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Speaker 2 Hey, it's Pat Grave for Stuart today on the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 2 Today, we start off the show with some of the exciting headlines over the weekend, including federal agents arresting protesters in Portland.

Speaker 2 There's more on Nick Cannon's future after his anti-Semitic comments.

Speaker 2 And how China is refusing to respond to drone footage of what seems to be Uyghurs being escorted onto trains while blindfolded and handcuffed. Won't seem to answer what that's all about.

Speaker 2 Also, Mary Trump speaks with Rachel

Speaker 2 about how racist the Trump family is. And we have a very special guest, Dr.
Vodi Bacham, to talk about how sleep is now considered white privilege and how far until the church is considered racist.

Speaker 2 All of that, and a lot more coming up on the podcast today.

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Speaker 2 She blew the lid off.

Speaker 2 If you're a Trump supporter, look out. Look out.

Speaker 2 Because here she comes.

Speaker 2 Let's play Cut 19 first.

Speaker 2 What Mary has heard her uncle say.

Speaker 3 Washington Post.

Speaker 3 And you said there was, she's quoted you saying there was knee-jerk anti-Semitism, knee-jerk racism in your family.

Speaker 3 The post quotes you were saying, growing up, it was sort of normal to hear them use the N-word or use anti-Semitic expressions.

Speaker 3 I just wanted you to expand on that. Do you mean just generally within the family that was an accepted thing? Or do you mean specifically you heard your Uncle Donald use this kind of language?

Speaker 2 Listen to this, listen this.

Speaker 4 Just generally, with the older generations. Just generally.

Speaker 2 The older generations.

Speaker 4 As if it were perfectly commonplace and ordinary to say such things.

Speaker 4 I had the benefit of living in

Speaker 4 Not Jamaica Estates and going to school in Forest Hills.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I didn't share

Speaker 4 their ideas about

Speaker 2 that. But it was commonplace to hear the older generation

Speaker 2 do that.

Speaker 2 Really? So, like, Donald Trump's dad, who was raised in like the 20s and 30s, might have been, might have used the N-word or might have used the word colored

Speaker 2 somebody who was in their 60s, in the 60s and 70s. I find that hard to believe, Pat.
Find that hard to believe.

Speaker 2 So, but she lived in Jamaica. I mean, not.
Jamaica, Jamaica.

Speaker 2 You know, there are too many black people there. That's what I heard her say.
That's what I heard her say.

Speaker 2 But anyway, so she went on, and

Speaker 2 Rachel pinned her down. Now,

Speaker 2 listen to this good journalism.

Speaker 2 Here she is. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
But did you hear your uncle say that?

Speaker 3 I have to press you on it a little bit.

Speaker 3 Just to ask

Speaker 3 the president, if your uncle was an exception to that in your family, or if he,

Speaker 3 if, if you ever ever heard him express

Speaker 3 either these anti-Semitic slurs or the N-word or other racist slurs or other sentiments like that was was it do you mean this is an ambient thing in your family but you can't say that you ever heard it from him or did you hear it from him too

Speaker 4 oh yeah yeah of course I did wow and I I don't think that should surprise anybody given how virulently racist he is today

Speaker 2 right yeah right that's what I was thinking I was thinking I look at him and I see nothing but a racist. A guy who's lived in New York,

Speaker 2 has always had great relationship with the African-American community,

Speaker 2 very, very popular with the African-American community until he ran for president and they did this smear job on him. But

Speaker 2 that's what I think all the time. I think, man, he's so virulent in his racism.
I'd like to hear it. Oh, don't you? Give me one example of virulent racism from Donald Trump today.
I'd love to hear it.

Speaker 2 Give me one example. You can't even, you don't push back a little bit on that? No.
I don't, man.

Speaker 2 I can't even take your racism. I bet you're not even wearing a mask right now.
I'm not.

Speaker 2 You're just such an outrageous white privileged Klan member that just goes along with whatever Donald Trump says, never questioning. It's science, Pat.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Follow the science.

Speaker 2 I love that. That's just the way you cannot talk to these people.
You can't argue with them or debate them or just even have a reasonable conversation.

Speaker 2 They just automatically go to, it's your whiteness,

Speaker 2 it's your

Speaker 2 privilege. It's how much you want to kill people.

Speaker 2 It's how much you're a hater. I mean, it's incredible.

