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Hey, podcasters, today, a great show.

We start right with a farmer who is, I think, Stu, he likes Michael Bloomberg, right?

Because Michael's taught him an awful lot.

Oh, tugs.

And so we have a farmer right off the bat to talk about Bloomberg and his ideal health care ideas as well.

A news story that, you know, Democrats, you're actually in bed with the devil.

Rudy Giuliani joins us for an hour to talk about Trump and the different things going on with the Ukraine, China, and now he says a new document that shows that Joe Biden himself, not just Hunter,

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We have uh it's not Michael Bloomberg on the phone, is it?

Who do we have on the phone?

Hello,

hello,

hello.

Are you

I can't understand you.

You sound like you're speaking in the wrong end of the phone.

Mr.

Ben, yes,

Hi.

I was talking on the wrong side of the phone.

Okay.

All right.

Well, then.

I do that about half the time.

You do that about half the time.

Someone dialed the phone for me.

I dialed seven and you never answered what I dialed seven.

Right.

Well, I that's not my phone number, seven.

And uh I wanted to talk to you.

I'm a farmer.

You're a farmer.

I'm a farmer.

You're a farmer.

Okay.

You know what?

I just put seeds in the ground.

Yeah.

I cover it in dirt.

Yeah.

Put some water on it.

And the corn comes up.

That's what I've done.

That's what you do.

Now that's what Michael Bloomberg says, that it's all required.

He could teach anyone to be a farmer.

And

so I first started farming a while ago, been doing it for a long time.

Uh-huh.

Last week I learned how to put on my own shoes.

You put your own shoes on.

I learned how to farm first.

You farmed what?

I learned how to farm first.

Okay, before you learned how to put your shoes up.

Because the shoe part was harder.

Right.

Than farming, because farming.

Right, can you give me the process again according to Michael Bloomberg?

Yeah, you put seed in the ground.

Put a seed in the ground.

Putting dirt on top of that.

Put dirt on top.

Put water on top of that.

Yeah.

And then you got the corn popping up.

Okay, so now what does the water do?

One thing I want to warn you about, though,

if you try this at home,

the corn, when it pops up, can't just eat it.

Can't eat it.

No, there's

leaf wrappers on it.

Leaf wrappers?

Yeah, there's wrappers that are leaves.

You're not supposed to eat the leaf wrappers.

Okay, all right.

I will also say that in the middle of the leaf wrappers

happened to be a corn core.

Corn core.

Very too crunchy to eat.

All right.

So the corn is between the leaf wrapper and the core.

Right.

Eat that part.

Okay.

And when you get that part,

you put the water.

Remember how I said you put the water on top?

Yes, yes, yes.

You put the water on top to make the corn, and then you cook the corn in the water, too.

Put the corn on the top.

Really?

Put the water on top of the corn.

So

I'm a little lost here.

So the leaf wrappers off, put it in water, and that cooks the corn.

Wow.

It's called farming.

Right.

How long did it take you to learn that scientific process?

Three seconds.

Three seconds.

Yeah, I was four years old.

My mama told me, hey,

put the dirt on there, on the seed.

Put the water on top and the corn pop out.

Okay.

And I've been doing that forever.

And then just the other day,

I was able to take my first shower.

Your first shower?

Yeah, I didn't learn how to shower until yesterday.

Really?

Yes.

Now, are you glad that Michael Bloomberg's around?

Oh, I'm going to be voting for Michael Bloomberg for sure.

All the votes.

Because he understands.

You see, there's a big separation you need to understand.

Right.

What's the separation?

There's dumb people like me who are farming.

And what do we do?

You know, we, sure, we feed people all around the world and

keep people nourished with healthy produce that's shipped all across the world and increase our crop yields to levels never before seen using GPS tractors that are

actually

it's incredible what we do

but it's not as good as is like what he does which is getting stock prices to people

right that's pretty impressive and you know the information tech

technology

Charlotte

technology yeah that's impressive because how else you gonna share those cat videos?

Right.

If you got a video of a cat doing something cute,

well that's just going to stay in your house if it wasn't for people like Michael Bloomberg.

Right.

Okay.

Now, sure, I can ship thousands of varieties of produce all around the world with a global ship

supply chain that certainly would be impressive to anyone who knew anything about it.

