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Welcome to the podcast.

Today we have kind of a different show.

We wanted to kind of hear from you and find out what's going on in the world because

there's a way of looking at things and we can go through all the news and get all the reporters telling us what they think is going on.

But we always find that it's valuable to check in with you and see what's going on in your world because we learn so much from doing that.

And we take a bunch of calls today from people who...

I've gone through real tough times with this, people who are questioning our future when it comes to our economy and the future of the country.

We also go on and take on a little bit of the ridiculous media narratives about

how

conservatives in particular are being portrayed as not caring about human life, which is

bizarre accusation when you

when you talk about

when you want to insert abortion into the issue.

But the idea being that we don't care about old people because of the stock market futures.

That's much more important.

We get into that.

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A couple more celebrities and dignitaries have tested positive for coronavirus.

We'll tell you about that.

And go through the spending bill, which is

there's a lot in there, highly questionable.

We'll get into that as well.

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All right, here we go with our coronavirus update.

The daily stats, as always, as of 5.30 a.m.

Central Time from Johns Hopkins University.

Total confirmed cases worldwide, now up about 40,000 to 434,000.

Total confirmed deaths worldwide, 19,000, up 3,000.

Total confirmed worldwide recoveries,

111.

That's up 8,000 from yesterday.

All 195 countries on earth have confirmed cases except for the penguins.

And I am willing to carry eggs on my feet if they will let me in.

4% of active cases are now considered serious, requiring hospitalization.

That is down from 5% yesterday.

But as I pointed out, 13% of U.S.

confirmed cases do currently require hospitalization.

However, that's because there are so many people, we believe, that are walking around with it

and

it's so mild they're not even noticing it.

The U.S.

now has 54,000 confirmed cases, 784 deaths, up from 46,000.

So a jump of 8,582 deaths yesterday, 784 today.

We have 379 officially recovered against the 784 official deaths.

LA County Sheriff is now closing all of the gun stores.

That's going to make it so much better.

I mean, nobody's freaking out about the taking away of their rights when you have counties just saying, no more guns for you.

No, that's no, that's what I would do to calm the masses.

America has lost 500,000 millionaires to COVID-19.

Bernie Sanders is a piggy

when he heard the news

that as of the close of 2019, there was an unprecedented 11 million American millionaires.

That is a reflection of the longest bull market in history.

Well,

we lost half a million of them.

You don't, you're not celebrating?

Oh, well, you should, because those are the people that are paying the most in taxes.

So others can have free stuff.

The tandem financial health crisis wrought by COVID-19

has

really

hit America's small businesses, but 50% of Americans now are living in shelter in place or home quarantine orders.

Now, there's a difference between sheltering in place and home quarantine.

I don't know if anybody cares or knows, but quarantine is you, don't leave.

A shelter in place or at home, that is, ah, you got to go to the store.

You got to do what you got to do.

You know what I'm saying?

Majority of the public is going to be ordered to stay in home in the coming days as the coronavirus pandemic sweeps the nation.

Total of 13 states, at least 16 municipalities, have enacted measures to keep residents inside their homes and prevent the spread of the virus, according to CNN.

I have to tell you, I don't know why we're closing down everything

everywhere.

I don't understand that.

There are towns all across America that are still working and can keep social distancing that don't have the virus yet.

They should remain online just with social distancing

so we can still go to work when we can.

Not every, again,

13 states and 16 municipalities have enacted measures.

That number amounts to 148 million people

or half of the population.

Uniformed military personnel yesterday set up a makeshift morgue outside of New York City in a hospital.

It is Hollywood disaster scenes that are starting to be seen in some of America's biggest cities.

Also,

UV rays proven now to destroy the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The infection rate of COVID-19 is 22 times higher in Iceland as compared to Australia.

The research comes as scientists in Hong Kong demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, is easily destroyed with UV light, just like all other coronaviruses or flus.

So it looks like there is indeed going to be

an end to this this summer as the season changes.

But it will also mean that it will come back if we haven't found some sort of a vaccine or some sort of a

some sort of an old medicine or drug that works.

Again, Prince Charles has tested positive.

I'm wondering if people

in Scotland and Ireland see that as good news or bad news.

The queen, I hope, is in isolation.

By the way, did you see Vladimir Putin?

And he came out yesterday in a space suit.

He had a bio suit on.

Did that look like the brave Putin?

I mean, that looked to me like a leader that was a coward.

