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It looks more and more like Iran either accidentally or on purpose shot down that Ukrainian airliner the other night, killing all 176 on board.

So, so bizarre.

I mean mean, didn't you suspect that though from the very from the very beginning because it was just too weird that all those missiles were launched and then coincidentally a plane just crashes into ran did not seem possible didn't no it didn't it did not seem possible uh you know if you're in the middle of a of a six to eight hour buffet binge

and then you have a a terrible case of heartburn i guess you could have had the heartburn anyway anyway but it just seems really unlikely seems like the binge might have brought it on.

Yeah, that's usually the way that works.

Yeah, and of course, Iran is denying it.

They called us

big liars.

Our pants are on fire.

I think they also said pants on fire.

Yeah, they said nana na nana as well in an official statement from the AI Tolo.

Yeah, strange.

You know, one thing that's interesting about us being liars is the video.

Multiple videos from multiple different areas of missiles striking planes and then bringing them to the ground.

I thought that was some pretty good evidence, but Iran saying no, no, it's not quite enough.

It's incredible and really sad

because these people had nothing to do with what's going on.

And, you know, even the U.S.

is saying it was probably accidental, which nobody would ever give us the benefit of the doubt on that if it if it involved us and we shot down some airliner.

Nobody would say, well, they did it accidentally.

But that's actually what American officials are saying.

That's what President Trump is saying about Iran.

And that seems to be the intelligence from all over the world.

Canada, Europe.

Everybody seems to agree that this was a missile and likely was a mistake.

Now, you never know with these things because a mistake, it could be a mistake essentially from the regime in that they didn't intend to shoot down a plane, but some person who was on the ring of anti-aircraft weaponry around the city and one person deciding this was either a threat or screw these people I'm taking that thing down that could all that that's in a way intentional right they're trying to do it doesn't necessarily mean that it was a the position of the of the country right maybe they or maybe they confused the airline with somebody else yeah maybe they thought it was American who knows who knows uh but I'm sure eventually over time we'll we'll get that figured out that's but it's not surprising because Iran apparently was in possession of the black box from the plane, one of them, and they wouldn't turn it over.

So there must be a reason for that.

Well, first of all, they wouldn't turn over the black box.

Second of all, I believe it was ABC

got footage of the crash area the day after the crash.

Nothing there.

Now, that's not how you investigate

an aircraft

barreling into the ground and exploding.

the pieces are there.

You know how meticulous they are with these things.

They'll sit there and they'll investigate that for months.

They'll look at every single piece.

They'll catalog it all.

Instead, they're just like,

bulldoze that field over there.

And hopefully no one notices.

I mean, it's blatantly obvious that this happened.

But, you know, what do you expect, right?

No one expects anything more out of Iran.

I expect, I thought, a little bit more out of U.S.

officials who are running to social media accounts to try to tweet how Trump was responsible for Iran shooting down a plane.

Because, you know,

he

started this chaotic time, Pat.

And you can't expect a country to not fire against, you know, commercial airlines when

it's a chaotic time.

That's obviously Trump's fault.

And by the way, we should all remember that Trump was responding.

Taking this guy out

was not a first move by the United States.

Iran

had just killed a U.S.

citizen.

They were in the middle of these protests that were arranged by this particular guy, Suleimani.

And there are reports of potentially an imminent threat against U.S.

positions.

designed by this guy who now sadly is not around to tell us about it.

So this was not a first strike by the U.S.

This is this is a strike that was in,

you know, both defensive and in response to an attack by Iran.

And we're sick of it.

We've made this, we've decided to do something here.

And sometimes doing something makes people nervous, but we've decided to say, you know what?

We're no longer going to play this game where we act like your proxies are not you.

We're no longer going to say, you know what, it's,

oh, gosh, gosh, those, those militia groups, let's pretend as if we don't know they were directed by Iran.

Let's pretend.

And let's pretend the IEDs didn't come from Iran.

Yeah.

Let's just step back and just forget and pretend, because that's really been our position for

forever.

Yeah.

All through the Barack Obama years, for sure, and maybe even through some of George W.

Bush's years.

Yeah.

We just ignored it.

We just let it go.

I mean, we talked about a whole bunch of different things that have happened over the last, certainly

the last 20 years and even the last 40 years that have all come from Iran, and we've done nothing about it until now.

