Best of The Program | Guest: Mike Lindell | 3/31/20

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So, today we have an update on what happened to the couple that took fish tank cleaner thinking it would cure the coronavirus that they didn't have, killing one of them.

There's a great update to that one, and the story just doesn't get any better.

We also talk about modern monetary theory.

What is modern monetary theory?

It's basically you can just spend as much as you want, just keep printing if you want to spend that money.

Well, we're basically trying that now in the United States, and we have an update on that.

A couple more trillion dollars going out the door minimum.

And Bill de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo, we get into that.

Someone in the Cuomo family has coronavirus.

We'll tell you who that is.

And as well, we'll get into the My Pillow attack.

Mike Lindell from My Pillow was at the press conference, got bashed by the media, comes on to tell the story today

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Total confirmed cases worldwide, 799,995.

That's up from 735 yesterday.

The confirmed deaths worldwide, 38,735.

5% of active cases are still considered serious, requiring hospitalization.

Note that 11% of U.S.

confirmed cases require hospitalization, roughly on par with Italy at at 12%.

The U.S.

now has 164,359 confirmed cases and 3,173 deaths.

That is up considerably from yesterday.

We had 2,400 deaths as of this time yesterday.

Less than 0.6% of the total U.S.

population has been tested.

15% of that 0.6%

of America who have been tested have been diagnosed with COVID-19.

So how did the president make this decision?

Apparently, it was Dr.

Fochie, the chief medical advisor for the Corona Task Force,

and his cohort, Dr.

Debbie Burks.

They went in, apparently, to the Oval Office on Sunday.

leaned over the Resolute Desk and put out all of the papers and showed all of the charts and then just stood there while the president looked at it.

Fauci said, interestingly, we showed him the data.

He looked at the data, got it right away.

It's a pretty clear picture.

Dr.

Debbie Burks and I went in together, leaned over his desk, said, take a look.

The president reportedly looked at them, understood the implications, and shook his head and said, wow, I guess we got to do it.

Medically, this is the right decision, decision, and I stand behind it 100%, Fauci said.

From a public health standpoint, we felt strongly that it would have been wrong to pull back at this point, where scientists, physicians, public health officials, we're not economists, were sensitive to the idea that the economy could suffer, but we weigh that against the tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of Americans' life.

It was blatantly obvious looking at the data that at the end of the day, if we try to push back prematurely, not only would we lose lives, but it would probably hurt the economy as as well.

So we would lose on double accounts.

So there was no question as what the right choice was.

Now, Washington, D.C., Virginia, Maryland have now joined the states issuing house arrest orders.

Maryland and Virginia became the latest states on Monday to enact a stay-at-home mandate amid the coronavirus outbreak, except for essential travel for work.

Virginia's order is in effect till June 10th, making it one of the longest statewide mandates implemented so far.

Maryland's penalties for violating its owners are among some of the strictest in the country, including a thousand dollar fine and up to thirty days in jail for repeat offenders.

Holy cow.

In total, more than 210 million Americans now effectively live under some form of house arrest or shelter-in-place type orders, with another 50 million facing travel or shopping or eating restrictions.

Only six states do not have closed schools.

Healthcare workers now using forklifts to load dead bodies into refrigerated trucks in New York.

Did you see this video, Stu?

Yeah.

This video is really disturbing from

Brooklyn.

It was posted.

Do we have that video?

Can we run that here?

This video is

posted by a guy

in, I think, Brooklyn

who was just walking by and he said oh my gosh look it's this giant 18 wheeler and they are loading dead bodies into it it's a refrigerated truck and you could see the camera start shaking and he says I'm sorry my hands are shaking

because this is this is real

this is no joke this is the Brooklyn hospital

And he said,

this should make you take it seriously.

Now,

can we play the part of Ron Paul where he says this is

not real, I guess?

Can we play this?

I want to hear it for myself.

Well, I think it's blown way out of proportion to the danger.

And it seems that some people benefit from crises like this, people who want more government power and more control over people and want to get big appropriations and get their special deals passed.

And that's what's happening now.

Everybody's, it's a grab bag.

So

it's being used

and I don't see it as

a problem dealing with one virus.

