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Today, we talk about the wonderful growth for the Democratic Socialists of America.

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Representative Chris Stewart talks to us about the latest developments with Michael Flynn.

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Governor Jay Inslee from the great state of Washington

has now laid plans out for statewide contact tracing initiative.

Sounds like fun.

The initiative is robust, I'm quoting, it's vigorous, and it's comprehensive.

Wow, it sounds like Common Core.

And he said it needs to be all three to be successful.

If we don't succeed in this second stage of our efforts, this virus might come back and bite us.

I got news for you.

It's going to come back.

It's going to come back next fall and it's going to come back the fall after and it's going to come back the fall after that.

It's always going to be with us.

Okay.

It's like the flu.

It's good.

No, I don't mean the symptoms.

It's like the flu.

It's a virus.

It's a virus.

Okay.

Contract tracing involves interviewing people with positive COVID-19 tests to identify who they've been in contact with, getting those people tested and making sure they isolate themselves and their families.

Okay, so wait.

So now you have to keep a list of everybody that you've come in contact with, and then you have to give that list.

Let me see who you've been talking to.

It will be interesting.

Obviously, some of that, right, is very basic disease prevention, right?

If there's a measles outbreak, they would do that.

I mean, it's, you know, that's just interviewing.

They've been doing that forever.

The question is, when it comes to a Jay Inslee approach to that, is it going very,

very far down that road?

Well, he needs 100% compliance.

Just 100%.

100% compliance.

Just 100%.

He needs 100%.

And they're going to send people to your home.

And they're going to be conducting these interviews.

And if you refuse to take another test or self-isolate or give them the names of people you have been with lately,

then

I want to quote him exactly.

We will have attached to the families a family support person who will check in with them to see what they need on a daily basis and help them.

If they can't get a friend to do their grocery shopping, we'll help them with their groceries in some fashion.

As far as refusal, it shouldn't come to that.

And it really hasn't so far.

We've had good success.

But individuals that refuse to cooperate with contact tracers or refuse testing will not be allowed to leave their homes to purchase basic necessities as groceries or prescriptions.

So there's going to starve the people to death if they don't agree with this?

No, no, no, no.

He said they're going to have somebody to go grocery shopping for you.

You'll just be in prison in your home.

You will not be allowed to ever leave your home unless you participate.

And only 100% need to do that.

Oh, okay.

So yovo.

Because I thought what he was saying was if you participate in the program, they will bring you the groceries because you're icey.

So

you're saying if they don't participate in the program, they're still going to shop for them?

Yeah, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

The family support who will check and see what they need.

Oh, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

You're right.

You're right.

We're just going to starve them out.

Eventually, they're going to be like, oh, take my names.

I'm really hungry.

I need Cheetos.

And eventually it works.

You know what?

It worked in those really nice.

I don't know if you saw these, the subdivisions that the Germans made in Poland for the Jews.

They were beautiful little subdivisions.

It was a gated community that they built.

And I think this is wonderful.

Now, I was thinking that it might be a little Hitlerian

to do this.

But then I thought,

I'm not sure, because this sounded familiar.

And so I looked this up.

And that no man might buy or sell save that he had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

That's from a little book.

I don't remember.

It's kind of a dusty book.

But there was something about not being able to buy, sell, get groceries, anything, unless you received the mark.

And

most people, right, are

very interested if they find out they've had COVID, right, to tell the people they've been in contact with that they have COVID so they can get tested.

That's something that most people are going to want to do.

That doesn't mean that they want to play with Jay Inslee.

Right, right.

But some people may not.

I mean, you know, we had this with the AIDS virus.

There were people that went out intentionally, and those people went to jail.

They went out intentionally to infect people.

Okay, that's different.

But now I have to have a list of everybody I've come in contact with.

And you know what they say?

The supporters of this said it's really not going to be a problem because we'll just monitor the cell phones of everybody that comes into contact with them anyway.

Oh my gosh.

