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Hello, America, and welcome to Tuesday.

So glad that you're here today.

We've got a lot to discuss.

Let me just get this out because I know you have a lot of fans in the audience, fans of Ravi Zacharias.

He passed away yesterday, last night, from cancer.

He had been struggling and was in great, great pain.

He is with the Lord today.

Amen and hallelujah.

We have a lot of good news to share with you, and I think we're going to start New Jersey, but there are sheriffs now starting to step up.

We've told you for years, sheriffs are the key.

to your liberty.

Sheriffs are stepping up, but we also have a mayor in California who's going to be joining us today

who has made his city a sanctuary city, a sanctuary for businesses.

You gotta love this.

That's coming up also.

Something you really need to watch for, and it is everywhere.

It is

the new normal.

We'll explain.

And yes, spooky dude is involved.

We do that in one minute.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So I am really glad to hear this.

The housing market is on fire right now, and I don't mean like burning itself down to the ground.

A little ray of sunshine right now.

This could be it.

It shows signs now, the housing market, that it is stable and actually doing well in some areas.

I'm guessing that, and if I was

selling my house in California,

you got to believe it's going to go well for me, huh?

No, I don't think so.

I really don't think so.

Here's the thing.

We have Democrats and their policies largely to thank for the housing market doing well.

Wait a minute.

Yeah, that's because people are moving from these oppressive states.

And they're

moving to warmer states for one thing.

And the warmth is being provided by something we like to call the Bill of Rights.

Yes, but California

said the Bill of Rights on fire, and we're quite warm from that.

Large city areas have become so draconian that people are moving.

L.A.'s lockdown may not last three months after all, but who knows?

People are packing up.

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Hey, I have to just play this audio because

it was,

you know, I'd like to say sometimes there's victory in the small things but this is not a small thing this is happening in New Jersey a cop showed up to a gym that was opening its doors against the governor's order and the cop showed up and everybody in the crowd started to say whoa whoa whoa whoa you know you don't have let me quote you have the right to refuse unconstitutional orders freedom good to see Mel Gibson was there you swore to protect our rights.

That's when the cop put his hand up, like, listen, listen to me.

Please, don't say anymore.

Don't say anything.

You're going to feel really bad when you hear.

Just listen to me.

And here's what he said.

Speak your peace.

Don't worry about it.

We are and we're only here for everybody's safety today.

We plan for the worst, hope for the best, and it seems like that's what we have out here today.

Formally, you are all in violation of the executive order.

On that note?

On that note?

Nothing.

Have a good day, everybody.

Be careful.

Thank you.

You gotta love these cops.

You know what I wanted in this moment?

I wanted Al Michaels to say, Do you believe in miracles?

I mean, it was that moment.

The countdown going on right now.

Burrow, up to Shoe.

Bunch.

And with that, have a nice day.

I mean,

it was that moment last night where America came roaring back, and they're not alone.

Let me give you this one.

This was posted by the sheriff of the second most densely populated county in Illinois.

He says the governor has trampled on his First Amendment rights.

Now, listen to this.

This is what he posted on Facebook.

I feel that my own First Amendment constitutional right to free speech has been completely trampled on by a governor who has threatened my office's reimbursement and grant funds as a tool to force me not to speak.

I just can't do it anymore.

I stand with our citizens and our businesses of DuPage County who have offered no trouble nor any resistance to any rule we have put upon them, no matter how strange.

In fact, they have communally helped support us during this pandemic with resources and physical help.

Law enforcement officers are not stormtroopers, we are peacekeepers.

We can reopen responsibly and with proper care.

We're not just going to open with no precautions, but science suggests a potentially different route.

Did we all say from the beginning that we would follow science to the correct end?

This is not the time to introduce a society, a fear, into our society by threatening Class A misdemeanors, but instead it's time to assist our citizens and businesses to get back on their feet.

I feel DuPage County is ready to reopen responsibly before everything is gone.

And I will not victimize lawful residents of DuPage County trying to put food on their children's table.

Amen.

Do you believe in miracles?

Yes.

Yes.

Now, I want to take you and shift gears here and show you something called the degrowth movement.

The The degrowth

movement was actually a flashback back to the late 60s and early 70s.

Alright man, time of job smoking and free love.

Yeah,

and that's probably all you're going to be able to do if this degrowth movement actually takes flight.

Now, yes, Spooky Dude does have a role in this.

Spooky Dude said some spooky things overseas that nobody seems to be caring about.

But I wanted to bring you the news of Spoogie Dude today.

But first,

let me tell you what the growth movement is.

This is

a movement that believes that man has destroyed the planet.

It's all about climate change.

And the only way to save the planet is for the entire world to stop working.

The agenda is to shut down industrial production and industries like fossil fuels, automobiles, airlines, anything that will contribute to global warming.

COVID-19 and the economy lockdown is now seen as a useful trial run.

I want to give you something that this, you know, when I just told you about the

cop up in New Jersey, let me tell you something that the The owner of that gym said after the cop left.

He was giving an interview and he said,

We're reopening early to fight for our rights.

The government has failed at protecting our rights and is failing at protecting our health.

He said, What we're proposing is an organized, peaceful reopening of the state, not just our business.

Now, listen to this.

We truly believe if we don't do this, in the end, we will have zero rights and no say in what happens.

I believe him to be a prophet of our time.

Yes, a musclehead, a prophet of our time.

He is right.

If we don't, they are measuring us.

Now, not everybody, no, but not everybody in the government is doing this, but the left and the degrowth movement is.

They are measuring us to see how much they can get away with.

Now, a professor at the University of Tasmania, who knew that was a real place beyond the Bugs Bunny world,

said, we can draw many lessons and opportunities.

Listen to this.

we can draw many lessons and opportunities from the current health crisis when tackling planetary warming.

So they are measuring.

A former high-ranking climate advisor to Obama, Jason Bordoff, wrote in Foreign Policy, quote, COVID-19 may deliver some short-term climate benefits by curbing energy use or even long-term benefits if economic stimulus is linked to climate goals.

But he adds, the benefits from the pandemic in terms of less carbon emissions are likely to be fleeting and negligible.

So the I want to give you I want to tell you degrowth

as defined by the proponents a political economic and social movement based on ecological economics anti-consumerism and anti-capitalism

So we are looking to we're looking at people that want to destroy capitalism consumerism so you know consumerism out of control everything out of control too far one way or the other or the other is bad all right it's all it's all bad too much aspirin for a headache will kill you too much of anything or not enough of something will also kill you capitalism has its problems consumerism has its problems but without it we die

The philosophy started in the 1960s and 70s and was really discredited.

It was the people that said, you know, oh, we're not going to be able to keep up with the food.

There's not enough land on planet Earth to grow enough food.

How's that working out for you?

We'll all be dead by 1977.

Really?

Because I've seen, you know, this death thing is pretty good because

apparently I've been dead since 77 and it feels great.

So let me give you some of the things that you're seeing now, and I need you to tie them in to the degrowth movement.

You need to understand these are not just offshoots, just one-offs.

Here's Alexandria Casio-Cortez.

She deleted a tweet celebrating a crash in oil prices.

She said, quote, you absolutely love to see it.

Do you?

Do you know what drilling for oil has done?

Do you know that we wouldn't have any plastics?

We wouldn't have many of our pharmaceuticals.

We wouldn't have many of our foods.

We wouldn't have rubber.

It goes on and on and on.

The oil for sewing machines.

Where are we going to go start going for whale blubber again?

Petrochemicals are essential to a civilized way of life.

Now, when you come up with something to replace it, I'm all for it.

But right now, petrochemicals are critical.

If we lose petrochemicals, if we lose oil, you lose your way of life.

Greta Thurnberg, the

elementary school dropout, said that she is really excited because there's a new way forward.

CNN has interviewed the experts who say the lockdown just isn't enough.

We have to keep doing this and even more for the next 30 years if we're going to bend the curve

of greenhouse gases and climate change.