But, I mean, he's helping those cat videos get out there.

Right.

Which is pretty damn impressive, too.

Right.

All right.

Well, thank you very much.

I'm sure you have some seeds to put in a a hole.

You know what I've been doing?

What?

I put the seeds in the hole.

I put the dirt on top, put the water on top of that, and the corn pop out.

And just yesterday, I learned that the underwear is supposed to go inside the pants.

I've been wearing them outside for 40 years.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Just yet another farmer from the middle of the country voting for Michael Bloomberg, which I think is, which I think is, I mean, it still makes sense, doesn't it?

I mean, all the farmers,

all the metal workers,

he said, all metal workers, you just put a piece of metal in the lathe, and you turn the crank in the direction of the arrow, and you've got a job.

Yeah, you got to have the arrow, though.

That's important.

Right.

You got to know, because they wouldn't be able to figure out which way to

turn it unless the arrow was not.

No, I mean, I wouldn't,

you know, I don't think that there's.

He's not talking down to metal workers or to farmers.

Or to farmers.

Yeah.

And I want to give you, in case you didn't hear, this is the actual quote.

Do we have the audio of him saying this?

I think we do.

You, yeah, go ahead.

You dig a hole

in this room, so no offense intended.

To be a farmer.

It's a process.

You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn.

Then we had 300, you could learn that.

Then you have 300 years of the Industrial Society.

You put the piece of metal on the lathe, you turn the crank, and the direction of the arrow, and you can have a job.

And we created a lot of jobs.

One point, 98% of the world worked in agriculture.

Today, it's 2% in the United States.

Now comes the information economy.

And the information economy is fundamentally different because it's built around replacing people

with technology.

And the skill sets that you have to learn are how to think and analyze.

And that is a whole degree level

different.

We had that farmer back up.

You have to have a different skill set.

You have to have a lot more gray matter.

Because you have to have more gray matter.

Because

you don't think or analyze if you're a farmer or a metal worker.

Incredible.

That is.

That's incredible.

You know how it's...

I could not get something to grow out of the ground if you paid me $10,000.

Do you know how hard it is?

How much you have to know about...

It's not like you bought some dirt on it.

You know how much you have to know about the dirt?

I don't.

No, I have no idea.

You don't.

I know either.

I go to a store and it's all there.

That's why.

Right.

And that's not because of me.

It's because of farmers.

Right?

It's because of farmers and it's because of

capitalism.

They could be replaced.

You know, you know what this is?

You know what this is?

This is the exact opposite of a Marxist revolution.

The Marxists used to say, you know, all the bourgeoisie, all the shop owners, all the intellectuals, you know, they're the ones that are getting us into trouble.

So they went and they killed anybody with a skill in a shop.

They did it to the farmers, too.

But they really started with the shop owners, the bourgeoisie, the capitalists that had a skill.

Have you ever seen a, I collect watches.

Anybody seen a Russian watch before?

You ever see anybody go, ooh, wow.

Wow, that's a great watch.

Where was that made?

Oh, the former Soviet Union?

Still, today,

nothing good, watchmaking, nothing

comes out of Russia that's any good.

Why?

Because during the revolution, they killed all the watchmakers.

They killed them all.

They couldn't keep time.

They had to learn it all from the start because what they did, and they did this with farmers too.

Oh, you know what?

Who wants land?

Who wants land?

Who wants to be a farmer?

Well, I'll be a farmer.

How's it work?

You just put a hole in the ground, put a seed in it, throw some dirt on it, pour some water, and up comes the corn.

Well, that sounds great.

Yeah, well, the farmers aren't producing enough.

Now, you know nothing about it except everything you need to know, right?

Yeah, I put a hole, and then I put a seed, and then I put dirt, and then I put water.

Yes, that's all you need to know.

You can do better than they can, right?

Sure I can.

Is there dirt and a seed and water there?

Yep.

Okay, I'll do it.

They killed all the farmers.

They just replaced them with other people who had never had any farming experience.

You know what happened?

People starved to death and they couldn't write down what time it was when the person died because they didn't have any watches or clocks either.

This is incredible.

This is the elitist mentality that every socialist always has.

They always, we can do it better.

We just do it from top down.

You know, now technology, yeah, technology, you have to analyze things.

When it comes to what's wrong with the crops, you don't have to analyze anything.

