Don’t Mess with Our Rights! | Bill O’Reilly & John Solomon | 1/17/20

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Virginians are overwhelmingly standing up for their Second Amendment rights while Gov. Northam is adding fuel to the fire. BlazeTV’s Cam Edwards, host of 40 Acres & a Fool, joins with the latest and what we can expect at the rally on Monday. And a North Carolina sheriff's deputy went on record to say he’ll never enforce an unconstitutional law. Bill O’Reilly gives his take on CNN comparing Trump to Al Capone and his predictions for the 2020 Democratic primaries. Attorneys Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz have joined team Trump for the Senate trial. Journalist John Solomon provides the latest on the trial, Ukraine, and Lev Parnas. And make sure to catch the newest Glenn Beck Podcast, featuring never-before-told stories with Stu Burguiere.
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Well, we don't have a lot on

the impeachment today.

The opening statements are actually at 1 p.m.

on Tuesday, but things have gotten underway and they'll be working all through the weekend.

Oh, my gosh.

We'll talk a little bit about that, but I want to concentrate right away at the beginning about what's happening in Virginia.

And this is getting very little coverage.

When it does get coverage, I think it's mostly distorted.

What a surprise!

The left is trying to make constitutionalists look like radicals.

And this is something that is very important

that you know in advance what's happening so you can calm your friends down and explain what's happening to your friends.

I believe Virginia, what happens in Virginia, good or bad,

may be the example and the path for the rest of the country.

And we are keeping a strong eye on it and real prayers for the people of Virginia.

I'll explain.

And we have Cam Edwards on with us, the co-host of 40 Acres and a Fool on the Blaze.

We have him next in one minute.

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He's the host of Bearing Arms, Cam and Company, and also the co-host of 40 Acres and a Fool that you can find on Blaze TV.

Cam,

Virginia, I think, is a,

I don't know, a proving ground of something, and both the left and the right

have something to prove.

The right

is looking for their constitutional rights to be protected by the government, and they are being

disenfranchised.

And everybody I've talked to in Virginia says the same thing.

It's our fault.

The Republicans didn't get out the vote, and the Republicans screwed things up, and so this is our fault.

However, there's a power grab going in, and they've

done three things.

The Electoral College, they're basically abolishing it

once the Democrats got power.

Then they've changed the rules on impeachment for the governor.

It used to be 10% of the population needed to

sign a petition and then they would go forward with an impeachment.

But now, strangely, for some unknown reason, they moved that number up to 25% of the population, and they're going after guns in every way they can.

This is shaking the constitutionalists in Virginia.

Am I missing anything on this?

No, I think you've hit it, Glenn.

I mean, I think that one of the reasons why you're seeing this incredible outpouring on the part of gun owners in Virginia is because, you know, when Republicans were in charge of the state, I've heard a lot of people say, you know, we never did anything like this.

And so there are a lot of Virginians who are, I think they were perplexed.

Now they're angry at how

the Democrats want to fundamentally remake this state based on, you know, ultimately a fairly narrow victory in the November elections.

A swing of 10,000 votes across the entire state in some of these legislative races would have completely changed the outcome of this election.

But Democrats are acting as if they have this incredible

majority behind them.

And they are trying to turn Virginia into East California or South New York.

And Virginia gun owners are speaking up and standing up in opposition.

So, Cam, is it just gun owners or is it,

are there people there that are seeing this government in Virginia have a true power grab?

And they're looking at their constitutional rights of the Second Amendment as, you know, according to the Declaration of Independence, government is established by man to protect those rights.

And when it starts to, you know, be the main problem with those rights, the people have a right and a responsibility to alter or abolish it.

And the only way you abolish it or alter it, there's two ways: election.

And God forbid, the last way to do it is with your Second Amendment right.

So, what is

is this

just about

the gun, or is this about a power grab?

I think it very much started out being about guns.

And the Second Amendment issue and the gun control agenda from Ralph Northam has sucked up a lot of the oxygen in the room.

But now that the legislative session has started, you're right.

There are more people who are waking up to some of the other really, truly awful bills that are being proposed here in Virginia.

And they do see this, I think, as a broader power grab.

So I think that the spark

were those Virginia gun owners, the second of them and sanctuary committees that you and I have talked about in the past.

But now it is, I think, becoming a broader opposition to the entire agenda of the Democrats that are now in control in Virginia.

So I had a guest on yesterday that said to me that I think he said 90 out of 95 counties or 90 out of 95 cities, something along that,

have gone

against and said we are going to to be a sanctuary city.

Is that number accurate?

I mean, how big is this movement?

Yeah, it is accurate.

I believe it's 91 out of the 95 counties in Virginia.

And then we have over 40 cities and towns that have also passed these resolutions.

I think, you know, across the entire state, I think we're up to 136 communities, the vast majority of which are counties, but also includes some of the state's biggest cities, Glenn.

Chesapeake, Virginia, Virginia Beach.

They've both passed for a Second Amendment resolution.

So this isn't even just a rural versus urban thing.

This is, you know,

the vast majority of the land area.

And I believe now we're up to like, you know, 60% of the population of Virginia now lives in a Second Amendment sanctuary community.

So this is a much broader movement, I think, than most of the media is giving it credit for.

What part of the population lives

in the northern Virginia, you know, Crystal City, Arlington, that whole, I don't know which county that is.

I can't remember now.

Yeah, Arlington County, Fairfax County, like the northern Virginia area is massive now.

And for people who don't understand how big D.C.

has become, you know,

the suburbs and exurbs of Washington, D.C.

now stretch for 50 miles in every direction.

I mean, it is a megalopolis, right?

It is, it is, it's an affront to everything this country stood for.

There's no reason

for all of these companies and everything else to base their operations except for lobbying in the nation's capital.

But so what is the percentage of population of Virginia that is actually just a suburb of Washington, D.C.?

It's a pretty good chunk.

I mean, I'd say we're looking at close to a quarter, maybe a little bit more.

Fairfax County, Virginia alone has nearly 2 million residents.

Arlington County, Virginia, which is one county over closer to D.C., they've got nearly a million residents.

Prince William County, which is just to the south, they've got about 800,000 residents.

So it is a really big chunk of the state's population.

So if those numbers are true, you're talking about 30% of the population, and you said 60% of the population is now in a sanctuary county or city.

That only leaves 10%.

And,

you know,

it's remarkable that 30% of the population is,

you know, tyranny of the minority.

Exactly.

And so, you know, what's fascinating, Glenn, is that you talk about elections and using the ballot box.

And I've never seen voters as engaged as they are right now.

I think that this could have a huge impact in 2020.

But I'm also seeing some really unique suggestions.

There's actually a group of lawmakers in West Virginia that are proposing to allow counties in Virginia to be annexed by the state of West Virginia.

And I talked with a delegate Gary Howell in West Virginia yesterday, and they're serious about this.

They say, look, there's no reason why these counties in Virginia should be subjected to the whims of the minority in Northern Virginia.

They have much more in common with West Virginia.

Let's let them leave peacefully

if they can, if the General Assembly will allow it.

So you actually have other lawmakers in other states trying to

defuse the tensions here by changing the borders of the state.

That's insane.

I mean, this hasn't been talked about for, you know, since the Civil War, we haven't talked about these kinds of things.

It's insane what's going on.

And the left, you know, the left knows there are two things that could lead to civil war.

According to a study

by the Democrats, there are two things that could lead to a violent civil war.

One, the impeachment and removal of Donald Trump before the election.

Two,

taking away

the Second Amendment and taking away people's right to bear arms.

They're doing both of those and they're doing it full throttle.

I mean, it's almost intentional.

I've had those same concerns.

And I've been so bitterly disappointed in our governor, Glenn.

I got to tell you, you know, he came out and talked about the need for a civil conversation and let's have this fact-based discussion.

I reached out to the governor's office on multiple occasions, asking him to sit down with me on Bearing Arms Cannon Company for a civil discussion.

Let's talk to gun owners, talk with gun owners instead of talking down to them.

And I didn't even get a response back from the governor's press secretary.

The governor has no interest in actually having a conversation with the people that he's trying to disarm.

He wants us to sit down, to shut up, to be quiet, and it's just not going to happen.

Well, here's what I'm concerned about, Cam.

The way he has approached this whole thing has poured accelerant.

I mean,

this is arson.

And I want to talk to you about that.

The way he has

positioned the people of Virginia that are just, they just want to stand up for the Constitution, how he's positioning them as radicals, revolutionaries, and Nazis.

And I want to get your opinion on what it feels like on the ground,

if that is an accurate view from halfway across the country back with uh cam edwards here in just a second and by the way you can follow him um at uh cam edwards you can find his website bearingarms.com uh and you of course can see his uh podcast 40 acres and a fool on blaze tv just subscribe now all right our sponsor car shield

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So I want to give the governor of Virginia the benefit of the doubt because I'm not a citizen of Virginia and I'm not seeing it as a citizen and I'm not local.