And now we're wrong to respond to any of it?

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

It's like the Democrats are working for the Iranian regime.

I mean,

they spew their propaganda for them.

Yeah, I mean,

at least if nothing else, it seems like trying to take Trump down is more important to them

than A, the truth about this incident, and B, the danger that is Iran.

I mean, they don't seem to, they seem to be much more concerned about a Republican being president than any of those things.

Here's one of the Democrats blaming President Trump in part for the shooting down of

the plane the other night.

If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the President of the United States.

Well, is this type of miscalculation, let's say, on the part of the Iranians more likely now to result in even heightened tensions?

I would say that the continued saber, excuse me, the continued saber-rattling by the President

doesn't help us.

I also feel strongly that by taking out General Soleimani, that that did not somehow rid us of any of the planning that the Iranians would be doing or that the Shia militia that is throughout the region

is also engaged in doing.

And we also have the leader of the Shia militia who was assassinated as well that may be the subject of some efforts to seek revenge.

So her most important point there was that it's Donald Trump's fault.

That's incredible.

That's playing right into the hands of the Iranian regime to me.

And it's triple incredible because it's Jackie Spire.

Right.

I mean, Jackie Spire is, she was

in Jonestown.

If you don't know, she was the one that went to Jonestown with

a, she was working for a congressman at the time.

And this is where, you know, 900 plus people died

by drinking the, and

I'm going to get get this right.

The flavorade.

It was not the guy who crashes through your walls in a giant glass.

It wasn't a lot of people.

It was not Kool-Aid.

Do you imagine this?

All of these years, they've been saying, drink the Kool-Aid.

It was FlavorAid.

It was a rip-off Kool-Aid thing.

I didn't even know.

Kool-Aid gets the blame.

It's unfair.

And I'm standing up for the guy that goes, oh, yeah, when he comes through the wall, because it was not his fault.

But Jackie Spire was there.

She watched her boss get murdered, right?

And

judging by her logic here, he was responsible for the incident because he's the one that started off this chaotic situation where he went over there and visited and tried to rescue all of these people.

Instead, a terrible incident happens where murderers wind up murdering a bunch of people.

Is that Jackie's fault?

Because I've never considered it her fault.

I've never considered it her boss's fault.

It's not, it's the fault of the people who, who actually do the things.

This is such a difficult thing for America to grab their arms around these days when it comes down to a shooting or or it comes down to a situation like this.

We have to find somebody else that fits into our worldview to blame instead, like, oh, it's guns, it's gun manufacturers, it's this, it's this.

No, it's the person who's responsible for the act.

Iran is responsible for killing this group of 176 people, period.

And you got Pete Buttichech implying that the U.S.

is sharing the blame with Iran for shooting down the airliner.

I mean,

this is a guy who is running for president who's also trying to pin the blame on us.

Wow.

Buddha Judge said innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of an unnecessary and unwanted military tit-for-tat.

My thoughts are with the families and loved ones.

I love that.

It's just this, look, they just were caught in the crossfire.

No, they shot down an airliner.

That is different than being caught in the crossfire.

It indicates that, like, oh, well,

a missile flying towards something else happened to hit something.

We weren't shooting at anybody at the time.

There was no crossfire.

There was only fire.

There's only fire.

No, it was coming from Iran.

Which is, by the way, been the situation

this entire time.

This entire time, Iran has been taking out U.S.

soldiers in Iraq.

With its IEDs, it's been some rockets.

It's been all sorts of different things.

But we know this guy, Sulaimani, is responsible for 600 of them himself.

600

U.S.

soldiers.

And we have one of the two major parties out there acting as if it was wrong to take him out.

I don't think there's any question.

Is it morally justifiable what we did with Suleimani?

Yes.

Is it legally justifiable?

Absolutely yes.

The only question was, and I think some people had, there's a very small slice of America who actually just had honest questions was like, crap, is this going to blow up into something that we don't want to deal with?

And that's a legitimate question and one I'm sure Donald Trump seriously considered before deciding to pull the trigger on this.

You know, that is a big part of it.

Even when it is morally justifiable and legally justifiable, do you want to deal with the blowback?