I think it's dangerous when people get the virus and they're already sick or elderly and have other conditions.

But I think millions of people probably have had the infection and still do.

But it's used as an excuse by those who have a special interest to use that.

And

I think that that is sad, but hopefully they'll wake up soon and say, well, it wasn't quite as bad as they thought.

And maybe it's a combination of the virus along with another disease or medication or somebody's immune system.

That's the problem.

How much of that do you agree with, Stu?

I mean, he's totally right that they're going to try to exploit the situation

as much as they can.

They've already done it multiple times, and that's certainly going to continue.

$2 trillion infrastructure bill now.

I do.

$2 trillion.

This is insane.

And that's another one.

That's not the $2 trillion we've already spent or the $2 trillion

for that.

This is a new one that the president.

And again, we should point out, this is not how these things end, right?

As you kind of noted, this is the opening offer from the Republican side on a bill is $2 trillion.

They'll go for more.

The Democrats will go for more.

Yeah, I was looking back at

our notes from earlier, and I had this story.

This is a big story at the time.

Chuck Schumer decided he had to go bold.

This is this quote.

We need to go big, bold, urgent federal action to deal with this crisis.

The kind of measures we're putting together will mainline money into the economy and directly into the hands of families that need it.

His proposal was for $750 billion.

That was for the last bill that wound up at $2.2 trillion.

Chuck Schumer was asking for $750 billion and it ended at $2.2 trillion.

Now we have the Republican side starting at $2 trillion.

What's this one going to end up as?

Can't even imagine what this is going to be.

How?

How do we, we don't, we don't.

How do we?

I mean, this is

really concerning.

This is really concerning.

We are,

we have

crossed the Rubicon, I think.

There's no accountability anymore.

It's just we're going to spend, spend, spend.

There's really no party that opposes the spending at this point.

I mean, at times in the past, Republicans have voiced opposition to the spending, but they don't even voice it anymore.

The Democrats obviously have always wanted more of it.

So we are going into

an era now that goes far beyond Keynesian economics, but to the point of legitimate modern monetary theory.

I mean, we really are going to this place where whatever we want, we get by printing more money.

Let's see what happens.

You know, people were making fun of Rashida Talib a couple of weeks ago for saying that she wanted to get two $1 trillion coins to pay for the last bill,

which, again, I don't understand.

Wait.

Wait, two,

two

trillion dollar coins?

Why not one $2 trillion coin?

I don't know the answer to it.

Well, don't know.

I mean, I do.

That's clear.

It's clear.

I mean, you want two buyers.

I mean, the odds of finding one buyer for a trillion-dollar coin

is hard enough.

To find one buyer for a $2 trillion coin, and

you cut down all the bargaining power.

Hey, buy one, get the second one half price.

Oh, yeah.

All of that stuff.

And I'll say, too, if you go in and try to buy something with it, they're not going to have enough change for a $2 trillion coin, likely in most grocery stores.

Can you break a $2 trillion coin?

And they'll say, no.

Do you have a $1 trillion?

Oh.

I know.

I don't.

Yeah.

I don't see.

This is going to be...

Here's the fun part.

The $1 trillion coin is going to be our normal mode of currency.

Oh, you're actually bringing to grocery stores very soon if we don't stop doing this.

Yeah.

No, it'll be the one

with George Washington's head on it.

It'll be the quarter, except it'll be etched in by New York prisoners $25 trillion.

I mean, this is, Glenn, this is unbelievable.

I understand we are in the middle of something serious.

I don't downplay it.

I mean, I think we have a couple weeks here to hopefully see.

Most of the models seem to peak the worst of this thing in a couple of weeks.

If that happens, you know, can we reverse it?

And all these things?

I hope so.

But the idea that we can just sit here and just spend our way out of it is not, that's not how this works.

You know, there's not going to be a bridge is not going to solve the coronavirus issue.

You don't do it by paving roads.

So

here's what the president may be looking at.

Last night,

the Fed came out and said the job loss could be 47

million people,

and unemployment may hit 32%.

Again, I don't,

we just spent $2 trillion to make sure that didn't happen.