But

when I heard him talk about we've got to declare a state of an emergency because Nazis are coming

and there are all kinds of death threats, I understand that there might be, but he didn't specifically point out that most of the people in Virginia that believe in the Second Amendment are God-fearing,

you know, law-abiding citizens that are just, they may have a different opinion than the governor on what the Constitution says.

And to me, that seemed like accelerant.

Is that the way it feels in Virginia?

I think, yes,

I do think that there are a lot of folks who believe that Governor Northam is pouring gas onto the fire and that by invoking Charlottesville and what happened in Charlottesville, trying to portray this event that's happening on Monday as some sort of violent insurrection when it is not.

It is lobby day, Glenn.

It's a chance for tens of thousands of Virginians to go to the Capitol to lobby their lawmakers.

Tell me what lobby day is.

Is that a Virginia tradition?

Yeah, yeah, it's sort of an annual event and it's generally held on Martin Luther King Day because it's a state holiday.

And And so people can get off of work and go down to the Capitol and talk to lawmakers.

And, you know, in years past, you might have 800, maybe 1,000 gun owners there.

Pretty good turnout.

But this year, because of the gun control agenda, you know, it's expected that there are going to be tens of thousands of these Virginians.

And look, Lynn, I want to make it clear.

Anytime that there's a movement that becomes really popular, you do see people on the fringes try to grab onto that movement and use it for their own purposes.

So am I concerned about people trying to turn this into

something

that it is not?

Absolutely.

Am I concerned that there are going to be people who will try to use this event to seize the spotlight for their own purposes?

Yeah, I am.

But 99.9% of the people who are going to be there on Monday at the state capitol, I believe, are going to be the same Virginians that showed up at their county supervisors meetings, at their city council meetings.

to advocate in support of their rights.

And they're going to do so peacefully.

They're not interested in starting a war.

They're not interested, but they are interested in defending their constitutional rights.

They're interested in ensuring that their children have the same liberties that they have

and they're going to be using their voice.

And,

you know, it is, it is, it is a shame.

I'm going to be speaking at Rally Day or at the Lobby Day on Monday.

And I can tell you, there's going to be a cross-section of Virginia there.

You know,

all races, colors, and creeds.

But the one thing they're going to have in common is their support for individual liberty, for individual freedom,

and for our right to keep and bear arms, which is under assault

right along with our way of life in Virginia.

Let me ask you

a question of leadership and the people who are speaking, et cetera, et cetera.

Is there a sense that you have?

I talked to a lot of people from Virginia yesterday, and some said they're coming with their guns, some said they're not coming with their guns.

But anyone who said they were coming with their guns said,

we're going to be back behind the line line so we won't violate the law.

Is there a sense

of

no matter what happens on Martin Luther King Day, we should follow the actions of Martin Luther King.

And if somebody starts a fight, we'll take the beating.

If somebody is trying to arrest us,

we'll go peacefully because we want to show that we're not the agitators.

I've seen a lot of that from gun owners.

And I think that, you know, over the past week or so, a lot of the folks who are attending, we understand the optics.

We understand that Governor Northam wants to portray us in the worst light possible, that the media will aid and abet him

given the opportunity.

And so we know that the deck is stacked against us.

We know this is not a level playing field.

And I do think that there is that awareness among a lot of gun owners that, yes, we have to be good ambassadors for

our rights and for our cause, no matter what the other side might throw at us.

Because America has not really paid any attention to Virginia.

So this will be their first exposure.

If something goes wrong, it'll be everywhere.

And image is everything.

And if

the constitutionalists are calm, collected, and they're taking beatings from Nazis or Antifa, which I don't think is going to happen,

they win.

If they look like they're the instigators or make it just do something like, you know, they you couldn't even break lines um you couldn't even go and help your friend on the ground with martin luther king they were so disciplined but that's why they won um cam i thank you so much we'll talk to you again uh on monday uh

from

the state capitol in virginia as these people start to gather i pray for you and all of the people involved um i think it's going to be a peaceful movement and i think what the virginians are doing

the law-abiding citizens that are coming out in droves, I think you are setting the right example so far for the rest of the country because I think you're the guinea pig.

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We welcome to the show Mr.

Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed, a podcast that you can grab on anywhere you find podcasts, but also at Blaze TV.

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Welcome, Pat.

Thank you.

Really good to be here.

Is it?

Is it?

It is

great to be here.

Yeah.

How'd you feel about the

impeachment?

I'm excited about impeachment.

I love impeachment.

I can't hear enough about it.

I can't talk enough about it.

Can't watch enough.

Can't watch enough about it.

I am actually going to be watching the trial, and I'm anxious to watch that.

I am too.

Because that is somewhat.

That's where this thing should turn.

Yes.

If they're doing their job, the Republicans, that's where this thing should turn.

Well, I will tell you this.

I read an op-ed piece that, you know, they have to vote on the witnesses.

And I could see Mitt Romney

voting for all the Democrat witnesses and then saying no to the whistleblower and all those guys.

I could see guys like that.

I think he's done in Utah if he does that.

Oh,

I think he may be done in Utah anytime.

He might be.

I've heard.

I've pissed at him.

Yeah, he is a big, big name in Utah

and

really

well-liked and respected up until he became senator.

Right.

He may be done already.

He's made some big mistakes.

Yeah.

He's actually underwater on approval rating, which is incredible.

That's incredible.

It is incredible.

I mean, for a state that put up with Oren Hatch.

Oh, good gosh.

Yeah, for 40 years.

For 40 years.

And this time, I think they're looking at him and going, if he's this bad now, what will he be like in 40 years?

We've got to get rid of this guy.

Well, he'd be 117 in 40 years.

So he's probably.

Hey, live till 2030, and who knows?

But this latest thing, i'm fascinated by the fact that withholding aid is illegal now that's the big talking point for the democrats and they got that from the gao from the government accountability office

uh and and i just i so i i was fascinated by that and then it turns out that there's some even worse news going on.

Yeah, the National Association of Realtors has declared that being a lying scumbag is also illegal.

Really?

Yes, I know.

Adam Schiff is going to be arrested this afternoon.

Oh, my gosh.

By the realtors.

By the realtors, by the National Association, who have just as much power as the Government Accountability Office.

Yes.

Really?

Yeah.

Then there's an organization with even more power, the International Brotherhood of the Moose or Moose Lodge.

Oh, man, those guys,

most people don't know this.

Constitutionally, as much power as the sheriff.

That's right.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

And the GAO.

GAO.

Yes.

So.

How about the GMOs?

The GMOs don't figure into this.

Really?

Yeah.

Okay, well, that's why I'm asking.

That's kind of weird.

That was really stupid.

Sorry.

And I'm not talking about just any of the local chapters of the Moose Lodge.

I'm talking about the National Moose Lodge chapter, of course.

The national ones.

Wow.

I mean, you know, they're practically the Masons, so it's a secret society.

They can do anything.

You know, it's so amazing that the Democrats are just running with this GAO stuff, who's got they've got no power to declare what's legal and what isn't.

It's just that.

And

how is the president

not allowed to hold back aid?

Well, I can't conceive of it.

I can't conceive of it.

He's in charge of foreign relations.

Yeah, but if Congress says money needs to be spent in a certain way, the president can't stop it.

The issue to me here is that he did spend it.

Right.

He did give it.

Before we say anything anymore on that, let's not argue that because in two weeks, this program is going to change that argument.

We have

documents and some information that make this whole thing irrelevant.

And it's shocking.

It's shocking.

Is it written on a hotel notepad?

No, it's not.

It's a little more credible than that.

Really?

Yeah, it's a little more hotel.

Because the hotel name was on the notepad.

No, and what did the notepad say?

Saint Regis.

So you're writing something which is clearly a relic from a saint.

You're not going to lie like that.

But I mean, I do think that is something that is important.

Like, I would not like, for example, if a Republican Congress was passing bills that said you had to spend money in a certain way and the Democratic president was saying, well, I'm not going to spend it that way.

Like, there's a reason why the power of the purse lies with Congress.

The power of the purse does.

However, the power of statesmanship

resides with the president.

So the president has a right not.

I mean, he can do it through executive order, but that's extra constitutional and not popular.

He could do it in the United States and say, we're not going to pay those things for Planned Parenthood, or we are going to spend more money with Planned Parenthood and allocate it differently than what Congress.

And Congress would then have a responsibility to go to the President and say, excuse me, Mr.

President, but we just voted again.

No.

Okay, they have a right to do that.

It's sketchy inside the country.

I don't think he has the right to do it.

Outside, he would have that right.

If the Congress said, hey, we voted last month for

aid to the Taliban, I'm just making this up, the aid to the Taliban, and then something happens and the president has new information.

He can stop that aid.

He probably has to go to Congress for that.

I think he eventually

has to go to Congress.

And it seems like the precedent is that he has wiggle room as far as timing and everything else.

Right.

They're just

stopping

timing.

That's why I don't think this is applicable

to this particular situation.

He can't just stop it for all time and say, screw you, Congress.