Can you imagine if somebody would have put Donald Trump in that suit and he would have gone into a hospital where they had some patients?

In America, you would say, don't ever do that.

Don't ever put him in that situation.

Not because he would be in danger, but because he would look like a goofball.

Yeah, it's the old

Dukakis on a tank type of look.

It's not exactly ideal, though there's a spot between what Putin did and what the president of Mexico has been doing lately, which is still

walking around and hugging and kissing people and eating the cheeks of children for whatever reason.

He is how that

whole story is the most undercovered story to me in this entire crisis, which is we can do whatever we want here.

We can social distance all we want.

That's all wonderful.

However, the fact that we have a country just to our south across a border that we don't want to enforce that is not doing anything, that is still having soccer matches very, very recently, still having festivals, still having their president walk around and do rallies among tons of people.

There's almost no testing going on in that country.

They are almost certainly ravaged by

coronavirus.

And the second we were to cure it here, it would be coming over the border like crazy from there.

It would make no difference, and we'd have to do it all over again.

Yeah.

And if we ever got serious, if they were out of control and we got serious about our border, Donald Trump would, of course, be called racist again.

How can you not help?

They didn't do anything in their own country.

They didn't do anything.

You're yelling at Donald Trump for not doing enough.

They're not doing anything.

And let them come in.

Let's go to Felicia in Colorado because I want to finish up today's show.

We're going to get into that $6 trillion bill.

Yeah, it's not two.

It's $6 trillion.

We're going to get into that here in a little while.

But I also wanted to spend some time with you on the phone to just a gut check on how you're feeling and what's happening in your life.

Felicia called us from Colorado.

Hello, Felicia.

Hi, Glenn.

It's such an honor to be on.

I've been listening to you for years.

You're my, you

have changed my life.

Wow, thank you.

Let me tell you the reason I called in a second, but what I want to let you know is I'm immune compromised, 53 years old, was in the hospital all December, rehab, all November.

I have to learn how to walk again, diabetes, high blood pressure, et cetera.

But I have are you in a bubble?

You should be.

Are you in a bubble?

Because you should be.

My apartment is surrounded with saran wrap.

My kids, they don't let me go anywhere, which is great.

And my husband, he's essential personnel because he works, works, he built hazmat tents for first responders.

But the reason I called is

this local guy, I'm doing this for a friend, this local guy owns three apartment properties and she came home the other day and he posted on all their doors that

we expect all of our tenants to pay all the rents and monies due to us, just like always.

If you don't pay it on time, you're going to get an eviction notice and we will evict you.

And

he said, we're paying all of our bills and you'll be held responsible for the payment of all your bills nothing is free this guy is a jerk and he's holy

cow yeah and a lot of them have lost their job because you know they're and he sounds like a slumlord because they're lower rent apartments you know and yeah he posted these on all his three properties now

The governor, Governor Polis, not a fan of him, but Governor Polis and

the Jefferson County, where I live, the biggest county in the state, they have not decreed anything, but they have said they recommend that landlords, you know, make payment arrangements,

you know, don't charge late fees, those kinds of things.

But they can't,

these, these landlords like this are protected because it's not a decree.

So I really wish Dr.

Carson would decree that,

you know, be

show some humanity be

well I tell you Felicia this is

I agree with you and this is where we this is where the rubber meets the road and this is what I was talking to to Thomas Massey about people have to worry about their rent they have to worry about their rent at home if you're a business person you have to worry about the rent or the mortgage payment for your offices

and that's where people need money right now we don't need need money to go shopping other than food if you don't if you lost lost your job, you can't pay your rent.

And these banks are getting $4 trillion and they will be made whole.

And there's, I don't understand why the government just didn't say, you know, no evictions, no mortgages, and not have, you know, the person who owns, this guy sounds like a jerk, but the person who owns apartment buildings, they do still have to pay that mortgage.

And if nobody pays them, they can't pay the mortgage and then they lose the apartment building.

So everybody's in it, like you said, together.

So it makes sense that we all kind of do what we have to do and work together.

But that requires the bank, you know, the person who holds the note to also say,

okay, you know what?

I know it's tough times and you can only make a third of your mortgage payment.

That's fine.

Don't worry.

That's good.

But is that happening?

And that's what really needs to happen.

Everybody needs to do what they can, but it has to happen all the way up to the top.

You don't want to, you don't, again, this guy sounds like a jerk, but you don't want to stone people because

they're higher up on the

ladder, as you would might see it, and they own this big property.