Why did we spend the $2 trillion if it were going to like

these, the bill itself, yes, it gives $1,200 to every American in a certain

income bracket.

Everybody knows that part of it because it's the only part anybody's talked about.

But it also offers money to small businesses to pay the salary of your employees, the mortgages of your businesses, all of the tightly sort of associated costs that would come from your business operating in an environment where you're told you're not allowed to open it.

That's exactly what the bill does for small businesses.

And then larger businesses have resources and big loans and all sorts of things that are guaranteed.

And the loans to small businesses,

if you pocket the money, you have to pay it back.

But if you pay it to your employees and you pay it for mortgage and you pay it for operational expenses, the bill is written in a way that those loans will be forgiven, which, of course, that's not a loan, right?

It's a giveaway with conditions.

That's all supposed to be in here, and it's supposed to protect against exactly what you're talking about.

It's not supposed to go.

Well,

we should know that this week, shouldn't we?

We'll know more about it.

If we have a, yeah, I mean, if we have another really horrible, I mean, the problem is, is things like

oil.

Do you realize that oil may actually,

they may start paying you to buy a barrel of oil?

It may go below zero, the price of oil.

And you would ask, how is that possible?

Because they're not stopping production in Russia or Saudi Arabia.

And so they're running out of places.

to hold it.

That's why your gas is now...

These people who bought the gas even a week ago, they're losing their shirts on the gas.

You know, know, they're charging 99 cents.

That's not what they paid for it when they pumped it into the ground.

And so they're losing their shirts, but

there's so much gas available, and everybody's pressuring, take the gas, take the oil.

Well, at what price do we stop taking oil because there's no place to put it?

I mean, it is, it's remarkable on what is being done to really, truly, you couldn't design an economic collapse any better than

what we're doing all around the world and what all these countries and all of these huge businesses and governments, you couldn't design it any better than it has been designed so far.

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Do you remember the couple that ingested the the fish tank cleaner

last week?

Yes.

Tell me the story.

Tell me the story, the best of your recollection.

Well, because Donald Trump made it sound like

the fish tank cleaner was a cure for the coronavirus, they took it.

They ingested it.

And, of course, it nearly killed him.

That was basically it from the media.

All right.

So now the Washington Free Beacon has found their names.

They established the identities through descriptions in the local news reports.

The pair identified as Gary 68, Wanda61.

Free Beacon is withholding their identities at Wanda's request.

However, the Federal Election Commission records show that Wanda has donated thousands of dollars to Democratic electoral groups and candidates over the last two years, including Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Emily's List, a group that aims to elect pro-choice female candidates.

And in fact,

her most recent donations went

in February to a Democratic PACT, the 314 Action Fund, that bills itself.

Well, I'll tell you what it bills itself as in a minute.

But according to the Free Beacon,

Wanda said that she and her husband are both Democrats.

They're not Trump supporters.

They heard about the potential benefits of chloroquine, chloroquine, an anti-malarial drug, in news reports.

She said, decided at the spur of the moment to try taking it, but reach for the fish tank cleaner in the pantry that contains chloroquine phosphate, a different and deadly form of the chemical.

Oops.

She said, we're not big supporters of Trump, but we did see that they were using it in China and stuff.

And we just made a horrible, tragic mistake.

It was stupid and horrible.

We should have never done it, but it's done now, and I've lost my husband.

And my whole life was my husband.

We didn't think it would kill us.

We thought it would help us because that's what we'd been hearing on the news.

We saw Trump on TV on every channel and all of his buddies that this was safe, she said.

Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure.

She said,

you shouldn't believe anything that this president says.

By the way, the PAC that she donated a lot of money to here recently was the 314 Action Fund that is billed as the pro-science resistance group.

Are they resisting science?

Because that would actually fit.

I think they are.

I think they are.

She said, don't believe anything this president says to people.

She's in shock still over her husband's death.

We were having the best day before it happened.

I made him his favorite lunch, grilled steak and asparagus and red potatoes.

We were just having the best Sunday.

And that's when I went and got the chloroquin phosphate.

Which is not what the president was talking about.

Not at all.

Yeah, he never told anybody to take the fish tank cleaner.

