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We kind of started a little differently than I thought we would.

As soon as I opened up the mic today on the podcast, some stuff started spilling out.

Also, we have Cheryl Atkinson, who is a five-time Emmy Award winner, the

Edward R.

Murrow award winner several times.

They hate her now because, well, she investigated the truth during the Obama administration about

Benghazi and also Fast and Furious and others.

But then she said

that the government was spying on her.

And of course, we all know that's impossible

until she just filed another lawsuit.

Now she says she has five people who were part of it in the government.

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So we're going to get to Iran here in just a second.

Iran is,

it's quite amazing how the media seems to just be pushing all of this still.

In fact, let's play Allison Camerada from CNN.

Listen to what they're still doing.

Are you surprised that Soleimani's death seems to have united the people?

We saw something like a million people turn out on the street there to commemorate him.

Well, I would dispute the premise that it has united the people, certainly not on the streets of Iraq.

You would have to only believe Iranian state reporting to think that's true.

I hear you, but we have seen with our own eyes the crowds, the crowd size that did turn out for Soleimani's funeral.

did that surprise you?

Well, and in one of the enduring ironies of life, we now have the Iranian supreme leader talking about crowd sizes in his own country.

Just to be clear, are you saying you don't believe the video of the million people who turned out for his funeral?

No, I have no doubt there are many in Iran who are wailing at the death of Soleimani.

It is amazing to me how

we have a media and a Democratic Party that are so lost to the people.

I don't even recognize them anymore.

I don't think they recognize reality anymore.

They don't see.

Did you miss?

Even I saw this this weekend.

Did you miss all of the video of the people that are on the streets that are chanting death to Khomeini?

They don't want death to America.

Where were your cameras this weekend?

Where are you today?

Where is the media?

Where are the Democrats?

It's truly remarkable

how the Democrats have left, I think, even the Democrats behind.

The Democratic Party

has...

has left

the voters behind.

I don't know a single Democrat like this.

I don't know a single Democrat

who is in as much denial as the Democratic Party leadership

and

CNN and the other media sources.

I spent the weekend with people who should have been in denial and weren't.

On the toughest of things,

only to return to work and see the media in absolute denial.

Why?

Why?

What is it they're afraid of?

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I want to play this clip from Rashida Talib and just

ask,

as a mom, how's she doing?

Listen.

You know, my son Adam is literally my policy advisor.

I'm not joking.

If you ever met him, I mean, my team, everybody will tell you, it's like, oh, it's Adam speaking.

You know, he's a person, he's like, I'm so tired, mom, of people saying capitalism and socialism.

Why not peopleism?

You know?

He one time, I was in a meeting with chairwoman Maxine Waters and two other colleagues about pushing this amendment to stop fossil fuel investment, us, the government, stop investing in fossil fuels.

And he whispers to me, mom, can I have a piece of paper?

And of course he doesn't know how to whisper.

And I give him this piece of paper.

You know, he sometimes likes the sketch.

So I'm thinking he's drawing over there.

Before that meeting ended, he handed me the piece of paper.

I had posted it, and he said, Mom, you got to tell him.

He says, We only have until 2030.

Like, he was giving me these talking points.

And at the end of the meeting, I put it up and I share it to

Chairwoman Waters and my colleagues.

And she just smiled.

And I thought to myself, God, if we could just clear the room and sometimes put kids in the room.

Yes.

Wouldn't it be great?

Her kid believes that 2030 were done.

Is you're bragging about that?

What kind of hope does your child is your child growing up with?

What kind of hope do they have if they believe the world is over in 2030?

And by the way,

New Year's Day 2031,

what are they going to think of you?

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Cheryl Atkison is an investigative reporter.

She's the host of Full Measure with Cheryl Atkison.

And she joins us now.

Welcome to the program, Cheryl.

Why, thank you.

Thanks for having me.

Sure.

So everybody said, well, not everybody, the press made you look like a loon and a crazy person when you were reporting the facts on Benghazi.

And then I'll never forget the video that you took.

Maybe you were in a hotel room or something.

I can't remember exactly, but I remember you having on your phone tape of someone turning on your computer and I think deleting things from your computer.

