Tragedy in Atlanta, Division in CHAZ | Guest: Dinesh D’Souza | 6/15/20

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The death of Rayshard Brooks at the hands of Atlanta police had nothing to do with race. Glenn reviews what truly makes this case tragic. CNN learned that the mob isn’t on its side when rioters broke a crew's camera. The citizens of CHAZ have started paying reparations. The Supreme Court rules that it’s illegal to fire someone solely for being gay or trans. A New Hampshire state senator argues that only educated parents should be able to choose their kids’ schooling. Filmmaker and author of “United States of Socialism” Dinesh D’Souza joins to discuss the rise of “identity socialism” and how President Trump is leading the fight against it. BlazeTV’s Elijah Schaffer joins from Seattle to describe what life in CHAZ is really like.
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This is the Glen Beck program.

Hello, America, and welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Hang on just a second.

I got could you just call the studio, please?

Talk to them.

Welcome to the program.

We're glad you're here.

It is Monday.

We're live from the Standing Rock Ranch, and there is a lot,

a lot going on.

Let's start with Atlanta.

First of all, if you listen to Stacey Abrams, here's what she had to say.

Activists are necessarily calling into question what's actually being done.

And what I would say is that there is...

There is a legitimacy to this anger.

There's a legitimacy to this outrage.

A man was murdered because he was asleep in a drive-through.

And we know that this is not an isolated occurrence.

We also know that a man taking a taser from a police officer in Pennsylvania resulted in his arrest.

But because this person was black, it resulted in his death.

Those are conversations that have to be had not only through speeches, but through the decisions made by budget allocations.

And I think that's the next conversation we have to have.

Stacy says that

this gentleman, who I've watched the video of, and I feel,

I mean, strangely

bad for everybody involved in this one.

But she says that Rashard Brooks died because he was asleep at a Wendy's.

No, that's not why he died.

He didn't die because he was asleep at a Wendy's.

He was asleep and drunk,

intoxicated.

at a Wendy's.

But that's not why he died either.

He was drunk.

He was asleep at a Wendy's.

It took the police officer about, I don't know, 30 seconds to rouse him.

And then he was a little incoherent.

Then he was a delightful person.

He pulled his car over and he was a really nice guy.

He seemed great.

Didn't seem like a problem.

Talked about his mother.

He said he was visiting his mom's grave earlier.

It was, you know, her anniversary of her death, I think.

It was his daughter's birthday a couple of days before.

and the police were really good to him, nice, very polite.

Everything was going fine.

He agreed to take a breathalyzer because he

smelled of alcohol and was

legally drunk.

He passed the sobriety test when he walked the line.

At least it looked like it to me.

Then the police officer who was called in to investigate for sobriety came in and said, Look, you don't have to take this breathalyzer, but I'm asking you if you will.

He said, Fine, I'll take it.

So he took it.

He failed.

He's then put under arrest.

And

when they put the handcuffs on him or try to, he begins to resist arrest.

This is why he's dead today.

I don't know if this is something that maybe I was just taught and others just kind of missed this lesson, but don't resist arrest.

If they are arresting you, you're going to have to go to jail and you will sort it out.

You'll make your phone call and you'll sort it out.

If you are resisting arrest, chances are something bad is going to happen.

Am I the only one that was taught this?

Something bad is going to happen.

So

what happens?

Well, he resists arrest and they keep saying him to him, stop fighting, stop resisting, stop, stop.

Now they're on top of him, two of them.

I don't know how this guy

bested the two of them, but he did.

And as he's rolling over and on top of him, he grabs the stun gun

and he takes it away from the officer.

The officer immediately says, he has my taser.

He starts to run.

The other cop is running after him.

Rashad turns around and shoots the taser at the cop.

All right, well, now you're in a whole different ballgame.

Now you're not only resisting arrest, but you are now

trying to take down another cop.

Yes, it is with a taser.

That cop goes down and he says, he's got my taser.

That's when the other cop draws his gun and shoots, which I would imagine is standard procedure for somebody who has a weapon, a police officer's weapon, because you don't know what's going to happen.

When one officer is down, the fear is if an officer is down, somehow or another, he'll go down and grab the gun of the police officer, and then the other officer is done.

There was no reason for this to happen.

Absolutely no reason for this to happen.

This guy was drunk.

You roll the dice when you're drunk driving.

I don't, I mean, you roll the dice with your life and everybody else's life as well.

But you also roll the dice that you're going to be stopped and you're going to be arrested.

Don't drive drunk.

How is it that everybody is upset about this, but

where's the mothers against drunk driving?

Here's a guy who is driving drunk.

Violation number one.

Violation number two, he resisted arrest.

Violation number three, he grabbed the officer's stun gun.

Violation number four, he fired it at an officer.

What are you going to do?

What are you going to do?

He shot him in the back.

Yeah, he did, which I don't like.

But if you watch the video, it all went down from the time he has the stun gun to the time he's down is what, three seconds?

From the time the officer goes down to the time that Rashad is shot is about a second.

Now I can sit here in my studio and I'm in the comfort of air conditioning and it's beautiful, and I'm not panicked.

I watch the video, and I think, well, I don't know if I would have done it.

Well, I don't know if I would have done that.

I don't think I would have.

I don't know,

and I don't think I would have.

I wasn't the one with adrenaline pumping.

I wasn't the one that was in the situation.

I wasn't the one who had my life at stake and my fellow officers' life at stake.

I don't know.

See, this is the problem.

We have so convinced ourselves that we are just horrible human beings, that we're just a horrible nation, and we have horrible cops.

And it's not unusual.

This is normal.

This is normal.

You've been told you have been bad for the last, what, 12 years?

You've been told at least for 12 years over and over and over again, your country sucks.

You're racist.

You're a sexist.

You're a misogynist.

You're a homophobe.

You're a killer.

And the whole time, you've been saying, no, I'm not.

No, I'm not.

We don't profess who we are enough.

I don't want to get all California hippie on you, but my father was

a practitioner

of

my father was a practitioner of something called

the Church of Religious Science.

And it wasn't, it's not Christian science.

It's actual science science.

And

they look at God.

And my father said to me once,

I said, can we talk about God for a second, Dad?

I want to understand what you believe.

And he said, sure, but the first thing we have to do is not use the word God.

And I said, what?

What kind of dope-smoking hippie kind of, what are you talking about?

And he said,

the word itself, he said, I believe in God, but the word itself has too many connotations.

It has too many of your own personal beliefs wrapped around that word.

He said, so if we really want to understand it, we have to start on neutral territory.

And so he said, what's first cause?

I don't, what would you talk about?

He said, what is Big Bang may have happened, may not have happened, but if it did,

what lit the fuse?

What

who put the fuse there?

Who made the matches?

That's God.

That's when you're talking first cause.

That's the unknown.

That's God.

Okay, okay.

The idea behind his philosophy was the great I am.

And the great I am is

the name of God.

I am that I am.

That's what the burning bush told Moses.

Who shall I say, send me?

I am that I am.

I am are the two most powerful words ever spoken because that's how God creates.

He speaks and it becomes.

And don't take the Lord thy God's name in vain.

I don't think that means don't swear.

I think that his name is I am.

Look in your scriptures.

They're always capitalized and they're in red.

I am.

I am what?

Understand that the brain doesn't process negatives to everything that is creative in your brain.

It's just create.

It just creates.

It doesn't decide what's good or bad.

You might,

but the brain doesn't.

The mind doesn't.

It just creates.

So if you're saying, I am not a racist,

we are not a racist country.

I am not these things.

It doesn't do anything but build the defense of, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

What are you?

What are you?

I am a good person.

I am an open person.

I am a person looking for unity.

I am a person that

really loves everybody until they give me a chance to hate them.

I used to be a person that hated everybody unless you gave me a reason to love you.

Now I, I, and you know this if you've listened to me for a long time, I'm a sucker for people because I see the best in them.

I want to believe they're going to be that person

and they you know most times are not unfortunately none of us are how many of us are the best person every time

we've been told over and over again what a bad country we are what a what a horrible group of people we're being told over and over that our cops are racist our cops are not racist our cops are heroes our cops are the ones after 9-11 that we went and we shook the hands of.

