
Speaker 54 Now, you remember, Glenn,
Speaker 54 the Justice Democrats. They are the ones that recruited AOC
Speaker 7 to run.
Speaker 54 They are the radical left-wing AOC branch of the party.
Speaker 100 You're not saying Walid Shaheed is a radical, too, are you?
Speaker 103 Oh, no, he's a moderate.
Speaker 15 He's a moderate.
Speaker 72 He just seems to be within the Democrat, the Justice Democrats.
Speaker 109 Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 54
That's pretty amazing. How about Ezra Klein, founder of Vox? He writes, by the standards of the Democratic Party in 2008, the moderates looked like leftists.
Michael A.
Speaker 54 Cohen, he's an Obama-era Democratic speechwriter. He writes, it's precisely because Biden is seen as a pragmatic moderate and not a controversial liberal that he was able to capture the nomination.
Speaker 54 But since then, Biden has moved increasingly leftward. Washington Post, the Democratic policy community has dramatically shifted left.
Speaker 54 A new generation of economists is legitimizing ideas once considered verboten in establishment debates.
Speaker 61 I just love the word verboten.
Speaker 132 Oh, yeah, no, I love it.
Speaker 74 I love it, especially coming from the left.
Speaker 13 Yeah. You know,
Speaker 66 let's throw in a good, I don't know,
Speaker 36 German kind of something that the Nazis kind of, you know, spread around the world.
Speaker 54 Over in the Atlantic, once again, quote: Biden has won on a social democratic policy program that, while sharing his general view of the world, is significantly bolder than Barack Obama's.
Speaker 54 Here's Nate Silver from the 538 podcast.
Speaker 157 Objectively, Biden has the most left-wing platform since McGovern. Now, it is not as far left, to be sure, as Elizabeth Warren's platform would have been or Bernie Sanders's,
Speaker 157 but it's pretty far left relative to Obama's even on some issues.
Speaker 32 But people think of Biden as this kind of old, safe Uncle Joe white male, right?
Speaker 157 And so they don't see him as being radical. So, yeah, like in some ways, the kind of trojan horse critique is
Speaker 157 one of the smarter critiques that comes from Troy.
Speaker 116 As he was talking, I was like,
Speaker 36 he's describing a Trojan horse which didn't end well for the people of Troy.
Speaker 30 I don't know.
Speaker 66 I don't know if you got that.
Speaker 103 No, and I think of another Uncle Joe when I think of an old white socialist, right?
Speaker 54 His last name was Stalin.
Speaker 4 This is not good.
Speaker 30 This is not good.
Speaker 54 Mother Jones, surely they're pissed off at at this moderate candidate, right?
Speaker 54 The Progressive Change Institute, an affiliate of the Warren-Aligned Progressive Change Campaign Committee, has set about creating a personal power map of the executive branch showing which appointed positions have the authority to enact or thwart various policy ideas.
Speaker 54 The goal is to have people throughout the federal government who know how to exercise power, says Stephanie Taylor, the CCC co-founder.
Speaker 2 That is, that's saying we have mapped out the deep state, and no matter what is said or passed, we know where the levers really are.
Speaker 62 That should terrify
Speaker 71 every American.
Speaker 54 They are prepared for what is about to happen.
Speaker 121 Oh my gosh.
Speaker 54 Here's Jon Favreau, a former Obama speechwriter and well known for the Pod Save America podcast.
Speaker 54 If that's where the Overton window has moved, then congratulations to all the progressive activists because you have moved the s out of that window that is supporting the Green New Deal.
Speaker 54
And basically, Medicare for all is now moderate and centrist. Fantastic.
I'll take it.
Speaker 15 They're laughing about it.
Speaker 54
They're laughing at this. And the media is in on it.
Obviously, it's the only reason this is working.
Speaker 54
In fact, including Bernie Sanders himself. You'd think, surely Bernie, who ran against Joe, could not possibly be happy about this development.
Here is Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 149 If those task force proposals are implemented, you know what? Joe Biden will become the most progressive president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And that at this moment is what we need.
Speaker 77 Because remember, Franklin didn't leave and then all of those policies go away.
Speaker 87 Franklin changed fundamentally the way America worked, and we never went back.
