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You're listening to the best of the Glenbeck program.

Welcome to the Glenbeck Program.

It's Friday, and we have the one and only Pat Gray, who I just want America to know I am going to chop his head off.

But as if I may quote the BLM leader,

I could mean that literally.

I could mean that figuratively.

I mean, it's a.

Well, which way do you mean it?

Because you're the one saying it, so you must know how to do it.

Don't know.

Don't know.

Don't know.

No, I don't.

It's up to your interpretation and ours.

It's up to you.

Yeah, it's up to your interpretation.

And I think that's great.

But I am going to cut your head off.

Anyway, Pat, welcome to the program.

Great to be here.

Thank you, Glenn.

I'm quite concerned.

I almost shouldn't come out of the house today because of the rampant COVID infection.

The record infections that are going on right now.

Wear a mask.

Stay indoors.

Don't go anywhere.

People are dying everywhere right now, and it's frightening to me.

And younger people are getting it right now.

I don't know where, because you know they didn't get it from the protests they were attending.

Jammed together with thousands of people.

No, those were good.

No, because they were fighting a bigger disease there.

So you can't get another disease when you're fighting a bigger one.

But

the bigger disease is the one that killed nine people last year, and the smaller disease is the one that killed 125,000.

Right.

Well, 125,000.

That's cute, Stu, that you're using that number.

That's adorable.

You would say 125,000 people is that number.

What do you mean?

Well, just listen to Joe Biden, and you tell me.

What people drastically underestimate is the impact on the mental health of people who now everything is complicated.

Not only is the health care piece, but people don't have a job.

People don't have anywhere to go.

They don't know what they're going to do.

And a lot of people you have unnecessarily, now we have over 120 million dead from COVID.

That's only crap.

Can I tell you something?

Can I tell you?

Wow, it's too many.

They are covering way too many.

That is.

Yeah.

I'm going to wear a mask.

Yes.

Now, may I say a couple of things.

May I say a couple of things?

And the first one is if you happen happen to be watching GBTV or Blaze TV right now, could you please put him back up on the screen?

I think

this is very risky of him.

He is obviously trying to reach out to the Republicans by wearing a fake Abraham Lincoln beard.

Or is that an Amish beard?

I thought he was going to churn butter after this little speech.

I don't know.

I think he's trying to make everyone believe he's Abraham Lincoln at this point.

That's great.

And

I think it's wonderful.

I think it's wonderful.

Although the masks are.

I like these people, too.

I love these people who wear masks and then just take them off.

They just start talking.

Yeah.

So I'll walk around you and I'll wear the mask, but the minute I have to talk to you, I got to take it down because it's just too damn hot.

And of course, it's

the talking thing that's spreading the droplets, right?

Like it's that's the whole point.

That's where you're really wearing.

Yeah, you don't need to necessarily wear when your mouth is closed and and you're breathing slowly through your nose.

If I may, that's why 120 million people have died.

That's true.

That's a great point.

That's a great point.

Can I tell you where,

you know, you're mocking this, but

120 million people have died, and you're right.

They didn't get it at the protests.

Do you know how many hair salons have been opened in just the last few weeks?

Oh, wow.

We should have arrested these people.

We should have thrown them in jail.

We should have burned their hairdressing,

well, the entire hairdressing community down to the ground because that's clearly where these kids

like to get their haircut.

Yes, they do.

They really do.

And,

you know, and they get their hair cut at where?

Salon.

Stu?

Pat?

Salon.

Exactly right.

Why we haven't arrested every barber and salon owner

in this country and put them into some sort of re-education camp is beyond me.

It really is.

We have arrested some of them and we did put some of them in jail, but I guess it wasn't enough.

Of course, it wasn't enough.

It's never enough.

It's never enough.

I mean, why we, I'm sorry, you know, I go for the, it's just the soft heart of mine that I say we should put them in re-education camps.

We should just shoot them.

I mean, if

we're being honest, they're bad people that will never get it.

Yeah.

And they were out protesting, and their protesting was directly causing lives to be lost.

That's a good question.

120 million.

That comes from

all of those gun-toting maniacs that just wanted to kill your grandmother, that were protesting in front of state capital saying, hey,

we want to open our business again because we have to feed our children.

Those people were so irresponsible.

I hope they're in a gulag or a work camp right now.

Uh, and then on top of it, the extraordinary danger that hairstylists present in our in our culture,

it's bad, it's bad.

May I tell you, I had to drive around piles of dead grandmothers on the way into work this morning.

That's how many people are dead.

