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Stu.

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Ken Cuccinelli was on today.

Yeah.

He was great.

He's from DHS, acting deputy secretary, talking about going into Wisconsin now with the invitation from the governor.

We'll see how that works out.

We also talked to the really brave reporter from the Daily Caller,

who stood and

a lot of the video that we have now on, what is it called?

The

Rittenhouse effect.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Kyle Rittenhouse is the guy, the 17-year-old shooter that everyone's calling a white supremacist and no evidence whatsoever.

Yeah, it's crazy, but he talked about this in a way that you haven't heard before, and you really need to pay attention to that.

This is like a little mini Reich Dog fire.

If it wasn't for these people, these reporters going out and actually getting the story, you wouldn't know the truth.

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We talked about schools as

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Okay, so last night things got out of control again in Wisconsin.

I mean, I can't believe we're here even without the conventions.

I told you for what, two years, Wisconsin, I would sell my house right now in Wisconsin.

Democratic convention is going to be held there.

This is going to be a summer of blood, and

I wouldn't want to own property there because it's going to be riots.

Without the convention,

it's happening.

And I think worse

than

I would have have expected

this quickly, at least.

And the

federal government has finally been allowed in.

The governor yesterday said to Donald Trump, okay, okay, help.

So he sent them in.

Now, we have Ken Cuccinelli on the phone.

He's the,

I want to get this right here.

Hang on.

I don't even have my glasses on.

He is the acting deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

Ken, welcome to the program.

Always good to be with you, Glenn.

So, Ken,

you guys are in a really tough position.

Tell me what you're planning on doing and when does help arrive in Wisconsin.

So that's fair to say, but I would note that unlike, say, the Portland story that we've all been following for three months, and of course, I've been in the middle of it, here we have a governor who at least is willing to use his National Guard for one of the things they are they exist for right and that is keeping the peace he didn't bring enough numbers initially but he kept moving the numbers up to get to a point where they're adequate and he and president spoke of course and president has spoken vehemently about his desire for peace in all these communities and the willingness to move people in.

And this is the peace through strength plan in the civilian environment, Glenn.

It's, you know, you bring enough law enforcement responsibly executed, and there is no violence.

We saw that happen in Minneapolis after the tragic killing of George Floyd, as the first reaction in Minneapolis was give them room to riot, the old Baltimore concept.

Well, that didn't work.

And so then they brought in the guard, and lo and behold, things were calmed down because those who contemplated violence knew there were consequences.

And we're seeing that shift take place in Wisconsin.

Do we wish it happened faster?

Yes.

But you'll see the Department of Justice is moving over 200 marshals, FBI agents, ATF agents into Kenosha.

They've also got extra prosecution help up there, all in addition to

the guard commitments from the president and the willingness of Governor Evers to use them.

So So here's the problem that we have.

The left has run unchecked, and the American people, I mean, 5 million new gun owners in the United States just in the first quarter of this year or second quarter of this year.

And that's all because people feel like there's...

There's nobody to protect me.

This is why the Second Amendment says a well-regulated militia.

And a militia is happening as your last resort.

There's nobody coming to help you.

And that's, I think, where people are starting to feel, and that becomes very dangerous.

So how do you guys,

at the federal level, because

I'm a federalist, I believe in the state power.

Yeah, you too.

So how do you balance this so it doesn't spiral out of control?

Because the left wants a fight.

They want it.

They do in many respects.

I mean, you can see lots of these politicians on the left who encourage the violent protesters, but without condemning the violence.

Correct.

And even using the phrase violent protesters is not accurate.

Those are rioters and criminals and in some cases terrorists.

So,

you know, we

do need to fix that even myself.

But that kind of encouragement reaches a situation like we saw in Portland last weekend, where you then get, and Kenosha, frankly, you get people who don't believe that law enforcement is going to be provided or allowed to do its job adequately, and they start showing up to do it.

And

very sort of frontier mentality, if you will, in some cases.

But also it's other groups who are looking to fight.

And if you don't calm that violence soon and relatively quickly, you invite that kind of violence which really spirals out of control.

