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Hell, hello, America.
What could we possibly talk about?
Hey, let's get our mind off of scary things and talk about movies.
Have you heard about the new Elvis movie that
Tom Hanks is in?
Yeah, I heard it's going to be great.
He's in Australia.
Whoops.
Probably shouldn't talk about that.
Let's talk about sports.
How about the NBA, huh?
We need a little bit of just an escape.
Maybe the word the NBA.
Or the NCAA.
College people.
We could go to college there.
No, let's just go back to politics.
Nope, let's not go there.
Hey, how about what are we going to do this weekend?
Is there a good show to see?
Is there a good place?
Holy cow.
We're here.
And as i pointed out on last night special this is the beginning i want to give you some facts that you really need to understand why did the president deliver this address last night and say it's time for us all to get serious and to help each other out why
i'll show you in one minute
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Okay,
I want to give you a couple of pieces here
about the coronavirus that I'm going to probably repeat several times on today's show.
It is really important
that you understand that this is the beginning of this.
Understand when I have been saying to you for a while, we are all going to get this.
That is not to let your guard down.
That is to tell you, we are all going to get this.
This is a long-term event.
This is, we hope, we hope.
And somebody used to always say, hope is a step away from despair.
Yeah, that one may be true in this particular case, because it looks like this is not a seasonal flu.
It looks like this is going to continue to go through the summer.
We don't know for sure yet, but indications are that it's not seasonal.
We also don't have any kind of natural immunity to this.
Even after you get it, it still looks like you can reinfect.
So we could just be living with this for a long period of time.
Things are going to change, and the time to change them is right now.
I've been telling you for the last few days, I've been looking for the
tripwires.
How does our society decide when we're going to close school?
Because we're all looking, in our life, we are all looking for someone else to trigger a tripwire.
Somebody else says, you know what, I'm not going into work today.
And it's somebody you trust.
And they're like, well, why not?
Because I think it's dangerous.
That might be a personal tripwire.
One of the tripwires that will cause real concern is when they cancel schools.
Now, schools are starting to cancel.
Here's why we're not canceling schools right now.
And it is critical that you understand, especially if you're looking to the school district as a tripwire.
The most effective thing, and I was hoping the president would say this last night, everyone is out, generally speaking, on spring break.
Right now, the schools should make the choice, the voluntary choice, you know what?
Add another week.
Just add another week.
Don't come back next week.
Have fun, kids, because in a week, we will know.
I said this when this first happened, we were in early January, and people started to call and write, and people on the staff said, are we going to cancel the cruise?
Now, this is when it was just in China.
And I said, just let it play out.
We're going to know the answer.
The answer will appear.
There's no reason to panic about it.
The decision will be made for us now two weeks ago was it two weeks ago or is it last week we we canceled the cruise two weeks ago i think i don't even know was it last week i think it was last week okay so just think of that last week it was just becoming clear but yet cruise lines cdc nobody said cancel cruises But it was so clear that we were in meetings going, okay,
we've got to cancel this.
We just have to cancel it.
It's irresponsible not to cancel it.
So we couldn't wait any longer for the tripwire.
We canceled on Friday or Thursday, and
on Sunday, the CDC said no cruises.
Right now,
everyone knows, including Captain Stubing, cruises shouldn't be done.
That's three days after, four days after the CDC said don't do it.
Not to mention, none of the countries we were going to visit were going to let us in anyway.
Right.
They're all, I mean, Israel is a 14-day war routine.
Italy's completely closed out.
But that's new, and that's new.
Those are both
since Friday.
Okay.
Incredible.
So things are moving rapidly because we're now hitting that exponential growth.
Now, let me give you some information here
that I got from professor of epidemiology and director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics at Harvard.
His name is Dr.
Lipswitch or Lipstitch.
He is,
this is something that was prepared
for me.
I asked a group to do some,
just help me with tripwires, help me understand
when to pull the trigger on certain things and what to prepare for.
So this team of mine went to
the professor of epidemiology.
I'm going to ask this group if they will allow me to release this.
This was prepared
for me, and I'm fine with it, but I don't know if they want their name out there or whatever.
So I'm asking them if they will let me
just release this entire report of about 20 pages.
But it's really important.
So
in this report,
he said there is a chance, chance, between 40 and 70 percent of the world's adult population could infect end up infected with coronavirus
Now a week later he said 20 to 60 percent of adults are going to become infected in either event Those are huge numbers He went on to say at the moment we're all in denial because it doesn't feel real because nothing is happening in our own communities right now.
Here's what you must do cancel Cancel public gatherings.
Potentially close schools, especially if there begin to be clusters.
But I want to explain that here in just a few minutes.
The clusters are,
they're here already.
We're already, it's everything that you're worried about is already here.
Okay?
You just don't know it yet.
This is following exactly the way it happened in China.
But let me give you some assumptions here.
Assume there are 2,000 current cases in the U.S.
as of March 6.
That is eight times the number that has been confirmed through lab tests because of the shortage of test kits and the absence of symptoms in milder cases.
All right.
Now, these assumptions would mean if we have 2,000 cases currently that are happening in the United States, and I think it's a very safe bet to say that that is happening, that we just don't know about,
that means
that
the cases will double every six days.
Now that's going to go to every two days soon, but let me just give you every six days.
If we have 2,000 current cases,
that means that every six days it's going to double.
And if you use that pretty
safe assumption, That means that there will be 1 million cases in the U.S.
by the end of April, 2 million cases in the U.S.
by the first week of May, 4 million by mid-May,
and so on, and so on, and so on.
Now, here's what I've been trying to express to you, and
maybe
this will clear things up.
When the president said last night, we have to work together.
We have to work together.
We have to put things aside and we have to work together.
We have to help each other.
We have to do the right thing.
The U.S.
has 2.8 hospital beds for every 1,000 people.
We are in really good shape with hospital beds compared to everybody else.
We have the best
health care system in the world.
We have
our intensive care units.
We have more intensive care beds than anybody else for the population size.
But we have 330 million people.
That means we have a total of 1 million hospital beds.
At any given time, 65% of those beds are already occupied.
I know this because I thought my father-in-law was,
his days were numbered and he was at Yale, New Haven, a very good hospital, but a Yale, New Haven, one that is overwhelmed.
He didn't have a bed to go to.
He was in the emergency room, and he was in the emergency room for over a day before they got him a bed.
They had, and this is before any of the coronavirus.
This is just a day-to-day.
They were waiting for people to check out so he could get a bed in the hospital.
The emergency room had people, again, before the coronavirus.
You had, like, your number was 11H.
That means that you were the 11th person in the hallway.
These were really sick people then.
So 65% across the country of those beds are already occupied.
That leaves only 330,000 beds available nationwide.
Now, that's not necessarily intensive care.
That's just a bed.
Using the numbers established so far in Italy, about
10% of the cases are serious enough to require hospitalization.
So if we apply the assumptions by about May 8th, all open hospital beds in the U.S.
will be filled.
This again says nothing about if that's an appropriate hospital bed because it can quarantine you or it is an intensive care that says nothing about respiration units.
I mean, there's not enough units in Italy to intubate everybody that needs to be
intubated.
Or
what was it the word that
Barack Obama used when he was like, you know, a breathalyzer.
There's not enough breathalyzers there.
Inulator?
Yeah.
Anyway.
So now the
number of severe cases could change either direction, but we're not going to have enough beds.
The federal government also has a national stockpile of 12 million N95 masks and 30 million surgical masks, which are better than nothing, but that doesn't stop our medical workers from breathing things in.
We have a stockpile of 12 million masks.
Now let's do the math on this.
If COVID-19 cases appear in many more states and counties, all healthcare workers are going to need to wear masks.
If all health care workers that are currently on the job are issued one mask per day,
we will be out of masks in two days.
By the way, one mask a day per healthcare worker?
Not idea.
But that's what had to be done in China.
Now, we can make more, but as
was discussed in Congress just yesterday, we've got all kinds of regulations that the masks that we make here
can't be used here.
We can sell them overseas, but we can't use them here.
All of that nonsense has got to stop right now.
So now what do we
What do we do first?
Well, let me tell you what the difference is between China and Italy.
