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Another day of the Senate impeachment trial.

And now, Joe Biden has issued a warning to the press.

Fall in line.

That's a quote.

Fall in line.

Ja, wohl meinführer.

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Joe Biden's presidential campaign has issued a warning to reporters and editors in a memo demanding that they debunk the claims of corruption against him.

The memo, titled The Imperative for Honest Coverage of Trump's Ukraine Conspiracy Theory, deals specifically with the charge that then Vice President Joe Biden, as the Obama administration's point man in Ukraine, pushed for a Ukrainian prosecutor to be fired by threatening to withhold aid to the country.

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

The fired prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, was reportedly removed at the same time he was investigating Barisma, the Ukrainian gas company.

According to the Biden campaign, Trump's impeachment was due in large part to his efforts to spread this theory.

According to the memo, quote, Trump's objective was to pressure the Ukrainian government into spreading a malicious and conclusively debunk conspiracy theory, not true, not

true,

that Vice President Biden engaged in wrong doing when

he executed official United States policy to remove a corrupt prosecutor from office.

Again, this is, that part is true.

He was executing an official policy for the United States, but he knew at the time they were coming after his son.

He knew at the time they were going after Burisma.

There have never been any allegations in Ukraine that Shokin was corrupt.

They've never filed any charges.

They've never told him why he was fired other than the vice president asked for it.

In the memo, they cite numerous mainstream news outlets that agree with Biden's version of the story and that discredit the theory that Biden pushed for the firing of the prosecutor to cover up corruption.

Accordingly, the memo goes on to instruct the media to state clearly and unambiguously that such claims of corruption have been discredited and debunked.

Otherwise, it is journalistic malpractice, according to the Trump, I mean, sorry, according to the Biden campaign.

It is sufficient to say the allegations are uns

I'm sorry, it is not

sufficient to say the allegations are unsubstantiated or that no evidence has emerged to support them.

This is crazy.

Not only is there no evidence for the Republicans' main argument against the vice president, there is a mountain of evidence that actively debunks it, and it is malpractice to ignore the truth.

I'm at a loss.

I feel like I say the same thing every day, but every day it's worse.

I don't even know what to say anymore.

I don't believe this.

Of course I believe this.

It's happening every single day.

It's just getting worse.

I've never seen anything like this.

Yeah, I did yesterday, but this one's worse.

I don't know what to say to you anymore.

I don't know how to come to you with this news anymore.

Despite numerous outlets having reported the claims as false, Republicans and Trump defenders are not so convinced.

In fact, it was Biden himself who added fuel to the theory's flame when he openly bragged on camera.

He said, I'm telling you, you're not going to get the billions of dollars.

You're not getting the billion.

I'm going to be leaving here and think about that in six hours.

I'm leaving in six hours.

If the prosecutor is not fired, then you're not getting the money.

Well, son of a bitch, he laughed.

He got fired.

And they put somebody solid in his place.

Now,

they put somebody solid in his place until this story broke.

When Biden was laughing about that in a Council of Foreign Relations meeting in 2018, 2018, not so long ago,

when he said they put somebody competent in his place, he was competent until he resumed the look into Burisma.

And then this story broke again with Donald Trump.

And as soon as that happened, then this new prosecutor was not somebody to be trusted.

He's corrupt, too.

The way the media, and we have shown it to you, the way the media has debunked this is completely

and total fabrication.

It is at best sloppy work.

This is the, this is, what they are breaking is the,

or, or committing is the, uh, the crime and the sin of omission.

What they're doing is they're saying, look, this was debunked.

New York Times said it.

You go to the New York Times.

New York Times, it's debunked, according to Bloomberg.

Bloomberg, it's debunked, according to the Washington Post.

The Washington Post.

It's debunked, according to this paper in Ukraine.

Well, then we went to that paper in Ukraine.

Everybody else is just quoting each other.

You go to the paper in Ukraine, and it says

that

Shokin,

you know,

said that

he didn't, it wasn't Shokin, it was the other one, that said he didn't say that

to

the

embassy.

Right.

This is the ambassador.

Right.

The whole situation with Ivanovich and how he had a list of do not prosecute,

which initially was the story told by the prosecutor.

And then he said, well, it wasn't a list.

No, no, no.

No.

They asked him.

This is how they did it.

They asked him in this interview.

So she, do you have the paper?

Did she, she gave you, so she handed you a list?

No, no, no.

She didn't hand it to me.

She gave it to me verbally.

Yeah, that was the same thing.

So she told me.

Right.

And so the Post and the Times and everybody else says, he said he was never given a list.

Period.

Debunked.

No, it's not debunked.

He said, she didn't hand me a list.

She gave it to me and I wrote it down.

Yeah, and he brought, when he was talking about names that he wanted, thought was, you know, worthy of prosecution or looking into it, she beat him up on it.

Right.

And, you know, w is that different than set than giving him a list of people not to prosecute?

She was telling him he shouldn't prosecute those people.

And he was saying, this has been the problem in Ukraine forever.

Right.

This has been the issue.

This is what you guys are supposed to help us stop doing.

Correct.

We're not supposed to be going after these or protecting certain politically connected people.

We're supposed to be doing the opposite, going after the truth.

Shokin and his prosecutor that replaced him are now on record saying, We don't know how to fight corruption the American way

because it's not a system.

It's you can do this, you can't do this.

Next day, it's yeah, well, we're including this person that you can prosecute, and this one you got to stay away from.

There's no rhyme or reason other than power and money.

Now, when it comes to this particular thing where Joe Biden asked for the firing of Shokin because he was dirty, his claim is: I didn't know anything at all, nothing at all about the Burisma

investigation.

I didn't know that.

There's no way for me to know that.

They weren't investigating at the time.

That is provably false.

We have the court records that happened, oh,

coincidentally, within days before the vice president's visit.

The State Department was notified that Joe Biden's son was going to be under investigation.

That's when daddy gets on the plane.

No one in the State Department, no one in the embassy, no one on the vice presidential staff or president's staff was briefed that the vice president's son and his company was going under investigation by the prosecutor, the one that we helped appoint.

Nobody notified the vice president of that.

And then he just coincidentally said, we're not doing any aid if you go into any of this on barisma.

That is fact, verifiable fact, with documents.

It is not malpractice.

It is treasonous to the truth.

You either want to tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may or you are nothing but a puppet

Look

I think I my record is pretty darn clear if Donald Trump would have been doing these things and you could prove it and I would do the investigation I said to our researchers dig at the very beginning dig let the chips fall where they may find the truth I would come to you and tell you, I'm sorry.

And if it would mean the end of my business, I don't give a flying crap.

I don't know how to tell you these things anymore.

I'd gladly go away.

I'd tell you the truth.

If Donald Trump was doing that, I'd tell it to you.

This is corruption at the highest levels of the Obama administration.

And what Schiff said yesterday,

well, I've never seen anything like it.

Oh, yeah, no, I did.

I just saw the memo from Joe Biden, which is exactly the same thing.

Schiff, under oath,

as an impeachment manager,

told whoppers of lies yesterday, but he walked into a trap.