Well, they might be fighting for their life as well, and they're not getting any relief.

And that's the problem.

We have to understand that the entire food chain here has been disrupted.

Felicia, God bless you.

Please stay inside and tell your friend we will pray for them as we all should be praying for the people who are in these situations.

Many people have already lost their jobs.

As the president says, we've got to turn this engine back on pretty darn soon.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Welcome to the program.

Let's go to Thomas Massey in Washington.

You're not actually in Washington, are you, Thomas?

Actually, I am.

Congressman, are you there?

Oh.

Jeez.

Sorry for that.

Harry Glenn.

You there?

I'm sorry that you actually had to be in Washington.

Yeah.

I am here.

I'm in Washington.

So, Thomas, tell us what's actually in this bill.

It's a $6 trillion bailout if you add what the Fed is putting on top of it.

And that's without all the other stuff the Fed has already done.

So, $6 trillion.

I don't even begin to understand it.

Tell me what the geniuses have done.

Well, they're so smart, they're not even sharing the language with us yet.

So supposedly they came to an agreement last night, and it's a thousand pages, and you got the price tag right, as far as what I'm hearing, but there's no text.

Literally, all I have to go on is the dear colleague letter from Chuck Schumer to the other Democrats, where he's bragging on the victories that he got in the bill.

That's the most substantial representation of the bill that I have right now.

And I suspect they're going to try and pass it here in Congress on a unanimous consent without ever

really having Congressmen vote.

How does that happen?

How can we possibly spend $6 trillion

and not actually have a vote?

What does that even mean?

How does that work?

It means that Congress is just a bunch of eunuchs at that point, is what it means.

It means that the administration, people within the administration, and two or three other people, and a bunch of lobbyists got together and wrote a bill, and instead of even giving it the imprimatur of a congressional debate,

they're just going to try, I believe, I could be wrong, I believe they're just going to ask for unanimous consent to deem it a law.

Like, it wouldn't even be a vote.

Do you have to vote on that?

No,

they would just do it.

So, wait, how is that constitutional at all?

Does that mean that Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Mitch McConnell and the boys all got together and came up with something, and then they get the only vote?

That's basically what it means.

Now,

there are some of the.

Where in the Constitution is that?

You know, the Constitution says you have to have a quorum to do business.

And, you know,

which in the House of Representatives is 218.

And what they do is the Speaker assumes that there's a quorum unless somebody raises an objection and points out that there's only one person in the room.

But the Speaker has really bad eyesight and doesn't count very well.

So if there's one person in the room, the Speaker assumes there's a quorum and business goes on.

Are you going to at least stand up and say, there's no quorum?

I want to count.

There are a few of us here in Washington, D.C.

I don't want to say who the other colleagues are.

They wanted their coordinates known, but we're talking about

the travesty here

because this is probably, by the way, this is the third bill.

This is the third coronavirus bill that will have passed if it passes.

And they're already talking about bill number four and bill number five.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

It's

a $6 trillion.

It's over, Thomas.

I mean, we have to do something, but

not

give

everything away so there's nothing left.

I mean, you know, just what little I know, what little I know,

does the bill just say, you know what?

Hold on mortgages.

You don't have to pay for mortgages for three months until everybody gets back to work.

Or you can't foreclose on people.

I know the government is not foreclosing on people, but how about regular banks?

Because they're getting the back door $4 trillion.

How about that?

How about we're going to make sure that you get immediate unemployment?

That's fine.

No payroll tax.

We're not going to print money.

We're just not going to take money from you.

None of those are in there.

Well, those would be common sense things, but you can be sure that the banks are going to be made whole

and maybe even more than whole.

But here's the problem, Glenn.

Let's say this shutdown that the governors have perpetrated on our economy takes $4 trillion out or $6 trillion out, and we inject $6 trillion back in.

You can't eat the money, right?

Farmers still need to grow food.

Manufacturers still need to make insulin.

Like,

you know, automobile

truck manufacturers still have to make ambulances to get people to the hospitals, right?

Just because.

Thomas, yesterday.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Just because you put the same amount of money into the economy that you took out doesn't mean you've created any goods or grown any food.

That's the problem we have here, Glenn.

And today they're asking us to jump off a cliff, but they're not telling us how far it is to the bottom or what's at the bottom.

I got into my car yesterday, and I just needed to get out of the house for a while.

So my wife and I took a drive, and we drove through

a little town here called South Lake.

It's South Lake Town

Center.