Was that what was happening?

Well, that was way after the initial forensics and discovery of the government intrusion on a third computer.

Yes, while I was working, there was a remote access and hyper-quick deletion before my very eyes of something that is not possible to do by holding down a key yourself or anything like that.

And yes, Media Matters launched an effort to talk to a supposed forensics expert who's never looked at any of these computers who declared I was holding down my backspace key or that it was stuck and therefore none of the computer intrusion story was true and it was all just sort of made-up craziness.

I don't think it took hold as much as they hoped.

I mean, that was widely reported in the liberal press, but I do think most people understood we have and have the forensics that prove the government intrusion from the start.

And now, as you said, we have a federal agent former federal agent involved in the surveillance who has admitted being part of it and helped us with some information okay so tell me how that came about

how did you how did you get this how did this guy flip or this woman flip uh and and why

the lawsuit um that i fought for about six years at great expense with the government fighting every step of the way.

So I never got a page of discovery.

Was ultimately dismissed last year with the main judge, although there was a great dissenting judge who disagreed, but the main judge saying I should have the names of the agents, not just the forensic proof showing the government did it.

I needed to know the names of the people who were involved.

And we argued we can't do that unless we get discovery.

So it was this horrible loop.

But we put out sort of an all call for information because we were at a dead end if that's what was required.

And we were contacted by a number of people that had been vetted not by me, so I have limited information, but my attorneys have been researching and vetting people for four to five months.

And as for motivation, I don't know, except it could be, you know, these are shady characters involved in doing this.

You can imagine the federal agents who'd be willing to do illegal surveillance.

on lots of Americans according to this information, not just me.

That's all along why this was important.

It wasn't because of me.

But one of the people we name in the lawsuit is a former Secret Service agent who's in prison for other government corruption already.

So these are the kinds of people you're dealing with that you have to sort through the truth and sort through their information.

And my veters think that they have very good information now.

Will it be enough to convince the judge to let us open this case with the names?

I don't know.

So, Cheryl,

it would be kind of comforting to know that these were all rogue agents.

But do you believe that that is true?

Is that what the evidence is showing you, that these might be all rogue agents, or was there coordination?

There was, according to our information, coordination out of a sort of a task force, you could call it, run out of the U.S.

Attorney's Office in Baltimore at the time under then U.S.

Attorney Rod Rosenstein with a task force of people that included FBI, Secret Service,

contractors that were tasked sometimes to ATF, DEA, Secret Service, and FBI.

This is a group that, and I believe this is just my theory based on information I have from people who work on the inside, there are numerous dark groups that do work like this totally outside the FISA process.

I mean, people have asked whether FISA warrants should be approved, but we knew all along there was no FISA warrant on me.

I had sources that told me that.

So we knew all along that the spying on me was done outside the system entirely, sort of this extra-legal system

that happens,

yes, I believe, with the knowledge of important people inside the Department of Justice.

Therefore, Glenn, we're at this loggerheads where no matter what we know, even if the guys bring themselves in handcuffs to me or to the government, to the courts, if the Department of Justice doesn't want to hear it, doesn't want to prosecute themselves, it still goes nowhere unless there's, I guess, somehow enough public pressure for people to say do something.

So the the justice department i mean we've lost

we've lost justice and intelligence in this uh country in more ways than one but those two departments i think are really really screwed up uh they were

um

they were turning a blind eye uh at

at best But I think the corruption starts at the very, very top.

Is there any indication to you that any of this stuff, because I mean, Trump

is paying the price for this kind of corruption himself right now.

Is there any

clue that this stuff is going to be cleaned up?

Is there anybody that

is going to ride into the rescue here?

So far, sadly, no.

I mean, nothing has changed for us in fighting our lawsuit at Department of Justice between the Obama administration and the Trump administration.

The same people are still fighting it.

They don't seem to care about the forensics, which again, these are undeniable forensics.

It's not something you can dispute as to whether the government's software and the government's IP addresses were involved.

They're still fighting it instead of doing the obvious, which they should say, boy, this is serious.