Speaker 95 It's like Barack Obama with Obamacare.
Speaker 14 We're not going back.
Speaker 24 They're going to make it worse.
Speaker 104 So, if you are building on FDR and you're coming in and you are far more progressive than anybody else,
Speaker 24 I don't know how
Speaker 9 you're described as a moderate.
Speaker 8 I'm trying to figure out how the fundamental transformation of the United States of America from a republic to a democracy,
Speaker 105 from a
Speaker 90 constitutional republic to some sort of autocratic system
Speaker 138 is moderate, but they love it.
Speaker 26 Thanks for that, Stu.
Speaker 142 By the way, you can watch Stu every night on
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Speaker 92 And what are you doing tonight?
Speaker 54 We are going to do, I think we're going to do Jim Gaffigan tonight.
Speaker 63 I'm fascinated because I love Jim Gaffigan.
Speaker 7 So do I.
Speaker 103 But I think there's something really important we can learn from what he did.
Speaker 85 Oh, I'm anxious to hear that.
Speaker 54
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Speaker 130 Oh, yeah. So, did you hear the
Speaker 26 mayor of Philadelphia was going out to eat in restaurants?
Speaker 26 Of course, in Philadelphia, you can't go out to eat in restaurants.
Speaker 54 How was the mayor then going out to?
Speaker 85 He just went to another place where you can, and he said, no, I just know this area is safe.
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Speaker 54 Oh, that one's
Speaker 15 safe from the virus?
Speaker 72 He's now cordoned off.
Speaker 18 The restaurant's in his city, not safe, but he knows where the safe restaurants are.
Speaker 143 Oh, wow.
Speaker 54 We need to get in touch with this guy because if he can identify the safe places, we can open up the economy really easily.
Speaker 114 Right.
Speaker 27 Also, the stars that are attending the video music awards for MTV,
Speaker 71 they don't have to worry about the quarantine mandate.
Speaker 30 They don't. No, they don't.
Speaker 88 Why not? Why wouldn't they be?
Speaker 26 Because they're going to to the video music awards.
Speaker 6 Is there a cure?
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Speaker 86 They're going to be safe.
Speaker 95 They just know that all these people coming in from all over the world to attend the video music award.
Speaker 122 You're not going there if you have a fever, you know.
Speaker 66 So,
Speaker 131 and you couldn't be a carrier, so they're safe.
Speaker 26 So, the VMAs are open in New York.
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Speaker 52 This is the Glen Beck program.
Speaker 68 Well, the president
Speaker 48 is on his way now to Wisconsin, even though the governor and the mayor is like, please don't go.
Speaker 73 Please don't come.
Speaker 86 We'll see what happens.
Speaker 122 But why is he?
Speaker 76 He's on the tarmac now, just getting ready to leave.
Speaker 135 And I'm looking at the screen and he's taking the 727, which is normally Air Force 2.
Speaker 85 Air Force 1 is always what the president takes.
Speaker 105 And it could be a biplane.
Speaker 85 If he's in it, it's Air Force One.
Speaker 27 But
Speaker 38 why is he taking the 727?
Speaker 18 We've got like eight of those things that we paid for.
Speaker 48 Don't tell me they're all in the shop.
Speaker 121 Oil change.
Speaker 54 Yeah, I mean, a special.
Speaker 3 And they put them all in at the same time.
Speaker 21 I don't see Donald Trump as the guy who's like, you know what, let's take the small one.
Speaker 15 Like, give me the one with Trump on the side.
Speaker 119 I like the little, super little one.
Speaker 24 Let's just kind of go in incognito, you know?
Speaker 54 I think Jiffy Lube had a bulk discount this week, so they just put them all in at the same time.
Speaker 151 All the Air Force. Is that what it is? Yeah.
Speaker 52 Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 85 Maybe he's landing in a smaller airport, which I can't imagine, that a 727.
Speaker 5 Kenosha, though.
Speaker 52 I mean, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 54 It's probably not a huge airport.
Speaker 34 All right.
Speaker 50 Let's go over
Speaker 129 Joe Biden yesterday
Speaker 138 talking about
Speaker 85 Donald Trump is just stoking the fires.