Okay, even more scary.

Now,

the county of Los Angeles has partnered with hotel associations to identify sites that will meet the operational needs of the program that they're unveiling, and that is housing the homeless to make sure that that they don't have coronavirus

and

commandeer.

They need to have rooms that they can lock down people.

And so they're now saying that if the hotels don't participate, they will just commandeer the hotels.

They will just take those hotels over.

The city of Los Angeles is saying this.

Could I, may I just point out, we're on a crazy train to hell here.

I mean, you know, I am, I am actually, I believe Dr.

Fauci, I don't, I believe that he believes he's right, and I believe he is instructing us just on health.

There needs to be the balance of psychological help, uh, our rights, and our economy.

Okay,

so when we balance him, I'm fine.

Uh, but the media seems to only be taking his side of it and then trying to pit him against Donald Trump to break up this relationship like they do all the time.

And, you know, I would just like to ask the liberals and the media, you split those two apart.

If you actually believe that Donald Trump is trying to kill everybody in the country and Dr.

Fauci is the hero, what the hell are you doing getting him out of the White House?

What are you doing?

Yeah, wouldn't your goal be to write the stories about how they have a really good working relationship and how

Donald Trump, like you, you understand how this stuff works.

You come out here and make a media, you divide.

It's like if your friend is dating a girl that you don't like and you're just constantly leaking, you know, trying to break them up because it's irritating to you.

No, no, no.

May I give you a real world

example on just exactly what you're saying?

The guy who I grew up with, Robert,

he's like my brother, okay?

He lived in my house for a long time and we grew up together.

And I was dating a girl in high school.

And he, as my best friend, and he would say all the time, I mean, why are you dating her?

I mean, I don't get it.

I mean, really?

Yeah, I don't get it.

I mean,

just, I mean,

really?

And so it just planted a seed of doubt.

And I'm like, oh, maybe he's right.

He, as soon as I broke up, he started dating her.

He's now married to her.

He's married to her.

Okay.

I mean,

yes, Colleen,

I dated Colleen.

And Robert was right.

I mean, the one time we did kiss, it was like I kissed her goodnight at the doorstep and it was, and we both looked at each other and went, That was weird.

It was like, it was like kissing your sister or something.

So he was right about it, but he's the guy who was planning the scene of doubt.

And that's what the media is doing.

Yeah, and they will wind up dating Fauci if they break them up, right?

Like that's what they want to do.

He'll be a CNN.

Yeah, he'll be a CNN

roundtable commentator.

And I will say this about Fauci because he takes a lot of heat from the right.

And as you point out, even in his testimony, he says, I'm not advising on economic matters at all.

He's just saying that he thinks if the working world for a medical, like I don't understand how people don't get that relationship.

Job.

That's his job.

That's his job.

Okay, real quick, because I've got so much.

We have Chris Stewart coming up in a second.

I've got to just just shoehorn some of the, pardon the pun on this one.

South African stores will now only sell shoes if they are closed toe

and short-sleeve shirts if they are promoted or displayed to be worn under jackets or jerseys.

So in other words, if you have a really cool t-shirt and it has a design and it's displayed or promoted as somebody just wearing a t-shirt, you can't sell it.

So you the if undergarments are made for warmth you can sell them crop bottoms worn with boots or leggings are okay

but crop bottoms without boots or leggings you cannot sell

this

is

craziness it is absolutely craziness

and it's not a coincidence that something else is happening at exactly the same time here in America.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

I wanted to bring Congressman Chris Stewart on.

Chris is a friend of mine and a friend of the program.

He is serving now on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, also on the Budget Committee and the Appropriations Committee.

So there's a lot to talk to him about.

But I wanted to start with Michael Flynn.

Welcome, Chris.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn.

I was up near your ranch the other day and it's beautiful up there.

You should come on up.

I am dying to go up there.

So people know who you are.

Number one New York Times best-selling author of fiction.

I mean, really great stuff.