Every time we saw a police officer, we said, thank you.

Every time,

every time there is a problem in this nation, the police are the ones who we end up saying, gosh, you're a hero.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And somehow or another,

It feels as though the majority of people in this country

are saying and questioning the cops.

Are they bad?

Are there bad cops?

Yes, there are.

Yes, there are.

Is this guy in Atlanta a bad cop?

I don't know.

I know every time I see one of these shootings, and this is different than Minneapolis.

Every time I see it, I think to myself, God help me, I wouldn't want to make that decision.

I don't know.

Was that procedure?

I don't know.

I wasn't a cop.

I'm not a cop.

I wasn't trained.

Do you want to make these decisions for the cops?

Did you see, if you watch the footage of the body cam, and don't, you don't have an opinion on this unless you've watched the footage.

You might think you do, but unless people say to you, oh, I've watched the whole thing, did you?

You watched all of it.

This is like three and a half minutes.

Edit it down.

It's like three and a half minutes.

Did you watch all of the three and a half minutes?

Okay, then let's talk about it.

You don't have an opinion until you've watched the video.

And then when you've watched the video, you're going to end up liking both sides.

You're going to like

Rashad.

And you're going to like the officer that first woke him up.

You're going to like him.

And then it turns.

What I thought out of this video was: can you imagine being a cop?

There was no indication, zero indication that this guy was going to be a problem.

Zero.

He was totally cool.

He was really a nice guy.

And then all of a sudden, he just something flipped and he changed.

I don't know.

Where do we go from here?

I know.

let's burn down a Wendy's, but

let's get the milkshakes out first.

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Hello from the Standing Rock Ranch in God's Country up in Idaho.

Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

We're glad that you're here today.

Thank you so much for listening.

You know, one of the things I really thought about this weekend

as I was getting ready for our July 4th

program.

It's going to actually happen now on July 2nd.

I think we've locked this in now.

July 2nd is when this is happening.

It's Thursday

of the holiday weekend.

It'll be happening Thursday night.

And we're going to be live in Plymouth, Massachusetts.

I think we're going to be in New York City unless it's locked down.

I think we're going to be in Philadelphia unless it's locked down.

And live from the ranch.

And we're going to be talking about the American Covenant.

And the American Covenant is something that was made by individuals.

And

it's not about church and state.

It's not about about having the church involved.

It's about having

good people

recognize their role in a free society.

If we are not a good, well-regulated people,

we're not going to be able.

We can't have this system.

This system was designed for people who self-regulate.

It's not designed for a police state.

It breaks down.

It's not designed for a people

that

want the worst things for themselves, for their families.

And when I say the worst things,

I mean the free market will choke us to death if we continue down this road of just being

self-centered

and

instant gratification people.

So there was a covenant made by our pilgrims.

There was a covenant made by George Washington.

Then the covenant again was made just before Gettysburg.

And

every time it has changed us, and all it is, is a reminder of who's in charge.

And

as I am

working this weekend here up in the mountains,

there is something about this land that I think we have been disconnected from.

There is something about

a belief in our country that we have been disconnected from.

Our history, we have been disconnected.

And so when you lose who you are, when you lose where we are

and why we are here

and what made us prosperous, what made our country really, truly great,

you don't have anything left.

There's a lot of work to be done for freedom.

There's a lot of work to be done.

You know, I see people talking about Black Lives Matter.

Yes, Black Lives Matter.

Let's just say Black Lives Matter.

Forget the all-lives matter thing.

Just Black Lives Matter.

Do you know how many slaves there are today?

Today.

Today,

there are 40 million slaves worldwide.

40 million.

Over the 400-year history of slavery and the slave trade.

At that time,

there were 12 million slaves spread out over the 400-year history.

12.

There are 40 today.

One thing we can unite on, slavery sucks.

It's bad, and we should stop it.

Why can't we stop?

You know, there's a reason why your windshield is so big and the rear view mirror is so small.

We have flipped those and we gotta stop.

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Pat Gray is joining us now from the Pat Gray Radio Roundup with his cowboy orchestra, and

we're glad that he's here.

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Wow.

Hello, Pat.

How are you?

Hello, Glenn.

I'm good.

I'm I'm really good.

Good, good, good.

I'm really good.

Hey,

I've got a question, and Pat, I need your help on this one

because

I don't know if you saw SpongeBob SquarePants has been declared gay by the creators now.

Yeah, yeah, I did see that.

So he's gay.

He's officially out,

and he is officially gay.

SpongeBob SquarePants.

Does he

have genitals?

Not that I've seen.

I've never, I mean, he has a butt.

They've revealed that in several episodes.

I've never actually seen it, they don't seem to indicate that he has genitals at all.

It Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter.

It's what he feels he is.

Oh, okay.

Gotcha.

So,

anyway, so SpongeBob SquarePants.

And so I think we are really, I mean, you know, HBO is doing, you know, they're canceling Gone with a Wind and everything else.

I think Stu needs to be our gay character.

I think we should announce that Stu is gay.

Okay.

He's married to a girl, but I mean, that's just a beard, obviously.

I can ask her if she wants to change her identification.

Okay.

You know, if we can change it.

If she could identify as a man, then I'll be gay.

Yeah.

All right.

I like that.

I like that.

Okay, good, good.

It'll protect us, too.

Okay.

Woo!

Now we're protected from the mob.

There's not going to be a problem now.

They'll be on our side.

As CNN found out this weekend, you know, you say enough nice things about the mob, and they're going to completely leave you alone.

Well, other than the emails they administer.

Other than those.

Well,

yeah, yeah.

You know, CNN is all worked up about they broke our camera.

They broke our camera.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have you seen what they've been doing to the streets?

All of a sudden, CNN is like, well, they may not be who we thought they were because they broke our camera.

Yeah.

You know, here's what's going to happen.

If these guys get control, they'll drag you in the middle of the streets and they'll beat you to death.

That's what's going to happen if they get control.

They don't like you, CNN.

Nobody likes you.

Nobody likes you.

Even when they're doing their bidding, they still don't like them, which is pretty amazing.

Pretty amazing.

Hey, you know, Nancy Pelosi, all these people are, they just all think that they're going to be totally fine, you know, playing with that.

ANAFA doesn't like you.

ANAFA doesn't want you.

No.

Oh, these people are so stupid.

The other thing that's

the Black Lives Matter situation that that everybody's jumping on that bandwagon now and nobody knows what the group.

You got to separate the principal.

And yes, of course, obviously, Black Lives Matter.

I don't know anybody who's ever said they don't.

I don't know anybody like that.

So yes.

David Duke.

Okay, maybe?

I don't know.

Has he even said that?

I don't know.

Woodrow Wilson.

Woodrow Wilson.

Yes, he did.

Okay.

But he's long gone.

Sanger, Margaret Sanger.

Okay, that's yes, another good one.

I can, I mean, I could, they're all Democrats, they seem, but I could continue, but I won't.

Go ahead.

But if you're to look at their website, you know they don't, they don't, I mean, like, BYU's football team went out and did this big

thing that seems to be, you know, the non-racist thing, which we all agree with.

But if you're talking about

blackly, you got to separate the Black Lives Matter principle from the Black Lives Matter group.

Because the Black Lives Matter group are a bunch of extreme left-wing ideologues who want illegal immigration.

They want illegals to be made citizens.

They want continued abortion on demand.

You're not hitting the big ones.

Yeah.

They want reparations.

They want their own separate nation.

They want an end to capitalism.

They want an end to the United States of America.

They're all about collective salvation.

That whole theme that was, you know, we've exposed is Marxist theology.

You've got to look into it, young people.

Please, by all that is holy, please, just look into it.

That's all I'm asking.

Before you just flame and sink or buy into it, it's asking to

ask you about it.

And this is a little bit of a radical thought, but I want to run it by you guys just to see.

As the gay character on this show, I think you have to listen to me.

We do.

Good, good.

What if, what if

you learn,

then protest.

What?

What if you were to learn about the topic?

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Then protest protest it.

What about those things in that order?

Learn about the topic.

Can I still talk?

Okay, wait, wait, wait.

Wait a minute.

Can I still take everything that I've learned out of context to protest?