Speaker 2 They don't have to have any facts at all. No facts.
No facts. Oh, and they don't.
She's, she, she, they don't. Well, and she's, she's sold.
She, she, she, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 She revealed that Donald Trump's friend, she thinks, took his SATs for him. What more, what, what facts are missing there?

Speaker 2 Well, there's, there's also the fact that his dad may not have been very nice. Uh, you got that lid blower right there.

Speaker 2 Whoa.

Speaker 2 Wow. Whoa.
Wow.

Speaker 2 I never saw anything but a happy relationship with his dad. Right.
You know, never, never. I've never had an inkling of that.
His virulent racism. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. It's crazy out there.

Speaker 2 But anything that would say he might not have had a good relationship with his dad. Didn't see it coming.
Never saw it. Never saw it.
Never saw it. Now,

Speaker 2 here's the NBC news as they begin to report this over the weekend. Bombshell accusations.
Listen. We get late details on that from NBC's Jeff Bennett.

Speaker 5 Tonight, a stunning new accusation from President Trump's niece, Mary Trump, telling MSNBC's Rachel Maddow she's heard the president use anti-Semitic slurs and the opposite.

Speaker 2 Stop for a second. Stop for a second.
Is this just a bad video, or does this guy have one of the worst speech impediments I've heard from a national reporter?

Speaker 2 He tells NBC News that there is a well, I've got a really bad speech impediment, and nobody has even talked to me about having that worked on or looked at. It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 Could we go back and listen to that? Because that's, I mean, that's a professional broadcaster there.

Speaker 2 We get to leap details on that from NBC's Jeff Bennett.

Speaker 5 Tonight, a stunning new accusation from President Trump's niece

Speaker 5 Mary Trump telling MSNBC's Rachel Maddow she's heard the president use anti-Semitic slurs and the N-word.

Speaker 3 I have to press you on it a little bit.

Speaker 3 Just to ask if the president, if your uncle was an exception to that in your family, or

Speaker 3 if you ever heard him express, either use anti-Semitic slurs or the N-word or other racist slurs or other sentiments like that.

Speaker 3 Do you mean this is an ambient thing in your family, but you can't say that you ever heard it from him? Or did you hear it from him too?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah, of course I did.

Speaker 4 Of course.

Speaker 4 And I don't think that should surprise anybody given how virulently racist he is today.

Speaker 2 They still will not admit that Woodrow Wilson was a racist. And he's out there practically in the Klan outfit.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. He wasn't that bad.
He was one of the greatest presidents of all time. And Donald Trump is virulent in his racism.

Speaker 2 I really would like an example. I really would.

Speaker 2 The only thing they ever go to is what he said

Speaker 2 in the first day, I think, of the campaign when he said, and the Mexicans coming across the border,

Speaker 2 some of them are this, some of them are that, and there's rapists. Well, they've made that out to be, I mean, he spoke it, I guess, inarticulately, but he wasn't saying that all Mexicans are rapists.

Speaker 2 I've never seen him do that. I've never seen him do that, Pat.
He's always right on script. He's always just perfectly eloquent.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's ridiculous. It is.
Donald Trump says some of the craziest stuff, and he doesn't mean that. No, he does not.
But, you know, of course,

Speaker 2 we don't actually look into deeper meanings.

Speaker 2 There was a story that came out, I think it was yesterday that I read, that was talking about how you cannot believe any of the poll numbers because people are just not going to say that they are voting for Donald Trump and that these poll numbers are all upside down.

Speaker 2 Do you believe that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't believe that Joe Biden's up by 15 points. So, yeah, something's going on.

Speaker 2 Either people are lying to them or these are, you know, I don't know that they're fake polls like the president keeps saying.

Speaker 2 But this happened before, too.

Speaker 2 They had Clinton up by 15, 20 points at about this time in the 2016 election. And look what happened there.
So

Speaker 2 I don't know why.

Speaker 2 President Trump said to, I think, Chris Wallace over the weekend that in some cases they're surveying just 22% Republicans and the rest Democrats or Independents, which could have a huge impact on any poll.

Speaker 2 Huge. But oh, because they've weighted the Republicans so heavily? Yeah.
I haven't, but 22%, because we all know that there's not 22% of this country being Republican. Yeah, that's ridiculous.
I mean,

Speaker 2 we're all Marxists now.