That that's a that's war in the streets

between different Americans, and they may all be misbehaving, to put it mildly,

but they've been given free reign to do so by the left-wing leadership in those communities.

Then you asked the Federalist question, which is one I'm very sensitive to.

I'm sure that's no surprise to you.

We have limited federal jurisdiction.

The federal government isn't just another police

office.

And we can't be.

No, we don't want that.

That is a, you know, it's really bad.

You get what you vote for.

Yes.

And in Portland, they're getting destruction.

And they're not going to, I mean, who would you open a business in Portland in the next 50 years?

I wouldn't.

No.

No, it's going to destroy these cities.

It is going to destroy these cities.

That's right.

And the people least able to adjust to that are the poorest people in those cities.

So, Ken, help me out on this.

You used to be the attorney general for the state of Virginia.

This kid that shot the guy in the head the other day and then shot the other guy in the arm, he is being painted as, you know, just this militia white supremacist kind of guy.

I would not want my kid down there.

I would tell them not to go.

I would say, even if you want to be an angel of mercy, then you have to be like Mother Teresa.

Don't bring a gun.

It's a dangerous, dangerous situation.

However, we have him on tape a half hour before

talking about his view.

He seems like he's just there.

He's like, look, I'm only bringing my gun because I'm not stupid.

I know it's dangerous and I'm going to defend myself, but I'm here to do medical aid.

Then you have the guy who was killed.

We have him on three different occasions taunting and chasing and tackling this kid.

The third time is when he turns because he's right on top of him and shoots.

And he continues to chase him, and then he shoots him in the head.

Then the other guy that he shoots while he's laying down, we have video of that guy approaching him with a gun, pointing it to him like execution style, and that's when he shoots that guy's arm off.

They're charging him with first-degree murder.

How?

Well,

that's a pretty

knee-jerk reaction.

And, you know, they're charging him because he shot people, but you're going to see undoubtedly the self-defense argument made.

I I tweeted on this yesterday, noting with a lot of the interviews that this kid happened to give beforehand, he was not speaking against any of the people protesting or any of the abuse.

So so, you know, you've got to and my point in that I was tweeting about is this is this is complex investigation.

And to your point, the the instant labeling is likely inaccurate, though I don't have enough information to draw conclusions.

Neither do I.

I don't want to do that either, but my point is neither does anybody else.

Correct.

But there's a desire to paint a narrative out there that there's a lot of evidence just with this particular kid that doesn't seem to fit.

So

I would note that to our earlier discussion, when you let violence run amok like this, you get people who just feel like they're

doing their duty backing up police.

Correct.

Obviously, without the training, without the coordination of mutual support of other security forces,

going out there and

trying to do what this kid was doing.

And you end up with this kind of scattered violence.

And I don't think anybody wants that anywhere in any of their cities.

And yet, I mean, Kenosha, it's not like

Detroit.

I know, but I tell you, Ken.

I don't see any city in America.

they they we had several reports last night of neighborhoods um people walking down the street three o'clock in the morning wake up wake up you know give us your houses that what that's emails from richmond you know there's nothing has happened in richmond per se i got an email yet this morning about incidents like this from last night and when that multiple gunshots as well when that happens you will have you know citizens watch uh parties and they'll have guns And because if they feel the police are not going to help them, they will band together.

And that's a bad situation.

But I completely understand it.

If I think police are not coming to my neighborhood, you damn right I've got a gun and I'll shoot you on my property.

Well, and and honestly,

self-defense is the most the single most important thing the Second Amendment is for, right?

Right.

So

there were no police in 1791 when when that was ratified.

And,

you know, there weren't for many, many years in the United States.

So people are used to the cultural requirement of at least being protected, being their first line of defense.

We are our own first line of defense.

And when you are in cities where you've got politicians who refuse, as we see in Portland,

to do police work,

then you can fully expect expect to see more of this kind of response.

People are going to take things on themselves, and they don't have crowd control munitions.

When they're threatened, they only have one next step to go to, and that's shooting for self-defense.

If we want to avoid this, we need better leadership in many of these cities.

Ken, I know

you're a little busy today, so I know your time pressure.

