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Also, yesterday, something big happened with Matt Lauer.

Matt Lauer spoke out for the first time and has come out strongly against Ronan Farrow.

Now, this just broke yesterday.

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Farrell.

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Oh, he looks like he is definitely cutting corners, and people are paying big time for it.

John Ziegler, who is the guy who has

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Well, now we have a man named John Ziegler on with us to speak to us about what's happening in the media and Rowan Farrow.

And we take you to Rowan Farrow and the media via Matt Lauer.

John, welcome to the program.

Glad and good to talk to you.

How are you?

So,

you know,

well, you know, talk to me.

You said that I have a love-hate relationship with America.

I just wish I could find out where the love was.

I mean, that's the part that's.

You get lots of love from us, John.

You get lots of love from us.

I think there's a lot of people that look at

what you write and appreciate.

Unfortunately, we're not in a time that

appreciates people who tell the truth as it is.

Some people do it, and they're pilloried for it, but they keep doing it.

And in the end, they will be remembered as icons of this time.

Well,

I'll tell my wife that.

I'm sure that'll make her feel much better.

Yeah, I know.

Eat all those icons you can get.

So, so, John, you called me, I don't even remember what it was, six months ago or so, and I was driving down the highway in California, and you called me, and you said, I just had a call from Matt Lauer.

And I said, shut up.

And you said, yeah.

And he invited me to his house and I went.

Can you tell the story of how this happened

and what it was like?

Because I read your column yesterday and I read it again this morning.

It's an amazing tale.

Yeah, there's so many different aspects of this story.

I think for your listeners, there's the backstory, which I'm definitely a huge part of, but then I'm sure we're going to get to the biggest part of the story, which is that Ronan Farrow is a fraud and that the media is completely broken, especially on this issue of sex abuse allegations.

But just as a little bit of backdrop, I had appeared on the Today Show three times when Matt Lauer was the host and three very contentious interviews.

He did me no favors.

We were not buddies.

But he respected my work, and he knew I was someone who would tell the truth regardless of what the ramifications were for me.

That's kind of been my reputation.

I'll actually defend people I don't even like if I think that they've been wrongly accused.

And I think

my track record on this is pretty outstanding.

And so I had kept in touch with one of his producers and he had contacted that person to get in touch with me.

I went across the country, spent about five or six hours with him.

And you know me well enough to know, Glenn, that when I do this, this is not a softball situation.

I'm not, actually, when I go into a situation like this, I am trying to prove that the person I'm dealing with or interviewing is actually guilty.

So that I don't have to deal with this.

I don't want this, okay?

This is not something I'm seeking out.

I want to make sure that the person that I'm dealing with is telling me the truth.

And anyone who knows me knows I can smoke out a fraud in about five seconds.

So when I spent five hours with somebody in their kitchen alone, I got a pretty good sense of it.

I had already already felt like I knew Matt pretty well because we've been a foxhole against each other three times.

And then after that, I wrote a column for Mediight saying, there's a completely different story here.

Ronan Farrow has, in my view, blown this, but there's no way for Matt Lauer to tell his story in this modern media environment, especially post-me too, where all the rules have completely changed, the media is completely broken, there's not enough scrutiny, there's not enough time.

Once the narrative is set, it's over with.

Well, I wasn't sure what was going to happen at that point when I spoke to you.

I didn't know whether Matt would end up doing an interview with Oprah or whatever.

Anyway,

Matt asked me, he said, look,

I have all this information that this book, Ronan Farrow, wrote, is completely false and provably false, and that Ronan Farrow didn't even bother to check with people he references in the book, including two ex-boyfriends of the person that Pharaoh uses to accuse me of rape.

Now, think about how insane that is, Glenn, that two ex-boyfriends are willing to speak to Matt Lauer, a person who

effectively they should have romantic jealousy towards, who can't do anything for them.

They're still in the media business.

And

Matt Lauer is now a pariah.

And you know how the media business works.

I mean, nobody wants to do anything to threaten their gig.

This is the easiest way to threaten your gig in the world.

Speaking out on behalf of Matt Lauer against Ronan Pharaoh.

And these are key people in the book.

These are key people that Pharaoh uses to corroborate this alleged story of what he now calls rape that he didn't even check with, who tell totally different stories that not only don't corroborate the accuser's story, but say, no, that didn't happen.

Let me tell tell you what really happened.

And so Lauer says to me, after, I mean, hours and hours and hours of conversation, what do I do?

Is there a mainstream reporter that I can provide this to that will be fair about this?

And I did some research.

I talked to some people I thought were possible.

I've been through these wars before, and I came back to him.

I said, Matt, there's no way.

You can't do it.

The media is so broken that what will happen is if you give the information that you have have accumulated via your own investigation of this there's not one mainstream reporter at a major outlet that will have the ability and the and the guts to actually see this through they will they will they will absolutely turn it against you they will diminish everything you have found they could because it doesn't do them any good Because the truth doesn't matter.

It's not about the truth.

It's about the narrative.

It's about making sure you protect your own gig, you protect your position in the media club.

That's what this is.

It's a club.

And no one wants to go outside the herd because they'll get run over.

And the easiest way to get run over is going up against Ronan Farrow.

And so I said, Matt, the only way you can do this is if you write this yourself and use your own celebrity, your own journalistic abilities, your own connections to the story to personalize it.

And so this was an incredibly long process.

I mean, just insane.

I mean,

I can't even, maybe at some other point, I'll tell you the full story about all this when we have more time, but the reality is it was months and months, and it was intended to come out way before this, but obviously the coronavirus situation hit, and there was no way you're going to do that in the middle of the pandemic.

But then the New York Times came out earlier this week via Ben Smith, with I think you accurately described it, was a soft push against Ronan Farrell saying, hey, look, is Ronan Farrell really as good as he appears to be?

Is he too good to be true?

And let's just say, Glenn, that wasn't a coincidence that that came out, when it did and how it did.

And

there was a plan involved in all this.

So that's actually good news, though, John.

That shows that they are softening the landscape to be able to possibly flip on Ronan Farrell.

I mean, it was an amazing story from the New York Times where they were saying, you know, I mean, he's a golden boy, he's great, but maybe he was thrown into the deep end, you know, before he was ready to do journalism, and so he didn't know all of the rules.

Oh my gosh, that's your criticism.

He's destroying lives, and that's the way you handle it.

Oh, wow.

Hey, Mark Lennon, and to me, the headline of there's so many interesting aspects of this, but the headline of this entire affair is: Ronan Farrow is a fraud.

He's not just a bad journalism.

He's a fraud.

He is a concoction of the news media.

They fell in love with him because of Me Too.

He got,

you could argue he got lucky.

They fell in love with him before.

They fell in love with him before.

I don't know why.

The guy won all kinds of journalistic awards before

the Me Too movement.

He was the darling of the media.

Nobody knew who he was.

I don't know what happened, but there he was.

And so they've been in love with him, and he's been their golden child for a while.

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Let me break for one minute, and I want to come back, and I want you to go over what Matt Lauer posted yesterday in this amazing story

where he did the work and said, look, check my work.

Here it is.

They didn't, Rowan Farrow did not call these people,

did not verify these facts, and I've been accused of rape.

And it's stunning.

We'll do that with John Ziegler coming up in just a second.

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All right, so

let's move on from Ronin and go to Matt Lauer.

John Ziegler is with us.

John,

tell me the takeaways that you have from

the article and the most powerful things that you you heard from Matt himself first and that he tracked down.

Well, I mean, I've probably had a hundred hours of conversation with Matt Lauer over the last seven months since this book came out, and that's probably a conservative estimate.

And I think the takeaways from his piece on Mediite, which is about 5,000 words and could have been 8,000 words.

In fact, it was at one point close to 8,000 words.

I think the takeaways are this: that Ronan Farrow had four people that were prominently mentioned in his book that are used to corroborate the allegation of rape against Matt Lauer by a former NBC producer.

Now, let's be clear.

I think one of the biggest misconceptions about this case is that somehow Matt Lauer was fired back in 2017, post-MeToo, for a rape allegation.

That's not true.

What happened was that Brooke Nevilles, an NBC producer, came to NBC post-MeToo in the middle of that moral panic and said, I had sex with Matt Lauer in his office, in his dressing room.

And they asked Matt Lauer, is that true?

Matt Lauer said yes.

And in that environment, that was a violation of his contract.

They got a Me Too scalp, which they needed.

NBC did because they were under all this fire because of the Weinstein situation.

And they had been accused of killing Ronan Farrow's story when he was at NBC.

That's why he had to go elsewhere with it.

And so they decapitate Matt Lauer.

And there's all these stories that come out immediately after because, Matt, let's face it, Matt Lauer made a lot of enemies when he was

the king of morning TV for a couple of decades.