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Speaker 2 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed.

Speaker 2 It's available wherever you download your favorite podcasts. I wanted to talk to you about

Speaker 2 the whiteness chart that was revealed last week that came out of the Smithsonian,

Speaker 2 but also

Speaker 2 the fact that soap is now racist because it was trying to show that cleanliness is next to godliness, which is a white idea. And the fact that sleep reparations need to be made.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Any thoughts on that one?

Speaker 6 I mean, it's crazy. And remember, there's a couple of things that we've talked about, Glenn.
One I talked about the first time we talked was my fear of backlash.

Speaker 6 And I think that we are starting to see some of that backlash because some of these things are so crazy, so stupid, they make absolutely no sense. And so

Speaker 6 people are, they're not taking these things seriously anymore. People are throwing their hands up and saying, okay, fine.

Speaker 6 I've tried to be understanding. I tried to be sensitive.

Speaker 6 I tried to listen. I tried to hear.
I tried to work toward. you know,

Speaker 6 something. You know, nobody ever said what we were working toward, right? Because everybody always said, well, I don't know what the answers are, right?

Speaker 6 And so now people are saying, but the more we do this, the more ridiculous things become. The further you have to reach in order to identify what's really wrong.
So

Speaker 6 that's the first thing that I'm seeing is this kind of backlash that's coming.

Speaker 6 But the second thing, and we've talked about this as well, you know, a lot of people are saying to me, well, you keep talking about all of the, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement and, you know, critical theory, cultural Marxism, and

Speaker 6 you're not talking about the fact that they're killing us well one of those things is a narrative that's not true the the the fact that you know police are running around america looking for black men to kill um unarmed black men to kill that's not true that narrative is not true it's not happening and i keep hearing people say it there in the u.s people are saying it here in other parts of the world as well that it is not true that's not the threat what the threat is critical theory and i think this chart gives an example of what I was trying to say when I said, ultimately, they're coming for Christianity.

Speaker 2 Well, this is exactly what I would expect from a race trader, somebody who has traded his,

Speaker 2 betrayed his own race, quite honestly,

Speaker 2 or an Uncle Tom.

Speaker 2 That's the way

Speaker 2 you would be responded to and dismissed. But I instead would like to hear what you're saying about Christianity because I know it's true.
And I don't think Christians understand

Speaker 2 that our churches are going to be deemed racist. And in this culture, where the cry of racism is simultaneously a roll-your-eye joke

Speaker 2 and something that will get you fired

Speaker 2 or,

Speaker 2 you know, get get you deplatformed, just the accusation. When they start saying that our churches are racist,

Speaker 2 they're going to make that case, and we're in deep trouble.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 this is what you see in this chart

Speaker 6 from the National Museum of African American History.

Speaker 6 Again, part of the Smithsonian. They're defining whiteness.

Speaker 6 And if you remember last time, I ran you through that, that list of definitions, whiteness, white supremacy, white privilege, and then white fragility, and how all of that sort of works together, you know, and puts you on a path to anti-racism.

Speaker 6 Well, now we see what people, and this is a serious thing. This is not a joke.
They are seriously defining white culture as things like rugged individualism and family structure,

Speaker 6 emphasis on the scientific method, the Protestant work

Speaker 6 in religion, you know, Christianity as the norm, Judeo-Christian heritage as the norm, a future orientation, planning for the future, delayed gratification,

Speaker 6 you know, progress is always best,

Speaker 6 time,

Speaker 6 viewing time as a commodity, you know, like there's a limited amount of it or something,

Speaker 6 you know, aesthetics, holidays. Then there's this idea of justice,

Speaker 6 you know, based on the English common law, protect property and entitlements.

Speaker 6 Intent counts in the law.

Speaker 6 That's white.

Speaker 6 And I don't know if you realized that that was white, but

Speaker 2 that's white.

Speaker 2 Toti, I have to tell you, if this were printed by the Klan,

Speaker 2 I would say it's one of the most racist things I've ever seen. But this is printed by the United States government and the African American Museum of the Smithsonian.
Yes. And it's incredibly racist.

Speaker 6 Yes, it is. And not only is it racist, and again,

Speaker 6 as we've talked, I've said that, you know, what we're seeing is more racist than anything that people are

Speaker 6 complaining about.

Speaker 6 I mean, talk about white supremacy. The idea that black people have no personal agency.
and can't help themselves and need white saviors.