Don't do that.

Right.

Nor did he say it was.

It was a cure, even in the right form of it.

He said they were going to test it, and he was hopeful.

Yeah.

Now, you know what's really interesting?

And he also said, talk to your doctor.

Talk to your doctor.

What's interesting is

there's two quotes from her.

First one is from the Washington Free Beacon.

She decided at spur of the moment to try taking it, but reached for the fish tank cleaner, phosphate, blah, blah, blah, different from the chemical.

She said, we weren't big supporters, but we did see that they were using it in China and stuff.

We made a horrible, tragic mistake.

Okay, that's in the Washington Free Beacon.

Here's the interview with NBC.

In the NBC, she said, she said, don't take the president's words.

Oh, my gosh, don't take anything he says.

Don't believe anything that the president says and his people.

So I'm...

I'm wondering why she didn't say that to the Washington Free Beacon or if she was prompted into that, or she's trying to make herself feel less stupid by blaming it on the president of the United States.

I'm going with that.

Yes, I'm going with the latter.

She's trying to make herself feel less stupid.

She also knows who she's talking to when she's talking to them.

I mean, the NBC people are going to be more receptive to the don't listen to anything the president says than the Washington Free Beacon is.

But yeah, I I missed the speech where the president said, hey, if you have a fish tank, you know what you ought to do?

He's run over and

grab the cleaner and just ingest it, and then you'll be protected from the coronavirus.

Go ahead and do that.

Well, I mean, like, we all know that you can eat fish, but you don't go to your fish tank and eat the fish out of there.

No, you don't.

You don't just go to fish tank.

Like, there happens to be a similar word that happens to be associated with the fish tank.

That doesn't make it okay to eat.

No, that's true.

General rule.

That's true.

Rule of life.

Yeah.

I mean, if it really is sad.

You know, there's speculation I know at the beginning of this.

They're like, it just sounds like she just killed her husband.

And it's like, well, I don't know if there's any evidence of that.

Assuming that everything was on the up and up, it's just, it is a really tragic story of someone who really was a victim of their own stupidity.

And it is really, really sad.

But, you know, the way that it's, you know, it's just so bizarre coming from a person who is making a big political point out of it.

I can't imagine if I just lost my husband, that I'd be sitting here going, like, the American people should not be complaining, listening to this president.

This president is not trustworthy, and I believe you should donate to it.

It just doesn't seem, it seems like a very, it's a very shady story, the whole thing.

Is it not?

It is.

I think it is.

Yeah.

Have you been watching The Tiger King?

I haven't.

Does that do that?

Yeah, that sounds like something somebody would say that's that's been watching the Tiger King.

Because

that thing is

insane.

And you find out that, I mean, early on, that

the Tiger King is in jail.

I think we don't really know.

At the beginning, you find out that he's in jail, and it's because he put a hit out on this woman who is trying to shut his tiger camp down.

She's in Florida and she rescues tigers and she's putting them in really crappy cages.

I mean, his place is nice compared to hers and she's like, oh, you can't keep animals in cages.

And she's got them all in these really crappy cages.

Anyway, apparently he was trying to kill her.

But then you find out that her really rich, you know, millionaire husband just disappeared

and and they've never been able to find the body and they say that maybe she killed her husband and fed him to tigers.

It's the craziest what.

You watch this and you're just like, I don't,

I've never seen a bigger freak show than

this show.

It is, it is crazy.

Every 10 minutes, you think, okay, it can't get worse than this.

10 minutes later, it's much worse than this.

It is, it's, it's Florida times a thousand.

And anybody who's ever lived in Florida understands what I'm saying.

Every crazy story ever that you've ever heard somehow or another is connected to Florida.

So, I mean, and there's actual murders going on, and we're making a reality series out of it.

That's the only way we get ready to get justice done anymore in this country.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Look at the, here's, here's the featured story, the top of the page of the Blaze.

Popularity of Tiger King documentary prompts sheriff to ask for leads in cold case of woman's missing former husband.

I sort of the only way we do anything anymore.

The legal system just sits around and waits for documentaries now.

That's what we do.

We're like, oh, wait, what?

R.