World record-setting Air Force pilot.

You were an owner and CEO of a small business.

Now you went to Congress.

You have a lot of credibility on intelligence, but you're also on this intelligence committee.

So I kind of wonder if you can even tell us stuff because you get in serious trouble unless it's all out in the open, right?

Yeah, and the other thing, Glenn, is we actually, Republicans, abide by the rules.

And that's why this thing with Michael Flynn, the unmasking, and the list goes on and on.

This is stuff that we've known for three years, but we couldn't talk to people about.

Because unlike some of my Democratic colleagues, we don't go down in the skiff and then go out and leak it to the press so that they can be dishonest and lie about people and create this false narrative.

And what we've seen with General Flynn is absurd that this thing went forward the way it did, these accusations against him.

I can't tell you how many times I talked to you and said, Chris, what's really going on?

You were in all of these things where you heard Brennan and Clapper and Power and everyone else, Rice, saying, We have zero evidence.

There's no evidence on any of this.

How that must have killed you not to say, while they were on television, saying, oh, yeah, I mean, they're getting close to something.

Yeah.

I mean, we are

a classified setting where they have to tell the truth, and they answer these questions.

Nope, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence.

And then they go upstairs, and I'm talking about the clappers and the comys and the others in the world who then go on television and say, oh, yeah, the walls are closing in.

Oh, yeah, I actually think he might be a Russian puppet.

And for us to not be able to respond to that, other than just to say, it's not true.

And people would look

if you lost your mind because the evidence says that it is true.

And for three years we've lived with that.

So Chris, this is the time to respond.

Are these people going to be prosecuted?

I think Attorney General Barr is the most important man in America right now next to the president.

And I really mean that because he is the person with his assistants or Mr.

Durham who are, they're like a starving dog on a bone on this.

And they are committed and always have been to A, telling people the truth and to B

work through whatever legal process is appropriate.

The problem that we have, and this is, I mean, so the good news is I think there will be, there certainly should be, and I think the American people are going to demand it the more they understand this.

The problem is, and this is the concern I have, is as talking with the Attorney General a few weeks ago, he said these are smart people and they had time to cover their tracks.

So he's got a a challenge ahead of him.

He's not working

doing a job against a bunch of fools.

But Glenn, you can't look at this information and it begs the question about will they be held accountable?

And they have to be.

Chris, if

I was talking to somebody yesterday who's a really logical, he and his wife, really logical.

They're big Trump supporters.

And

in the course of a conversation, he said, you know, we're even starting to doubt Trump.

And I said, what?

And he said, yeah, I know, it's crazy.

But I thought, you know, for a couple of days last week, I was like, maybe he's being blackmailed.

Is he being blackmailed?

I said,

what would make you say that?

And he said, immediately, you know what it is, Glenn?

I don't trust anyone because everyone lies about everything and no one's held accountable.

And so what am I supposed to do?

When I see something that doesn't fit, I immediately now now jump to the crazy thoughts because crazy stuff is happening and no one is paying a price.

You and I both know, Chris, a marriage will not survive if there is not trust.

There's no trust in America.

If we don't restore trust, we do not make it.

No, I couldn't agree with you more, Glenn.

I came back from...

Moscow, this was a couple of years ago, and I was doing some talks to some people about that.

And I did an interview, and someone asked me, and we get asked this question all the time because you know sitting on the intel committee it's what we do they say what's the greatest threat facing our nation again i was asked that question and without thinking i said it's that no one knows what is true anymore and i surprised myself the answer but i was thinking about it after and i thought that's absolutely true that is the foundation upon which everything that we have is based and we've lost that and and and let me ask you this as a as a kind of an appendage to that if two fbi agents came in and just said to you hey we just want to chat with you about something there's no one in the country who would do that any longer.

I mean, this institution, it's just so important to us under the leadership of Comey has lost that trust that you were talking about, that foundation of what is true anymore.