Let me just ask you one more question.

I started the show saying, normally the biggest storm to hit Louisiana in 160 years, the most powerful storm to hit that area in 160 years, would be the lead story in all anybody's talking about.

But we have so many other things.

I don't want to lose sight of that.

What are you guys doing down there?

So Laura made landfall at 2 a.m.

this morning Eastern Time.

It came with a big storm surge.

Very big.

And, you know, we measure these hurricanes on wind, but the water does so much damage.

And

that's where our fear resides more than anything.

We pre-positioned 500,000 meals, 800,000 liters of water, and numerous teams to be prepared to respond as soon as the danger struck.

And all our teams are in action right now.

Laura has not moved out of Louisiana.

It's moving northeast.

probably crossing the state for the duration of the day, headed into Arkansas.

And

the secretaries talked to both governors

yesterday.

And

as much teamwork and preparation as we can do is in place.

And we in the federal government are supportive.

That's our role is to support the state and local responses.

And while Louisiana is experienced at this, it's not the kind of experience any state wants.

So we're prepared to do an awful lot of work to help keep folks safe there and to help those communities recover.

And that's something the president already declared emergencies.

He's got us leaning forward as far as we can.

81 miles north of Lake Charles, the real scary thing in New Orleans really is New Orleans because it's just a bowl.

And if it fills up, how is New Orleans doing?

Have you heard?

Well, as of yesterday, I actually talked to folks in New Orleans, and

when you compare weather across the whole front, they were doing pretty well.

Good.

As you note, you know, we talked about water.

The flooding can hit New Orleans later.

It doesn't have to be immediate.

So, that's something that the Army Corps and the rest of us will keep our eye on as well.

Okay, Ken, thank you very much.

Ken Cuccinelli from the Department of Homeland Security.

Thank you.

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Yesterday, we told you what was going on in Kenosha and the shooting that happened.

And

this morning, we had the deputy secretary or

assistant secretary of DHS on with us, Ken Cuccinelli.

He was talking about the National Guard not only going down to Louisiana and everything that's been happening with the federal government down in Louisiana, but also the Wisconsin governor finally said to Donald Trump, okay, okay, we'll take your help.

So they're on their way up to Kenosha.

One of the

really, the only reason we know what's going on and that there is a chance that what's now being called the Rittenhouse incident

is known and doesn't become the Reichstag fire is because we have people on the ground, really brave reporters who are willing to go in

and

videotape.

And so we have this incident from like four different angles now, none of them from the networks.

The networks are saying this was straight-up murder.

Well, I don't know.

I think you could make a case that not even close, but we'll see how this plays out.

Richie McGinnis, he is with the Daily Caller, and he is the chief video director, and he has been there.

In fact, he's the guy who first rushed to the guy that was shot in the head and helped him into the ambulance, helped carry his body to help.

And Richie is with us now.

Richie, how are you?

I'm good, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

First of all, I mean this sincerely.

It's not just a quick, how are you?

You guys have got to be, you're running on very little sleep, and there's got to be some PTSD

going on.

Are you sleeping?

Are you doing all right?

Well, last night I slept quite well, actually.

I think it actually took me a bit of time to sink in.

Yeah.

But

yeah, as far as that, I mean, that's the kind of stuff that our first responders and law enforcement deal with.

I know.

Do you have a bulletproof vest?

Not yet, but

you have one coming?

I'm going to get around in front of me the other night.

Yeah, I think I should get one.

Yeah, okay.

So

I would like to supply you with one, and I will get you a vest, and we'll see what we can do to

protect you.

I know you don't work with me, and we don't really know each other, but I really respect what you're doing, and I really thank you

for being there to document it because we're in real trouble if somebody doesn't do what you're doing.

Tell me exactly what happened

that night.

What did you see?

So actually, right before

the shooting took place, I witnessed the riot control clear out protesters from an area that had been burned out two consecutive nights.

And actually, the night prior to the shooting, I saw the business that Kyle was standing in front of burning with the business owners and some employees of that business using a power washer to try to put out the fire because

the fire trucks weren't coming.