The decision of Donald Trump for the past two years and Barack Obama for eight years before that and George W.

Bush before that was no, right?

Like we don't want to, we don't want to make that, we don't want to deal with that pushback.

So let's all pretend as if these things aren't happening and try to just minimize them.

And Trump has changed that calculus, and it's changed the calculus for Iran.

That doesn't mean that some of these groups might still do crazy things.

But now you have to realize if you're Iran, it's your job to keep these groups in line.

Because if they do things

without your knowledge even, we're going to think it's you.

And that message being communicated to Iran pretty with a big exclamation point in the form of an explosion, I think is pretty effective.

Very.

And And it was obviously proxies that they were using at the embassy that precipitated this attack on Solimani.

So, yeah, we have sent a really strong message that even if this is your proxies, we're coming after you for it.

That's a powerful statement.

And they,

we've said for years that people in the Middle East respond to strength.

They don't respond well to weakness.

They think that's the green light for them to go ahead and attack you even more.

But now they've seen strength, and I think that's going to act as a deterrent.

I think it's pretty obvious that, you know, with the lobbying the 15 missiles into U.S.

air bases that really hit nothing,

that shows you that they're taking this pretty seriously and they understand some of the ramifications for this.

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You know, lately, there is never a shortage of topics to talk about.

And Bill O'Reilly joins us now to get us up to speed on what's going on this week.

Mr.

O'Reilly, welcome to the program.

Stu and Pat, did you guys ever hit in the 60s?

Hey, Paula.

We did.

We did.

That was us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

One of my favorites.

That's pretty good.

Yeah, it's been a long time.

I'm glad somebody remembers our hit song.

Bill, I mean, it's been a crazy week.

You know, I don't know where to start.

Let's start with Iran.

What what what is the media not telling us about this situation?

Global warming is responsible.

That's what the media isn't telling you.

Uh Soleimani, the terrorist general, so hot over there, he lost his mind, ordered the attack of the American embassy in Baghdad, two consecutive days of Shiite militia under the orders of Soleimani,

terrorizing our embassy.

Then they caught him at the airport, U.S.

Intel,

and they smoked them.

So that's what happened.

And you then

bring it over to the United States where there are two things going on.

Number one,

that most people have no idea what the Quds force is or where only 28% of Americans in a survey taken this week could actually pinpoint where Iran is on a map when given the map and an outline.

They didn't fill in the country's names, but they said, here's the map of the Middle East.

Where's Iran?

28% of Americans could do it.

So I'd say the frame of reference of our people here, not the best.

And then you combine that with the hate Trump movement, whereas anything

President Trump does is bad and evil.

But if you're president, so if you're sitting there and the U.S.

Embassy, which is American property, it's American soil, is attacked and then you know the guy did it

is in a certain place, you don't do anything to him?

Is that what we're looking at now?

Apparently it is.

There's Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, even Biden, Biden dancing as he usually does.

But man, no, you know, you can't do that.

You got to let him just attack the embassy.

And I'm saying to myself,

what is going on?

Excuse me.

What is happening to this country?

Because that wouldn't have even been debatable even five years ago.

Even Barack Obama, as soft as he was,

would have retaliated against the general that ordered an attack on an American embassy.

So

we are.

Bill, we have a big,

I think a big change.

I mean, today's Glenn's 20th anniversary of doing this program, which is crazy.

And about half of that time back in history, I remember one morning waking up and seeing the news that Osama bin Laden had been killed.

And this was not a moment where...

right-wing media came out and started criticizing Barack Obama.

It was a moment that we celebrated as a country together

as a wonderful thing.

This terrible person who was killing Americans was gone.

And that does not seem to be present at all with this.

Who is the only member of the Obama cabinet that advised against the Pakistani raid by the SEALs?

Was it Joe Biden?

Joe Biden, yeah.

Joe Biden.

Yeah.

He said it was the most difficult decision in 500 years, which I never understood.

I didn't know what was that.

I mean, that's why Trump is salivating about whether it's Biden.

It's not going to be the socialists.

It's either going to be Biden or Buddha Judge.

Buddha Judge, I guess, is an outside chance for this nomination.

But you are living in a country now that is becoming increasingly distracted by the personal devices.

This is another underreported story.

Especially younger people under 40.