And it's going to take a long time for us to rebuild that to where people can say, I think this is true and this is good and this isn't.

We've lost that.

Chris, somebody, if this stuff isn't exposed entirely and they're not cleared out, somebody needs to go to jail.

A good guy needs to go to jail to say, this is what's going on, and I know I'm violating all kinds of codes, but no one's doing anything.

And the American people have to know.

You want to arrest me for exposing this?

Then arrest me.

Because we don't survive if this is not cleared up.

Talk to me a little bit about

unmasking.

They say this is no big deal.

It happens all the time.

Tell me how this is different.

Well, then let's ask this question.

How many times did the Vice President of the United States ask for a U.S.

person's name to be unmasked in the eight years he was in office?

And who was it?

Because that will give this context.

You know, if it turns out that Vice President Biden is asking for people to be unmasked on a daily basis, then yeah, you're right.

That's not a big deal.

But if it turns out he wasn't, then that begs further questions.

How many times did Susan Rice ask for unmaskings in the two months between the election and the inauguration, and compare that with her activity in unmasking in the previous number of years?

That's what gives this context.

And if they can argue, hey, we were unmasking U.S.

citizens all the time, then there's no there there.

But if it turns out that they weren't, and by the way, they weren't, then this does give us a greater understanding into what motivated them to unmask unmask on particularly, not just General Flynn, but particularly on Jekyll Flynn.

Because it was

politically motivated.

It also

has to be answered.

You know, Samantha Power, she's the Secretary of the U.N.

Why is she unmasking Flynn seven times in a month?

Why is she doing that?

And then saying,

I didn't do that.

It might have been somebody else.

Isn't that a breach of your security clearance in the first place?

But why is she unmasking?

And did that information go to someone else

and then use that as I was talking to a very high-level source who said this, this, and this?

That's how the media was was getting all of this was from these unmaskings.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

And that's the key to this.

Look, if you can justify your unmasking, then as a normal course of your work, then I accept that.

Or if perhaps

there's just a question there, I mean, that's fair.

But there's got to be two things to that.

Number one is, was there a justification?

Because in this unmasking process, you're supposed to put the reason for why.

It can't just be random.

You have to have an actual reason why.

And did this is a question on their request, did they justify it?

And then the second thing, which is

why this?

Yep.

Well, I'm going to say the second thing is, who did you talk to about that?

Because we know that this was leaked.

And Glenn, this is important.

It's not just General Flynn that's important about this.

This revealed the fact that we were listening to the Russian ambassador.

And a lot of people didn't realize that before.

And now everyone in the world knew.

It actually

hindered our ability to gather intelligence.

This was an important national security element to this, leaking.

And that's the key to this, who unmasked, but more importantly, who talked to the press about it?

Any doubt that Obama is involved in this?

Well, I mean, how do you explain a January 5th meeting?

Yeah, that's exactly right.

If you'd asked me that some time ago, I would have said I don't know.

Although he is involved in this, and

this is vague, but it's very, very important.

He's the one who selected these leaders.

And by proxy, he's responsible for the police.

The Susan Rice memo that she wrote walking out of the office said the president wanted to make sure that we did it by the book, that we didn't involve ourselves in the normal course of justice, that we didn't tell the police or investigators what to do.

On January 5th, it's documented, that's what he held a meeting for, and with Comey and everybody else, and told them, get him.

They were ready to drop the case.

Yeah, and that's the point I was just going to make is a couple of months ago, I didn't know how to ask that question.

But now we have to ask this question about what did the president know at that time?

Because during that meeting, he was aware of things, already aware of things, that no one claims responsibility for having briefed him for.

We don't know how he knew about the Michael Flynn

investigation that's going forward.

Because so far, everyone has denied ever talking to him about that.

Correct.

So I think there's some questions about that that need to be asked.

Okay.

Let me just play.

Do we have from yesterday the Senator Church meet the press audio?

Okay, I want to play something for you, Chris.