We need to get to the bottom of who may have done this.

They're, you know, in essence, covering up and obstructing.

And I don't know what to do about that except to say that, in my view, there are still people in important places that don't want things like this to come to light.

And I think that's in part because,

as I said, this is way bigger than just the surveillance on me.

Who cares about that other than me?

But this was done, we believe, and our information says, on hundreds of innocent U.S.

citizens and other journalists.

I just happen to have the Intel contacts to get the forensics exam and prove it.

So tell me exactly what they were doing to you and what you think they might be doing to others.

They were around March of 2011

surveilling me, ATF agents who were involved in exposing the illegal, fast, and furious operation that the government had denied at first, moving weapons into a sovereign nation of Mexico into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

And they were ineffectively monitoring everything I did on my computer through government software proprietary only to the U.S.

government intelligencies that we see in our computer, in my computers, while I was at CBS.

So they could monitor all my keystrokes.

They got into the CBS program.

CBS announced this, by the way.

There's not any disputing this, that, you know, the programs were, their computers were infiltrated, not just my forensics, but we hired a separate forensics team at CBS that confirmed the intrusions.

And they were able to use Skype.

You know, I don't use Skype anymore because I didn't know at the time.

It can be activated silently by government or government software.

They can listen in on what your conversations are without you knowing it and they can exfiltrate file through Skype which they did they had which means they can go in which means they can go in and take files that you have on your computer that are not related to Skype and take them without you knowing

right they could remotely operate my computer at any given time you know they can set up an operation where they can access it as if they were sitting at your computer i mean all kinds of things and basically wanting to know I assume, what I was working on, what I was about to report, and most importantly, what Obama officials or administration folks were talking to me and giving me the information that I was using to break stories with.

Who do you think this affects in the real world?

What I think some people may miss about all of this is

If they are, there were three classified documents planted in my computer as well.

Planted?

Wait a minute.

What do you mean, planted in your computer?

The forensics show that deep in my operating system in a place I didn't even know existed, because I don't know that much about computers, there were government classified documents that I didn't put there.

So the conclusion was that someone obviously put them there.

Are they trying to frame somebody for having supposedly given them to me so they could take action against an insider?

I mean, who knows why they did that?

But to all the people who say, I don't care if the government listens to me, and I do hear this because I don't do anything wrong.

I don't have anything in there.

Well, imagine the mischief that can occur if the government's not on your side or if there are bad actors inside the government who are willing to do bad things, you know, to make you look guilty or to make it seem like you've done something.

There's other information that's not in the complaint yet that's very chilling.

that I don't want to talk about yet for legal reasons, but this kinds of stuff they were allegedly doing to me and other Americans would just, you know, it's even more chilling than what I've described.

So we should all be concerned.

And when do you file that?

Well, the complaint is filed.

We'll get details and depositions and subpoenas and all of those things if this case is allowed to move forward.

And that's where I think a lot more information comes out.

How can the average person get involved and help in this if they want to, Cheryl?

Well, I think if this had been paid more attention to as well as some other red flags, we wouldn't have had the 2016 abuses.

This is really important.

If these things aren't resolved, we're just going to expect more of the same.

So I would say, can you

tell the Trump administration, the Justice Department, tweet, say publicly, whatever you can do, don't sweep it under the rug.

Don't let it be swept under the rug.

Investigate this Baltimore task force that was conducting, allegedly conducting surveillance on hundreds of Americans and journalists and government whistleblowers and so on.

You know, don't let it go away, regardless of what happens to my individual case.

It's just too important.

Cheryl, thank you.

Keep us up to speed on this, and thank you for all you're doing.

And I know what it's like to fight the government.

And I don't think the average person, I mean, my eyes were

opened to a new reality when

I had to fight a lawsuit and the government

had all of the information.

And I happened to have been passed all of the information, but the court wouldn't accept it

unless it came from the government, and the government wouldn't release it.

And, I mean,

when they decide you're done, you're done.

Right.

And they have unlimited tax money.

I do have some advocates that have started.

on GoFundMe, a Fourth Amendment litigation fund, Cheryl Atkinson.

That's the only way.