Did you put dirt on top of the seed?

Yeah, I did, Pa.

Did you put water on it?

I did, Pa.

Well, there ain't any corn coming up.

You skipped either step one or step two.

This is so insulting.

How much more

is this country going to take?

Seriously, how money, how

let me rephrase that.

How much more are the Democrats going to take?

And I don't mean the Democrats in the big cities or especially the Democrats, the ones who are sitting there in their think tanks that are all about the Democratic Party.

I mean the average person that votes for a Democrat.

How much more are you going to take?

How much more are you going to take before you realize,

I'm in bed with the devil?

In fact, you know what?

I actually have a story that will prove to you you're actually in bed with the devil.

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We have a farmer on again.

Turn the phone around, the other side.

Oh, hi.

Hi, you're speaking into the earpiece again.

I pressed number seven, and I'm glad you're here.

There's more numbers than that.

I just wanted to tell you one more thing about farming that I've left out from before.

Okay.

There's a hole in the ground,

and the corn seed was put there for you and me.

There's a hole in the ground where the corn seed goes.

Somebody's making money.

No, it's

a hole in the ground where the corn seed goes.

Somebody's making money.

Why would you do this?

What?

There's a hole in the ground in the ground.

There's a hole where the corn goes for you and me.

No, okay, stop it.

Stop.

Stop.

Hang up the phone.

Oh, my gosh.

Why would we do that when we have the Johnny Cash version of There's a Hole in the Sky?

You know, all the farmers love this from, of course, the Seattle City Council meeting.

Do we have it?

People hate us.

I hate us.

I know.

Here it is.

This is the country version.

Hole in the sky.

Tree once was.

Such a lack of light and sound.

All that's left is bare, muddy ground.

A magnificent tree was murdered.

The mighty dollar cut it down.

There's a hole in the sky where the tree once was.

Somebody's making money.

There's a hole in the sky where the tree once was.

Somebody's making money.

There's a hole in the sky, in the sky.

That tree did not belong to you or me.

There's a hole in the sky where that tree should be.

I wonder if you have the guts to get a comment from Rudy Giuliani on the hole in the sky where the tree should be.

Will he comment on it?

I don't think he will.

I think he's afraid of the issue, to be frank with you.

I'm afraid of it.

Are you calling me chicken?

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Mr.

Rudy Giuliani.

Welcome to the program, sir.

Are you there?

Good to see you, Glenn.

How are you?

How are you?

So glad to have you.

I'm good.

I'm really good.

Glad to have you

on the program.

I was just interested in your shave secret because I shaved myself with a straight razor this morning and I cut myself.

You use a straight razor?

Yeah, I do it every couple of days just to feel like Clint Eastwood.

Yeah.

My grandfather used to use a straight razor.

I've always wanted to use it.

My grandfather was a barber.

Was he?

Oh, yeah.

And you know, he used to.

Yeah.

So I decided about a year ago I had to learn how to do it.

Yeah.

All right.

Let me ask you this.

You're in our New York studios, and I appreciate you coming in for the interview.

Oh, I enjoy it.

First, if we can, before we get into the nitty-gritty about Ukraine and Biden and Trump and everything else, can you give us

your thoughts on Bloomberg?

You know Michael Bloomberg.

Sure, I know Michael really well.

I mean, I

endorsed him for mayor.

A lot of people think that got him elected because of a very unusual time.

It was right after September 11th.

He was way behind, and I was at probably at the height of popularity.

I was like 90% approval at that point.

I kind of have an issue with him right now because of stopping a question in Frisk, which he he said he inherited, but he's not making a distinction that's really important.

When I had stop, question and frisk, which I developed with Bratton, Safer, and then Bernie Carrick,

we were challenged by the Justice Department as well.

And I went down and argued the case in front of Janet Reno and Eric Holder, and I demonstrated to them that we were doing it constitutionally.

But the difference was that we had very clear records, that people were stopped for reasonable cause.

Our success rate was acceptable.

And the most important thing is, for example, the objection was that we were searching 68% African-American males, but they were only about 15% of the population.

Well, the point that we made is they actually committed about

72% of the violent crime.

So it was in fact

a valid It was in fact a valid

number.

I just threw away my cell phone.

No, I'm watching.