So we have to do this and more.

Robert Redford has come out with his son and said this scourge of COVID-19 has revealed that we can change the world.

There's all kinds of articles.

I'm going to post all of this.

I think we're going to probably do a special on this, but I just want to go through some of the audio that you are going to be hearing more and more.

Here's Joe Biden on coronavirus as an opportunity.

Listen.

We have an opportunity now to take in a recovery act, a real recovery.

We can fundamentally change the science relating to global warming.

Wow, we can fundamentally change the science related to global warming.

If he wasn't senile, I would pounce on that.

But what he's saying is we can fundamentally now change America, fundamentally transform America and the world.

Here's CNN saying saying the coronavirus was caused not by China, but by something else.

Listen to this.

And there seems to be this perception that maybe the virus has helped humanity buy some time when it comes to global warming.

What's wrong with that assumption?

We'd have to keep doing this even more and do it for the next 30 years to really begin to bend the curve on the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Virologists for years tried to warn us that an invisible enemy would come out of the jungles if we just kept cutting all of them down.

And they were right.

So if any good can come of this, Allison, maybe it's an understanding that the climatologists who are warning about...

Stop.

Can you just,

did you hear that?

It's not China.

It's not us collecting bats or anything else.

It's the Amazon.

We cut down too many trees in the Amazon, and that's what caused the coronavirus.

Here's Chris Hayes on restructuring for climate change.

They're talking about reopening now, and they've announced this ambitious scheme to reduce the car use after lockdown, which thought was interesting.

They're going to have 22 miles of streets that are going to be transformed over the summer.

They're going to try to do cycling and walking expansion.

They want people sort of not in cars and not in public transport as much as possible.

And it struck me as like a small example of the ways that people might be thinking about how to restructure our kind of lived world as we re-emerge from the virus.

We have more audio.

This is everywhere.

And it's not an isolated incident.

This is a coordinated plan.

You see that Bill de Blasio just took more streets, miles of streets in New York City and making them into carless streets.

You saw this happen now in London, has just done it.

There are several cities all around the world that are now saying, you know what, we're just going to make this into a walking street because of the coronavirus to help with the social distancing.

What?

That doesn't even make sense.

There are those that are putting in these draconian rules to, one,

gauge you on how far they can get away with it.

And two, to be able to fundamentally transform the entire world because of climate change.

That is all gobbledygook to say this.

The free market is under attack.

And if I may quote the prophet of the gym in New Jersey, if you don't stand now,

they are gauging you.

If you don't stand now, you may not have any rights when they actually say, okay, you can go back to work now.

More in just a second, including spooky dude.

In one minute.

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So, you have to ask yourself, why is it that everybody is getting bailouts and everybody else is getting special favors, et cetera, et cetera, and Elon Musk can open up, even though he had to really pound for it, but he can open up, but the average person can't.

Why is it that the average person is not getting relief for small businesses when 80% of all new jobs created in the last great recession, 80% of those jobs came from small businesses.

Small business is the backbone.

Small business is the American dream.

You don't have to go to work for some giant corporation that would take your idea and run with it.

You can start yourself.

That's, I believe, the reason why you're not really getting the help and nobody cares about the small businessman.

I think Donald Trump, I think there are a lot of people that do actually care, but there is a great force mainly in the media and on the left that just doesn't care about the small business person.

And they are essential if the American way of life is going to continue.

You have to keep them busy.

You know, I told you yesterday, there was an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about how

there's two groups.

There's the group of elites that are saying, no,

it might be 14 years before we can find a cure, and that's fine.

Let's just keep everything closed and those who are saying no I'm hungry I've got to feed my kids I've got to put food on the table and that's the rub the people quite honestly like me I'm not impacted like probably most of the audience is.

It's easier for me because I can do my business from home.

Nothing's really been disrupted.

We've had some economic issues, but it's not like losing my business.

So what do we do?

What do we do?

Well, it's easy for me to sit here and go, you know, I think for the public safety, but that's disregarding everything that's really happening.

Not only are you out of touch and too self-contained if you don't see the plight of others, but there might be something else that's going on.

You might actually think that it is easier to control people if they don't have control of small businesses.

Because a lot of these big industries, they're all in with the left.

They'll do whatever they have to do and they're fine.

So let's just have everybody be a cog in the wheel.

Well, the thing that sets us apart from the Soviet Union and every other communist country has been the little guy can start his own, do his own thing, and be successful.

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Welcome to the program.

I want to give you a little bit here of Spooky Dude.

Pat is joining us now from Pat Gray Unleashed, the podcast that you can get wherever podcasts are heard, and you can hear him live prior to this program only on Blaze Radio Network.

So I want to bring you in, Pat, as we're talking about George Soros.

There was a new interview

where George Soros was talking to The Independent,

which is in London.

And I just want you to hear this.

We've been talking about the degrowth movement that is happening and the plans from the left to use the coronavirus to measure how we react, how much they can get away with,

and then try to shape all of our governmental responses to be able to create the society and the governmental structure that they would need to be able to bring in all of their climate change nonsense.

So George Soros says, you've seen many crises before.

This is according to the interviewer.

You've seen a lot of crisis before.

Is the Corona 19 pandemic comparable to any previous one?

Now, remember, George Soros,

the big crisis in his life would be what, Pat?

Just off the top of your head.

Let's see, the Holocaust.

Yeah, his family was hunted by the Nazis, and he had to go live under a fake name with another family.

I mean, you want to talk about crisis.

He says, no, this is the crisis of my lifetime.

Not even

before the pandemic hit, I realized we were in a revolutionary moment where what would be impossible or even inconceivable in normal times had become not only possible, but probably absolutely necessary.

When the corona, uh, COVID-19 disrupted people's lives and required very different behavior, it was an unprecedented event that probably has never occurred in this combination.

And it endangers the survival of our civilization.

Then he goes on to say, we have never seen anything quite like this pandemic.

He says, we're not going to go back.

We won't go back to where we were when pandemic started.

That is certain.

But that is the only thing that is certain.

Everything else is up for grabs.

Everything else is up for grabs.

I don't think anyone knows how capitalism will evolve.

At the present time, people are dominated by fear, and fear often makes people hurt themselves.

That is true of individuals as well as institutions, nations, and humanity itself.

The continuing conflict between the U.S.

and China complicates matters.

We ought to work together on climate change and developing a vaccine against COVID-19.

So now you know his priorities in this are working on climate change and a vaccine.

This is why people are now like, we're not bending the curve.

We can't go back until we have a vaccine because they need this time to work on climate change.

He says, the fact is,

we are not working together because we're competing over who will develop and use the vaccine.

The fact that we have two very different systems of government, democratic and

this,

imagine he can't come up with the right word for communist.

So the interviewer says, autocratic?

Yes,

that makes things much harder.

He then says that, you know,

President Z, when he abolished term limits and named himself president for life, he destroyed the political future of

one of the most important and ambitious men.

And he was in a very narrow and competitive elite group, and he destroyed himself.

Now, President Trump would like to be a dictator, but he cannot be one because there's a Constitution in the United States that the people still respect.

And we have to prevent him from doing certain things.

That doesn't mean he won't try because he's literally fighting for his life.

Wait a minute.

He just makes the statement.

Yeah.

Made a statement of some sort there as we lost Glenn here from the feed.

Wow.

During a George Soros discussion.

Well, we've been saying forever.

Hey, he's a dictator when he's doing absolutely everything in the opposite.

Well,

apparently, George Soros hacked it from your feed there, so we lost you for about 30 seconds, Glenn.

But

we expected this from a long time there.

Are you there?

Can you hear me?

Yeah, I don't know.

You can maybe bring Glenn down here for a second as

we tend to be losing him for a moment, so we can get that connected.

It is interesting to see, you know, here's a guy who is

wildly

irresponsible with the way he's acted over a very long period of time.

And, you know, this is the fear, I think, of a lot of people who occasionally jump to maybe even the improper conclusions about

every little move that happens in government.