Kelly did what?

Oh, wow.

Look at that documentary.

Let's get him in prison.

Oh, Bill Cosby did what?

Oh, okay.

Now it's time to go after him.

Oh,

making a murderer is the same thing.

Like, you know, this guy had been in jail all this time, and it was this cold, you know, the case had already been decided, and then they had to go back through it and look at it again because the documentary came out.

That's how we do it now.

The true crime

genre just drives our legal system.

You guys have to just watch at least one episode.

Watch just one episode because you have to meet the Carol woman.

And the people who are, the people who are making this are genius.

Because they'll leave in footage of

them, you know, at times.

like they're driving up to meet her for the first time.

And you just hear one of the cameramen or one of the producers go,

well, she's dressed appropriately.

And when you see the camera come on her, it's just like, oh my God.

You would not believe that this is as crazy as,

what's the group that did Spinal Tap and Best in Show?

Oh, like a Christopher Guest movie or something?

Yeah.

Okay.

It's as crazy as those people.

That's all maked up.

That's all for comedy.

It has all of those characters in it.

It's insane.

It's insane.

And we were talking about this too, that it's got to be one of the larger sort of shared cultural events in a long time because, you know, when these things happen.

You captive audience.

Yeah.

Like you have a totally captive audience.

Like when you hit one of these things, when you're the big documentary that everyone's talking about or the big show that everyone's talking about on Netflix, it's already a big thing, right?

But now, everybody

is watching television.

Like, I mean, everyone is streaming Netflix at the same time.

You probably, it probably will go back to some of those

TV numbers.

Yep, yeah.

Can you imagine if this was happening?

I contend this quarantine could not have happened 15 years ago if we all had dial-up before Netflix,

no, yeah, before Netflix and dial-up girls, because

unless Blockbuster was deemed essential,

I mean,

you couldn't have done it.

It would drive you insane.

Well, yeah, that's why we're willing to give up our constitutional rights because we've got Netflix now.

I'm just watching Netflix.

I'm fine.

I'll stay home and teach Netflix.

Right.

Can you imagine how big the actual viewership numbers would be if we had the four networks, the three networks or four networks,

and just regular television, how huge the numbers would be.

Now these Netflix numbers have got to be outrageously huge and

they don't share them so we may never know.

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So yesterday, the president was in the Rose Garden, and he had a bunch of CEOs there.

Procter ⁇ Gamble,

CEO, was there, a lot of people.

And he talked about how they were all pitching in to help.

And the media and Twitter went crazy.

I love this one.

Trump showcasing executives from all these private companies instead of talking about government efforts is a reflection of how little his administration is doing to respond to the coronavirus.

But nothing, nothing

lit the media up and lit social media up like Mike Lindell.

Mike Lindell got up.

He's the guy from My Pillow.

And he's retooling his factories to be able to make masks for the hospitals.

That's why he was there.

And when he got up to the microphone, he said, thanks, Mr.

President.

If you don't mind, I'd like to just make a quick statement.

He said, God gave us grace on November 8th, 2016, to change the course we were on.

God's been taken out of our school and out of our laws, out of our lives.

A nation has turned its back on God.

I encourage you to use this time at home to get back to the word, to read our Bibles, bring your families back to God.

I thought it was incredibly brave and not unusual.

Unfortunately, yes, it is in the world of the media.

This is from Ali Velshi from MSNBC.

Trump just called the My Pillow Guy up to the podium in the Rose Garden.

You can't make this stuff up.

James O'Grady, are you effing kidding me?

He had the My Pillow Guy on to sell his garbage product during a pandemic briefing.

He wasn't selling anything.

No one fights a pandemic better than, or more scientifically, than the insane My Pillow guy talking about the Bible.

It went on and on and on.

Mike Lindell is here to

respond and tell us how he's feeling today.

Mike, I thought you were incredibly brave to say what you said because you knew you were going to take a beating for it.

I thought it was eloquent and I thought it was exactly the right thing to do.

Congratulations for doing that, Mike.

Well, thanks.

And then I had just wrote down some notes here.

I actually turned to the president because I didn't know if I said, I'm going to say something a little off the cuff here.