He started talking about

this.

Oh, well, you, I mean, this, this conspiracy.

Well, now, wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

If you're talking about this conspiracy, then we should talk to people to make sure that it is a conspiracy.

You're right.

If it's a conspiracy, there are facts out there that show that it's not.

In fact, every fact shows that it's not.

So you want to bring that up with Hunter Biden?

Thank you, Mr.

Schiff.

You just introduced that as a line we can pursue.

Now, you must hear from the president's son, a vice president's son.

You must hear from him.

And why is it they have to have such Nazi-like marching orders to fall in line, press?

Why do you feel that's necessary to do if you have nothing to hide?

Let him talk.

Let him talk.

When Trump would go off on, you know, not born here,

I was like, don't, please, can somebody, because that's not helping him.

That's not helping him.

Okay.

But when he's right about, yeah, the birth of thing.

But when he's right about something, let him talk.

When you have truth on your side, let him talk.

You don't, Joe Biden, have truth on your side.

So you must silence people.

You must silence people.

Yeah, chasing the truth no matter where it goes is something that opinion people should do, that journalists should should definitely do.

And you know what?

It's what all humans are supposed to do.

That's how you're supposed to interact with people.

It's not supposed to be the way that Adam Schiff is.

It's just like his human interaction policies need to be revised.

A lot.

A lot.

A lot.

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It's been fun, hasn't it?

It's been a great trial so far.

Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah.

I think Adam Schiff is a little bit more.

Oh, he's

taking his part.

Oh, my God.

The visibility that he has.

It's unbelievable.

Oh,

it's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah, it is unbelievable.

I wish I was surprised by that, but I'm not.

Has there been a bigger pinhead than Adam Schiff ever in the history of this country?

I would not describe this.

I dislike this guy with all the intensity of a billion white-hot burning suns.

No, I don't hate him.

Right.

I just dislike him with that kind of intensity.

Yeah.

But wow, he's.

I thought Harry Reid was bad.

This guy might be even worse.

This guy might be more.

This guy is.

Yeah, this guy

is

just.

You won't say you hate him, but you'll call him evil?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

I just want to make sure I understand the standards here.

This guy is.

This guy is just.

Well, they all are.

Let's go back to Joe Biden in this memo.

Imagine if Donald Trump sent a memo to Fox News and said, fall in line.

Oh, good gosh.

First of all, they wouldn't.

They wouldn't.

Because people would start to quit.

If a president would have said, fall in line to Fox and Fox would have come to me, I would have quit.

And I think Brett Baer would.

I think there's a lot of people that would.

Yeah, I think Chris Wallace.

Just on principle.

There might be some people who have already fallen in line that would further fall in line, but I think the vast majority of them over there would not have a real problem with it.

The press is embracing

Biden with a memo that says, fall in line.

None of this is true about my son.

None of this is true about Barisma.

None of this is true.

And there's no facts behind it.

There are tons.

People went to jail.

There was a court conviction on this stuff.

There's mountains of evidence.

What do you mean there's no proof?

Yeah, I mean, like, you can say you don't agree with the conviction because you think it may have been politically motivated, or you can say, you know, this stuff happens in political prosecutions, happen in Ukraine all the time.

And so you can bring up problems with it.

However, you certainly can't say there's no evidence, right?

When there's a court conviction on

infiltrating and trying to manipulate the U.S.

election.

And beyond that, part of the evidence that brought that conviction to play was an audio tape.

To say that there's no evidence when an audio tape of a recording between the people we're talking about actually exists.

And we've played it multiple times.

How you can say there's no evidence?

That's not just fudging the truth.

That's not spin.

That's not manipulation.

That's not dishonesty.

That is a straight lie.

You're lying to the American people to cover for somebody.

They don't care because they get away with it because the mainstream media doesn't cover it or talk about it.

Because they fall in line.

Yeah, they fall in line.

And that's one of the things, by the way, I was thinking about this yesterday.

They keep bringing up this point over and over again with the impeachment.

The shift made this point a thousand times yesterday that they weren't going after this announcement of the investigation.

into Burisma and Joe Biden, right?

That's what the whole point of this was.

They wanted to get this announcement from Zelensky that they were looking into Biden and they were looking into Burisma and Hunter Biden and all the corruption there, right?

They didn't even care if they were actually going to do the investigation.

They just wanted the announcement of the investigation.

Stop and think about how ridiculous this point is for a second.

It just hit me yesterday for some reason.

You're trying to claim that Donald Trump did all these things, going and searching out all of these foreign leaders,

sending people all over the world, all of the things that

he's been accused of here, to get an announcement from a Ukrainian official that an investigation was underway.

Now, remember, it's your argument that they're not going to do the investigation.

So they're never going to find any DERT because they're not doing the investigation.

You only want the announcement because that's their argument.

They're saying there was never going to be an investigation.

So the idea that he was going after Dirt can't possibly be true because he didn't want the investigation to occur anyway.

So all he wants is the announcement of an investigation.

And you're trying to convince me that all of this effort was put in because Donald Trump thought he was going to get all of this

political benefit in the United States from a random announcement from Ukraine.

They wouldn't have even covered it if he made the announcement.

They wouldn't have looked at it for five seconds.

Nope.

They wouldn't have even acknowledged the announcement was made.

Exactly right.

He would have had no mileage out of this this announcement anyway now maybe you're making the argument that donald trump is just so dumb that he wouldn't understand that because i because he thinks he gets lots of fair treatment on the announcements he deserves i mean it doesn't make any sense why would he put all of this effort into something he didn't believe was there

because it really didn't

may i summarize adam shiff's argument yesterday because it didn't have anything to do with that it had everything to do with the 2020 election.

And

you must remove Trump from office because of the integrity of the 2020 election.

We can't assure it right now.

In fact, I have to tell you something.

I'm quoting Shiv.

We were fighting Russia in Ukraine, so we didn't have to fight Russia here.

That's a quote from him.

And the president's misconduct can't be decided at the ballot ballot box because we can't be assured that the 2020 vote will be fairly won.

How dangerous is this?

Oh, my gosh.

This is

so possible.

How un-American is this?

How can it be about the 2020 election, though, when

what we're talking about is an announcement from Ukraine?

It makes no sense.

We had our own government release reports that the Obama administration was investigating right-wing Tea Party groups through the IRS, and they didn't bother covering that.

Why would they care what Ukraine is saying?

People can't even name the countries in the region.

Nobody would care what Zelensky said.

That is red herring.

Sure, that's what we made this whole thing into at first.

But now that we're in the Senate, we know the real truth.

Adam Schiff cannot guarantee that there won't be a ground invasion by Russia

if he's not impeached.

The delay of this aid.

Into the United States or Ukraine?

United States ground invasion.

Well, it'll start in Ukraine.

Yeah, and then spread it right here.

And I can see that.

Trump is working with them.

We think, we think, we're pretty sure.

Well, he's a Russian asset.

Yeah, he's a Russian asset.

Why?

I mean, this is

crazy.