And one of the most bogus stories, which I'm sure you probably remember, is this whole supposed rape button that he had in his office.

You guys remember this story?

I mean, the biggest bunch of baloney.

Anybody who's ever been in a media office knows how ridiculous this is.

Just for the record, everybody at that level had the same button.

It didn't lock anybody in an office.

It locked people out in the office.

I mean just a nonsensical baloney that people just latch on to because it fits a narrative that for some reason they want.

Anyway, so Mac goes away.

He's thinking his career is basically over, or at least for now,

but he's just going to go on with his life, try to repair his marriage.

He understands he's made all sorts of major mistakes.

And then this book comes out late last year where Brooke Neville's has now decided to tell Ronan Farrow, or in my opinion, I think Ronan Farrow has helped Brooke Neville come to the conclusion that actually the sex between the two of them was rape, even though they had an extended affair, that they had sex several times after the alleged rape and so chi during the 2014 Olympics.

And to me, one of the most important things that I learned in all this is that Matt Lauer and Ronan Farrow met before the book came out.

And when they met, and Matt Lauer had a friend who was a lawyer there with him,

Matt was shocked to find out that this was now an allegation of rape.

And that Ronan Farrow actually told Matt Lauer that Brooke Nevilles had come to the belief that their sex was an act of violence, quote-unquote, in hindsight.

In hindsight.

Now, not just a day hindsight, five years hindsight.

Post-me too hindsight.

Hindsight after deciding she's going to write a book.

After writing a book that might have been published by Ronan Farrow's publisher.

I mean,

the conflict of interest here is astonishing.

And when I heard, wait a minute, hold on, because this is not my first rodeo, as you guys know, and I know how Ronan Farrell works.

And

my personal opinion is that Ronan Farrow effectively convinced Brooke Nevilles that she had been, quote-unquote, raped, because

Ronan Farrow needed a hook for his new book.

He had done the Weinstein thing, but that was old news by the time the book came out.

So what's he going to do?

He needs a new allegation.

He needs a celebrity.

He would love to go after NBC because after all, it was NBC that kept Ronan Farrow down with his Weinstein reporting.

He has a huge vendetta against NBC.

And so

this ticks off all the boxes.

He gets a new allegation.

He gets a new target.

He goes after NBC.

And all of a sudden, Matt Lauer gets accused of rape.

And so

at that point, because Ronan Farrow is the golden child, and because the media is such a bunch of morons and don't care about the truth, and just move on from a story as soon as

it no longer benefits them, Lauer has almost no options.

And so that's how it came to be that yesterday he finally writes the real story of this.

And he does not, and it's also incredibly important to point out, he goes out of his way to not even mention Brooke Neville's in this story.

This is about Ronan Farrow.

This is about journalistic malpractice.

This is about how

is it?

I'm sorry.

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I know you do.

I know you do.

I'm going to have you take a breath for a minute.

I'm going to give you something from page 387.

This is from

Rona's book and then Matt Lauer talking about it.

He writes in his book that Brooke

makes involving an alleged encounter in my dressing room, which was a floor above the Today Show studio.

She said she came to my dressing room to get some photos.

She leaned over my desk.

I sexually assaulted her with my hands.

Then he writes, crying, she ran to the new guy

that she had started seeing.

A producer who was working in the control room that morning told him what had happened.

He then asked,

Did Pharaoh look for the new guy she started seeing?

Did he talk to her, talk to him?

Did he verify?

No,

but Lauer did.

And I want to go over some of that with John here in a second.

Some of the things that Pharaoh did not do that Matt Lauer did that are stunning.

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John Ziegler is with us now.

He writes for Mediite, and he's been tracking this amazing story with Matt Lauer, and he joins us now.

John,

tell me about the things that

were not covered by Pharaoh in his book.

He didn't seem to verify anything

with pretty easy sources.

I mean, he never went to the boyfriend in the control room and said, hey, did this happen?

And Matt Lauer did.

And according to his story,

he had, while it was contentious at first, he spent hours with these people getting

their story, and they don't match Brooks' story or Ronin's story.

I think it's actually more Ronin's story, but it is technically Brooks' story.

The person who's accusing him now of rape

at the Olympics in Sochi in 2014.

Yeah, the key elements here are that Ronan Farrow's M.O., Glenn, is to tell the story of the accuser by augmenting all of their little details to create the impression of authenticity and deep dive journalism, like little, even tiny details, which Lauer illustrates in his piece on Media Yesterday, are actually not even accurate and then most times made up.

But where it really gets nefarious is where he will make it appear to the reader as if a story has been verified by another party, a witness, someone who was there, because that's the way Pharaoh describes it.

But then when Lauer actually goes to that person, because he knows who they are, even though their names aren't used in Pharaoh's book, guess what happens?

Two things are amazing.

One, We learn that that's not what happened at all.

That's not their version of the story.

Number two, Pharaoh didn't even bother to contact them.

And three, what's really the most amazing part is that in two of these cases, these are ex-boyfriends of Brooke Neville's.

They have no animosity towards her.

They should have immense animosity towards Matt Lauer.

He's the guy who Brooke cheated on them

while they were dating

Brooke with Matt Lauer.

So they should have jealousy towards him.

He can do nothing for them.

He's a pariah.

He's no longer the host of the Today Show.

And yet, they felt so strongly about the truth that they were willing to tell him on the record, hey, look, this is not what happened.

Ronan Farrow never contacted me.

My version of this story is completely different.

In one case, it never even happened.

It was just completely made up.

And these details matter when you have an allegation that didn't happen for five years and only happened after Ronan Farrow decides he's going to write a book.

He needs a new story.

There's the conflict of interest I already referenced.

There's a book deal in the horizon for Brooke Nevilles.

And what we find at the end is that Ronan Farrow's journalism is so bad that you cannot possibly trust the outcome of it.

These are not minor details.

This is not, well, he got a guilty guy.

He just

exaggerated the evidence against him.

No, I am very confident in saying that Matt Lauer never raped Brooke Neville's.

Matt Lauer was a CAD.

Matt Lauer made huge mistakes.

He paid

immensely.

I don't think there's anyone who's ever paid more in the media for infidelity than Matt Lauer did.

And you can argue he deserved that, and I've told him that.

But he did not deserve to be called a rapist.

I don't believe that he deserved to become this pariah in America.

I actually, I mourn the fact that morning television is so horrendous in his absence.

There's nobody that does a good interview anymore.

Matt Lauer was a tremendous interviewer, and we've lost that in our media culture because of this.

But most importantly, Ronan Farrell is a freaking fraud who should not be trusted and certainly should not have this position of the moral arbiter of all relationships between men and women.

I mean, it's insane.

All right, let me take you.

Let me get you back on the facts on a couple of things.

Ronan writes, over the course of 2018, I'd learn of seven claims of sexual misconduct raised by women who worked with Lauer.

This is an un as Matt writes, this is Ronin at his most manipulative.

Explain this.

This is astonishing.

Yeah, when you read that, you go, wow, there's seven allegations against Matt Lauer.

Until when you read it carefully, as I'm sure you did, Glenn, what you realize is, you know what,

that statement could also be made about those same seven women worked with Al Roker, too.

They worked with Laura.

Right, seven claims.

Seven claims of sexual misconduct raised by women who worked with Lauer.

So that's a true statement, but

they're not claims against Lauer.

Correct.

They're just seven women who worked with Lauer.

Exactly.

That's unbelievable.

Well, but here's the proof, by the way, that that's false.

Because in the aftermath of the book, Ronan Farrell,

who's a conspiracy theorist, by the way.

Ronan Farrow is a conspiracy theorist.

It's not just with Lauer and NBC, but throughout this entire book.

I mean, and that doesn't get talked about enough.

But one of the, you know this as well as anybody, Glenn.

One of the keys when you see someone who is on a story and they say that they don't really have it nailed, they say the worst is yet to come.

We've seen this with, by the way, with the virus, right?

I mean,

the media is still waiting for Florida to blow up any day now, like Linus and the Great Prince Patch.

I mean, so when they don't really, when they don't have the story nailed, it's the worst is yet to come.

And Pharaoh dramatically, on MSNBC, got NBC to release all women who ever signed a nondisclosure agreement with NBC.

NBC said, look, if they feel like we're keeping them from speaking about their stories, they are now free to talk.

We will not enforce NDAs.

And that was portrayed as, oh, boom, boom, boom.

All these women are going to start to come out, and this, my story about Matt Lauer is going to be proven to be true.

That was over six months ago, Glenn.

The crickets are still chirping.

There's not been one, not one person who has come forward and said, yep, I signed an NDA with NBC because they were protecting Matt Lauer.