Really nice, very, really just this quaint little thing in the town.

It was like a horror movie.

It was like everything that you've ever seen in,

what was it, the quiet movie or the, you know, the one where the monsters are coming out.

What's that movie, Stu?

Where the monsters hear noise?

Quiet Place.

Walking Dead.

Yeah, the Quiet Place.

Yeah, Walking dead, quiet place.

The Omega Man, it was, there was no place to spend money.

There was no place to spend money if you had money.

So how is this other than paying my mortgage and making sure that I have money to get food?

What else do you need money for right now?

What else?

Housing, you need food, Madison.

There's a whole number of things you need money for.

But I'm saying you can't.

That stuff, that's the stuff that should be covered right now.

Not just giving me a check.

Giving me a check,

you're not even means testing.

You're not even looking at what I'm going through now.

You're just giving people a check for $1,500.

Some people have their jobs.

Other people don't have their jobs.

But there's no testing on that.

This is ridiculous.

This bill is ridiculous.

I did see Chuck Schumer said in his letter that the money will keep coming until this crisis is over.

Like, so how do you even know it's $2 trillion once you've promised to pay people money for as long as this goes on?

And

what does the end look like?

Can somebody define the end?

I've been looking for tripwires.

When is this crisis over?

When we're all going back to work?

Or does the crisis continue because we have damage to our society and to the engine of capitalism?

And so this continues on for another year, another two.

I mean, this has opened the floodgates, the floodgates.

And it's conditioning an entire generation to a paternalistic government.

Glenn, if I told you four weeks ago, that the governors would come out and tell people they can't go to church, you'd think I was crazy.

But you'd know I was really insane if I said, and people are going to stay home and the churches are going to close and they're going to dutifully do what the government says.

You know, I disagree with you.

No, I don't think so.

I think people, I think Americans want to do what's right for America.

And so when the president came out and said, maybe we should, maybe we should all stay at home,

everybody wants to do the right thing.

But the right thing also includes saving the nation.

it also includes not just saving people we are more we're an idea we're a nation we're an economy the idea is being killed the economy is being killed our our opportunity to revive the idea and the nation and the economy is being killed.

There comes a point where you have to look at it like the president has been saying and saying, you know, guys,

you can't just tell everyone to stay home for the next two months it's just not going to happen there's nothing left at the end

there will be nothing left and to tell you know people are going above and beyond what is necessary to do the right thing there's a hotline now in kentucky where you can turn in your neighbor you can if you see somebody do something that the governor said not to do there's a hotline that the governor set up

and i called it just to just to see You know, I thought, well, maybe they'll probably staff it with offshore

call center.

But as it turns out, the governor's actually just taken people that used to work in other departments and conscripted them to take these calls where people are snitching on their neighbors.

And it's busy.

Like you can't even get through.

There's so many people snitching on their neighbors.

That's so dangerous.

That's so dangerous.

That is the one thing we've never had that Europe always did is they had snitches and you never knew who was snitching on you.

We've always trusted our neighbor.

Thomas,

I actually don't have a problem with the governors doing

the heavy lifting and all of that stuff.

I have a much bigger problem with the government, the federal government, doing it, because there's no last resort.

They are the final policemen.

They're the final stop.

And what the governors are doing by telling President Trump that he has to okay

the National Guard is insidious.

They're doing it, I think, because they don't want to spend the money.

And if he calls it, then the feds pay for it.

If the state calls it, then they're off the hook.

So the governors are wanting the president to call, but you cannot allow the federal government to have control nationwide of the National Guard.

If

a governor wants to do it, that's fine.

People can get away from that governor to 49 other states.

But if the president does it and they don't release the power, there's no place to go.

That's a great point.

You know, one of the points I've made about the governors doing these things is some of my colleagues here say, look, this is a government taking.

The government is taking something from people, their livelihoods.

So we must pay the people back for

what was taken from them.

But I'm pointing out that it's the governors who are taking, and it's the federal government who is giving back.

So we are now, with this bill, we will be incentivizing governors to destroy their own economy and to put people out of work.

And if you have one governor who stood up to all of it, now the federal government is coming in and saying, well, you might as well go in with the rest of the lot because now we are going to finance all this

malfeasance in the economy.

Right.

And there are states that are looking at these other states like they're crazy.

I mean, it's, you know, the cities here in Dallas have been and been blasting our governor because he hasn't put the entire state on lockdown.

The entire state doesn't need to be on lockdown.