Speaker 70 That's all he's doing.
Speaker 118 He's just stoking the fires.
Speaker 16 We have that cut. Can we play that, please?
Speaker 29 In times as challenging as these.
Speaker 29 I believe there's only one way forward.
Speaker 129 Okay, stop.
Speaker 34 No, not this one.
Speaker 18 I want the stoking the fires from yesterday's speech if we have it.
Speaker 67 Biden blames Trump for the
Speaker 85 violence. Do you have that?
Speaker 3 That's on page one.
Speaker 29
Trump pence are running on this, and I find it fascinating. Quote, you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America.
And what's their proof? The violence we're seeing in Donald Trump's America.
Speaker 29 These are not images of some imagined Joe Biden America in the future.
Speaker 29 These are images of Donald Trump's America today.
Speaker 15 Okay, stop.
Speaker 39 This is...
Speaker 129 No, but Joe, you're missing that this is the Joe Biden administration of the past, you know, when
Speaker 74 you were in with Barack Obama.
Speaker 112 You remember Ferguson?
Speaker 54 Yeah, because you're responsible now for every single thing that happens in the country as president.
Speaker 54 Even when it's the opposing party running the city and doing the opposite of what you're asking, you're still
Speaker 38 responsible for it.
Speaker 24 He can't stop it unless he goes against the Constitution.
Speaker 38 Right.
Speaker 54 And he's offering federal help to all of these cities, and they're not taking it. Right.
Speaker 75 He can't just force help on those cities.
Speaker 9 Nor should he. It would be a dictatorship.
Speaker 7 No, you don't want that.
Speaker 54 It's not our system.
Speaker 129 Correct.
Speaker 108 It is a federalist system, which means the state overrules the Fed when it comes to this.
Speaker 34 You cannot
Speaker 74 say, no, we don't want troops in here as a governor and have the government send in troops.
Speaker 79 It's against the Constitution.
Speaker 54 And for all the accusations of Trump being this dictator,
Speaker 54 there's been times where the American people have been begging for him to send in federal help and he hasn't done it because, you know, we have a system of government he's respecting.
Speaker 79 So this was the message that they gave during the convention, the DNC.
Speaker 19 They never once talked about the violence getting out of control.
Speaker 47 They never once talked about anything about the protest other than it's peaceful, but never once did they condemn it.
Speaker 6 And then when they started to see the polls with people turning, then they decided we have to change.
Speaker 26 But I just want to remind you, first of all, this is how stupid they think their own voters are, that their own voters will buy into this.
Speaker 67 After months and months and months of hearing how peaceful this was and everything else, that we're supposed to now believe
Speaker 119 that
Speaker 6 somehow or another, you were for peace and you haven't caused any turmoil at all or supported turmoil.
Speaker 131 I want you to listen first of what Joe Biden said, that he's just their uniters and they want to bring everybody together.
Speaker 46 Is that really the message that they've been doing in their actions?
Speaker 15 Listen.
Speaker 29 As challenging as these.
Speaker 29
I believe there's only one way forward. As a united America.
A united America. United in our pursuit of a more perfect union.
Speaker 158 You could half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables.
Speaker 28 You can't trust this president to do what's right for this country.
Speaker 38 He's impeached forever, no matter what he says or whatever headlines he wants to carry around.
Speaker 35 You're impeached forever.
Speaker 152 We have a president who does not believe in democracy.
Speaker 152 A president who does not believe in our Constitution.
Speaker 160 He is someone who gives, who empowers white supremacists
Speaker 160 and who condones their behavior and an attempt to dismantle our our postal service out of a selfish desire if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black
Speaker 59 whoa
Speaker 15 now remember
Speaker 14 these are the people that are fully behind things like
Speaker 106 Here's one of the college directors from the
Speaker 50 she's a staff psychologist at Pacific University
Speaker 76 and she has a webinar rising from the margins and in it she says every white person in the country is racist so you you want to unite except for all the white people
Speaker 80 that that's that's that's Wallace man
Speaker 32 that's come on man that's Wallace Except you've just replaced black with white.
Speaker 74 It's the same kind of rhetoric that we had from the racist Democrats in the 1960s that were not that was not uniting, not uniting.