Matt Lauer abused me, harassed me, whatever.

And let me tell your story.

And by the way, trust me, as you know well, the media would have been all over that if it had happened.

But it hasn't happened because it didn't exist, because Ronan Farrell lied, and that's the way he lies in the book.

He lies by portraying something that appears to be true using the credibility he's been given as this media superstar.

And most readers

aren't going to give that much scrutiny.

They're not going to be that cynical because they think this guy's credible when he's actually a total fraud.

Okay, listen, this is what Mediite put as an editor's note.

After Matt Lauer submitted this piece, a response to Ronan Farrell's book, Catch and Kill, Mediite editors independently fact-checked the accounts of the four witnesses and the subjects Lauer spoke with and cites in this piece.

All confirmed in early February that Lauer's account of their conversation was accurate.

So Lauer has a case,

a lawsuit against the publisher of his book.

Is he going to file?

I mean,

look, John, you know, publishers, at least with conservatives, publishers make us

go through all kinds of circus hoops to be able to put any fact in any book.

They check them six ways to Sunday.

They challenge us every step of the way.

Where was the fact-checking?

How could this book have been possibly written when they didn't fact-check and didn't call the sources to make sure that those people

were truly on record?

How did this happen?

Well, it happens because Ronan Faro is perceived as untouchable and already vetted.

And that's the most dangerous thing that can happen in any news story.

I've seen this dozens of times where everyone thinks someone else is doing the vetting and no vetting gets done.

But as far as a lawsuit is concerned, as you know, because Matt Lauer is obviously a very public figure, the legal burden here is incredibly high.

Matt has considered this.

Matt has kept his options open.

He would in theory love to do it, but in practice, and he and I have talked about how this would go down, it's a very expensive and arduous process that could end up going in all sorts of different directions.

He has not in any way, shape, or form, ruled that out.

I'll tell you what else, though,

I'll tell you who is going to sue Ronan Farrow over this book.

It's Dylan Howard, the former editor of the National Enquirer.

He's going to sue Ronan Farrow.

And he has made it very clear that everything that Farrer wrote about him in the book, some of which even relates to Lauer, is totally false.

So Ronan Farrow is going to be sued over this book.

I don't know whether or not Matt Lauer will be doing the suing, but I can tell you, I mean, the thing that your listeners need to understand is Matt Lauer did not rape this woman.

Ronan Farrow didn't do his job.

Ronan Farrow is not to be trusted.

And the media needs to hold Ronan Farrow accountable.

They won't, though, because he's essentially too big to fail.

This narrative has been set, and it is the worst example of how broken the news media is that I can possibly imagine.

Well, I can't, I mean,

I said to you, did you watch the Apple show, the morning show, when you called me seven months ago?

And I I said, because I think that's closer to what happened.

Although at the end of the first season, it looks like he is kind of a bad guy

and kind of a rapist.

But it's,

you know, before I hit that episode,

I thought

this is probably the Matt Lauer story to where he is.

He's just kind of going along and clueless, and people are changing the point of view, and and they're not looking, and they're not saying to him.

And

it's destroying people, absolutely destroying good people.

And look, the guy had an affair, he admitted it.

It was consensual, and maybe that's against your corporate policy, but it happens all the time.

I mean, read history, and it's going to continue to happen.

But we've got to stop destroying people

because it happens and allowing this to go on.

And I think Ronan Faro is going to be remembered,

watch the reaction to this one, is going to be remembered as

McCarthy from the McCarthy hearings.

That McCarthy had some things right,

but he had a lot wrong, and he was the worst messenger.

And a lot of people that were communists got away with it because he so discredited the hunt for

real communists in our country that it became a joke

and helped the communists out after that because it had gone so far and so many lives had been destroyed by this guy and the Committee for Un-American Activities.

I think we're in the same thing.

This is the new red hunt.

It's the new Hollywood blacklist.

They're not covering this with Matt Lauer because he's on a blacklist.

You're not to help him.

You're not to say anything.

He's dead to everybody.

And that's the Hollywood blacklist.

And I think Ronan Farrow is going to be remembered in the end as McCarthy, a guy who,

by hook or by crook, did things that destroyed people.

He got rich off it.

He got famous.

He had power.

And in the end, what did he do?

He probably will end up destroying any good that has been done by the Me Too movement because nobody's going to believe anything anymore.

Well, I hope you're right, Glenn.

You have more faith sometimes than I do about how it's all going to turn out because I think everybody who's in charge here is invested in a narrative.

And that's why I mentioned he's too big to fail.

They can't go against Ronan Farrell.

I mean, the New York Times had the goods on him, and they only, you know, it was a glancing blow because they're afraid.

They're afraid of.

I always say this, but it's so important for people to understand the media culture.

The elite media is a club.

It's a club.

This is basically high school.

No one wants to be out of the popular kids' club, right?

You want to be at the popular kids' lunch table.

You don't want, I mean, I was the kid that never cared about that.

This is a shock to you, I'm sure.

But for people that are in the media, this is what's important to them: their prestige.

They're part of a club, keeping their gig,

keeping their alleged credibility.

And

the easiest way to lose that is to go up against the Ronan Pharaoh.

Because you go outside this herd, you get run over.

And it's funny you mentioned about Steve Carell's character in that TV show being a bit naive.

I think Matt Lauer was a bit naive.

He's an incredibly smart guy.

But I think that

you're almost like an animal who's been in a zoo for too long.

You lose your survival instincts.

And he did not see what was coming for him.

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It'd be interesting to me to see if anybody in the media actually takes this on and runs with it.

Yeah, and one of the things I think is important for the conservative audience, because

Matt Lauer is not a character that people are like, oh, I'm really rooting for the guy.

But Ronan Farrow is somebody who has been really important in this.

He's been basically the the face of journalism in the Me Too movement.

And he is also the guy who tried to leverage that credibility to get Brett Kavanaugh thrown off at the Supreme Court.

People forget that he was the guy giving credence to some of the more out there Avenati level

people who were going, you know, the gang rape and all the crazy fringe sort of accusations against Kavanaugh.

He was the guy who really pushed that into the mainstream.

And, you know, it's one thing to say, well, you know, of course, Lauer's out there saying he didn't do these things.

You know, he got in trouble for it and he's trying to defend himself.

That's understandable.

But when you read his account of this,

he's not saying, you know, oh, I believe me.

He's saying, this is who

Ronan Faro said was the source of this.

I went to that source.

They said he never even called me, let alone got the story right.

And then MediaIte went and checked with those sources as well and confirmed it wasn't just Lauer lying about it.

So we have multiple, he has seven or eight different varieties of this showing that it, forget the fact that Ronan Farrow is doing good or bad, he's just not doing journalism at all in a lot of cases.

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notes in front of me because all of the paperless notes are not showing up on my computer screen.

So it's been fun.

So I'm kind of bluffing my way through the show today.

But I do that every day.

So I should be pretty good at it.

I wanted to get Jason Buttrill on with us.

Jason is our chief researcher, and he is the guy who really went neck deep into Ukraine and our Ukraine special with Joe Biden.

Nobody's checked in on it, but there's a couple of really big developments that happened yesterday in Ukraine that, you know, everybody else in the world is covering, but why would the American press cover this?

Because it involves Joe Biden.

Jason.

Thanks, Glenn.

Wow, two huge stories that dropped within about 24 hours of each other.

We'll get to more about that in a second.

I think that is on purpose

and not necessarily a good thing, but again, we'll get into that for a second.

But the first story that dropped was that the prosecutor general that Biden had fired in the quid pro Joe

was Victor Shokin.

And he's been actor just after justice for the longest time on this.

In February, he went to the court and said, hey, I was mistreated by Joe Biden.

They masked, to use

a term that's out in the public now, Joe Biden's name in official court documents in Ukraine.

Now, Ukrainian media has been all over this.

We're reporting on it non-stop.

Nobody over here has.

But the judge in February of this year said that, yes, Joe Biden looks like he did a criminal act when he did the quid pro Joe.

That was pretty much just swept under the rug.

No one's heard about it.

But the Prosecutor General now, the current one, was supposed to investigate that and continue this.

It's actual criminal investigation against against Joe Biden in Ukraine.

Well, the process.

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

This is a really, really big deal.

I want to make sure that you understand

what he just said.

It's a criminal investigation by their equivalent of our attorney general.

So

it's our bar.

And

it is all revolving around Joe Biden saying, hey, I told them that they want the money.

They got to fire this guy

before I get on the airplane.

And he said Obama knew all about it.

And

we've been telling you, no,

he wasn't a bad attorney general, if you will.

He was a good guy.

He was just on to Burisma and the goings-on of the Obama administration.

And so they swept him out, but no charges were ever filed.