I mean, I'm still like deep in a hole, but they have spent millions of taxpayer dollars obstructing this.

They can go on forever.

You know, they can just do as much as it takes.

That's the sad part.

They can print money.

You can't.

Cheryl, thank you very much.

Thank you.

You bet.

Investigative reporter Cheryl Atkinson,

who has been under the thumb of the government for quite some time.

This is stuff that if we don't stop it now,

we don't stop it.

And we become Mexico or Russia.

And there are people, I can guarantee you, there are people on both sides of the aisle that don't mind this stuff.

Because, yeah, they'll not use it for bad.

It's just the other side.

They've got to use it to stop the other side.

I'm telling you: if we don't stop this stuff, if we don't investigate, if we don't clear our intelligence and justice department, we don't make it and we become a very, very dark state.

this is the best of the Glen Beck program

like listening to this podcast if you're not a subscriber become one now on iTunes and while you're there do us a favor and rate the show Last Thursday I met with a good friend of mine man my Thursday really kind of sucked

I do this podcast with a friend.

I find out in the podcast that

he had died on the operating table.

I knew that he had some problems.

I didn't know he had died on the operating table.

And find this out in the middle of this amazing podcast.

He just, he wrote a book called Love Yourself like Your Life Depends on It.

And

I think his life did depend on it.

And what he learned, I mean, he he had already written this book, but he used what he wrote in this book to pull himself back from the darkness.

It's quite amazing.

Listen to this part of the podcast.

I went through some really traumatic surgery three months ago,

and I was basically dead.

And where I bled to death, I was spraying blood everywhere.

After surgery, after I was leaving the hospital, artery burst and I was spraying blood on everyone and basically bled to death and they had to grab me and shove me into an operating room and slash me open and go fix it

to save my life.

And literally, it was that close.

And so when I got out of the hospital, I was in an insane amount of pain because when your blood fills up enough that it bursts out of your body, you know, it's not pretty, right?

Oh, I can't imagine.

It's like an oil well, you know, coming out of you.

I can't imagine.

And you don't want to either.

Sorry for the details.

It's pretty freaky.

And I was in,

I didn't know pain like this could exist.

You know, like the level of pain I was in, because it was also in the lower abdominal area.

There's a lot of nerves there.

And so I was on, you name it, every kind of narcotic they gave me.

You know, in the hospital, it was ulcerated IVs and pills and that.

When I got out, the surgeon said to me, I had multiple surgeons.

One of them said, like, look, if there's anyone who qualifies for these drugs, it's you.

You know, so don't worry, we'll keep giving you enough.

We just have to call in prescriptions every time because of new laws.

And a week into it, and you know, let me tell you, they're nice.

They indulge the pain.

They kind of make you not care you're just lying there and also you're lying there incapacitated at home and I realized a week into it I went off cold turkey just cold turkey why

because I turned in this manuscript for this book before I had gone to the surgeries expecting a basic elective surgery I'll be out and now the publisher was sending me the the final proofs with the copy edits and if and as you know

When you're a writer, you care about every word and you want your words to be there, not the copy editor's word.

And I was looking at the material and realizing my mind wasn't there.

If I was on these drugs, I couldn't give my all to this book.

And so it was like I realized, look, this was purpose.

And that was that was bigger than pain.

I would deal with pain, forget the drugs.

I need to be clear because I have purpose.

And I think and I realized looking at times in my life when when I had when I struggled with when I was just like, okay, I'm gonna go

I thought I was playing with drugs.

You think you're playing.

You think you're stronger than them.

That's also a very interesting thing.

I always thought I was stronger at it.

It won't destroy me.

I'm different.

I'll do it for a little while.

I'll get out of it.

No one will ever know.

And no one ever really did, honestly.

But with the grace of God, here am I, because I tried them all and there's dangerous stuff out there.

And I think I was trying to destroy myself.

But those are the times where I think I didn't have purpose, where I was drifting.

But if you have purpose, purpose, if you have a vision, if you have something you move towards that you think is bigger than you, for me, that's putting this book out to the world, this book is so important, it's bigger than me.

