Virginians Echo MLK | Guests: Alan Dershowitz & Burgess Owens | 1/20/20

It is Monday.

It's Martin Luther King Day.

We are on the job today because we wanted to make sure that we cover Virginia.

And we have two, three people on the ground in Virginia today to cover it, to make sure that we get the story right,

unlike I think the media is going to do on this today.

I think they'll do a great job.

I think their coverage is going to be accurate.

It's going to be well-balanced.

Oh, yeah.

It's going to be nuanced in the understanding of the Second Amendment.

Well, they've already called them just yesterday just a gathering of white supremacists.

So.

I mean, technically a gathering only needs to be two.

So there's probably

going to be two.

Even if they're like vendors, like ad dog vendors that work nearby, right?

At least two.

So, and if you're there or going to the rally, we'd like to talk to you today.

And we'll keep our phones open.

We have Steve Dace on today to talk about the Iowa caucus.

Boy, did Nancy Pelosi screw everybody except really strangely Bernie Sanders.

Isn't that weird?

Burgess Owens going to be with us.

John

John Miller will be with us.

Alan Dershowitz coming up in just a second.

And we start with Martin Luther King and Virginia in just a minute.

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dr martin luther king has been shot and wounded, possibly critically wounded, in Memphis, Tennessee this evening.

Dr.

Martin Luther King, the apostle of nonviolence in the civil rights movement, has been shot to death in Memphis in an all-points bulletin for a well-dressed young white man seen running from the scene, running from the scene.

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Cam is in Virginia and he's actually at the state capitol where they have just started screening people for security to be able to get in.

He's also going to be speaking today in front of the Capitol.

Welcome to the program, Cam.

How are you?

I'm good, Glenn.

Thanks so much for having me back.

So when I was in Israel and I was doing a big project over there called Restoring Courage, the State Department was very well aware, and George Soros was very aware of what we were doing.

And they did everything they could to discourage people from coming.

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all Americans should not be anywhere near the Temple Mount because of security on that day.

I feel like the same thing is being done in Virginia.

Is there a real sense of foreboding and danger there, or do you think this is hype?

You know, honestly, Gwynne, I got to tell you, I mean, there are tens of thousands of Virginians that are downtown right now.

And the mood here is not one of fear and foreboding.

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so far, that is what we have seen here.

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There are far more surrounding the state capitol outside of that security perimeter.

But everybody has been peaceful.

Everybody has been calm, and everybody is hoping to send that message to Governor Ralph Northam that his gun control agenda is a huge mistake, and Virginians want no part of it.

So, so, Cam, you say there's a lot more people outside of the security perimeter.

Are they coming in?

Are they out because they are carrying weapons?

What?

Tell me what it's a mix of both.

There is a long line to get in.

There is one entrance into the Capitol.

There are multiple magnetometers

set up by the Capitol Police.

The folks are being screened as they go in.

And there is a steady stream of folks coming in.

But yes, outside of that perimeter, there are a lot of folks who are carrying, either concealed.

I have seen a number of folks who are open carrying rifles.

You know, it's, Glenn,

it's a very broad crowd.

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It really is a cross-section of Virginia, but everybody's getting along, and I think everybody is here.

I believe the vast majority of the folks here are here for that one purpose, to lobby lawmakers to oppose what Ralph Northam's trying to do.

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Alan Dershowitz is going to join us here in just a couple of minutes with the latest.

He's been appointed to the Trump team for impeachment.

He's said some things that I guess are very controversial.

I don't see the controversy in them, but we're going to talk to him coming up in a second.

First, let me go to George in Virginia.

Hello, George.

Welcome.

Hey, good morning, Brennan.

My dad's name was Glenn.

He died at age 100, and I still miss him every day.

Wow, thank you.

Anyway, I marched with Martin Luther King back in August of 1964.

And

if you were back in that era he seemed fairly radical but compared to today's today's people he would have been thrown out he wasn't nearly radical enough but would you like to know what he told us when when we marched with him

you you marched with him

yeah back in 1964 the democrat uh convention presidential convention was in Atlantic City.

I was a waiter in Atlantic City.

One of my black waiter friends said, George, you want to do something interesting today

after we get off?

I said, what are we going to do?

And he said, Dr.

Martin Luther King is in town.

I'm going to go and we're going to march with him.

You want to come?

I said, yeah.

He said, a little caveat here, you might get hit on the head by a club.

I said, well,

I won't like that.

Anyway, he said, you have to obey the rules.

And I said, what are they?

And he said, well, Dr.

King will give them to us.

So the rule, the first thing they said, do you have $2 in your pocket if you don't supply them?

And that was because you couldn't be arrested and charged with vagrancy if you had at least $2.

And he told us, no profanity, no vulgarity on our signs.

And if we got hit, we weren't allowed to hit back.

I thought, oh, that really sucks.

Yeah.

But at any rate,

it was, there were probably 200 or so of us, and

it was a memorable experience.

You a white guy?

Yeah, I'm white.

Yeah.

76-year-old old white guy.

Wow.

How are you feeling about that now, huh?

Because it's

old white guys that are the problem.

I'm supposed to be in Richmond today with

my people, but my doctor, I have bronchitis, and I don't know how I got it, but I'm usually very healthy.

But he said you go down on Monday, you'll come back Tuesday and die.

Wow.

Well, I'm I'm glad you're staying at home then, George.

Yeah, God bless you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you for sharing that.

It is

amazing how Martin Luther King

has now become more of a hero of the right than the left.

Yeah.

I mean, I think part of that is we've looked at it as sort of the things he was saying rather than the idea of someone who's offering radical change, right?

Right.

And, you know, it's interesting in that, like, the big problem with racism pre-Martin Luther King, right, is that people make race too important.

Right.

White people

who were racists back in the day were the people who were saying white identity is important.

And the same thing, of course, exists today in whatever white supremacist, tiny, you know, sex there are.

And I would say, and everything.

And I would say that it also exists in the African immunity,

African-American community in small sex as well, where they hate white people.

Black Panthers and such.

But the issue that Martin Luther King, at least my impression of the issue

from his words, were that he wanted race to be less important.

The cure of white people finding

a race too important was not to say that black people instead should find race too important or that white people should find race too important, but change the dynamics so that white people are evil.

It was that race should just be less important.

It shouldn't be something considered when interacting with other human beings.

This was more Malcolm X than Martin Luther King.

That's what Malcolm X thought.

You know, get the white devils.

And that doesn't succeed.

And I don't know when the left is...

is going to get that.

Probably never because they really

are filled with a lot of rage and a lot of hatred and and a lot of misconceptions

about what's real and what's not yeah I mean

the goal is supposed to be you don't base relationships on these immutable characteristics right you don't base it on whatever sexual orientation or gender or these things are supposed to fade away and you're supposed to in you're supposed to treat people as individuals Well, that's a terrible message for today's collectivist, right?

You can't be treating people as individuals if you're a collectivist.

The whole point of this is to put people into groups and mass summarize them and say this group is evil and this group is evil and this group is evil.

They just wanted to change the groups around, which doesn't solve the problem at all.

No, it just makes it worse.

This makes it worse.

You're going to go now into what, 400 years of reverse racism.

And the pattern continues.

I think we were on the right track.

I think we really had

a few years of being on the right track where

my generation, your generation, we don't see color.

And now we're being taught that we have to see color.

And no, wait, that's the opposite of what Martin Luther King.

And I really think that a lot of people, both black and white, thought we were not perfect, but we were moving in the right direction.

And I will tell you now, 10 years, 15 years later, I think people would say we're moving in the wrong direction.

Yeah, remember when Barack Obama was elected, everyone was told this is going to be a post-racial presidency.

The opposite has happened.

Yeah.

In fact, I don't even think they would embrace that terminology anymore.

They wouldn't want it to be something where we didn't notice race.

That's bad, though.

No.

It's amazing.

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He absolutely is entitled to the best constitutional defense he can get.

What he's not entitled to is Alan pretending like he's some sort of neutral observer instead of what he is, which is Donald Trump's lawyer.

For some reason, you don't want to admit that, and

that's up to you.

But

you are pretending that there is some sort of perfect constitutional sweet spot.

It doesn't have to be a crime, but it can't be simply being a bad president, that there is some magical area in there that is an impeachable offense.

And I think straightforwardly that abuse of power, it's the

framers recognized it.

That's what's the issue in this case.

And the senators are perfectly capable of determining whether what the president did is a violation of his oath.