They don't pay attention to anything but what's in their hand.

And they get dribs and drabs of what's happening.

But as I said, they don't know what the history of Iran is, what Iran is trying to do, the violence that they've brought to the Middle Eastern region, which includes killing Americans.

They don't know any of this.

And the media does not want to educate anymore or put forth facts.

That's not why the media is in business.

They're in business to either hate or like Donald Trump.

That's where the money is.

And there's a lot of money.

So, you know, we're living in a rapidly changing time.

But Trump this week, I think he did himself some good by being measured.

I think going forward, if he can continue that tone,

that he's a good chance to be reelected.

You did write a book about Donald Trump.

What do you think the chances are that he continues this tone?

That's an excellent question, and based on speculation, and the United States of Trump, you know, he says humbly is by far and away the best book ever written on Donald Trump because it's not a pro or anti-Trump book.

I'm just trying to explain the man.

And in my explanation of Donald Trump, there is the fact that no one knows what what he will do.

I don't think he even knows what he's doing from day to day.

You know, it's all about how he feels.

Is he aggrieved?

Is he, you know, it's a very unpredictable situation in the White House right now, and that's not good.

You know, it's not good.

It's interesting because

one of the knocks on Trump, and if you look at the polling it's supported there as well, they think he's doing a great job with the economy, and there's a bunch of stuff they really like.

One of the things the American people tend to worry about is how he would handle a major international crisis.

And if you see this here, I mean, I did not rate this at A-plus so far.

I mean, this has been.

He handled it well, and that drove the, you know, it was interesting to watch the reaction from the hate Trump networks after his speech.

They really didn't know where to go.

All right.

So it was like, wow, he was moderate.

He's not going to hit them back.

He's not going to escalate.

So what do we do now?

What do we do now?

And then it kind of degenerated into this amorphous, well, he didn't consult with Congress, and he didn't tell Nancy Pelosi what he was going to do,

you know, and the Americans immediately, as they have with impeachment, turned away after that.

So, you know, we live in a time now where facts and truth really doesn't mean that much.

And that disturbs me.

Okay,

let me, You brought up impeachment, and I'm fascinated by this.

Do you understand, Bill O'Reilly, what Nancy Pelosi is attempting to do here?

Because she seems to, she waited for two years.

She finally decided to go forward with the impeachment on basically no evidence.

She rushed it through and said she couldn't call witnesses because she had to get it done so fast.

And now is holding onto the articles of impeachment with seemingly no plan whatsoever.

I mean, if you are a Democrat, aren't you looking at her and saying this is a massive failure?

I don't think Democrats care, and I don't think Republicans care anymore.

I think the story is dead.

That's a massive failure for them, right?

Why do it if the story's going to die in a week?

It's a failure, but they got PR out of it.

It was always a PR stunt.

It's like evil can evil.

I mean, that's what it was like.

I'm going to jump over the,

you know, the gorge.

It's Nancy Pelosi.

I'm going to impeach President Trump.

All right, so you did it, and not one Republican voted for it.

You know, there's no chance of a conviction, so we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish.

She'll send it over.

Feinstein, basically, the senator from California, Democratic Senator, said, Look, Nancy, send it over.

This is boring.

We've got to get this done.

So she'll send it over on Monday or maybe late this afternoon.

And it'll go nowhere.

McConnell already has a stranglehold on the process over there in the Senate.

But, you know, Pelosi is a creature of the party.

And the party says, okay, it's not going to ultimately work for us, but we got the damage on the impeachment.

And so now we'll go to something else.

But this is

like a major loss for Nancy Pelosi, don't you think?

It looks like...

Not for her people, though.

See, the hate Trump people, the Democrats, the liberals, the far left, they don't look at it that way.

They don't process it that way.

They never really thought that this was going to remove Donald Trump.

I mean, even a nut like Sheila Jackson Lee didn't think that.

They just wanted to embarrass him and they put him off his game and then hope he reacts in a way that's going to hurt him.

See, it's all about pushing, pushing, pushing, and hoping Donald Trump then reacts in a way that's going to make it worse.

So that's what it was all about.

It does seem like the president has the momentum, though, now, doesn't it?

Because he's handled this this situation with Iran really well.