No one ever had anything to accuse him of except for Joe Biden and apparently Barack Obama.

Everyone in Ukraine saw this as we on our research staff saw it as a political move to protect Joe Biden, the United States,

you know, the corrupt people from the United States, and

get rid of this guy and discredit him.

Well,

he wants his name back.

And all of these things that have been hidden are now coming out.

So, Jason,

what happened the latest?

So, so now

it came out that these official court documents finally did come out.

They're trying to pressure the court or the prosecutor general saying, hey, continue this.

The judge ruled in the favor that you should investigate him.

Continue that on.

So, that's the court documents that just got released.

Now, literally, almost simultaneously, the audio tapes.

Now, this is amazing, Glenn.

Audio tapes between first is in first in 2015, audio tapes between John Kerry, phone conversation between him and the current Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko.

That leaked somehow.

Now, that's an official encrypted call, either from the White House, the State Department,

Air Force One, something like that.

It's hard to tell.

But that phone call leaked, and it was John Kerry basically saying, hey, Joe Biden's about to come down.

He wants this Prosecutor General Shokin fired.

Now, there's a sling of other, a slew slew of other phone conversations.

There's about 10 of them or so, all in all.

But in those conversations, it's Joe Biden specifically saying, it sounds exactly like it's him.

They haven't been verified, but it does sound authentic to me of him saying, I want this prosecutor general fired, and Petro Poroshenko eventually saying, I'm doing this for you.

I got

fired.

Now, a lot of the people that are reporting on this, the Washington Post just reported on this, they're basically calling it a big nothing burger.

They're leaving out a very, very important part of the phone call.

Can you imagine that?

Yeah, I know.

It's amazing when you read it.

They're like, hey, this is a nothing burger.

But when you actually read through, and I've read all the transcripts, I've listened to the tape.

There's one very specific part where, and this is a quote, Poroshenko says, Despite the fact that we didn't have any corruption charges on him, we don't have any information about him doing something wrong, I asked him to resign.

Now, none of the Western media is pointing that out when they're calling this a nothing burger.

This is Peter Poroshenko saying, look, he did it.

When he said that on the phone, he said that on the phone to John Kerry.

He said that to Joe Biden.

He said this to Joe Biden because Joe Biden was like, hey, did you get that guy fired?

And he's like, yes, I did.

He did nothing wrong.

Do we have evidence on that?

Do we have that on tape or is that only a transcript?

We have that on tape.

You can listen to Poroshenko.

I can't say that specifically to Biden.

Okay, I want you to do me a favor.

We got to cut that in the control room.

I'm sorry, but I mean, I'm flying by the seat of my pants.

For two hours, I've been just trying to get my show prep back up.

So, could somebody in the control room cut that audio?

Jason, make sure the control room has it.

Cut those pieces of audio, and then we'll have you come back maybe next hour just for a few minutes to play that audio.

Because that is stunning.

That's stunning.

Now, one more thing: the in the

redacted

email to herself from Susan Rice was released, what was it, yesterday?

And it shows now that that president obama knew

that they were and biden was there that they were targeting flynn specifically can you tell me the latest on that

yeah so it's really interesting this email is getting redacted in bits and pieces the latest redaction shows that they were specifically talking about what what information they were supposed to they were going to transmit over to the trump transition um one was uh very specifically they were like we don't know if if we can give this information over because it has to do with the Russians.

And Flynn, very specifically,

was the reasoning for that because of his calls with the Russian ambassador.

Comey was

Comey actually sent.

But they knew at the time the FBI had confirmed there was no relationship with the Russians, right?

Amere hours before they had this meeting, the FBI closed the investigation.

This is the very next day.

So they had just gotten finished saying, Look, he's not even a part of this investigation anymore.

Then all of a sudden, you have Comey saying, hey, I don't know.

Maybe, you know, we shouldn't because of this Flynn, this Flynn thing.

Flynn was their way

to

continue to spy into the Trump campaign.

There's absolutely no question after all this.

He was their way.

They went after him.

And oh my gosh, what we are preparing right now is absolutely insane.

If you thought that it was weird that Italian diplomats over in Italy

unmasking

when Lara Logan and I were talking, what, a week ago, and we saw the Italian

ambassador.

Jason was there, and we kind of just looked at each other

off the set, and I was like, what is that all about?

And he's like, I am going to find out.

really can you give me any hint on this this story belongs in hollywood and it involves um gosh how do i do this without expolling everything it involves all western intelligence agencies all gathering at one spot in italy five eyes and uh

bigger five eyes um not specific okay huh okay

all right go but specifically but very specifically uh german uh British,

Italian, multiple different spy agencies.

They all gather in Italy for a very specific purpose, and they've all been working together,

including, allegedly, targeting members of the Trump campaign.

This is insane.

It's an absolutely insane.

You know what this is?

Did you see

James Bond?

What is the one with the octopus?

You know, not octopus,

but the new James Bond, where they're.

Specter.

Specter.

Spectre.

It's almost as if Spectre is real, and they are looking for that, you know, in one of the James Bond movies where they are saying, you know, we just, if we combine everything, we'll be able to control all information, et cetera, et cetera.

It's almost like that was happening here, that the other Western allies were working together with the Trump, or I'm sorry, with the Obama administration to

foster this deep state.

You mentioned in your last show that John Brennan was getting,

kind of off the record, but out of official protocols and channels, he was getting this information from British, their version of the NSA, the GCHQ.

That was out of the ordinary.

Why was he doing that?

Well, the CIA and John Brennan can't target American citizens.

He can't do that.

But Western allies, their intelligence agencies, don't operate under those rules.

They can target U.S.

citizens.

Oh, this is so bad.

This is a bad there for

the future.

Okay, good.

All right, Jason, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Get that audio and then come back next hour.

We'll just squeeze you in someplace next hour.

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All right,

welcome to the program.

There's a couple of things that I I want to hit.

Have you seen, Stu, the hydroxychloroquine story, the latest version of this story that Donald Trump has been taking.

And now,

what's his name, Cuomo, has come out, and he did a big deal on television about how this is irresponsible, and it's like drinking Clorox bleach.

I think Biden said that.

No, it's not like drinking Clorox bleach.

This is ridiculous.

But the Cuomo thing, I absolutely love because he's on saying there's no scientific proof.

It's not being used by doctors, blah, blah, blah.

And yet, because of his wife's crazy-ass doctor blog that she runs, do you remember?

Can you explain this doctor a little bit?

Yeah, Doctor Moon Love?

Yeah, that's pretty much her name.

So, yeah, Chris Cuomo's wife runs a lifestyle magazine/slash website.

That makes goop look sane.

Yeah, it's very goop-like.

If you know Gwyneth Paltrow's ridiculous site, it's that type of stuff.

It's really fringy sort of new age treatments and things that are not based in science at all.

I mean, and she embraces all of them.

Like, for, I mean, you know, we joke about the bleach thing.

She actually advocated bathing in bleach to help cure COVID-19.

Now, she gives the qualifier of only a certain amount in a large bathtub and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But she was doing the exact things Chris Cuomo is on TV criticizing.

And you might say, well, look, you know,

I know you say this about Tanya all the time.

You know, my wife's completely nuts and you can't trust anything that she says.

And a lot of people might say that about their wives.

Holy.

But I mean, like, you could disagree with your wife, right?

I'm, of course, kidding about Tanya, but

you can say that about your wife.

She totally sees the world differently than me, right?

Like, that would be a defensible position, except for the fact that this doctor, who is well known as a, you know, sort of holistic healer and has started all sorts of she has all sorts of wild views about you know changing the aura and your energy to cure your illness and all these things correct that is the doctor that not only treated Chris Cuomo's wife for COVID-19 but also treated Chris Cuomo for 19 for COVID-19 all sorts of things that are way beyond anything that Donald Trump has talked about or advocated for when it comes to a treatment.

Chris Cuomo was actually treated that way, and they're described on the site as treatments, which is, I don't even know if that's legal to give out

that type of advice.

All right, so he was taking quinine.

And if you remember our story about the origins of gin and tonic,

quinine

was the tonic, the tonic for malaria.

And it was, it's made from bark, I think,

and it fights malaria.

It's as old as time, all right?

The 1700s.

Well, she was making quinine from the bark because she's a naturalist.

But hydroxychloroquine is quinine, except it's made in a laboratory instead of with bark.

Okay,

so while he's on TV saying this is ridiculous, it has no property, there's no research that shows this is an help, he was taking the natural,

the

bark

quinine

where the president was just better living through pharmaceuticals.

It's the exact chemical compound just made with pharmaceuticals.

Instead of cutting down a tree, Chris, why would you cut down a tree?

Strip it of its bark.

Oh my gosh.

It's crazy.