Alan Dershowitz is here,

and I want to ask you, Alan, maybe I've missed this, but they're not accusing him of abuse of power, are they?

They're saying that

he refused to acquiesce to Congress.

Well, there are two articles of impeachment.

The second is obstruction of Congress, and that's just a false accusation.

It's a separate branch.

It's a separate branch.

The president's entitled to leave it to the courts to decide whether or not members of the executive have to comply with subpoenas.

But they do also charge him in the Ukraine matter with abuse of power.

But abuse of power was discussed by the framers.

It was given as a reason why we should have impeachment in the Constitution at all.

But then when it came to coming up with criteria for impeachment, the framers refused to include abuse of power because it was too broad, too open-ended, and in the words of James Madison, who's the father of our Constitution, would leave presidents to serve at the will of Congress.

And that's exactly what the framers didn't want, which is why they were very specific and said a president can be impeached only for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Misdemeanors are crimes.

And according to Blackstone, whose book was the most influential one at the time, a misdemeanor is a species of crime.

We think of it now like jaywalking, but that's not what it was meant at the time.

No, misdemeanor.

In fact,

at common law, there was such a thing as a capital misdemeanor.

A person could be executed.

For example, if somebody shot the king's deer in the king's park, that would be regarded as a misdemeanor, but he could lose his head over it.

It's just that his blood wouldn't be attained.

His family wouldn't be suffering, but because it wasn't a felony, but thus misdemeanors could be very, very serious.

They also included things like maladministration, but the frame is explicitly rejected.

There was actually a vote on maladministration, and it went down, I think, nine to two or something like that.

And then the person who offered that amendment withdrew it and substituted high crimes and misdemeanors.

I've now read, I think, every word of every framer

debating impeachment.

And I've also, of course, read the Federalist Papers and I've read the statements made by the lawyers in the trial of Andrew Johnson and I think I'm pretty well prepared to help inform the senators.

Jeffrey Toobin seems to think somehow it's a sin for me to

be presenting my case to the Senate because I'm not

involved in every aspect of the

trial.

Very often I come into a case as of counsel on the constitutional issues

and I don't get involved in the day-to-day issues in the case, but I just present on the constitutional issues.

And that's precisely what I'm doing in this case.

It's consistent with what I've done in many, many other prior cases.

And there's nothing unusual about it.

But, you know, people don't want to address my arguments on the merits.

What they want to do is attack me personally.

And that's what's happened in this country.

Everything's become a personal attack.

People won't talk to me.

People won't engage with me because they think I'm representing the devil and I'm the devil's advocate.

And you are still a liberal Democrat.

Liberal Democrat.

Right.

I mean,

it's crazy.

All right.

Let me ask you on

abuse of power.

If they're charging abuse of power in the Ukraine, they're saying basically that he was trying to withhold money, et cetera, et cetera.

But how can you prove that without

going into what the president was concerned about on the abuse

of the Ukrainians through the State Department, you know, through our embassy in 2016, and also the use of our money being laundered and shipped back to Hunter Biden.

How can you possibly make this case without going into what the president said?

I need you to look into these things.

Well, I think there's a fair point for that.

And if witnesses are called by the Democrats, obviously witnesses will have to be called by the Republicans.

And one of the issues will be when the president said on the telephone call to the president of Ukraine,

I need you to look into whether or not there was an investigation of Hunter Biden.

We have to see, because remember, we do have a conversation between Joe Biden, who I like, and who I've known for many, many years.

But there is that conversation in which he said he told the Ukrainians that unless they fire the prosecutor within six hours, the money will be withheld.

Now, the question is, was that prosecutor corrupt?

Should he have been fired?

Was he looking into Hunter Biden?

Was that abuse of power?

That will have to come up.

And that will have to be, look, I don't think

abuse of power is a constitutionally impeachable offense, regardless of who does it.

I don't distinguish between Democrats and Republicans.

But I think that

All these things would have to be looked at and the trial would be interminable.

It would take forever if a witness is a call.

But if that's what the Senate wants, excuse me, they have the authority to do it because they make the decisions.

So wouldn't,

you know.

Wouldn't abuse of power be

like what Nixon was doing, using federal agencies for his own?

Wouldn't abuse of power be Barack Obama with the IRS or his administration with the IRS?

Well, with Nixon, he committed crimes.

At least he was accused of committing crimes.

That is, paying hush money to witnesses.

He was accused of telling his associates a lie to the FBI, of erasing a tape.

All of those would be criminal if they could be proved.

Whereas what's alleged against President Trump is not criminal.

If they had criminal issues to allege, you can be sure they would have done it.

If they could establish bribery or treason, they would have done it.

But they didn't.

They instead used this concept of

abuse of power, which is so broad and general, that any president could, as you say, any president could be charged with it.

So is it accurate to describe the impeachment?

Because I don't think a lot of people even understand how this works, but

on a very surface level, that what

the House did is almost like a grand jury.

That's right.

And then it's passed over to the Senate.

Now, can they continue to add new things?

For instance, this this Lev Parnes stuff, which I find interesting at best,

but

can they continue to evolve the charges?

Well, they can add new evidence of the original charges, but they can't add new charges without going through the impeachment process in the House.

And, you know, that's so Lev Pardez would be a hard case because to the extent he's alleging something different,

that maybe require going back to the House, to the extent that he's simply allegedly adding evidence to what's already been charged, then it probably wouldn't have to go back to the House.

But you know, these are issues that would have to be determined by the House and the Senate because the Constitution doesn't lay out the procedures.

It just says the House shall be the sole judge of impeachment and the Senate shall be the sole judge of conviction or acquittal.

And what is the role of

the Chief Justice?

No one knows.

It's more than symbolic.

I mean, he's put there only in case of presidential impeachments.

Now, you can argue one of the reasons he's there is because the

president pro tempa, the Senate,

which is in the line of succession for the president.

So he shouldn't be there.

But I think there's another reason.

I think they wanted to add a judicial element to so important a job as removing a duly elected president.

So I think the Chief Justice has some role to play, but what exactly it is, nobody is sure.

What are the the things that we should be watching for,

Alan, from both sides?

What are the things that will show us one way or another which way this is going?

Well, I think the questions from the senators and the questions from the House managers, I'm looking forward to those questions already.

The media, some of the media, particularly in the hard left media, are predicting that I will be devastated by the questions.

I assure you, I'm going to be very well prepared for any question that's asked me.

I've argued 250 appeals over a 50-year period.

I've never been asked a question during that period of time that I wasn't prepared for, and I intend to be prepared for the questions here.

Whether my answer is suffice or not is going to be up to the senators, but I will be prepared.

So, are you going to be testifying or are you going to be advising?

Because you're not arguing.

No, I'm going to be arguing.

Arguing.

I'm going to be making the argument on the constitutional issue.

I'm going to be presenting to the Senate an argument as to why the Constitution doesn't permit the conviction of Donald Trump based on these two articles of impeachment

of counsel on the constitutional issue.

Is this much different than the role you played with O.J.

Simpson where you, if I remember right, you had a specific part of the trial you were

taking on, right?

So is there any difference?

Right.

I hadn't thought about that.

That's exactly an analogy.

In the O.J.

Simpson case, I came in.

and made arguments,

specifically arguments that related to the appeal.

Somebody on CNN yesterday compared me to a special teams player in the Super Bowl.

That's a fair point.

I mean, I'm going to come in and maybe kick the extra point or kick the field gold that hopefully wins the game.

How do you feel about the team that the president has assembled?

And if you've had any kind of look into what they're doing, do you feel confident that

they are going to be prepared?

It's a team of excellent, excellent lawyers.

Pat Cipolone is a first-rate lawyer.

So is Jay Sekolo.

And of course,

Ken Starr, Pam Bondi.

The rest of the lawyers I really don't know, but they have a high level of confidence in the lawyers that I know.

Wasn't Ken Starr, Stu, wasn't he...

I mean, I thought he was making statements against Donald Trump this whole time.

Well, I know he was making statements against Bill Clinton.

He was the chief prosecutor, the special counsel.

No, I remember.

Yeah, I remember that, but I think recently.

I don't remember him.

I don't remember that.

Yeah, okay.

All right.

Could be wrong.

Alan, thank you so much, and best of luck.

When will we be seeing you?

Probably Friday, but we can't be sure of the schedule.

We'll know better tomorrow.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

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give the best defense to even the worst human being.

But I found him credible, and especially now, if you remember right, he was writing his book on the impeachment of Trump, but it was impeachment of Clinton.