When you see that there are people like this who look at these things things as something to take advantage of,

you have to be able to be skeptical.

And, you know, it leads to people jumping even further down that road sometimes.

Yes, exactly, Glenn.

Booky Dude.

All right, so where did you lose me?

Where did you lose me?

Where I was talking about what he said about Donald Trump?

Yes.

Yes, right in there.

Okay, so he said that Donald Trump would like to be dictator, but he cannot be one because there's a constitution in the United States and people still respect it.

And it will prevent him from doing certain things.

That does not mean he won't try because he's fighting for his life.

Let me just say this.

It is incredible to me that the media and the left have accused Donald Trump of being a dictator over and over and over again.

They encouraged him to make this a federal thing.

And everybody says because they want that power.

Absolutely true.

But also because they wanted to paint him as a dictator.

Look, because he didn't do it, the Democrats are the ones who are doing it.

Now, there are two exceptions to that.

One of them is in Maryland that's a Republican.

But for the most part, all of these actions are being taken by Democrats who want the autocratic rule.

Donald Trump is doing the exact opposite of the dictator dance.

So George Soros says, I have proposed the EU should issue perpetual bonds.

He's got all kinds of things that are

going on.

He says, listen, I'm not pessimistic at all.

Far from it.

I recognize Europe is facing several dangers and not a figure of speech.

That is reality.

He goes on to talk about all of the different things that are happening, but this is not a normal time.

It's actually an ideal time right now to be able to change the world and to be able to have an open society.

I warn you that these people are doing things.

All of this stuff stuff about the second, second stimulus package, they've had time to catch their breath.

When Donald Trump did it, it was, let's go, let's put people to work, let's give people money.

It was flawed because we rushed to it.

We don't have to rush anymore.

Do not allow panic to play a role.

Do not allow fear to play a role.

They're counting on your fear.

And it's really, it's sick on what's going on.

But if we don't stand now, we may not have any liberty left.

Let me switch topics.

Pat, can you please explain what the hell the problem is with Donald Trump taking hydroxychloroquine?

I don't think there is a problem.

And,

you know, here's a guy who believes in it, and we know he believes in it because he's talked about it multiple times.

So he's kind of putting his money where his mouth is.

And he's taking it, doing exactly what he said

would help people from the beginning.

And if he's taking hydroxychloroquine, you can take just that by itself, and it's fine.

It's a drug that has been around forever.

There's no heart palpitations or anything else.

It's just, if you're taking it, just that drug.

If you mix it with a Z-PAC, it becomes dangerous and you should be monitored with your heart.

He's taking it with zinc, which is not as dangerous, but there are doctors at the White House all the time.

If there was a magic potion and everybody was like, this is ridiculous,

they're saying it's a magic potion.

But you had seen some people take that magic potion and it helped them.

If it's the president of the United States and there's no downside for him taking it, it's a magic potion that has been in use for another magical disease for a long time, I think everyone would say the president should take that as a prophylactic drug because there's no harm in taking it.

Why is this such a big deal?

The president should be kept safe.

And they're saying, Nancy Pelosi, for the gall of that woman to come out and say he's morbidly obese is just,

it's so childish what's going on.

Yeah, it's ugly.

And I think it's an amazing.

I think it's an amazing testament to what he's been saying all along.

Although I didn't know

about

hydroxychloroquine that it was preventative, that you could prevent getting they think it might they think it might be there's these are all just

you know nothing has been scientifically proven but hydroxychloroquine is by itself is not a dangerous drug.

It is it's it's like Prozac.

It's been out forever.

Yes, there are some people that take it in it, but it's been out forever and ever and ever or lithium.

It's been out forever and people can take it without real side effects.

Yeah, that's what I say about heroin all the time.

It's been out forever.

You know, people know the effect of it, they understand how important they're.

That's why I take it every day, three times a day.

Well, four times.

You know what?

Let me use that.

Let me use that.

If, let's say, this pain, let's say this thing only caused debilitating pain, and there was a way that

what is the

oxycodone.

If oxycodone had a way to get you so you weren't in pain and it wouldn't allow you to develop this disease that would cause debilitating pain.

As long, even with the side effects of that, as long as the president were taking it with a doctor who's practically living at the White House right now, they are checking him and everyone around him all the time.

If that worked, I would say the president should be taking oxycodone.

Not enough to impair his vision, but if it was a preventative thing and the doctors were there the whole time take it mr president it might work yeah and especially the president i would be saying this about barack obama as well he should be taking anything that we know is relatively safe that might keep him out of trouble especially when his valet

has the virus and so does

people close to to mike pence so obviously they've been around people they've been subjected to the disease

If this can maybe keep them from getting it, go for it.

Yeah, and frankly, if you are on heroin, you're not going to even notice COVID-19.

It's probably true.

It cures it, but you don't exactly care.

You might get it, but you won't care.

Thank you.

You won't care.

Amen.

Thank you.

By the way, did you see that President or Vice President Biden came out with a nickname?

Oh, he's so good.

He is so good.

He came out with a nickname for Donald Trump, and he said he's really been resisting giving President Trump Trump a nickname, but he's changed his mind.

And

he said, listen, this is him saying it listen.

Why have they failed to get this money out to the folks who desperately need it to stay afloat?

Is it incompetence?

Corruption?

Trump is out there tweeting again this morning.

I call him President Tweety.

He calls him President Twitter.

Stop, stop, President Tweety, like Tweety Bird.

Except he sees, because he's tweeting.

Oh, man.

Oh, boy.

And then, and then.

Also, close your window so we don't hear the geese behind you the whole time.

Yeah.

And then

geese are really nasty animals.

I think he uses those as Gestapo myself.

Anyway,

Biden then said in an interview, Trump is a master at laying nicknames on people.

I can hardly wait to get on stage with Donald Trump.

Oh, man, he's going to be so good with things like President Tweety.

Oh,

he's going to slay him.

Ridiculous.

All right.

Thanks, Pat.

You can listen to Pac Bray Unleashed wherever you find your podcasts.

Pac Bray Unleashed, available now.

All right.

Mr.

Pat Bray.

Thank you.

That's right, everybody.

If you were to guess on average how many days people in the U.S.

have to wait to see a doctor, what would you say?

A week, maybe?

Maybe a little longer during the lockdown?

On average, some people can wait up to 29 days to see a doctor in major U.S.

cities, basically a month.

If you're dealing with a condition like ED or hair loss or cold sores or anything you don't want to talk about with anybody, you don't want to wait a month.

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She apparently posted a fundraiser that she partnered with Minnesota Food Share.

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Well, unfortunately, the $5, the donations were going to her re-election campaign.

The food share

executive director said, Elon O'Mar has nothing to do with this project.

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primary campaign.

And he's credited with tipping the historic loss and the beginning of the Trump era.

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Well, he's been following Elon Omar, and we've had him on for several times on this program, and he has partnered us with us on research so we can get the news out that he is finding.

And he's found something new that Elon Omar has done that at the very least is suspicious, the way it all came down.

It's coronavirus.

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Was she?

Or was she thinking that maybe she could get away with raising some campaign funds on the back of coronavirus?

We'll talk to David Steinberg in one minute.

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David Steinberg was the New York City editor for PJ Media for a long time.

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He's really responsible for Dave Bratt in office, and we welcome him to the program.

He's been working quite a while on Elon Omar, and hopefully we're going to see some action on this.

You have something that you wrote to me, and it's now being published on theblaze.com,

a story about what has happened here just because of the coronavirus.

Can you take me through this?

Glenn, yes.

Thanks for having me on here.

What I've been discussing

since 2018 is that the political correctness of avoiding to cover this woman because it was somehow detrimental to her Somali immigrants' community, there was a very heavily Somali immigrant community in her district,

that they were avoiding,

you understand how this goes.

They don't want to criticize her because of her identity.

because that could be detrimental to her community.

The problem

is right.