Honestly, at this point, I'm willing to entertain that because it would be much better than what we have.

Like, there is this video that went around the other day.

What that is is CNN.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's CNN.

There was this video that went around the other day of this woman who, you know, the typical thing where you kind of, you know, there's the correspondent that goes into like a college college and people who are upset about a topic, you know, and we've seen this from like campus reform and

Ami Horowitz has done this a bunch of times.

I'm not sure of who did this particular one, but went into a bunch of people and said, hey, how many unarmed blacks are killed by police every year?

And of course, as you'd expect, as we would all know without even watching the video, the guesses are all in the thousands and tens of thousands.

And the real number is nine, not 9,000, not 900, but nine.

That's too many.

Well, I mean, again, many of those, by the way, were justified,

such as the guy who had previously had a shootout with police, a real shootout, then this time said he had a gun, was going to kill them.

The police killed him, and they realized afterwards, oh, he actually didn't have a gun this time.

That's an unarmed shooting of a black man that counts in that nine.

So

some of those are very, very justified.

However,

no one has an idea who is protesting what the actual situation is.

George Floyd is a really bad individual anecdotal piece of evidence in this debate.

He's also a person with individual liberties, and that's a real reason for us to be pissed off about this.

But they have absolutely no concept

of the issue in which they're protesting.

And it's like, I don't, how do you have a debate with someone who has no information about the topic?

It's like trying to debate sports with Glenn.

And then they tell you, when you say things like this, that you're the ignorant one.

Right, yeah.

Wait a minute.

Yeah, because we're we're supposed to basically take the feelings of it, right?

We're really upset.

Let me give you some names.

Trayvon Martin.

Michael.

Killed by police, by the way.

And some of them are real, and some of them are, well, they were assaulting cops at the time.

Some of them had nothing to do, as you point out with Trayvon Martin, with police or white people.

But it doesn't matter.

It's like, if I can take off six or seven names you remember from news stories, therefore I have a case to go burn down the Wendy's in the auto zone.

Well, that's a terrible point.

A terrible point.

And we will never get past it if we don't require any information out of the people who are protesting.

No information, no rational arguments.

Like, we have to get to a point where you're making a societal point based on information rather than an emotional one based on anecdotes.

And I don't think we can get there because the media doesn't require that when it comes to certain issues that they agree with.

It just may be that the key to peace right now are my wife's cookies.

Oh my gosh.

No kidding.

Because I was, I'm totally, that was me being happy coming in today.

You brought in these new chocolate peanut butter ones.

What are they called?

Is there any specific chocolate peanut butter?

Chocolate peanut butters?

Yeah.

I think they're freaking really good.

Gosh, they're good.

It's insanity.

I don't know what she does.

Pat sent me up a box of these things.

I am like,

I am rivaling.

I was in the store the other day, and I swear I heard somebody say, Is that a hippopotamus?

The cookies are fat-free, though.

I'm pretty sure that there's no calories.

I think so.

My gosh, Pat sent up a box of those

last week, and they are so

good.

I'm telling you, you need to move back to New York just because you can gouge the eyes out of liberals with those things.

They'll pay $10 a cookie.

They really will.

They'll pay $10.

I can guarantee you.

Yeah, they would.

I can guarantee you you could open up a cookie store with Jackie's cookies, and

they would sell in New York City for $10.

and you can get them though if you're not 12 if they were we're not on the street corner in New York but 12 if they were what yeah if they were 12 12 if you said we're almost out

I will say you could sell them for 18 15 if you said de Blasio hates these cookies I think he's gonna put us out of business I was gonna say you could do 18 if you if you promised to donate one dollar to Black Lives Matter for each cookie sold

for 15 a piece yeah I need to go 18 for that

just keep jacking it up so okay so wait a minute.

So, Pat,

you do have scruples, but you also have a price.

Exactly right.

That's okay.

Exactly right.

Good.

Okay, I'm glad to hear it.

One last thing.

One last thing.

I want to hear your take on

scrumptious cookie.

What?com.

Scrumptiouscookie.

Scrumptiouscookie.com.

I'm going to have to charge you for that now.

Okay.

All right.

The price was one box of cookies that you already received.

I was just going to say.

I paid in advance.

No.

No, that was a friend thing.

That was a friend thing.

This is business.

So, one last thing.

I just want to get your take on the cop in Atlanta.

Yeah.

You've watched the video.

You've watched the whole thing.

I mean, you have, yes.

From several angles.

Tell me your take.

Completely different than the George Floyd situation.

I mean, the guy was turning around and firing a taser at the guy.

I don't know.

You know, and people say, well, he's using deadly force against non-lethal force.

Well, once the cop is incapacitated, he can't control what happens to him.

He may be killed at that point.

That's why they use deadly force in those situations.

The guy was punching him in the face.

He fought them the whole time when they tried to cuff him.

It's a completely different situation.

And did you have any empathy for the cops at all?

I mean, I had empathy at the beginning because he was so nice.

Yeah.

At the beginning, he was so nice.

He was.

And so polite and everything else.

And I really liked him.

And so as I'm watching the beginning of the video, I'm like, oh my gosh, this guy, I mean, yes, he's drunk.

He's breaking the law.

He's drinking drunk.

Okay, we got all that.

But

he seems like a nice guy.

And then it turned out.

And then he turned so quickly.

So quickly.

And that's what I thought.

Good heavens, do you want to be a cop?

You don't know.

You know, you always hear cops are always, you know, right

behind the door when they approach so they can hide behind the car because

you don't know.

But they don't ever know.

That was a long interaction.

And if you would have stopped it right before the arrest and said to people, what's going to happen?

You'd say, I don't know,

the cops will probably take him in because he's drunk.

Before he blew the test, you might have said, I don't know, I think they're just going to let him go home.

I'm not sure if he's drunk, blah, blah, blah.

Then he blew the breathalyzer.

You're like, oh,

they're going to arrest him, but no big deal.

No one would have seen that coming.

No.

And it wasn't the cop's fault.

No.

I mean, I don't know how it escalated like that.

I don't know why it escalated like that.

He decided he didn't want to be arrested.

Yeah, I guess so.

I guess that's it, right?

He didn't want the cuffs on.

I mean, yeah.

What else was it?

What else was it?

I don't know.

It's such a strange.

You know, look,

all weekend, if you watched the golf tournament, the first golf tournament came back this weekend.

And all weekend, every time you came back,

they don't care about grandmothers.

They don't care about grandmothers.

They're going to kill my grandmother, who's been dead for about 30 years, but they're going to kill my grandmother.

Well, she died of COVID-19, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Wasn't she one of the first COVID digits?

Yeah.

She was.

She was in this country long before.

But they were running these.

commercials with prominent people coming back and saying, we should not live in a country where I have to give my children the talk about how they have to interact with police officers.

And there's a strange idea that black people are the only people who give their kids the talk about respecting police officers.

I mean, I know as a parent, I've given a version of that talk to my kid 50 times, which is 50 times.

Every time you see a police officer, you tell them, These people are out there protecting us.

You should always respect them.

They're doing everything they can to try to, they're risking their lives to protect us.

When you instill that impression to people from birth,

they have a lot less interactions where they start punching cops in the face.

White people give that talk all the time.

That's a talk that's not the talk she's talking about.

It is.

It's the one where you say, like, if you do something bad or if you are not perfect to an officer, you might get shot.

And so, but the version, I guess the white version of that talk is, make sure you don't do anything bad to a police officer.

Always respect them.

And if you do that, you're not likely not going to get shot.

That is still, it's all part of this.

It's still part of this.

It's the same

version of this.

It's a remix of the same conversation.

Let me take a quick break and then come back.

And I want to give you the flip on what I think that talk is from black Americans.

I don't know.

We're two white people, but at least you're gay.

Well, if I had maybe I'm already identifying as gay, I could identify as black too, and then and then I'd have authority, I think.

Yeah, then you could run the whole

whole state.

No.

Okay.

Really?

Yeah.

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I lived in Louisville, Kentucky, back in the 1980s, and I remember the first time I moved there,

and it was one of the first weekends, and they found Klan outfits in the trunk of a couple of officers' police car.