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I mean, what do you have that's bigger and better than Benghazi?

The lies told there, the emails, everything else.

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Well, they talked a lot about it, but they didn't actually.

I mean, they did investigate Benghazi a bunch of times.

I would be very surprised, too, that after impeaching Bill Clinton, that they would have gone for impeachment on Hillary Clinton.

Like, I just, just aesthetically, I don't think they would have done it.

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I mean, we get to the point here, and we have the clip from Chuck Schumer.

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I don't know if uh let's see it's 22 seconds

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This is what Alan Dershowitz is standing up against.

I mean, Alan Dershowitz is a liberal Democrat, which gives him credibility.

He's not a Trump fan, you know, politically speaking.

Why is it that people just won't listen?

Because it hurts their narrative.

It really hurts the nation when either side behaves this way.

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We're going to be talking a lot about Virginia today, kind of give you the details of what's going on there.

I wanted to button up something from last hour.

Glenn mentioned Ken Starr, who is the

or is working for the president, basically leading his defense on impeachment.

It is interesting going back that Starr and Trump have not had a good history.

Starr and Trump have butted heads heads a bunch of times.

In fact, Trump really was just absolutely bashed

Ken Starr back in the day, calling him insane and

off his rocker and a lunatic.

But of course he said that about pretty much everybody.

With Starr recently

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He said doesn't look good for the president.

Also mentioned that this tweet about Jovanovich, the ambassador, said it was quite injurious to the president.

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for those media members that haven't started suddenly hating Martin Luther King, perhaps

we can have a conversation with you about what was Martin Luther King really talking about?

And how does this relate to today?

Because his message, I think, is more relatable today.

Anybody who is thinking, I've got to pick up arms because it's so crazy out there.

Look at Martin Luther King.

Martin Luther King knew he was going to die.

And I think he knew he was going to die the day he went to the sheriff's office and he said, Hey, I want a handgun.

I need a gun to protect myself.

And they said, well, you know, Mr.

King, I think the best thing you could do to protect yourself is to let us handle your security.

I mean, there's no reason you need a handgun.

What people are people people are shooting through my front window at night.

Well, I think we can handle all that.

For your own safety, sir, I don't think we can issue you a gun permit.

Martin Luther King wanted a gun permit, couldn't get one,

because the government didn't agree with him.

Martin Luther King challenged us over and over again.

America, live up to your promise.

Read your Constitution.

Read the Declaration of Independence.

Where in it does it say you can treat someone differently?

Now, the left is

the left says that they get this, but I think the left has only gotten this for power.

I mean, I will tell you that

I don't have anything to back this up, but one of these days I will actually spend the time to research

the Civil Rights Act with

Johnson.

How do you get a guy who is an absolute racist, who stands against the Civil Rights Act,

to five years later become its champion?

I believe he saw the power and the destruction of the African-American family in that legislation.

But the civil rights, the ideas ideas of civil rights, have been around for a very long time.

In fact,

it's one of the things that all of the states worried about with our federal government.

That's why in 1789,

we had the Constitution.

But in 1791, we got the Bill of Rights because it just didn't take them very long to go, you know, this government's going to get out of control.

And there's some things we have to make sure that they know.

They belong to the states and they belong to the individuals, and there's nothing anybody in that swamp called Washington is ever going to be able to do about these things and so we need that extra protection.

We just want to remind Congress and the President that you can never, ever, ever do these things.

And that's how we got the Bill of Rights.

But right now you have people pretending that they want peace, pretending that there are enemies.

of the Constitution and our way of life that are not only outside of our own borders,

but there are also those who strangely believe in the Constitution.

They're the ones to watch.

They're the real radicals.

Let me start with Virginia, what's happening in Virginia.

They have a big rally today in Virginia, and

it's a day where you can go and talk to your representative in the statehouse.

This is a tradition in Virginia.

And so it's Martin Luther King Day, so you have the day off, so you can go ahead and petition the government for things.

Well, there are tens of thousands of people that are going all over for Virginia because they believe their government is out of control.

Now, the GOP screwed everything up, and then the Republicans stayed at home and didn't vote.

And so what happened?

They have a Democrats controlling the House and the Senate and the governor's house.

So

you've got a people who are in a pack to steamroll the rest of the state.

If you look at the map of Virginia on how many counties and how many areas have decided to pass

pro Second Amendment rules and claim that

they are people that

they're safe counties.

If you look at this map, it's almost all entirely green of where these laws have been passed.

And then there's a couple of yellows, which means

it's ready to be heard in those city council or those county council meetings.

There's a couple of those.

There's a couple of orange ones that say they're starting to

move and make progress.

There's only two little teeny spots that have stopped this legislation and said we're not going to be a sanctuary city.

It's really, truly, remarkably remarkably overwhelming.

But it doesn't have to just do with the guns.

But let me talk about the guns for a second.

The first thing that this Democratic governor and House and Senate did in Virginia was to protect the governor from impeachment.

Now, this is really interesting as the Democrats talk about how we've got to be able to impeach on the lowest of bars.

They're protecting their own governor from impeachment.

And remember, this is Governor Blackface.

This is governor,

you know, will decide after the baby is born whether they should live or die.

This guy's a radical as he is.

But he got all kinds of protection.

He didn't have to go away.

Any Republican that did anything like that would have been gone before he even finished the sentence.

But they protected him.

And now, as soon as everybody was re-elected, they protected him even more.

And they said, you know, it used to take 10% to be able to have a petition to impeach the governor, but we think it should be 25%.

And so they passed that and got that through.

So they're making it harder for the people to impeach.

Now, why would you do that?

Well, you would do that

if the governor said, I'll sign whatever you send, but you better protect my butt.

And so, what did they decide to do?

In Virginia, new gun laws, age requirements, ban on assault weapons, ban on magazines, limiting outdoor ranges.

This is an amazing thing.

Why would you be limiting outdoor ranges?

People don't like to shoot indoors, generally speaking.

You like to go outdoors.

It's loud.

It's obnoxious.

It smells.

You like to go sit outdoors if you can.

Why would you be limiting outdoor ranges?

Just to make it more of a hassle, make it something that you don't enjoy.

They are talking about passing the red flag confiscation laws.

Now, this one I love.

In Virginia, you only have to have a 51%

certainty that that person is trouble.

Only 51%.

I'm going to come back to this.

I want you to remember that.

Their red flag laws allow the police to come into your house and take your weapons if they're 51% sure that you're in trouble, that you're going to cause some sort of harm to someone, to someone in your house.

Maybe someone in your house is going to cause harm to somebody else.

You lose your weapons.

They have a cap on handgun purchases.

You can only buy one per month.

Well, you only have two hands.

And then they're also changing the Electoral College.

And this just all in the last couple of months.

Congratulations, Virginia.

Now let me flip this around because guns are a constitutionally protected right.

I know that's up for debate now, but it's actually not.

I know everybody thinks it's up for debate, but it's not.

Since 1791, guns have been constitutionally protected.

It is your right to be able to defend yourself.

Well, you're just not going to let anybody have guns.

You'll let children have guns?

Yeah.

Do you know up until I think 1969, a kid could go in and buy a gun and some bullets, and it was no big deal?

Why?

Society was different.

There's a problem with our society.

Have you seen that

London, in England, they're now coming up with new knives without a pointy end?

They're round.

Why?

Because there's so many

knife crimes.

Why are there knife crimes?

Because we banned all the guns, because there were so many gun crimes.

So now we have to ban knives.

We can ban hands eventually, ban rocks eventually.

It's a societal problem.

It's not a gun problem or a knife problem.

It's a human problem.

You're denying something.

But it's a fundamental right.

Now, let me ask you: if I flip this around and all of a sudden, Republicans took control of your state, and the Republicans said, you know what?

Anybody who is going to speak out against the government or anything that we do,

if we're 51% certain you as a teacher or a professor are going to teach things that the state doesn't like, 51%

we're going to ban you.

I mean, you can go to court and you can fight it, but you have to prove your innocence.

And you may not even get it back, even if you're innocent.

Do you think people would be sitting around on their thumbs?

If I said, you know, we got a new law we're going to pass, if we're 51% sure that that Muslim over there

is probably up to some no-good stuff, he might be involved in terrorism, he might hold views that are, that are really kind of anti-American, I'm 51%

sure

we're going to take his right away to his religion and his speech.

Do you think people would be sitting around?

If we said, you know what,

we have the governorship, and in fact, we've just passed a new law where it's going to be harder for you to impeach the governor, and we did that obviously for a reason, wink wink.