Yeah, yeah, just from the just from

the hair salon usage,

yeah, hair salon.

Yeah.

Most of them had blue hair, which they had done at the salon, and there they were piled up dead.

I can't tell you.

So

you have to ask, Pat, you know, you feel pretty good about yourself right now,

but aren't you complicit?

Have you ever had a haircut?

I have.

Oh, my God.

I have.

You're right.

I need to be interested in that.

So your complicity in this is really...

is really grotesque and sickening.

Really?

It is.

You haven't had one since March, have you?

Yes.

Yes, I have.

Gosh.

How many millions are you responsible for?

If I'm to be honest, probably

four to five million of those people were at my hand.

Wow.

At my hand.

Just so you could just look a little bit better on television.

Is that what this is about for you?

Yeah.

Can I tell you, frankly?

Not that much, really.

Yeah, no, not really any better.

Not really any better.

So, yeah.

Stu,

could you please get me some sort of a garage door opener with a little loop on the end?

No, no.

So I can.

I'll have you know, that's a real noose, okay?

Now, it may not have been directed at anybody or anything, but it was a real noose, and it's it's a well

noose.

No, it wasn't like the stereotypical cowboy noose, you know, with the, it wasn't, I think it was just a loop, wasn't it?

It was just like, you know, so you could

you could grab that and and pull the garage door down.

Yes, it was, but that doesn't make it any less of a noose, Glenn.

It doesn't.

Well, no, it really does.

How would you define noose?

I would define it as thing that kills black people.

That's the only thing, not a knot with a loop on it that tightens as you pull it.

I would define it as a thing that kills black people.

It's the only use for a noose in modern history.

Well, I would describe, and I think you could look up the dictionary, look it up in the dictionary, and you could see.

I would describe a noose as something other than what was hanging from that garage door in an ASCAR.

That's how I would.

I mean, that wasn't

like, but that's like

a sense is like the nooses are used for other things.

Like, they act as if the only use has ever been lynching.

Yes, it's like saying rope.

It's like, well, I found a rope, and ropes are used in lynchings.

Well, ropes are also used for other things.

Like, it's the intent and the act that you use it for that matters if it's used to pull down a garage door, which it had been there for for at least since 2016.

We know that.

It was at least since 2016 there.

You know,

this guy is, you're now excusing everyone in the tugboat industry, and you're saying that

they're not racist for all of the rope that they use every day just as an intimidation.

That is a good summary of my position, yes.

Wow.

And you freely and ultimately admit it.

Yeah, no, I'm right on.

Wow.

It's okay.

No re-education camp.

As the gay character on the show, I can get away with things like that.

Oh, you're right.

You're right.

You're right.

Yeah.

And yet, Pat was laughing at it.

No, I wasn't.

Oh, gosh, those were tears.

Those were.

Yeah, I was crying.

I was.

I was crying.

I am absolutely right on that.

Well, thank you.

And let's just take a let's just take a

let's take eight hours and 45 minutes to pause for all of the deaths of the grandmothers grandmothers

that have passed away.

And I'm only setting that time because

that gives me time to not have to finish the show or do any actual work for the rest of the day.

Okay.

All right.

Enough.

All right.

Thank you very much, Pat.

Appreciate it.

No, no.

God bless.

Thank you.

No, no.

No, I'm serious.

I must have this.

I must install this.

No, no, no, please let me get this.

I must.

Thank you.

No.

I mean, okay.

No, well, you, I mean, if you want to pick it up and take the thank you, no, you go, you go ahead.

Because it's all yours.

No, no, no, no.

I don't want to take that very important.

All right, okay.

I must have it then.

All right.

No, you know what?

No.

I feel bad now.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Yes,

this is the city.

The city that NASCAR built with nothing but Confederate flags, nooses, and racists wherever you look.

Now somebody who says, oh no, it wasn't racist, comes along.

And it's my job to talk to him.

John Ziegler, senior columnist mediate.

John,

what'd you find?

That's fantastic, Glenn.

Well, you know.

Yeah,

when I drink just a little in the morning, it's easier to do the show.

Well, look,

I don't want to take too much credit for debunking the Bubble Wallace noose news controversy because generally speaking the only safer prediction than saying that a media news story will turn out not to be true is betting that Colin Powell is going to endorse the Democratic presidential nominee.

I mean history tells us that this is not much of a risk.

Right, right.

And what I think is most interesting from a conservative liberal standpoint on this, and I think Stu will probably back me up here, is that conservatives have a huge advantage in evaluating these stories because we've already read the ending of the book?