Since 2016 is that the people suffering under Rep Omar are her community members, the Somali immigrants, many of them elderly who don't speak English all that well, who have been living under her thumb,

terrorized, bullied by her.

I've reported several times about threatening behavior, about threats to family members and relatives back home in Somalia.

The people suffering under Rep

are the Somali immigrant population of her district.

Now, wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

How can you possibly say that, David?

There's a tweet from her, and I'm going to quote: As Minnesotans struggle with hunger, I'm partnering with MN Foods Share, Minnesota Food Share, and other local groups that pack and deliver meals to students and families.

Chip in $5 today to power their efforts and keep our communities fed.

And then she even has a link that sends you to secure.actblue.com so you can donate.

It's a problem.

She's helping their community.

We reached that on May 5th.

And

Minnesota Food Share

was a charity meals program that very quickly got together

this prominent imam in the area.

He had a 501c3 organization.

He partnered with Minnesota Food Share, which was part of this 115-year-old church charity called GMCC.

And they said, we have a lot of people in this community who are seniors or disabled.

And because we are now under a lockdown order, which started March 25th, they are in immediate risk of hunger if they can't get out of the house and get to these local Somali restaurants or to wherever they had been getting.

And that's why Elon Omar partnered with them.

And she sent them to actblue.com to be able to make a secure donation.

Yes, so on May 5th, she tweets that.

Hours later that evening, the executive director of GMCC,

which runs Minnesota Food Share,

this story charity, it's been there again 115 years.

She tweets, Ilhan Omar had nothing to do with this project.

I do not know where this money is going to.

I do.

It's going to actblue.com.

So what?

Yes.

It was was ActBlue.com.

It was simply a donation to Ilhan Omar's campaign.

So that was on May 5th.

Now on May 8th, I noticed it.

Well, Ilhan Omar, sometime after

her link, her this fraudulent link was up for, it seems, between one to three days.

On May 8th, I noticed it had been deleted.

All I did was simply tweet that Ilhan has posted this,

and this is what the charity director posted, and Ilhan's tweet has now been deleted.

And I started to dig a little deeper into this to see if anyone could go on record and explain what had happened.

What had happened is Ilhan literally shook down a charity that was feeding her voters,

these Somali immigrants in her district.

Ilhan had shook down a charity the day before,

and you're not going to believe this story, but the Imam, his name is Imam Tabakal Ismail,

and he's very prominent in that community.

So, for six weeks, since right after the stay-at-home order was issued,

he has been raising money to feed this community.

Ilhan Omar shows up

and wants to film a little campaign promo for herself in front of the restaurant

while he is feeding these seniors.

And she wants to discuss how, you know, her meals act, that frider she had put into the coronavirus bill, it was helping to feed these people and how she was also helping to partner with Minnesota Food Share.

He tells her to get lost.

He says, no, we've been doing this for six weeks.

You've had nothing nothing to do with this.

We want absolutely no

partnerships with any political campaign or anybody who is currently elected.

This is pure charity work.

We are feeding the homeless.

You are not to use that camera around here.

And it also said that in his contract that he had signed with the restaurant.

So

he actually went on record.

He said that to Ilhan,

campaign one of her key campaign staffers who's been with her since 2016.

His name is Ali Issi,

and he uses

the nickname Ali Ghani.

So I asked him specifically, I said, did Ilhan know, did she get the message from him that she was not supposed to be filming there and sh that she was to have nothing to do with your program?

He says, yes, they tried to film it without my knowledge.

I walked in on them.

We had an argument.

I expressly told them not to.

I gave the same instructions to the restaurant owner.

And then he says,

this is the quote, Ali Ghani defied my instructions.

He said, anything that happened in this district comes under Ilhan Omar regardless of who's doing it.

They literally tried to bully this man into letting her film this promo.

Now, after that fight,

that was on May 3rd, two days later, she tweets

this false tweet that she is partnering with Minnesota Food Share and donate $5.

It'll help keep our communities fed.

There was no discussion.

It appears that, oh, go ahead.

Well, it appears as though she just hijacked it again now, but on Twitter.

But I want to ask you one thing.

It is disgusting what she did there, trying to take credit for something that she had nothing to do with.

That's disgusting, but not illegal.

With the tweet, any politician can endorse anybody, whether they like it or not.

Anyone can endorse anybody.

The question is...

Was there a website where you could donate from this charity that she could have used to retweet?

And why did she use the Act Blue, which is the way she raises funds?

And do we have proof that that money was used in any other way other than the charity?

So after I reported this on May 8th,

the charity that had originally said she has nothing to do with this,

on May 9th,

there was some pressure, apparently, from Omar's campaign.

And obviously, this is a charity that simply does not want any friction.

So on May 9th, they tweet, we have now confirmed that the funds Ilhan solicited on our behalf earlier this week will go to Minnesota Food Share to donate to our efforts, and then she gives the proper link to Minnesota Food Share.

So she had said, we have now confirmed.

There was no prior agreement that Bill Hunt, the money Omar was collecting, was going to go to anybody besides Omar.

Now,

here's the real problem.

Here's the real problem here.

If I were raising money and I said to you, just write the check out to me and I'll deliver it to Mercury One, there would be all kinds of people that would go, wait a minute, what?

And I would have to, no one

in my world would say that's a good idea.

I wouldn't say it either.

It's a bad idea just because the appearance of impropriety, let alone the

ease of actual taking money and shifting dollars.

But there is the link, and it's a secure link, gmcc.org, where you can donate.

Any idea why she ran it through this?

Through Act Blue instead of, through her campaign instead of GMCC?

Well, look,

there were two principals.

There were four organizations that were partnering to run this charity.

Two of them are chaired by this Imam.

He had two charity organizations.

The other one was GMCC,

and this charity food program is a part of GMCC and has been for decades.

So we have the two principals, the executive director of GMCC and the Imam

both say she had nothing to do with this and he in particular says she's doing this out of spite because she wanted to film and she wanted this little promo with the seniors and Somalis who are in her community and forgotten people.

She wanted this promo of these people being fed by her essentially.

So he's saying she did this out of spite.

And that link that went up, there was no arrangement.

Again, Gwen, as you said, soliciting a charitable contribution under false pretenses is a crime for anybody in this country,

let alone a political campaign doing it.

Who knows how many

infractions are involved there?

But yes, you recall this happened a couple of years ago.

There was a large case where somebody raised a lot of money for a homeless man who got gas for a woman on the side of the street.

They are now serving a lengthy jail sentence.

You cannot solicit charitable contributions under false pretenses.

And

exhibit A of someone doing that, I don't know what it is.

So I ask you this, and I'm up against the network, so I've got to take a break, but I ask you this at the end of all of your exposés.

Any interest at all from the police on this?

FBI, anybody?

On this one in particular, well, I wanted to publish it first on the Blaze, get some attention here, and we'll see if we can actually get something done.

I don't know.

I do know that Steve Dreskowski is involved, and he is the one who last year started the investigation that got her caught on six campaign finance infractions.

And I do know that he's on it.

All right.

Good work, David.

Thank you for bringing this to us.

I think it's not up yet, but it's going to be published by the Blaze here very soon.

I urge you to read it and

ask,

you know, send to the Justice Department, FBI, why?

Why is this not being investigated?

There is a long, long list of wrongdoings.

Is anything going to be done?

Thank you so much.

David Steinberg, journalist, who now has a story that is being published on Blaze.com, theblaze.com.

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that is fantastic and it was a really happy moment i mean it was do you believe in miracles kind of moment there i thought uh but this is happening now in several places all around the country.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

It's Tuesday.

I've been wanting to have James Rollins on for a while because I've been reading his book.

I've just finished it, The Last Odyssey.

And it's one of my favorite kind of books.

James is a favorite author of mine.

I think we've had him on before.

Number one New York Times bestseller, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He has this great ability to take science, emerging science,

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It's not fiction, but it's not fact either.

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And it's one of those books that you just begin to...