And now it looks like he's going to win on this impeachment situation, too.

That she is now even acquiescing and saying, yeah, okay,

I'm going to send the articles to the Senate soon.

So it seems to me that after the Senate trial, he's going to have quite a bit of momentum heading into springtime.

I think his poll numbers will go up a little bit

to the mid-40s, maybe upper 40s.

But the real momentum Donald Trump has is in the disintegration of his opposition.

So it's not, Americans, yeah, okay, Iran, now what's new?

So that's gone now.

Maybe it'll come back because the, remember, the Muellers don't want him reelected.

So they could start trouble at any time to interfere in our process here.

And I expect that to happen.

But that story is gone now.

Peace should be gone in two weeks.

But the lack of a real viable candidate to take on Donald Trump is what gives the president momentum.

Because all of these people, I mean, they haven't distinguished themselves, and they're weak.

They're all weak.

And if he were facing a Michelle Obama, for example, it would be a much different story.

But he knows, and the Republicans know, that they don't have anybody to put up against him right now.

It's Pat and Stew for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program on the 20th anniversary of the Glenn Beck program.

Glenn is out with a family emergency very last minute, had to fly up to Connecticut.

He's asking you for your prayers, and we'd appreciate those, of course.

Bill O'Reilly is joining us, and we were talking a little bit about the sort of politics around the election.

And it kind of struck me today as I'm looking at the news.

Here's unemployment bill at 3.5%, the lowest in

50 years.

Can a president lose a presidential election with economic numbers like this?

Yeah, he can lose if he makes mistakes.

Because we're living in an age now where not everyone is doing well.

I mean, you've got a lot of people in America who don't have the education or the skill set to rise above a certain level, but they want the same amount of things that the affluent have.

And that's the gulf.

All right.

So you don't have, you're not primed to make a lot of money because you're not well educated and you really didn't learn how to do anything that sets you apart in the marketplace.

But you want the buying power of a $200,000 a year salary.

And those are the people that are disaffected, that are, you know, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are going for those people.

So it's all stacked against you.

It's not your fault you didn't pay attention to school or take the time to learn how to fix something.

No, no, it's the government's fault.

So elect us and we'll give you all this stuff.

That's what it is.

So those people are always going to be there, no matter how good the economy is.

But, you know, Donald Trump goes in with some pretty

firm successes.

And if he can capitalize on them,

he'll win.

You mentioned you thought Bill O, excuse me, Joe Biden was the frontrunner and really only Buddha Judge with

another really small possibility.

You don't think any of these socialists are a real threat?

No, because the minority community, which is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party now, they're not going to vote for socialists.

Hispanic Americans are not.

They know what happened in Cuba.

They know what happened in Venezuela.

They know what's going on in South and Central America.

They're not going to vote for socialists.

So you take them right out.

Now, they may not vote for Trump, but they're just not going to show up.

African Americans, a little bit harder to read that,

but I don't see any enthusiasm in any African-American precincts for socialism.

None.

I mean,

Jay-Z, is he a socialist?

Is Beyonce a socialist?

And you laugh, but these are the most important people in the African-American culture.

Jay-Z and Beyonce and Oprah.

all right, they're the most important people.

Are they socialists?

So

they have no traction,

Warren and Buddha Judge and

Sanders, in the minority communities.

None.

They win.

Yeah, it's interesting too.

You bring up the pop culture, and one of the things that was very, one of Trump's biggest

reasons he was a television star back when he was on The Apprentice is because African-American audiences love the guy.

I mean, he had great likes.

They want a pathway to achievement.

I don't think minority Americans want the federal government with a boot on their neck, even if they're giving them stuff.

I just don't think that I could be wrong on this, but I haven't seen anything that demonstrates minority voters are jazzed about socialism.

So if the socialists in the race can't win, Bill,

and

I don't see Biden

winning this thing either.

I mean, I see him winning the Democrat nomination, but I don't believe he can beat Trump.

Well, it depends.

What would it take?

I mean,

what would the circumstances have to be for Trump to lose to Joe Biden?

Well,

see, I'm much more cautious because if you look at the Electoral College map, last time around, Trump won 30 states, Hillary Clinton won 20.

But the Democrats are a lock to win California, Illinois, and New York.