Why things went,
if you can say this, as well in China and are going so horribly in Italy,
why they're going so horribly in France, why they're going so horribly in Germany, and why the President yesterday did that racist thing and said that we're going to stop all planes.
That is a huge,
huge move.
Why did he say it?
What's the difference between what China did and what Europe is doing?
We'll go there next.
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I said to my wife,
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They're on a trek this weekend.
And
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And I said, well, the coronavirus.
So,
hey, let's go to a show.
No, can't do that.
Is there a concert?
No, can't do that.
Hey, let's go to a movie.
No, can't do that.
Want to go out to eat?
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Okay, we have a lot of things going on today that we want to get to.
I'm going to give you some more information here on coronavirus.
We'll have our coronavirus update in hour number three, Jeff Brown, who was with me last night on the special.
He is a high-tech
guy.
He was in the high-tech world for a long, long time.
Now all he does is just go around and meet with CEOs and tech companies to see emerging technologies.
He says there's some really good news that he's seeing on the coronavirus front, far as vaccines, et cetera, et cetera.
But we are 18 months.
If we come up with
a vaccine today,
Today,
some company comes out.
It's fantastic.
It's 18 months before you'll be able to get it at CVS.
Okay.
So we are in for a long haul on this, but there's some really good things.
And he's going to talk a little bit about the economy, if we have time, a little bit about the economy,
what tech is going to do, and how we can still connect with one another
and change the way we're working.
I will tell you, there's never a good time for a pandemic, but this is one of the better times in the world's history history of having a pandemic because just 10 years ago, we would not have had the communications that we have now to stop the spread and also to keep economies going and be able to keep your business open.
You know, you would have said 10, 15 years ago, everybody's got to stay home.
You're not working.
You're not working.
So we have him coming up.
Also,
we have a very special guest
that is going to testify before the Senate, somebody that we've had on before on our television special.
I think it was the first television special we did on Ukraine and Biden.
What's really exciting about this is the Senate is not stopping looking into it.
And there is new information, and he's going to give you an exclusive in about a half an hour on
what they're looking into now
about what was going on in Ukraine.
This thing is going to open, wide open
this summer.
We'll give you that exclusive information coming up.
Also, Jerry Wayne is going to be on with us.
You don't know Jerry Wayne's name, but he was the guy who said to Joe Biden, Hey,
you're trying to take away our guns.
Well, you're full of that guy.
We have him coming up.
Do we have the audio?
We could just play this audio real quick.
You are actively trying to diminish your second amount of rain and take away our guns.
Now, go go to shush.
Shush.
I support the second amount.
Second amendment, just like right now, if you yell fire, that's not free speech.
From the very beginning, I have a shotgun, I have a 20 gauge, a 12 gauge, my son's hunt.
Guess what?
You're not allowed to own any weapon.
I'm not taking your gun away at all.
Unless you own an AR-14, which the good news is nobody has an AR-14, so he's technically not coming for it.
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Welcome to the Glenn Bed program.
It is, it's Thursday.
What a week.
What a week.
Every day seems like a year.
I was telling somebody yesterday, the other day, last night, I was having a meeting, and I said, you know, then this happened, and then the very next day, this happened.
And somebody was sitting in the meeting and went, Glenn, that first thing happened this morning.
The other thing happened this afternoon.
I'm like,
this is the same day these things are changing so fast and they're so massive that it's the same day this is going to accelerate welcome to our uh uh good friend pat gray
um
from pat gray unleashed who should not be here because he's going to get all of us sick but uh
i'm not sick oh sure that's what they all say that's what they all say i do feel weird though this whole thing is making me feel so weird does Do you feel, I just want things to go back to normal.
I mean, I think the last straw was Tom Hanks.
I'm like, no, no, come on now.
Now it's real.
Tom Hanks.
It's real all up in here.
Now that Tom Hanks has it.
I think Tom Hanks is this generation's Rock Hudson.
Yeah, or Jimmy Stewart.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
I don't mean it that way.
He is our Jimmy Stewart, but I mean Rock Hudson, 1985.
Nobody was talking about AIDS.
No.
And remember, he did something with Doris Day.
In a diseased way.
He's like Rock Hudson, you're saying.
Yeah.
Just hear me out for a second.
In 1985, no one was talking about AIDS.
The president hadn't even mentioned the word AIDS.
Nobody was talking about it.
It was this weird, scary disease that was really early on.
Nobody knew what it was, but it wasn't mainstream.
And it was something that, you know, oh, only homosexuals get.
And then it was, well, maybe just anyone can get it from coughing or kissing.
And it just turned in this nightmare.
1985, Rock Hudson does, I don't remember, a special or something with Doris Day, who he'd been in a million movies with.
And
he looks horrible.
And everybody's like, what happened to Rock Hudson?
I mean, if you don't know who Rock Hudson is, he was a guy.
He was.
I don't know, the Tom Cruise kind of guy.
He always looked good, never seemed to age, was really in shape, everything else, Was you know the guy in the 50s and 60s and 70s of just this heartthrob, but he was gay.
Nobody knew it.
He's on with Doris Day, then he goes to France for some radical experimental, you know, cancer treatments.
Well, Ronald Reagan was friends with Rock for years when he was an actor.
And so Ronald Reagan calls him in France and says, Rock,
are you okay?
I just saw this thing.
You don't look well.
That's when he said, Mr.
President, I'll tell you the truth, I have AIDS.
First time that Ronald Reagan knew, or really most people knew anybody who had AIDS.
And
he, a few days later, Rock Hudson comes out and he says, you know, I have AIDS.
I'm dying.
Ronald Reagan starts talking about AIDS, and it was the first time that people went, oh, wow,
we might know know people that are going to die from this.
That I think Tom Hanks may be the rock hutson of this generation because everybody knows and likes Tom Hanks.
And, you know, here's Tom Hanks filming with his wife the new Elvis movie in Australia.
And they announced last night he's got COVID-19.
Hopefully, dear God, please don't, let's not lose Tom Hanks.
But just him being sick, I think, that and the NBA last night, I think shook those two things were
big time.
They shook me.
I know that.
Also, Tom Hanks has type 2 diabetes.
Ooh, that's bad.
So that'll be interesting to see how he deals with this.
Yeah, that's not good at all.
You have diabetes, that puts you in a higher risk category for death.
You know, the other thing is, I don't know if anybody else felt this way.
Donald Trump, what he said in his speech last night about Europe was absolutely the right thing to do.
Absolutely.
Everybody's like Europe.
Yeah.
That is just so racist of him.
Stop it right now.
I thought you only liked Europeans.
I thought that was the knock on him.
Now he's racist.
Now he's racist.
You know, he hates those Germans because they look so different.
Anyway,
it was absolutely the right thing to do.
But I watched that last night, and it was one of those things where I thought, oh, my gosh, what?
I mean, did anybody else watch his speech and think, holy cow, I said that out loud when he said that.
Yeah, I did.
Holy cow.
I think that too hit a lot of people who are conservative because it did.
We go through this thing where the media is so awful to Trump and so unfair to him that it's easy to see every single story in this kind of constant plot against Donald Trump, which absolutely exists through all these storylines, including COVID-19.
Like they have been completely unfair to him.
Absolutely.
But like
a lot of people are saying, oh, this is a hoax.
They're going after him because they want the economy to crash.
This is not a big deal.
Donald Trump is not out there trying to sink Donald Trump's presidency.
No.
Donald Trump is out there on television telling you you can't go to Europe.
Well, I guess you can.
It was a little bit unclear as to what happened.
You have four days.
You have four days to return.
Yeah.
And then after that, you're going to have to go through screening.
You may be held elsewhere.
This is a really big deal.
None of our allies were alerted by this.
What's going on in Europe?
France is on fire right now.
And France is not taking this seriously at all.
We have friends.
Tanya told me, you know, we have friends who went to France.
And I said, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Those people?
They took their family to France?
She said, yeah.
And I said, all right.
Not going to church.
If they're going to church, not going to church.
Don't want the kids playing with their kids for 14 days.
They were in France and what they did was they're like, well, my gosh, we just decided $200
round trip to France.
Yeah, there's a reason.
It's true.
I got all this.