But he can stop it and say, no, I have my reasons.

I'm stopping it for right now.

And if they don't like it, then they have to go to work and say, Mr.

President, we're going to move on you

if you don't release this aid.

We're just going to vote again,

and then you must do it.

Right.

And it seems like they just don't like his reasoning, which, of course, is what this whole thing is about.

Well, that's you know, you think it's because of his personal political benefit.

He's saying it's about our national interest.

And that's, of course, where the whole debate is.

So, really, the GAO report doesn't seem to have any teeth at all.

No, they don't have any power, and they don't.

It doesn't make any difference in this argument.

I mean, the Democrats are using them as the be-all and end-all, but they're not.

They're obviously not.

And the question is:

does the United States have to give aid?

Now, I don't know.

Was this a bill that was passed?

Because that's the first time hearing of it, if it is.

I think it was in a funding bill.

Yeah, I think it was in a funding bill.

It was just part of a funding designation.

We don't pass bills anymore.

I know.

We don't do spending.

We just do these gigantic bills, and this was tucked in.

It was assigned to be given to Ukraine

as foreign aid.

Yeah, but let's remember the Democrats are all like, they've got to have this foreign aid.

He had already given foreign aid.

Okay, so they had already given them part of

the money that was promised.

He's holding back on the second amount of money.

On the military aid, the 400 million.

No, but he had already given military aid.

Previously, yes, previously.

And Obama and the Democrats refused

to Ukraine any aid.

So this idea that suddenly, oh my gosh, they have to have it.

When they were at war with Russia, the Democrats refused to give them any aid, gave them blankets, blankets.

Which is amazing.

Yeah.

Because now they're acting like, and this was, it put the very nation at peril.

Well, that's what you did for

eight years.

Yeah.

This breaks down into two different parts for me, which is I think what the Trump administration did is completely defensible when it comes to this sort of process.

However, I don't want to get on the argument, the side of setting the precedent that presidents get to just say no to Congress when it comes to spending.

That's not constitutional.

That's right, exactly.

And I think he has the right, I think, certainly for the wiggle room of timing and all of this.

And there's a lot of precedents of that.

This has happened with every president.

It happened over and over and over and over again.

I want you to remember the word.

And when I start, when I give the day that we release this information, we're just buttoning it all up now.

It's coming in the next couple of weeks.

I want you to start that break

before I tell you what it is with the word timing.

Just say, it's all about timing.

The president has a right, and it's all about timing.

Just remember that because this is a non-issue.

And I have to tell you: if Mitt Romney and

a few of those Republican senators don't stand in the way.

All of this stuff, I think, will come out.

But it's very possible that Mitt Romney and those people vote for,

you know, all the Democratic

witnesses.

Witnesses who they deem serious.

Yeah.

And Hunter Biden's not serious.

There's no reason for it.

Well, I'll show you in two weeks.

I want you to know that I've written this on a post-it note.

Yes.

And I've written on the post-it note, St.

Regis.

So

this has the power of the Constitution now.

Wow.

This note that says it's all about timing Ukraine funding is now constitutional.

On a St.

Regis.

St.

Regis Post-it note.

Post-it note.

Who knew he was alive when post-it notes were alive?

I've already booked an interview on Rachel Maddow tomorrow night.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

You know what?

While you were sitting here?

Yes.

Can you check into that?

Because this may be why he's a saint.

This may be before 3M made post-it notes.

This was the first one, and it just magically stuck to things.

Oh, my gosh.

I I think that's why St.

Regis is a saint.

He can make stuff stick to stuff.

Yeah, he can make stuff stick.

Okay.

Yeah.

And believe me, what I'm going to reveal will stick.

It will stick.

Is this on a special that's coming up?

Yeah.

We're going to do a special, and we're not waiting for the special.

We're waiting because we just need a couple.

We have two things that are blockbusters already.

We want to add a couple of other things to it to expand to show you

how people knew.

They are hiding it.

They are in collusion with the press.

And

it's criminal.

What's happening is criminal.

Does the Moose Lodge know about it?

Well, I will tell you this.

I got it from the Elks.

Oh, wow.

And that's pissing the Moose Lodge off.

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Shut up.

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Not really, yeah.

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And it says when government becomes destructive to these ends, meaning when they go above and beyond trying to secure our liberties and trying to take them, it's the right of the people to alter or abolish that government, either by voting or ultimately, God forbid, to use our Second Amendment rights to protect ourselves from tyranny.

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the news of the week because it is extensive

what's been happening.

What's the biggest story

to you?

Not necessarily history would say it's the impeachment, but yeah.

What's the biggest story this week to you?

Gosh, there's so many.

I mean, you have the impeachment.

You have the

debate slash election.

We're only a few weeks away from that.

Everyone's starting to release

their models of

the

election and how it's going to play out, which is to me sort of a fascinating thing.

We were just talking off the air about this Australian fires thing, though, which is a huge story.

And I'm riveted by this because the data seems to show that less area in Australia has been burned than almost any season in the last 20 years.

But all we're hearing about it, how this is a climate catastrophe, besides the fact that it was set by people, it's an arson.

It is man-made, but not man-made global warming.

They're using matches.

We should ban arson.

And you know, you should look into Stu, the same thing I think happened with the Amazon.

That Amazon story was huge, and when it turned out at the end, not so much.

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His administration deported record numbers of foreign nationals who had legally entered the United States.

Compared to the leftist zealots today, Barack Obama could have filled in for Sean Hannity.

And I think he's actually pretty right.

I want to talk to him about

why the Democrats have moved that far, but more importantly to me at least is why is Barack Obama, a guy we know is a radical

who did want the fundamental transformation of America, why is he suddenly distancing himself from some of these policies?

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Mr.

Bill O'Reilly, what a week it has been.

Before we get to that, I'm really happy to hear you're going to have Jackie Gleason on the program later.

I'm a huge Jackie Gleason fan, so don't mess with him.

I like Jackie Gleason.

And what people don't know is he never rehearsed.

Oh,

almost like you, Beck.

Yeah.

No idea what he was doing until he got on the air.

And even then, it was questionable.

Yeah,

he was fantastic.

All right, Bill,

where do you want to start?

You want to start with impeachment?

You want to start with the debate?

You want to start with maybe predictions on

why Barack Obama is doing this and moderating himself?

All right, let's start there.

Let's start with President Obama because that leads to the impeachment and the debates.

So we'll do a very logical thing here, unlike most weeks.

Barack Obama

knows

or thinks he knows that Armageddon may happen in November for the Democratic Party.

That's where you start.

And he's not alone.

All his guys

are very nervous.

You hear it on CNN because that's where his guys live.

That's where they work.

Ben Jones.

Ben Jones.

Yeah, and what's his name?

The guy with the mustache who ran Obama's campaign was in the White House.

But anyway.

Mike Bart.

I don't.

Anyway, they feel.

Axelrod.

Yeah.

Axelrod.

Axel Rod.

All I could think of is a guy in a black top hat with a curly mustache.

Well, he could play that part, actually.

Yeah, he could.

I actually like him.

You know, I've known him for years, but

he's the smartest of the crew, him and Podesta.

You don't hear much from Podesta.

He's Hillary Clinton's guy.

They know that this is not looking good at this point, even with impeachment, even with the media, all of that.

So Barack Obama goes, I don't really want to be tied into this radical left movement.

And I think you're making a mistake assessing him.

He is all about economics.

He's not about social.

In fact, Barack Obama, if you look at him, outside of the drug use, a pretty standardized guy.

He's not a hippie.

He's not

that kind of a person.

He's not a socialist.

I think he is an income redistributor.

Socialist.

Okay, yeah.

And his wife is even more so.

Yes.

She's much more socially liberal than Barack Obama.

I don't mean about social.

I don't mean necessarily about society.

I do mean about changing the culture of the country and fundamentally transforming it.

Those are his words and her words.

But

they are for American standards, they used to be, radicals.

They are socialists.

But

they're now looking like, you're right, Sean Hannity.

Yeah, look, they don't want to be tied in.

The Obamas don't want to be tied in with a drastic defeat.

That's where you start.

Number two, all right,

their philosophy links into the far left.

There is a link there.

I don't like labeling people unless there is beyond a reasonable doubt.

But their philosophy, Obama's philosophy.

I was two years on Fox News, but you were busy.

The

prevailing wisdom of the far left, and and this is why they do what they do and say what they say, that America is an evil country.

Yes.

All right.

From the very beginning of the founding fathers, the slaveholders,

this has been an exploitative country run by rich white guys who have screwed everybody else.

And because of that, now it's our time.

And we have to change everything to punish the white guys, the patriarchy,

take all of their assets and money, and this includes corporations and Wall Street, and give it to those people whose ancestors were exploited.

If you understand that,

and it is no doubt about it, if you understand that, everything you hear from Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and all the rest of them makes perfect sense.

The income redistribution policies of Barack Obama make perfect sense.

The problem with it is that, number one,

most Americans don't believe that.