And I remember thinking, holy cow, if you're black, how would you ever open the door for a police officer to come in if you knew some of the officers were members of the Klan?

And that's where you and I differ on this stew, is I think there is a history there where black parents do say the same thing that we say to our kids, but they have the actual added caveat in some places of,

you know, there's a long history, so be careful with the police officers.

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Chaz, which I think is Cher's son, daughter.

I don't remember which, but I think that's her.

I think that's his name, her name.

I'm honestly not trying to be offensive.

Born a boy, turned a girl, born a girl, turned a boy.

Which one was it?

Born a girl, turned a boy, Stu?

Cher.

Why am I talking about Cher?

I have no idea.

Born a girl, I believe, changed to boy.

Because it's Chaz.

Well, I guess, yeah, again.

Well, Chaz, okay.

Now it's just the name of a new country, but back in the day, I believe it was a boy's name.

All right.

Well, they've begun reparations, Stu.

You'll be happy to know.

White members of

this new republic, and it's beautiful.

It's a summer of love, have been told Friday night that they have to start giving black people at least $10 before leaving the area.

So they're they're in the

they're there in like this park setting.

It's very very nice.

And I want you to find by the time you leave this area, I want you to give $10

to one African-American person from this autonomous zone.

And if you think that's difficult,

well, if you think it's hard to give $10 to people of color, to black people,

you'll have to think really, really critically about it in the future.

Are you going to actually give up your power and your land and capital when you have it?

If you have a hard time giving up $10, then you'll have to think again, are you really down with the movement?

Then he goes on to say, white people, I see you.

Find an African American.

I see you.

I see every one of you and I remember your faces.

Wow, that sounds like a threat, doesn't it?

Here he is actually giving the

actually giving the speech.

I think this is the leader of Chaz.

Listen.

Okay.

I want you to find by the end of, by the time you leave this autonomous zone, I want you to give $10

to one African-American person from this autonomous zone.

And if you find that's difficult, if you find it's hard for you to give $10

to people of color, to black people especially, you have to think really critically about in the future are you gonna actually give up power and land and capital when you have it if you're if you have a hard time giving up ten dollars you gotta think about are you really down with this struggle are you really down with the movement because if that is a challenge for you then I'm unsure if you're in the right place.

So find an African-American person.

The white people, I see you.

I see every single one of you.

And I remember your faces.

You find that African-American person and you give them $10.

Cash app, Venmo, $10 in your pocket.

That's my challenge to you.

Unreal.

Are you doing it, Stu?

Because I did it Friday.

I did it.

I think the solution to all racism is I'm just going to throw money at black people when they pass me.

If I think that's a good thing.

Just

throwing balled up bills will really solve the racism problem.

That's good for you.

Absolutely.

Fuck your way out of it.

It's, I mean,

wait until you see.

I mean, this is, these people are Marxists.

And do you notice he said, are you, if you can't give $10 now,

you're going to be able to give up your land and your capital?

No, I

bought that land.

How

dare you listen to this guy, Mr.

I own property.

This land is my land.

This land is your land, Glenn.

This is the autonomous zone.

There is no more property ownership.

There's no private property whatsoever.

You need to understand the new world we're in.

Yeah, by the way, this land is your land.

This land is my land.

This land was made for you and me.

That is a Marxist song.

I just want to let you know, written and performed by a Marxist.

So we also had a really interesting encounter with a street preacher.

He came in and he said that

this was a Christ zone as well.

And that didn't go over well.

Elijah Schaefer and his cameraman were there on the streets.

And here's what happened.

Listen.

I'm right with God.

You don't have to push yourself.

Is that a hug?

We had this around here.

Is this a hug?

Put your throat.

This is a hug, buddy.

This is a very forceful hug.

It's a love hug.

Lord, Jesus get me straight to the back.

Because it feels like to get hugged by a homosexual.

Glory to the king.

I'll kiss you on the face, buddy.

Glory to the king, eternal.

So they forcibly held him down and then they kissed him.

Then they threw him down to the ground.

And

somebody was kneeling on his back and his neck, and he said,

I can't breathe.

I can't breathe because it started to get really ugly.

Finally, somebody in some dreadlocks ran over and like, what are you guys doing?

Stop it.

But that's good.

You know, although

I think that's really been good.

And the Seattle residents love it.

Let me give you a view from a Seattle resident living in Capitol Hill where they are inside of Chaz.

Imagine this.

Listen to what this, and listen to

how emotional this Seattle resident gets about what's happening in Chaz.

Listen.

I'm scared.

Like, I've been scared every day since Sunday, and I haven't gotten a lot of sleep.

Because for the first time in my life in Capitol Hill, I hear gunshots every single night and I've heard people screaming every single night outside.

And

they're not protest screams.

I've heard protest screams, but I've also heard like screams of terror out there.

And I don't know what's happening out there.

And it's just that's rattling enough, just hearing the screams for the first time and not knowing what's going on.

Now, he goes on to say say

that

he called the state.

He talked about different things that he had seen going on

just from the windows from his house.

He said, I am terrified to go outside.

This appears to be a younger guy.

We blurred his face,

so you can't tell.

I think the Daily Caller did this interview.

But he appears to be a rather young guy

and

is afraid and says his government, he called the governor's office and said, you've got to stop this.

And the person said, you know, the governor's already spoken out on this.

And they said, look,

can I just talk to you as a human, please?

Human to human.

Let me just say,

I'm afraid here.

And he broke down and started to cry.

And he said, I don't, the person

at the Capitol, the Washington Capitol, said, Look, I don't want to make this personal.

And he said, but this is personal.

My government has abandoned me, and I am afraid for my life.

And you're not coming to help.

When there are no police and when the government is corrupt and in bed with those who are looting and stealing, who do you go to?

No one.

You either die fighting or you are

bending your knee.

So, which one's it going to be, America?

There is a development with the Supreme Court.

We want to just take a quick sidebar and

get this development.

Stu?

Yeah, Glenn, a decision just came down from the Supreme Court about a case involving Title VII.

Oh, boy.

Our argument was about gay and transgender rights.

The ruling comes down: an employer who fires an individual merely for being gay or transgender violates Title VII.

As we know, we have an extreme right-wing court who has now come out and come and decided this in this fashion.

A 6-3 ruling.

The liberals, of course,

on the sixth side, Roberts as well, and written by Gorsuch.

So

that is the ruling.

It was a 6-3.

There were several different dissenting opinions

followed by the other

justices, but this is a 6-3 ruling that says if you fire someone, it says solely, which, you know,

I mean, I don't think this is happening an awful lot, but it has been a very controversial thing.

And gay or transgender, it's interesting to see how that would play out in a situation where, you know,

someone changing from male to female in a role that was designed for a male in the middle of that, would you be able to change them to another job?

They would not be able to be fired based on this ruling, however.

So I'm not exactly sure how that goes,

but it's going to be

interesting for you all to watch.

I got news for you.

If Bert is my receptionist,

because I'm not a sexist, but then you have to ask yourself, yeah, but you hired a man.

I mean, was a woman not good enough for that job?

Oh, I know, I know.

It's a struggle.

But Bert is at the front desk, and he's like, hey,

welcome to Becks Burgers.

And

you're fine with Bert sounding like that.

And he comes in, and he's dependable and everything else.

But the next day, he comes in in a dress.

I'm Bertina.

And you'll be addressing me as Bettina.

And speaking of dress, what do you think?

Does this color match my eyeshadow?

And you would have to have a conversation with Bert or Bertina and say,

Bertina, some fundamental things have changed

and you now

are not the first face I want my customers to see.

That's hateful.

What are you saying I'm not lovely in a dress?

No, you're not lovely in a dress.

And you're kind of,

you're spooking.

the customers.

And that's great.

You can go do that someplace else where customers might expect

you to be or wouldn't be shocked.

But at our Christian bookstore here,

you're freaking people out.

I don't think there's a reason

to not side with

the business unless you're going to control every aspect of that business.

This is my reputation.

You're arguing for hatred is what you're doing.

And that would be normal.

No, denying.

They would say that, you know, what you, well, what you're saying is, oh, well, the transgender person at the front desk, that's not normal.

So therefore, you want to change it.

Well, it is.