These people have gone absolutely nuts and no one is willing to hold anyone accountable.

It's hard to imagine anyone in the media being more disingenuous than Chris Cuomo has been during this time.

I mean, he's out there criticizing other people for going outside while he's breaking a protocol without a mask while having COVID-19.

He's interacting with people outside of quarantine.

He's faking his return from quarantine on a news network that will not criticize him for doing so.

And this is really, I mean, when you look at her blog and you actually read it, she describes everything they did to treat themselves with this doctor who does not appear to be licensed, by the way, in the state of New York.

So that's a whole other element of this.

Because, in fact, I think it's only 16 states actually license quote-unquote doctors like her.

And so

it's not even available license in the state that they were being treated in.

But if you look at all of these descriptions, you know, she's talking about how the moon is the reason she's having temperature spikes because there's a full moon.

I mean, we're talking like way, way out there.

Of course, no.

Yeah.

Come on.

Everybody knows about the moon.

The moon, the gravitational pull, pulls the temperature from the core of your body closer to the skin.

Sure.

That's the way it works, obviously.

You know, again,

and I, you can believe all this stuff all you want.

You can treat yourself with bark all you need to.

That's fine.

But you can't come out and be critical of the president for treating, for having something that has far more scientific backing than anything they did for COVID-19.

And not only does Chris Cuomo not even

shouldn't be critical of Trump, he doesn't even disclose all this stuff as happening.

Like, he doesn't even say, look, my wife's nuts and we did a lot of crazy stuff.

I'm fine with that.

But this is, he should be honest.

Nothing like that.

He just denies it.

Of course, but it's amazing.

Because no one holds him accountable.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

We're so glad that you're here.

Let me talk to you a little bit about

some of the things that are going on around the country right now.

First of all, I have to just bring you up to speed.

We're going to try to get Craig T.

Nelson on with us.

I don't know if he will, and I have to apologize to him right up front.

Craig T.

Nelson, you know him, Stu.

He was the actor in

Coach.

For sure.

But many, many things over the years.

Had a great career.

Great.

I don't know if you remember this.

He was on with us one time, and he was, I don't remember what he was even on for.

We'll have to look for it, but

he was on this show one time, one time.

There's a story that just came out

from Hollywood, where they're admitting it, and they have no problem with it, that he was up for the role that the Married with Children guy has.

in Modern Family.

I mean, that's a huge role.

Huge role.

Huge role.

It was between him and the guy from Married with Children.

And

he was in the catbird seat.

Now, they said in this deal, he was asking too much money, and they had heard that he was a prima donna, that he was hard to work with, is what they said.

But then the article goes on to say, but then he was on the Glenn Beck radio program, and the producers heard him.

And this scared them.

They didn't want that kind of temperament on

the staff because he was questioning the government.

And they just thought that was a little too far.

And so, because of his appearance on this program, he lost that role on Modern Family.

Is that Craig?

I'm sorry, man.

That's incredible.

Why would you publish that if it wasn't?

It wasn't from, it was from a Hollywood rag.

It wasn't from a conservative.

They're proud of it.

They're fine.

Well, and the reason they're fine is because it sends a message to anyone else who might be.

And I don't even know that his...

I'm looking at some of the comments, and

he's talking about not having huge government giveaways, but he's not coming out as a hardcore conservative, I don't think.

I mean,

he may be.

But this is why this is intimidation for other people who might come out and admit that they have a view that might not align with Hollywood, right?

You lose gig.

I mean, that is, I mean,

what is the cost of that decision to him?

Multiple millions of dollars.

I mean, Ed O'Neill has, you know, he's won awards for that show.

I mean, you know, he's very good on it.

But

it's a make or break role.

It's a career-defining role.

I mean, like, we kept saying the married with children guy.

I mean, he's probably much better known as the modern family guy.

And he loses that role because he came on our show one time.

It looks like it was on CNN, too, the headline news show.

Well,

let's see if we can get Craig T.

Nelson on.

He probably will go into some sort of a seizure when they say, hey, Glenn Beck wants to know if you want to come on, but let's at least call him.

Let's run the rest of your career.

Just to apologize.

Yeah, just to apologize for that.

If he won't come on, Craig T.

Nelson.

I'm sorry, dude.

I had no idea that's wrong

that you would lose a job just because you're on a radio show or a TV show.

I mean,

that's crazy talk, absolute crazy talk.

All right,

let me switch gears.

What they just did with Craig T.

Nelson was exactly what Stu said.

Scare people into silence.

They want to make examples of people.

This is Sololinsky 101.

Make examples of people.

Well, the states are doing this all over the country right now.

And I want to talk talk to Lindsey Graham.

She is another salon owner

who is now being fined $14,000 for reopening despite her stay-at-home orders.

She has opened

her salon.

Welcome to the program, Lindsey Graham.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thank you for having me this morning.

All right.

So you're in Salem, Oregon.

And the question has got to be asked, why, Lindsay?

Why are you in Oregon?

Why are you in Oregon?

Yeah,

I'm starting to question that myself.

It's such a beautiful state, and it's just gone crazy.

All right, so they issued you a citation from OSHA

because they illegally deemed your independent contractors, the stylists in the salon, as your employees.

Tell me what happened.

Tell me what happened.

Well, the day before I even opened my salon, which was May 4th, I was in there cleaning and I received a visit from OSHA.

And he said it was a friendly visit to let me know what would happen if I choose to move forward opening my doors the next day.

What he told me was that he would get a warrant to come in and conduct an investigation and he would cite me $1,000 for violating the mandate.

So basically operating a hazardous workplace.

And if I didn't comply and shut my doors, he would issue me a $70,000 citation.

So I opened my doors regardless, and OSHA did indeed get a warrant, and they conducted an investigation, which I cooperated with.

I interviewed with them, I provided documents, and in the end, despite all of my truthful answers about my independent contractors, he decided at the end of the week that those independent contractors were employees and therefore I was operating a hazardous workplace for my employees, and he cited me $14,000

and gave me three days to close my doors.

But

it's pretty easy to know if these are contractors or employees.

I mean,

your records would show that.

Yes, there's a very, very definite and clear difference.

And like I said, I was very truthful because I knew that they were independent contractors and there was no way they could be deemed employees.

So it'll be interesting in court to see how they decided they were employees.

They're citing examples like if I have a dress code or if I allow them to use the same scheduling system, then they become employees,

which is ridiculous

to insinuate, yeah, that I can't have rules in my salon for my independent contractors.

And if I do, that the state can decide that they're employees, which changes my entire business structure.

So this is alarming for salons around the United States

that they're going to try to do this.

So Lindsay, why are they doing this to you, do you think?

What's happening?

I'm positive that they're using every possible government organization to try to bully and intimidate me into shutting my doors.

They have used

OSHA, Health Licensing Office, CPS, Child Protective Services, if you can believe it.

They've used the city of Salem to threaten.

How, how, how, wait, wait, wait, wait.

How were they using CPS?

So, I opened my doors to my salon on May 5th, and on May 8th, Child Protective Services showed up at my home when I was at work to question my home about a, quote, claim that my household was endangering my children.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

Lindsay, how are you so calm about this?

I'm not.

I'm livid, and I've already cried and bawled and screamed, and

I have no words for the tactics that the government's using against me, but I've had time to kind of adjust my thinking and

come up with a plan of attack or defense even, if you will.

I'm not calm, but I have a really great team of attorneys, and we are going to tackle this head-on because it's very, very clear that there is bullying and intimidation by the government directed at me and my family and my business.

I mean, you come after my business.

That's one thing.

You come after my family.

Oh, my gosh, I would lose my mind i'd lose my mind um so this is you think this is being coordinated from the governor's office

uh i do yes i really do um and that there's been some things that have come to light that can back that theory up uh very prominently and so we are confident that there is there are higher ups that are conducting these pulling these strings directed at me can you can you tell us any of those things that have come up

I don't believe I can.

My attorney found them yesterday,

but I think eventually they will come to light.

They'll come to light in court.

But

we are shocked at some of the things that we're finding out that have been done.

So

I would encourage you to stay tuned.

It's going to be interesting.

Why did you open up in the first place?

Why don't you just go along to get along?

Why don't you just

have loved to have done that, but I also would have loved to have kept my home and kept my businesses and kept

the life that I've worked 15 years for.

My husband and I own six businesses, and

I actually took four weeks off for maternity leave before the quarantine.

And so we had not budgeted for a government shutdown.

No one has budgeted for a government shutdown.

And at the four-week mark, I said,

listen, we're going to lose these businesses.

We're choosing to pay our mortgage instead of the leases on these.

The government hasn't come through with their loans and their grants and their unemployment money that we don't want anyway.

We want to work and we want to run our businesses the good old-fashioned American way.