All right.

And number two, wherever the socialist

policies have been implemented have turned into totalitarian disasters.

Correct.

Okay?

So those are the two problems.

That's where you start with the far left.

Now, may I ask you this question?

I mean, Bernie Sanders now in the latest poll is, I think, one point ahead of Joe Biden.

This thing is a free-for-all.

I think you could head to a fractured.

Well, you're talking about Iowa that he and

in a national real clear politics average, Biden still is a comfortable lead.

Yeah, well, national polls don't really mean much when you're...

you're talking about the primaries, but let me just hear me out for a second.

If they go to a fractured convention and they need to broker, yeah, they need to broker a new deal,

the one to obviously call on is Michelle Obama.

And the Obamas are positioning themselves

back into the center and looking like they're not part of all of this.

Do you think that plays a role in any of this?

Possible, but the people who know Michelle Obama, who I know, say that she sincerely does not want to do that, does not want to run for president.

I believe that.

Okay.

So I see it's more of a Bloomberg play

that Bloomberg will be hovering around

and

will tell the Democratic power brokers, say you may not like me because I'm a rich white guy, but I can beat him.

And since you don't have anybody else, let me be the nominee.

So Bloomberg is playing the Rudy Giuliani strategy from a few years ago with the GOP and putting all of his eggs in Super Tuesday,

hoping that I think that there is a different winner in every primary.

Yeah, nobody goes in with a commanding lead.

But Bloomberg knows he doesn't really have a chance to get enough delegates to win.

He's doing two things.

If there is a brokered convention, there he is.

And even if there is a nominee, it'll probably be Biden.

And Biden will give me Secretary of State or Secretary of Treasury.

That's That's what Bloomberg wants.

Because I think the split-up convention thing does lead to some possibility for Bloomberg in this sort of fantasy world I'm sure he's living in.

So is Hillary.

However, I think Bloomberg will be there.

Because he's not really a consensus candidate for the left, Bloomberg.

What he might be, though, is an alternative if Sanders sweeps the early

primaries and Biden's campaign is in shambles,

you have Bloomberg there as an alternative to a Bernie, which there is a good chunk of the Democrats who they they actually don't want him to be the nominee.

They take almost anybody else, and he's got billions of dollars to spend.

Is there a possibility there for Bloomberg?

You know, it's a tough call for the Democratic Party because if they give it to Bloomberg, all the far-left progressives.

And I don't think black Americans are going to vote for Bloomberg either.

All right?

I could be wrong on that last one, but I know the progressives will not buy into it.

And the media that props up the far-left doesn't want Bloomberg either, although the New York Times would probably, you know,

reluctantly get behind him.

So this is the latest from Des Moines from the Washington Examiner.

Bernie Sanders supporters in Iowa are warning that a lack of enthusiasm for Joe Biden would bring the same result nomination of another milquetoast Democrat that it did four years ago, electing Donald Trump.

They said that

if the Democrats go with

a bland centrist, they will stay home.

And the Sanders supporters are the ones with the most passion.

They're also the furthest left.

Are you concerned at all, Bill, about some of the threats that we learned from Project Veritas this week, from

some of these people on the Sanders campaign that were talking about

Chicago 68 in Milwaukee?

I'm not concerned about civil unrest on the left.

What I am perplexed about is how any American could support Bernie Sanders.

I just can't imagine.

I don't know anyone personally, and I know thousands of people, most of whom won't talk to me, but I know them.

I don't know how anyone can support him.

Two reasons.

He said very clearly from the very beginning of the campaign that he would withdraw all American troops from the Middle East.

So, when asked by the very astute Wolf Blitzer, hey,

if you do that,

ISIS will reconstitute and kill thousands of people as it did when Barack Obama did exactly the same thing in Iraq.

Do you not remember that?

And do you not fear that ISIS would reconstitute?

Bernie, of course, didn't come anywhere near answering that question.

Instead, he went back to Vietnam for a little lecture and then to the Iraq War for another little lecture.

But instead of of following up, Mr.

Blitzer didn't.

Of course he didn't, because if he did follow up, he wouldn't have the slot in the debate.

CNN would remove him.

All he had to say was, with all due respect, Senator, you didn't come close to answering my question.

ISIS will reconstitute.

They'll kill thousands of people.

They'll try to attack the United States.

What are you going to do about it?

And Bernie would say, I'll get my allies.

We'll get everybody together.

We'll get the allies.

You know, some stupid bills like that.

The second thing, which is even more intense, is if Bernie Sanders was ever present in the United States and did manage to control the Democrats, the House, and the Senate, there would be a depression in this country, not a recession.

Depression.

All right?

There would be a massive flight of capital out of the United States.

Because people and corporations that have assets are not going to let Bernie Sanders and the Democrats take those assets.

We know this from the partially socialist government in France that when they went for taxes, like Bernie Sanders is talking about, they had to repeal it within the first year because France was collapsing.

People just left.

They moved their money out.

And that would make France look like a Boy Scout meeting.

It would.

Here.

It would.

And we owe $22 trillion.

Well, what would people holding that debt do?

I want to give you one other reason that you might vote for Bernie Sanders, and that is you're a fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

You just don't know that's not Larry David, and you think he would be really funny.

All right, back with Bill O'Reilly here in just a second.

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So, so, Bill.

Yes.

How do you see the first four states breaking out

in the next couple of weeks?

All right, it's impossible.

You know, it's impossible.

You just can't predict Iowa caucus because there are 17 people voting.

Correct.

I know.

It's weird.

Yeah.

And if a couple of them have a bad night the night before in the Super Bowl and they lose, they may not show up.

Right.

So there's nobody votes.

I mean, this is a party-run thing dominated by

let's give Bernie Iowa.

We'll give it to him.

All right.

He'll win it by, you know, three votes out of the 37 or whatever.

Then I go over to New Hampshire, neighboring state to Vermont, where Bernie allegedly lives.

And I think Biden may pull it off in the granite state because that's a statewide vote.

And

people in New Hampshire, you've got some radical hippies up there, but nothing like Vermont.

I mean, if he can't pull his own region, that says something.

Yeah, so I'm going to give Biden, and I could be wrong, obviously, I'm going to give him New Hampshire.

Then they swing down to to South Carolina and out to Nevada.

South Carolina, everyone knows Biden will win because of the African-American vote there.

And Nevada, I think Biden will probably win as well as people out there say, you know,

the radicals are really not going to help us very much

out here, so we'll go with the reliable Joe.

Well,

if that happens, Biden is on his way to the nomination.

Yes.

And as I predicted very early on, he would get it.

Because the the Democrats, and we go back to Barack Obama here, they know that if they run Sanders or Warren,

it's going to be a George McGovern situation.

It's going to be a landslide, and people are going to, a lot of people would stay home.

See, the problem that Trump has, and I actually told this to the president when I had dinner with him

about five weeks ago,

is that

people are put off by him,

not by his policies.

If you're a mainstream American and you have a retirement account, you're doing really well.

If you have a college fund for your kids or grandkids, that's way up.

And you want to give all that up?

Do you really want to do that?

And then wages for working Americans are,

you know, explosive now in this cycle.

And that is a calculation that voters will have to make.

So, the ones that are really put off by Trump, and there are millions who will stay home.

They won't vote for the crazy socialists.

All right.

Talk to me about the debate.

Anything that you thought was really missed that needs to be

well, we went over the ISIS Wolf Blitzer.

Yeah.

We went over that.

So, the only other thing in the debate, and I tweeted at Dill O'Reilly, is a tweet all through it for my listeners so they don't have to watch it because it was a seventh debate.

And did you learn anything back to?

Did you learn anything?

Nothing new.

No, nothing new.

So, I mean, it's like, all right, do I have to watch another episode of Star Trek?

I've seen them all.

Right.

Don't make me.

Although I think the guy that

I think the episode with Lincoln and the Lava Rock would be great if you got the Lava Rock on stage with the demonstration.

You know, it's like, how many mesh episodes can I watch?

Right.

So

I did hang in for about 90 minutes, and I learned nothing.

But the Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders thing was more than the press is reporting because, of course, the press doesn't want to report that.

So here's what happened there.

Warren

is Warren's telling the truth.

She had a private discussion with Sanders in 2018, and Sanders said something to the effect that if the woman gets a nomination, Elizabeth, you better watch out because Trump is going to go in and the Republicans are going to go in.

So it was not a sexist thing.

It was a political calculation.

It was a political strategy.

Yes.

Yes.

Warren is so desperate to hurt Bernie.

She made it a sexist thing.

Bernie, I didn't.

As a matter of fact, I didn't.

Okay.

So now they're each calling each other a liar.

The progressive press, the media hates this.

And that was the only amusing thing.

Okay.

I have a question Stu and I have been debating all morning.

I think you can answer, and then we also go into the impeachment with Bill O'Reilly

in just a couple of minutes.

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That this is based on what he called credible, serious threats, coming from, in many cases, from hate groups from outside the state, coming from militia groups.