And so the next night I saw Kyle along with a number of other armed men, some of them were also on the roof of the business, standing with what looked to be AR-15

at least over Kyle's shoulder.

And I immediately asked if any of them would be interested in doing an interview as to why they were there.

And Kyle volunteered.

He actually didn't volunteer his name, but he said that he was willing to appear on camera and give an interview.

So I interviewed him for about two and a half minutes.

And

actually,

after the interview concluded, they said, we're going to go try to find

if anybody needs medical aid after this,

after the riot control just came through, and tear gassed people.

So they actually went out into the crowd to left the dealership.

Kyle was shouting out, Does anybody need medical aid?

Does anybody need medical aid?

And that was just a few minutes before everything took place.

So that was where everything started.

And obviously, things descended into chaos very quickly after that.

Is there any indication from you, Richie, that he

was,

you know, a white supremacist, that he had the intention of going out and shooting people?

I mean, they're charging him with first-degree murder.

Any indication that that's who this guy was?

So obviously I'm not going to speculate on the legal side of things, you know, whether it was murder, whether it was self-defense.

That's a force to decide.

But what I can say is that during the brief time that I met him, he came across as a very young and innocent kid who did not know the degree of the situation that he was in.

And again, I only spoke to him for about two minutes, and that was the first time I had ever seen him before.

But that was my first perception.

He told me that he was there both to protect the business and to make sure that anybody who needed medical aid would get it.

And he also did note the absence of police and the necessity for somebody to provide a degree of law and order.

So that was, you know, again, it was only about a two and a half minute interaction.

So I, I, yeah.

Right.

Okay.

So

you were there when he was, he didn't trip and fall.

He was kicked to the ground.

Uh, and a guy came at him with a skateboard, was going to beat him with that.

Another guy came at him with a gun.

Um, I mean, he, he, it, this looks like total self-defense to me.

Did you see, did you witness that part of the shooting too, or were you with

so?

Actually, I was in the hospital by then.

Okay.

Well, actually, I was heading to the hospital by then.

The shooting that I witnessed was the first shooting, which is the one playing right now.

And that was

when things really started.

I believe that the second shooting that took place

very, very soon after.

But after the shots were fired, people were just looking for individuals with guns to

detain or whatever.

the New York, even the New York Times said in their TikTok that they released today that

the guy who was shot was

pursuing, we have him on tape as being a real antagonist to these guys, calling them all kinds of names that we can't say on the air, the N-word, et cetera, et cetera.

He was picking a fight.

He had tried to jump.

Rittenhouse several times, at least two that we know of.

And when you look at what the New York Times is reporting, they're saying that, and you can see it on the videotape, your videotape,

there is a shot.

He's running.

He sees the guy behind him.

He hears a shot.

He thinks he's being fired at.

He turns around, tries to shoot at the guy.

The guy continues to chase him.

I think it's six shots ring out from elsewhere that you can hear, right?

Yeah, I actually, that was my two of my colleagues who filmed the video.

I was actually six or seven feet behind them.

And once I realized that this situation was turning into a situation where somebody was going to get shot, I actually focused more on what was in front of me than

anything else.

My phone in my hand.

And actually, I was about seven feet behind them when

the people who were shot reached for Kyle's weapon.

I saw that happen

and he basically avoided the

reach and then fired.

What I saw were three shots from Kyle's gun, but I also heard some other shots coming from elsewhere.

So you

got you were behind.

Did you fear for your life?

Is it reasonable to believe that Kyle was freaking out thinking they were shooting at him?

Yeah, so actually I was running behind them because me being the middle of three brothers, my first instinct was to yell at them, to chill out, because I knew, and I've been in Seattle, I've been in Portland, I've been in New York, I've been in DC, these protest zones, things spiral out of control very quickly.

So knowing that Kyle was a young man that I just interviewed with a very powerful weapon in his hands, I was trying to emphasize the fact that everybody just needed to stop because this was going to get bad quickly.

And basically the moment that I was doing that, I was running behind them.