We're hard workers.

And at four weeks, I said, we can't survive this if I don't go back to work.

And we make most of our income

for me being a hairstylist and taking clients and having my salon open.

And honestly, I wanted my stylists that work there to be able to come come in and run their business and do their clients.

So I said, ladies, I'm doing this.

And if you want to join me,

let's make a living because

we're all going to lose everything we've worked for if we don't.

And so that was the decision I made.

And I actually didn't mean for it to go public.

I shared a story about it in a Facebook group.

And

I didn't realize it was a public group, and it started getting shared.

So I went, uh-oh, well, this is making the news now, so I guess I have to do it.

Right.

I have to do it.

Do you think

is the town supportive of you at all?

I'm really disappointed in Oregonians.

They are less supportive of me than the entire nation is.

When this went local,

I had to endure quite a bit of verbal and keyboard abuse.

You got to get out of there.

You got to get out of there

sincerely.

You got to come to Texas.

Our governor,

they put a, in Texas, in Dallas, they put a salon owner in jail, and

our governor went nuts, and she's out of jail, and we're not arresting anybody anymore.

I mean, that's what you need.

This governor is,

I mean, your whole state's out of control.

Right.

All we're asking for is a little support.

I don't understand how that's a controversial or political issue to be able to earn your living.

So I'm very confused why this is such an uproar that I needed to work and provide for my family.

It's very interesting to watch.

But I'm very thankful the nation has rallied behind me.

I'm getting positive, encouraging messages and prayers from all over America, and I am brought to tears most days from the support.

So, very thankful for that.

That's great.

Lindsay, thank you so much for talking to us.

We're going to follow your story.

Please stay in touch with us.

Our producers will stay in touch with you, but we want to know what's going on.

And if there's any way we can help you,

we will absolutely stand with you.

So, thank you so much, Lindsay.

Thank you so much.

God bless.

You bet.

Tonight, this is another Rosa Parks.

And there's going to be a lot of people on the left.

How dare you?

What was Rosa Parks?

What was she doing?

She just wanted to ride a bus.

No big deal.

Just ride a bus.

I just,

look,

the seats are empty here.

If somebody...

If somebody who's white comes in and they want to sit down, I'll even get up.

But there's nobody on the bus.

I'll sit here.

That wasn't good enough.

That's so simple.

It's the same thing here.

This is somebody saying, look, I've got to put food on my table.

I've got to put food on my table.

And I'll do all of your little masks things and everything else.

I'll do all that.

But I'm going to go back to work because I'm going to lose everything I have.

And so are all the people that work around me and work with me.

So I want to do that.

That's a right.

That is a right.

You have a right to feed yourself.

You have a right to be able to pursue your happiness.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, the intent of the underlying policy is a lot different, but when you talk about the base need here, this is the need to,

the most basic need you can have.

I need to be able to feed my family.

People came here because they could be free to chart their own course.

Anything that stands in the way of doing that

is absolutely beyond reason when you're talking about something like the coronavirus.

Flatten the curve.

We flatten the curve.

Open the country back up.

And you know what's amazing?

If this was Donald Trump doing to this, the woman,

if she was

having feds come in and sick on her, because of Donald Trump, the press would be all over it.

But because it's an Oregon governor and because it's a Democrat, oh, no, no, everything is fine.

This is obscene.

It's a new civil rights movement, and I want you to watch tonight.

We have a whole

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Enough is enough.

I am so tired of hearing from these states about how bad we are and how we're not giving them enough money and how they got to keep the economy closed.

You want more money?

Open your economy.

Open your economy.

California, the governor has now just said, We need more money.

And if we don't get this federal help, I want to quote: I hope Americans will consider this the next time they want to salute and celebrate our heroes, our first responders, our police officers and firefighters, consider the fact that they're going to be the first ones who will be laid off by the cities and counties of California.

You know, when you stop giving money to illegal aliens, maybe

I'll listen a little bit, but probably not.

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Good luck to you.

You're doing a great job in letting all the criminals out.

I'm not paying a dime for you, California.

You've been insane since about 1976.

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Welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

Stephen Moore is joining us.

He's a fellow of the Heritage Foundation, senior economic contributor with Freedom Works.

And he is part of a new coalition.

By the way, he still is advising the Trump administration on economics, and Trump wanted him to be our Fed chair.

Would have loved that.

But he's also part of a coalition now called Save Our Country.

And And Stephen is here to talk about what's happening in the country and

how this organization can help.

Stephen, how are you?

Hi, Glad and good to be with you.

By the way, you are spot-on correct.

You know, this bill to keep providing money to the states and cities, this is all this is.

You are so right about this.

It's just enabling.

We're enabling these states and cities to stay closed.

The worst thing we could do right now is to encourage them to do that.

And I want to say one other thing because I feel so passionately about it.

You are so correct about Governor Newsom in California.

What he said the other day was: this is like hostage-taking, right?

We're going to shut down the health care system, we're going to shut down police and fire, we're not going to do anything about the pensions, we're not going to do anything about the aid of the illegal immigrants, we're not going to do anything about all of the other waste

in the California budget.

We're going to cut the things that the people depend on most.

And Washington, Donald Trump never fall for that kind of hostage taking.

And the people in California should be outraged by that kind of policy.

So, Stephen, there are people all over the country.

I just talked to another woman.

Her name is Lindsey Graham, not related.

She's up in Oregon.

She had

OSHA,

the business licensing, the health department, and the Department of Child Protection Services show up at her house because she opened her salon.

This is

way out of control.

I've heard about this story.

It's crazy.

It is, you know, it's Orwellian.

It's Orwellian.

I feel like sometimes we're living in the old Soviet Union right now.

And the liberals.

I do too.

I do too.

Whatever happened to liberals who used to care about the civil liberties of people and constitutional rights of people?

And I am so outraged by that as well.

We have to take our country back.

We have to allow people to make their own decisions, not have politicians make decisions for them.

Incidentally, I just finished a study, Glenn,

that shows that if we were to pass anything close to the new Pelosi $3 trillion bill, which also is an abomination for her to use a health emergency to

opportunistically to pass all this stuff that has nothing to do with health, National Endowment for the Arts and Environmental Justice Grants and bailouts of the Illinois pension.

But we're finding that if they were to pass anything like that bill, the federal United States government today would be larger than the entire private sector of America.

Every business, every worker output is

larger than government.

That's 52% of GDP.

Even socialist countries don't have governments that big.

We have got to stop the spending.

The idea that another spending bill is going to help the economy, no, Glenn, the spending bills that Congress is passing are hurting the economy, economy, not helping them, especially when you're paying people in 31 states more money not to work than to get a job.

Oh, it's ridiculous.

So, Stephen, first of all, we said we were going to flatten the curve, and we're all for that.

Let's not stress out our hospitals, et cetera, et cetera.

We're way past that now.

And it's very clear to at least half the country that

this is benefiting those who want big government and oppressive sort of regulation.

Now, the the President went the other way yesterday.

Tell me about his Bill of Rights.

Well, this is great.

He basically passed a sweeping deregulation plan that

is going to help the economy a lot.

And

this is

in addition to the fact that he also wants to the one thing I feel, and I've talked to the President about this, he's all fully on board this.

You know, our mutual fund Lauper loves this idea.

Steve Forbes loves the idea of suspending the payroll tax for the rest of the year.

This would actually help every single business.

Every single small business in America would get a 7.5% reduction in their payroll costs.

You know that

yourself.

You're a small business, a medium-sized businessman yourself.

Huge.

You have a

seven.

Sorry?

Yeah, the investment that you could make if you were doing well or the money you could save if you were on the line would be enormous.

It's the best.

It's the only thing, really that I think the government should have done in the first place.

This would put 7.5% even for a minimum wage worker.

I thought Nancy Pelosi cared so much about low-income workers.

They would have immediately, immediately, starting May 15th, a 7.5% increase in their pay.

Every worker would have 7.5% rise.

That would encourage work.

It would allow them to put that money right on Main Street.

And the thing we've got to get all your listeners, all the people around the country saying is don't give the money to the politicians.

Pelosi wants to give it to mayors and governments.

Give it right to the people.

Give it right to the businesses.

They're the ones who produce.

Right.

So, Stephen, the regulatory Bill of Rights that he put in an executive order yesterday, what is this going to do exactly?

It's going to require these agencies to review all of their regulations, and if they don't pass muster, to suspend them.

You know, Trump rebuilt the economy.

People forget just two months ago, we had the best economy in 30 years.

And how did that happen?

Well, you know, I had a small part in helping get that tax bill passed, which was a phenomenal success.

And then

we cut the regulations, we cut the red tape, we let businesses do their thing.

And my God, it's amazing.