Speaker 6 These are racist ideas. But again,

Speaker 6 that's horrible.

Speaker 6 But now we're talking about biblical Christianity. And so what I did was I just ran through these.
And in my head, I did it immediately.

Speaker 6 When I first saw the story, as I went through these things, I'm just immediately going, okay, I could see a Bible verse for that, that, that, that, that, that. You know, these are.

Speaker 2 So let's go through this. Hang on.

Speaker 2 Let's go through this because Christians have got to wake up. Jews have got to wake up.
What's happening is

Speaker 2 the real target here

Speaker 2 is not just the Western way of life, but what created the Western way of life.

Speaker 2 All of the values and the principles and the things that we know to be true that come from the Bible and come from the Judeo-Christian traditions.

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Speaker 2 Pat, did you happen to see the video from

Speaker 2 Great Britain? It was BBC or one of the other channels over there

Speaker 2 that did an interview with the Chinese ambassador to Great Britain. And they played a video that's been circulating the internet, and China won't answer what's going on here.
Did you see this?

Speaker 2 I haven't. No.

Speaker 2 Watch this video. It's a drone footage,

Speaker 2 and it's a drone flying over a train station.

Speaker 2 And it shows hundreds of men who have been zip-tied with their hands behind their back. They're kneeling on the ground, their heads heads are shaved.
And they're all wearing blindfolds.

Speaker 2 And each of them is escorted by two police officers. And they're being loaded onto trains.

Speaker 2 And nobody knows what happened to them. Nobody knows what's going on.
Listen to this conversation

Speaker 2 from

Speaker 2 Great Britain television as they ask the ambassador to China or the Chinese ambassador to Great Britain, what the hell is going on? And this is not the first time he's been asked this. Listen.

Speaker 7 Let's look at some very disturbing drone footage that's been widely shared around the world.

Speaker 7 This is almost certainly over northern China, over Xinjiang. Can you tell us what is happening here? I cannot see,

Speaker 7 you know, this severely. This is not the first time.
You show me. I still remember last year, you show me what is happening in Xinjiang.
In Xinjiang, exactly. Let me tell you this.

Speaker 7 Xinjiang, have you been to Xinjiang yourself? No, I never have. You know, Xinjiang is regarded as the most beautiful place in Xinjiang.
There's a Chinese saying,

Speaker 7 you do not know how big China is. Ambassador,

Speaker 7 that is not beautiful coverage, however, is it? You know, Xinjiang, that is exactly what I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 7 Since 1990, Xinjiang has completely changed because there's a thousands of terrorist attacks. People cannot...
No, that was 10 years ago.

Speaker 7 Can I ask you why people are kneeling blindfolded and shaven and being led to trains in modern China?

Speaker 7 What is going on there?

Speaker 7 I do not know where you get this videotape. You know, sometimes you have a

Speaker 7 transfer of prisons and prisoners, you know, in any country.

Speaker 7 But just what is happening here, Ambassador? I do not know where did you get this videotape.

Speaker 7 These have been going around the world. They've been authenticated by Western intelligence agencies and by Australian experts who say these are Ouija people.
Let me

Speaker 7 train.

Speaker 7 Let me tell you this. The

Speaker 7 so-called Western intelligence keeping up make this a false accusation against China. They said one million of Uyghurs has been persecuted.
You know how big, how many population Xinjiang has?

Speaker 7 It's just about 40 years ago, it's a four, five million. Now it's 11 million people.
And people say, you know, we impose, we have ethnic cleansing, but the population has doubled in the 40 years.

Speaker 7 I'm so sorry to interrupt, but according to your own local government statistics, the population growth in Uyghur jurisdictions in that area has fallen by 84% between 2015 and 2018. 84%.

Speaker 7 That's not right.

Speaker 7 I gave you an official figure. You asked me, I gave you this figure as a Chinese ambassador.
This is a very author figure. In the past 40 years, the Uyghur population increased,

Speaker 7 the population in Xinjiang increased to double. The population doubled.
So there's no so-called restriction of the population. There's no so-called forced

Speaker 2 abortion and so on.

Speaker 2 Do you notice what he just said?

Speaker 2 The population of Xinjiang doubled in the last 40 years.

Speaker 2 He was pointed out that the

Speaker 2 Uyghur population in a three-year period

Speaker 2 was reduced somehow by 85%.