It just opens up your mind to new possibilities and different worlds and history that you never thought of.

I mean, I read Homer and the Odyssey when I had to, not been interested in it.

My daughter keeps telling me, Dad, you got to read it.

It's so great.

And I'm like, not interested.

Until I read this, which is really nothing

boring about it at all, which is what you think.

This book starts with Leonardo da Vinci,

religious cults, and a search for the gateway to hell.

I mean, could it get any better?

And Sigma Force is back.

If you've never read any of his books, you don't have to read them to pick this one up, but I guarantee you'll be picking up past ones if you start.

James, welcome to the program.

How are you?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Thanks for having me back on the program.

The only reason I got that number one New York Times list was because you supported my books.

I appreciate it very much.

Oh my gosh, that's how untrue that is.

You're a great writer.

If it wasn't me, it would have been somebody else that would have just helped spread the word a little earlier.

But this book, James, you had me from the get-go.

First, let's

start with the premise real quickly.

I don't want to get bogged down in it, but start with the premise real quick.

Yeah, you know, I'm always looking for that, the truth behind mythology, the truth behind these ancient stories we used to tell each other.

And, you know, for centuries, everybody thought the city of Troy was just an imaginary place.

It was just something that Homer made up.

I had no idea.

I had no idea until I read the book.

Exactly.

It wasn't until the late 18th century when an armchair archaeologist, wasn't even an expert, stumbled upon these ruins in the coast of Turkey.

And he believed, I think this is the city of Troy.

And all the archaeologists sort of laughed at him.

But over time, it was proven that, yes, that is indeed the ruins of the city of Troy.

So within a second, suddenly, you know, what was considered mythology is now history.

And so, you know, know, me as a thriller writer, I'm thinking, well, if Troy was a real place, you know, how much else of Homer's stories of gods and monsters and curses and miracles in the Iliad and the Odyssey, you know, what else might be buried in there?

What else might be true in that story?

That began my quest to write this novel.

And this novel, the ending,

the last, I mean, the whole thing is just

non-stop, but the last half of this book, when they're really looking into, you know, what would be really the gateway to hell uh and you explain how the gods and monsters was just ancient technology it's mind-boggling mind-boggling well you know any chance

go ahead so I went to the National Archaeological Museum in Athens and they have the ant this device called the anthikothera mechanism it was a this sort of rusted device that was found in a shipwreck in the Mediterranean and it almost looks like a computer if you look at it.

It looks like a piece of a computer.

And

again, it took a little bit of a while.

There was some skepticism among archaeologists, but now it's become somewhat accepted that this probably is the first example of an analog computer.

You know, back in ancient Greek times, they were already at that level of advancement.

And so I was doing more research, going to other museums, talking to different historians, I just found out exactly how surprising and how much we underestimate the technology and how sophisticated people were.

We look at the the building of the pyramids and people want to blame them on ancient aliens or something like that.

No, we were just the human beings have these wonderful brains in our heads and we're very inventive and we look at the world around us and we try to innovate.

And so, you know, one of the reasons I want to write this novel is almost a little homage to the pure creativity of the human mind.

I'm convinced, James, that we have had technology and destroyed ourselves, had technology and destroyed ourselves several times several times.

But

is

the automatons really

that

are part of your story, for lack of a better term,

automatons, but

is that come from that piece of that quote-unquote computer, or is there anything else that you saw in history that helped you shape this?

I did a bunch of research and it's shocking how, I mean, they were already building automatons in group Greek time.

There was a whole slew of designs and architect engineers.

They were building these incredible devices back then.

They had these incredible pumps and they had these

moving statues.

So they were already working beyond what most people think.

It was like hydraulics.

Oh, exactly.

They were very ingenious with what they were able to create.

They had horses that would drink water.

They had birds that could fly.

The original Olympics in Greece had this entire mechanical sort of demonstration where a dolphin would come out of the water and a bird would go flying.

This is all mechanic, all sort of these mechanical automatons they were building.

So it's incredible.

And so most people don't realize how sharp they were.

So I love shining lights on those little bits of history that have become lost in time,

whether it's in a story, whether it's this ancient technology.

The one of the things that you'd hit right off the bat, which got me right right away, is

the connection between Leonardo da Vinci and one of the greatest minds in the world

from the Muslim

golden era.

And

there are lots of pieces in history that say that

Leonardo da Vinci really kind of copied a lot of the stuff

from the Muslims

that had

long ago come up with things that that he was credited for?

Well, that's one thing I was sort of fascinated with is that

knowledge seems to be passed like a torch from one civilization to another.

When Europe began falling into the dark ages and knowledge is being lost, it shifted over to the Muslim world where they were in this flourishing in this Islamic golden age and they were inventing a bunch of things, they were expanding upon what we were doing in Europe before the dark ages.

And then

the Islamic Golden Age began to fade, and that torch passed back to Europe during the Renaissance.

And that's what we saw happen with Leonardo da Vinci.

As the Islamic world was beginning to fall into darkness, the Renaissance was becoming going on in Europe, and Leonardo da Vinci was one of those that carried that torch forward.

He went and studied these ancient books from these groups of Arab inventors from the House of Wisdom, an ancient school of architecture and engineering.

And by his own admission, Leonardo does admit that he was influenced, if not even outright borrowed, from some of those early Muslim inventors.

And not only did he do that, he basically carried that forward.

He took those rudimentary bits of knowledge that were almost lost and built upon them.

And so I just like the fact that

knowledge never seems to be quite lost.

A common theme of

my books is that knowledge is never truly lost.

Whatever it's buried, it's going to come back out again.

And so

Leonardo da Vinci is a perfect example of that.

So, James, I could spend an hour with you on this topic, but we're going to run out of time.

The religious cults that get involved, you have a coming together of all kinds of people that you would think were mortal enemies, and they're coming together because of the reset or the destruction of the world.

Tell me a little bit about this and the, you know,

if you will, the second coming or the, you know, the last Imam or whatever it is people believe.

Tell me where that comes from and how real is this?

Well, I was trying when I was writing this novel about, you know, looking for the gates of hell.

So I was looking at the way various cultures viewed the end of the world.

You know, what happens

after all of us are gone.

And I found out that there was actually a lot of commonality.

There's a lot of shared views that were

weirdly and sort of strangely tied together.

And then I found out that there was sort of this worrisome trend right now that, you know, believing that maybe we're in the biblical end times and maybe we should drive towards that goal.

And what I found out is that is even going on in

in Iran, is that the Ayatollah, the supreme leader,

the president of Iran,

they're both twelvers, which is they believe that the Imam is due to arrive.

And the Imam is supposed to be the heralding of the end of the world.

And again, there are some beliefs about the return of Jesus Christ in their mythology or in their belief in what's going to happen at the end of the world.

So again, it was just fascinating the way everybody was viewing this different world.

So my concern is that there is almost a political military trend towards trying to push towards that goal, which, especially right now, I'm not looking forward to the end of the world right now.

No, no, I'm not either.

It's a little concerning that there's some drive towards that.

So one of the goals of this novel is maybe to shine a light on that existential threat about

certain powers trying to drive us towards biblical end times.

I will tell you, James, that I mean, this is like a Glenn Beck novel.

This has me written all over it for a million different reasons.

But one of them is just that where it starts, it starts up in Greenland when you get into the story, what was trapped and found under the ice.

And I'm convinced, I don't know about Greenland, but Antarctica, I think there is all kinds of stuff.

And most of it natural, just, you know,

we're finding tropical plants way way way way way uh beneath the ice uh in antarctica there's just yep there's so much to the history of the world that we don't know that is

going to as you said eventually become uncovered yeah i mean i you mentioned before about you know a potential that there's been civilization after civilization and i believe that one of my novels coming up is going to be dealing with that very subject matter My next novel, Savage Zones, coming out next spring, is all about viruses.

My editor goes,

how come you know all about this?

You wrote the seventh plague about a viral pandemic, and now we're in a viral pandemic.