Two months ago, we had six and a half million surplus jobs in this country.

Now we have 35 million people unemployed.

I got to say this, God, I think that history books are going to look back at what we've done in the last three months, and

it's going to be nearly unanimous.

It was the greatest, one of the greatest mistakes our nation has ever made.

Oh, I agree 110%.

And I want to switch gears here with you.

I'm going to take a quick break and then come back, but I want to switch gears on this.

Not only is it the greatest mistake, it is also the greatest opportunity.

Now, the left is using this for an opportunity to reshape the world and into a more draconian sort of rule all around the world.

But I think if we are not pushing back with our own agenda, and that is more America, not less, more to the people, not less.

Give people back their rights to be free and to create, it could be also the biggest mistake and the biggest opportunity.

Because I think we could, if we're smart, and then Donald Trump becomes the steamroller that I know he can be, this thing could just take right back off again.

But it's going to take real opening of

some of these regulations and taxes to spur it on.

So let me switch from that now to

there is also going to be remembered a group of people that I think are civil rights leaders.

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And I've been talking about it for a while, and it's come in a different package.

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Now, David Lauder from Reuters, also

the geniuses at Time magazine that are so good that they don't even have a magazine left anymore.

Lysandra Villa, she wrote for Time Magazine how some anti-quarantine protests are now being promoted by national players with ties to Trump.

I'd like to go back and see all of the times that the

national papers in Time Magazine talked about how Martin Luther King was actually funded in large part by the labor unions.

It's why his

job, his justice march to Washington, D.C.

was for jobs and justice.

Where was that in his dream speech?

Where were the labor unions?

They were behind it.

It takes money to do things like this, but that doesn't mean that they're controlling things.

And if they ever start to control you, you call me and I'll expose them.

What is exactly that you're doing, Stephen Moore?

Is Stephen there?

Sorry, I had mute on there for a second.

Oh, there you are.

Okay, there you go.

We put a coalition of the major conservative groups in the country,

our little group, Committee to Unleashed Prosperity, which is Laffer and me and Forbes and others.

And then we've got Freedom Works, and you know Freedom Works, obviously.

You work with

ALEC, which is the state legislative group.

We've got CMP.

And then we've got all these incredible national conservative leaders, everybody from Ed Meese to Ed Fulner to Newt Gingrich to former Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker,

Art Laugher, Steve Forbes, an amazing group of people.

And the agenda is simple.

Number one, open up the economy.

It's really simple.

We can't have a society.

We can't function if we don't have people producing things.

That is a road to total disaster if we don't.

And the good news is we're making great progress on that.

I'm actually getting somewhat optimistic.

We have 28 states that are up and running.

We need people like you, Glenn, to tell the story of what's happening in Georgia, for example.

Remember when Governor Kemp opened up the economy?

Remember what the left said?

He has blood on his hands.

Oh, yeah.

Murdering his own citizens.

Georgia has one of the fastest reduction in death rates and hospitalizations.

Have you read that in the media?

No, I haven't, but I've read it, but not in the mainstream media.

Yeah, no, I mean, don't you think they might have, you know, if these were stand-up people, they might apologize?

No.

There's no apologies, Governor State.

No,

but Georgia's apologies.

They have their agenda and they're going for it.

Yeah.

So George is a great story.

Florida.

How about Ron DeSantis and Florida?

He's done an amazing job.

And this is the amazing thing.

Florida and New York, Florida, a red state, New York, a blue state, Florida with Ron DeSantis, Democrat state, New York with Cuomo.

Florida actually has a higher population than New York does, but New York has 50 times more cases.

50 times more.

And yet the left holds up Cuomo as the star.

He's the superstar governor.

Yeah.

Half their cases in the United States are in New York, and they hold him up as a success.

Meanwhile, DeSantis, and by the way, he has more older people too.

Florida has a lot of senior citizens.

He's done an amazing job, kept the nursing up.

Those stories aren't getting out there.

My point is, Glenn, we can open up this economy and do it in a way that's safe for our citizens.

I refuse.

I refuse to surrender some kind of moral high ground to the left because they say, oh, we want want to keep the economy shut down until every single life is saved.

Meanwhile, we got people suffering from depression, we got people committing suicide, we got people on alcoholism, drug abuse, children.

You have farmers.

You have farmers in California.

I just talked to

the mayor of a small town, farming community, it's Atwood, California, yesterday.

He's like,

this is going to end in disaster, absolute disaster.

He went against the governor's rules and are opening it up because they have common sense.

They're farmers.

And they're opening things up.

We people will starve to death because of this.

They will starve to death.

We have to have an economy.

Yes.

Yeah.

And they say, oh, you want to put people like you and Glenn Beck want to put greed and profits over people's lives.

No.

When you see 40%, did you see that statistic?

40% of people will make less than $40,000.

These are low-income and working-class Americans.

40% have lost their jobs.

I thought liberals cared about working-class Americans.

And Glenn, I don't care how many of these trillion-dollar bills that Matthew Pelosi

wants to pass.

At some point, if people aren't producing, if they're not working, if you don't have food,

you're right.

You're not going to have food in the grocery stores.

So, Stephen, I mean, I think this is intentional.

They do care about the poor, but only when they are subservient to them, when they have to get their

heroin or their money from the government.

We are destroying the small businesses, which in the last

great recession, those small businesses

created 80% of all new jobs.

80%.

How is the small businessman going to survive?

Are you seeing anything on this that is showing any positive signs?

The only thing that

can save these small businessmen and women, and you know me, I think you and I think alike.

I mean, the small businessmen and women who take the risk, put their whole, everything they've got, years of their life, every penny of savings they have into building the business.

And then government comes along and then within weeks,

they're telling me, if I don't get revenues or customers in the door in the next week or two, I'm out of business.

I'll have to sell my assets.

And once a business folds, it cannot reopen.

It's not like Lazarus.

It doesn't come back from the dead.

And so that is my greatest fear, is that so many of these great businesses, and some of the people call me, they said, I put my whole life into this.

And they literally have kids.

They're crying.

It's like when you have a business and you run it and you put your whole life into it, it's like losing a child.

It really is.

I mean, it's like

a family member.

And we're seeing millions of small businesses that are teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.

And the left says, oh, just keep them shut down for another two or three months.

That's just fine.

Did you see in Los Angeles, the dungeon cap mayor there wants to keep the city of Los Angeles shut down for three more months?

You're going to have rioting in the streets.

Stephen Moore, how can people get a hold of the SOS?

Am I the one who's losing my mind, Glenn?

I mean, no, you're not.

You're not.

You're not.

You're not.

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Thank you very much, Stephen Moore.

We'll talk again.

Back in just a second.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

All right.

Let me talk to you about what Stephen was saying here.

We are on the edge.

We've got to open back up.

We've got to get moving again.

And may I say, if you have money, you have to be somebody who retains money.

The big guys are, they're all gonna, they're all gonna have their money, they're all gonna have their money.

George Soros isn't gonna worry about it.

Um, Goldman Sachs,

I think it's City and Chase or JP Morgan have come out in the last couple of months and said they believe gold's going to be at $3,000 an ounce.

If that's true,

the world is insane in the next 12 to 24 months.

Insane.

It has to be for gold to jump like that.

I hope to God they're wrong, but I don't buy gold as an investment.

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Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

Let me give you a story on Ukraine that's just breaking now.

The infamous story of Joe Biden's effort to force the firing of Ukraine's chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken taken a new legal twist in Kiev or Kiev, just as the former vice president is sewing up his presidential nomination in America.

In Kiev last month, District Court Judge

S.J.

Volk ordered the country's law enforcement services to formally list the fire prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as a victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S.

Vice President Joe Biden, according to an official English English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News.

The court has previously ordered the Prosecutor General's Office and the State Bureau of Investigation in February to investigate Shokin's claims that he was fired in spring 2016 under pressure from Biden because he was investigating Burisma holdings.

The court ruled that there is now adequate evidence to investigate his claims, that Biden pressured the then President Petro Poroshenko,

including a threat to withhold a billion dollars in loan guarantees.

But when the law enforcement agencies opened the probe, they refused to name Biden as the alleged perpetrator of the crime, instead listing the potential defendant as an unnamed American.

Volk

ruled that anonymous listing was improper and ordered the law enforcement agencies to formally name Joe Biden

as the accused perpetrator.

This is stunning.

Now,

there is audio of this, and we bring Jason Battrill back in.

He is our chief researcher.

He has been on this Ukraine story now with me for, what, almost a year and a half.

And we have the audio.

Do you want to set this up, Jason?

Yeah, so I'm not sure which, because there's multiple clips, but I think that this clip that we're about to play here is Joe Biden and Proshchenko right as they were discussing, right after Joe Biden said, hey, can you get this prosecutor Shokin fired for me?