I was tempting.
It's tempting apart from that.
I got all this meat on sale.
You know how much, you know how expensive meat is.
I got all this meat on sale.
I got it for pennies for the pound.
And, you know, they're saying that it's spoiled meat.
It's been sitting out in the sun for the last 14 days.
But it came from a lab.
Yeah, but it's fantastic.
It was so cheap.
Yeah, it's cheap for a reason.
Yeah.
And people aren't taking it seriously.
And
that's what Donald Trump did last night was start to take it seriously for the American people and hopefully started to wake them up.
But right after he was done, boom, NBA.
Boom, Tom Hanks.
Yeah.
And it's interesting, too, because CNN can't say now that he's calling this a hoax and he's not taking it seriously.
So instead, it changes to now he's a xenophobe.
So now, because he's taking it seriously, now he's a xenophobe and he's not allowing anybody to do it.
It is exactly what cannot win.
No, it's exactly the right thing to do.
Now, it is.
You have to understand, as we told you yesterday, the reason why we're not canceling schools.
That is the easiest thing to do.
Doesn't that seem like the smart thing to do?
Because we all know schools are Petri dishes.
And they have done it through colleges.
Right.
It's happened at a lot of universities.
Some schools have been canceled.
So, why are they doing it at universities pretty much universally now?
Or it's trending that way, but you're not seeing schools all over the country cancel.
44% of parents cannot stay home with their kids.
So we're in this catch-22 where we know that parents are,
what are they going to do?
They can't, they may not be able to work from home.
They have to work.
They have their kids come home.
The entire
44% of households collapse under that.
Isn't it true also that very few children are getting this?
No, they are getting it.
It's like there is, what is it?
Hepatitis.
There's a hepatitis that spreads
really easily, not through the blood, and kids, babies, can get it.
And they have found that every adult around these babies will get hepatitis and they'll be knocked out.
They test the children, and the children all have it.
All the babies have it, but it doesn't affect their immune system.
It's not manifesting in any way where it's harmful for them.
Spanish flu is the opposite of this.
In 1918, Spanish flu kind of short-circuited.
If you had a strong immune system,
it put everything into overdrive.
And so all the strong immune systems were breaking down.
So all the children and under 18, they were the real targets.
This is the opposite.
So they're getting it.
It's just not
hurting us.
It's not hurting them.
Can I give you one other update here?
Yeah.
So for the second time since these rules have put in, and both of them in this week, we have hit the tripwire of the stock market down 1,700 points again today,
including another, the 7% thing on this SP 500.
So there's a 15-minute break, and we're in that window for the second time this week at this time.
Okay, so I'm going to tell you something that I just don't want to, I just don't want to be a freak out guy I don't want you to panic
but I wrote to my wife today and I said honey
I want our money out of the stock market we've been going back and forth on this it's so amazing I just I just texted my wife
did you the same exact yeah I said honey I want out of the stock market we're down 20%
we're down 20% that's now bear territory that's now means that that's a sign of recession and here's why.
This is the more facts that come in.
We are at least 18 months away from having a vaccine.
Available.
Available.
Now, there's going to be ways to fight it.
It's going to be a bell curve, although the other side of the bell seems to be a little lopsided.
We think at this point that there's not going to be a flu season on this.
It's just going to keep going.
We don't know, but we think.
We don't know, but we think you can get reinfected on it.
And when you do, that's even worse.
China is reopening all of their factories and everything else.
People are going back to work.
If that remains stable, then we can go,
okay.
Once it burns through your system,
it's not going to reignite and you have to repeat everything all over again.
And it would have peaked at, what, 80,000 people infected.
Yeah.
Which is not, not, if they're telling the truth, is not that big a deal.
So
here's the problem.
This is going to last us, you know, three to seven months minimum,
and we're going to go through other cycles.
If we can get through the summer, it's going to come back worse.
Look at the pandemics in the past.
It's a year into it, a year and a half into it.
To me, that says
we're going to have significant down for a significant period of time.
We're We're going to go through tough, tough times.
Economically?
I mean, obviously.
As well as the actual
situation.
I'm talking about economically alone.
The whole situation, this is going to change.
We will be different people, and I'm talking globally on the other side of this.
When this is all past,
we will be doing things
then
that will remain with us forever that we would have never done today.
It's It's going to change the way people work, the way we interact, the software, the systems.
Absolutely everything is going to change because of this.
And
I don't want you to freak out.
You should not freak out.
If you are young and you have your money in the stock market and you're 40, leave it in the stock market.
Leave it in the stock market because you can never predict the top.
You can never predict the bottom.
Leave it in.
It will eventually come back.
If you're somebody, I'm 56, I'd like to be able to say when I'm i'm 65 you know what i just want to go and do something else uh i could be wiped out you know if this continues to go on
you could be wiped out if you're 60 65
get your money out of the stock market take your loss now it's going to be a rough couple months i mean even when people try to blow it off and they're like oh it's you know it's just like the few flu first of all the flu is serious but remember let's just say it is like the flu the flu year one really sucked.
I don't know if anyone's noticed that.
Year two words.
Year two is worse.
Year 102 is what we're talking about today, right?
Like in year 102, well, we've been able to get a handle on it.
And I think the same thing is true with this.
But year, and we have a much better system now, too.
I don't think it's going to be 1918.
But we do.
But it is a scary thing.
It's worse in some ways because of the mobility of the people of the planet.
Right.
And
the fact that
we are seeing now that self-isolation is helpful, but unless the people take it seriously, we are going to go just the way of Germany, just the way of France, just the way of Italy, which is not good, in case you haven't been paying attention, because the people didn't self-isolate.
And I want to show you later on in the program exactly what that means.
You've got to take this seriously right now.
You should show the really quick video of Rudy Gobert from the Utah Jazz and how unseriously he was taking it.
Two days later, he's got the virus.
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All right, we've already hit that first freeze.
This is the second market freeze today or this week.
We stopped the markets at 7%.
We are now looking for the next freeze at 13%, and they closed the market at a 20% drop.
Some are saying we could see that full 20% drop today.
Today.
It's
hold on, gang.
Hold on.
Now, we have an update and some exclusive information coming your way from Washington
on Ukraine.
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Today is a very, very important day.
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today.
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as Rahm Emmanuel used to say, never let a good emergency go to waste.
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Something really important, two things really important happened yesterday that you need to know about, and we begin there in a quick, 15-minute, powerful interview and update.
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So we had
as a source during our Ukraine specials, we did an interview with Andrei Telashenko.
He was the former advisor to the prosecutor general of Ukraine.
He was also a former advisor to the first deputy prime minister of Ukraine.
He had a lot of inside information, and we did an interview with him, a long-form interview.
You can find it on the Glenn Beck podcast, wherever you find podcasts, or you can go to blazetv.com and find that podcast.
He is a Ukrainian national who is a patriot who found himself in the middle of,
you know,
really
one of the biggest, I think one of the biggest scandals in American history when it comes to a vice president and a president using another country to try to destroy a presidential candidate.
And we're not talking about Donald Trump doing this.
We're talking about Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
Well, since all of this has blown over,
there are people that are actually saying, you know what, we're not going to give up.
And Ron Johnson is one of them, the senator from Wisconsin.
He had everything lined up yesterday for a vote to call Andrei Telashenko as a witness.
In fact, he was on his way from New York.
He was on the train yesterday when we talked to him off air, and he said, I've got new documents.
I have all this stuff, and they're finally going to listen.
And then at the last minute, for some reason, and look it up, Stu, but I'll bet you, Romney.
It fell apart at the last minute.
So they didn't subpoena him.
We want to spend 15 minutes with him, 10 minutes with him.
Right now, we're going to hopefully do a long, you know, non-interrupted, long-form interview with him here in the next couple of days.
But this is something you need to pay attention to
because this, as we've said for the last year, must be exposed.
Welcome, Andrei
Telashenko.
How are you, sir?
Hi, Greg.
All good.
How are you?
Very good.
Thank you so much for being on with us.
I want to just,
I got to move rather rapidly today because of all the other news that is breaking.
But can you give us a hint of
why what you have to share is so important?
You were on your way yesterday to Washington, expected to testify right away.