And so dangerous.

So irresponsible.

Oh, my God.

So irresponsible.

They keep trying to bring it back to the national security thing, too, that Ukraine was in trouble because.

Like, they care.

They don't give a rat's daughter.

They didn't give them any aid when they none.

were

an actual.

They did give them blankets, though.

They were concerned about how warm they were.

Well, they needed to give them blankets because they learned that.

You know, the Democrats are very, they're one with the Native American.

And so they sent them blankets so they could do smoke signals, S-O-S, S-O-S, in case it got really bad.

It's amazing.

Like, the argument that holding this aid back was going to put Ukraine in danger after we withheld all of these javelin missiles and other associated military

during a hot war.

During a hot war, we were like, ah, we're going to let them do whatever they want there.

Have a blanket.

Here's a blanket.

And now Trump gives them these things, but he's the one who is who is putting their security at risk.

And of course, in inherently putting our security at risk.

It's so insane.

This is why every day

I sit here and I mean, look at the news that I went through today and I highlighted everything.

And every day I look at this and I begin the show and I think to myself, I don't know what to say to you.

I know.

I don't know what to say to you anymore.

Yeah.

Because

it's all so clear.

You know, there are only 11 million people watching this now.

And they're celebrating.

They're all saying, record ratings.

11

million people.

Spread over six networks.

That's right.

So nobody's getting

ratings.

ABC, NBC, CBS, they're not carrying it at night.

Nobody's paying attention to this.

So you can state any lie and dump it out into the system.

And it becomes true.

You know, I saw the latest poll that it's like 45%

want him impeached, 40% don't want him impeached.

And 15% say they don't have enough information to make a decision.

15%?

I'll bet you that number is closer to 90%.

Yeah.

But people just want to make their mind.

I didn't make a mind on Donald Trump, you know, two years ago.

Yeah, it's done.

Listen to this.

Tell me, because even if you don't think Trump was the great,

the call wasn't perfect, right?

It wasn't a perfect call.

I'm going to go out on a limb.

That was not a perfect call.

I think when it results this way, it's not a perfect call.

It's not a perfect call.

But listen to this.

Even if you think Trump didn't do a great job on this, listen to the, how can you disagree with this argument?

This is from Rich Lowry.

The underlying question is whether the U.S.

Senate will impose the most severe sanction it has ever inflicted on any chief executive, voting to convict and remove a president for the first time in the history of the country and doing it about 10 months from his re-election bid.

This is a truly radical step that, if it ever came about, would surely do more damage to the legitimacy of our political system than President Donald Trump's underlying offense.

That's for sure.

That is an airtight argument.

A banana republic.

We become a banana republic.

Look,

let's say Joe Biden gets in.

Do you really think if you've removed this president, there isn't a great desire to remove Joe Biden for anything at all?

You don't think that there would be people,

you know, that are Republicans and conservatives that go, you know, I think he's kind of losing it.

What was that amendment again about, you know, a president not having the faculties?

I mean, I think we should

the second Republicans got control, they would probably do the same thing.

And you know what?

You know who predicted this very long ago was Chuck Schumer.

We played the audio of it the other day, where Chuck Schumer says this is eventually going to be used against Republicans, or by

Democrats, against Republicans.

And he's, of course, just mapping out his own future in 1998 and 99.

He's just saying what I'm going to be doing in 20 years.

And, you know, usually when you ask people, where are you going to be in 20 years, you're wrong.

Well, he was right.

He actually predicted it.

Good work, Chuck.

And that is what's really amazing about that.

Is that the first time he's been right

in maybe 20 years?

And maybe the only time.

The only time.

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Coming up in just a couple of minutes, I'm going to tell you why

Sanders won't won't win in Iowa, I think,

and why,

really in the end, Sanders and Warren, and I think even Pete Buttajudge will not be the nominee.

If,

you know,

what's his name?

Joe Biden doesn't fall apart, which is a very big if, a very big if.

I will tell you why everyone's looking the other way as Democrats, why they're looking the other way on his corruption, why they're looking the other way

on

his age.

I mean, I'm not trying to be mean or anything else, but he's not Joe Biden 2016 or 2012.

He's just not.

And it is beginning to show.

He's still great for, what, 78 or 80 years old.

He's still good for an 80-year-old man, but he's an 80-year-old man.

Now, Donald Trump is old, but he doesn't seem it.

He acts and has the vim and vigor of

a 50, 55, 60-year-old man.

Biden had that a few years ago, but he doesn't now.

And I don't know what it is, his age, or he just doesn't have the desire to do it.

He's been kicked around enough.

I don't know what it is, but they're pushing this aside, and no one's willing to actually say this because they're so desperate for something else.

And I will tell you what that something else is.

There are three categories

that

I would put Democrats in.

And the third category is the Forgotten Man, the one that no one is talking to.

And I think it's the largest group.

So

we will

go through that here in just a second.

Mitt Romney.

Here's audio from Mitt Romney yesterday

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Listen to this.

I think the Democrats make a mistake when they cry outrage time and time again.

If everything is an outrage, then nothing is an outrage.

So the big issue, I think, relates to witnesses, and the discussion of witnesses and the vote on witnesses that counts is going to be after opening arguments.

My guess is today they're going to have lots of motions on witnesses.

We've all told them.

We're not going to deal with that now.

We're going to deal with that after opening arguments, just like during the Clinton process.

You're going to vote against all the amendments today?

I will.

Well, I haven't seen all the amendments, but if they bring up witness amendments, for instance, I'm going to say no.

I've already indicated I am interested to hear from John Bolton, perhaps among others.

Okay.

But Schiff says we can't wait that long.

Here is video of Trump's fate, according to Adam Schiff.

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Instead, we are here today to consider a much more grave matter,

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Okay, so I heard bribery, I heard collusion, I've heard all of these.

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It has very little to do with Joe Biden and everything to do with the forgotten Democrat.

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And then I want to tell you the three reasons why Donald Trump is going to be re-elected.

Now, this is speaking of today.

Anything could happen.

We could have an economic collapse.

We could have, you know, war breakout.

Lots of things could happen.

But lots of things could happen on the Democratic side as well, especially if Joe Biden

is your horse.

That thing could fall apart.

I mean, he's not looking

the best

and hasn't been performing well in debates.

Okay, well.

Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or Pete Buttigiege.

Let me tell you why these people will not win.

There are three groups of Democrats.

And

really, when you come down to it, there is only one group that is a traditional Democrat.

First, you have the socialist revolutionaries.

These are the people that have always been on the outside.

They have not had a party.

They're communist, socialist, revolutionaries.

They are people like Bernie Sanders that have never really had a home.

Now, those socialist revolutionaries were brought into the party beginning back in the 1980s when they decided they really needed a coalition.

They started bringing them in, but they were always kept at arm's length.

Back in the early 2000s, they started bringing these real revolutionaries in to fight against George W.

Bush.

The people that did not necessarily vote for Democrats ever,

but they were communists.

They were socialists.

They were literal revolutionaries.

People like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.

These people were always on the fringe of society or just under the radar.