He also says what these groups were planning to do, according to this intelligence, was to disrupt this gun rights rally that's going to be taking place on Monday.

So, what did he do?

As a result, he's declaring a state of emergency, goes into effect on Friday.

It'll end on Tuesday.

He says not only does it include guns, but he says it also includes sticks as well as chains.

He wants this to be as safe as possible.

And look, all of this taking place in the backdrop of what happened back in Charlottesville back in 2017.

You remember that Unite to Right rally.

A lot of the protesters who showed up there were armed.

You remember law enforcement was in some ways criticized for their response.

You remember a young woman died when a white supremacist ran over her with her car.

They don't want to see a repeat of any violence.

And so what they're trying to do is trying to get ahead of this by enacting this temporary ban.

Of course, this temporary ban is also upsetting a number of gun rights advocates.

CNN trying to make gun rights activists lumping them in with Nazis and Antifa

at a traditional day to go lobby

the

legislature in Virginia on Sunday.

Also, CNN,

the same time, compared last night Donald Trump to Al Capone and Billy the Kid.

We're with Bill O'Reilly.

Bill, CNN just continues to double down on their strategy of no Trump at any cost.

The ratings

have been cut at least in half.

There are days that I had higher numbers on headline news, which four people watched.

This is a publicly traded company with fiduciary responsibilities.

I don't care what you believe.

When you're doing this to a company,

your shareholders have got to be upset.

What is the strategy there?

Well, you'd think AT ⁇ T would step in.

You're right.

I mean, it's a disaster on every front.

Everybody knows that the whole brand is destroyed now.

And I don't know.

I can't answer that question.

I know the people over there.

I know they're fanatical leftists.

They hate Trump with a passion that I've never seen.

I mean, I thought Nixon was bad.

I remember how much Dan rather loathed Richard Nixon,

but I haven't seen anything like this.

And then, you know, ATT just took it over.

And you would think that they would kind of make some changes and say, all right, maybe we're a left-wing network, but we're not going to be

a

joke.

Yeah.

All right.

And that's what it is.

It's a joke.

And I don't know why anybody would bother.

And again, it's like

for Bernie Sanders.

Why would you bother putting it on?

You're not going to learn anything.

Go ahead.

From a motivational standpoint, though, Bill, I mean, they were always a left-wing network.

Yes, but not like this.

This is crazy.

So now...

Why are they doing it this way?

What's changed is this.

All the networks have always been left-wing.

I worked at CBS.

I worked at ABC as news correspondent.

They've all been, but they would not

change the facts or not seek the facts.

If the facts hit them in the head, they would report the facts.

Now they won't.

So now it's all, here's our narrative.

Trump is the devil.

We have to destroy him.

Find stuff.

that will prop that narrative up.

And we'll go back to Wolf Blitzer.

Anybody, a seven-year-old, an eight-year-old in a classroom would have said the follow-up question.

You didn't answer what ISIS is going to reconstitute.

How would you stop it?

He did not do it.

You can't tell me that Wolf Blitzer didn't know that was the natural follow-up.

Of course he knew.

But he is fearful.

He knows he won't be the debate moderator if he does stuff like that.

And that's what you have over there.

The White House has announced that leading the team for Trump in the impeachment trial in the Senate, Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz.

Does that tell you anything about the president's strategy at all?

Star

is effective.

Dershowitz is a play to the left.

He's saying, look, even Alan Dershowitz, an avowed liberal from Harvard, believes this is nonsense.

That's more of a PR thing.

Starr, obviously, frame of reference off the chart because he went through it.

And he can raise points that, well, I mean, this is what happened in Clinton.

You're not doing the same thing.

And so I understand both of those selections.

I don't know whether I would have gone that way.

Who would you have gone with?

Well, the best

people

in

very simple terms, they have to be able to explain it to the American people to go in and say, this is a clear violation of our electoral process.

The comment of Wall Street Journal today, written by Mike Pence,

all right, the vice president.

And he goes over how the exact exact same thing happened to the immortal Andrew Johnson.

Is that the

North didn't like Andrew Johnson's soft reconstruction after the Civil War policy?

That's

kindly.

Yeah, they trumped up

a charge to get him out.

It was a political play.

And everybody knows that.

This is exactly the same thing.

There's no difference.

So I would have liked that, you know, I would have appointed somebody who's very down to earth, maybe Stu.

And maybe

had him go in and say, look, this is what it's all about.

And I think the American people know that anyway.

All right.

So do you believe that they are going to vote for witnesses?

Because I could see Romney Snow voting for

new witnesses from the Democrats.

But then at the same time, the whistleblower and Hunter Biden, I can absolutely see Mitt Romney going, oh, no, that's just out of line.

He can't do that.

Romney can't do that.

If Romney's going to go and say, I want to hear from X, who may know something about this Ukraine situation, and then somebody else says, all right, well, we want to hear from Hunter because he's sitting there in Ukraine.

Romney can't say no.

Yeah, he can.

No, he won't.

That would destroy him.

in Utah.

I think he's already on that road.

I don't think he's a stupid man.

All right, maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe next week we'll be what I anticipate is a circus of

circus solid.

It doesn't even come close.

What's going to happen next week?

Grand standing all day long, yelling, screaming,

this allegation, that allegation, on the net, it's all theater, guerrilla theater.

That's what's going to happen next week.

And old Mitch, old Mitch better, you know, take one of those little Red Bulls.

He got up that energy level and keep this under control.

Well, I will tell you this.

Easily get out of control.

The senators are seated and are not allowed to have any electronics, and they're not allowed to speak.

So there can't be shouting back and forth, but I do expect.

They'll be in the hallway.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yes.

As soon as they leave.

Wait, do you see how many bathroom breaks there are?

Okay.

They'll be bolting out of there.

So, look,

this is going to be interesting, I think.

I'm going to be engaged and report on BillO'Reilly.com honestly about it.

But I don't see it, there's no fundamental way he gets removed.

So it's all about these people in the Senate, and they're going to play to their crews.

I find it,

I will be disappointed, but I understand, you know, take a win if you have a win.

But I'd be disappointed if they don't call witnesses on Donald Trump or if

at the least they don't actually go for what this story is really about, and that's the corruption of the Democrats in Ukraine.

And this is all a cover-up for that.

And

I'm anxious to see how the president handles that.

If they don't make their case, he's not going to handle that.

He'll just say, well, we rest our case.

I mean, look at that.

Well,

I think next week the president's personal device may break, may shatter.

He'll be tweeting so much.

His thumb is going to fall off.

You know he's not going to sit there.

Would you recommend him doing that?

Yes, for the first time.

For the first time.

I have told him a hundred times to his face, you're getting hurt by these tweets.

You must discipline yourself.

If you read the United States of Trump, you'll see it.

I prove it.

But not now.

He's the guy they're trying to smear.

He's the guy they're trying to overthrow.

He ought to show outrage.

It mobilizes his base and also presents independent voters with, this is a sham.

Are you going to allow your country to be hijacked by the New York Times?

Is that what you're going to do?

Allow CNN and NBC News to hijack our Republic?

Because that's what's happening.

None of this would be in play if the media hadn't gotten behind it.

It's a media play.

And Pelosi and Schiff and all these people know they're being made into stars by the progressive media.

That's why they're doing it.

There's no constitutional basis or legality for doing it.

So Trump ought to just go, go and expose all that.

But he ought to have two or three people there to correct the spellings.

Yeah.

I would agree with that.

Bill O'Reilly, the author of The United States of Trump, How the President Really Sees America.

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Bill, thank you so much.

All right, guys.

Always a pleasure.

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Uh, it's going to be uh interesting next hour.

You don't want to miss it.

John Solomon, um, formerly of The Hill, is the guy who

did a lot of the work on what was really happening in Ukraine.

He is a multiple award-winning journalist.

He worked for the New York Times, he worked for the Post, he worked for the AP.

Now, all of a sudden, because he's saying, No,

this is what what happened in Ukraine, you know, they've got to investigate him, et cetera, et cetera.

I think he is a true and honest reporter.

Could be wrong, but everything we've seen from him checks out.

We have looked into it and verified these things ourselves.

Okay.

He's on next.

He's going to be breaking some news,

and I honestly don't even know what it is,

but his latest stories from John Solomon are pretty intense.

We're going to talk to him a little bit about the Lev Parnes.

Did you see what

Jake Tapper said yesterday?

I did not.

About that.

Do we have that audio by any chance, Sarah?

Jake Tapper

yesterday saying,

let's just remember this guy has zero credibility.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you know, I heard ABC News say the same thing.

They are,

surprisingly, I give the media credit.

I've heard it from several places that they're saying, like, look, this is stuff that might be worth looking into.

They're big allegations, but we should not just take Lev Parnas' word that these things occurred this way.

And

mainly, really honestly, because

what are you looking at?

You're looking at a guy who is facing federal prison time,

and you don't think he'll say whatever he has to say.