Can we just say what is normal?

Let's define normal because I hate that word normal.

What is normal?

Normal is something that you would see all the time.

It would be natural.

It would be commonplace, okay?

It's commonplace.

It is not commonplace to see a guy in a dress.

It's just not commonplace.

Now, there are places where it is more common.

You know, the inner city is more is more common to see a lot of things.

You know, it's not commonplace in the urban city to see a cow.

Does that make cows bad?

No,

it just means it's out of place.

It's not normal for a cow to be wandering the streets of New York City.

How does this work the other day other way, Glenn?

Like, if you

New York City, there's a few famous places that are staffed completely by transgendered people who, or

cross-dressers and such, and that's part of that's the shtick of the restaurant, basically.

You go in there and everyone, everyone's.

Lucky changes.

Okay, sure.

If one of their workers decided they, you know what, this whole drag queen thing not working out for me anymore.

I'm going to go the other way.

Just go back to wearing a suit.

Would they be able to to be fired?

So I think in that case, yes,

because

you were specifically hired because you were

either transgender or transvestite.

But you can't specifically hire someone for not being a transgender or transvestvestite.

That's against the law.

So now.

Well,

if your store was, you know, we're not transgender.

You know, the restaurant

is.

I know, but

the shtick, I'm actually standing up for the transgender person here, I think.

I think I don't even know anymore.

I think you are, but I think you're missing that.

You can't have that restaurant.

It would be illegal.

You can't have the we're not transgender restaurant.

That is exactly what this is.

You can have it, but I know, but I'm saying you can have a I am trans, we are transvestite.

You could be transsexual.

Can you still?

You could.

well why why

see this is the problem with government getting involved if you want to have a all transvestite or no transvestite uh that's fine if you if you if you

if you don't understand that the change you're making is a big deal and your employer might say

I'm sorry, Susan, and I love you as Susan and I loved you as Fred, but I can't,

I don't want you representing my company.

Why?

Because you hate.

No, I don't.

I don't.

But I need every advantage that I can get.

And having somebody greeting our customers is not necessarily the best, smoothest transition for the mass population.

All right, back in just a second.

Boy, is that full of hate speech, isn't it?

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Let me

do we have the audio of the

New Hampshire Democratic senator

that was talking about educating their children.

I want you to listen to this.

It's kind of hard to hear what she's saying because this connection is really bad.

But I want you to hear this.

It was a conference call,

and she was speaking on behalf of a Senate bill that would repeal a law allowing the State Board of Education to create an alternative program for granting graduation credits, which became Learn Everywhere.

And

I want you to listen carefully to what she's saying.

Listen.

I think that this

idea of parental choice, you know, that's great.

The parent is well educated and has time to review the product.

There are some families that that's perfect for.

But to force that and to make it available to everyone,

you know, that kind of direct sale,

I just think people are asking for a huge amount of trouble.

Okay, stop here, stop here, stop here.

I want you to digest what she said because she's about to make a big revelation.

She said, for all parents, they don't, not all parents can make the decisions for their children.

So what does she mean, not all parents?

Wait until you hear who she thinks should not be included to be able to make decisions for their children because they're just not smart enough.

The Marxist takeover continues.

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Thank you so much for listening.

So, a few minutes ago, I was playing

Jean

Ditch.

She's a state senator in New Hampshire.

And she was giving comments

during a House Education Committee hearing meeting on Tuesday.

And she got up and she was speaking on behalf of a bill that would repeal a law allowing State Board of Education to create an alternative program for granting graduation credits, which was Learn Everywhere.

So parents could opt out and say, I want my kids learning over here, blah, blah, blah.

And she started to say, as we played a minute ago, that, you know, this is great.

This is great for the well-educated parent, but there are some families that's perfect.

To make it available to everyone?

No, I think you're asking for a huge amount of trouble, she said.

Now,

you have to remember that we are now into Marxism.

We're beyond progressivism.

I'm sure she would classify herself as a progressive, but the real goal is to have

Marxism.

And it allows you to classify people.

As Abraham Lincoln said, be careful if you're judging it on color.

Well, the person who's just a little lighter than you are will be able to enslave you.

Oh, you're basing it on intelligence.

Oh, they're not intelligent like you are.

Well, be careful because the next person with a higher IQ is going to come in and can enslave you.

So, this is the thing that they miss because there is no one smarter than they are.

So, she was asked: so, wait, is it your belief that only well-educated parents can make the decisions?

Listen to what she says here.

I would not recommend it.

I do think that, you know, those are wonderful,

and maybe we do a higher amount of them over on this side of the district.

I know people are, by the way.

But

I know that money is really the biggest thing.

Okay, so what she's saying here, I don't think we can play any more of this because it's too hard to understand.

She's asked, do you believe that it's well-educated parents that can make proper decisions in what's best for their children?

She says, well, in a democracy, and particularly in the United States, public education has been the means for people to move up to greater opportunities, make more money, for each generation to be able to succeed more than their parents have.

My father didn't graduate from high school, so it was really important to me that I went to college.

When it gets into the details, would my father have known what courses I should be taking?

I don't think so.

Again, somebody interrupts and says, well, wait a minute, hang on just a second.

Are you saying that parents without college are less fit to oversee their children's education?

She interrupts the person and says, if the dad's a carpenter and you want to become a carpenter, then yeah, listen to your dad.

One of the people who was in the house said, with all due respect to the senator, I'm a carpenter.

And that the idea that she or any other government official knows what's best for me or any member of my family is preposterous.

You're talking about allowing only well-educated parents to choose.

I may not have a degree, but I can guarantee when it comes to decisions regarding my family's interest, I'm far more educated and capable than any government official ever will be.

This is the problem

in America that a lot of people are feeling, and there's some good things that we can get out of this

movement.

There's a few things like, okay, no chokeholds.

Most departments don't have chokeholds.

They don't allow that.

Okay, no chokeholds.

What about

asset forfeiture?

Can we get rid of asset forfeiture?

That means the cop can pull you over, take your assets, and

they're gone.

don't have a right to them anymore.

They can take it for any reason if they suspect.

These kinds of things are government overreach.

And when government overreach starts to happen, that's when people say, hey, this is becoming oppressive, yada, yada.

And they'll start listening to the throw off the chains stuff.

But you have to understand, anyone who is saying, our government is oppressive, what the people who are marching for now, and I I don't mean all of the people,

I'm not going to continue to say it like this because it drives me out of my mind.

It's not all of the people.

There are a lot of good, decent Americans that are protesting and they have good intent.

Others just want to watch the world burn, but the organizers are Marxist and they need you to believe that America is horrible, that it's racist, because they'll replace it with people like this

who know better than you.

We just know better than you.

And they are much more judgmental on race and position.

I mean,

when you are not looking at people as individuals, but you're looking at them just based on race, you have nothing but trouble, especially if one race is the troublemaking race.

And remember, tables have turned back in, you know, the 1800s and early 1900s, 1900s, blacks were the problem.

You know, they're just a different race.

They don't understand.

There are things that we just can't even teach them.

What are those things?

Well, if you don't know, you wouldn't know.

Oh,

really?

Now the tables have turned.

Now they want to, instead of fixing racism and working together on racism, no, no, no, there are things about white people that they just don't understand, and they never will understand, and they're the problem.

with the senator.

It's not about race, it's about education.

If you didn't go to college, you're not really, you're not qualified, really, to take care of your own children.

Now you're probably doing something wrong.

We'll find it.

Lamont Hill, who is

a professor and he's been on MSNBC forever, he's come out and he said, look,

protesters, stop taking a knee with the cops.

Stop, I'm quoting, stop taking pictures with the police.

Suddenly,

it's not radical resistance in every area.

If you take a picture, when you're at a protest march, don't let the police take a knee with you.

They can take a knee, but you don't have to take a picture with them.

Our goal is to abolish the police.

It's to, I'm sorry, our goal now is to abolish police, but it's to completely reimagine our social order.

Do you understand what that means?

Completely reimagine our social order.

If you take the pictures of these cops taking knees, if you take pictures with these cops doing all kinds of warm and fuzzy normal stuff, it sends a message that the problem isn't the system.

It's just the particular actors in the system.