We're going to pass a new law because we have too many kids that are in college that are voting.

You have to be 24 to be able to vote.

I mean, you changed the electoral college.

We're just going to change the day.

You know, nowhere in the Constitution does it say what age.

So we're going to change it to 24.

We want to get those kids that, you know, are in college being, you know, and we might even do it to 28 or 30.

Because they're all being brainwashed by these teachers that we all agree need to be gone because we're 51% sure that they're going to be a trouble.

So they're not teaching anymore.

Do you see those teachers?

In fact, we have big tech who has been helping us out.

They have even higher standards for that.

They not only have not only endorsed us taking their jobs, but they also rack these people out.

These people, there's their own little almost like trial.

They're not even a part of our society anymore.

They don't have a place.

We don't have a place for people who are supporting terrorists or anti-American.

We just don't have a place for that.

And these are all common sense, all common sense laws just to keep you and your children safe.

Do you think the Democrats would be sitting on their hands?

And by the way, just so you know, I would be joining them in the march or the rally for the return of their rights.

I would be joining them speaking out against any state where a GOP would try to do something like that.

Because our rights belong to us, not them.

And they are universal.

It doesn't come with a political voting card.

They're universal.

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So, what Virginia is feeling now, to explain it to people who aren't gun owners, we look at all of the rights protected under the Bill of Rights as sacred.

I know many on the left, and I don't mean this, you know, as a pejorative, just a fact,

people on the left generally pick and choose their favorites

on the Bill of Rights.

And you can say that people on the right pick and choose their favorites as well.

For instance, you know, the government is spying on you, et cetera, et cetera.

But I think think you'll be surprised if you actually talk to a conservative because they're really against all of this stuff.

They're really for privacy.

They're really for freedom of speech.

So I set up that as we look at the Bill of Rights,

I look at speech and the Second Amendment, the First and Second Amendment, as two absolutes.

They cannot go away.

These two are the foundation that protect all other rights.

So if I said to you, if we had 51% certainty that you're going to speak out against the government, you're going to say something that this government disagrees with.

So we're going to silence you.

You're going to lose your job as a teacher, per se.

And we have, we're going to make this worse now because this is the thing that the media doesn't understand.

We're going to make this worse by not only having this, but we're going to have a nationwide press that says, you know what?

They're right.

Those lawmakers in ex-state are right.

And anyone who stands against it

is proof of the 51% certainty that

they're a problem.

And maybe they should be shunned publicly.

You know what?

They're just revolutionary radicals.

that want the rest of the country to die.

They don't care about your children.

If you were just trying to protect your right to speak

and your job,

and your state took that away, and you had to prove your innocence, and the media was taking down anybody who was standing with you, anyone who was defending you, and they were destroying them, and the tech world was isolating those people, and all of you were dangerous radicals.

If you can get your arms around that, for those in the Democratic Party,

that's exactly the way the people in Virginia feel today.

They feel I have a constitutional right, and this government is starting to really scare the hell out of me.

And the media is not

helping.

Tech isn't helping.

And everybody who tries to help is shunned and destroyed.

That just makes this a stronger point.

If you don't care to even take the minute to analyze that and see the point of view, you're part of the problem, I think.

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We're two weeks away from the Iowa caucus, which is a very bizarre thing in and of itself.

But the New York Times

made their choice.

And it's,

strangely, Warren and Klobuchar, which either one of those,

you know, is basically what they're saying is, please not Joe Biden.

Please not Joe Biden.

Or please Elizabeth Warren.

Yeah.

One of the two, because both of those help Warren.

Yes.

Right.

You think about it, in reality.

When would they ever endorse two?

No, it's a complete cop-out, number one.

Like, pick somebody.

But their idea was like, well, people have different lanes, and there's the liberal lane, and there's the sort of moderate lane.

And

Warren's the best one for the liberal lane.

If the moderate lane, it should be Klobuchar.

Well, it's like, well,

if you are deciding on the moderate lane, That's where your world is.

You're not going to want Warren.

So they don't want to leave it.

So then you might pick Biden if if you don't agree with their Warren endorsement.

So now they're giving you another name to go after that is not Joe Biden and they want it to be Amy Klobuchar.

You know, in reality, it seems like a lot of this just points to them really wanting it to be Warren, which is what everyone believes anyway, because she's the pick of the ultra

elite academic intelligentsia.

She's the Woodrow Wilson of our day.

Yeah.

Congratulations on that.

All right, we're going to take you to John Miller, who does the White House brief on Blaze TV.

And John is on the ground now in Virginia.

John,

the pre-talk of this was it's going to be the most dangerous place on the planet.

How's it shaping up here in Virginia?

Yeah, well, you know, if this is the most dangerous thing on the planet, then, you know,

I'm at a loss because we're right here at the perimeter.

And, you know, beyond this line, beyond this

point, and I don't know how much you can hear, Glenn, people are chanting USA in the background.

There can't be reason go out.

You're candid, a number of things, but the further you go, once you cross that line, you're not allowed to carry.

So a number of people have made a point of carrying.

Virginia remembers an open carry state.

They've made a point of carrying to show that they are safer outside of a perimeter where they don't allow guns than they would be inside of that line.

And how many people are inside versus outside?

In the thousands, we're still trying trying to get a count, an exact count,

but it's already packed.

The rallies, and it's not a rally, I should stop calling it that,

because it really is just lobby day, which happens in Virginia every year.

They've been doing it for 18 years.

And

it's already packed.

It's supposed to start at 11, but they had to start letting people in at 8.

So

it's clear that this is something that matters a lot to people.

And we're still just trying to get

a headcount on numbers.

So, John, helping out and looking at the pictures of it, it is incredible how many people are there.

But talk to me a little bit about

Lobbying Day.

This has been in place for 18 years.

This is the first time, I think, that they've ever had anything like this.

And the Democrats just freaked out.

Explain what Lobbying Day is.

Well, they come every year, and basically you go to the Capitol, and they have meetings where you

basically discuss legislation and it's essentially to boil it down as a way for virginians to actually get their voices to be heard um this year because of the anti-gun legislations red red flag laws um

uh basically clamping down on uh on um the kinds of weapons that you can have because of that it reached a boiling point and like you said the democrats freaked out about it um but this is something that happens every single year it's something that is completely legal something that virginians have been doing for years and um and because the kind of legislation that's on the table, which is gun rights legislation now,

it's gotten to be

a much bigger deal.

John, tell me about the scene.

As I'm looking at some of the video, the people that are closest to the Capitol, generally

white men,

which is going to make this very easy for the left to paint this as a white supremacist movement.

Are you the only African-American in the crowd?

Are there any women and children?

There, I'm standing actually literally right next to an Asian woman who's standing on a, you know, on

one of the steps here.

I would say, yeah, it's probably, it is a mixed crowd, but it's also,

what I can see is not necessarily representative of who's here, so I'm not actually sure.

I do know that I've already, there's, you know, there's people of all colors, there's people of all genders.

And

I wouldn't say it's all white men.

I certainly, I don't see any Nazis.

I guess we're waiting to see where all the Nazis are hiding because that's what I was told who would be here.

Yeah.

And I think, you remember, John, you were with me as my assistant.

You may have been an intern at Restoring Honor.

Were you not?

When we went to Washington?

I'm trying to remember.

I was right, I think I had just ended my

sophomore year, yes.

I was transitioning from an intern to an assistant, I think.

Yeah, so you were my assistant.

Remember how much

organs of the state tried to suppress

attendance there by saying that it was going to be

very violent and awful and

we were told that the Black Panthers were coming.

Do you remember?

Do you remember that?

And it turned out not to be that.

Does it feel like the same kind of thing happening with the state of Virginia here?

trying to suppress these numbers?

I'm with one of my producers' best here who just told me everyone to her has been an absolute gentleman.

It has been nothing but peaceful protesters.

And it's

this narrative that they try to frame where everyone's violent, everyone's getting in clashes in the streets.

It's just not, it wasn't the reality, Glenn, on 828.

It's not the reality now.

And that is completely just a fabrication that I think they use to dissuade people from attending these events because they want to suppress the numbers, because they want people to think that it's not important.

And they want people to think that no one's actually interested except for the fringe, which is just not the case.

What I'm seeing is a bunch of normal everyday Americans who, believe it or not, actually value their rights.

Believe it or not, actually value the things that are afforded to them by the Constitution, the Virginia state constitution, and

the country's constitution.