Maybe Dallas does.

Maybe Houston does.

And those mayors can do that as they see fit.

But it needs to be held at the lowest possible level

and does not need to be the entire state.

What's happening in Seattle doesn't mean it's happening in Spokane, Washington.

That's correct.

The only way we're going to know that, by the way, is testing.

There's something the government is saying which really annoys me, is they say we don't want everybody tested.

Everybody doesn't need to get tested.

Actually, that's how we get out of this, is when we know who has it and who doesn't.

Yes.

When we know that we should all be

we should all be tested and then we can go back to work.

Those who don't have it, tested clear, go back to work.

Thomas, thank you so much for all that you do.

The congressman from Kentucky, Thomas Massey, will be watching you and the rest of the congressmen and the senators today in the House and the Senate as

they maybe don't even vote on $6 trillion being spent.

Thanks, Thomas.

The best of the Glen Bank program.

Welcome to the program.

We have Daniel Horowitz on with us.

He is

the Blaze podcast host and also with the Conservative Review.

He's the senior editor of Conservative Review.

And

he has taken a look into the coronavirus rescue bill, the one that is now

$6 trillion.

$6 trillion.

Daniel,

I've never seen anything like $6 trillion, and it looks like they're going to just pass this without an actual roll call vote.

They're just going to pass it.

Well, Glenn, I don't even know if I'm looking at the bill right now.

I got some sort of copy, which is 619 pages, but all I know is they're going to vote on it within an hour.

So there you go.

I cannot give you all the details.

Now, to be fair, I think it's $2 trillion, not $6 trillion.

But

it's $2 trillion with the $4 trillion from the Fed.

Yes.

And Glenn, this is just the beginning.

Here's the most important thing before we get into provisions.

Republicans are brilliant.

They managed to bankrupt us like Venezuela while still not even covering certain people.

And then all this is going to go into a black hole within a week or two if, as the Democrat governor seemed to want to do, they keep the shutdown going on this severely, this indefinitely.

There's no amount of trillions of dollars you could print that is going to ameliorate that pig.

So it's both too large and too little at the same time, and it's going to expose them to a bunch of political peril.

And what the Democrats have showed is that you can never outbid them.

If you don't provide a bold contrast in addressing the crisis in a different way, again, there's certain things we have to do with the surge in funding for the hospitals.

They have $130 billion for that.

We agree to that.

Extending unemployment benefits because we shut people down.

In some states, that will be $1,000 to $1,400 a week now.

Very generous.

So done.

Do that.

And then let's get back to work over the next few weeks with the prudent balance geographically, demographically,

and take care of the actual problem.

But instead, what they do is they indiscriminately throw

$500 billion in the form of $1,200

rebates at people, $500 per kid, even to families that didn't lose a penny.

But then if you're earning more than $150,000 as a family, as a small business owner, but that's last year on last year's tax returns, but this year you're slaughtered, you get nothing.

So they're going to get hit politically for that.

This whole thing just, it makes no sense, Glenn, because either we

We We address this in a different way and we get back to solving the problem, or there is no money in the world that will solve this

so there is no money in the world that will solve this what what needed to happen

daniel i think is

to is solve the immediate needs of those who lost their job

or those who are about to lose their house because they lost their job or those who are about to lose their business.

I mean, anything that helps business people out,

you know, especially the small business person, just by saying, look, you don't have to worry about your rent.

How much is your rent?

Send us the bill.

Send us what's going on.

You know, some way of just, even if you have a mortgage, talking to the banks and saying, look, you know, you guys are going to get it for

trillion dollars through the back door.

And that's just what we're announcing this week, let alone what we did last week, and let alone what you know is coming next week.

So no mortgage foreclosures, mortgage break for three months for everybody.

That would take care of the apartment building owner that has to make the nut and pay for that mortgage.

They could then pass that on.

I mean, that's the kind of things that we need, and none of that's in there.

None of that's in there.

That's exactly the point.

Once you are giving $1,000 to $1,200 a week for unemployment benefits indefinitely, and

again, in last bill, they took care of the paid leave for 12 weeks, which now they will advance the cash to the small businesses to cover that upfront.

So you have the immediate problem, the band-aid.

Why they need to spend an extra $1.5 trillion on the $500 billion for the bailouts for the industries,

another $367 billion in small business loans, but there's nothing to loan for because they're shut down.

And then $150 billion thrown at state government,

and then they have, you know, $30 billion for education, another $20 billion for mass transit, which I thought that's the ultimate people spreader.