You wrote about Chinese labs and the weird things going on in those labs in the bone labyrinth, and look what's happening now.

My book I wrote a year and a half ago, Demon Crown, was all about giant Asian wasps, and now we have the murder hornets.

So

when I started writing this virus, maybe you're the problem, James.

Maybe it's all coming from you.

It's all coming from writing right now.

But it's always

talk about this whole situation we're in, in because I did a lot of research for this virus and

there's things I would love to reveal that's going on right now, but I'm no longer.

Could I ask you to come back for maybe an hour?

Because I'm out of time.

Can I ask you to come back in the next week?

Everything that's really going on about the coronavirus, there's things that people know about.

There's things I know and I would love to share that.

Okay.

All right.

One last thing on this.

By the way, the book is called The Last Odyssey.

If you're looking for a great thriller, this is the summer thriller.

It's fantastic.

The Last Odyssey.

Last question.

You know Harlan Coben, right?

I do.

Indeed, yep.

I actually passed him the Silver Bullet Award over at Thriller Fest last year.

Yeah, good for you.

He's done something with the BBC where he is making these books into series, little five-part or eight-part series with Netflix over in England.

You need to get this.

You need to get this book.

This is like, this is a really, really smart Indiana Jones almost I mean it it has everything that I loved about Indiana Jones

with the adventure and the danger and everything else but it's really a deep book it's really good James really good somebody needs to see this book and make it into a series Well,

this series has been optioned, so, you know, fingers crossed.

Oh, it has.

We may eventually see the big screen or the small screen.

Excellent.

Good.

Good.

James, we'll talk to you again.

We'll have one of our people reach out to you, and we'll schedule something here as soon as we can because I would love to talk to you at greater length, especially about what's going on today with the virus.

Thank you so much, James.

Appreciate it.

Appreciate it.

You bet.

Yep.

James Rollins, the name of the book is The Last Odyssey.

It's been out for a while, you know,

a couple of weeks or maybe a couple of months, but it's really, really great.

James Rollins, The Last Odyssey.

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Yeah, truth is harder than fiction because fiction has to make sense.

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You know, we've spent a lot of time complaining about things and saying, you know, how much this lockdown sucks.

But there is some good things.

Now, the left is looking at this and saying, yeah, we can reshape the world.

We can get rid of capitalism.

We can herd people into places.

We can save the planet with global warming.

All we have to do this, all we have to do is do what we're doing now and a little bit more for at least the next 30 years.

Oh, perfect.

But there are some other things that if you happen to be a lover of the Constitution, you might like, and that is people are waking up to this old antiquated idea of rights.

that we have a bill of rights and they can't be violated.

And there is no right

to not get sick.

There is no right of being safe.

It's an impossible right.

And they're violating all of the real rights that we're endowed with to try to give us a bogus right that they can't.

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And we're finding great partners all around the country and the world, including in a city in California, a new

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if you're an illegal business, if you're opening up a business against the state, well, we'll tell you about this brave mayor.

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Also, Sabo, the artist, the renegade.

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So, Lindsey Graham has introduced the COVID-19 Accountability Act, which allows President Trump to sanction China for mishandling the coronavirus pretty much from start to finish.

Even if we can consider this finished, I don't know if you heard, heard, but another city is going down on lockdown in China.

There is now another major city that they are starting to lock down because it has come back to China.

They need to answer for what they have done to the world, but we also need to protect everything that we have.

We're in an economic crisis of biblical proportions.

The latest from the Fed is they think that our current unemployment rate is about 30%.

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Sanctuary cities, something that we really don't ever like to hear about.

Sanctuary cities, except this one, you're going to like.

The city of Atwater has passed a resolution that allows the city's businesses and churches and not-for-profit organizations to reopen

despite the continuance.

We are thrilled to have, and why do I not have any of his information, we're thrilled to have

our guest

with us, Paul Creighton, is with us.

I don't know what happened to it.

I'm sorry.

Paul, welcome to the program.

He is the mayor of this sanctuary city.

Hi, Paul.

How are you?

Hey, good morning, Glenn.

Thank you for having me on.

You bet.

So

first of all,

thank you.

Thank you for standing up for the Constitution.

Thank you for standing up for small businesses.

Tell me how you came to this and what's happening.

Okay, first,

where we got where we're at today is because Councilman Brian Raymond, Mayor Pro Tem,

he was talking to his neighbor about what's going on, the devastation to all of our local businesses, and they were just having this discussion back and forth.

And somehow, sanctuary for the drug addicts,

the people, the syringes, the needles, the homeless in San Francisco, the homeless here in Outwater, they're all protected.

And Brian, his light went off and said, Sanctuary City for all businesses.

Then he called me up and I ran with it.

I think it was genius.

So,

what does this mean?

Now, this is where, I mean, mean,

the food that we get comes from your valley, right?

It does.

It's grown right here.

We're in the heart, the breadbasket of the world.

Okay.

And you are critical to the rest of us and the rest of the world eating.

What has been the impact, Paul,

on your community of this lockdown?

It's been total financial devastation.

The lockdown that we all agreed to for two weeks, and then

we did the right thing.

Our community, our city council, we were ahead of the governor.

We were ahead of the county.

We declared an emergency over 10 days before the governor or the county did.

We put a medical team together with a Dr.

Vannek, not a team, but Dr.

Vannek is a surgeon to advise us on what we should do.

We started buying PPE.

We got medical supplies.

We got with the high school district.

We commandeered local

high school in case we needed two, 300 beds to put in over there.

We were making plans for the worst-case scenario, and it never came, which is good because we smashed the curve.

So since then, they've asked us two more weeks, then two more weeks, and we're ready to go back open because we have nurses and doctors that are losing money.

Nurses are being sent home at our local hospital.

I know.

You know what's crazy?

It's crazy, Paul, that

we all got into this, and most of us were ahead of the government, as it should be.

The people usually lead.

And we all agreed with, hey, let's bend the curve.

Let's make sure that we don't cripple our hospitals.

But then suddenly it went to, we're not going to reopen until we have a cure, which is insanity.

And none of us would have agreed to.

It's worse than that.

It's worse than that.

They said, ex-people will be hurt.

Let's flatten the curve so we don't ruin the hospitals.

So now nobody can get hurt.

Nobody can be hurt from anything whatsoever.

Right.

And how dare us think that we can go back and earn a living?

Because the bailout's not coming to Outwater, California.

2008, we were the epicenter of the financial housing crisis.

We've never recovered from that.

So to say that if we do the right thing, we tell the line like other politicians around me are doing, that, hey, behave, be quiet, the governor will retaliate against you, or you might not get funding from the governor.

They blew through $250 million in two months.

That's every two months, that's a half trillion dollars.

There's no way they're going to have money to bail us out.

We have to save ourselves what this council decided to do.

So we're talking to the mayor of Atwater, California, Paul Crichton, who has defied the governor.

I just read a story today.

One of the sheriffs from the second most populous county in Illinois said he has been strong-armed.

He has been told his funding will go away if he doesn't stand with the governor.

And he said, I can't do it anymore.

I just, it's not right.

He said, this is the people have rights and we're violating their rights.

Have you been strong-armed, Paul?

Have you had tangible things said to you or threatened to be held back?

So after we announced the Sanctuary City Friday night,

Yes, the governor's office has been busy.

The alcohol and tobacco arm of the governor has called every single business in town to hold an alcohol license and threaten them that if they seat people and serve them alcohol, they're going to yank their license, which is complete Nazism.

I can't believe that's happening.

I've got business owners calling me crying and saying, I thought we could open up.

I thought we could sit people down, have dinner, and be able to have a glass of wine in the great state of California.

Instead, we have the ABC out of Stockton, California, the head supervisor calling personally, telling everybody, you better shut down.

You better not be doing this stuff.

So, yes, we're getting the strong arm of the government's coming down on us pretty hard here in California.

What's the ABC?

That's the alcohol-tobacco control.