I mean, that's over 100 electoral votes.

I mean, you're starting there.

Now,

I believe Trump will win Texas and Florida.

So, yes, you're elevating there, but it's not a lock.

And minority voters, African Americans in particular, will vote for Biden because of the Obama association.

And if Barack Obama and Michelle take to the campaign trail, which they might,

they don't have any use for Trump.

If they get out there,

then it's going to be close, even if Biden is befuddled.

Now, in a one-on-one debate, you would think Trump could smoke them

because Biden's got all kinds of problems with Ukraine, with his past votes, with his

inarticulation.

He just can't get a sentence out.

And I think you'll see that again next week.

There's another Democrat debate next week.

All right.

And if Biden, you know,

he just doesn't look like he has command.

No, he doesn't.

But if the Obama machine gets behind him, it's going to be close.

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We're going to come back on the other side with more with Bill O'Reilly, and we'll tell you about the 20th anniversary of the Glenn Beck program.

It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn here on the Glenn Beck program, joined by Bill O'Reilly.

Bill has a new column out talking about the way that the left,

as you put it, Bill, the totalitarian left, and it's the way they seem more and more when it comes to college campuses, when it comes to politicians that disagree, media people they don't like, of finding a way to just cancel them out of the culture, get rid of them completely because their ideas cannot be heard by the American people.

They're just not smart enough to be able to handle it.

Yeah, one of the themes, one of the themes of billo Reilly.com, we do four broadcasts a week of about 35 minutes each, and then I write a column or two and then a

daily message of the day.

And I've been pounding this theme that the woke culture, and that's the umbrella, is not really really

in business to improve the country.

It's in business to silence the country.

So last Sunday,

Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal wrote a column that says the woke people are the most hated, her word is hated,

folks in the United States of America.

I'm not sure that's true yet, but they should be because they're in the death game.

They want to kill people.

And it's not a disorganized rabble.

This comes out of very well funded and organized organizations like Media Matters, the Bonner Group, Color of Change.

There are maybe two dozen of them, most of them based on K Street in Washington.

And they receive huge grants of money from people like George Soros.

Everybody knows that name now.

But there are

thousands of people like Soros who fund these people.

And their

dictum, their mandate is to target people with whom the far left disagrees and destroy them by any means possible.

And that's what's happening.

And you can see it,

how the media loves this.

It couldn't happen without the media's cooperation.

But they love it because the media in general is liberal.

And if they can take out conservative voices and make it difficult for those people to appear on late-night TV or morning TV, that kind of thing, they get a step up in the culture war.

And that's what's happening.

So

you mentioned that they want to kill people.

You're talking more metaphorically than literally, right?

Look, they wouldn't, if I died tomorrow,

they wouldn't shed a tear.

Yeah, that's

okay.

They'd break out the champagne.

These are vicious people.

These are people

who believe that their conduct is justified

because the traditional conservative movement is so evil.

I mean, they believe we're evil, and I believe they're evil.

So never the twain will meet.

But the advantage they have, in addition to the money, the vast money they have to do what they do, is the media's acceptance of them and promotion of them.

I mean, that's why the Golden Globe warves were so stunning where you have this Gervais

basically saying, look, I'm a Brit and I'm never going to do this show again, Golden Globe, so I'm going to tell the truth about these people,

these Hollywood people, who have a vast amount of influence.

And he did.

The next day, the LA Times cut his throat, Gervais's throat, and did everything they could to marginalize the truth that he said, that these Hollywood people don't know anything.

They're ignorant.

They're intolerant.

And if you don't tow their line, you won't work in Hollywood.

And that's true.

And the same thing goes for Disney and AT ⁇ T and Comcast and all of these corporations that control the media flow in this country.

It's a bad situation.

And Americans should know just how bad it is.

Now, I've watched you, Bill, for 25 or 30 years, and I've known you for a decade.

I don't know that I've ever heard you use the word evil before.

Is that a new thing?

Is that a new realization for you or a new belief structure about these people?

No, I've used evil before in the sense that if you are a human being who wants to hurt other human beings,

All right, hurt them, you're evil.

Now, if it's self-defense, everybody understands that.

But if you are somebody who really devotes your life to hurting others, if you are a criminal,

if you are an abuser of

children,

that's evil.