Well, yeah, that's what I contend.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's what that is.

So you're saying don't

do that because then you can't blame a whole category of people?

Listen how evil that is.

He goes on, if you and your community have been brought up with respect for law enforcement,

if you have come to see the police as friends or even friends of the family, that, that, and I'm quoting, that doesn't serve our Marxist revolutionary purpose, so cut it out or stay at home.

And yet,

is the media covering any of these things?

No, they're not.

It's a heck of a different view.

I'm convinced that go ahead.

This is a heck of a different vibe than what were presented as the the goals for these rallies.

Everyone understands that

black people should be treated just as fairly as white people.

There should be no difference there.

That's

quite a difference from, hey, let's build a bridge to a cop and share a moment together as humans.

That's no longer on the table because we have Marxist goals we need to achieve.

That's not what I'm seeing on MSNBC.

That's not what I'm seeing on CNN as the goal for these things.

I'm a little concerned about that.

Isn't that strange that they have a contributor in Mark Lamont and they're not covering those kinds of things?

They're not coming out and saying that

because they know the progressives know the Marxists will be rejected.

So the progressives continue down, let's make slow progress.

And the first thing that they have to do is to whitewash, oh my gosh, what a racist statement that is.

Black Lives Matter.

Remember,

Black Black Lives Matter shot cops on a protest in Dallas.

What was it, six?

They are Marxist, communist,

revolutionaries.

They are extreme.

But

because people are either afraid or

they want to be part of the cool kids or they just haven't done their homework and they don't know what people are actually protesting for.

Some people are going down and protesting with good intent.

Some people are posting things with good intent.

But every time you post something that says, you know, I'm with Black Lives Matter, you're normalizing them.

You're whitewashing them.

You're convincing people that they're okay.

They are as dangerous as the Nazis are.

I'd be saying the same thing if the Klan was doing a clam bake every Friday and feeding the, you know, homeless people.

And people were like,

you know, the

hunger of the homeless has got to be addressed.

I stand with the Klan.

What?

Do you know who they are?

You would never do that with the Nazis.

You'd never do that with the Klan because you know who they are.

But in the early days of Nazism in Germany, that's exactly what happened.

People were like, Yeah, there's problems, we've got all kinds of issues, and these guys, at least they love Germany, at least they're saying the same things I am saying.

You can't stand with them.

And when you're talking people do, when you're talking about like

they're more, they're as dangerous as Nazis, you're mean these hardcore Marxists, right?

That are, yeah, I mean, because you look at the history, obviously, and I think this is what you're basing this on, more people were killed by communists and socialists than by Nazis.

And we should, of course, include that the Nazis were, in fact, socialists.

So they should actually be included in that tally.

In fact, they are separated from it because of the, you know, they call it fascism.

Though it was very, the elements of socialism were very similar.

And you correctly point out that it's so weird how these things have these ups and downs.

You know, now cops are the bad guys, right?

Cops, as you point out, there was a Black Life rally march, there was a guy who came out and shot a bunch of cops while that was going on.

I mean, certainly the organization didn't come out and say, yes, that was us, but it was during

that protest at the time.

And a lot of that had to do with,

you know, I watched the Dave Chappelle thing this weekend.

Have you seen this yet, Glenn?

Yeah.

Yeah.

First of all, it's terrible.

I mean, Dave Chappelle is an incredibly talented comedian, one of the best of all time.

It is a terrible special in which I don't know that he tells a joke in the entire thing.

I mean, it's just him yelling at people and he doesn't seem to know all that much about what he's talking about.

But he basically goes through the idea of that Dallas shooting being

kind of, and I don't want to say, he doesn't say it's justified, but he basically says, look, you know, this is what's going to happen.

And of course it's going to happen.

And you should know it's going to happen because you've done bad things to black people.

Therefore, they're going to, of course, he's going to shoot cops.

It's like, well, I don't know how we get there.

I mean, remember, 9-11 was, we were all kind of together and saying the cops and the firefighters were were pretty good.

I remember during even the COVID thing, the frontline guys, we were all pretty much united saying things were going on.

I'm pretty sure the COVID thing's still happening, but back we treat that as an old era of the world.

First responders were in every commercial, and now live PD and cops can't be on the air a couple of weeks later.

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Well, hello, America.

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Yeah,

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Now, we may not be necessarily God's people, but this is his country.

And this country is responsible for a lot of great things far more than the bad things America has brought to the world and we've brought our share of bad things as well

not the same amount of bad things as I think other countries have

but the good things let's remember those let's remember that for the most part our people are fed They're healthy,

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How great is this system?

Before we tear it down, we should probably figure out: A,

is there a better system?

And B, why does Marxism keep coming up as a better system when we know it's not?

Dinesh D'Souza joins us in 60 seconds.

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So, Dinesh D'Souza is

one of my favorite people on earth because he truly gets it.

First of all, he truly gets America because he grew up in India and he saw America from abroad.

And even with all of our flaws, he still,

even the fact that a former president had him jailed,

he still loves America

and he knows the system is good.

It's just full of a lot of bad people right now.

And he's got a new book out called The United States of Socialism

and a new movie coming out called Trump Card.

We're going to try to get to both of those this hour.

But United States of Socialism is a great companion for arguing with socialists.

And in it, he really makes the case

all the way through, not just of the flaws of socialism, but how great America is.

And I want to start with Dinesh on

the grocery store that you walked into when you first came to America.

Detail that experience, would you?

I arrived at Glenn in Arizona as an exchange student at the age of 17.

I lived with the host family, and they were very eager to show me America.

And so they said, we're planning a trip to the Grand Canyon.

We're going to take you to Tombstone, Arizona,

the site of the gunfight at the O.K.

Corral.

They had all these sort of sites planned for me.

And I said, guys, I'd love to do all that.

But, you know, my idea of sightseeing is take me to a grocery store.

I mean, I want to see the abundance of American life, you know, 50 types of cheese and 25 types of ice cream.

I mean,

the abundance of America and its availability to the the ordinary man.

In India, as in many other countries, the rich guy has an opulent, enviable life.

But I think a country is judged by the kind of life it makes available to the common man, the ordinary fellow.

And I was always struck at how good the ordinary guy had it in America, not just in terms of prosperity, but also in terms of freedom.

So, Dinesh, first of all, did you actually say that at 17 years old?

Well, I did because

that was the most most striking thing to me.

I wasn't thinking politically.

I was just impressed at how smooth the roads were and how everything worked and how you didn't have to pay people under the table for everything.

Remember, I grew up in socialist India, and the two things I remember the most about socialism are: one, our family had a ration card, and that meant that every month we could only buy so much rice, so much sugar, so much cooking oil.

So I was used to India as a land of scarcity.

When I saw images of India as the the begging bowl of the world, I understood it.

That was the life around me.

The other thing was my family was on a seven-year wait to get a phone.

It seems hard to believe, and I don't usually mention this because Americans look at me like I'm insane.

But that's life under socialism.

Some of the scarcities we glimpsed very briefly under coronavirus are a kind of nasty preview of what things would be permanently like if India was, if America fell under the spell, if we became the United States of socialism.

So,

Dinesh, India, it's strange because India now has

shaken off many of the chains of socialism and have become

much more a capitalist society.

It still struggles, but it is getting better.

And we are now starting to go where the rest of the world has discovered is nothing but abject poverty and failure.

How do you explain this?

This is really the puzzle.

I mean, my wife is from Venezuela, and our two countries, India and Venezuela, have moved in opposite directions.

Venezuela, a once-thriving country, now reduced to complete ruin by adopting socialism.

India, the begging bowl of the world, is now more prosperous because it abandoned socialism and embraced technological capitalism.

So you would think that looking around the world, it's very clear which system works.

And yet,

that's why I think the revival of socialism in America, one country where socialism has never been in the mainstream, is not only a mystery, but is something that demands explanation and deep understanding.

And

you call it identity socialism, which I think is really, really good.

And in fact, I wrote a phrase down that you said,

you said, this isn't comprehensive Stalinism

in which there's an official position in classical music and chess, but rather limited Stalinism.

The left's goal is to stigmatize resistance as discrimination and

ruthlessly punish dissenters so everyone

is suitably warned.