We want to keep that shut down.

It doesn't make any sense, but then at the same time, they're adamantly saying, how dare you, Mr.

Trump, hope to get back to work in some modicum of normalcy by April 12th, by Easter.

How dare you do that?

This needs to go on indefinitely.

And it's almost like they're happy happy about it so in that case again this money will be gobbled up in no time and will be on to the next ten trillion and here's the final question Glenn

if there is no downside to doing this to you know no pain to spending so much immediately more than we need to just now which is what any normal person would do why not blow this wide open and give every family a hundred thousand dollar check no really where is the limit why I mean

if there's no limit, here's my question.

Why, you know, there's a lot of anxiety.

Everyone's worried about the balance of getting back to work and the coronavirus.

You know what?

Just stay home.

Here's $100,000.

Nothing to worry.

I want to know what is wrong with that.

Where is that line?

The reality is, Mitch McConnell said that this is a wartime World War II-like investment.

Where he's wrong is there's nothing to invest in.

You can't invest in a deadline.

Exactly right.

It's going going to go in a black exactly right.

Yeah.

What you need is deregulation.

In World War II, we had planes and tanks and factories at the end of it.

At the end of this, what did we invest in?

What do we have?

What do we have?

We're not walking away with anything that can be used.

Pardon me?

Yeah, you're investing in people staying home.

Yes, right.

Right.

And not investing in their home.

If they have a home and they're being foreclosed on, you're not giving them money or any kind of relief.

They're still going to lose their home.

That's what people are worried about right now.

They're worried about their home.

They're worried about having enough food for their family and a shelter while they're at home.

The next thing is, are we destroying the entire country

for a virus?

I mean, is there going to be anything left?

That's, I think, what they're worried about beyond the coronavirus itself.

They worry about those three things.

Do I have a home?

Do I have food?

And is there going to be any job to go back to in the end?

This bill doesn't address any of those.

And to speak to your home issue, there's another point I think your listeners need to get involved in at a grassroots level with state property or local property taxes.

And it's time to get state legislatures involved in this.

One of the problems I see happening in the next few weeks is this.

We know the Imperial College study was bogus.

Two million deaths, this and that.

I'm not saying there's not a serious element, and I do think it is more lethal than the regular flu.

But again,

is there value add to going from social distancing to complete lockdown?

Where's the evidence of that?

Where's the evidence that this stuff wasn't baked into the cake from January and February, which it absolutely was, because we had flights from Wuhan when I was calling for a shutoff in in in January.

So unfortunately, all these people that are like, oh, we have to save lives, well, yeah, thanks to you, Pelosi had a ben on Trump's ben as late as January 29th.

So that's baked into the case.

But my concern, Glenn, is that we're headed for the following scenario, where Trump's going to try over the next few weeks to see how to achieve the proper balance, and these Democrat governors are suddenly more powerful than God.

You know, I wish states would have been this powerful over the last half century, and they're going to, just to make him look bad,

push more severe shutdowns.

Trump needs to tell them, we are not going to bail out the states.

If you are going to go more severe than needed in the coming weeks, then you need to pay for that.

And one of the ways of doing that is they have to start relinquishing property taxes, like you said, so homeowners could afford it.

I will tell you, Daniel, that I think this is where the president absolutely needs to go.

He needs to next week say, you know, here's the plan.

We're going to continue to look look at how we're doing.

But in certain states, they are either past it or it's not the problem.

You have to keep your social distancing.

But I'm giving this power to the states.

And every state should open up when they can.

We are going to be there to help you open up.

And we're going to be there and we will encourage you to open up.

But it's the individual states.

I'm telling you now, open up the country.

I'm not saying open up New York.

That's for Cuomo to do.

I'm not saying open California.

That's for Gavin to do.

I'm saying, as far as the federal government is concerned, we are open for business in, what, 38 of the states.

What do you say, 30 of them?

How about 25?

And we will incentivize people to get back to work as soon as they possibly can.

What's wrong with the president doing that?

Well,

I'll tell you this.

I have a quote quote from the State Department telling me their hope is to get refugee resettlement back up and going by April 7th.

So if it's good enough for refugee resettlement,

you can't believe it.

I can't.

No, I promise you, they said.

Unbelievable.

Would you send that to me?

That's incredible.

It's from the State Department's Bureau of Population, Migration, and Refugees.

Yes.

Unbelievable.

Daniel, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

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