They regulate the liquor licenses and the tobacco industry here.

Okay.

So

this is one thing that is really,

it drives me crazy that we have so many license for so many things that just don't need a license.

I mean,

there's lots of things.

You know, you're going to be a doctor.

I'd like to make sure that you were licensed.

But there's some things that just don't need a license.

You just talked about the restaurants, but how about the salons?

How about people who are cutting people's hair?

Are they getting threatened as well?

You know, the governor announced that he knew where the virus came from, that it came from a nail salon.

He has that whole industry terrified, absolutely terrified.

So they have yet to open up.

We're We're looking for our county to stand up and do the right thing and get us to the next level so we can open up.

The local county just to our east, Mariposa, has already opened up for business up there because they're proactive and they're not messing around.

And just this weekend, our sheriff has put down the gauntlet also and joined the city of Atwater too.

He's going to stand down.

They're not going to come out and enforce anything.

And we're sending a message and we're getting

tremendous support nationwide.

Never in a million years did we dream that this would go outside the city limits.

We were just trying to do the right thing for ourselves, and we know that we're starving to death here.

So we have to save ourselves, and that's all we're trying to do.

We're not looking to pick a fight with the governor or anybody else, but I'll tell you what, when I was in D.C., Washington, D.C., this January and met the president, I told him personally to his face that we need his help out here in California, and I didn't know at the time how bad that was going to come true.

How bad of shape are the farmers and the people that are actually feeding us?

Are they...

Well, we've got local dairies here in town.

They're dumping milk.

They're going to have to start killing cows.

It's actually emotionally devastating, financially devastating.

And you don't just bring another cow back tomorrow to

go milk them.

It takes months and years to get these animals ready to go.

You know,

I don't think we're having a serious discussion about

local farmers enough.

I mean, being able to bring things to market locally, being able to butcher your own cattle locally and not have to go through one of these big slaughterhouses.

I mean,

we've farmed our medicine and too much of our jobs overseas, and we're doing the same thing into other states or other communities.

There is a reason to have things, you know, kind of centralized in some degree and have big distribution places, but there's also a reason to make sure that we can do these things locally.

We're all these farmers, there's no reason why these farmers have to slaughter these animals because the big slaughterhouses can't do them.

Many times you can do them locally and you could actually sell the meat if

you had, right, if you had the right to do it, if you had the, well, I shouldn't say that, if you had the license to do it, you you could slaughter the meat and you could have it in the local grocery store and we wouldn't have any of these problems.

But the government has just gotten out of control.

I'll tell you what, what's going on right now is just like the power crisis we had.

Remember when the grid went down and we found out that all the power is in one state and they control everything?

We've learned that our food supply, we're growing it here and it's all being controlled in one state.

The meat,

the packing industry, it's time to redistribute it, like you said, across the states and not make it a crime to try to survive as a human being.

Well, it can't be a crime.

I mean,

what kills me, Paul, is I said just a minute ago, we don't have a right to be safe from all things.

We don't.

That is an impossible.

God doesn't issue that right to human beings.

We're all going to die, and we're all going to die, some of us surprisingly in surprising different ways.

There is no right that God grants that we're all going to be safe.

The government cannot fulfill that right because it doesn't exist, and they're violating all the other rights that do exist to give us this political.

You've got paid bureaucrats dictating how everybody lives, which they're still receiving their paychecks.

I'm mad as hell because we've got our local county health officers giving edicts on what we're going to do and not do, and they're getting $15,000 a month, $30,000 every two months.

You know what the median income is here in that water?

$48,000 a year.

That's two people working.

And we've got these other people down here telling us what to do that make $130,000 to $200,000 a year, telling us how to live, how to breathe, how to do everything else, and they're not suffering a bit.

Paul, what happens to your city,

and how does this end?

Do you have any idea?

It's going to end

financially bad.

I can tell you that right now.

But what we've done, this council.

Why do you say wait, wait, why do you say that?

Why do you say that?

Just because of what the rest of the country and the world is going through or because of threats or why?

I think that we're going to end up financially in trouble because the devastation is going to be hard to recover after two, three months of

no economy whatsoever.

These businesses, I've got a local restaurant I've been going to for the last 30 years.

My kids have grown up eating there.

Little granny's restaurants, a little breakfast joint.

And there's a

70-year-old woman that runs the place, and she's doing everything with her son-in-law day to day.

They're doing takeout business.

I'm watching them be crushed every single day.

It would make you tear up.

It's heartbreaking because they just want to survive.

They just want to open the doors up.

I listen to her.

I go have coffee with her once in a while.

And, you know, 40 years she's been in the business trying to survive, and here's an unelected bureaucrat saying, you can't open, you can't do this, you can't do that.

And we've had enough.

We're not going to take it anymore.

Does the rest of California wake up or do they stick with these crazy discussions?

Well, there's two Californias.

There's the California, San Francisco, Oakland, and L.A.

There's 40 million people in California.

They outvote us, they outpopulate us.

That group sticks with the governor and the lockdown indefinitely because they're going to stay home with their feet up, laying in bed, scared to death.

The rest of us are going to be growing crops, manufacturing things, and trying to get out and earn living and just

be a free, safe human.

We have that right.

Paul,

thank you for renewing my hope and really defining a book that I wrote, the first book I ever wrote, called The Real America.

Thank you for defining The Real America and bringing it to life today.

Paul Crichton, Mayor of Atwater, California.

If there's anything your town or anything we can do to help you, you please reach out to us, Paul.

Thank you so much for everything you've done.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

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You know, I'm just looking at Sabo.

He's a conservative street artist in California.

This guy is so freaking brave.

I don't know how he does it.

I really don't know how he does it.

But he is like, what's the guy over in England?

Banksy.

And

he puts this street art out.

And it is, it's pro-freedom.

I mean, what he's doing now with open the beaches and

open California, He's putting these great pieces of art out into the public and does it overnight and you wake up and all of a sudden billboards have been changed and it's a political statement.

He's been deplatformed from Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, PayPal.

You have to go to see his work on his main website, unsavoryagents.com, unsavoryagents.com.

I have to buy one of his pieces of art only because, you know, the left, they hold up up their artists and artists are really important and they hold up their artists and we don't.

And I almost bought something of his

at one of these conventions and I got busy and I never came back.

I've got to support him.

He does incredible work.

He's going to be joining us because he is all over the lockdown overreach and

he is being really,

really brave.

And I think you should know about it.

In his own way, he's fighting the good fight in California.

He joins us in just a minute.

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Andrew Breitbart was absolutely right when he said that

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And Sabo is an artist.

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he's done some amazing things here recently.

But let me start with this.

Sabo, how are you, man?

I'm great, man.

Thanks Thanks for having me back on.

You bet.

I saw you.

I don't remember where it was, but you had a place set up

and you were selling some stuff.

And I was going to buy the Hillary 2016,

the stencil, which is great.

And I didn't get a chance to come back.

Do you still have one?

Because I'd like to buy one from you.

Yes, I do.

It's actually at unsavoryagents.com, but that one's still sitting here waiting for you.

Okay, good.

I will take it.

So I'll go to the unsavory agents.com and buy it online.

You could email me

and we'll wrap that thing up.

All right, good.

So, Sabo,

you are one of the bravest guys that I know of.

I don't know how you get away with this.

I don't know how you do it.

But people in California are very aware of your artwork because

you'll get up in the morning, you'll be driving along, and here's a brand new billboard that has been changed overnight, and it's your work.

How much, how, what's harder, coming up with the ideas, doing the work, or figuring out a way to put it up without getting caught?

Coming up with the ideas, it's like you'll get to the point to where you're up on a billboard and you'll see police cruisers drive by and you're wondering, how the hell am I getting arrested?

And

just

luck, man.

Fear almost goes out the window when you're doing that kind of work, but

I don't know.

It's all just

getting it up there.

You just get a crew together and have a few beers and more times than not, it's more fun than anything else.

It's so great.