See, liberals don't read the end of the book on these stories.

We hear about them periodically, and then they go away.

But some people, almost always conservatives, decide, well, wait a minute, whatever happened with that one?

And invariably, they turn out not to be true.

Usually in hysterical contexts.

I mean,

bananas that are supposed to be racist that turn out just to be bananas.

You know, LeBron James.

Wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I've not heard that story.

Please tell me the bananas that were racist that turned out just to be bananas.

Oh, no, that was.

That just turned out to be bananas.

That was one of my favorites.

For some reason,

this happens in sports all the time.

The one I'm referring to was several years ago in a high school football game in New Jersey, northern New Jersey, by the way, hotbed of racism.

And, you know, there were two schools.

One was mostly black.

The other was not all white.

And the mostly black school found some bananas in their locker room and decided that that was, because they were the road team.

They decided that was racist.

This created a massive controversy.

It was turned out that the bananas were just bananas, but the home team was still admonished

because they should have not been that racially insensitive to leave bananas.

in the road locker room of a team that had a lot of black players.

Yeah, this is a whole genre of stories, John, which is like

the lesbian waitress who gets a, I don't believe in your lifestyle on a receipt.

You know, the Islamophobic receipt writer guy who, you know, writes some terrible message.

The person who writes like,

Heil Trump on a wall for some reason, it's supposed to be a Trump supporter.

We find out later it's just some college activist.

I mean, all of these stories turn out the same way over and over, and the media falls for it every time.

Can I just add one more quick look?

Because this is maybe my favorite.

Do you remember what happened at the University of Missouri a few years ago?

There was all sorts of chaos about

racial insensitivity, and one of the stories was that there was a swastika, a swastika that had been

depicted in a bathroom on the campus of the University of Missouri.

And when the picture finally came out, it was very clearly poop smeared on a wall by someone who was drunk.

That was all that happened.

I mean,

there was no swastika.

I mean,

it is an illness, and it has gotten into even celebrities.

I mean, how many people?

I don't even know if you're aware of this, Glenn.

This is one of the more amazing stories that have been dropped of all time.

LeBron James, biggest sports star, at least in basketball, if not in all of sports, a couple of years ago during the NBA championship, declared that his house in Brentwood, California, you know, O.J.

Simpson's former hometown,

that it had been depicted, it had been defaced with racist graffiti.

Racist graffiti in Brentwood.

And

bizarrely, there was

no suspect, no pictures.

The horrendous LATD never got to the bottom of this.

And then most bizarrely, after this horrendous investigation by the city of Los Angeles, LeBron James decides to go play where?

Los Angeles.

So, why in the world would he decide to play in a city that just allowed his Brentwood mansion to be defaced with racist graffiti and never get to the bottom of it?

How is that possible?

It's the cops.

It's the cops, and they're bad everywhere.

Where's he going to go?

Where's the man gonna go?

Right.

Oh, my.

So, when I first heard about this story, I was inherently skeptical, but you guys know me well enough to know I I want to find out, okay, what's the story here?

Is this possible?

I mean,

this seems highly improbable that in this atmosphere, incredibly racially charged, that, because this is what we're supposed to believe, if you use your freaking brain, you have to go through, okay, what does this actually mean?

If someone put a noose in a black man's garage,

have you heard about a pandemic?

Have you heard about how restricted things are?

Do you understand how few people would have access to a NASCAR garage just before a major race at Talladega?

This would be an act of colossal, I mean, colossal stupidity.

This would be effectively like going, you know, deciding you're going to rob a bank where you know you're going to get caught and you only take twenty dollars.

I mean, i it it's it's insane off the bat.

Now, people do insane things all the time.

So so it is possible if there's some evidence.

And and so uh uh like a suspect.

I mean this this would be incredibly easy to figure out, okay, we we think we we might have known who did this because there's a very limited number of people who had the opportunity to do so.

But instead, without any kind of a suspect, without a theory of how this would have happened or why this would have happened in a logical world, and at the time, without even a photograph, the news media decides, yep, this happened.

This happened, and it's got to be racist because, after all, it's NASCAR and it's Alabama, and we know about those people, right?

I mean, so they must be racist.

This is clearly very plausible in the world of the liberal media, and especially in the sports media.

I mean, ESPN is just the absolute worst on this, and they always fall for this stuff, no matter what it is, because they have to be woke, because they're a bunch of white males who are terrified for their own jobs.

That's really what's at the essence of this.

White males terrified of being canceled.