And Proshenko calls Joe Biden back up and he says this.

But before Vice President Biden comes, I just wanted to try to urge you

to see

if there's a way to get by this problem of replacing the Prosecutor General.

You know,

John Kerry.

Because from our perception, he's blocked the the cleanup of the Prosecutor General's office.

And

I know the Vice President is very concerned about it.

And I think it'd be good to try to have some resolution of that before the Vice President comes.

Yesterday, I met

with the General Prosecutor Shoto.

And in spite of the fact that we didn't have any corruption charges, we don't have any information about

him doing something wrong.

I especially asked him, no, it was the day before yesterday, I especially asked him

to resign

in

as his

position as a state

person

and

despite the fact that he has a support in the power.

And as a finish of my

meeting with him,

he promised me

to give me the statement on resignation.

And one hour ago, he brought me the

written

statement of his resignation.

Great.

And this is my second step for keeping my promises.

I agree.

Hey, Mr.

President Joe Biden, how are you?

Very well indeed.

As usual when I hear your voice.

Thank you.

Well you are doing very well.

Congratulations on

getting the new Prosecutor General.

I know there's a lot more that has to be done but

I really think that's I think that's good and I understand you're working with a Rod in the coming days on a number of additional

laws to secure the IMF.

But congratulations on installing the new Prosecutor General.

It's going to be critical for him to work quickly to repair the damage Shokin did.

And I'm a man of my word.

And that now that the new Prosecutor General is in place, we're ready to move forward in signing that new $1 billion loan guarantee.

Jeez.

Holy cow.

That's definitely

both of them.

There's no question.

That's both of their voices.

No question.

Oh, yeah.

And

there is Shokin saying, we have no evidence of any wrongdoing.

There are no charges against him.

So when Biden said everybody knew, everybody knew, well, the president of the country that was friendly to you guys, this is not the current guy, this is the old guy that was friendly to Hillary and Obama and totally corrupt.

He even said,

there is no evidence on that, but I'm going to do it as a favor to you so I can keep my promises.

Holy cow.

Is that kind of important?

Little bit.

Little bit.

And

to go off of what Stu was just saying, the Washington Post is reporting on this as if it's verified.

I've reached out to them to say if anyone off the record has verified the legitimacy.

It seems very authentic.

We just haven't verified it yet.

I actually, right now, I just missed a call from one of my sources in Ukraine, who I'm going to call back as soon as I get off with you.

We're still trying to figure this out.

But this sounds like, to me, it sounds like an intercept.

Now, if you listen to the entire audio, it's frightening because they say you hear the White House operator, you hear many times are saying, I'm calling from Air Force 2 at the moment.

I hope the call doesn't get dropped.

It's insane.

This appears to be an international.

I don't think this is an intercept.

I don't think it is.

I really don't.

I think this is

Ukrainian.

I mean, it is not.

He's clear.

That's being recorded on his end,

on the President Poroshenko's end.

That sounds like a recording from his room.

Yeah, he's got it on speaker.

Yeah, this is them.

This is from Ukraine.

The thing with...

You don't think so?

Well,

it's very suspect because of the people that released this.

His name is Andrei Durkach, and he's a Ukrainian member of parliament.

He's very, very pro-Russia.

Very, very pro-Russia.

His dad was in the KGB.

He actually learned at a KGB university himself when he was younger.

And now he represents a block within Ukraine that's very, very pro-Russian.

Now, many people will say, this is important to know, because many people will say, oh, it's just Putin trying to give Trump another leg up.

That's total bull.

This has nothing to do with U.S.

politics.

The only thing this has to do is Ukrainian politics and the Western media.

So listen, when we talked to, who is that guy that was

part of the

AG up over there?

And then he went to work for the embassy.

Remember the Ukrainian guy?

What was his name?

Andrei Telashenko.

Okay, so Telashenko said to me, and I thought this was interesting, he said, you know, we thought we had,

we were going to have freedom.

And you guys are just doing the same thing to us that Russia was doing.

And I think this is a Russian leak, but not meant for the United States.

Instead, meant for the Ukrainians, because the Ukrainians will see how corrupt we were and what we were doing.

And if we don't clean it up here,

any hope that we have that the Ukrainian people would be pro-American and

ally with us, which we need, otherwise they go to the Russians.

If the Ukrainians say there's no difference between Vladimir Putin and the United States of America, we're toast.

We're toast.

And that's the message that the Ukrainians are getting.

Look at this other, look at this other story.

This one one comes from

the

let me see if I can get it.

The Kiev Post, okay?

Ukraine's global voice.

What do you know about the Kiev Post?

Do you know anything about

balanced one way or another?

I've seen them

very, very kind of ostrich head in the sand on a lot of this stuff in the past.

So here's what they just

released more of this audio.

And the headline is, Ukrainian MP releases Biden-Poroshenko call recordings and spouts absurd conspiracy theory.

Now, the recordings that they have, that they are releasing, that we haven't played for you yet, but we will tomorrow,

are the

conversations that they allege

between Biden and George Soros

and poroshenko and how soros and biden were working together with the united states to exert and listen to this exerted undue influence over the ukrainian government under poroshenko so what's happening is this is local politics this is ukrainian politics but they are using our bad things

to turn people against us

amazing and

there's a chance you think it has a chance?

Absolutely.

I mean, we've already exposed a lot of this

when you did Democrats Hydra.

I mean, this is just further, you know,

this is further evidence.

Verification.

Verification.

We've shown you the documents.

They're out there.

There is one other story that you need to know.

This is coming from the Washington Examiner.

Democrats on the Homeland Security Committee are urging their Republican counterparts to please prioritize the coronavirus pandemic over their investigation related to Hunter and Joe Biden and Burisma holdings in Ukraine.

Oh my gosh.

Tuesday, in a letter to Senator Ron Johnson, the Wisconsin Republican who heads the committee, Democrats requested an immediate hearing to examine the federal government's response to the pandemic, which has now killed over 90,000 people and affected blah, blah, blah.

This pandemic presents an ongoing threat to our national and economic security, and we're continuing to face dire warnings from public health officials.

Please, our committee has a responsibility to ask tough questions on the pandemic, pandemic response, and to get answers for the American people.

Unbelievable, the gall of these people to now use the pandemic to say, hey, hey, hey, what are you doing?

Wasn't that what we were saying the whole time about Trump?

What are you doing?

Why are you spending all this money?

Get back to work with the American people.

Now that they're being exposed and all of this is being verified,

now they're all of a sudden, hey, let's not have hearings.

Let's not.

That's

bipartisan.

Why aren't we just being so bipartisan?

Jason, thank you so much.

And we'll have a report, hopefully, from you tomorrow with a little bit more on these recordings and

show you the latest on

Barack Obama, George Soros, and Joe Biden.

It's not going to end well.

It's just not going to end well.

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I just, I have to give you a story here that boggles my mind.

I am fascinated by science and what we don't know.

I want to give you a story, but I want to start with the sources on this story are NASA,

the new scientist,

and space.com, also nature.

So

all pretty good, credible sources.

Scientists have discovered

on a NASA-sponsored research group, the Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna, which, I mean, we've won many awards for our documentaries on that.

They had a $35 million project in 2003 to look for and study ghostly particles that fill the universe.

Sounds like a scam to me.

The project uses a specifically made balloon that detects radio waves emitted when high-energy neutrinos interact in the

in the Antarctic ice shelf.

Well, I mean, who doesn't want to know what those space neutrinos are doing?

You know what I mean?

According to the new scientist, this balloon that holds an antenna would go up for a month and scan thousands of miles of Antarctic air, looking for these energy particles that would be coming down from space and then hitting the Antarctic shelf.

And the reason why they picked Antarctica is because of the cold, dry air and very little, if any, radio signals to distort any findings.

They said there was a constant wind of high energy particles coming from outer space, but they couldn't pick any of them up.

So they looked at these two flights over two years

and they found these little bursts or these distortions, but they didn't look into them.

There was nothing else.

And they're like, what is happening?

So they decided to go up on the third flight and they decided to look over the data from the previous flights, specifically at the random noises it recorded.

What they discovered, according to New Scientist, was something impossible.

The signal is not coming from space, but rather it's coming up from the ground.

And I'm quoting the scientists now.

Quote, that means these particles are traveling back in time and could be evidence of a parallel universe.

You know, a universe where my dog is not barking behind me.

Okay.

They say this may be evident.

They have no other explanation.

They said, as crazy as it sounds,

if that's the only explanation that we have left, that must be the explanation.

That doesn't mean that the multiverse is real, but it looks like scientists are now looking at that going, yeah, it might be.

Where left is right, and right is left, up is down, and time goes backwards.