And so

they're probably going to find the craziest people they can and highlight those.

But we've been here now for about a half an hour.

And it's just everyday people you see every day.

And no one's been anything but kind.

Do you see the mainstream media anywhere?

No, I have not.

It's all, you know, there's local news, there is, uh, there are conservative outlets, but I haven't seen any flag, you know, Mike flag from a PNN, NBC.

I don't know if they're here.

Well, I haven't seen any coverage.

I haven't seen any coverage except on Fox, but I could be wrong.

The last question.

What time do you download?

to today the White House brief and what are you having

I believe it's 4 p.m.

That's what we usually

download.

So 4 p.m.

Eastern.

We're going to try to get some interviews with people on the ground here.

We're going to try to get some interviews with the organizers, the people who actually put this together

and see what

they say.

Because what's fascinating to me is that these are people who it is so important to have this right that they have literally said, hey, if the state tries to come after my guns, I'm literally willing to

go to jail.

I'm willing to face whatever consequences come my way, but I'm not giving up this right.

It sounds like another period of time that we're celebrating today, Martin Luther King Day.

Correct.

Correct.

And that's why it's so fitting that it's on this day

because it shows that American people, when it comes down to their rights, when it comes down to the things that they are allowed to do and the things that make living in this country great, when it comes down to those things, they have to, sorry, I'm getting pushed aside.

They have to,

they're not willing to give those up.

And they're doing it peacefully, but they're letting their voices be heard.

Well, let them all know that we're behind them, uh, and uh, I

appreciate the fact that you're there, John, uh, along with a couple of other people from the Blaze that we will talk to later on in the program.

Thanks, John Miller, the White House brief.

You can uh find his report from Virginia today, 4 p.m.

Eastern Time is download time, and uh, you can get that only on blazetv.com/slash, what is it, Glenn?

Is that what it is?

Uh, slash Glenn, and you can save 10%

today on your Blaze TV subscription.

We really ask that you would subscribe.

That's what helps us pay for all of the equipment and the plane fares and everything else to go and cover this stuff.

And we are expanding.

In fact, there's a new show starting

in, I think, two weeks.

Yeah.

Sometime first week of February.

The day after the Iowa caucus.

Yeah, there's actually some exciting stuff happening that week.

And then also, Stu is doing something that week, too.

I thought that was what you were referring to when you were

talking about it.

Yeah, when you seemed optimistic and excited about the future, I thought you were talking about my show.

No.

But you were just talking about.

If you like the daily show

with Trevor Noah, you're not going to like Stu Does America.

I was going to say, please don't say.

No, because if you like the, I don't understand your humor.

I don't get it.

But Stu Does America is a look at the day's events from a comedy standpoint, and

it's really, really well done.

Stu is your host.

I don't know how that works, but hey,

hire the handicap.

You know what I'm saying?

That's the nice way of putting it.

I should point out that there was an unfortunate, I would say, inappropriate video that was us whirling around the internet.

Yeah, it was sort of a...

I mean, you can go up to

my Twitter page, twitter.com slash Stu DoesAmerica.

You can see it, and it it appears to be someone edited together

a clip of me testifying at the impeachment hearing to Adam Schiff.

And the outcome of that particular testimony was very unfortunate.

And I would like to apologize to Adam Schiff, his family.

So this was going around the internet.

You decided to put it on your.

Well, I wanted to make sure people knew

that it was not right.

Well, I wanted people to know that it was inappropriate.

Okay.

Now, is it exactly what basically everybody in the audience wants to be able to do

if you were in this position?

The one thing you'd want to say to Adam Schiff, ooh,

just

brief, but if you want to know what that would look like,

I bet they're the same two I picked.

Inappropriate, though, and wrong.

Very wrong.

We can definitely come together on that.

Very, very wrong.

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So, if you look at the stock market, I mean, we broke 30,000 on our way to what I believe is a melt-up, opposite of a meltdown, obviously.

It goes way up and then it comes crashing down and corrects itself.

But if you look at the stock market and you look where that money is coming from, that is mainly from corporate buybacks, corporations buying their own stock back.

And

that's the big driver right now.

And

companies are optimistic about the future.

If you listen to Goldman Sachs for political

insight, you're going to find something that the mainstream media doesn't like.

The 2020 presidential election, now 10 months away, President Trump's re-election is all but guaranteed, according to the top clients of the Wall Street powerhouse, Goldman Sachs.

They had a global strategy strategy conference in London last week, and they surveyed more than 150 of its clients and found that 80% believe that Trump is going to win re-election in November, according to Business Insider.

Now,

the reason that this is happening is because they're seeing the economy and they're watching the trends on the economy and they see how business is going, and they just don't believe that the government is or the people are going to throw out such a successful

government, if you will.

We don't make changes when things are good, generally speaking.

But that's, you know,

we also don't elect, you know,

Nancy Pelosi and

Elon Omar, et cetera, et cetera, if things are normal.

Only 5% of investors told Goldman Sachs that they expect an economic recession this year.

Last year, they said that it was going to be a close call.

This year, they're saying they don't think it's going to be a close call with Donald Trump.

That's

partly

when you start to see Wall Street fall apart, that will be because people start to believe that Donald Trump is not going to be the president, and it might be somebody like

Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.

I was talking to a friend of mine who has a good amount of money in the markets and stuff, and he's not like a hugely political guy where he's like following every dip and twist and turn.

Yeah.

And he's just like, if

it looks like Bernie Sanders is going to become president of Elizabeth Warren.

Or he mentioned Sanders specifically, but I agree with you, Warren's on the same page.

I'm pulling my money out of the market.

Oh, yeah.

I'm getting out of here.

We will go into a depression.

Bill O'Reilly said that Friday, and he's right.

We will go into a depression if Bernie Sanders looks like he's going to be the president or is the president of the United States.

All right,

back in a minute with a look at Iowa and what's happening there.

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All right.

We have Steve Dace coming up in just a second.

Looking forward to hear what he has to say.

We're two weeks away now from the Iowa caucus.

What's interesting is the impeachment

could possibly be wrapping up.

If they call no witnesses, the impeachment could possibly wrap up, or they'd be in the middle of arguing over witnesses.

Then you have the Iowa caucus on, is that on a Monday night or a Tuesday night?

And then the next

Monday.

And then Tuesday is the State of the Union address.

And the launch of Stew Does America on the Blaze.

I mean, what an amazing thing.

One of those things just doesn't belong.

But

we'll let you figure that out.

It's going to be a couple amazing weeks.

You may be up in D.C.

for the State of the Union.

I think I'm going to be there.

I don't know.

I've been trying to book you for the first show.

I thought it would be interesting to give a perspective on Iowa and the State of the Union.

Can we get that done now?

I mean, we've got about 10 seconds seconds to kind of lock that in.

Just you'll commit to what it's for your show?

Two blocks?

Nope.

Maybe a couple segments just to

discuss.

Nope.

Anything on your show?

Nope.

You're not available or what would be the reasoning?

Standards.

Standards.

Even I have standards.

And it's way too low for my standards.

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The New York Times has made their pick for who they think should be the Democratic nominee.

Well, they actually picked two because

well, I'll explain it in a second.

Also,

we have

the senators that are running

not really able to be on the campaign trail in Iowa because

the Senate

is locked in an impeachment trial starting tomorrow.

So these global warming experts are going to fly from Washington to Iowa and back every single day.

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What's happening in Iowa?

Who's going to win?

Who's up?

Who's down?

Steve Dace in Iowa in one minute.

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Mr.

Steve Dace, welcome to the program from Iowa.

Probably, I think, the leading expert

on our program or on the Blaze TV

when it comes especially to Iowa, but maybe politically, you are really dialed into this.

You have been not only watching it, but participating in politics and the electoral process there in Iowa for years and years and years.

Welcome to the program, Steve.

Good morning, Glenn.

Thanks for having me back.

How is this race different than the other races that you've seen over the years?

I think what makes this race different than any other is

this is 2012 for the Democrats, where if you go back to the 2012 Republican primary, it was all about anybody but Obama, anybody but Obama, anybody but Obama.

And then as the primary primary guy going, it became anybody but Romney.

Romney was clearly established as the establishment candidate.

And so you had these flavors of the month come up and who could capture the imagination of the grassroots and stop Mitt Romney from being the nominee?

That's how this process began for them.

But they ended up with somebody who belly-flopped as a Mitt Romney and is underperforming in the early states, dramatically so compared to all of his national polling.