So they jump on whatever it is because they need to be on the right side of history and show how woke they are.

And they're one of the good ones.

And please don't take my job.

That's what's really motivating this.

Now, NASCAR NASCAR didn't help matters by throwing gasoline on the fire because they were terrified of being canceled too

and and then what's happened since though I've got to tell you I still have questions about because I'm more confused today than I was before we we eventually realized that the FBI declared this was not a hate crime that this was just a way of opening and closing a garage door but this this story has evolved in a way that is is frankly bizarre since then so I'm not 100% sure we're ever going to know what really happened, except this was not, shockingly, like almost all these other news stories, this was not a hate crime.

Okay, so I don't know what you're confused about, and I'd like to hear that, but I'm confused on why everyone keeps calling this loop a noose.

I mean,

I think you

put your finger.

You put your finger on an important point.

A noose means two things to two different groups of people.

A noose is an actual not.

Okay, let's be clear about that.

It's a legitimate knot.

Now,

it has become seen as a symbol of racial hatred because, and for understandable reasons, because of hangings of black men

in history.

So I understand that, but when you say the word noose,

that's a actual knot.

If you go to the Wikipedia page for noose, it's the description of a knot.

And yes, what appears to have been in Bubba Wallace's garage was a noose.

It was a noose knot that was was used to close the garage door.

Now, where I'm a little confused is that we now apparently know, and why in the world NASCAR puts out this picture after,

after the controversy is over, after the FBI has said, nope, this is not a hate crime, after Bubba Wallace has gone.

And this is to me the part, Glenn and Stew, that really gets me suspicious.

All right,

I'm not making an allegation right now, but I need an explanation.

So why does Bubba Wallace go on Don Lemon, who even Don Lemon was confused?

Now that that's unusual, but Don Lemon was very confused in the interview on Tuesday night on CNN, where Bubba Wallace is still sticking with the hate crime narrative, right?

And it was a bad interview, but people were rallying to his side, of course.

And liberal media is always going to, they don't want to look like they were idiots and they look like they were duped.

So there's no negative pressure on Bubba Wallace after that CNN interview, other than maybe from conservatives going, what the hell was that?

And then the next day, he puts out a statement, doesn't do an interview, puts out a statement totally changing his story.

Saying,

you know,

I'm a little embarrassed.

Thank goodness this wasn't a hate crime.

Thank you so much for the love.

Let's move on.

What I would like to know is what happened in between?

What forced that statement?

Because to me, there requires new information

to force that statement.

You see where I'm going with this?

I don't know what the explanation is.

I need an explanation, especially when then they put out this photo of this noose.

And I still don't understand the timeline.

I still don't understand

when for sure that quote-unquote noose was put there because the photos don't seem to match where this was in October of 2019.

And, you know, a lot of Wallace's supporters and the race baiters have been saying, well, see, this really was a noose.

There was only one noose on the entire, in all the 1,600 or whatever it is, garages at Talladega.

And I go, okay, that's a hell of a coincidence.

That's actually too much of a coincidence, especially when you have Wallace changing his story so dramatically.

And I would really like to know what piece of information made him decide, you know what, I'm with this.

What do you speculate?

What do you speculate?

Who put the damn news there?

This shouldn't be that difficult to find out at this point.

It's the most famous news in NASCAR history.

There's not that many people with access to

these areas.

I am suggesting it is possible.

I am not.

I have been in the category of this is not Jesse Smollett, too.

As you guys know, I was way ahead of the curve on that story.

This is not Jesse Smollett.

And I'm not saying this is Jesse Smollett.

I'm saying it is is theoretically possible that Bubble Wallace got some information that maybe, I want to underline, maybe

the rope that was sort of a noose last year that appears to have been cut in photographs in June of this year got replaced by somebody on his team.

That's what I think is theoretically possible.

Theoretically possible.

But not meaning it as a noose.

Probably not.

I've always been in the misunderstanding category of this.

you know, the racist banana category of this.

The racist banana category.

But the most important part of this whole thing is it was clearly not, unless the FBI and now everybody else is in cahoots, including Wallace,

that this was clearly not a hate crime and that we need to stop overreacting to these things.

And the media is exposing themselves as people who just believe all white males, especially in the South, are inherently racist until proven otherwise.

And that's wrong.

Because that sends an incredibly, incredibly corrosive message.

All right, hang on.

Stu's got a question for you, but I got to take a break for one minute, and then we'll come back with John Ziegler.

Talking to John Ziegler of Mediaite.