If you're watching on the Blaze, you just saw him reach into his pocket, grab his cell phone, and throw it.

And Billy didn't catch it.

Billy didn't catch it.

Well, there it goes.

He didn't catch it, Billy.

But the reality is we showed that we kept it very well controlled.

Based on Terry versus the United States, you're entitled to stop someone on reasonable suspicion and ask them a question.

And then if that develops any more suspicion of a crime, you can do a search.

And if if the search reveals a gun or narcotics or stolen jewelry, you can make an arrest.

So you have to do this in stages.

Even the mere fact that they called it stop and frisk showed they didn't understand it.

It's stop, according to the United States against Terry.

It's stop, question, frisk.

So here's the difference.

My last year, we were a little under 100,000 stops.

When he got it declared unconstitutional, he took it all the way up to 600,000 stops.

Jeez.

And he had a 5% success rate.

5% success rate.

What is that?

550,000 people who get searched and they have nothing on them?

I mean,

it was a difficult thing that he did.

I agree with it because it is a good method for taking guns out of the community.

But you've got to understand the Constitution if you're going to do it.

You have to read the Terry case.

You have to understand that it's a very technical thing that has to be done.

And maybe his failure being a lawyer kind of hurt.

I don't know.

Let's switch over to Trump and the impeachment and what's happened since.

I think people saw this impeachment for what it was, which I think was incredible.

Just incredible.

This is the most botched

case I've ever seen.

I've just never seen the American people show less interest in something.

They knew almost from the outset that this was just a bunch of garbage.

Yeah, and it's emerging for me and has been for the last three or four months that this was planned.

This is not just happenstance that, you know, they found a few things.

This started to get planned somewhere in 2015.

I can trace it back to a meeting in the White House in 2016 when

members of the Obama and Biden NSC met with Ukrainian officials.

I have three witnesses to this.

Three Ukrainian witnesses under oath, willing to come to the United States and swear to this, that

U.S.

officials told

the Ukrainians to dig up dirt on Manafort in particular, and then inside meetings on Trump and on Trump Jr.

It was followed up by telephone calls.

One of the people involved is the suspected whistleblower.

If that's true, he'd be there at the beginning and the end.

Yeah.

In other words, he'd be there at the beginning of trying to stop Trump, kind of like Peter Strzzok.

I have a plan to prevent him, but if I can't prevent him, I have an insurance policy to take him out.

I mean, this is not a way to relate to a presidency, to a candidacy.

There's a sickness to this that gets very, very close to a conspiracy to bring about a coup that went on for two or three or four years, not just

for a short period of time.

So are you satisfied that something is being to

make the people pay for

this

conspiracy?

Because it really is.

I'll know that when it ends.

I am not a patient person.

I was never a long investigator.

Investigators tend to take long because they're very precise and they want everything perfect.

I mean, I did the commission case in two years, you know, the commission of the mafia.

We did the seizure of the Teamsters in three years.

We took over the entire union and tossed out the organized crime people and straightened it out.

I like to investigate fast.

I like to

get it done fast.

I think evidence kind of shrivels up when you let it go too long.

A lot of these modern prosecutors, you know, investigate forever.

So I'm a little impatient with the time that's gone by.

I mean,

let's look at

Let's look

some of the crimes here.

There's a DNC official named Alexander Shalupa

who was giving information, was turned, was getting information from Ukrainians and turning it over to American reporters.

Well, that's the crime they were supposedly investigating President Trump for that he didn't do.

How come they're not investigating her?

What was it?

She's a Democrat, so she has immunity.

It's kind of ridiculous.

And Joe Biden, you know, admitted a bribe

on

January,

I've forgotten the date, 28th or 27th of 2018, he said, I told that prosecutor, I told that president, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you don't get your $1 billion.

That's the crime of bribery.

There's also evidence that Ukrainians can come here and testify that he had an earlier bribe.

Sloshzewski, who was the crook, that hired Biden's son.

Basically, the payments to Biden's son were a bribe to Joe Biden to get Joe Biden to protect the company.

Because when Biden bribed the president of the Ukraine, he got him to dismiss three cases, not one.

The case against his son, the case against the oligarch who had stolen $5 billion and now has that safely in his possession, and a case against a company that was going to be seized by the Ukrainian government that the crook, the oligarch, the organized criminal, is now sitting in Ukraine fat and happy holding.