It belongs to the world.

Whereas me, I'm going to be here for a certain amount of time.

I almost left.

I may leave again.

But the book, but the book was more important.

So

I had purpose.

And I think with addiction, I've talked to some friends about it who've been through it, but you know, we're talking about, who've dealt with it.

And it's like usually they were able to beat addiction when they found something bigger than them.

People can find faith.

People can find something family.

People can find something, you know, whatever.

But it's got to be bigger than you.

Let me tell you that I know this to be true.

When I met with Billy Graham, he said to me after I said, what?

Where is Abraham Lincoln?

Where's the next George Washington?

Where's the next Billy Graham?

And he said, I think God's done with the superstars.

He said, he wants the credit.

And he said, everybody is born for a reason.

Everybody is here right now and everybody is hearing what they're supposed to do, but so many might dismiss it.

So many might think it's impossible or they'll look for another way to do it or they will look for someone to help them and they'll be frustrated because they think they're supposed to complete it when all they're really supposed to do is do exactly what they were meant to do.

That purpose exists for all of us right now.

We're all here for a reason.

And

there are ways now to connect like never before.

I got something from a friend of mine who

our daughters are contemporaries.

They're friends.

They went to school together.

They're

They're 13.

She's 13, this girl, Ava Mayberry.

She's 13 years old.

Same age as my daughter.

And you want to talk about everybody has something they're supposed to do.

Mark, her dad, sent this to me last week, and I've had it on repeat for the last few days because, boy, I really needed it.

And I realized you might really need this.

We're supposed to look for connections and just do what we're supposed to do.

So let me do what I'm supposed to do today.

This is a 13-year-old girl.

She was discovered by somebody on YouTube recently and

said, Can you come to Nashville?

And the parents,

my friends,

picked up their house and moved to Nashville.

And

he just sent me this song by his 13-year-old daughter.

listen.

Just tell me, do you visit Nashville?

Let me take this chance to clarify.

When I asked you if you care if I If I had a crowd to sing to a voice that's mine A face on a bell but a name on the top line

This ain't the same old prayer that I usually say

Things just got real today

I need to know it'll be okay

This ain't the same old prayer that I usually say

But here I go anyway

Hear me pray,

I'm scared to think.

I like my room and I love my friends.

The cue poles in the driveway now.

But in my larger, it's all just crashing first.

Dear God, it's me again.

Ask him, please.

Make one in one, three just in time.

Turn my water into wine.

Make me internet on time.

Pretty and rhyming.

in.

This ain't the same old prayer that I usually say.

Things just got real today.

Need to know it'll be okay.

This ain't the same old prayer that I usually say.

But here I go anyway.

Near the prayer.

Lord, if it all goes well,

help me remember where I came from.

And if I fail even more,

Lord, stay with me because I'm still

your little girl.

Keep me close

and bless my brother.

See you in the morning.

Amen.

This ain't the same

prayer.

I need you.

Oh,

help me, please.

Lift me up, lift me up.

Say, my prayer.

I need you,

I need you, I need you.

This ain't the same.

This ain't the same.

Many, many, many.

We are

all the same, just in different places, struggling with many of the same things.

This ain't the same old prayer that I usually say, because things got real today.

I found myself saying that this weekend.

You're listening to the best of the Glendeck program.

Steve Dace joins us now from the frozen tundra.

Welcome to the program, Steve.

Morning, guys.

How are you?

Well, better than you are.

We're not in Iowa.

But neither is Corey Brooke Booker.

He's dropped out.

Just happened.

This is

the headline of a tree falls in the forest.

Yeah, Exactly right.

Exactly right.

He hasn't been relevant in this race for months, and

we could have multiple conversations why they would all be uncomfortable.

So let's just say it's the same.

A lot of it has to do with why Black Lives Matter is here in Iowa protesting Pete Buttigig as we speak.

And tell me about that.

Well, you've got a confluence of events here, Glenn.

And, you know, I've worked in

ministerial cooperation between black and white churches here in Iowa

and organizing people of different racial persuasions for common local political causes in the past.

So I have a limited amount of experience with this, but it's far more experience than most whiteys have.