You don't think he'll cozy up to anybody he has to cozy up to to be able to get a lighter sentence or even have his sentence dismissed, you know, or somehow or another, you know, he's a friend to

the Congress.

That's possible.

Not saying it's true, saying it's more than reasonable for a guy who is slippery, dirty.

We said this the same thing when Rudy Giuliani was

saying, hey, I got this

contact.

Just having a contact from

this guy and being introduced is enough for me to say, well, now

let's really look at everything because this guy's really dirty.

Really dirty.

It does seem that way.

And it seems like

he has all sorts of lawsuits pending against him.

You know, he's famously started a company called Fraud Guarantee, which

seems to be the opposite of the thing that you'd want to guarantee.

I mean, I think it was.

You don't know that?

No.

I'm sure you've known it over the years.

There's been so many facts that have been swirled around.

But fraud guarantee was the name of a company that he he was involved in and it was supposed to be basically like a protection against fraud, but it kind of came out as like you're just guaranteed to be defrauded

Which is sort of a funny anecdote on the side of this but he you know, he was he's been sued, you know, many many times He's had all sorts of credibility issues here and you see that he's the type of guy who attaches himself to the Trump administration or Giuliani or whoever it is when he feels like that benefits him.

And now he feels like Rachel Maddow is going to benefit him.

So he's attaching himself there.

A lot of people are taking him at face value, but it's been encouraging that some people in the media have been showing the appropriate amount of doubt.

Right.

And that's all you have to do.

Just, you know, you don't trust, you verify.

When it comes to him, you verify.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

Very excited to get started on that.

We've been doing a lot of.

I was on with Ben Shapiro yesterday.

Yeah, how'd that go?

Really good.

By the way, I saw you with Chad Praythrough.

Yeah, it was great, right?

It was fantastic.

What?

It was a good interview.

You didn't see the whole thing, hopefully, right?

I did.

I don't know.

So maybe you missed the meeting.

I thought about 10 minutes in particular.

Did someone alert you to that?

Because there was a red flag that was sent to you.

I'm a fan.

Was a fan fan of Chad.

Was a fan of yours.

How to go with Ben Shapiro.

You shouldn't listen back to it.

No, it was fun.

It was good.

It was good.

It was good talking to Ben on his radio show.

I've been with Andrew Wilkow on his serious show today, which would be fun.

I've never been on that.

And that's one of those shows that my wife likes more than she ever would listen to me.

She likes to say a thousand times more.

She would say, my wife would always say, you hear Andrew today?

No, honey.

No, I was working on my show.

Did you hear my show?

No, I was listening to Andrew.

So that's going to be fun, isn't it?

Okay,

that's great.

We have John Solomon.

He's coming up next.

He has some breaking news on the Ukraine scandal, an update on Ukraine.

And we'll talk to him about impeachment and so much more next.

The fusion

of entertainment and enlightenment.

Hello, America, and welcome to it.

It is Friday.

We have made it through another week.

Let's just make it to the end of the year, shall we?

The impeachment has been going on.

The trial starts next week.

We're talking about the possibility of new witnesses, Mitt Romney being a total jerk and saying,

I love these witnesses.

I don't want to hear from any of Hunter Biden.

There's no reason to have him talk.

Go ahead, Stu.

Is Romney actually you just keep using him as an example?

Is that just a generic example, or are you trying to, is he actually said he's going to be?

No, he said he's open.

Snow has been out of the Senate for a long time.

I think you mean Collins.

Yeah, Collins.

He is.

Romney is

open to

hearing some of these

witnesses.

I'm open to hearing witnesses too.

I am too.

But he's the kind of guy that

would do their witnesses and not Trump witnesses.

Because I would share the same fear as you, but I'm wondering if it's based on evidence or you're just saying, generally speaking, you don't trust Romania.

Generally speaking, I don't trust Romney.

At all.

At all.

And Collins and Murkowski and

there's plenty of names.

And Mitt Romney.

At all.

It's not just him, though.

No, but it's primarily Mitt Romney.

All right.

There's something else going on here that I'm not picking up.

It's Mitt Romney.

Okay.

Yeah.

So anyway,

we'll talk to John Solomon about the impeachment, new

things coming to the surface, an update on Ukraine in one minute.

This is the Glend program.

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He has worked for the Washington Post, The Washington Times, I think the New York Times, AP,

and The Hill.

He now has a new website called justthenews.com.

Justthenews.com.

Investigative journalist John Solomon, who is at the center of much of

this

scandal in Ukraine.

Welcome to the program.

Good to be with you, Glenn.

Thank you.

You want to start with any breaking news, any new news?

I do.

As a matter of fact, just a few minutes ago, ago, my friends at the Southeastern Legal Foundation and I filed a lawsuit seeking the records of contacts between Ukraine prosecutors and our embassy in Kiev, the U.S.

Embassy in Kiev.

These are some of the contacts that are at the heart of this impeachment trial, and we're at really the focal point of my early reporting on this.

There was a dysfunctional relationship between the frontline anti-corruption fighters in Ukraine and our embassy, and that's why I wrote the stories that I did.

I put a FOIA in seeking open records requests for this information.

It hasn't come.

And so today, with the help of the Southeastern Legal Foundation and a great law firm here in D.C., I filed a lawsuit to try to compel the release of these documents.

I think they'll give us tremendous insight into what was going on between Ukraine prosecutors and the embassy on all sorts of issues, from the Joe Biden burisma questions to other anti-corruption cases that were going on at the time.

Okay, so

what does your gut say that

they will show or prove?

Well, my reporting shows from the past.

Remember, there's a Ukraine prosecutor who says that

the United States government was pressuring Ukraine prosecutors not to pursue certain cases, including a case against a George Soros-funded non-government organization, a non-profit.

State Department officials confirmed to me before I wrote that story that, yeah, that did go on.

And then we had some of the testimony during the impeachment where they acknowledged that the State Department acknowledged it it was pressuring Ukraine prosecutors not to pursue certain people.

I think we're going to learn a lot more about what motivated those contacts,

who those people were, and what sort of communications were going on between the prosecutor's office and the

embassy.

At the time, we had the Manafort case going on.

We had the questions about Burisma and Joe Biden.

There was an active investigation in 16.

I'd like to know what was going on, what sort of function, what sort of communications, who was politically involved.

And hopefully when we're done, we're going to learn a lot more than what we know now.

So, John, what do you expect or hope will come out of this trial

when

Ken Starr and Alan Dershwitz and the Trump team step to the plate in probably 10 days from now?

Yeah.

Listen, it's been a one-sided story so far, just like the beginning of the Russia collusion story, right?

And everybody was certain on January 9th of 2017 that the Christopher Steele dossier was gospel and oh my god our president was an agent of Russia and three years later we learned out that all of that turned out to be bunt.

The most important thing about politics and about investigations is that there's two sides to a story.

There's two pieces of evidence and right now we've only seen one side of it and I believe in the trial we'll begin to see a lot of different new pieces of evidence.

For instance, if the president

was interested or concerned about corruption, were there specific people around President Zelensky, the new Ukrainian president, that he might have been concerned about?

Was there a specific cause or pause that caused the administration to hold off giving the money until they could be sure it was sold, spent right?

And those are the sort of things we haven't heard from.

And I think we're going to learn a lot about what the intelligence community, what the economic and treasury department community was telling the president.

And I bet the story is way more complicated than the narrative that Adam Schiff has woven so far.

So we do know now that there is somebody around

the president of Ukraine that Trump is worried about or was worried about.

We have that evidence now because of the

massive land sale that went to George Soros.

And that came from somebody who pressured the president to make this move,

who is in his, if you will, cabinet, who is very close to George Soros.

So isn't that kind of proof that these people are still around him?

Well,

there's a lot.

Listen, there was an oligarch named Kolomoyski who used to run Privat Bank, the large bank in Ukraine.

And you can go back in the timelines and look, and back in the summer of 2019 and the fall of 2019, the IMF, the Europeans, were raising their hands saying, we were really concerned about Kolomoysky's return to Ukraine around Zelensky.

There are a series of figures of people who played in Ukraine that have big political and economic interests.

The Soroses, the Kolomoyskis, the Zolchevskys, the guy who ran Burisma.

These are legitimate issues.

And what we don't know and what we've been blinded to all this time was what was the CIA?

What was the NSC?

What were the diplomats?

What were the European allies telling to the president?

I suspect there's a much more complicated paradigm that was influencing the president's decision than, oh, I want an investigation of Joe Biden.

And by the way, here's the most important part to remember about the Joe Biden investigation, the Burisma investigation.

I know Rudy Giuliani was advocating for it.

We see Lev Parnas was advocating for it.

We know it came up as a matter of discussion in the call, but everybody misses this very important point.

Before all that happened, the Ukrainians on their own in February of 2019 and in March of 2019 in Ukraine announced that they were reopening the investigation of Burisma.

It had already happened, so people didn't know.

Maybe the NSC didn't tell the president.