So this is a very, very serious crime at the highest levels of government.

And it's only because of our corrupt media that this thing is not going forward.

And the fear that our prosecutors have that

they're going to be pilloried by the corrupt media, like what they're trying to do with Bill Barr right now.

They're trying to intimidate him.

Right.

Rudy, did you?

I don't know if you saw our last special, the last special I did, I think, two weeks ago.

Yep.

It was excellent.

About Kolomoisky.

And

looking at the document from Latvia and seeing the money trail.

And we know where that money went.

We know that it went to Kolomoyski.

And so he's sitting there with a lot of this money.

He then, at the same time, is made a governor

right where the war is happening with Russia.

He's known as building

the military and buying all this stuff with his own money.

He may have used his own money, but is there a chance that this was

an illegal war that we didn't go through Congress?

Is there a chance?

Sure, there's a chance.

And Kolomoyski, in the process, developed his own militia.

Right.

So he's a very frightening man.

Basically, you know,

if you think of Ukraine, think of Game of Thrones if you've watched Game of Thrones, or think of medieval England before they had a king.

Like 10 or 12 barons, the oligarchs.

They are at war with each other and in alliances with each other all the time.

Not all of them are violent.

Some of them are.

I should say not all of them are crooked, but I'm not sure that's right.

Right.

But he is.

But some are more crooked than others.

And Kolomoyski is...

Frightening.

He's a Tony Soprano kind of character.

Yeah, he tends to be more volatile and out of control, more violent.

But the others do killing too.

I mean, for example, Shokin, who's the principal witness, the man that Biden had fired

in September, October, got very ill, brought to the hospital.

They had to bring him to Austria.

And he was examined by the doctor who saved the life of four people that Russians and Ukrainians have poisoned.

And that doctor, who's world famous,

gave me an affidavit saying he was poisoned with mercury and almost killed and

lost the use of a good deal of his kidney and

he probably is going to survive.

This is the one Biden had fired.

This is the one Biden had fired.

All of a sudden, he gets poisoned with mercury two days after they raid President Poroshenko's home.

The real fear in Ukraine, Glenn, and nobody here gets it because they're covering it up.

The corruption with our media could be as bad as Biden's corruption.

The real fear in Ukraine, the

top of the food chain here is Poroshenko.

Poroshenko got

maybe 100 million.

He's the guy who built that huge palace

for himself, right?

It's now, I think it's...

He stole the Ukrainian people blind.

He was a good friend of Biden's.

That woman, Yanukovych, who was against corruption, she endorsed him for president.

Everybody knew he was the biggest crook in the country.

The Democrats are so phony.

In fact, I have a report that I'm going to put out because I put them out one or two a week, that says that without any doubt, during the Obama years, corruption in Ukraine increased dramatically.

Well, how could it not have increased?

Our vice president went there and committed corruption, right?

Right.

Okay.

His son's relationship was corruption.

Rudy Giuliani is with us.

His podcast is Common Sense.

And Rudy, I want to go back to something you just said a minute ago.

You're releasing these documents in dribs and drabs.

Why are you choosing to do it that way?

Well, I'm choosing to do it that way because I actually have released them before.

One or two are new, but I released them starting in February and March of last year in the hope they'd be picked up by the FBI, the Justice Department, and maybe change the mind of the press that that this was a real crime.

And all they did was try to destroy John Solomon,

who did nothing wrong other than to break a story that he should take the Pulitzer Prize for.

I agree.

And they've made him into some kind of scoundrel.

He printed nothing untrue.

There's nothing that I've said that's untrue and that isn't supported by evidence.

Right.

They say Shokin is corrupt.

Shokin says the same thing Biden says.

Biden says, I forced the president to fire the prosecutor with the threat of money.

That's bribery.

Shokin says he got me fired.

The only dispute they have is Shokin can prove that he was investigating Biden and his son.

And I now have the prosecutorial documents that show that all during that period of time, not only was Hunter Biden under investigation, Joe Biden was under investigation.

What were they investigating Joe for?

They're investigating Joe, number one, because there was a $900,000 payment that was denominated for lobbying Joe Biden, and they didn't know whether it was laundered or not.

They knew that the $14.6 billion Hunter was lobbied.