And the reality is that

I don't know how else to put it, so I'll just put it very bluntly.

Black America is just not down with the charge of the white envelopers brigade.

They're just not down with it.

And some of it

is the influence of the black church.

If you go look at marriage amendments across the country, I mean, if you look at the way the marriage amendment performed in California, winning there,

if you look at how it overperformed Mitt Romney in states like Maryland in 2012 and the election there, it's always with huge, overwhelming black voter support.

So that's number one.

The other reason is you have a

hierarchical rivalry here where on the intersectionality meter,

sexual behavior has replaced racial politics atop the food chain, the intersectionality food chain.

And so for a more leftist secular group like Black Lives Matter, that's a major issue where they're in the back of the pardon the expression, they're in the back of the Democrat Party bus right now.

And then on the same day that the Supreme Court did its first decision in favor of so-called gay marriage, that same week it voted, it got rid of the Voting Rights Act of 1964.

And so you've got this tug of war going on in the left between these two groups.

And Pete Buttigig Buttigig is right at the epicenter of this.

And that's why you're seeing he has zero black support in states like South Carolina.

That's because of the black church there.

And in Iowa, that's why you see Black Lives Matters as coming here.

It's because he represents a special interest group that has replaced them in the left hierarchy.

Do you see any reason?

Steve, you know, the Corey Booker thing is fascinating to me in that like the media seemed to really love him.

They kept saying what a great job he was doing in these debates.

And now,

I'm not in the graphic here of Democratic voters, so maybe I'm missing things, but I always found him to be very creepy and strange.

But it didn't seem like anybody ever gave him a shot here.

And as you point out, in these sort of intersectionality Olympics that are going on, the Democratic Party, they're all saying they want more diverse candidates, but they all seem to be voting for anyone but.

Everybody wants diversity if it's their version of diversity.

And the thing with Corey Booker is

if he were a candy bar, it would be called whatchamacallit.

There have been rumors about his sexuality, about his personality, about all kinds of things.

And I think the fact that he just didn't satisfy, check any particular box

in any of those components is why he committed the cardinal sin of politics.

And that is the number one thing every politician has to do first and foremost is you have to build a base.

It can be a small and devoted one.

It can be a big one.

But you need a base that provides you the infrastructure to grow as a candidate, both from a support mechanism and then a word of mouth mechanism and then a legitimacy mechanism.

And he just never did that.

He was sort of a cornucopia candidate.

And he never satisfactorily, for a lot of people, addressed the issues of his sexuality.

He says he has a girlfriend named Rosario Dawson, the actress, but you've never seen them together.

He's never addressed that.

He doesn't really address racial issues all that much,

except in the one debate with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

Did it actually better?

It's just, you know, what is he?

What was he as a candidate?

What base in this party did he represent?

And the answer turned out to be none of them.

Let me go to your predictions

for the election.

They're pretty bold.

In fact, because they're so specific.

You say, prediction

in your top 10, number eight, four different people will win the first four states in the Democratic presidential primary to set a free-for-all for the nomination it's never happened before explain it that's yeah that's never happened before there's a couple times you've had people three different people win the first three states that happened in 2012

on the Republican side but I I just think you have a situation and this latest Iowa poll that came out from the register speaks to this in that you've got no candidate has really ironed out alone a base except for one Pete Buttigig, which is the white Subaru driving coexist bumper sticker having suburban cul-de-sac litter.

Okay.

And

if you want to know how many of those that are in Iowa, that's Pete Buttigig's base.

He has no other base anywhere else in the state of Iowa.

That's his base.

So just a bunch of white suburbanites that want you to know that I don't folks.

So they're voting for guilt.

But for the other candidates that can actually win this nomination, they're splitting each other's factions.

And when you have that, you're going to have a free-for-all.

You know, I think that you look at Joe Biden.

His number one argument is electability.

Well, if you're going to finish third or fourth in Iowa, I mean, what does that do to your electability argument?

I do think when we get one of the problems all the other candidates have is they don't have any substantive black support in this party.