Speaker 2 He said that's not true. The population, and he clarified, he started going down with the Uyghurs and he knew it was wrong.
And so he clarified.

Speaker 2 No, no, the population, I'm telling you, the population of Xinjiang in the last 40 years has doubled. Yes, it could.

Speaker 2 And the Uyghurs have been wiped out. What's happening to them?

Speaker 2 This is incredible. Really is.

Speaker 2 Really is. And, you know, China is so closed off, it's hard to know the truth of anything that's going on there from the pandemic to what's happening here.
But

Speaker 2 it sure looks like there's an ethnic cleansing going on.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, with Germany, I was watching this video, and I thought, if we had the Germans

Speaker 2 on film

Speaker 2 taking people

Speaker 2 onto trains like that,

Speaker 2 and we knew that they had built these concentration camps, we knew what was going on, and we had witnesses

Speaker 2 that got out of those concentration camps and then got out of China. I don't know if we would have been as silent back then.
Maybe we would have. Maybe we would have.
But we didn't have,

Speaker 2 according to, you know, the press at the time, et cetera, et cetera, we had no hard evidence of pictures or anything else. We have a film of it going on.

Speaker 2 And nobody says anything?

Speaker 2 Yeah. And where's, you know,

Speaker 2 I don't, any Muslim organization talking about this. I don't hear anybody talking about it.
I don't hear any complaining or accusing. Do you know why? Do you know why?

Speaker 2 Pakistan won't do it because they have the Silk Road. They're getting too much from China.

Speaker 2 And so Pakistan, a Muslim country, has actually sold their own people down the river in China and said, no, there's nothing going on.

Speaker 2 They assure us that nothing's going on because they're getting so much money and trade from China. And China has said, you got a problem with this.
You got a problem with us. And we're not helping.

Speaker 2 And what happened to all of the cries after World War II?

Speaker 2 Ever since.

Speaker 2 Never again. Never again.
And then we continued to allow it to happen over and over and over again. And we don't even discuss it.
Well,

Speaker 2 the question is, what are you going to do about it?

Speaker 2 That is a good question. That's where people run.
No, but it's not. There are organizations that are aiding Christians and religious minorities to get out of China.
I mean,

Speaker 2 it doesn't seem unreasonable to try to help and support those organizations that are getting people out.

Speaker 2 The Chinese Christians are in not as dire of a state because they're just rounding all these Uyghurs up in one in the Xinjiang area, which is where they all are. They're just wiping them out.

Speaker 2 But they are doing the same thing slowly all across China to churches.

Speaker 2 And the Catholic Church, the Pope just sold them out.

Speaker 2 He just sold them out like two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 And didn't it sound like the ambassador was almost justifying it by saying that they had a lot of terrorist attacks 10 years ago in that area.

Speaker 2 He's almost

Speaker 2 justifying what's happening that, yeah, yeah, they are being loaded onto a train and taken to a concentration camp, but hey, I mean, they had it coming.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 They've been saying that for a long time, that the Uyghurs, and they may be trouble, but you don't ethnically cleanse them.

Speaker 2 I mean, you put the bad guys in prison. You don't ethnically cleanse.

Speaker 2 It's insanity what we are bitching about

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 doing nothing about really important things while taking on rice krispies, soap, cream of wheat, and Aunt Jemima.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 we are.

Speaker 2 You know, I was thinking, Pat,

Speaker 2 you know, in the end of days, there's the great whore

Speaker 2 of the earth.

Speaker 2 And I'm beginning to wonder if that's the reason why we're not in the book of Revelation is because we're the great whore of the earth.

Speaker 2 I mean, we've had it all, we've had absolutely everything. We've had freedom, we've had resources,

Speaker 2 we were given all of these things from God. And what did we do? We prostituted them,

Speaker 2 we sold out in every way and then got the rest of the world to sell out too because they wanted our lifestyle. And

Speaker 2 really,

Speaker 2 look at who we've become.

Speaker 2 We're apparently fine with all of this stuff. And 20 years after, 19 years after 9-11, these Marxists are doing what

Speaker 2 Osama bin Laden tried to do, and we all swore that it would never happen to us, not in our lifetime.

Speaker 2 And here we are, 19 years later, and we're dismantling it or allowing it, watching it happen in front of us.