Kyle turned around and I'm not sure if he turned around because a shot rang out or if he turned around because the man was pursuing him and he felt cornered but what I do know is that the moment that he turned around I entered the line of fire because I was behind that man just about seven feet you can see in the video I'm actually standing right there I take about two steps back I'm not sure if it was Kyle's weapon or if it was the other shots that were fired but I felt some concrete hit my legs and I assumed that that was some kind of ricochet or something but once I realized that I actually hadn't been hit I ran over to provide medical aid to the man who was lying lifeless on the ground.

And I actually didn't realize at the time I saw Kyle run, and I assumed that he was gone.

But he actually goes around the car and comes up behind me as I kneeled over him.

And I actually turned and just saw legs next to me.

I said, What are you doing?

Call 911.

And the individual, who I now realized hours later that it was Kyle, pulled out his phone.

Now, I don't know who he called or what he did, but he ran away very soon after that as the crowd descended on the body that I was trying to provide assistance to.

Richie, again,

thank you for what you do.

I have to ask this question.

Why are you doing this?

Glenn, when all of this stuff started after George Floyd

was killed or died,

Our team was based in Washington, D.C., and we were there at the White House on the ground when things really started to spiral out of control.

And as these protest zones sprung up around the country, what we noticed is that nobody was on the ground in the 12 a.m.

to 4 a.m.

hours when all of the actual violence takes place.

So we went to Seattle, for example, and you'd see all the network news reporters out there.

Well, it's very much a party-like atmosphere out here.

And you'd see them do their dayside hits.

You'd see them do their hits at 7 p.m.

And it was at that time.

But they weren't out there at 12 a.m.

or 2 a.m.

or 3 a.m.

when fights were happening with individuals who were all armed, with no police officers anywhere to be seen, and no chance for police to even come in there because

they couldn't.

So

I knew that that was our video team's responsibility to tell the American public exactly what was going on in those zones at that time because the prevailing narrative was that you know it was peaceful in all Kumbaya kumbaya and uh what we saw and what we reported on

i just speaks to itself i don't know if this was your video last night but i saw sheriffs you know armored uh car come into kenosha last night and these guys had guns uh they were calling the sheriffs all kinds of names come on out fight come on out uh it was ugly What are you expecting people to do when the feds arrive?

It's interesting because what we saw happen in Portland is, I think, very much being reflected here.

The courthouse is really, in this case, it's a county courthouse, not a federal courthouse, but it's very much the center of the protests.

And actually, they put up a fence that's almost exactly the same construction as the one in Portland.

And

what happened in Portland is when the feds arrived, things escalated because the perception of the protesters, or whatever you want to call them,

was that

Donald Trump was putting his foot in their community.

And I think that this is

only the beginning of the protests that we're going to see here in Kenosha as well, similar to what we're seeing in Portugal.

All right, Richie, thank you.

Please stay safe.

Please stay safe and reach out.

If there's anything that I can do for you,

please reach out.

You are doing important work.

God bless.

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I want to play a couple of clips from last night.

Here's Burgess Owens on what the people want you to believe.

I was raised in the South during the days of Jim Crow and the KKK.

Even through the challenges of segregation, We were taught that anything is possible in America.

When I was 22 years old, I thought all my dreams had come true when I was drafted by the New York Jets.

Ten years later, with a Pro Bowl nod and a Super Bowl championship under my belt, I left the NFL to start a business.

I thought I could never fail, but years later I did, and I lost everything.

As I moved my family of six into a one-bedroom basement apartment in Brooklyn, New York, I had a choice to make, to feel sorry for myself or get to work.

I worked as a chimney sweep during the day and a security guard at night.

It was humbling to be recognized cleaning a chimney by someone who once cheered me as an NFL fan.

But those hard days would pay off and eventually I started a career, rewarding career, in the corporate world.

We live in a country where we're encouraged to dream big, where second chances are at the core of our American DNA.

We don't hear that same message from Nancy Plosi's Congress.

Career politicians, elitists, and even a former bartender want us to believe it's impossible.

They want us to believe that what I did, what my great-great-grandfather did, is impossible for ordinary Americans.

Burgess Sowens is with us now.

Burgess, first of all, hello, Gov.

I didn't know you were a chimney.