And just to show you how ridiculous national polling is, today there's a presidential primary poll of New Jersey for reasons only a law knows.

Okay, I mean, there's, there's no, because I just wanted to bill people.

I wanted to call people.

New Jersey's opinion on the presidential process is irrelevant.

Right.

And so it goes back to what I told you guys a couple of weeks ago that it doesn't matter what anybody thinks except that they live in Iowa, Nevada, South Carolina, and New Hampshire right now.

And I think so there's this free-for-all because no one has established their lane.

They don't have a clear establishment candidate.

Biden is leading in that sub-primary, but he can't close the sale because, frankly, he's incompetent.

And you saw that come out in the debate last week, whereas the debate were on, so did he.

And so nothing is established.

It is really, to use a wrestling term, it is a battle royale right now.

They're all in the ring together taking shots.

So who's up and who's down from last week?

I think nothing has really changed from last last week.

I think right now

you have a Warren Bernie Sanders free-for-all for the grassroots.

Bernie is the Ron Paul character.

He has an insurgent wing of people that just want to disrupt the process and see him either personally or ideologically.

And I'm not drawing a moral equivalency between the two, a situational one.

So either they see him ideologically or personally as a disruptor.

But there's not enough of those people to win.

And so he's got to grow his coalition.

And Elizabeth Warren has always ate into his ability to do that.

And in the last couple of weeks, it looked like he had pushed her back or whether she had made enough mistakes to hurt herself.

But now you're seeing, including with the New York Times editorial this morning, you're seeing the more establishment hard left now, meaning the more polished, softer side of Sears, as I call it.

They're now coming surging back to try to push her over the top on Bernie Sanders.

And that's where they're doing body language analyses of Bernie on these channels that are all pro-Warren.

And so I think that's really the only thing is there's now like a second TED offensive on behalf of Elizabeth Warren from the media.

So it's interesting to me

that you saw that bias in the last debate with CNN where they just believed Warren and just dismissed Bernie Sanders.

But also the New York Times now has,

and

I don't remember the New York Times offering two candidates before, but this time they're offering two candidates as their editorial pick.

Explain.

I think this is a very strategic decision.

I don't think it's just some of it is

pathos.

It's just pure emotion of a newsroom that just wants it to be the year of the woman so bad.

But I think beyond that, I think that Warren is their candidate.

And Amy Klobuchar is not competing with her in Iowa.

Amy Klobuchar is running ads right now.

I get more done than any other Democrat.

I'm Iowa, Minnesota, nice.

She's running in Joe Biden's subprimary.

That's why I think this is, I think the New York Times here is trying to do two things.

Number one, they're trying to elevate Amy Klobuchar to diminish Joe Biden.

I think there's a fear that Amy Klobuchar is fading and that Joe Biden will kind of get that.

We just got a win lane all to himself and overperform on caucus night.

So they're trying to elevate Amy Klobuchar as a viable alternative to him.

And then I think it's the idea that if she can do well enough, promoting an all-female ticket for the presidency in the general election in the fall, a Warren Klobuchar ticket.

So I think there's two different things going on here with what the New York Times did this morning.

Steve, what do you think of the people in Iowa that matter,

the big power players that are making these sort of calls and

pushing voters and have the real influence there on the ground?

What do they think is going to happen?

Well, they don't know.

And I think that's why you've seen, Stu, Tom Bilsack, who was our, I guess we call a more moderate Democrat governor in the early thousands.

And I think that's why you're seeing him and John Kerry, who won the who won the Iowa caucuses here in zero four.

I think that's why you're seeing a lot of the old guard come back in here.

They're trying to rescue Joe Biden.

And I think if they thought for sure that he had this, they wouldn't risk outing themselves and alienating their own grassroots.

I think this is triage, or maybe it takes a village to win a caucus.

I think they're all trying to chip in and carry him across the finish line here.

And I think the goal is just get Joe Biden to Super Tuesday and all those southern states with all those black voters and just have him be viable until then.

And he can at least sweep enough of those states to force a convention, if not win the nomination.

I think that's what their play is.

And I think the fact that they're getting so active here down the street or down the stretch, Stu, indicates they're concerned about his ability to close the sale.

Well, that's that, I mean, that's worse than a Romney candidacy.

I agreed.

Agreed.

Romney, whatever you thought about him as a candidate, and I didn't think very highly on an ideological level, level,

as a personal candidate, very polished, in charge, in command.

Seldom did you see him get

ruffled.

McCain did that to him in 08 in the New Hampshire primary, and he said, you are the candidate of change.

And the race changed in 08 right at that moment, because it was the first time we'd ever seen Mitt Romney not on his mark.

In 2012, when I was on the Newt campaign and Newt bloodied him up in that South Carolina debate, that changed that whole primary was in that debate.

But those are the rare instances where Mitt Romney did not command the stage when he was in the room with the other candidates.

Joe Biden cannot do that.

He could have probably done that.

I mean, Mitt Romney is also about 10 years younger, if not more.

He's about 10 years younger than Joe Biden.

So I think, and we're being hard on Biden, but in reality, guys, this is what most 80-year-old men are.

Most 80-year-old men get off a good blast or two and make you think, hey, the old man still got it.

And then you sit down for another half an hour and, you know, he's asleep with a cigarette dangling out of the side of his mouth.

You know, he's going to burn the whole damn house down.

Okay, I mean, that's what most 80-year-old men are, and that's what you've seen with Joe Biden out on the campaign.

We saw that in the documentary Christmas Vacation, that exact thing happened.

And

it's not only that, but Mitt Romney had support, but it was milquetoast.

If nobody had to drag him across the finish line early on, if they're dragging this guy across the finish line,

when you lose all the momentum of the Warren Sanders, the people that

voters are excited about, you've got somebody that no one is excited about.

No one.

And he's fallen into the trap.

All of his ads down the stretch here are his polling numbers against Trump.

I'm the guy that can win.

Regular Iowans on camera saying eventually we have to win.

And so he was supposed to be the Mitt Romney

of this race.

He was supposed to be the adult in the room with experience while the grassroots kind of fiddled and and played favorites and was going to kind of run and hide.

He's ended up becoming the Jeb Bush here.

And so what just what

matters now is whether Bernie Sanders can be the Donald Trump, meaning again, the disruptor who can widen his coalition

beyond people who just want to watch the system burn because they hate it, or whether Elizabeth Warren can be the Ted Cruz.

Meaning, again, I'm not drawing moral equivalencies, just situational ones.

Meaning, beyond people who just passed her ideological test,

can she grow a coalition beyond that?

Cruz and Trump both passed those tests in 2016, which is why they were the last two standing candidates after Jeb Bush folded.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are trying to pass that test right now.

Imagine going back to the 2016 Republican primary, Trump and Cruz flail, and you're left with, well, I guess we go with Jeb Bush because there's nobody left.

That's essentially the argument right now for Joe Biden.

One last question.

Did you see the poll?

I think it's 86% of farmers overwhelmingly approve Donald Trump now.

Does that play a role anymore in Iowa?

Sure does.

I mean, we had 33 counties that voted twice for Obama

in 08 and 2012, pardon me, that voted for Trump in 2016.

And he lost a lot of those counties in the 2018 midterms.

And, you know, that's why

it was a good Democratic year in our state in the last election.

So, yes, it does matter.

Well, let me put a finer point on it.

It matters not as much as the national media thinks, okay, because that population has diminished, but it still matters more than most people probably believe.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, but absolutely it does matter on some level, no doubt about it.

Steve, thank you so much.

Steve Dace from the Steve Dace Show.

You can watch his program on Blaze TV immediately following this program every day.

And he is the guy to go to when it comes to the Iowa elections.

Thanks, Steve.

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We were looking at some of the most recent polling out of Iowa, and there was a poll from the Des Moines Register, which is one of the highest-ranked pollsters around, that had Bernie Sanders in the lead, Warren in second, Budigej in third, and Biden in fourth.

And, you know, it was a tight top of the ticket there between Sanders at 20 and Biden at 15, but that made a lot of news.

Since then, however, there's been several more polls released, and some of them from really good pollsters that have all of them have Biden in the lead.

There was one today that came out: Biden 24, Warren 18, Budijeg 16, Sanders 14, Klobuchar 11.

She's hitting double digits now in some of these.

Same thing from yesterday: 23 for Biden, Budijeg 17, Warren 15, Klobuchar 11, Sanders 10, which is the the first time I've seen Klobuchar in the top four.

But there's an interesting one from Monmouth University.