There was just one vote that was expected to be very easily in the favor of testimony, and it fell apart at the last minute.
Do you know
why it fell apart?
I know it's to the Senate to decide what to do and what not to do.
I'm a foreign citizen, but what I know is that there was one senator, a Republican, who matted out out of the vote, and there was not enough votes to get their vote.
Was it Romney?
Do you know who it was?
I don't want to comment on that.
I think to you, a journalist can make that
attention of the people.
Okay.
And I think it will be not respectful from my side if I can.
Let me just say, I have no, absolutely no information on this, but my gut says Romney.
Cough if that's wrong and you, or if it's right, and you don't have the coronavirus.
Okay, yeah, that's what I thought.
All right.
So
you don't go to testify, but you have some really
important new information.
There is a company called Blue Star Strategies, and we didn't really know this.
You were working, you were hired by Blue Star Strategies, which was a company, an American company that had been hired to improve the image of Burisma and trying to get all of the investigations to be dropped.
Is that true?
Yes, that's correct.
They're a Washington lobby slump firm.
They are the owners of the firm, Karen from Litano and Sally Painter.
Karen is the former deputy chief of staff to Bill Clinton, and Sally Painter is a former advisor to Bill Clinton when he was president.
And they are connected with Hillary, and their employees right now work with Biden and Painting.
So they are the firm that is working with the Democrats, and they are still consulting today, Burisma, and are lobbying for them today, even though they're not registered.
So they approached you and they wanted to enlist your help.
And at the time, I assume you didn't think there was anything nefarious about it?
Yeah, they approached me when I was working in the embassy in Washington.
As a diplomat, they arranged for them meetings with the prosecutor general's office, with the top prosecutor of Ukraine, and they arranged meetings for with them for with that office a couple of times.
And then they
asked me if I want to work for them.
I said, sure, I'll come south using some lobby firm.
I did not think it was something different at that time.
Washington American Law Defense, I think it's good for my reputation.
And I did my job for a year with them.
And I did not want to talk about them before.
We only spoke last time with you about Shalupa and other events with the Ukrainian government.
But after they started to threaten me, and after they started to say that if Biden becomes president, he won't be welcome to the United States and other events, I started to think
I will go through this because this might not end below.
So that's what I'm trying to do today.
And I have emails, communications, with Blue Star strategies throughout the time I worked for them before and after that I wanted to share with the Senate, which is relevant for the investigation.
There's no Russia collusion here.
It's just documents.
Can you tell me what's can you give me a
preview of what's in those documents?
Talks about their clients in Ukraine, one of them who we all know, Burisma, and uh what they wanted to find out from the Ukraine government.
Uh talks about how arranged meetings for them in the prosecutor's office and how they tried to get the prosecutor to get the Burisma case dropped.
All all of that is on those emails.
Some of them already gave Senate
I need a subpoena for because I had a non-disclosure agreement and that's what we were waiting for yesterday, to get that subpoena, to file all the documents, to get my testimony, and get it over with.
Okay.
So was this coming from Blue Star or
was this coming from the Democrats, Obama administration, or Biden?
This was coming from Blue Star, and they were connected to Biden by favors and by things Biden personally asked Sally and Karen Calventano to do while they worked for Fort Barifa.
Okay, so
because I want to make sure that we are clear on something and we're going to spend some real time.
And I am so sorry today that what you have to say is so important, but unfortunately because the world's on fire, I've got to deal with it.
I thank you for telling the truth.
I thank you for telling the truth.
And people watch you in Ukraine also.
Yeah, no, I think what's happened to your country and our country is just unbelievable.
When you went in for that White House meeting that we've talked about before,
you all were brought over, all the prosecutors and everything were brought over, and it was to do, hey, let's learn how American justice can help clean up your country.
And it turned into
something where you said it was...
It was really just to get dirt on the campaign for the Donald Trump campaign and what was his name, Paul Manafort.
And you said that when you were pulled off to the side, this group was pulled off to the side, what you saw wasn't about anything other than Paul Manafort.
Can you verify that and tell me about how you believe now Chalupa, no, not Chalupa, but Caramella,
the whistleblower that shall not be named, and others in that meeting that organized it,
that they were doing this at the request of Biden?
Yes, because they were working directly for advice.
They were not doing this on their own.
They were in the National Security Council, advisors to the Vice President of the United States,
Joe Biden, Liz Ventos, Eric Chairmanlla, and a third person.
They talked about party regions, Man DeFord, and getting prepared for the Black Ledger, allegedly Black Ledger investigation.
So,
this was the Vice President using his office and the National Security Council to
actually
target a presidential candidate.
Yes.
And do you have documents or anything else that can prove that in your testimony that you wanted to share with the Senate?
I have the letter from the Department of Justice that invited those prosecutors over.
I have a schedule by the Department of Justice where it says where the meeting took place, 1600 10th Avenue.
Yeah.
And they have names: Eric Chermanella, Liz Dantos, from the National Security Council, who are there, put in the schedule, it's stated in the schedule who were the meeting with those prosecutors.
And then I have other witness testimonies from the prosecutor who was there, Mazar Khalzinski, confirming that two weeks later, when he came back to Ukraine, the U.S.
Embassy told him again to look into Paul Manafort and the alleged black legend.
Do you have any idea?
Have you talked to Ron Johnson about this?
Is there any movement to get this back onto the docket so you can actually share your testimony?
From what I understand, I did not talk to Mr.
Johnson yet, but I was in contact with the staff, and they did ask for more documents to come in.
I did share with them some of the documents which I talked to you about right now.
And
from what I understand, from what I hear in Washington, it's going to continue.
Okay.
But
we all have to be smart to continue it in the legal right manner.
Correct.
It won't be all so politicized by the Democrats.
Okay.
So,
Andre, I really, really appreciate you talking to us.
If there's any way that we can help you,
please let us know.
If there's, you know, we'll reach out to Senator Johnson's office today as well.
We've got to try to get this blockage.
You know,
maybe we should try some colon blow on Romney.
But if we can get that blockage.
Johnson needs your support.
Yes.
Johnson needs your support and people's support because he's fighting for this, for the truth.
Right.
Okay, so I would love to spend more time with you.
Thank you for spending a few minutes with us today.
Andre Teleshenko,
a Ukrainian, at one point high-ranking official in their justice system,
working for the prosecutors that Biden smeared.
And this is something we must get to the bottom of.
Romney.
Thank you, Mitt.
We'll get more.
See if you can schedule him on Jason for maybe,
I don't know, as soon as we can, and in a format where I don't have to worry about
time and other things.
Thank you so much.
All right.
We're going to go back to coronavirus here in just a minute.
Also, we're going to talk to Jerry Wayne.
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Wanted to talk to him and
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I want you to understand that we are what we're dealing with with coronavirus.
The president, I think, was out of sorts last night.
Apparently, he had a big ink stain on his shirt from a pen right before he goes on.
C-SPAN had the mics open.
It was kind of a Ronald Reagan.
We launch in a few minutes, and he said the F-word, can somebody help me?
I've got a big ink stain now in my front of my shirt.
And so.
The F-word was front?
I thought it was a totally different F-word.
And so he was out of sorts.
I've never seen him struggle like that before on something this important.
It's also not his.
It almost 14 is not really his 14.
It was important.
It was.
And
look, you know, actions are the most important thing here, of course.
Yes.
So, and I know that, you know, obviously this is sort of a, it does feel like a Mike Pence type of moment where he's he's like really well equipped for this type of thing, which is why it was smart to put him in charge of it.
But he's, but you know what?
The president is equipped to to make the final decisions.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
He's just not right now, you know,
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he's in a really tough situation, and he has to bowl a 300.
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So here's the president last night addressing the nation saying, look, we're going to make this.
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But what he was, the underlying tone on this was, you must act right now.
That's why he said, you know what?
No travel from Europe.
If you're a European and you want to come over and visit, visit us some other time for 30 days, no travel.
One of the reasons why he did this is because in France, they didn't cancel the Smurf
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Yeah.
There was lots of people dressed up as Smurfs.
It was like tens of thousands.
Yeah.
And they all gathered together and they're all dressed as Smurfs.
And the government said, you know what?