And while black voters do not make up the percentage of voters in the Democratic side, white evangelicals do on the Republican side, it's really difficult to get to a majority of Democrat voters without black support.

He's the the only one that has them.

So in this crazy year, if my predictions sound nuts, consider this.

The oldest looking sounding white guy in the race who comes across incompetent most days is the only one who has really any black support.

So there you go.

Okay.

And if he can just stay alive, if he can get to those, to South Carolina and all those southern states that come in on Super Tuesday, he could certainly win enough of those.

It wouldn't give him the nomination, but it would keep him alive to a convention.

And then then I think whoever emerges from those first four states between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, whoever cancels the other out is going to win California.

And if you've got Joe Biden winning the old Democratic Party, and you have Bernie Sanders and/or Elizabeth Warren winning the current Democratic Party, that is the prescription for a brokered convention.

So you have Pete Buttigieg winning Iowa, Bernie Sanders, New Hampshire, Elizabeth Warren, Nevada, and then Biden in South Carolina.

And I still think even though Butigij's numbers have dipped quite a bit in that Iowa poll, the reason he could possibly still win is how strong Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are.

And we talked last week, I talked about the fact that Elizabeth Warren's dipping, then when they get into that caucus room and they start straw-polling each other, those leftists huddle together like, hey,

we either hang together or we hang separately here.

One of these guys or gals has got to go.

Well, if they both go in there with a reasonable chance expectation of winning, it's going to be really difficult to have that kind of a conversation.

And I could see the socialists or the Soviets, because they're both socialists, Freudia Slip.

I could see the Soviets

and the more softer side of Sears' version that Elizabeth Warren represents kind of canceling each other out.

And then I could see a Pete Butticig with 19, 20, 21, 22% eking out a small victory here.

So that would have to be his scenario.

It's interesting, Steve, because what you described with the first four states is the dream scenario of one Michael Bloomberg, who is currently running basically unopposed in the Super Tuesday states and throwing a quarter of a billion dollars at that.

If this comes together, does he make a dent?

Does he win a couple of these states?

He doesn't represent either Democratic Party.

I think Michael Bloomberg's long-term game here is he is trying, I think he's game planning that this thing goes all the way to Milwaukee.

And they have to come out of here with,

and you have to understand, Bloomberg comes from this old political model.

40% of people are Republicans, 40% are Democrats, and elections are won by the 20% in the middle.

And Barack Obama and social media wrecked all of that.

National elections are now determined by who can frame the battlefield for the most max-based turnout.

Mitt Romney is the first candidate ever to win independence in 2012 and lose an election.

So that model is antiquated, but I think he's operating on that model.

And he's going by, hey, they got to come out of a convention with some kind of compromise candidate, and maybe that could be me.

And you say that there's going to be a move at the convention to nominate Michelle Obama as the compromise candidate.

Yeah, she's the most logical name.

But, you know, you don't leave a 70,000 square foot palatial estate that went to Martha's Vineyard or whatever they didn't just bought in order to get in order to get called

trashy Michelle by Trump on Twitter for three months.

You're not doing that.

So I think that'll be the fantasy of several on cable news networks and within the leftist intelligentsia.

And it will be entertained there quite heavily.

But I don't think that she will, she's going to come off the bench and take that kind of a beating.

Because right now, she can say whatever she wants, do whatever she wants, make as much money as she wants, and have none of the daily grind of actually being a candidate.

So

when she's not the candidate, you believe it will be?

I think it'll be Bernie Sanders, because if you go to a brokered convention, there's two ways you win there, guys.

One way is you're everybody's second safe choice.

There isn't one of those in this race.

There's nobody everybody else looks at and says, all right, I guess we can handle that.

And so if you're not going to win with a second safe choice, then it's triumph of the will, if you get the analogy reference I'm making.

And you win with a hammer and a sickle and an iron face, an iron fist, and you scare the hell out of the system with a mobocracy.

You know, if you look at Wisconsin, that's where a lot of the modern leftist mobocracy that we have come to know today was born, going after Scott Walker.

That base of people is still there.

That is a native tongue to Bernie Sanders as an Olinskiite.