Speaker 47 So all last week they were saying, we've got to unite, we've got to unite, we've got to unite, and dismissing the riots as peaceful.
Speaker 105 Now the poll numbers come out, and now they have to say, oh, no, no, no, but no, no, no, it's no, we're against those things.
Speaker 62 It's Trump just stirring those things up.
Speaker 47 That's what's happening here.
Speaker 38 It's Trump.
Speaker 70 Listen.
Speaker 159 I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country and maybe there will be.
Speaker 5 People need to start taking to the streets. This is a dictator.
Speaker 161 You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives.
Speaker 159 Enemies of the state.
Speaker 116
Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite. and peaceful.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 160 Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless.
Speaker 140 Mago Mo, we killed.
Speaker 126 How do you resist the temptation to run up and bring her neck?
Speaker 99 Biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right.
Speaker 126
I thought he should have punched him in the face. I said, even if you lost, he insulted your wife.
He came on the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and murders.
Speaker 126 He said, well, what do you think I should have done? I said, I think you have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race. He would have been a hero.
Speaker 5 I'd like to punch him in the face.
Speaker 29 I said, if we were in high school, I'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
Speaker 143 Punch some people in the face.
Speaker 162 When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
Speaker 3 They're still gonna have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump, and that's a fact.
Speaker 160 Look, as his character is stabbed to death, where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?
Speaker 160 That's it right there, pulling up.
Speaker 15 I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
Speaker 163 A Missouri State Senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated.
Speaker 140 I will go and take Trump out tonight. And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
Speaker 140 And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
Speaker 159 And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 136 They're not going to stop before Election Day in November and they're not going to stop after Election Day.
Speaker 136 And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not going to let up and they should not.
Speaker 140 If you think we're rallying out, we ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 116 So who is it that's been stirring people up?
Speaker 123 And I have to tell you, the good news is they're only having to do this because the Tea Party and the right
Speaker 55 have been so careful to be peaceful.
Speaker 77 If we wouldn't have been peaceful, they just would have responded and they are better at riots and burning things down.
Speaker 27 And it would have been blamed on us.
Speaker 116 But because for the last 15 years,
Speaker 105 we have been patient and quiet and peaceful and we brought our kids to rallies, not Molotov cocktails.
Speaker 100 They've had to ramp their side up.
Speaker 93 They've had to spend millions of dollars helping them.
Speaker 46 And you know what?
Speaker 49 It's absolutely right.
Speaker 102 What
Speaker 79 Martin Luther King said is right.
Speaker 4 What the progressives knew in the early 1900s was right.
Speaker 79 Omar Wazzo, he
Speaker 86 was a
Speaker 79 guy who studied the historic impacts of peaceful protests by the left.
Speaker 42 And if there's peaceful protests by the left, like Martin Luther King, it will help Democrats by 2-3%.
Speaker 75 But violent pro-Democrat demonstrations help Republicans 2 to 8%.
Speaker 123 Now, this should actually play even a bigger role because now we can see not just what people are feeding us, we can see on social media exactly what's going on and we can judge for ourselves.
Speaker 41 They are expecting that you don't know the truth.
Speaker 79 And the media is taking such a hard line because they haven't learned a damn thing.
Speaker 24 They still think that they control the minds of people.
Speaker 41 And quite honestly, if we are not careful, The new media will control the minds of people.
Speaker 16 You know, the Russians did make an effort to hack our election
Speaker 118 and it is child's play what they did compared to the digital interference from our own tech giants.
Speaker 93 Surveillance, censorship, manipulation, these are the tools that Russia wished they had.
Speaker 16 And all three of them are
Speaker 118 well underway at Facebook and Google.
Speaker 48 Let's not forget that on the day after the election, the Google people stood together and they cried and said, we have to find ways to not let this happen again.
Speaker 2 Well, they have found ways.
Speaker 27 The left is trying to pretend that the rioting in our city is not their fault.
Speaker 54 They're trying to paint BLM not as a Marxist, insurrectionalist, revolutionary movement that it is, but a most peaceful, mostly peaceful group of just protesters.