But then they were embraced to fight George W.

Bush.

And I warned at the time, you think you're using them?

They've been waiting for this moment.

They, in the end, are going to destroy you.

And they'll destroy you before they destroy the Demo or the Republican Party.

So there's your first group of voters.

They want

radical change and nothing American.

They do not want the Constitution.

They don't want the guaranteed protections.

They want not equal justice.

They want social justice.

They want redistribution of wealth.

All of the stuff that Barack Obama was

accused of because of the people he surrounded himself with and said, no, no, no, that's crazy talk.

Well, it's not because here they are.

The second group is

the new,

if you will, progressive liberal corrupt establishment.

These were the people that started really kind of, you know, with FDR.

They bastardized the word liberal, but they were still kind of holding on to things like the ACLU and saying, no, we're for freedom of speech, but really they weren't.

But it was close enough to where most people didn't understand,

and nobody wanted to believe that all of these politicians were as corrupt as they were.

Now we know these politicians are absolutely corrupt.

And I'm not just saying the Democrats, Republicans are too.

Just corrupt.

And they're not in it for anybody but them and their family, apparently.

And they can get rich a million different ways, and they do not want their power to end.

But they're progressive liberals, and they don't want to really upset the apple cart.

They'd like enough of a revolution to where it's not so hard trying to keep elect, you know, keep electing the same people over and over again.

They'd like that to happen.

And then there's the third category.

And I think this is the majority of Americans.

And the majority of Democrats.

They're the forgotten Democrat.

They're the ones that are looking for,

dare I say it, hope

and change.

The reason why Barack Obama's hope and change worked

is because almost everyone was looking for hope and change.

I was looking for hope and change.

I was tired of the Bush administration.

I was tired of the backroom deals.

I was tired of being lied to.

I was tired of the never-ending wars.

I was tired of the out-of-control spending.

I was tired of being talked down to and called, you know, not being a patriot if you weren't for the Patriot Act.

I wanted hope and change too.

But when Barack Obama offered it, a lot of people just heard that and they thought, yeah, he's saying what I believe.

That's why I've always said you have to really understand who you're standing next to, who you're supporting, because they might say all the right things.

Barack Obama capitalized on hope and change, but his hope and change required fundamental transformation of the United States of America.

Now there's a difference between revolution and restoration.

I want a restoration of what was right with America while getting rid of those things that are wrong with America.

Corruption,

the out-of-control spending where no one is held responsible for anything.

I want a fair justice system.

I want

truth,

justice, and the American way.

And I think there's plenty of Democrats all across this country that are hardworking people that feel the same way.

They're tired of getting the shaft.

They're tired of being told that they're the problem.

They're tired of being told that,

you know, they'll never make it.

When they know, when they're talking to their friends in the coffee shop,

we could fix this.

Guys, we could fix this.

You know what the problem is.

They really believe they can fix it because they can fix it in their own town, in their own life.

So, what they're looking for

is somebody that's not insane,

somebody that doesn't want the fundamental transformation of America, and somebody that's an outsider.

They're looking for Donald Trump, which is why 18% of those who voted for Donald Trump were Democrats.

They're looking for someone who just, you know, who Donald Trump is.

Is there any question in your mind?

You know, you know, yesterday I saw the news report.

Donald Trump broke his record for tweets yesterday.

My response was,

really?

Of course he did.

We know who he is.

Imperfections at all, we know who he is.

And you're willing to accept that

because, as insane as he might seem, or insane as

his actions might seem to people,

his actions

on the world stage,

what he's actually done, not what he said, what he's actually done,

not insane.

What he's actually done with the economy,

it's working.

Seems to be going really well.

Imagine what it would be if he took those insane trade tariffs away.

But you know what?

It's okay right now.

What he did with Iran?

That was insane.

No, it wasn't.

Seemed to have worked.

Seemed to have worked, at least temporarily.

But they're always going to be a problem.

People are looking for somebody not to not

look nuts.

They don't care.

They knew Donald Trump looked nuts.

They knew he looked like he wasn't presidential.

I said that in 2007.

If Barack Obama gets into office, he is so slick.

We're going to have a guy who has a gravy stain on his tie and stands up and maybe farts during his speech.

He's like,

we'll fart, huh?

That's who we have.

That's who we have.

And And everybody looks at the outside packaging of Donald Trump, the over-the-top, everything is perfect Donald Trump.

And they know,

I don't know how he does it, but he does it.

Now, if his administration was putting together the insanity

of an agenda that was as insane as his tweets and everything else,

he would be gone.

He would at least not be

re-elected.

But it's not.

That's the packaging.

The substance is different than the packaging.

And people know that because they feel safe.

They feel like, you know, there's encroachments on things, but we're okay.

At least the president's not crazy in listening to, you know, crazy people on either side.

And he's doing things that we all wanted to do.

I mean, what did Democrats want?

They wanted an end to these endless wars.

What did many Republicans want in 2008?

An end to these endless wars.

We don't want to be lied to.

We don't want people undercover doing things

where they're enriching themselves or they're getting us entangled into foreign affairs without even talking to us about it.

we just want to be left alone and be able to do our work.

And we still also want to be charitable.

So, when they look, when the Democrats look at Bernie Sanders, there's always going to be, I mean, it should be about 10%.

But I think we're up to maybe 20 or 30% of this population that is now willing on the Democratic side to go to war.

I'll have a revolution.

I think it's around 10%, but it could be as high as 30%.

30.

Warren doesn't have

the same effect on the voter as Bernie Sanders does, but she also doesn't have ⁇ she has more of the corrupt establishment air

that hurts her.

And he has more of the, yeah, Soviet gulags were great air to keep his numbers suppressed.

But the vast majority of people are not looking for the corrupt establishment.

They're not looking for the

rebel and revolutionary on any issue anymore.

They've been revolutionized enough for a while.

Can we just sit down and relax for a minute?

They're looking for somebody that has hope and change.

Joe Biden doesn't have that.

He doesn't have that.

But Joe Biden,

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He doesn't want to overturn all of American history and fundamentally transform things.

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And

this is what

is hurting the Democratic Party.

And the first one was done by Biden.

And if Biden wants to win, which I'm not sure, if Biden wants to win, he should stop saying things like this.

Yesterday in Iowa, he said that if ICE agents, if they deport illegal aliens aliens for criminal offenses that aren't felonies,

and he says drunk driving doesn't count as a felony, then he's going to fire that ICE agent.

What?

What?

First of all, in most states, if you get a felony for drunk driving, it's not the first time.

You get a felony for drunk driving, it's because you've been stopped several times or you have been really reckless and either hurt somebody or almost really hurt somebody.

That's the only way you get a felony, and that's what all Americans get.

What are you talking about?

So, a special rule, and he says, I know, we're not even going to, I say, as an agency, if they try to evict somebody who is not a felon in this country, and he emphasized that twice, in this country.

So, in other words, they could be a felon in their last country, but he won't deport them.

That is not something that the average person wants,

whether they say that out loud or not.