John, another part of this that I find to be pretty interesting, because I would love to get the answer to the question you just asked as well.

It would be really interesting.

But I think there's a chance that this thing gets cut off somehow, and some hypersensitive crew member sees this noose and thinks someone's targeting his guy.

This escalates and escalates.

Everyone's on the same page.

Oh my gosh, racism.

It blows up into what I heard one sports host say was the greatest moment in sports history when people were walking, legitimately heard that quote of theirs as they're walking down the pit crew

before the race.

But like...

Well, I know I said to myself, do you believe in miracles?

When I saw that.

There you go.

There you go.

But I mean, a lot of people are targeting, saying Bubba Wallace is the issue here.

And you're right, he handled the Don Lemon thing very poorly.

But, you know, he's in the middle of an international racial controversy.

You can almost give him a little bit of a break, maybe.

The media, though, not asking basic skeptical questions about this from the moment it happened is inexcusable.

They've been burned by these stories hundreds of times, and they continue to go down the same path.

NASCAR.

They hate NASCAR.

They hate the South and they want this narrative.

Why would they ask a single question?

I agree with Glenn, but I still think it goes to the basic issue of what the motivation of, especially a white male sportscaster, is.

Keep my gig at all costs.

So when you're deciding, okay, what position do I take on something like this?

Do I take the rational one, the skeptical one that might be based in truth, which, by the way, leads to a path where there's a a darn good chance I get fired, especially if I turn out to be wrong.

Or do I go along with the herd?

And do I go with the safety of the herd?

And we see this all the time now.

The herd provides protection for these people in the media.

No one will go outside the herd because they're all terrified of getting run over.

Frankly, no one wants to beat John Ziggler.

And I understand that.

Trust me.

I fully understand that.

But this is not conducive conducive to truth-telling because the herd provides a group mentality and no one asks questions like you just did, Stu.

And the herd is going over the cliff.

John Ziegler, thank you so much.

Zygmunt Freud, you can follow him on Twitter or free speechbroadcasting.com.

Back in a minute.

This

is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Yesterday on this program, I had really a legend, Bob Woodson.

He is the founder and president of the Woodson Center.

In 1981,

he was one of the first guys to go into low-income neighborhoods and address the problems of communities.

Former civil rights activists, headed the National Urban League Department of Criminal Justice, been a resident at the American Enterprise Foundation for Public Policy Research.

A lot of people refer to him as the godfather of the neighborhood empowerment movement, and he has had a special concern for the problems of the youth

and the problems that really affect the urban centers of America.

Welcome to the program, Bob.

How are you?

Oh, great to be here again.

Great to be here.

I'm glad to have you.

Bob, you wrote something.

This was

in the Hill

a year ago.

You wrote, as we mark the first anniversary of the violent protests and counterprotests in Charlottesville, Virginia, that resulted in the deaths of a woman and two police officers, we're in no better place

with respect to race and injustice in our country.

The issue of race is being used as a political weapon on both sides and is fueling the growing divide that threatens to descend us into tribalism.

The same forces involved in Charlottesville riots are angling for a rematch in D.C.

We have fascists on the right who claim to represent disaffected white people.

We have anarchists on the left who purport to speak for the marginalized minorities and the poor.

They are ready themselves to battle it out again with the only outcome of being more racial strife and calls to remove the symbols of southern resistance by taking down statues of generals and renaming schools and streets, trying to right the wrongs of the past by killing the dead.

That was last year.

How do you feel today, Bob?

I feel that it has really gotten worse.

As I said, that

it's troubling that,

as you said, all that money is being funneled into groups whose sole purpose is really to destroy civil society.

And I think they're Marxist.

But what's really troubling is, again, low-income black communities are being really exploited,

and yet the civil rights leaders, including members of the black caucus, are just silent.

You don't hear about them.

And so it is very troubling.

But again, the people who are going to suffer most are the very people that Black Lives Matter said they're trying to promote social justice.

And they're also assigning responsibility.

They're using the failed

policies of the last 50 years.

Poor blacks have suffered because of the policies of the last 50 years, but now they're assigning responsibility to institutional racism, which means that we don't have to examine what were those black politicians doing for the last 50 years who have been running these programs in these cities.

and spending the bulk of that $22 trillion that have been spent.

If you look, Glenn, at the income gap, gap, the biggest income gap in America isn't between black and whites, it's between low-income blacks and upper-income blacks.

And so if racism were the single culprit, the question is, why aren't all blacks suffering equally?