And there was always a theory of the case that Zloshevsky, the crook, reached out to Joe Biden when Joe Biden became point man for the Ukraine and made a deal with him.

You protect me if they try to take my business away and I'll give your son a no-show job.

And that that was the real bribe.

And there were witnesses to that.

So that he was under investigation to see if that were true.

Rudy, is there is there

Was there anything else beside just greed, in your opinion?

I mean, I have a hard time thinking that all of these people were involved in covering up for Joe Biden and everything else just for greed.

There had to be

more to it to make people feel like they were doing their patriotic duty.

Well, I mean, the Biden thing, the Biden thing sounded strange to me at first when I heard it because I never thought of Joe as a crook until I looked at his history.

Biden's been doing it for years, Glenn.

This is a pattern.

I mean, point man

means he gets named point man in Iraq.

He fails to negotiate a status of forces with the Iraqi government, and his brother James

gets half a part of a $1.5 billion housing program.

He knows nothing about housing.

Makes maybe half a bill, half a billion dollars.

The kid makes somewhere between, I don't even know how much.

They think that Biden's got somewhere between $8 and $20 million.

because they haven't been able to go through all of the laundered transactions yet.

And the United States hasn't cooperated.

And then the one in China becomes a point man.

China becomes a

partner in his private equity firm.

How is it possible that we actually live through the son of the vice president being a partner with the government of China?

And Biden did nothing about it.

And not only that, but is the things he says.

Democrats can do anything.

I know.

They can do anything.

It is,

it's terrifying to me that, you know, we look at Google and say, what are they doing over in China?

Here's Hunter Biden investing in Face Plus with Chinese money and making money off of the rounding up of their citizens and putting them in re-education camps.

I could make a pretty darn good RICO case against the Biden family

where the enterprise, because you have to have an enterprise, is the Biden family.

Their job is to monetize his public office, which they do for big money three times when he's vice president.

You got three other situations when he was a senator for lesser money.

That's more than you have in most RICO cases.

More money than most RICO cases.

And it's been used, and I was the first one to use it, against white-collar crime and political corruption.

So I had Peter Schweiser on, who's done an awful lot of this legwork.

He's great.

And what they've done to him.

Yeah, I know.

And he said something to me that

puts us on the path of Ukraine if something doesn't change.

And I want to go there and talk to you about that in just a second.

Sure.

Rudy Giuliani joins us from our studios in New York City.

More with him in just a second.

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Rudy Giuliani joins us from our New York studios.

He is releasing a podcast episode on Wednesday where he looks into the prosecutor's file and releases a new bombshell document.

And he's talked a little bit about this.

I want to ask you, are we looking into

China as well?

And when I say we, is the Justice Department doing anything on China?

Not that I know of, Glenn.

Now, I wouldn't, you know, I can't, I don't know all their investigations, but I am close to some of the people that would normally be called.

They are not...

as far as I know, looking at China, nor are they looking at Iraq.

And both of those, there's probable cause to believe a crime was committed.

And a crime eerily similar to what was done in Ukraine.

I mean, among other things, as a prosecutor, I'd look into those crimes.

I told you possibility of a RICO case, but also its prior similar acts,

and particularly the Iraq situation.

You know, it's one thing to say, I didn't know my son was involved in this and making all these millions.

But just a few years earlier, you didn't know your brother did the same thing.

Or half a million.

And a few years before that, your other brother did the same thing.

And

you didn't know about the Ponzi scheme that went on in their paradigm company.

And you didn't know about, I might go on with about eight of these.

So here's the thing.

Peter Schweitzer, who's done research for, oh, gosh, a good part of a decade just on the Bidens alone,

I was talking to him last week, I think Friday, and I said, you know, Peter, why won't they investigate this?

And he said, it's because, Glenn,

in his opinion, there are too many Republicans and too many people involved in Congress.

They don't want to open this bag of worms.

They're all dirty

to some extent.

None like the Bidens, but they're still dirty.

Do you believe that's true?

And isn't that what the Justice Department is supposed to do?

I don't know the facts that Peter knows, so you're going to ask me to deal with a hunch.

I have found great reluctance on the part of the Senate to go near this.

It's almost like a

cone of silence.

Like, oh my God.

But, you know,

I thought maybe it was senatorial privilege or...

But, you know, senators don't get to commit

bribes at the highest level of government.