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Yeah, we do.
Go watch the the smurfs on cartoons if that's what you, what makes you laugh.
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This is the first pandemic that can be controlled.
This, according to the WHO, it is officially now a global pandemic.
They made that announcement yesterday.
We found out from the president that
no travel from Europeans to the United States for 30 days.
He's talking about massive packages to the American people, including a tax holiday
or at least deferred
small business loans of up to $50 billion
in money accessible.
The immediate reaction from the Democrats was, this is ridiculous.
We need more food stamps.
I mean, it's crazy what's going on.
We really have to pay attention to what Congress is doing because, believe me, they will not waste
this opportunity.
They will not waste this election
or this coronavirus emergency because of the election coming up.
And the media is in overdrive overdrive trying to make the president look bad.
We'll tell you the truth.
When he screws up, we'll tell you.
When he doesn't, we'll tell you.
We want to be fair and objective because this is way too important.
If you remember during the election of 2008, there was a guy named Joe the Plumber who said, you know, I've worked hard for my business and, you know, you want to tax me more and give it to other people.
And that's when Barack Obama really kind of outed himself as a guy who believed in the Marxist tendencies of share the wealth.
And he had that amazing exchange where he's like, I just think there comes a time where you've made too much money.
That didn't stop America from voting for Barack Obama, but it was a wake-up call to many people.
I think now, not Joe the Plumber, I think there is Jerry the Autoworker.
He's a guy who was meeting with Joe Biden in a group of autoworkers
just before the primary.
And he just asked the vice president a question about taking guns, and the president unloaded on him, and it was quite an amazing exchange.
We have Jerry with us now,
and his name is Jerry Wayne.
He was on with Dave Rubin yesterday.
I called Dave and said, Hey, Dave, can you give me Jerry's phone number?
Thank you very much for coming on this program as well, Jerry.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, thank you very much.
I appreciate you having me on.
So,
let me ask you a couple of questions first.
Are you
because we didn't see any of the interaction prior to, and the vice president came after you like you were a jerk and an enemy.
Can you tell me, was there anything that we didn't see before that video that
put you in a position to where he thought this guy is just going to attack me?
No, on all the videos, I think they captured just about everything.
Some of the videos you got to fish through, though, to see exactly what my question was I was quite respectful and articulate with my question I took some time to actually
to write it and
get to be able to actually move forward on that because you were reading it off of your cell phone and did you had an expectation of meeting him or is that was just in case you had a moment you wanted to ask this question
Yeah, I had no idea that I was going to be able to ask the question.
I just wanted to be prepared in case I did have the opportunity.
I mean, how many chances do you get to do that?
Right.
Now, you are a long-term auto worker.
You're a strong union guy.
Was this an honest question?
And I mean it this way.
There are people who are asking questions because they want to make a point.
And then there's others who
may make a point while doing it, but they're asking because they really want to know because Joe Biden might have been a candidate that they might have voted for.
Are you a guy who has voted for Democrats before, would consider
a Democrat or not?
Yeah, so first of all, I'm not an autoworker.
I'm a millwright by trade.
I'm a union millwright.
And yes, you're right.
I'm very, very strong with a union.
Yeah, I really support them.
Yeah,
I think I was on, yeah, the show last night.
I said I didn't vote for Trump last election.
I grew up Democrat, for sure.
I don't choose either side right now.
I'm just an American.
That's all I am.
Good for you.
Okay.
So
you
ask your question about, you say, you know, he's taking the,
you're going to be taking our guns.
Can you tell us the question that you actually asked him?
I can
paraphrase what I have in front of me.
That's fine.
Yeah.
So there's actually two questions in there.
One, I was curious about how he was going to keep us working like we are now.
Right now, our work is, we're doing really, really well.
All the the trades are out there
working a ton of hours and putting a lot of money into our pensions.
And he wants to come here and say that he can do a better job.
So I asked him how he was going to do that.
I wanted him to tell me what his plan was to make it even better than what it is right now because it's doing really well at the moment.
All right.
And then I wanted to see how he was going to obtain our votes.
There's a...
quite a large percentage of people that want to
hold their guns and they also want the Democratic Party to
represent their unions.
And I don't see how you're going to split that right down the middle and get both
things done and get the vote.
So that's not an adversarial question.
That is, you know, basically, I would read that as, I want to vote for a Democrat, but I'm worried that, A, you don't have a plan that's going to make things better.
You can say that, but I want to actually hear your plan.
I want to believe you.
And second, I'm really concerned because you guys keep talking about taking guns.
I want a Democrat to win, but you're going to take our guns.
Is that when he turned on you?
Well, just to back it up a little bit, I don't care if it's a Democrat, Republican, or anything.
I just want somebody in office with me.
But you're willing.
It's not like you Democrats are all going to.
It wasn't that.
Right.
No.
Yeah.
All right.
So, and is that when the tone completely changed in your mind with him?
The gun question?
Yeah, well,
his first remark
made me be drawn back a little bit, you know.
But I kind of just let him dig his own hole after that.
So
was it a surprise to you that
he reacted that way to you?
Yeah, for being a politician, I didn't expect that whatsoever.
I kind of expected him to just tell me, like, hey, we're not taking questions right now, you know, and just kind of
go around the bush a little bit.
Right.
But I think he showed up there knowing that, you know, the union's there and then the Democrats usually win unions and stuff like that.
And I think he wanted to go there just for a quick stunt and get our vote and walk out.
I don't think he was prepared for a
so
when his aide said, okay, all right, we're going to move on, he hushed,
he hushed her pretty sternly.
What was your reaction to that?
I didn't really pay much attention to it.
I figured, you know, they have their own, you know, professional relationship.
They're going to do whatever they're going to do.
That's not what I was there for.
I was there to make a stand.
I was there to call him out on something, and I want him to be able to respectfully articulate what his actual plan is to do it.
Because if you're going to go out and try to take our guns, it's not, we're not going to go, we're not going to go easy.
So, when he said,
I'm not going to come for your guns, I own a shotgun.
And then he started talking about the AR-14s.
When he said to you, you're a liar, basically.
You're a liar.
You know, you're saying you brought up the viral video that was on CNN.
It wasn't doctored.
It was a conversation with CNN.
And he absolutely denied that that was even real.
Do you think he knew what?
Go ahead.
That caught me off guard more than
his initial response.
I was expecting him to be like, yeah, we are going to take him and stuff like that.
And I'll tell you what, I would have respected that a lot more than him beating around the bush and trying to back up a little bit.
At least then we can have a conversation about it and move forward.
You know, and the reason I sat there and he kind of got aggressive with me, but I wanted to listen.
And I think that's what America's lacking right now is people actually wanting to listen to each other.
And I wanted to give him that opportunity.
And I listened to him, and not only did I hear him, but all of America did.
So let me play what he said that was, you know, the viral video.
Oh, yeah, they're all doctored.
Here's what he actually said.
And how do you translate this into anything other than, yeah, I am coming for your gun?
Listen.
Buy an assault weapon that has multiple rounds or buy an assault weapon that has 100 rounds.
Even though it may not, you can't point to the fact that it, in fact, had stopped it before.
Do you want more of them on the street?
Do we want to do that?
So to gun owners out there who say, well, a Biden administration means they're going to come for my guns.
Bingo, you're right if you have an assault weapon.
The fact of the matter is they should be illegal, period.
Okay, what's your problem with that, Jerry?
And I mean this sincerely.
You know, he's just saying it's an assault weapon.
You can keep your gun, just not that kind of gun.
You know, the reason he wants to go after these quote-unquote assault weapons, these long guns.
Why is that?
Is it because they're so accurate?
Because I tell you what, handguns kill more people than these so-called assault weapons so if he really cared for the american people don't you think he'd be going after them because he's not and that makes me feel as if there's a underlying issue there and that makes me want to hold on to him just that much more now what is the reaction to you now have you had fallout at work you the people that were around you what what is your life been like in the immediate
He just walked away.
What did the people around you do?
And how are you being affected positively or negatively now in your life?
Well, it's been quite a roller coaster.
Yeah, when I was there, there was quite a few people that were not happy with the question that I asked.
I was definitely rubbing against the grain there.