And so we have an unfortunate situation that poor blacks are suffering not from institutional racism, but institutional betrayal by those that they were trusted to put in office.

I was a member of

that, you know, I was in the civil rights movement, and we fought.

We are saying, give us a chance to run these programs in these cities, and we will do right by our own people.

And, like they said, when we went in to clean up that cesspool, as soon as they got honored, it became a hot tub.

And so, we have an unfortunate situation where we've commoditized the poor, and so they are a commodity.

That's why they're stepped on the way you are.

So, Bob, did this,

for instance, Black Lives Matter at the top of all of these that are really funding and doing all the legwork, it appears it's a lot of white people.

Is this coming from the

African-American community, or is this coming from

a group of white Marxists who are just seizing an opportunity and using

the black community yet again in a despicable way?

They are really using them.

In fact, the first two days in most of these cities of protest against

Floyd, George Floyd, they were peaceful.

These are young people.

They've been housed for months and they came out to protest.

But then what happened is that in most cases, people came in from our town, and then as soon as it got dark, they began to break windows.

And in fact, they exploited the passion of these young people.

And it was primarily white people.

You have instances where a well-dressed white couple drove into the community in the back of their car that had bricks.

But it was a neighborhood-level black woman who cussed them out and forced them to leave and flee.

And there are hundreds of these indigenous leaders who are indignant about the destruction of their own community, but they don't have a voice.

And so 1776, we're trying to give a voice to those blacks who are voices of dissent in these communities, Glenn.

And they're there, but

the only attention goes to those white

supposed to be supporters.

If you look at what institutions are flying flying Black Lives Matter, they're not black churches in black communities.

They're white churches flying the black lives.

Just ride around in any city, you will see Black Lives Matter slaggers on white churches, not on black churches.

So, Bob,

let me stay on Black Lives Matter for just a second.

And then I want to come back to 1776 and the voices that you are gathering.

Black Lives Matter, the founder of BET said yesterday, and this is a prediction of mine, that they are going to become a political party.

And yesterday, the founder of BET came out and said, we should get rid of the Democratic Party, we should get out of that, and there should be a black party.

And, you know, BLM is probably

the best solution for that.

This to me seems like

the biggest con

of all time.

You're going from one party that just has abused you, used you, and lied to you, now to another one that is even worse for your community.

And I don't think it's going to sell.

Well, first of all, I know it won't.

You see, what Black Lives Matter did, it traded on the moral authority of the civil rights movement.

And the civil rights movement in Black America achieved an America against the odds because of the nuclear family, the strength of the family, and its Christian virtues and values.

And so

Black Lives Matter used that moral authority.

And then, what they shifted to define

fairness and justice to now shift it to so that it is even hostile to

black values.

It is not pro-family.

It defines the nuclear family as Eurocentric and therefore racist.

It defines the Christian religion as homophobic.

And so it is even hostile to the forces.

But during

the depression,

when the communists tried to make inroads into the black community, and they were unsuccessful because they were anti-God.

And I think that there are strong religious tenets in that community, and BLM will also fail

because of their hostility to values that are very critical to the survival of black Americas.

We're not too far from understanding what really delivered us from oppression.

And I think that Black Lives Matter underestimates that.

I think that is the best news I heard because I think the white community is a long way away from understanding what got us here in a good way.

Bob Woodson, we continue with you in just a second.

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So Bob Woodson is with us,

and I cannot urge you strongly enough to donate to the Woodson Center.

I want you to go to 1776unites.com.

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Yes, unites.com.

Go there and

donate.

These people are actually doing something in the black community that will actually matter and help heal us.

You said, Bob, those suffering the problem must be involved in the creation and implementation of the solution.

I believe that it is going to be the

African-American community that will save America in the end.

If we learn from the first civil rights

movement and a Martin Luther King appears, do you see those people on the horizon?

Do you see people who really love the country, understand the principles,

understand the problems, and

have the courage to stand in this atmosphere?

You know, people who have suffered directly the consequences of

their own misdeeds.

And when they recover from it, nothing is stronger than someone who's in recovery from a self-destructive condition.

And so, but there are the big sleeping giant in America are the thousands and millions of low-income blacks who know over the past 60 years that their condition has suffered under the in under the control of their own politicians.

These people are betrayers

and they're going to wake up and realize that they're being exploited and used.

And so what we've been doing is going around and demonstrating to people that their destiny is determined by decisions that they make.

not by decisions that are outside.

And in fact, there's nothing more injurious to people

when you

convey the notion that they don't have control of their own destiny, that somehow white Americans

are in your future.

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