Right.

And vice presidents certainly don't do that.

Agnew didn't get away with it.

Agnew took like $10,000.

This guy took

$14 million.

You can't let him get away with it.

There's also an issue here of national security.

It is true that a corrupt Ukraine is not very useful to us as a bulwark against Russia.

And all these phony Democrats talk about, oh, he didn't want to support Ukraine and Ukraine is a bulwark against Russia, and they've been corrupting it for 11 years.

A corrupt Ukraine is useless.

A solid Ukraine, where when you give them...

One of the things I'm going to reveal, just one small example, is $4 million was given to improve

part of the criminal justice system.

$2 million never got there.

It went to an Italian NGO.

There's a report that's going to be brought out that shows

how their money was diverted so that if we give them $400 million, we're not sure that any more than about $200 million gets to what it's supposed to be used for.

Rudy, I don't think that there is anything that the president could do that is more important

than getting the Justice Department, the Intel, the State Department cleaned up.

Because if If we don't clean this up,

I'm a law and order guy.

I'm red, white, and blue.

I love the FBI FBI and everything.

And even I am stepping back from the FBI and the Justice Department and saying, I don't know.

I don't know if this is clean or dirty or what.

We've got to clean this up or we don't have any trusted institutions.

And this is the only president I think that will do it.

There's a statement on tape of one witness that I interviewed who's an expert on this.

And he says, quote,

President Trump is the first American president to raise this unaccountability of money, this waste of money, this theft of money in Ukraine involving Americans.

We always blamed it just on Ukraine.

Ukraine, you stop your corruption.

Imagine Biden going there and telling them, stop your corruption.

And they all look at him and say, yeah, a good way to stop it is get your kid out of here.

That would stop it.

How about getting rid of the no-show job for millions for your kid?

That might cut down on the corruption, Joe.

So

you can't be a phony and exhort other people to stop being corrupt when you're putting money in your pocket.

Rudy Giuliani, I know you got to run.

Thank you so much.

Please say hello to the president.

Give him our best.

I will.

And we'll talk to you again.

Thank you so much.

Thank you a couple of times.

Rudy Giuliani.

I have to tell you, there is

when you talk to Rudy Giuliani,

there's John Solomon, Peter Schweizer, Rudy Giuliani.

They have the documents.

They know the story.

And when you sit down and talk to them, you know, there's a lot of people that you'll talk to, and they get a little squishy here and there.

There is never any doubt in my mind when it comes to the Ukraine documents and what he knows on this.

The same with all the people that are being discredited.

there's just this sense of, oh, no, no, don't trust me.

No, here,

here's the document.

No, no, go ahead, look for yourself.

Here, I have them on tape.

Here, here's this, this, and this.

There's no one that is debunking this that is doing the same thing.

They're just name-calling, dismissing, smearing, or confusing.

No one's saying, no, you know what?

Let me sit down.

I'll explain it to you.

See,

here's the chart.

Here's how this went.

Nobody's doing that.

You've done so much on this already, and it's certainly possible that I forgot about it.

But did we know that Joe Biden was being investigated directly?

No.

We did not know that.

We just kind of threw that in mid-sentence in the middle of the interview with no.

I think that's one we need to follow up on.

Yeah, I think so too.

Joe Biden is being investigated

by Ukraine.

By Ukraine.

By Ukraine.

For a payment of some sort.

Yeah.

I have not.

For consulting.

Well, look, you got to consult.

Yeah, of course you do.

Of course you do.

You know,

I would find that astounding.

That would show how ballsy he's getting to where he could just say, yeah, just pay me directly.

I mean, I'd like to see the paperwork on that one.

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We're just talking about

Donald Trump, and Rudy and I were talking offline.

And he said, you know, I helped write some of Reagan's speeches, and I was a, you know, a Reagan guy.

And he said, I think Donald Trump is a much better president than I expected.

And he said, I think he's starting to rival Reagan.

And in some ways,

I mean, that always has bothered me, but in some ways, I think he's right.

In the way of Reagan saying, Mr.

Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

Reagan went against the State Department, his advisors, his speech writers, his chief of staff over and over and over and over again.

Before he walked on that podium at the Brandenburg Gate, the Secretary of State looked at him and said, Mr.

President, do not put that line in.

That will cause all kinds of problems.