This is Senator Church from the Church Commission, 1975.

Remember that date, 1975.

Think of the technology and how it's changed since.

This is what he said when we found a little bit of this in 1975.

There would be no place to hide

if this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose

total tyranny.

And there would be no way to fight back.

Because the most careful effort

to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, was within the reach of the government to know.

Such is the capability of this technology.

Now, why is this investigation important?

I'll tell you why.

Because I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge.

I know the capacity that is there

to make tyranny total in America.

And we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision supervision so that we never cross over that abyss.

That's the abyss from which there is no return.

We've crossed the abyss.

Are there enough people in Congress and the Senate that will demand

that these people are held accountable and it does stop now?

Well, Glenn, I hope so.

I'm going to answer it that way.

But I can tell you that there are a number of us.

Remember, again,

the work we did on the Intel Committee for three years has been focused on this how many times have I said to people you can't give the Department of Justice the FBI these other agencies the power to know everything

about you to read your emails to look at your computer to talk to your friends to go through your garbage give them that power and then say hey go do whatever you want we don't we don't want to know we trust you it can never be that case that can never be the case that we don't hold them accountable and that's what we've been trying to do now for years in this case.

And by the way, Glenn, it stuns me how many people seem to be comfortable with a police state.

How many people are actually defending this and saying, hey, it's no big deal.

You guys are paranoid.

It's another conspiracy theory.

You know, you're investigating the investigators, breaking down the rule of law.

For heaven's sakes, that's nonsense.

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So Liberty University

did the unconventional thing.

Well, everybody else panicked and just sent everybody home.

Liberty University decided that they were going to just be smart and

do online classes because they're a leader in online classes.

They've been doing it since 1985.

And

their online stuff is really, really good.

But they decided just to send whoever they could home.

But there were foreign students and other people that had elderly parents or grandparents that live with them, and they couldn't go home.

So they kept them in the dorms and they did all kinds of things just to keep everybody safe.

Well, as you could imagine, oh, these Christian nuts are crazy, and they're going to get us all killed.

Well, as it turns out, no, the opposite happened.

They are now the model for what schools should be doing to be able to open back up.

That hasn't stopped the New York Times and others from really lying about what was happening at Liberty University.

But no stranger to controversy, Jerry Falwell is now going to sue the New York Times for some of the things they did.

Welcome to the program, Jerry Falwell.

How are you?

I'm doing wonderful.

Is this Dr.

Glenn Beck?

It is.

It is.

It is.

That is one of the greatest things anybody's ever done for me.

I just love it.

It's provided lots of

very good memories, Jerry.

It's good to talk to you, my friend.

So, first of all, congratulations on not backing down, doing the right thing for the students, and I think for the country.

Tell us the steps that you did take because you just didn't say, we don't care.

We're opening up the doors.

You took it seriously.

What did you do?

Well, you know, there were some schools, some Ivy Leaf schools that didn't even do online.

They were too good for that.

So they just sent everybody home.

So, you know, your credit this semester is your problem.

Forget it.

There were a lot of other schools who did exactly what we did, Texas A ⁇ M, USC, Virginia Tech.

And all that was, it was simply, we did not reopen.

During spring break, the governor decided, issued an executive order, said no more than 100 people in a gathering.

Well, we have lots of classes with over 100 students.

And then he went down to 10 during spring break.

Well, obviously

we couldn't start classes again.

So we went to the all online format, which we've got one of the best in the world.

And then

we realized quickly that there's students who can't do online at home because they don't have high-speed internet.

And there's students who have elderly relatives at home.

And there are students, international students, who can't go home.

So we knew we were going to have to house a certain number of students.

And so, just like USC and Texas AM and Virginia Tech, we housed those students.

And we implemented measures.

We had two surprise inspections by the Governor Blackface, who came down and

gave us glowing reports on how well we were complying with every order.

We had this social distancing.

We had signs on chairs saying, don't sit here, but okay to sit here.