Speaker 90 And the left has tapped their most powerful ally to pull the wool over your eyes.
Speaker 92 You don't know that big tech is manipulating you.
Speaker 85 Over the weekend, Twitter posts showed how a person started typing BLM is into the search bar.
Speaker 27 It auto-filled multiple suggestions like BLM is a Marxist organization, BLM is Marxist Train, BLM is Marxist movement, BLM is funded by, and several others.
Speaker 100 But just a little while later, all of those disappeared.
Speaker 27 Now go to your computer and type type in BLM is.
Speaker 40 BLM is Israel.
Speaker 36 Really?
Speaker 109 BLM Israel?
Speaker 18 Google controls 90% of the internet searches in most of the world.
Speaker 112 You have to see our special tomorrow night, Digital Stormtroopers, how big tech will silence you and steal the election.
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Speaker 96 So anyone who tells you that buying or selling a house isn't a team effort doesn't have any idea of what they're doing about buying or selling a house, period.
Speaker 85 It's one of the things that I learned over years of working with some of the best real estate agents in the country on a project that they were doing, and I was a spokesperson for.
Speaker 41 When you get somebody who can come to your house and you're wanting to put up on the market, look around,
Speaker 26 see if he can pull five numbers out of his or her phone and say, okay, this is what we're going to do, and here are the people you should call to do it.
Speaker 55 When that person has the numbers of somebody that can refinish your floors or repaint or replant or whatever it is,
Speaker 13 if they can't do it, you have a regular run of the mill.
Speaker 26 But if they have numbers at their fingertips that they've used before and they know they can get this thing done quickly, you've got something special.
Speaker 85 When you're trying to buy a home, you have to have an agent who can go into the lion's den with the sellers in the bank and can negotiate aggressively to get the best deal possible.
Speaker 135 That's when you know you have somebody special on the buying end.
Speaker 48 The real estate agents from real estate Estate Agents I Trust are something special.
Speaker 13 I don't want you to take my word for it.
Speaker 128 I want you to interview yourself.
Speaker 18 Realestateagents I trust.com.
Speaker 48 RealestateagentsITrust.com.
Speaker 83 Free service to you.
Speaker 148 You're listening to Glenn Beck.
Speaker 3 This is the Glenn Beck program.
Speaker 58 We were just talking off air.
Speaker 94 Stu is doing a show tonight on taking on Jim Gaffigan, who we both really like, and we like personally as well.
Speaker 77 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 105 And we know him, and
Speaker 11 I just don't know what he's doing other than
Speaker 122 feeling better, maybe personally, getting things off his chest and saying things he wants to, but
Speaker 70 it's not going to help him.
Speaker 42 Of course, he has the right to do that.
Speaker 30 Of course,
Speaker 88 but
Speaker 54 the question is, if your actual goal is not to make yourself feel good, but instead to influence people to an issue or an opinion you believe to be important, it's clear that this doesn't work.
Speaker 54 This approach of screaming at your audience with obscenities is not something that actually affects anyone. No one is pushed to your side.
Speaker 103 Now, they may be more ingrained in their own side.
Speaker 54 A Trump supporter might see a rant by Jim Gaffigan where he's calling them basically effing morons.
Speaker 54 They may see that as a place, as a reason to be more defensive of Trump and more defensive of their position, but they're certainly not going to be less.
Speaker 54 They're certainly not going to go to your side of the argument.
Speaker 9 They're not going to see the light because you're yelling at them.
Speaker 54 No. This does not work.
Speaker 135 And especially somebody like Gaffigan.
Speaker 34 If Gaffigan
Speaker 85 would have just been like, like he's always been, look, I disagree with you, but it's a free country.
Speaker 67 And then just calmly said, I don't agree with them.
Speaker 89 I worry about Donald Trump.
Speaker 18 He could have made inroads.
Speaker 102 I mean, I'm glad he didn't, but he could have made inroads, especially if he was funny about it and self-deprecating.
Speaker 83 But, and I know this from experience: the minute you get onto your high horse and you start saying, you're wrong, you're stupid, you lose.
Speaker 15 You lose.
Speaker 84 And I hate to see Jim Gaffigan hurt himself like this for no reason whatsoever.