And when you put people like this and policies like this coupled right next to people like Elon Omar, last night I did a special on Elon Omar.

While she has been denouncing the Jews and President Trump, she's not paying attention to Minneapolis.

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has surged in Minneapolis since she's been around

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up 46%.

Okay, well, maybe that's not her.

Maybe that's just the, maybe that's just the Attorney General.

Oh, that could very well be Keith Ellison.

But let me give you some FBI statistics.

In her district, it has become the terrorist recruitment capital of the U.S.

More people in Elon Omar's district have either joined or attempted to join terrorist organizations more there than any other place in the entire country.

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None of that is true.

And when people are weighing who they're going to vote for, they don't want to vote for people who are in bed with that kind of a radical.

when you have when you have in north carolina

the bladen county board of elections

saying that they are not going to uh

uh stand for the pledge of allegiance

that's

there's a difference between saying you know i don't like all this jingoistic stuff and people now who are openly declaring this country and this flag is racist that's not where the average person lives

that's not where the average democrat lives when you hear the extremists say climate change through predatory capitalism is going to end the world in 10 to 12 years.

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So, one of the reasons why Bernie Sanders is doing well

is because he does have a lot of the Donald Trump attitude.

He doesn't care.

He doesn't care.

He's not buttoned up.

He looks like the seagull from Little Mermaid.

He's angry and

nasty to people.

Did you see the Tom Stire thing where he was on video and Tom Steyer came over to talk to him?

Bernie just shoved him away.

Oh, yeah.

Like, get away from me.

He is, but that's one thing that Americans want.

Is Bernie Sanders more sane than Donald Trump?

Not even.

Not even.

Oh, God, no.

Yeah.

Not even.

He's just different

in

his personality traits.

But he's just as...

And it's a remix of sort of the same brand in some ways.

It is.

You know, Bernie's much more ideological than Trump, right?

Like, I mean, he's just

hurt socialist, yeah.

That's what hurts him.

People don't want the so I'm saying the average American do not want the socialism from Bernie Sanders, but they are attracted to this guy who's like, let me just tell you like it is.

Yes.

I hate that guy.

He's got a funny-looking nose.

That's...

Bernie Sanders, and that's Donald Trump.

That was Ron Paul in some ways, too.

They didn't necessarily love his libertarian ideology.

You see that, obviously, I mean, look at the state of our politics.

There's literally zero parties or politicians arguing for spending less right now.

No one cares about it at all.

On the other hand, though, Ron Paul was dedicated to something.

He seemingly really believed it, and he kind of just blurted stuff out.

And he looked like this kind of old, old coot that would just be out there just screaming at people.

And like, I don't care.

I'm going to stand up and I don't care what you think about me.

There's something very American about that and something that people do love.

I think they like that no matter what the ideology behind it is.

But let's just ask yourself, if you're a Democrat,

I think that you are the forgotten Democrat.

If you are working right now, transcribing this show for George Soros and Media Matters, well, you're not the forgotten

Democrat.

You are the

socialist Democrat or the Democratic socialist that is pushing for revolution.

But let me talk to the average Democrat all across the country.

With all the things that are going on in your city, how would you feel if your city spent $300,000 to stop Chick-fil-A from being at your regional airport?

I wanted them to spend $1 to do that.

No, you should just let them come in and do their thing.

It's a sandwich and it's a yummy sandwich.

It's not like it's, you know, it's not like you bite into it and you're like, hmm, you know, not only is this a good sandwich, but

gosh darn it, Jesus saves.

It's not happening.

Sometimes it is a religious experience, I've heard.

But it's not.

What are you doing?

Right.

What are you doing?

$300,000?

This is San Antonio spending $300,000 in Texas to stop Chick-fil-A from being at an air

airport.

Who cares?

Yeah, it's funny.

The people, they don't want Chick-fil-A serving its sandwiches at an airport because that violates that whole thing.

But, I mean, do you think they actually care about if you try to make immigration restrictions from war-torn nations from flying into their airport, the same people would be out there saying, you can't stop Syrians?

Assad wants to land in San Antonio.

He lands in San Antonio.

How would you feel if you found out your city was going to spend $300,000 to make sure that CNN wasn't in the lounge on television

at your airport?

Right.

I mean, do I want CNN in the lounge?

Probably not.

Do I want to

get it at all?

No.

I walk by and I don't watch it.

Right.

And you laugh at it.

If you think Chick-fil-A sandwiches turn you into someone who doesn't like gay people, then you cannot go there.

Right.

Because I know that's a big risk.

If your feelings are so strong on the subject that you think a nugget might change them, then yes, okay.

You know, just don't eat a Chick-fil-A.

You can handle it.

So let me ask you after that, Democrats, you want more of that or less of that?

You want somebody telling everybody and spending your money

to force people to be woke?

Are voters not answering that question, though, right now?

They are.

And they're saying, no, we don't want that.

Like, you know, why is Joe Biden, who is objectively a terrible presidential candidate?

The man can't get through three consecutive sentences without, you know, his car engine stalling.

He just stops mid-word, and then he has to crank the engine.

He goes out in the front of the car with an old-timey crank and cranks the engine back up to get through the rest of the sentence.

That's what Joe Biden does.

He's an objectively terrible presidential candidate.

However, for some reason, he continues to lead this field, and it's because all of these other people, let me give you some.

Kamala Harris, Bill de Blasio, Kirsten Gillibrand,

Jay Inslee,

let's see, Corey Booker, Eric Swalwell, Bob Frank O'Rourke.

These people.

Frank O'Rourke.

These people.

I forgot about that.

I know.

He's already forgotten completely.

Gosh.

These people all walked in there and said to voters, we swear we're more woke slash socialist than everyone else in this field.

They've been faced into the woke primary.

In fact, I want to apologize that I'm I'm a white man.

Yeah.

I mean, Kirsten Gillibrand said that.

She's like, I am up here telling you, I want to explain to you, I'm going to femme splain to you why I, as a white woman, have white privilege.

Now, that is, Tom Steyers on stage saying, you know what?

I'm a billionaire.

You know who sucks billionaires?

Just all nonsense, right?

So all of these people, with the exception of two, have been burned by this whole woke primary idea.

And the only two people people who haven't been burned by it are Warren and Sanders.

And it's because for them, it's authentic, right?

Like they're authentically socialists.

I think it's true.

Yes, they're authentic.

They're in lies about being more moderate because she doesn't want to quite be Bernie.

Yes.

But they're both the same.

They're both socialists.

They're both the most woke you can possibly be.

And so they've been able to capture that wing of the Democratic Party.

Everyone else has been burned by this approach.

And people like Andrew Yang, who have gone the other direction and just tried to be normal, keep hanging around and raising tons of money.

Okay, so that is, that goes to, that goes to the main point going back to the regular Democrat.

Do you know of a regular Democrat that is not all tied up into politics, that is a guy, white guy, owns a company, successful, built it himself, blah, blah, blah, that is ashamed of being white?

No.

Now, is there something to be said on, you know, we have a lot of privilege, not just as white people, but all Americans.