And

I didn't, you know, I thought, I didn't think it'd be attacked like that.

I really didn't.

And, boy, I got, I had over, and then I had over 750 some text messages.

Of course, them were good, but I didn't even know I had that many people.

I had my phone number.

And that there was probably

I mean, people I haven't talked to in 10 years.

So I was answering them until 3 in the morning, but

I actually went to the bad media sites and seen what was trying to be put out there.

And Glenn, one thing I want to say is I thank everyone out there, even from both sides, because so many people that were on the side, even the media that's saying these horrible things,

there are people over there going, you know what, just like you just said, he wasn't selling anything.

And what's wrong with being home with your families?

And that's just his opinion.

And

a lot of it,

this country, like I told the president, I said, you know, Mr.

President, President,

we were in the Oval Office for about a half hour after that, him and I.

And I said, you know what?

I said, these press briefings are so good because people are seeing who you really are, who you, you know,

they're seeing your heart.

And

all this fake news and this crazy attacks out there by the left, I said, I said, I got a, I said, here's where it's going, though.

And I read him a text I got from a friend of mine who's very much a president hater.

And here's what it said.

And I read it to him.

It said, Mike, you know I'm not a big Donald Trump fan, but he said, you know what?

God bless him.

He's doing an incredible job.

He's doing a job of a champion here.

And I think he's growing on me.

And this is what's happening.

I think people are going to quit being brainwashed by this horrible,

crazy media.

And they know who they are.

And the public is going to see this amazing job that our president's doing.

But I, you know,

today I'll be getting

interview after interview today.

And I'm taking all the bad ones.

I think I'm going on the view tomorrow.

I'm going Washington

this afternoon.

I love it.

I want to go right into the hurricane.

Finally, I get to speak out for Jesus like I want to.

That's great.

That's great.

So, Mike, tell me about your company is doing.

He had you on the stage along with other CEOs because you're doing something with your company.

Tell me what you're doing.

Well, about two weeks ago, I said, you know what?

We got to make mass.

I heard there was a need.

I reached out to the vice president.

He was head of this whole thing.

And I reached out to his office, and they directed me to Peter Navarro, who

texted me right back and then called me.

And he says, we have this thing set up.

It's a coalition.

I called them.

They were so helpful in finding out specs that I need of these cotton masks.

And then I had to outsource, figure out where I can get the elastic in our country.

And in the meantime, I said, you guys, we're doing, we're going all in.

And we revamped one of my factories, 200,000 000 square feet and we put in safety precautions for all my um employees where they're checked at the door and they you know and sanitizer they can take breaks when they want and we went all in by within three days we were up to 10 000 mass training them now i'm running three shifts and we want to get up to 50 000 by the end of the week but one of the things that happened glenn was wait wait wait 50 000 50 000 a day a day or at the end of the week a day no a day a day Holy cow.

Yeah,

we're very good at ramping up in MyPillow and used to big numbers.

And I have such an amazing team.

We had to move sewing machines apart.

I did have a very expensive die cutter that cuts the fabric.

And one of the specs was they wanted 160 thread counter better.

Mine turns out it was 205 double, so it's 410.

So we overshot the mark.

And so there was a lot of things

that were set up almost perfect for such a time as this for my pillow to get involved.

But one of the things that's happened is I became like a bicycle hub, and I've got a whole team of people.

I have 20 people.

It's like a task force.

We're actually going to put a website up because we're getting, you know, from all over the country, you know, hey, how can I get involved as a business?

How can I help?

I have five other businesses I dealt with that switched over to getting sewing these masks.

And they know, you know, I want to say just the few that were there at the White House, there are so many companies out there that are stepping up, and it's just just amazing to see that.

You know,

I read one of the guys that said, you know, that he's the fact that the president is showcasing these private industries shows how little his administration is doing.

That is the idea of a free market.

This is exciting and why we always pull ahead in a crisis, because the free market is, we don't have to wait for the government to requisition things.

We just do them.

We find a better way to do them and we get it done.

Absolutely.

And I want to tell everyone out there, I went to the White House.

I'm, as you know, you know me.

I'm an optimist beyond belief.