And I'm seeing now a movement in this country that's being accepted that is at the same level of the totalitarian regimes of the past, in the Soviet Union, in China, in Germany, where

there were political parties that were bent on subjugating people and were going to do anything they could to accomplish that.

Well, what's the difference?

What's the difference?

So it is evil, in my opinion.

It's amazing, though, you know, given this context, Bill, you know, here's a huge group of people, very well organized, relentless,

just trying to shut people up.

And if you read the Peggy Noonan column,

in a way, she almost seems optimistic about it, that eventually the American people are going to wake up

and toss this aside and reject it.

Do you find that I think

in her column?

And by the way, I'm not a big fan of hers

because she was

one of the witch hunters and the misconduct stuff.

Everybody was guilty.

But anyway, she thinks that someone

is going to rise up and challenge these people.

Well, who might that be?

You're going to get killed if you do that by the New York Times and the Washington Post and Hollywood and The View and

MSNBC and CNN.

Who's going to do that?

I mean, you would have to have billions of dollars and you would have to have hundreds of armed guards even to take them on.

I mean, that's how bad it is.

Now, yes, you have a conservative media.

You have people on radio and television that stick up for traditional values, but it's 100 to 1 against.

I mean, you're overwhelmed by the other side.

And

that's the state we're in.

So I'm not optimistic that some white knight is going to come out.

I don't know how that could possibly happen.

Bill, where we know people should go find you at billorilly.com, as you so wonderfully outlined just a moment ago.

What else?

What else should people be aware of?

The book?

Is that the thing you're pushing right now?

No, no, the book is, we did very well with the United States of Trump,

and I appreciate you guys helping us with it.

We have a new killing book out May 12th, Killing Crazy Horse, The American Indian Wars,

which is unbelievable.

I think people will

enjoy that.

That is the ninth killing book.

17 million copies of my history books in print.

And if you become a BillO'Reilly.com Premium member, you get the book free and first.

So that's pretty much what I'm hawking right now.

Very nice.

Bill, did you have a 20th anniversary message for Glenn that you wanted to make sure he heard?

Well, first of all, I hope, you know, look, I've been friends with Beck for a long time.

Yeah.

And anything that

is troubling him troubles me.

So I'm, you know, just hoping that everything turns out.

If I can do anything, you guys tell him that I'm here to do whatever he needs.

But, you know, Glenn Beck is an interesting, and I don't want to spend a lot of times, I know you have to sell pillows and stuff.

But

if you step back and you watch what Beck does, he's different than me and others who are more traditional in this country and the media.

Because Beck is basically what I call a true believer.

I mean, he has a vision of what America should be and how people should participate in the country.

And it's different than everybody else.

And that's why I like, you know, I give Beck a hard time.

There's nobody that makes more fun of them than I do.

But when it comes right down to it, Beck is an important resource for this country.

And I'm so happy that he's been successful in the 20th anniversary.

You know, he started when he was 62 years old.

He's 82 now.

And, you know, I just hope he can last as long as he wants to last.

All right, Bill O'Reilly, BillO'Reilly.com.

We got to sell some pillows, but thanks for joining us today.

All right, guys.

Cheers.

All right.

The best of the Glenn Beck program.

Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

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This is what Glenn posted earlier this morning.

Is it on Instagram?

I believe it's on the Gram.

You know, that's what I call it the Gram.

The Gram.

Yeah, because I want people to know.

Because you're really in the know and you're really hip on the Gram.

Yeah, sometimes I'll just call it Insta.

Really?

And other times I'll call it the IG.

You know, because I, you know, that's why I'm on the TikTok as well.

So make sure you check me out there on the

TikTok.

On the TikTok.

No, I'm not.

So,

sorry, I'm an adult.

So Glenn was on Instagram, and he talked about, because it's 20 years and two days ago, he got married to Tanya.

And we were there, Pat, and got to go to a wonderful hamburger dinner right afterwards at a fast food joint.

And then two days after that, he moved to Florida and started his talk radio show.

Here's what he writes.

He says,

today's my 20th anniversary of doing talk radio.

20 years.

In many ways, it seems like yesterday.

In others, it seems like I've been doing it for a thousand years.

A lot of that has to do with working with Jeffy.