I wanted to get you on because I saw the latest with Newsome.

Can you talk a little bit about the latest artwork that you've been putting up?

You've been very busy during the coronavirus thing, but your gruesome Newsome thing thing is just fantastic.

You want to explain it for people on the radio who can't see it?

Sure.

I saw this image of Newsom, and he looked like a great white shark.

He had the perfect face, the perfect skin, teeth, hair.

The man is nothing but a veneer.

And when I saw that photo of him, I thought, that looks just like a mask that a snake would use to trick somebody.

And so I made him look like a reptilian with a noose mask.

And it almost made itself.

How long do these things last before they're taken down?

They don't last very long at all.

That's why it's important for them to go viral and have people like you talk about them because I can't rely on them being on the street.

Yeah.

And California Psycho.

Tell me about that one.

Well, does he look like Christian Bale?

And I hate complimenting him like that, but he does.

He's a psycho.

Yeah, yeah, he looks.

I mean, you cannot trust a man that spends more time in front of a mirror than a woman.

So you have, you've you've put him into

the movie poster American Psycho with blood all over his blood all over his face, just like Christian Bale.

It must drive the Hollywood elite nuts because

you hijack the culture that they have so

painstakingly crafted and you use their own images against them.

Yeah, you know, and I can't believe how thin-skinned some of these people are.

They'll actually, like, like I had Jimmy Kimmel actually sit by one of my pieces and flip me off.

It's like, for God's sakes, man, there's a Brink truck, Brink's truck that drops millions of dollars every week at your house, and you're worried about me?

It's like, get a grit, man.

You know, make fun of yourself.

And the thought of Jutham, the thought of him taking the beaches away from Californians right before summer, you can't make that up.

I have to tell you, the other one that I saw were the beaches, and I want you to explain the beaches, but let me just take it here because it goes to the beach.

You've done several of these.

You've done, I'm in Texas, and you have taken the come and take it flag, and you have replaced it with a skateboard in one of the craziest stories I have ever heard.

That's not a public park.

That's a privately owned park.

And the city came in and just dumped truckloads of sand so nobody could be using their skateboard.

Yeah, you know, and you would think skateboarders are the biggest hellraisers on the planet.

If I was a skateboarder, if I used that park, I would go with a

five-gallon bucket and just take a hundred skateboarders with those buckets and just dump it in front of Garcetti's house here in LA.

But they're not going to do that.

They're too busy complying.

And then you also took the same flag, the black and white Texas come and take it flag, and you added surfboard, a surfboard

instead of a gun.

Yes, and I also made one with a fly rod as well, a fishing rod.

I can't believe they're letting people like,

you're not allowed to fish with more than two people, if you're even allowed to.

But you could drive in your car with six people, but only two people can be on the boat.

I mean, here in Los Angeles, Garcetti said, you can go to the beach, but you have to stand on the wet sands.

You can't be on the dry sand.

Where do they come up with these things?

I have no idea.

I have no idea.

So, is your

let me give one more thing that you've done on the COVID-19.

A great

invasion of the snitchers, which is like invasion of the body snatchers,

save a life call and reward.

Do you think these are resonating with people who are not necessarily fans of you from the past, but they're now starting to hit people?

I mean, is it changing things at all, do you think?

All I can say is there are a lot of Democrats in California that are sick of it.

And I'm getting tired of Republicans saying, I'm leaving California and moving to Texas.

It's like, why don't you stay and fight?

You know, it's like, because right now I believe California is poised to be taken over.

We have a chance here in California.

We just need to know how to play our cards because there's a lot of Democrats here that are just fed up.

I will tell you, Sable, I've talked to several people who

are Democrats,

but have seen how far the Democratic Party has gone, and this is even before coronavirus, and have told me that

they are in a

secret

chat with five different people that are in the same kind of category,

and they are all saying that they're not going to vote for the Democratic nominee because it's gotten as bad as Donald Trump is, they'll say.

What they are planning on doing on the Democratic side is the destruction of the capitalist system.

And they're all saying, we'll all be out of business.

This is going to be horrendous for everyone.

And we're not going to tell people that work for us, but we're all voting in another way.

I found it astounding.

Well, you know, we heard about the Green New Deal from AOC a while back, a few months back, and we figured there's absolutely no way you can implement something like that.

I mean, doesn't this smack of the Green New Deal?

It's like capitalism's being just destroyed.

It is.

I did an hour just this morning, the first hour of this broadcast, was about that, this new push for the Green New Deal and how deep it goes into with Soros and everybody else and how they are really looking at America and saying, let's see how far we can push them.

And this is our chance to completely redesign the world.

And personally,

I think it's a great chance for those who like freedom and the Constitution to do the same, to actually strengthen the Constitution and our given rights and look at things like state-run liquor licenses.

Why does the state have to do that?

Why does the state regulate all hair salons?

You know, we just talked to a mayor of California in Atwater who just said, we're out, but he can't protect those who have a state license.

And the license boards in the state are saying, we're going to put you out of business we'll revoke your license if you even open up against against gavin newsom's orders

academia is trying to make it to where an artist needs a license to do graphic design and that's just another way of them silencing us

where where did you hear that story i have not heard that where is that i i i read that years ago i mean they've been planning this forever and and if they can find a way to make well their justification is if someone's going to drop thousands of dollars into a logo or branding, well, then that person should be certified.

And

of course, you have to I'm serious, dude.

I got like a chill in my blood when I heard that because I know these schools, you have to be a full-on leftist to make it through an arts school to get that degree.

And

a guy like me simply wouldn't get the credentials.

I feel bad for that poor old man that just wants to cut hair.

I mean, why do you need a license to cut hair?

I will tell you this, Sabo.

I don't know if you have ever talked to anybody at the National Archives or the Smithsonian, but I can guarantee you that your art is being saved by the Smithsonian

because it will play a role.

It is playing a role in our story, our national story, and someday you will be recognized as who you really are, a really, truly great artist.

Do you have any museums or galleries or anybody?

Has anybody taken you on and said, no,

this is real art that needs to be showcased?

Only recently has that started to pick up a little bit.

I think even the people in the art world are starting to figure it out because I'm flying pieces off to London, Canada, New York, all over the place, Texas.

And I think it's just now picking up.

And you can see my work at unsavoryagents.com.

Forgive the plug, but it's like, no, no.

Yeah, people going to that site and supporting what I do.

I mean, I'd love to put a thousand of those gruesome newsome posters out.

But, I mean, that's going to run about a grand, $2,000.

And any help would definitely help.

It'll cost you $1,000 to put those posters out.

And so every t-shirt you sell

allows you to do

some more work, if you will.

Yeah, pretty much.

The money all goes back out in the street.

Yeah, that's great.

listen i i want to encourage sable thank you so much for what you do thank you for your bravery thanks for the artistic uh commentary and quite frankly the laughs um but uh i want to encourage the audience the left

they have a whole system that supports these artists that you know uh what do you call that it's blue yeah because it's a big canvas that's just blue i got it um and they'll they'll make sure that that artist is taken care of and that artist has a great career and it'll hang in some of the greatest houses in America and it'll be in some of the greatest museums.

Whatever, fine.

If you find that to be valuable, great.

But they take care of the left.

No one is taking care of the artists on the right.

And we really need to support our artists, especially those who are brave enough to stand up and speak out like Sabo is.

I urge you to go to unsavoryagents.com, buy a t-shirt.

You could get the

come and take it sign with the fishing or whatever

for like five bucks.

The t-shirts are 25 bucks.

Please go and support Sabo because I would love to see that he had a lot more than $1,000 to go put some more of these gruesome newsome posters up because they're hysterical.

Hysterical.

And Sabo,

you bet.

I'll be in touch this afternoon and I want to get one of the Hillary 16 because I think they are brilliant and something that should be, that will be valuable down the road once we get past all of this insanity of political correctness.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet.

Sabo, you can follow him on Instagram, SaboArt.

He has been deplatformed, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, PayPal.

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