I didn't know you were a chimney sweep.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It was a very important chapter in my life, to be honest with you.

It's called a humbling process.

Yeah.

It was good.

I bet it was.

I mean,

I know what it's like to be at the top of the world and then not be at the top of the world.

And that is a really difficult thing to, if you don't expect, if you don't accept that as a great lesson of humility, it can really drive you crazy.

Congratulations.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

And I'll tell you that this is the thing that one American could tell the other, the greatest words, nine words of hope.

If I can do it, you can do it.

And we all go through our obstacles.

That's what we have to realize.

There's nobody exempt from it.

We just have to embrace it, not hoard those tough times.

Let people know, listen, I know what it looks like.

So country, as long as you dream big, as long as you hang tough and just keep up the good work, keep the faith, good things will happen to this country.

That's what it's all about.

So I noticed during your speech, they put last night, they started putting up to

register to vote, text this number.

And

I think that the RNC has done the best job of reaching out to a community that they have only just kind of scratched the surface because they've never believed it was worth the time, that nobody would ever change their vote, that no black person would ever vote for a Republican over a Democrat.

And this convention is

so different than any RNC convention I've ever seen.

Well, you know what it is?

We're at a point, Glenn, and we look at it, and this has been a really rough year, but it's also a year in which there's no more gray.

We're seeing,

to no question, what we've been talking about for years.

It's no longer hypothetical, what social and Marxism looks like.

We see it full fair face, and we have Americans across the board can finally have conversations about what we don't want.

We want light,

we want hope, we want opportunity, we don't want dark, the depression, death, and destruction.

We never have been there, and I think that the left, just because they have no vision, they have no idea

if they push this way too far.

And American people are just not going to put up with it.

So, Burgess, let me ask you this.

I know

to some degree because I've been told what it is like to be a conservative and black.

And so many times, and I've had this experience being conservative in New York, where people will come up and say, I'm conservative, too, but don't say anything.

Is that changing

in the black community where they're not whispering as much?

Are you seeing?

Oh, my goodness.

It's a sea change.

It is.

I think

the greatest president of President Obama was that he was such a lousy president that black people finally say, you know, whatever happened to hope and change.

what really was the deal?

And we have people literally, when I go to the airports, black people wearing MAGA hats.

We have a walkaway campaign.

We have the Blexit.

That is what's scaring the left so much.

They have been addicted to us for decades, and we're finally realizing that we're walking, not just walking away, we're sprinting away.

So, no, I'm excited about what's happening.

And for those who are just kind of, you know, what I think is going to happen, those who still don't quite understand all of

the ways that we believe in our party, they're realizing when they see their homes being destroyed or their lives, their businesses being just upended, they're realizing that there's something wrong with the party they were part of.

And all we have to do is have more voices like ours, and that's going to continue to move us in the right direction.

I feel very hopeful, Glenn, for what's happening across the country.

You know, it was a lot easier to make this case before COVID

because people were actually seeing it.

Now they're struggling again, and

the black communities, and it's not helping in some cities when they're burning things down to the ground antifa is doing that

um

yeah is

how is the attitude towards the economy because when people are hungry you know they they

they're hungry

well

here's the deal um when you have black people who all they want is life liberty in pursuit of happiness and they see these uh these white blm uh dot ink people coming through uh with a few blacks that are kind of with them they see Antifa, and they're destroying their community, destroying their livelihood.

And they're telling us they need to defund.

The black community is finally getting it, that they never have been a priority to the left.

And then, and the more messages we get out there like we're doing right now, the more they're going to understand it.

So I think there's going to be a big speed change, to be honest with you.

And I'll say this, Glenn.

I've always believed that the black community and the Hispanic community and

those minorities that we've been kind of marginalized to a degree are going to be the communities that as we pull ourselves back from the abyss, will pull our entire country back.

History will be told that it was the black, it was the minority communities that truly was the salvation for our nation because we're getting it, we're waking up, and as we do so, the left has so little power, and they cannot get their illegals in fast enough to replace us.

So, and they can't get enough

torgential ballots in to replace us.