And so I think you scare the Democrats to death with, we're going to make Chicago 68 look like it's a small world after all, okay, when it's closed, or you give us the nomination.

And so since they don't have a logical second candidate, that would be a rallying point for the various constituencies in their confederacy, then I think it becomes

a mobocracy game.

And I can't see anybody edging Bernie Sanders out where that's concerned.

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So here's where your predictions get a little

interesting, more specific, and frightening a bit.

First, you say that Sanders is going to name a vice presidential candidate that will not be from the middle.

No, he won't.

And, you know, I do these predictions for our sites every year.

And in 2016, I correctly predicted Hillary Clinton was going to nominate Tim Kaine because

that's that's in her nature.

Find a swing state.

She wants to really be a Wellesley College for she wants to be Elizabeth Warren, but in the end, she's really a broad-burning technocrat.

She wants to win more than anything else.

So go find a nice-looking senator from a swing state and put him on the ticket.

You have to go with candidates' nature.

If you're Bernie Sanders and you conquer the Democratic Party, you're not even a registered Democrat, and you conquer this party and you conquer them at the convention, the last thing you're going to do is go get some

middle-of-the-road congressman from Indiana to balance the ticket.

No, no, you've come this far.

You're not showing restraint now.

You're going to plant the flag.

And so I think he goes for intersectionality with Catherine Cortez Matos out of Grevada, who is essentially Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's grandmother, for lack of a better description, and a former left-wing trial lawyer, attorney general.

She's from a swing state that just swung over.

That's the one state.

You know, we had all these warning signs of early voting amongst Hispanics and swing states in 2016 and how that was going to doom trump and it never came to fruition except in one state and that one state is in nevada that's the one swing state that tipped because of an early surge of of hispanic voting and i think you see brittany sanders double down from there uh

now you say the deep state doubles down because they see this is this is a free-for-all

Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy guy.

I used to be when I was a kid, and then I realized human nature is often given too much credit.

I'm also, though, not a huge fan of just ignoring what I'm actually seeing in front of my face, Glenn.

And we have watched the last couple of years, you know, marauding rapist hoaxes for Supreme Court justices, collusion hoaxes, Ukrainian call hoaxes, hoax, hoax, hoax.

The guy in Iran, you know, Salami, whatever the hell his name is,

you know, venerated and revered.

And so if you're going to go this far, And

the generic process produces the American Jeremy Corbin.

And you know, that guy's not going to win a general.

I don't know when you've been willing to use the levers of government with your thumb on the scale from behind the scenes, and there are willing media platforms that are going to let you do it out there on the left.

I don't know why you'd hold up now.

So, I think, like, those bureaucrats that came out and testified at the impeachment hearing, whose grounds for impeachment really was I didn't like Trump's foreign policy, I think you're going to see them just like openly now leak secrets, openly leak sources, openly attempt to

sabotage American foreign policy.

And I wouldn't be shocked if you saw the Federal Reserve in the third quarter of this year attempt to put its thumb on the scale economically unless you see a slowdown.

Because

if you're going to go this far in trying to discredit an administration and the people it appoints,

right when the American people are potentially about to give it another four years, I don't know why you'd suddenly decide, you know what, maybe we should let the people rule after all.

I don't think that's human nature either.

And even though you call for even more turmoil than what you just said, your number one prediction is Trump wins.

Trump's going to win because the Democratic Party learned, well, there's two reasons he's going to win.

The economy.

We just don't get rid of presidents when the economy is going this well.

That's historic.

Number two is the Democrats, the left in America spent, and I'm guessing you got these calls too, when they called people who were on the right, who were real conservatives and hesitant to support Trump four years ago.

They called a bunch of us.

I was on the McNeil Lair news hour, for goodness sakes, the day after the election.

Just

one example.

Wanting to know what did we miss?

What did we miss?

They spent about 48 hours of self-reflection and then they decided, like John Lithgow says in the new Pet Cemetery movie, the ground is bad.

They decided the American people are bad.

And so I don't think there's any self-awareness forthcoming at all.

And they're just going to nominate their own Jeremy Corbin.

Agree.

Agree with you.

All right, Steve.

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