And Monmouth, again, is a very highly rated pollster.

They asked the question two different ways.

First, they asked the typical Iowa

field question.

And it came out like this.

Biden, 24% leading the field, Sanders at 18 and second, Budige, 17 and third, Warren with 15 and fourth, then Klobuchar at 8.

Then, you know, this is when Booker is still there.

Booker, 4%.

That That was the question that they originally asked, the first question?

The first question was just the normal one, what I just described.

Normal poll, here's all the candidates.

Then they asked it a second way, and they said, here are your four options.

What do you pick?

And this is something that you've talked about many, many times, about being everybody's second choice.

That's a path to victory in many ways.

Of course, most people will know that Womp, There It Is.

never did hit number one on the charts.

However, I believe it was the number one song for the year.

And it sat there at number two for like a zillion weeks and was beat out by some other crappy thing.

And was number two for a million weeks and wound up being like the number one song for the year, but never actually hit number one.

And so I thought there was a little element of this here.

So when you take all of these out, Biden leading by six and the major one at 24%,

Buttigieg in third, when they boiled it down to only four

candidates, Biden, Budajeg, Sanders, Warren, it came out like this.

Biden at 28, Budig at 25.

Sanders 24.

Warren 16.

Wow.

So to translate that, Warren picks up only one point when all of these other candidates are wiped out.

Sanders picks up six.

Budige picks up eight

to go all the way up to second place.

And then Biden picks up four.

The question is, when you eliminate either Biden or Sanders,

How do they jump?

Because what you've done is you've eliminated everybody else.

It was probably a little more moderate than the two extremes.

So,

you know, does anybody jump to Buddha judge from Warren?

Maybe.

Anybody jump to Buddha Judge from Sanders?

Probably not.

Does anybody jump from Warren or Sanders to Biden?

No.

Well,

this is sort of the lane theory of these elections, where there's sort of multiple primaries being played out at the same time.

And you have, and the way we've we've talked about it mainly, and I think is the most dominant way, is the sort of crazy left socialist way and the just a liberal Democrat wing, right?

Most people would call that the moderate wing, though I see very little moderate out of any of these candidates that are supposedly moderate.

They're not moderate as far as the national

constitution.

Yeah,

they're all crazy leftists in this primary.

However, there's a difference between obviously Sanders and Warren and Steyer, who you'd put out there, and people who are, you know, the Buddhajej, the Biden, the Klobuchar.

But there's another way that these lanes break down, which is this sort of like

white suburban intellectual, elite, wealthy cul-de-sac person.

Thousand Biden and Warren.

And those, well, they wind up, Budajeg does really well there.

Really?

Yeah, so Budajej and Warren, who shouldn't necessarily share people on an ideological position,

at least in the theory of the lanes,

wind up sharing a lot of voters because they kind of have a similar profile as a candidate, where

that's not necessarily the same as, you know, Sanders is coming at this as like a blue-collar socialism, a workers of the world unite socialism, and Warren is coming at this as a Woodrow Wilson socialism, a, you know, from the top down, I'm an intellectual and I'll have all the plans for you sort of approach.

So a lot of the same policies, but a different sort of messaging.

If Warren doesn't get the nod in Iowa, if that's true, what you just said, Buddha Judge could do quite well.

You kind of want to declare the Buddha Judge thing over.

I think there's a temptation.

And I think it's very still, it's still possible.

It could be over.

He's not as strong.

Think of this.

Think of this.

Think how much trouble that party is in.

Yeah, because he's really the only up-and-comer in this group, isn't it?

I mean, I guess you could make the argument Klovish.

Unless you're thinking up-and-comer, they're coming up to heaven.

You know, I'll be there soon.

There's a lot of up-and-comers.

A lot of those about to graduate to a higher class soon.

It is funny because, you know, the Democrats don't typically win with older candidates.

No.

This is, you know, the John Kerry sort of approach is not a very good approach for them.

You know, Walter Mondale and like this sort of.

Those were spring chickens compared to.

I mean, they're all, I mean, look, Trump's no spring chicken either.

I mean, this is not a young female.

No, but Trump doesn't feel, you know, like Warren, how old is Warren?

She's got to be 75,

73.

I think she's 69 or 70.

She's not.

She's in her 70s.

Okay, we'll get her.

She's not in her 70s.

We're getting on when I take this back.

I was going to say, she's 70.

She's 70.

Okay.

So she doesn't seem ancient to me, where Bernie Sanders seems like Father Time himself.

Joe Biden seems like grandpa right before you take the keys away, or maybe a few days after before you ship him to the nursing home.

You know, Donald Trump doesn't move or walk or talk like an old guy.

He just doesn't.

And the Biden thing has changed a lot.

Remember, 2012, while I thought he was terrible in the debate, he was aggressive against Paul Ryan.

He was in his 70s.

Yeah, this is now, he's getting older and older.

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We have Burgess Owens on.

He is a NFL Super Bowl champion and a congressional candidate.

He is running, I don't even know which district is he on with us.

Burgess?

Hi, Glenn.

Yes.

Which district are you running?

Which is it?

District number four.

Number four.

Number four in Utah.

And a good friend of ours and

just a really solid, solid guy.

I wanted to have you on.

It's Martin Luther King Day.

So tell me, how old were you when Martin Luther King died?

Oh, gosh.

I was a sophomore in high school.

And where were you living?

Glenn, I was in Tallahassee, Florida.

We were actually,

I was in a school that had integrated Rickers High School, so we were going through a lot of

those issues during during those days, and pretty tumultuous times.

But

it was a time also where I can now reflect back, see the benefits of good men who did great things in that period, and now we're living the results of that today.

And if I can say, I can say this, I was looking at the search engine being today, B-I-N-G, and there's a picture of Jackie Robinson and his wife and his son and a bunch of other men and women marching together.

And I just highlight to people, that was a, I think Martin Luther King Day represents the era of good men, respectful, patriotic, God-fearing, family-oriented, entrepreneurial, and visionary.

If you take a picture of that, you see the environment I grew up in.

And I'm so proud to say that that was part of that great generation that taught us good things.

Well, there was a different way to go, and it was the Malcolm X way.

And there was, you know, the Black Panthers.

A lot of people were pushing for this

to go towards violence.

And I really feel, Burgess, that I don't see the Martin Luther King

agent of change

out there today.

Somebody that, I mean, the left, it's crazy.

The left has completely abandoned this guy because he's not radical enough.

Well, the left never has embraced Martin Luther King.

And this lets you have to understand.

What Martin Luther King in that era represented was our Judeo-Christian values that made our country great.

They represented the culture that every person, every people, every group that comes here, once they embrace, they succeed and they become part of the middle class.

The left has always been anti

this American culture.

It has always been angry, has always been undermining.

And what they do best is they go after our kids.

They attack the most vulnerable, which you know, which are children, kids

that are wide open, that are hopeful when they send them off to school and they want to do the very best, and they come out feeling very angry, anti-God, and anti-American.

So, you know, the left is doing what they're doing best.

And unfortunately, we've allowed them to wean their way into my great community.

And what you see in that picture is no longer what we see today.

We don't see respectful men and women marching and talking and articulating themselves in a very intelligent way.

We don't see that because the left, again,

has taken us in a different direction.

So, Donald Trump is, we're looking at, I think, 3.9% unemployment,

best unemployment since the 1960s, best unemployment for African Americans of all time.

And I have seen African Americans.

Candice Owen is going to be on

my TV show tonight.

This is the first time

we're ever going to be doing something together.

And I have a ton of respect for her.

She has really grown into a remarkable individual.

But

that is the

things that I'm starting to see.

And maybe it's because I'm living in my white world with white privilege.

But I'm starting to see African Americans break out, be themselves, not just be, you know,

I hate to use this phrase, but it's accurate, a slave to the Democratic Party, doing whatever they tell them to do.

Is that real?

It's real.

And first of all, please tell Candace the Fellow.

She's become a good friend of mine.

And

Grant, I think of this, and when I was 30 years old,

I wasn't even coming close to having the wisdom, the courage, the insight that that young lady has.

And she represents

this new generation that's waking up.

And I'll say this, that the greatest present of President Obama was he was such a lousy president.

that America is now saying, whatever happens to hope and change, what happens to the promises that not only this black savior is going to give us, but the Democratic Party has been promising us for the last 30, 40 years.

So, yes, we are not only waking up, we are advocating strongly, come off this plantation.

We have more and more black Americans now wearing the MAGA hats.