This is

really an attack on the heart, which when you understand identity socialism, that is the way to get to America, is to go in through their heart and then destroy it.

Right?

Is that what you're saying?

Socialism is a mechanism.

Many people think socialism is merely a system of economic confiscation, but it's always been far more than that.

George Orwell understood this.

He was himself a man of the left.

But he saw that in the end, what Brig Brother, the state, is about is reducing citizens to abject conformity, to crushing their independence of spirit and of mind.

And I think that's ultimately the worst aspect of it.

It crushes our individuality, it crushes even our inner freedom.

And we're beginning to see this, these kind of liturgies of genuflection and subordination.

They're ultimately ways of us being, of us submitting, if you will, our own souls to socialist ideology.

So

the parade is very apparent.

I mean, when you started writing this, and I know it was the same for me when I was writing Arguing with Socialists,

you knew it was coming, and you saw it, you know, hidden, and then they became more and more bold as they started just to admit, yep, but Democratic Socialists, et cetera.

But the speed to which we are now seeing Americans

embrace socialists in BLM and excuse what's happening in Seattle is a little astounding.

Was it a shock to you, Dinesh?

It was a shock to me in this sense.

I have seen this kind of ideology in academia for a long time, as I think you have.

I think what has surprised us is that what we previously thought was occurring in the nuthouse or asylum of academia has now metastasized into the larger culture.

You could almost say that academia is the theory and Antifa is the practice.

So academia has been drilling into young people's heads without challenge, without critical scrutiny, the idea that what happened to George Floyd is not anomalous.

It's normal.

This is how cops are.

This is how America is.

Our institutions are racist and they have been chronically so since the beginning of the country itself.

So naturally, if that's what you think, if that's your premise, if that's your starting point, it seems normal to fling a Molotov cocktail into a police precinct.

Why?

Because you're doing what you can to fight the system by any means necessary.

So in some ways, this kind of destructive mayhem we're seeing on the street is the logical outcome of progressive ideology.

You talk about Antifa and what Antifa is.

Let me quote, the typical socialist today is not a union guy who wants higher wages.

It's a transsexual eco-feminist who marches in Antifa in Black Lives Matter rallies and throws cement blocks at her political opponents.

So

the logic behind socialism and a revolution was to get the workers of the world to unite the people, the average person.

But that is not the case here.

And the more you see it, the more brutal and ugly it becomes, the more exposed they are.

And you realize this is not the average person.

Why did they make that change?

And how do they expect to win?

This is the key.

About a century ago, an economist named Werner Sombart wrote a book called Why Is There No Socialism in the United States.

And his very poignant answer was:

all socialist utopias came to grief on roast beef and apple pie.

And what he meant is that America has managed to deliver so much for the working man that the working man has no intention of overthrowing the system.

He wants to join the system.

He wants to enjoy its rewards.

Now the left has figured this out.

They can't get socialism that way.

So what they have to do is tap into other forms of resentment that exist or can be fomented in the society.

Obviously the most profitable is racial resentment.

So take George Floyd again.

This was a moment of potential national unity.

Everyone that you know and I know condemned this from the outset.

You could think we could all say, this is great, let's come together and figure this one out.

But no, for the left it was a political opportunity to do what?

To create division.

Now not class division, but racial division.

And then if you add gender division, male against female, straight against gay, legal against illegal, you see the scheme.

The scheme is to divide America every which way to create a 51% majority of oppressed victims.

That's the strategy of so-called identity socialism, which is a marriage of classic socialism and identity politics.

All right, so I want to talk to you about the endgame on that when we come back.

The name of the book is The United States of Socialism by Dinesh D'Souza, a guy who can articulate so well what's great about America.

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with

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And

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That belief

is

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We're back with Dinesh D'Souza

and his new book.

So, Dinesh,

what is the end game here

to getting...

Do you believe that Americans

are

going to play along with this in the long run?

I mean,

I'm not sure anymore,

but are they so well crafted, so well financed, and so well-positioned inside of our government that it's too late?

I hope not.

And I'm optimistic enough to think not.

But we have to recognize the formidable forces arrayed against us.

We're up against the deep state, the police agencies of government.

We're up against not only academia and the media and Hollywood, but now digital media.

Pretty much all the digital platforms are controlled by the left.

So we are too much, I would say, at their mercy.

It's not a fair fight.

They They can take bogus arguments, bogus ideologies, but simply by the deafening nature of their megaphones, put them out there to so many people that it becomes an incredible Herculean labor to try to correct it because we just don't have this megaphones of the same size.

So I think that is our biggest long-term problem.

So you said

this is the phrase I wrote down, socialism is a scheme for the trampling of the heart.

I think that's a brilliant line.

And

part of it is they've destroyed the heart of America.

They've been saying now for at least 15 years, drumming it through the media over and over again, America's a bad place.

We're a racist country.

We let our poor starve or die at the hospital gates.

And I think the heart of Americans is tired.

It's tired, and so many people are are growing up, and that's all they've heard about America.

How do we think important that Americans have never felt the need to stand up and defend the American dream?

They've taken it for granted.

Kind of the way that people took families for granted, kind of the way that people ultimately take their lives for granted.

You know, you don't think that there's a group of outlaws out there that want to raid your homestead, you know, and

rape your wife and take your stuff.

And so, when people say, when we go out and say, hey, let's get some gunslingers on our side, people look at you like, wow, why do I need that?

But that's what the left is all about.

It's ultimately about, I think, taking on this concept of America, the American dream, the American founding.

The progressive president, Woodrow Wilson, was the first president to attack the American founders.

Even during the Civil War, both sides appealed to the founding.

Both sides said, we are the true exponents of the Constitution until progressivism came along.

All right.

Dinesh D'Souza, we continue here in a second.

We get to some solutions.

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We're glad you're here.

We're talking to Dinesh D'Souza here for the next few minutes, and then we're going to go to Seattle and get an update from Seattle.

But the United States of Socialism is Dinesh D'Souza's new book, and you can grab it

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And you hit how to stop it in chapter six, which is worth the price of the book.

The art of war, the battle plan to defeat the socialists.

How confident are you in this?

I think it's a good plan if we can execute it.

And part of it is to recognize that American politics is fought in teams.

In the end, even the abolitionists could not end slavery.

Slavery was ended by the armies mobilized by the Republican Party, and the abolitionists knew that to be with history, to make history work for them, they had to get on the right team.

It's the same here.

There are all these people who say things like, oh, I don't like Trump's tweeting, I don't like his personality, I don't like this, I don't like that, but they don't realize that he is de facto the leader of the political campaign against socialism.

Not to mention the fact that he's also the classic entrepreneur.

He embodies, if you will, the American entrepreneurial spirit.

So that's the first thing, to have a certain wisdom about politics and recognize how it's done.

I think longer term, we have to sort of build our own institutions, our own media, our own education systems, so that we don't ultimately, we're not defined by the other side.

My wife says, how is it the case that even when we're in control, we're never in charge?

And the reason is we submit to the left's ability to frame the agenda.

That's what's got to stop.

Well, I am so with you on that.

And media is one of my concerns.

And there's a huge step that has to be taken, and that is in investigative journalism.

You know, we spend most of our time on the right responding to what the media is saying.

We should stop that and start

moving with investigation and investigative journalism on our own.

Let them respond to us.

But we're a ways away from that.

I want to go to Trump here for a second.

You know that I was a solid anti-Trumper

in the last election.

I am the opposite now because

he's fulfilled all the things that I didn't think he would do, and he hasn't done the things I thought he would do.

You know, I thought that Donald Trump was an arrogant guy that didn't understand the Constitution.

But he is not being a tyrant here at all, even though they're claiming he's a tyrant.

He's not.

He's being extraordinarily restrained.

And I understand the team thing.

More importantly,

I don't think there's anybody,

when Joe Biden, if he would get in, he's not going to be in charge of the agenda, and neither is the vice president.

What are you going to pull somebody from, you know, the mayor office of Atlanta and then have them run the free world?

This is going to be a well-planned, orchestrated Marxist takeover if this president loses.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, I think he has the weight of the world on him.

I'm reminded of when Lincoln headed to Washington, D.C., and he said that he faced a challenge greater than the one faced by Washington.