But the investigation, the president couldn't pressure for an investigation that had already been opened on its own, organically, because Ukrainians came up with new evidence against Mr.

Zelchevsky and Burisma.

And that investigation remains ongoing today.

So it started in February and it's still going on today.

Reuters reported in December that it had been expanded to even more serious issues than had been previously reported.

That keeps getting lost in this impeachment drama.

And I think one of the questions senators as jurors have to answer is: if the NSC and the State Department knew the president was seeking an investigation, why didn't they just tell the president, sir, you don't need to worry about it.

It already has begun.

There was a real gap of information there, it appears, from what we know.

We saw all these impeachment witnesses say we knew the president wanted this, and not a single one of them appears to have told the president, sir, back in February, it already happened.

And I think that's one of the issues that the trial is going to have to try to resolve.

What do you think of this Lev Parnas stuff?

Well, you know, listen, I have a lot of knowledge of Lev Parnas.

He was one of about 50, 55 people that I worked with as I spent over 18 months working on the Ukraine story.

I met him through my attorneys, or one of my attorneys, Joe and Victoria Tensing.

At the time, I had drafted up most of the stories that ultimately had been, well, you know, later were published in mid-March to mid-May.

Most of them had been drafted already, but I had this one problem.

I had all the documents, and I had a lot of people on background, but I didn't have any Ukrainians on the record.

And so when I talked to Joe and Victoria about my concern, as you do when you're a journalist talking to your lawyer about libel review and things,

they said, hey, we didn't know you were working on Ukraine stuff.

We have some business there.

We have a guy, a fixer, a facilitator,

an

interpreter named Lev Parnas.

And how about we introduce you?

I bet you he could get you the sort of interviews that you're still lacking.

So they set up a meeting.

I reached out.

He said, you know, I'd be glad to help you.

Who do you know?

Or who do you want to know?

And I said, well, I've been trying to reach the prosecutor general's office.

I gave him a list of about seven or eight people.

And very quickly, he proved that he did know who he knew.

And he was able to arrange Mr.

Lucenko, the Prosecutor General, the Attorney General of Ukraine, and several other figures that I was looking for to talk on the record, on camera, so that every American could look in their eyes and see what they were saying and hear them on the record.

No anonymity, no anonymous stuff.

And so, you know, in that respect, he was helpful.

He had his own motives, his own interests.

He had business interests.

I knew he worked for Rudy Giuliani.

I knew he worked for lots of other people.

He told me he worked with lots of other reporters.

Doesn't surprise me.

But this is what reporters do on a daily basis, particularly when you're working in a foreign country.

You have what we call fixers or facilitators on the ground because you're not in Ukraine full-time.

And so you have people that have contacts.

And hey, could you get this person to talk to me?

And when that happens, one of the things that hopefully will become public,

every time Lev Parnas arranged an interview, I always went through the press office of the official government agency after that.

So if he opened the door, I still went through the official channels to make sure there were no side deals, no unusual behavior.

And in all those cases, I put those interviews out.

The videos are public.

Everybody can see what happened.

Beyond that, that's what Lev did for me.

And

obviously, he had some issues in his background.

When you're dealing in Ukraine, you meet lots of colorful characters.

He was one of them.

Yeah.

All right.

I want to talk to you.

I'll tell tell you what Rudy Giuliani told me about him, and then I'd like to get your

best guess on

what's happening with him and the president and him with the left in Congress.

John Solomon, investigative reporter.

You can now find his work.

He's gone and done

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So we're back with John Solomon.

And John,

I know that I asked Rudy Giuliani the same question a few weeks ago about Lev because he's a shady guy.

And he said, look, Len, when you're in a foreign country and especially a country like Ukraine and you're looking to find out the details of the underworld, you're not going to meet all of the finest people.

And he said, This guy, just like you said, I used him to,

you know, line up conversations and help me connect, blah, blah, blah.

What is the

text messages that

have been shared this week?

Any idea what that was about?

I don't.

I mean, I mean, listen, there's a lot of text messages.

Some of them involve my efforts to report

and to see if he could open up doors for me to talk to people.

That's the normal reporting that goes on every day, and I don't think there's anything untoward about them.

There's a lot of things he was involved in that I wasn't aware of at the time.

I never heard about this monitoring effort of

the ambassador or who this guy was as a congressional candidate.

It was clear clear to me early on, Lev Parnas and I, when I talked, I said, you know, what motivates you to

work on this with me?

And he said,

and it's a very profound statement.

And I will say this, too.

When I dealt with him, I found him to be professional.

He didn't do anything untoward.

He didn't suggest anything untoward.

He was a character,

funny, garrulous, but I never had any idea that he was involved in any criminality or anything like that.

He seemed pretty straightforward.

And I asked him, why would you want to help me on this?

And he said, I've watched Ukraine for 20 years say they're fighting corruption, and we go through the same cycle.

Every two years, a prosecutor's name, two years later, he's deemed corrupt.

We name another prosecutor, and corruption never gets fought.

And right now, in my country, my home country in Ukraine, I see

a real dysfunction between the embassy, the prosecutors, and what we would call the FBI, NABU.

And I want to help you bring that to light because at some point we've got to fix it or every time we spend money in Ukraine, we're putting it down a toilet.

And so he had a very impassioned view and his view was very identical to what I had been hearing for six or eight months from Ukrainians on the ground.

And when I did the epic interviews with the Attorney General and some of his top deputies in Ukraine, they said the same thing, which is our relationship is so bad with the embassy right now, I'm not sure we know how to fight corruption.

And that appeared to be what motivated him in helping me.

These other things that were going on, what he and Rudy were doing.

You know, I had had a general idea that Rudy was doing his own investigation in Ukraine.

Eventually, after my stories ran, he shared his findings with me, and I was grateful that he did.

But I think a lot, you know,

everybody in Ukraine has an angle.

Everybody in Ukraine has a motive.

It's a country where people are endemically corrupt.

And I was aware of that.

I said so in all my stories.

And I tried my hardest to make sure no one motive, no one angle would influence the story.

I stuck to the facts.

When I got these prosecutors on record, I went to the State Department.

I took 10 days and waited for the State Department to give me an answer.

So, you know, I think the reporting wasn't influenced by it.

But,

you know, was he doing some things?

I think we have to figure out what exactly he was doing.

It didn't affect my reporting, but it's certainly intriguing in the middle of this impeachment that it suddenly surfaces as the Democrats begin to make their case.

As a journalist,

how do you deal if this is you're now just coming across him?

How do you deal with the

note that he wrote in the hotel

and

his new

testimony now on television at least that Donald Trump was up to, I guess, no good and he knew it.

How do you deal with that?

Every person has to answer for the content.

What I have to answer for are my stories.

Were the stories that I wrote in March and April and May accurate?

No, so what I'm asking you is, as a respected, in my opinion, a respected journalist,

how do you handle this now?

Would you be reporting this the way the press is reporting this now?

Are they being responsible?

Well, here's the funny thing.

A lot of people, Lev Parnas has said a lot of things about me in the last 24, 48 hours.

Not a single news outlet that's reported on those things, even called to get my side of the story or to see if it's true.

That tells you something about the nature of reporting today.

And it's why we got, when I say we, the news industry got Russia wrong wrong and why they probably have a lot of the Ukraine story wrong now.

The way you deal with these things is you listen to Lev and you write his side story, but you also go talk to the other people, the Victoria Tensings and the Joe DeGenovas and the Rudy Giuliani's and I.

For months, I kept watching that people say,

I just took Rudy's stuff and wrote it.

It's the other way around.

I wrote my stuff and then Rudy gave me his stuff afterwards.

You can confirm that with Rudy.

But no one in the press even cares about timetables, facts.

There's a hysterical, breathless, crazy part of the media today.

And we don't get things right, and we let our American public down every time we do so.

I've got about a minute, so I need to phrase this quickly.

The Hill said they're going to do an investigation on all of your stuff.

And it was widely reported that you were under investigation by the Hill.

Then we hear nothing about it.

Did they investigate?

Did they do anything?

I don't know.

I haven't heard from them.

I will say this.

It was my idea.

I encourage them to do so because I think when people look at the facts of my story, everything's going to be fine.

But so far, I don't know anything more than what's in the public.

I remain confident that what I reported was accurate, that it was balanced, that it had the right context.

It had the warnings about Ukraine being corrupt.

And I think anyone who went and took a look at my response to Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Vindman when he attacked my reporting, I just put all the facts out.

John Solomon

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Welcome to the uh welcome to the program, the Glenn Beck program.

We're so glad that you're uh you're joining us today.

Thank you for listening.

It's been a uh it's been a crazy week for us uh here, for me personally.

Uh, my father-in-law just an update.

My father-in-law just had another test today on his heart and a liver liver biopsy, but hopefully he'll be going home in the next few days.

You know, the best we can expect, I think, is happening right now.

Mary got an update from the doctors yesterday.

My daughter Mary is

at UT Medical where she

has undergone brain surgery, the first of

probably

two.

And the technology is just

remarkable.