And I was talking to Sarah Carter the other day, and I asked the audience, you ever see a Black American with a MAGA hat on?

Please go up and shake his hand and say thank you, because they are on the front line.

These are the guys, these are people, men and women, old and young, that say, you know what, I can care less what people call me.

I can care less what the, quote, means of our community are right now, what they want us to believe.

We are now saying we're going to run off this plantation, not only bring our kids back and our community back, but make sure the rest of America realizing do not trust these people.

What they've done to us for the last 60, 70 years is exactly what they're trying to do to our country.

So I'm very proud, number one, of our country overall, but I'm extremely proud of a president.

who is standing up against these elitists and has done a great job.

And again, I was one of those guys that was very reluctant four years ago.

But when I saw the three years ago, when I saw the promise,

the New Deal, the promise of New Deal for America, and I saw those 10 tenants that President, that candidate Trump had put together, I said, if only he does this, he'll be worth it to me.

He's done that and more.

And thank goodness America is coming together to be proud again of who we are.

And we can have this conversation that we're going across, getting past this racial thing that the left has been driving us toward for the last few decades.

As we're looking at the impeachment now, the hearings start tomorrow.

Earlier on the program, we had Alan Dershowitz talking about it,

and he's getting his head handed to him.

Here's a liberal Democrat who didn't vote for Trump

and, in fact, wrote his book about impeachment.

And the original name of the book was the impeachment of Hillary Clinton because he thought people would impeach Hillary Clinton, and it turned out to be Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts going forward here on this impeachment?

Okay.

Well, first of all,

the campaign that I've put together, Glenn,

is based on four tenets that were given us

by Booker T.

Washington:

head, heart, hands, and home, education, God,

industry, and family.

What we're doing now, we're seeing the fact that when

godless ideology takes over, which is what the socialists and marshals are, they could care less about the rule of law, they can care about what's fair, and they will turn on their own because they really care more about power than any type of loyalty.

So this is what people have to recognize.

Take God out of the picture and you get total evil.

And what we're dealing with, I'm not talking about people.

There are people who adhere to this evil, but more importantly, it's an ideology that nowhere in the history of mankind has ever done anything but giving misery, hopelessness, and anger.

So what's happening now is we have a president who's giving our country the best society, the best economy we've ever experienced, jobs,

entrepreneurship, and 400%

of black entrepreneurship in the first two years.

Women working like crazy.

I mean, it's across the board.

It's never been this way.

And the left has never been more angry because the people, we the people are not

miserable.

They are not, they don't have the power.

So President Trump is slowly but surely pulling back the curtain, first of all, to realize how insidious these people have been for a long, long time.

And not only that, but realizing that, you know, we can have a very happy society that's based on harmony and looking each other inside out.

And we can have our kids excited about our future.

And those are things that they hate with

everything that they're all about.

And so they're trying to destroy him because of it.

So it's going to be very obvious, I think, to most Americans, those who are fair, and I think that's what most Americans are.

They're fair and they just want people to keep their word, keep it that simple.

And because he's doing that,

they are losing power and they don't see it because they have no wisdom because there's no God in their

purview.

So we're going to continue to move forward and get our country back.

I'm very, very excited about being part of that process.

Burgess, we'd like to give the web address for people to come and help your campaign.

However, we can't do that unless we get a Super Bowl pick.

Chiefs, 49ers.

Well, listen, I'm a Philadelphia guy like you are.

So, you know, I got to go with Andy.

Andy's a great, classy, classy guy.

He really is.

I'm at a point now.

I'm at a point now where our group of teams based on coaches.

So, for the last few years, if the ratings haven't been close, it's always been Kansas City because Andy Reid is a first-class individual.

So, by the way, my website is burgess4theforetenets for Utah.com.

And if I can say this for those in the audience, it's not just Utah.

The values we have here are those four tenants I mentioned, and it's time for us to take those values back to DC instead of letting DC come here.

And because it's the most important seat, one of the top seats in this country, the Democrats need to have this seat to keep the power we need to have the seat to get back our big back our country so america's cross the board please support me in this process so we get our country back at burgess4utah.com thanks a lot burgess appreciate it burgess owens um you bet nfl super bowl champion

and i think he beat uh the eagles didn't he didn't he i think he was part of that team that took down the eagles one of the reasons i will never vote for the man

he's going to be great he'll be great He'd be great.

I really like him.

He has guts and then some.

He does.

And you know what's amazing is

Candace Owens is the same.

He's exactly right about Candace.

I didn't have half the guts or intelligence that she has now.

And there are a lot of people like that that we were not.

You know, when you were 20, when I was 20, we were asleep at the Switch because we weren't being pushed anywhere.

I mean, it was like great.

Everything was fine.

fine.

I barely woke up to make it into the place where the switch was.

I didn't even have a switch.

I didn't even know where the switch was.

And now these people are being awakened, you know, 10, 12, 13 years old, and they are remarkable.

And Candace, don't miss tonight's show.

Candace is one of those people.

I think when she's 35, she should run for president.

She's that.

I think she has made that much progress in just the last two years.

You know, I've watched her before and I've been like, okay, she's really good and I really like her, but she's kind of weak over here and here and here.

She is cracking those books, man.

She is really remarkable.

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Welcome to the program, boy.

I have to tell you, my wife comes home tomorrow night.

Oh, thank God.

You know, sure, she's just as thrilled.

No, probably not.

Because, honey,

it's a disaster area.

I mean, I think my primary job when my wife is gone is just to keep my children alive.

Yeah.

Would you agree?

That's it.

Okay.

Keep my children.

Remember to feed them.

Yeah, I mean, if that works with the keeping them alive thing.

If you don't feed them and they stay alive,

I say that they are teenagers, so they got to remember that stuff their own self.

Take care of the essentials.

Make sure there are no wolves in the house.

Yeah, it shouldn't be stray, random

marauding

anything.

Really?

Okay, keep them safe, keep them alive.

And then, you know, keep the clothes, you know, clean and they're at school.

Borderline, yeah, but like this school is a good one.

Try to get them there on the days they're supposed to be.

Okay, you have lower standards than I do.

I disagree.

I think we are at that point of, look, this is it.

When you are put in this position and your wife is away doing whatever she's doing.

So it's not like she's having a picnic.

She's been in the hospital with my

father-in-law.

I know.

She's got a really good

for the last week.

And meanwhile, my daughter, at the same time, went into the hospital for brain surgery.

It's been a very difficult, stressful couple of weeks for you.

Yes.

And that's why you have to let go of these side items you've been worrying about.

Yeah, Yeah, see, I don't think laundry is a side item.

Oh, I think it is.

You can't wear dirty clothes.

It's not possible.

It's possible, but then my wife comes home tomorrow night to a gigantic pile of her family's laundry.

She's going to be thrilled that that's all she's coming back to.

Well, she's coming back to a lot more.

What percentage of the house did you burn down?

Down?

Burn it down to the ground.

None.

She's going to be thrilled.

Right.

All you can do is maintain the very basics of life.

So this is what

this is actually an argument that started like at 7 o'clock this morning between Stu and I.

He said, I said, man, this weekend,

we took down all the Christmas decorations and tried to, and I just can't keep track of everything.

I can't multitask at the house like my wife can, you know, and I think it's just because of not lack of skill.

I can multitask, but I just don't know.

There's no, it's like,

you know, getting into an airplane and somebody saying, oh, it's your turn to fly.

Here, you know, here's a list of things you should do.

Right, but this is the problem with you is like

you've been thrown into the pilot seat and you're like, well, let me make sure the beverage service is still going.

Like,

these things are side items.

You try to keep

anything you can to keep

the house in

standing order, meaning it's standing up, and the kids as well, also standing up.

I think there's a little more than that.

Here's the thing.

I think, I'm not sure, because I would have completely panicked if they were both four and five years old, would have panicked.

But they're teenagers.

You don't leave a parent alone.

And I'm not unarmed, but I am unwilling to use them on my own children at this point.

I just want the kids to know that.

There is a caveat there.

You can't leave a parent alone with teenagers.

That's not right.

It's not right.

Again,

whatever you try to do in this situation is only going to make things worse.

You need to come to that realization and then just don't do things.

You are a lazy husband.

Lazy.

I'm trying to help.

I'm trying to help you.

You're a lazy, lazy husband.

And that's saying something because I'm a lazy husband.

All the crap you did, she's going to come back and say, oh, you did this wrong, you did this wrong, you did this wrong.

You're going to fail.

True.