I went to the White House and I'm at first we had a roundtable thing with a vice president, president, and these other companies and myself.

And they're talking about these statistics.

He goes, he says to me, he says, Mike, this one took, they said it would take a year.

They did it in two weeks.

I mean, he's able to take the private sector and the government and say, you know what, this one company called up and they, or one governor called him up and said, hey, hey, I can't, the government's blocking us

the federal.

And he called up the FDA and it got approved in two hours.

That would have took months.

I mean, this is what he's the best at.

Here's common sense, problem solution, and what it's going to manifest to.

And it's just, no, he's built for that.

I mean, I left there.

I'm more optimistic now than I was.

And for me to go up,

you know, to double my optimism, going, wow, he's going to get us through this.

So I can't tell everyone I'll see how amazing the things are doing.

He is a guy, and I've said this for a long time.

He loves a crisis.

He just loves it.

He lives for that moment of crisis.

He creates chaos, you know, through his Twitter feeds and everything because he loves it.

He feasts on it.

This is a real crisis.

And you can see how

he has stabilized all of the other behavior that usually causes the crisis because he is in a real crisis now.

And

he's operating, as I think he does when he's building giant

building projects.

He can just

take on a whole bunch of different tasks and remain steady.

How is he appear to you?

His spirits and how

is he tired?

Yeah, no, no, I don't think he tires.

I mean, I mean, he works more harder than anyone ever I've ever seen, you know, 20 out of it, 20 hours out of a 24-hour day.

He does have my pillow, so he gets quality sleep.

I'll put a plug in there.

But

it's like you just said it.

He lives for this.

He knows he's the best at it, and he is like a big guy running an orchestra, all these different silos at the same time, and cutting through the tape to get this done, to get this done.

And it's amazing, and his spirits are good.

You know, he's, I think he's,

one thing people don't realize about him is he's an amazing listener.

He takes it all in, and he won't stay right at the thing.

He just, it's like it, it's like a computer taking into his brain, and then

God's given him this gift.

He just weighs it, and here's the answer, and you're going to have a hard time changing my mind.

Once he gives that answer,

he knows it's the right thing.

And just because you've got other people putting their influence in, maybe having their own agenda, once he makes that decision, he's going to get from point A to point B, and there's nothing going to stop him.

It's just a matter of how he gets there.

Did you, with the other CEOs, did you guys talk about the economy and

how we're going to turn this thing back on?

Yeah, yeah.

You know, that's what they were, you know, one of the things is, one of the things, the frustrations I got, I brought up,

I said, you know, there's, you see all these places that are open, like your Walmarts and grocery stores.

And I said,

I was sickened when I walk into one and they don't have people at the door, security, saying, hey, put a mask on, use this sanitizer here, or even their own employees within the business.

I set it up in my pillow.

Why don't they have safety things that they're getting to be open just because they're essential?

These people are, I told the president, I said, down in Oklahoma, a friend of mine's got House of David.

You know, obviously it's not considered essential that you have a church open, but yet there's a hardware, I mean, a car part store where they're all congregated with no masks.

The clerk's not wearing a mask.

And what's wrong with that picture?

I mean, and we need safe practices for the businesses that are there so they can give us confidence.

You know,

when we go back to our other, the other businesses start open.

If these aren't doing, you know, showing safe practices, It's just, and we did talk about the economy.

That's what the president right now, he's hearing on one hand, millions of people would have died.

You're saving lives.

And he goes, he said, my first thing is to save lives.

But he said, but we've got to get people back to work.

So

we need to get solutions.

And that's what he's weighing.

And that's what we're waiting on now is for the president to, he just keeps taking in input.

When you're seeing these delays, okay, we'll wait and we'll, you know, we'll push the date off here.

Well, more stuff keeps coming in, more fixes, and then when it's going to be, I believe a day is coming, President's going to go, you know what?

We're going to start here.

These things we're going to open up here.

You're not going to say nationwide, open it up all at once.

It'll be possible to pull.

And then, you know.

Mike,

I've got to run.

I'm up against the network break.

Thank you so much for what you did yesterday.

Thank you for the masks.

And we'll talk again soon.