And I think it was just more important for me to stand up for America than it was the people around me.
But I tell you what, since then, I have had a flood of support from my peers and unions across the nation.
Really?
Yes.
In what way?
In saying that
some people call me a patriot.
Some people are calling me a hero.
And if that's what they want to call me, that's great.
I'm just a guy.
I'm just a guy that wanted to say something on his mind to a peer of mine who happened to be Joe Biden.
I think it's important that people know that Joe Biden is nothing more than a peer.
Really good point.
What's the general takeaway you hope people get from that interaction?
There's two things.
One, take time and actually listen to each other, even if it is an opposition, because you might learn something.
And two,
stand up.
As an American, it is your duty.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Jerry Wayne,
the man who confronted Joe Biden and was called
full of excrement by the vice president.
And he never denied it.
Never once in that call did he deny he's full of it.
Yeah, never.
No.
I didn't even catch that, Stu.
I should have have asked him.
Yeah, you didn't press him.
Yeah, you're not a very good interviewer, obviously.
But I will say, he did not seem to be adversarial.
He did not seem at all to have some of the things that I was doing.
I thought those were reasonable questions.
Totally.
And there's a certain brand of person who, like, once a YouTube hit,
I'm going to have this big YouTube moment with Joe Biden.
That was not what that was.
Yeah, no.
You watch the full interview with him with Dave Rubin.
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He is, he's just fantastic.
And in Curious, he was a guy who was way on the other side, worked with Jank or Sank or whatever his name is, worked with that guy at Young Turks and woke up and was like, wow, I am standing with the wrong people.
And he's truly a remarkable man.
You can check out Dave Rubin on his podcast, wherever you find podcasts, and also you can get the whole archive and everything else at blazetv.com slash glenn all right kevin is one of those wonderful people that go on the earth seemingly just to make people like me look bad he's a runner he runs half marathons
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He was running these all the time until his knees began to worsen, got so bad that eventually he couldn't run past five or six miles.
Huh?
What a weekly.
Again, people like Kevin just put here to make me look bad.
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Really important coronavirus update coming for you in just a few minutes.
We do coronavirus updates in hour number three every single day.
The information today is really, really good.
Stuff that you need to know.
Last night was just surreal.
Is it starting to be surreal for everybody else yet?
Is it starting to feel real at all for people?
Oh, I think it's totally hitting that point.
I mean, last night, you watch
the NBA
fill a stadium with fans in Oklahoma City.
Say go home.
And then say, ladies and gentlemen, due for unforeseen circumstances, games canceled.
See you later.
You're all safe, though.
You're all safe.
Don't worry.
You're all safe.
They literally said this over the PA.
Then everyone goes home.
We found out one of the players, one player, tests positive for coronavirus.
They cancel the whole season or suspend the whole season until further notice.
The NCAA tournament is supposed to play with no players.
Italy is closed, basically.
They're only allowing grocery stores, banks, and pharmacies, I think.
You know, what's crazy is
yesterday I was just talking to somebody in Rome, and she was torn.
She's like, you know what?
It's really, it's not so bad.
We're all being, you know, having common sense.
We still gather, just not in big numbers, and we're allowed to go out and stores are open and stuff, but we're all using common sense.
An hour later, they stop all of that.
And I'm going to show you the difference between the West and China and
why this could be worse in the West.
And it's just choices that we have to make.
In the West, you are expected to be a responsible citizen.
Unfortunately,
there's a lot of people who are like, oh, it's no big deal.
This is a very, very big deal.
We're not all going to die, but this is a very big deal.
And I'll explain that to you in today's coronavirus update, which is coming up next.
You're listening to Glenn Beck.
So if you are a thinking person that has been worried about the coronavirus, but you're not panicking, you probably are like most people, you're like, I don't know exactly what to do.
Should I wait for more information?
Should I do something today?
If so, what?
I mean, I don't want to panic, but I also don't want to be behind the curve.
How many cases of corona are right around me?
What happens if they start to materialize?
What do I do?
When do I do it?
Well, coronavirus is coming to you.
It's coming at an exponential speed now, gradually, and then boom, it's everywhere.
It's a matter of days, maybe a week to 14.
But when it does,
your hospital, your healthcare system is going to be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens and maybe you will be treated in a hallway or in a gym.
Who's going to get the oxygen?
Who's going to die?
The only way to do this is to social distance and do voluntarily what China did,
you know, through authoritarian rule.
That means stay home.
Do things you're supposed to do right now.
Well, there's not a lot of cases.
The coronavirus update today, we're going to take that on.
There's not a lot of cases.
No, you're just not seeing them.
We'll give you the evidence of that in one minute.
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All right, I want to give you our chrono rise update here quickly.
We have confirmed cases now 127,000.
That's up from 126,000 yesterday.
Total confirmed deaths 4,641.
That's up about 300.
Patients that have recovered 68,000 plus.
Now 125 countries have confirmed cases, up from 120 yesterday.
This is the best news.
The cases considered serious requiring hospitalization is down again today, down from 12%
to 11%.
We now have 1,336 confirmed cases here in the United States and 38 deaths.
That number is about to go through the roof, and you will understand in the next 30 minutes exactly why and what to do about it.
All 50 states have at least now one confirmed case or one presumptive case.
President Trump banned travel from mainland Europe last night for 30 days.
UK travel, not currently affected, they seem to be doing pretty well with this.
Ban will limit human travel.
Cargo-only travel will not face any restrictions at this time.
The order is effective as of today, March 12, 2020.
President Trump indicated that he will consider other travel bans from any hotspots as a means to follow the CDC recommendations to prevent bringing more infected people into the U.S.
Inbound travel to the U.S.
is now restricted for over a third of the world's population, including China, the U.K., Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, and Iran.
But we all know, thank God, we have the press, we all know he's only doing this to Europe because they're different.
They look so different in Germany and Sweden and France.
The
Congress was told yesterday that COVID-19 is 10 times more lethal than the flu.
If that comes as a shock to you, that you haven't been paying attention.
That's right now 10 times more fatal than the flu.
Containing the influx of infected people coming from other countries is super important,
but also social distancing and isolation of the sick.
Bottom line is, Congress was told this is going to get much worse quickly.
The U.S.
stock market is taking a beating.
We've now into the bear market.
We must be doing okay.
We already closed once today.
We took another breather on the stock market.
It was open for maybe 10 minutes before they.
Can you stop coughing while I I do this, dude?
It's really freaking me out, man.
Excuse me.
Can you just check on the stock market?
I don't see it up in front of me how we're doing.
We took another 10-minute breather.
I'm shocked that those things work, but this is something that was put into the stock market as a safety valve just in case panic starts.
Currently down 1,900 points, 8%.
How much?
8%?
We were down as much as 10% this morning.
It stopped at 7%, then it shot back up to 10%.
The next time they stop it, if it has to be stopped today, we'll be at 13% losses.
They'll stop it for 10 minutes.
Hopefully, everybody gained their senses.
And then it officially closes for the day if we ever hit 20%.
So they stop it at 7%, then at 13%,
then they stop it for the day at 20%.
Hopefully, we won't get to that.
But I will tell you,
we are in for a very long haul.
This is not something that is going to be over quickly.
President Trump also taking a beating in his approval rating.
Dailing tracking poll, he stood at 1% net approval.
That's approved minus disapprove on February 25th.
Yesterday, it just came out.
He is now 11 points underwater.
That's a 12-point swing on the online phone-based survey.
The president's handling of coronavirus cited as the major reason for the shift in voter attitudes.
This is a ridiculous charge, in my opinion.
Are there things that we could have done faster?
Yes.
Are there things we could have done differently?
Yes.
But I don't, I mean, he gets blamed for whatever he does.
Yesterday, they were, I can't believe he's not doing enough.
Okay, we're going to cancel all air travel for anybody who wants to come here for the next 30 days from, you know, Europe where it's just exploding.
I can't believe he's doing that.
Do you know what that's going to?
I mean, he can't win.
Joe Biden staffer accuses of Trump of deciding to let coronavirus get out of hand.
This is a senior staffer, the digital director of the campaign, tweeted yesterday: sure seems like this is getting out of hand.