We have a lot of privilege, and we should walk around a little more humbly, and we should, yes.

And that's why I go to church, because I get that message at church.

But to whip ourselves because, oh my gosh, I was born into privilege is ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

And everybody knows it.

And

it's

an anti-Christ message.

The woke atmosphere is an anti-Christ message, not meaning that it came from the Antichrist, but it is the opposite of Christ.

There's no forgiveness.

There's no humility.

In fact, if you're woke, you can and should pound your chest.

I'm the most woke person here.

Who wants to go to that church?

Who wants to go to the church where the priest is like, I'm really the only woke person here?

The candidates and the media want that.

The voters, even on the Democratic side, don't want it.

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Can you do that still?

I thought constitutionally, no, you couldn't create a new state out of a state, right?

Unless you have the approval of the state legislature.

Right.

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without that approval, which is one of the kind of crazy left-wing legal theories going around.

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out of Washington, D.C., you get 150 liberal states that will approve all of your amendments, and then you can amend the Constitution at will.

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could change the laws in the Constitution.

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Now, a year ago, the media mangled the Covington Catholic story, but what happened next was even worse.

Welcome, Robbie.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

So make this case.

It's fascinating.

Sure.

So it's a year later, and I was looking back at the story, what people said, how it kind of all happened.

This is obviously a big story for me.

I was one of the first to kind of see the full footage and kind of try to reverse this narrative that had taken hold.

Anyway, what struck me is that, you know,

so the mainstream media has attracted a lot of well-deserved criticism for reporting this story and getting it wrong.

Outlets like Washington Post, CNN, et cetera, that have subsequently been sued by Nicholas Sandman, et cetera.

But what I was struck by looking back on this again is those outlets

certainly certainly deserve blame.

They got it wrong, but

they did reverse course when it was called out.

There were so many more ideological writers, pundits, etc.,

who not only did not apologize, they continue to defiantly

insist, and probably do to this day, that the initial media coverage was correct.

There were people who went looking for facts that had nothing to do with all of this.

You know, oh, well, years ago at a Covington basketball game, is this someone in blackface?

And if it wasn't, but even if it was, it would have had nothing to do with whether Nicholas Zandman had harassed this Native American man.

So I was more, I almost feel like we've forgotten that side of it a little bit in the focus on how irresponsible the kind of more mainstream coverage was.

So first of all, let's talk about the mainstream coverage for just a second and what's happening to them.

Any idea, any guess what CNN settled for?

I have asked people there.

I've tried to find out this information.

No one knows.

My just wild guess would be like two or three million dollars.

It would surprise me if they paid more than five.

Wow.

That's what Stu says.

I would be surprised if it was not in double digits.

Or, I mean, in

eight digits.

I just.

Well, I just, my frame of reference here is Rolling Stone, the lawsuits from the University of Virginia gang rape that

years ago.

Right.

And honestly, that was a stronger case because Rolling Stone's wrongdoing was actually more egregious.

And they, you know, that was a couple million dollar payments.

Yeah.

We should point out, Robbie, was also one of the guys leading that truth-telling ability there.

Because, I mean, without you, Robbie, I don't know we would have ever had the truth on either one of these two stories.

So thank you for doing that.

That was was

important work.

Oh, thank you.

You know, it was my pleasure to really get to the truth of these things.

And I don't, you know, I'm not, it wasn't like I was so ideologically invested in these, either of these stories.

I just sat down to write something, and then you start looking at the other information available.

And both times I started thinking, oh, wow, there's a lot more to this that people haven't really picked up on yet.

So, Robbie, I mean, just look at, let's just look at today,

where Joe Biden came out and issued a memo yesterday to the news media that said, fall in line.

It's worse than journalistic malpractice if you say that there's anything at all to these conspiracy theories on any wrongdoing by me or my son in Ukraine.

And they're taking it.

They're taking it.

The media is not outraged by that.

How do we even have hope for the truth with a media like this?

I mean, that's the problem, right?

The problem is we have divided, I think, into two tribes quite neatly.

There's Trump tribe and there's media tribe.

And so the media are not,

the illusion, I think to some degree this always was an illusion, right?

That they're objective gatekeepers and just kind of

calling it like they see it and they're not taking sides and they're fair and down the middle.

That is over.

And to some degree, they're not even claiming that or

not as strongly even claiming that.

They're in the opposition camp.

And so all things that happened, all developments, all stories, news,

must be segmented, must be put in either

how does this help Trump if you're a pro-Trump person or

how does this help and defend the media?

The media is the opposition party.

So that's not surprising to see candidates.

who represent the media party explicitly calling for them to

kind of serve on the front lines of a war on Trump because that is the role they are suggesting that they are going to play.

Not everyone, not all of them, but a lot more than it used to be.

So 2024, I think, is when historically the pendulum should start shifting back

towards some sanity.

Do you see an appetite at all for

the truth where the chips fall?

I mean, I don't, I present, I try to present the truth, but I am also an opinion guy.

I'm not news.

I don't know of

anybody

who is

who is huge mainstream that would even consider taking on, no, let the chips fall where they may.

Who's doing that?

I mean,

that's a problem, right?

The kind of

I think scaring people sells or worrying people that

a lot of this is even non-ideological.

Just things are worse than ever.

And then there's an ideological component, right?

That we live in in like a more racist and more sexist and more homophobic, et cetera, et cetera, society.

So then of course when something like Covington happens, that confirms your thinking because you're looking for it because you're thinking this is the worst of all times and we've degraded as a society, et cetera.

You know, I see all the time, again, I look like CNN, Washington Post, reporting things like hate crimes are higher than ever.

But if you actually dig into the statistics, I really have,

they don't even begin to prove that that's true.

And it actually seems quite ridiculous if you think of how far we've come as a country on many of these fronts.

But they're scaring you with these headlines all the time to worry you into thinking the world is such a bad place.

But I remember I had, and Stu, see if you remember this, I think it was the editor of the San Francisco Examiner, very left.

And I had him on the show because he said Glenn Beck is a journalist, blah, blah, blah.

And

in some way, in a weird way, he was kind of almost endorsing that, you know, journalistic credibility.

And I had him on the air and I said, I'm an opinion maker.

I try to take the facts and do my own homework, but then what I present is an opinion.

He said, that's a journalist.

And I said, no, that's not a journalist.

And there was this weird conversation where I had a journalist trying to convince me that I was a journalist and I am not.

But now,

you know,

you just said it.

There is no difference between

the truth that you get from CNN.

Well, let me use this.

Brian Stelter last week just had on reliable sources, media matters.

Hello?

So these people who cut, yeah, they cut video clips and of people saying things and they make it look like it's really bad.

And then

I've learned now I have to go back and watch the full clip.

Right.

Maybe you're missing a very important segment of

what whoever it is just said.

You know, it kind of goes to question your article because you said, you know, the other media was even worse.

Are they separate anymore?

Is there an opinion media and CNN?

Are they different?

I think social media

has eroded this distinction because you have people

who are supposedly straight news, objective reporters who don't have opinions.

And of course, everyone has opinions.