And we had all the academic buildings open.

A campus built for 16,000 had 1,200 people on it.

And so it was like a ghost town.

We had all takeout food at all the restaurants.

We had cleaning.

I mean, we had double the force of janitors cleaning every hour.

And we had, you know,

just every imaginable step that that could possibly be taken to uh protect our students we put up no trespassing signs at every entrance to keep the cases that might be in the community from leaking into campus if you didn't have official business on campus you were for forbidden to come on campus.

Well guess who violated

trespassing warrants

I was just gonna say that stopped everybody except the New York Times.

Except the New York Times.

That's right.

So we swore out warrants

for their arrest, and we've been working with local

Commonwealth attorney here, and

it's working out fine.

They're admitting their wrongdoing.

But we just,

you know, we have no choice but to sue because when the New York Times reported that there were 12 COVID,

what they basically said in the Financial Times is there were 12 COVID cases on campus.

Well, that was completely false.

They had talked to a doctor who didn't even work for Liberty, who owned a practice in town, and he had described to the reporter, just because he's a nice guy, that, yeah, we've had some upper respiratory, you know, colds and allergies and different things, and about 11 or 12 of them.

Well,

he actually gave us the text that he sent to the reporter that said, I have no official role at Liberty University.

I'm just telling you what I've seen at my practice.

But that's not what they printed.

They printed 12 COVID cases at Liberty.

We had none.

The students left May 6th and we had absolutely zero cases of any student, faculty, or staff on campus.

We had a couple of off-campus cases like bus drivers whose family members had it, but as soon as they learned it, or was just one, I shouldn't say family members, but as soon as they learned that they had it, they quit working.

They went and got tested.

Everybody who had been around them was quarantined, tested negative.

So we did everything imaginable to protect our students and our campus community.

But yet, Texas Texas, Arizona State had 15 positive cases.

They did the same thing we did.

No bad press.

Texas A.M., no bad press for doing what we did.

Yeah.

So why, why, why you, Jerry?

I mean, I know the answer, but why you guys?

Well, the same reason, I believe, this is my theory, they spent three years on Russia, then the impeachment, and then lately hyping this thing.

Of course, this is a serious thing, but I think the media has hyped it, and most doctors will agree with that, way beyond where it should have been hyped.

I think it's because they know what's coming from John Durham.

And I think they've known since election night, 2016, when Hillary Clinton came out and

the next day, and she said this is going to be painful for a long time.

She knew

I think she meant that I think she said that because she knew what they had done, what the Obama Justice Department had done.

And then all the shenanigans they pulled between the election and the inauguration and you know, John Durham, my dad used to say, you know, you never know how long a snake is until you kill it.

And so he's in the process of killing the snake, and

there's no telling how long that snake's going to be.

My opinion.

I think this is bigger than Watergate ever was.

And

it involves the New York Times and everybody else that aided all of these people.

They're not coming out.

You know they're guilty because now that we have the documents that prove that the people that were on their air were lying because they went to under oath and they said we've got nothing then they'd go on the air and say yeah we're really close I can't talk about it but the next shoe is gonna drop that they haven't ratted those people out and said I demand an apology we you know we we've trusted you as a source it shows that they they don't care or they were part of it

and and I think this I think this thing's gonna rain down like like fire on their heads and I think they've seen that coming for a long time so they've been desperately trying to do a preemptive strike

against not just Trump, but anybody who supported Trump.

And that happened to include me.

So

I'm fine with it, though.

I don't lose a bit of sleep.

I think the worst thing that could happen is they stop talking about you.

My dad used to say there's no such thing as bad publicity.

There's a lot of truth in that.

Yeah.

Jerry, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

I'm glad we could

clear this up for the people that, you know, maybe the two people that read the New York Times on what was happening at Liberty University.

But thanks for your leadership.

Appreciate it.

Wow.

It would be great to have you back at Liberty sometime soon.

You would recognize the place.