And Donald Trump decided to let it be this way.
The tweet comes as Trump asked all Americans to put politics aside, stop the partisanship, and unify as one nation and one family.
The calls for the staffer to apologize gone unanswered.
Nobody's answering that phone.
Maybe because Joe Biden's expected to answer, and he's like, I keep hearing this ringing noise.
I don't know what it is.
The WHO finally calls COVID-19 a pandemic.
We've known this for a while.
They actually
said yesterday, speculation I should say, those around suggested that the WHO did not call this a pandemic a couple of weeks earlier when we all knew what it was.
It had fit the official definition.
But the reason why they didn't say that it was a pandemic is because they were afraid that people would go, Pah, geez, well, if it's a pandemic, there's nothing we can do.
The decision came out yesterday to finally call this a pandemic because they're hoping that they can get people from throwing up their arms and saying, see, this is really no big deal.
It's a very, very big deal.
New obstacles to testing in the U.S., lack of critical regent chemicals.
This This is going to be a mounting problem.
We need certain chemicals.
We've been foolish.
This really started under Clinton and then just spiraled under control.
I've been talking about it now over three decades.
This has been a topic
of mine saying we are foolish.
to give everything to China.
They are taking control of our drugs, and if they ever turn into an enemy, control what we can do.
They control the medicine on the battlefield for America.
Now, the battlefield is America, and it's not bullets, it's the coronavirus, and we need our own services, and we need critical infrastructure here.
But this has been a 30-year spiral out of control.
It's going to take us a while.
Between 70 million and 150 million Americans, they're now saying, are going to be infected with this.
Fighting to make this 1% a reality, the case fatality rate of 1%
is the goal.
Let me say that again.
Fighting to make the 1% death rate a reality is a goal.
It's not automatic.
The 1% case mortality rate for COVID-19 is not something that is consistent everywhere.
1% or less is achievable and possible, but it assumes infected people get critical medical care.
And every single one of us now has a role to play, and we must take personal responsibility.
Your role is very simple.
Don't spread the disease.
Don't get the disease.
Don't expose yourself to large groups.
And I'm going to give you some information here in just a second that will show you this is easier than you think
and in some ways, harder than you think, only if you don't realize it's already here.
It's already here.
As we've seen in China, Iran, Italy, case fatality rates, 3.5% in China, 8% in Iran, 6% in Italy, are probable with COVID-19 once the hospital systems become overwhelmed.
There's a goal that each of us should have.
Do everything you can to not get infected.
Wash your hands, don't touch your face, clean the surfaces that you touch all the time, socially distance yourself from others.
This will happen to you.
I've been saying this for a while.
We're all gonna get this.
And the reason why I've been saying it is because I want people to understand: oh, this is never gonna happen to me.
It's not gonna come here, it's not gonna really be a problem.
It's going to happen to you.
Now,
how can I say that with such assurance?
Well, I will give you that information here in one minute.
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All right, so I want to talk to you
a little bit
about
a story that I found today in
Medium,
and we'll pass it on to you.
I'll post it at Glenbeck.com so you have it.
But it's really important that you listen to some of the information that is coming out.
I'm posting something else, and if you missed it earlier in today's show, I gave you the stats of how this is going to overwhelm our hospital system, and it's only a matter of time.
That doesn't mean that you panic.
That just means you have the information so you understand what's coming so you can do
your part in making sure that you don't get it or you don't help spread it.
First,
we need to talk about coronavirus.
How many people are going to have it around you?
How many people are going to have it in your area of influence, in your community?
Total number of cases grew exponentially until China contained it.
But then it leaked outside.
Pandemic can't be stopped at this point.
As of today, this is mostly due to Italy, Iran, and South Korea.
There are dozens of countries now with exponential growth rates.
Most of them today are Western, and the United States has just crossed the line into exponential growth.
Let me me give you some history and perspective.
On January 21st, the number of new diagnosed cases was exploding.
There were about a hundred new cases.
But in reality,
in reality, there's the shadow stat, if you will, what we know and then what's actually happening.
So what was actually happening, we said there's a hundred new cases today, but actually there were 1,500 new cases that day, growing exponentially.
The authorities didn't know this.
All we knew is that there were suddenly 100 new cases of this illness.
Two days later, they shut down Wuhan.
At that point, the number of diagnosed daily new cases was only 400.
Note that number, only 400.
And I remember saying on the air, if there's only 400 cases, why would they shut a city of millions down?
It made no sense.
But here's what they didn't know at the time but suspected.
There weren't 400 new cases that day there were actually 2500 new cases that day after
24 hours they closed another 15 cities
shut down
really there was like 600 cases then up until January 30 23rd until Wuhan closed it was growing exponentially the cases were exploding now the official cases were growing exponentially for 12 more days.
It looked like this thing was still exploding, but at that time, it wasn't.
It had already exploded.
The numbers that you hear every day are actually behind.
The official numbers
are not capturing the growth, and then they're telling you it's still growing when it's not.
And that's really important that you say, here's the official number, and here are the true cases.
The work that China did cannot be done in the West.
They set up a system of
quarantine that we would not tolerate.
If you went to the hospital in China early on, they had a triage outside of every hospital.
You weren't going in to the hospital.
And they had the full, you know,
kind of suits that were under this tent.
And you were like, I think I have a fever.
Come over here and let me look at that.
No, no, you're fine.
Don't be spooked by this suit.
Ha ha, we're all laughing.
It's a Halloween costume party.
So they immediately take your fever, your temperature.
If you had a fever, you immediately went into a new category.
Then they had like industrial lines of
CAT scans.
I'm not sure what the CAT scans were telling them, but they would get a CAT scan of you right away.
And this is before you even went into the hospital.
Then, if you had a temperature and your scan came back, you were put into one of three categories, four.
You don't have it, category one.
You have something, but it's mild.
You have
coronavirus, but we think it's you're a medium case or you're in real trouble.
You didn't have a choice.
Unless you didn't have it.
You didn't have a choice.
Once you went to the doctor and you show up at the hospital, if you had a fever, you were done.
But they didn't put you in the hospital.
They put you in a stadium or in a gym or someplace else where they built these little mobile hospitals.
Little was not the right word for them.
You did not leave.
Here in America, we don't do this.
We don't do this in Germany.
We don't do it in France or Italy or any place else.
We expect our people to understand
and police themselves.
But this is what, this is why they could contain it and why things are really getting out of hand in the West.
They did a flat line.
I mean, they really did things that I would not be comfortable about.
South Korea, Italy, Iran had a full month to learn, but they didn't.
Now this has exploded.
And Washington state.
We're not going to be able to contain it like we do, like they did in Wuhan.
We don't want to, or eastern countries.
When you don't do that and people are not understanding what they're dealing with, you get a colossal epidemic.
Currently, the official number in Washington is 140.
That's not the real number.
And a little later on in the program, I will take you through how you figure out what the real number is.
Speculation.
We'll do that coming up.
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I want to introduce you to one of the most fascinating men men I know, Jeff Brown.
He's a chief technology analyst at Bonner and Partners.
He's the editor of The Bleeding Edge.
He is a guy who really lives, eats, and breathes high-tech.
He was an executive in the high-tech industry for 25 years, an angel investor in some of the bigger tech products.
He really kind of studies all of it and can really break it down on what's coming, what's coming next.
And he's fascinating to me because he sees over the horizon and he has a way of just saying, nope, watch this person, watch this person.
He is,
he's got all of the qualifications that you need to talk about the economy, tech, how we're going to change, and coronavirus.
I asked him to come on today to talk a little bit about a vaccine.
He was on our special last night.
We just ran out of time.
And there's some exciting things that he said are just on the horizon.
Welcome to the program, Jeff.
Let me start with
Gilead.
You said Gilead is doing
some work that's very exciting on not a vaccine, but on actually being able to treat this if you get it and you're really sick.
That's right.
So Gilead
has a drug called Rendesivir,
which is already in the pipeline.
In fact, it was tested against the Ebola virus
with some effect and certainly shows very strong potential to be effective against COVID-19.
The great thing is, because Remdesivir is
a product in clinical trials, is that they can pretty much immediately
begin testing by the end of this month and we should have very early data available by the end of April.