As far as I can see, Trump faces greater challenges, sort of a domestic insurgency, than any president in

my lifetime.

And I can't imagine any other Republican being even halfway up to this task.

For this reason, I think so much rides on Trump, on understanding what he's actually about and in recognizing that he is what stands between the American people and the kind of mayhem and chaos that the Democrats have in store.

You know, a lot of people will come up to him, and you talk about this.

A lot of people come up to him and say, Mr.

President, you know, we're thankful.

You know, I see how you're attacked all the time nonstop.

I don't know how you do it, but I'm grateful.

Tell me about the encounter you had when

fans of Donald Trump were saying that to him.

My family had a meet and greet with Trump, which we thought was going to be pro forma, just shaking hands and taking photos.

But we got to sit down for 45 minutes, and we posed to him the question, you know, how do you do it?

And we kind of expected him to laugh and go, ha ha ha, you know, I enjoy it.

I'm the greatest mud wrestler of all time, and so on.

But no, he sort of became reflective and he goes, you know, guys, he goes, at the end of the day, it gets to me.

And why?

Because I'm knocking myself out, trying to make things better.

He goes, we just did this operation with Baghdadi.

It was a magnificent success, even though it was high risk.

And he goes, and the media could care less.

It was like a one-day story.

And so Trump ultimately, sort of, when he lets his hair down,

you see a vulnerable side of Trump, quite different than his kind of Twitter persona.

And I think if he showed more of that side of him to the American people, his support would actually become enlarged.

Does he win?

I think he wins in the end.

He ultimately is a scrappy kid from Queens, and that is built into his personality.

You know, in some senses, I suppose you could say it's from a human side, a weakness.

Whenever someone strikes at him, no matter how picky you has to strike back.

But I think for us as Republicans, having nominated really one Boy Scout after another and seeing them, in a sense, completely smashed by the left, it's really refreshing to me to see a guy who actually sort of takes a certain relish in kicking people in the shins and in giving as good as he gets.

That's Trump's personality, and at this time, we need it.

Dinesh T'Souza, thank you so much.

The name of the book is United States of Socialism.

It's out now and you can find it on Amazon.

Grab it.

It's a must for your library.

Dinesh, as always, great to have you on.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Glenn.

My pleasure.

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I'm putting together a list, I'll have it for you tomorrow, of things that you need to do to prepare in case of

an American revolution, because I think that's what, well, I know it is, what the people on the streets want.

They want revolution, the BLM people.

I hope to God we don't go there.

I think the worst thing that could happen is for us to split and

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It would be devastating to America for decades to come.

We may never recover.

from something like that, but I fear it is a real possibility.

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Elijah Schaefer is a Plays TV host of slightly offensive,

and he's really not offensive.

Well, he's slightly offensive.

Actually, he's more than slightly offensive to those who believe in this Marxist world where we all have to bow down and

genuflect.

He's very offensive to those people, maybe slightly offensive to you.

Welcome, Elijah.

How are you?

I am doing great out here in the new country of Chaz, Seattle.

Thank you for having me on, Glenn.

You bet.

You're not actually staying there, are you?

In that six-mile radius?

No, I'm not actually staying there.

And thank God because a friend that I'm staying with, who's also a journalist, was

attacked.

They tried to steal his property, and then

they wanted to take him to an interrogation tent because they said he's trying to copy or capture their security plan.

So

it's divulging into a police state at night and then a hippie fest in the day.

What do you mean an interrogation tent?

That is a good question.

I'm glad I don't know.

But I know that multiple times they told me he needed to come with them and they tried to forcibly take him.

They assaulted him.

This is one of Raz Simone's crew that was out there last night.

The the supposed leader, alleged leader of the area, I don't know if he's a good or a bad guy, but he definitely was assaulted.

The police had to get involved.

And he's just a journalist, not even partisan.

He works for a non-partisan editorial called Scriber News.

So I don't know why he was a target of attack.

The leader of Chaz,

they found some tweets in his past that shows that he's very anti-homosexual, or at least has made very

crude remarks on Twitter about homosexuals.

Is he going to pay a price for that?

Will he go to the interrogation camp, do you know, or tent?

You know, he won't.

And I think that brings up the weird paradox of the fight between Antifa and Black Lives Matter, where Raz Simone represents more of the Black Lives Matter protest, but Antifa, which are using an entirely organized police system with the John Brown Gun Club, which is also linked to a terrorist attack on an ICE facility, and they are tied in heavily with Antifa, essentially with an Antifa security group.

I did go undercover, talk to one individual and he in BlackBlock told me that

he wasn't going to pursue these suspects any longer because that were infiltrating because they had left his region.

So at least I know they have the place divided up into regions and they have different personnel there monitoring, chasing, and there definitely are laws and rules.

There's no First Amendment.

They attacked a street preacher for sharing the gospel.

When I asked them why they attacked him, they said because he was using the N-word and doing

Nazi-style stuff.

And I said, all I heard him do was preach the gospel.

And they told him he was mentally ill.

They said that his preaching was a sign of mental illness and he needed mental help.

And then they picked him up, dragged him out, stole his speaker, his phone, and even at one point chokeholded him face down on the asphalt, very similar to George Floyd, which is ironic when you're protesting police brutality.

Yeah, I saw that, that finally somebody came up and said, what are you guys doing?

You know, knowing that this was exactly what happened to George Floyd.

Tell me about the

distinction between three different groups.

One,

the die-hards, the ones that are there in almost a military style operation,

then those who are

just kind of there.

Do they see what's really going on?

And then the people who are living in that area or have a business

in that area?

Yeah, that's a good question.

So initially, the diehards are very serious.

Last night, I was at a protest, and

mind me, sorry, one of the women that was one of the, I think, I guess, organizers, berated me and yelled at me for not chanting loud enough.

And when I told her I was tired, she called me B-I-T-C-H

and said that she had been sleeping in the park as well, and that if I'm with them, I need to be louder.

And I'm thinking, you know, she was mad at me because I wasn't loud enough at the protest, chanting with them.

So there's a lot of control and pressure there.

And they demanded that everyone show up at the West Precinct at a certain time.

And it's very demanding.

And they also talked about the French Revolution and their new name, Chopped.

And they referenced that, well, what happened to the people who didn't get on board of the last revolution in France?

They got and everyone yelled out, they got chopped.

So they they ain't business.

The people that are just that are just staying around, they're like tourists.

There's a lot of drugs.

One individual handed me a giant handful of magic mushrooms when I came in.

And so, and no, I did not buy drugs and not incriminated myself.

I went ahead and cast them into the dried-up, partially dried-up lake.

So there's that crowd.

They have no idea what's going on.

There was a couple overdoses.

and issues yesterday.

One man was taken out.

Another was psychotic in the street with her shirt off and had to be taken away out as well.

But then the businesses, Daily Beast says the businesses are on board, but I don't know if they're on board.

I can tell you they're boarded up.

They're not open.

And as a business owner myself, and you know and a lot of people know, if your business is boarded up and making zero revenue, it's difficult to be on board.

Daily Beast said they're on board because they're passing out granola bars.

But really, I'll leave you with this.

I've noticed that like the blood on the doorposts during the 10th plague, where the angel of death passed over when it saw the blood on the doors of the Hebrews, businesses are decorating their windows with rainbow flags of Black Lives Matter, say their names, all the quotes, and the ones that have their windows covered in the quotes don't have broken glass, and they're saved.

And so you have to kind of show and prove that you're with

you know you're with movement to avoid the angel of death destroying your business.

And it's really, really, really heavy to see.

One business in the area, the bathroom's code is 1312.

That's still open, and that's ACAB, which is all cops are

B-A-S-T-A-R-D-S.

So even the businesses are getting on board with the venue just to continue to, I guess, even right outside of the zone to avoid attack.

It's unbelievable.

Elijah, I mean, what you're describing sounds very much like Nazi Germany in the early 30s

and

Kristallnacht.

I mean,

your store was marked to be destroyed because you were a Jew.

What's the difference between that and you just don't, you won't bow down to Black Lives Matter?

It's a frightening time.

Please stay safe, Elijah.

Please stay safe.

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