He's like, I don't know.

It wasn't in the speech.

They removed it against his wishes.

He said it anyway.

And

look what happened.

And I think that in the same way of the bold,

I don't care what you're advising me to do.

You know, one of the things that I've talked about it before, George Bush saying, hey, whoever sits behind this desk, they're going to make the same kind of decisions,

same advice and same advisors.

What Donald Trump has done is shown that that

is Washington wisdom, not necessarily true.

So in other words, for 70, 80 years we've been told, oh, man, you recognize Jerusalem as the capital.

It'll be Armageddon.

Nope, wasn't

you move the embassy, Armageddon?

Nope, wasn't you go after and you hit somebody like Soleimani

and you take him out?

Oh, World War III, nope, wasn't.

If you don't, on the other hand, if you don't react to the Saudi oil fields and you're not tough on that, if you just let them get away with it, nope.

I mean, he's breaking all of of the traditions and some of the things that

are lies and we've known they're lies.

You know, how much, how long do we have to try this State Department,

you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Hey, let's get involved in everybody's business.

How long do we have to do that?

It's been 100 years.

Look what it's brought us.

And

to me, I think that will be his biggest, could be his biggest accomplishment.

I mean, yeah, I think that the Jerusalem thing is a really good example of a Reagan-esque sort of activity, right?

Like, I mean, and Reagan obviously didn't even do that, right?

He didn't do that.

But Trump did.

And despite it being promised by several presidents in a row, I mean,

and they were all advised by the same people.

And Trump just doesn't do it.

He just doesn't care.

Between that and, you know, I hate the way he has done it, but he is such a hammer.

He's not a bull in a China shop.

He is a bull with hammers on taped to each foot who's been airdropped into a China shop.

He breaks everything.

And the way he's done it with the press, I don't think

I'm not sure that the press would have been exposed the way it is now, not because of him, but because he points to them, they hate him so much, they do anything and everything, which is just discrediting them.

They have no credibility left.

And it's not because of him and what he's said about them.

It's about what they say and do about him

that proves him right.

You understand what I'm saying?

So it's not like

it's it's because of who he is that the press has discredited itself.

The press has destroyed itself.

Hey, that's true.

I mean, because they hate him so much.

Abnormally obsessed with him.

I think they've hated all these Republican presidents.

They hated Bush.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't think the difference isn't necessarily level of hate.

It's level of obsession.

They are completely obsessed with everything.

And I think it's completely fair.

And

it's not much of a discussion.

discussion.

It's not much of a

obsession of destroying him.

Yeah.

They got to destroy him.

Exactly.

I mean, they said lots of bad things.

They called George W.

Bush a terrorist.

Think of what kind of accusation that is for the president who's president on September 11th.

That's not a minor thing to say about somebody.

And you know what?

But they could have continued to do that if you have Mr.

Nice Guy.

But this guy has finally said, I don't care about what you call me.

I don't care because I'll call you words.

And that's not, that's the baby way, in my opinion.

That's not the way I want to behave.

But because it is happening,

it's lessened all of the effect.

It has a unique effect.

I mean, it's.

We are in the middle of so many interesting experiments right now.

Oh, my gosh.

First of all, you have Trump, who came out of, you know, from basically from a celebrity businessman sort of world into the presidency.

And you have kind of another experiment that's never before been seen or tried before, which is Bloomberg right now, which is a really fascinating thing to watch if you just care about history and politics.

And can someone spend, I mean, he's spent $400 million on ads already.

That does not include staffing and organization, which he's paying double and triple almost what anyone else is paying.

$30,000 field organizer jobs, he's paying $85,000.

So all of the good ones are going to him, of course, because guess what?

The market actually works.

And

he's pushing himself into a position where he's in second place nationally.

And he is never mistaken.

He's buying the election.

Everything that they say.

I know, I love that because that's what they always say.

I don't.

Look, he's got the money to do it.

Okay.

Who has he?

Name one vote he's purchased.

No, no, no.

He's just flooded the airwaves.

He's doing everything they say they're against.

But again, each person that answers those poll questions has to individually make a decision and has never been paid by Michael Bloomberg.

with the exception of all the field organizers.

I'm just saying,

I'm saying that's what they have always said

about the Republicans.

And they themselves, the Grinch, are carving the roast beast.

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