Because COVID is not affected at all by any kind of antibiotic.
And so we don't really have anything.
We don't have any natural immunity, no antibodies to fight it.
So we need something to help us fight.
Is it Regeneron is also another one that is close to human trials?
In terms of the larger biotech or pharmaceutical companies, I would say my second favorite is Regeneron.
They're doing some leading work on what's called
antibodies
and they have a unique approach, which is basically they create genetically altered mice
and use those mice to produce antibodies that can potentially fight against
the antigens, which are the viral proteins that come from COVID-19, the virus.
And the advantage of that approach is Regeneron, given its size and scale, believes they could have as many as 200,000 doses of these antibodies ready by the end of August, which obviously is not far away.
So we would expect that.
And they were working on this before.
That's the key.
They had already done all the paperwork for something else.
What were they trying to fight before they realized, oh my gosh, this will be great for COVID-19?
Well, they have
we can kind of think about the antibody approach as almost being like a technology platform from which they can produce different kinds of antibodies for different kinds of diseases.
This is certainly just one application.
Regeneron really
became large from its success with a drug called ILA.
which was actually a drug that you mentioned, or a case that you mentioned yesterday on the show, which was the bleeding eye disease.
And Regeneron really has the majority of that market share.
The other thing that they're working on, which is incredibly promising, is basically
a new cure for
non-Hodgkin,
sorry, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
Wow.
Is this the company that is a deadly form of cancer?
Is this the company that's out of Israel?
Because there was one that popped up out of Israel a couple of weeks ago, and they said, hey, we were working on something.
We happen to use Corona,
not not COVID-19, but Corona, and we're close to something, but then we never heard anything about it.
Is that Regeneron?
Yeah, that's not the company.
Not the company.
There are literally more than 80 clinical trials right now
in mainland China that have either started or are being planned.
And so, you know, what's happening is that anyone that has anything that might show any promise whatsoever
has lined up to
try it out.
And it's actually wonderful.
I've never seen an industry response from the biotechnology and pharmaceutical sector as rapid and responsive as what we've seen.
Is that because they're just all greedy capitalists that want to make money?
Or is this
what why is this response so different?
Well, I'll share with you my own
personal speculation, and that is that
they are absolutely looking to buy goodwill
with the policymakers in D.C.
and right here in Washington.
You know, given the current discussion over drug prices and all the back and forth negotiations, what a perfect crisis to react quickly and show a positive movement to
address this situation.
It's a very smart move on industry's part, but it's certainly self-interest.
So let me ⁇ well, and also just keeping themselves alive and everybody else alive.
I mean, I don't want to assume that people don't have good intent as they're trying to make drugs.
The vaccine, we go through
and we say, we've got a vaccine.
I think I'm a company, Glenn's company has just made a vaccine.
To get from that place
to
available at your CVS for a seasonal flu shot or something like that, that's at least 18 months away.
So let's put things in kind of
almost historical perspective.
Vaccines could oftentimes take 15 or 20 years to get to the stage of FDA approval.
And the reason is that historically they've used literally live pathogens, so live viruses that they give to us in hopes that our body will be strong enough to fight those pathogens.
Of course, they're weakened.
So they're very light and unlikely to make us sick, but it's not 100%.
And so the approaches that we're taking today,
you know, we're talking about accelerated timelines of 18 months from now.
So
have you ever seen that before?
No, of course not.
And I'll have to be honest, I seriously doubt that will happen within that timeframe.
It would be highly unusual.
So Jeff, this is the one thing that I've been trying to say to people, and I don't think they get.
This is we're all going to get this, whether it's a really bad version of it but it's going to be around for a long time and a version of it will be around for probably forever like the 1918 flu is still around and we get that every every winter a version of that
but this is a this is a very long-term thing and we don't know if this has a season to it or not I've read conflicting reports.
This has a season.
It'll die out in summer.
I've heard other people say, no, it's not going to die out.
Early reports are that it's not.
What is this going to do to our healthcare system, to our economy, to the election, and everything else?
How bad do you see this getting?
Not just in numbers, but I mean economic numbers.
Yeah.
Well, I think I have some very good news on that front.
Okay.
So the unique unique thing about these coronaviruses that have mutated from a bird or a mammal into something that can actually be transmitted successfully to a human, and then for humans to be able to transmit them to other humans, is they tend to continue to mutate.
Right.
And generally speaking, those further mutations tend to be disadvantageous to the virus.
And so what that means is it's highly likely that over time
COVID-19 will run its course.
It's unlikely on a percentage basis that it would actually evolve into something stronger.
It's highly likely it will evolve into something much weaker.
Okay, so with that being said, that's also kind of like the FDA approval process.
That could happen tomorrow, unlike that, but it's most likely that's going to take time.
What do we look like?
I mean, just the impact of what the president said last night on, you know, travel to Europe, the impact economically.
What should we be doing
with our 401 and everything else?
And
you're more qualified than I am.
What do we do?
And what's it going to look like?
You know, today is one of those
I like to think of today as one of those gut-wrenching
pullbacks in the market
after
two terrible weeks of volatility.
The S ⁇ P
500 down peaked to where we are now, 22%, or NASDAQ, 25%.
I mean,
this is what market bottoms tend to feel like.
It's that's gross discomfort in your stomach that says things just aren't right.
And when I look at market valuations,
they just don't make sense anymore.
There's fabulous companies that are way undervalued.
I think this,
if we're not here already, we're very close, probably days away from an extraordinarily good buying opportunity.
I think for
smart investors who have cash to deploy, these are one of those rare opportunities.
Because when the market does rebound, it won't rebound over two years.
We'll see sharp rebounds over the period of months, just as we did back in December of the fourth quarter of 2018 when we had the Fed-induced, you know, aggressive interest rate hikes,
mini-recession back then.
But do you think I will say this about the summer?
I think, go ahead.
It's more important to hear.
You were going to say, go ahead.
So the summer, I'm actually very optimistic about the summer.
We have very data
during
the time of the Spanish flu, during the time of the H1N1,
where we saw these big peaks for the initial wave, which is what we're seeing right now with COVID-19, and then those warmer summer months come in, and it just really falls off.
The cases decline very rapidly.
So are you seeing the numbers that show that that is going to happen?
Because I've read it both ways.
You're seeing and you're pretty convinced that it's it's going to have a season?
It's viruses like this, well, let's be clear, it'll be in the northern hemisphere, of course.
Yeah.
You know, in the southern hemisphere where it's winter,
COVID-19 will certainly persist.
You don't see much change in the tropics with a virus like this because you don't have those
swings.
But summer will bring sunshine.
People will be outdoors.
Vitamin D is good for boosting the immune system.
Higher levels of humidity are not as conducive for an airborne virus like COVID-19.
We should absolutely see these cases fall very rapidly.
So if we think about May, June, July, August, September, and I see that as a bit of a respite for the CDC and
our broad healthcare system to really get their act together on these testing kits and build up inventory.
Because that's where the fear comes from.
We don't have enough data.
To the point that you were making earlier, there absolutely has been exponential growth in the number of people that have contracted this.
And the number of cases are at least 10 times larger than anything that we've seen.
They're probably 100 times larger.
Correct.
And that put things into perspective on
how tiny, literally tiny the mortality rate actually is for COVID-19.
across the entire spectrum of those who have become infected.
We will, however, Glenn, we're going to see a second wave.
And if history repeats itself for these types of airborne viruses, the second wave, which will probably start around early October, will be about half the size, half the peak of what we saw in the first wave.
So it won't be as bad.
I thought 1918, I thought the second wave was actually worse.
I'm glad to hear that.
Jeff, where can people follow you?
If they want to follow you and read some more from you and
pick up the breakfast.
The The easiest place to go is to my free daily
technology e-letter called The Bleeding Edge.
You can just search for The Bleeding Edge, Jeff Brown, sign up for free.
And obviously, I've been covering COVID-19
since late December.
This has been an intense area of focus and study.
Stay on top of this pretty much on a daily basis.
Great.
We will talk to you again, Jeff.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Jeff Brown, The Bleeding Edge.
Follow him.
He is really, really
way ahead of, I think, everybody else in many ways.
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