So this was almost always a little silly.

But then you can see what they're saying on Twitter.

You're getting their knee-jerk, unedited reactions to news, to things like Covington or whatever, or like just Jussie Smollett.

And

they're falling over themselves about how horrible this is and smearing anyone who even is slightly skeptical of it, not in the news story that they're they're going to write for their paper, but on their social media feed.

So then you're seeing what they really think,

what has not been worked on by an editor.

And almost that's clarifying, and it's like a good thing that was allowed to happen because now there can be no more delusions about this.

Yeah, and you go into a lot of this, the great examples in your story.

I mean, some of the people who are saying how punchable Nick Sandman's face is,

you go through a ton of them.

One in particular, who I believe referred to you as a professional contrarian, which is quite the title.

But they went on to say even after all of this footage came out, not only was it

wrong to change your mind on the story and think that these kids didn't really do anything, you were a sellout if you came out and corrected yourself.

They actually went after the people who had the courage to correct themselves on the story.

Yeah, that's right.

They were shaming people who said they're sorry.

And that was really the point of my most recent piece is to say,

it's better to be wrong and apologize than to be wrong and and and but insist you weren't wrong and cling to that wrongness and then try to attack people uh for having a a shred of integrity or more integrity than you do yeah that was a a piece at deadspin that was just utterly vile and and deadspin is a is a really kind of mean-spirited place anyway but i would say deadspin is

or was or was it was right yeah well that was one of the things i i wanted to i was interested in uh robbie because when i read i was reading your piece and i hadn't i had missed the initial

Deadspin piece when it came out.

And I thought to myself, gosh, you know, you make a mistake like that, then you double down on it in the nasty way that you cover in the piece.

I went back and read her piece and thought to myself, gosh, she must have paid a price for this, right?

Like, journalistically, like in your job, you probably have a tougher time getting a job.

No, she's gone to a more mainstream outlet and has a better job.

Than she did when she wrote the piece.

She was rewarded for this behavior.

And now is, I believe, Vice, and has a nice big role over at Vice.

Yes, and I remember people at the time, a year ago, this was,

so there were people at slightly more mainstream, not mainstream, but in like an Atlantic type, leftist or more respectable.

I remember people sharing that piece and citing that piece in clearly in a way that, like, this is what I wish I could have said.

This is how I, this represents my thinking, but I can't get away with that in my position.

But so I'll just put this out for you to, you know what I mean?

There was a lot of that.

Yeah.

There was a lot of that.

Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't surprise me.

But I mean, it is remarkable that someone goes through that.

You know, Deadspin, obviously, you know, they were

a big attitude place and, you know, obviously went through all of its troubles and is basically gone now.

But to go over to now device, which again, I'm not saying is a mainstream site and it certainly has some of the same characteristics as Deadspin, but again, it has shows on HBO and it has these big relationships with advertisers and all this.

And she gets rewarded for this stuff.

I mean, this is why it's impossible, I think, for people to take the media seriously when sometimes they do need to take it seriously because this stuff continues to happen over and over again.

Robbie, what happens next?

Where do we go from here?

Oh, that's a difficult question.

I mean,

I wish we could have

some faith in the media.

I wish they were more responsible and could earn back the public trust in some cases because a lot of, you know, I'm a journalist.

I know a lot of people who do good work.

and it it it some I think sometimes it all gets written off because of these high-profile total disasters so there needs to be some kind of settling down or taking a breath or stepping back or I just wish people the journalists themselves would would refrain from from having this need to like

tell crazy viral stories without any additional information.

Like, I mean, the fundamental fact of the Covington story is that it wasn't even a story.

It was a trivial incident between people who were not, who had no social significance.

So there was no reason to write about it in the first place.

Right.

So that kind of news judgment that privacy matters a little bit, that we should not use all the technology we have today to watch people all the time and call them out for wrong thing.

I mean, that takes an act of personal responsibility on the part of the media that maybe they will get there.

Yeah.

After their response to Joe Biden's memo, where he said, step in line and don't report on any of this stuff,

I think we're a ways before they start to turn around and go, hey, maybe I'm headed in the wrong direction.

Robbie, thank you so much.

Robbie Suave, senior editor at Reason.com.

Thanks.

Always great to have you on.

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The first one is Schiff is warning on a Russian attack on the U.S.

mainland,

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we have to impeach him because removing Trump from office is necessary for the integrity of the 2020 election because it can't be assured if he's in office.

Just that statement in and of itself is so damaging to the Republic.

Mr.

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our voting system?

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What has the Congress done if he's so concerned about the 2020 election?

By the way, that's a whole new charge.

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Then he said,

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We're all individuals.

And

I saw her speak at Charlie Kirk's conference of Turning Turning Point USA in West Palm just right before Christmas.

And she,

I think she could be president.

I really do.

I think maybe 10 years, if she continues on this curve, her learning curve is almost straight up, and she's not afraid to say, I don't know.

But

the message that she has been delivering on stage is very powerful and well thought out.

And

I'm really impressed with her.

And likewise with Charlie Kirk.

Charlie Kirk, did you even know who he was five years ago?

No.

I don't think I did.

Charlie Kirk is a guy who grew up watching me on Fox.

And he and his family would watch the show every day together.

And he said that he

understood by the end of it that you can do things.

You're empowered and you can do things.

And so when he got into his last year of high school, he started a group, and that's turned now into Turning Point USA,

which is,

wouldn't you say now, the biggest youth

political organization out there?

Yeah, I probably would say that.

The most influential currently, for sure.

And he is, I mean, he is, he's really challenging in many ways.

CPAC, I mean, it is, they're completely different in so many ways, but he is, he's, he's done with the youth what CPAC has done for a very long time for conservatives of any age.

And there's some other good youth organizations as well on the conservative side.

But, I mean, Turning Point has been, has made a big, huge amount of amount of noise.

Yeah.

So I've gotten to know Charlie really well

as well here in the last year or so.

And when we sat down in West Palm,

I had asked, I thought I had asked to interview him for my podcast.

He was under the understanding that I had been asked to be on his podcast and he was going to interview me.

And so we decided, you know, we're like,

you don't want to spend two hours doing two different shows.

And we're like, we're both like, no.

And so we decided, let's just interview each other and we'll both use it on our podcast.

So this is the first time that Charlie Kirk's podcast is available elsewhere and my podcast is available elsewhere.

They're releasing it today.

So normally we release our podcast on Saturday, but we're going to release it today as well.

It is

me with Charlie Kirk, and this particular clip

is

him asking me a question.

So I am responding about

America and the American ideal.

Everyone has to be able to fall.

Everyone has to be able to bleed.

Everyone has to be able to succeed because it's about the individual, not the group.

And

so well said.

Skeptics will say, but that's doomed to fail because of the law of hierarchies.

So that you'll have so many people in the competence hierarchy that will get so good and will only multiply their wealth and multiply it.

And over time, the mob will be created no matter what.

What is our

pessimistic way to look at it?

And I'm saying I believe it.

What is our mission statement?

As a country?

Yeah.