And what doctors can do today is truly remarkable.

We got some good news from her yesterday that they have to do another kind of

invasive test where they in where it involves putting one side of the brain asleep

and then having her awake and talk to her and have her move.

And then they wake that side of the brain up and put the other side of the brain to sleep.

It's it's crazy, crazy what they can do today.

And

could you consider going to Venezuela to get the surgery?

Because I mean, it seems like they have such a book.

Cuba was booked.

Oh, okay.

Cuba.

That makes a lot of sense.

But we're actually now praying for the surgery that would require a full craniotomy.

And I know that sounds crazy, but

they...

they think that

they might be able to give her at least a 75% chance of a cure on epilepsy, which would be life-changing for her.

Update on Jeffy.

I was at the hospital.

I left my daughter's hospital.

I went across town to Jeffy's hospital, where he just had a

gallbladder removed.

He had

gallbladder and something else.

that you never think of in your body was

involved.

I know so many of his organs have tried to escape.

It's interesting to see them removed.

This one was, yeah, this one was practically jumping out of his body.

Yeah.

And

I got the list of the things he can eat, and he's almost suicidal.

It's like, there's nothing on that

that now without your gallbladder, you are, well, you might like legumes

and nuts.

Don't confuse me.

It's a good person.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a horrible diet, but it'll be good for him.

It'll be good for him.

But he's in

good spirits, and I think that's the end of the hospital updates.

But please keep praying for everybody, and thank you so much for the prayers you've already offered.

Now,

Stu announced earlier this week that he is putting on a new show,

and the new show is Stu Does America.

It's like the daily show with Trevor Oliver, except funny.

John Oliver, I believe.

And he's also the Daily Show.

And also, I would.

Yeah, Trevor.

I mean, I meant Trevor Noah.

Trevor Noah.

Got it.

Trevor Burrus.

You're combining the two names.

Yeah,

I've blocked Trevor Noah's name and everything.

Wow, is that an unfunny show?

But it will air on Blaze TV and YouTube.

You just have to go subscribe to Stu's YouTube page, which is Stu DoesAmerica.

If you go to StuDoesAmerica.com, you'll get all the links there.

Okay, so just subscribe and you can watch it.

Also, podcasts.

You can get it if you listen to podcasts at all.

If you're listening to this as a podcast, please subscribe as well.

Okay.

And so tomorrow on my podcast, I'm doing something that we've never even considered and we've never even done

personally with each other.

And I took the podcast in 90 minutes, and I just interviewed Stu about

what his journey over the last 20 years with me.

This is the 20th anniversary of the the radio show this week, basically.

And yeah, we go over a lot of the big news stories.

If you remember, big stories that the show has been involved in, how the show kind of came together initially,

basically all the behind the scenes that you can think of.

Yeah, and we got to about half of it.

And it was an interesting conversation because I found myself.

Really curious about what Stu had to say because I had no idea.

We've done so many things like we were just talking about it off the air.

I have no idea what he was thinking or where he was or

anything outside of a decision-making meeting when we decided to go to Fox.

And we were talking about when we went to CNN.

None of us wanted to go.

We didn't want to do.

We thought that was a bad deal at first.

I went kind of against my will.

And Stu was really like, I don't want the cable news is not where we want to be.

Let's just be funny and yada, yada, yada.

And I don't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing that we went to cable news, but we did.

We did.

Here's a clip from the podcast that you'll be able to hear tomorrow anywhere you get your podcast.

But if you're a Blaze TV subscriber, you can get it right now.

It's a fascinating 90-minute look at the behind the scenes.

Here's what I asked Stu.

What did we learn?

What did you learn from CNN and that experience?

Listen to his answer.

What was the biggest thing you learned first from CNN?

Well, you know, it was interesting that we even got hired there.

I mean, I remember thinking there was no chance that was going to actually happen.

And they put us on, and I was, you know, they were.

I bought a house, if I'm not mistaken, before they made the offer.

Yes, I believe that's true.

We were happy about that, by the way.

That was really exciting for us.

That's the way every move happens.

Glenn makes, goes and buys a house before we lock it in, and then we're like, oh, well, now I guess we have to go.

I mean, you know, it's a home there.

Yeah, I mean, it was because there was some conflict internally, I think, at that point as to whether a cable news show was the right thing.

You know, I mean, the show was doing really well on radio.

We were growing quickly.

You were pretty well known.

And I remember thinking, like, gosh, really, like, cable news?

Like, we're going to go on there and do this thing that everybody, you know, that's what you're supposed to do.

We all hate it.

Yeah, none of us really liked the idea.

And I think, I think, you know, looking back in retrospect, incorrectly, because it was a way to, it really did change the level of your profile.

But we changed it.

Yeah, no, because we did something different.

And we knew we were going to do something different, and we weren't going to do it unless we could.

I didn't want to go in there and do the same old blah, blah, blah, talking heads type of thing.

So when we went into CNN, I mean, I remember doing

things

that were.

It helped shape my understanding of the media in a way I don't know that the audience necessarily always connects with.

And that like we would do things on the air that were really basic knowledge for the average talk radio listener.

You know, things that were like, okay, remember this quote from this guy, and you'd bring that up in passing.

And especially when we first started, we would get hit from standards and practices, which is like the branch of CNN.

This is interesting to me.

Most people

may not even know this or believe this, but I was on the floor and sometimes it would take us two or three hours to cut an hour-long show.

Yeah.

You should be able to cut an hour-long show in about 50 minutes.

It sometimes took us three hours to cut, and I was never privy to the stalls.

I would just be told, break down in the computer, you know, break down in the control room, this is happening, this is happening, don't worry, we'll catch it.

But you were actually in the control room with standards and practices, along with all the others in my staff

that worked for Mercury.

That was the smartest thing we did,

that

were having to have these battles.

Yeah, and they would be like on really basic things.

Like, we, you know, because on talk radio, like,

there, there's a, these certain things will become part of the conversation, and everyone sort of understands them.

You don't need to explain them every single time.

And we'd make points, and they would push back on them.

And I'm like, do you not know this?

Do you not know this person said this?

And that really

enlightened me into the way the media actually works because

a lot of times they don't know it.

I would, you know, I really think we should do a like a doc series

on just some of the things we've learned in the media because none of us have ever talked about it.

And I didn't realize it until this podcast.

Yeah.

And

what we all learned and what we all saw, I think, is, you know, it led me to the place where I said at the end of Fox, this whole place, meaning New York media, it's all going to burn down.

It's all going to burn down.

It's not real.

It's going to burn itself to the ground.

And that was one of my real feelings: we've got to get out of New York media.

But

we all learn so much that if the American people knew really what we have seen, each of us,

I think their understanding of

why you can't trust the people to repair themselves.

The media will never, ever repair itself.

It will never heal.

It won't turn the other direction and suddenly go, oh,

my gosh, I get it.

We're out of step with the American people.

It will never happen.

And I'm thinking about one

extensive, long

trial at CNN that involved one individual who was very, you know, very vocal in the building about how much they hated me.

You know who I'm talking about?

Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

I just did it a couple times.

I was at a couple meetings.

Well, and he's still here, and he's never going to change.

No, but thinking of that,

and once you know that piece of information,

it starts to unlock

how they're always going to behave.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know that anything I saw there at the time

would have led me to believe they would go as far as they've gone in the last couple of years.

No, especially the way they fought against me.

Yeah.

You know,

they were fighting against me because I was irrational and I wasn't based in fact and I didn't have.

When we were, we talk about in this special how much better CNN made us because they made us prove everything.

So when we got to Fox, we didn't need standards in practice.

It was so easy for us.

And

we were self-policing ourselves, which was a great, great advantage.

One of the weird things about going through that process and working at a CNN,

there are people that I absolutely loved that we worked with there and still do.

And it's amazing that you kind of see how this goes on, and it's easy to kind of think of

an organization like that as this monolithic.

There's a lot of people there, I guarantee it.

And some of them that I actually know for sure feel this way, that CNN has gone off their rocker recently, and

they don't look at it the same way.

And that is like, it is a, it's a weird thing because you think about this, a lot of times you see this with conservatives, and there's some like liberal who's saying, who leaves the organization and gets promoted by the media.

Those things don't necessarily happen the other way, but those people exist.

They're there.

And they're looking at this, even if they're not conservatives.

They're just like, this is crazy.

Like, what happened to us trying to actually bring the news and not bring an agenda?

You know, we went over the CNN app one day.

I went on there, and the first like 28 stories on their list were all things negative about Trump.

It's like, look, you might not like the guy.

You might think he's a bad president, but there's not another news story to cover in the entire world other than Donald Trump and things you think he did the wrong way.

That can't be the way that this has to be.

And that's not just us feeling that.

Those are people in those buildings feeling that way.

All right.

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Behind the scenes, 20 years of talk radio and my career with Stu.

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All exposed.

We should point out that we are fully closed in the episode.

That's you said exposed, not fully exposed.

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Speak for yourself, sister.

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