So, this will go down to history as

the minorities, those who had trouble in assimilating, as being

the people that bring our country back and show the rest of the world what America really looks like.

We're talking to Burgess Owens.

He is a candidate.

You're the fourth district in Utah, right?

Yep.

Yep.

Not something, I mean, I've known you for a long time.

Not something that you've ever wanted to do,

which I think you should wear that as a badge of honor.

Well, you know, Glenn, when our conversation is always about the second chance for little youth, it was all about the kids that we all believe our future and i realized this time last year that if we don't get the house back our kids here in utah around the country do not have a chance because it's always been about policies and as we know the left the elitist love to put in policies to keep people miserable dependent and hopeless and you see that now across the country so and

we have such a good group i'll say that those that are listening look at your your district if you have a if you have a republican that's standing vote for him or her support them this is a this is a very different class of individuals that are patriots, that know how to replicate a president who understands what American love and leadership looks like.

We can change this country in such a big way by getting in the House, putting some more backbone in our Senate, and allowing our president to have four more years.

I say this: we have a renaissance ahead of us.

Great things will come together, and we'll finally point out who our true enemy is.

And it's not each other, it's that hard left, Marxist socialist, that's done so much damage to so many who trudged them in the past.

We're talking to Burgess Owens.

Burgess, when you stood on the stage last night and did that, can you just take me, just a personal kind of thing?

Take me through what it's like to receive a call from whomever, does the White House call you and say

we want you to speak.

And then to find yourself on a stage knowing that 20 million people are listening to your words.

What is the pressure like?

What is that like?

Thank goodness, Glenn.

We didn't talk to you.

You weren't telling me there was 20 million people.

I might have had a different approach on it if I'd known that.

But here's the thing.

This is where dreams can come true.

Two years ago, I wrote my last book, Why I Stand, and I was hoping, not thinking about politics, hoping to just get a presence so I can some way to go across the country and help give a voice to those who are running for office that needed my voice.

And so, and I've always hoped that maybe, hopefully, I can maybe be part of a convention.

Maybe my voice could be there.

So, maybe for me to get that call, it was just a confirmation: dream big, go toward it, know that there's a perfect plan out there.

If you want to make a difference, Heavenly Father will find a way for you to do that.

And I just thought it was just remarkable.

And to get through it,

and for them to say finally, you know, that the talk worked out pretty good.

For me, that was a magic moment.

I could relax and now go back and enjoy.

So

it was a good one.

It really was.

It's an exciting moment.

It's good to watch you go through this whole cycle.

And thank you for everything that you have done.

You were fantastic on our special this summer when you were out at Gettysburg talking about, was it your great-grandfather or your

great-great-grandfather Silas Burgess?

And everybody's beginning to know about him.

And I'm so thankful because that is the American dream.

That's the American way.

Tell her real quick.

How you get here.

Tell her real quick.

Great-great-grandfather Silas Burgess came here in the belly of the slaveship, 20 years old,

escaped to the north of the Underground Railroad, got out to Texas, became a successful entrepreneur, started the

first black church, the first black elementary school,

purchased 102 acres of land, paid off in in two years, and was a tremendous Christian who was able to forgive because of the people he met coming across the plains and realized that

all whites were not bad.

There were good Americans out there helping them to make it happen.

And that's what we, the people, Glenn, have always done.

If we ever learn our history, we can never, ever start

go to the racist rate because we have been so good to helping each other out.

And it doesn't matter what our color are, what our religion is, we the people have done great things.

We just have to remember that.

And he's a good example of that, by the way.

Burgess, thank you so much.

It's an honor to be your friend.

Burgess4utah.com.

Burgess4uta.com.

Thank you so much, Burgess.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

All right, go back.

Yeah, get him to win.

He needs to win.

Maybe great.

Yeah.

You know, by the way,

the last poll, there's only been one poll that I've seen from that race.

It was an exact tie.

So this is a very, you know, very winnable for Burgess.

He'd be great in Congress.

And it's in Utah.

It's a swing district.

I can't believe that he wouldn't win, but you know,

I don't know who the American people are anymore.

I really don't.

No, no, no, no.