That's how I would articulate it.

Yeah.

Boy, I would go back to the American Trinity, which is liberty, in God we trust, e pluribus unum, which means out of many, one, and also to be able to live free and make choices as you see fit as long as they don't hurt somebody else.

So may I take that?

That was on.

That was on the floor.

On the floor.

On the floor.

May I take what you just said?

Please go ahead.

And rip it apart.

No, no, no.

It's right.

Let me restate it a little more eloquently.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

And among these rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And governments are instituted among men to protect those rights.

Okay?

That is the greatest mission statement of all time.

Thank you, John Locke.

And everyone says, Yeah, well, we never achieved it.

Yeah, we haven't.

We haven't.

Do you realize that aspirational statement?

Those founders that wrote that said, I believe man can do this.

That's like John F.

Kennedy.

My father was born in 1926.

And we talked about the moon launch.

And I said, what was that like?

And he said, son, you have no idea.

When I was growing up, we didn't think we could go to the moon.

Nobody even talked about it.

We didn't even think about it.

We didn't even have electricity.

The moon was just there, and we were here, and there's no way we're ever going to go to the moon.

John F.

Kennedy says, We're going to go to the moon, we're going to put men on it, and we're going to return them home by the end of this decade.

Everybody thought that's insane.

We did it.

We did it.

Okay?

This is the biggest idea any man has ever had.

Any group of people.

Wow.

What we do is we just say,

we suck.

Instead of saying, wait a minute, we failed, but have you seen the progress over here?

Have you seen this person, this group?

Have you seen what these people have done?

And promote the general welfare and domestic tranquility by saying, look at how we're advancing as man.

It doesn't answer his basic question in this clip about, yeah, but there's going to be people left out.

Yes and no.

Yes and no.

We are in a place now where we could very easily see

oligarchs of literal biblical proportions, as long as you're talking about the last chapter of the New Testament.

The oligarchs that could be created now through technology

could be unstoppable and the rest of us are playing for scraps,

especially if

they can

take the technology, they can take whatever anybody's working on, and they can sell it and make it better and not have to worry about it

because they have scale and nobody could ever achieve scale.

Then we become serfs again.

But that's not been our history.

Our history is: yes, rich people get rich, but then somebody else

invents something else, and those people

also become rich.

And, you know, a generation down the line, those other people they fall to the side.

We're just living right now in another

Vanderbilt age.

We're living in the age now of

really the 1880s to 1930.

We're living in that era where everything is about to change.

And most people don't understand that.

And that's where

these people like, oh, the Astors.

Oh, my gosh.

And the Carnegies?

I got to tell you, Carnegie Hall, Carnegie Library.

Who did he think he was?

Man, putting his name on all of these great places around that, you know, were benefiting society.

What an egotist.

And a tightwad.

Robber Baron, really.

We're just living in this time, and what has to happen is self-regulation.

That's the part that our founders warned us about.

This system is completely

unable to manage,

or to, I should say, not manage, a group of people that have no morals,

that don't have an understanding of something bigger than them to answer to, that is not controlled by man, God.

They don't, this system will not work.

So, I guess the answer to Charlie's question is:

we must recognize there's something bigger than us, something bigger than man, that doles out these rights, and we have a responsibility to whatever that is

to serve each other and to be good to each other, but to never enslave one another,

never enslave people's minds, never

enslave them by

stealing their bread or their ideas.

Then, if we can get that part of us fixed, then we can make sure we root out corruption and get everything else fixed.

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So, Stu, could we just talk a little bit about China?

I'm surprised this is not all you're talking about.

Well, I've been

catastrophising.

I've been in the hospital with my daughter.

She just got out of the hospital yesterday.

Doing better?

Doing much better.

This phase, there are two more phases left.

She had brain surgery, in case you don't know.

And she's going in for one more test that's amazing that we can even do it.

It's called a WATA test.

You should look it up.

They put one half of the brain to sleep, and then they wake that one up and put the other half of the brain to sleep while she's awake.

I mean, it's happening in OR and they won't let me, but I would love to see that test done.

But

assuming that goes well and what we're hoping, she'll go in this spring for one more surgery, probably a full craniotomy.

That's actually what we're hoping for.

And it will give her a good chance of not having seizures.

And she has them all the time now.

She's having seizures that we didn't even know were seizures.

They were like, it's worse than we thought it was.

But anyway, but it's good.

It's all good.

But so I've been not paying attention that much to except for impeachment.

And I've been watching this China thing.

And

it started out like, yeah, it's really bad, but it's a bad flu.

You know, it's just affecting, you know, the elderly.

So, God forbid, keep the entire Democratic

primary leaders in a plastic bubble.

But that's what they were saying.

And then, like last night, it was like, it's starting to mutate.

Okay, mutate into what?

And it's spreading faster than we thought.

They've closed down now four cities, not allowing anybody to leave these four cities.

One of them is the size of Manhattan.

Bigger than New York City is what they're saying.

It's 11 million people.

That is insane.

And that's just one of the four cities.

And they said that they think it came from

one of the places it came from was a particular,

you know,

a place you might go in a market to get some food.

You know, just a little market.

Now, it's sold some things a little bit off beat.

I don't even want to know.

Snake.

Okay.

They think it may have come from snake or bat soup bat soup i had a friend well you you have him too uh david hall who was a heavy guy until he went to china he was doing work in china and he had to live there for about a month and a half and he ate nothing he loved the he loved the food the first day and he said glenn trust me if you ever go do not make this mistake do not ask them what it is He said, I asked them what it was, and then I went to the market and I'm like, what's that?

What's that?

What's that?

And he said you'll not you won't eat yeah and he lost like a hundred pounds he had nothing he had nothing but bottled water anyway um so so this

i mean teleening now at major u.s airports we should mention that the first case in the united states has shown up as well in washington seattle yeah

uh okay so

There are 583 confirmed cases.

There have been 17 deaths.

That's higher than the flu.

And they're saying that they, what do they know that we don't know?

I mean, they're telling you what they know by their actions, aren't they?

They think they think this is,

but at the same time, they're like, well, you know, it's just a bad flu.

Excuse me.

We had an Ebola breakout.

It ended up here in Dallas.

And you didn't monitor all the airports.

They do think that this is the first time they've done these things since the Ebola breakout.

However, the China situation, when you're closing down these gigantic cities, it's unprecedented.

They've never done it.

Now, they've probably done it to murder a bunch of people because they weren't communist enough.

That's one thing.

They slaughtered entire different cities, but they haven't.

Yeah.

They don't close them down.

All you people are going to live.

It's all going to be fine.

Don't worry about it.

Can you imagine me on the other side of that fence?

You're like, oh, good God, they're going to kill us all.

Yeah.

I mean, all of a sudden, all the population from these cities keep funneling into the Uyghur camps.

And I want to know.

I really want to know.

What is the deal?

How can a population that is always in a surgical mask?

This is a chicken and egg situation.

They're in a surgical mask because every other day they have a new crazy flu.

You're getting confused.

I think all of their crazy flus are coming from the surgical masks.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.