That part of it always seems a lot longer.

Yeah, no.

I've been blessed to work with some of the best people in all of radio.

Stu, Pat, Dan, Jeffy, Sarah, just to name a few, who have been with me the whole time.

Pat, for 30 years next year.

No, it's actually this year.

It's this year?

It's already 30 years, yeah.

30 years.

A little hurt.

I'm a little hurt that he didn't realize that.

Our anniversary is coming up as well.

Oh, gosh, Pat, don't cry.

30-year anniversary.

So you started with him in Baltimore

in 1990.

1990.

That's

a long freaking time ago.

It's amazing how this stuff happens.

It seems like it goes so fast.

Glenn writes, I cannot thank

all of those who've crossed my path and made me a better broadcaster and man, as well as those we currently work with, and make me sound better than I am.

But truly, one of the top five greatest blessings of my life has been able to serve you, the audience, the greatest 50 million monthly Americans to ever come together as an audience.

Tanya and I think of you as friends because, well, you are.

I don't get to see you when we hang out, but you are the most well-read, loyal, entrepreneurial, honest, and charitable audience I contend has ever been assembled in TV or radio.

I mean, a lot of that stuff is really hard to argue with.

I mean, the charitable thing in particular.

Yeah, that's great.

I mean, the way that this audience has stepped up for people in need over the years, and that's something...

that the audience never gets their due credit for.

The media never fawns over all the millions millions of dollars this audience has given to help people.

This audience has literally given tens of millions of dollars

for various causes.

Tens of millions.

Saving Christians in the Middle East, stopping people from being

sex slaves and sex slavery, back to

tons and tons of veterans' causes,

soldiers that have gone and been injured or killed

families, food kitchens.

Homeless people, I mean, across the board.

Children need.

I mean, it's been really an amazing experience to see that actually happen because we talk about how important

charity is

because we argue all the time that we want government to do less.

You know, when Mercury won, his charitable organization started, that's what they used to use that tagline all the time.

It was, you know, if we want the government to do less, we need to do more.

And this audience has taken that to heart in a real way.

Yeah.

Glenn writes, Tanya and I think of you as friends.

Maybe I did that part.

Let's see.

You challenge me, he writes.

Let me know when I am wrong, yet do something that just isn't in fashion anymore.

Remain my friend even when we disagree.

Thank you for allowing me to share your journey with you.

It has been a great joy to make you laugh, cry, see something a new way, explore life and history, think out of the box, and stand shoulder to shoulder for the God-given rights given to all mankind by a loving creator.

I know I am not good enough to have accomplished all that we have on my own, and I will agree with him.

Oh,

I mean, that's probably the truest thing he even said.

I mean, it's not even a trial.

He makes it sound like it could be close, like he's almost good enough.

He's not.

I mean, it's a huge, massive chasm.

A chasm.

Chasm.

It's a chasm.

Much of it was a blessing from God.

The mistakes, however, were all mine.

With that being said, please forgive me for not being with you today, as Glenn is not here, obviously, today.

But he wrote this at 3.15 a.m.

Eastern Time, and he had just landed in Connecticut.

Late last night, Tanya got word that her father had been rushed to the hospital and we needed to be by his side.

I hope to be back Monday, but will be gone Tuesday as my daughter Mary is going in for brain surgery Tuesday at 7 a.m.

Please pray for my family and if I may ask for one more prayer, one of my best and dearest friends is facing a fierce battle for his life today.

His name is Dom.

Please pray for miracles and grace.

See you soon.

So Dom and Mary and Binny and really honestly, a lot of people, man, going on right now.

It's been a tough few months for this sort of stuff.

Wow.

And

it's something that

everybody has to deal with at some point, but man,

I feel like it's been just a wave of

real

close-by tragedy and sadness in a lot of ways.

Obviously, everyone has to go through that at some point, but I know Glenn has had a real difficult time and has a lot going on in that area.

And I know he really wanted to be here today.

20 years doing a show that started at 970 WFLA 20 years ago, started off the first year of broadcast.

I think he started in 18th place in the ratings and then rocketed to 23rd place,

which was crazy.

But it was rocket.

It was a rocket ride.

Yeah.

And it's interesting because Patty, you know, in his morning show career, you know, he had some big stops, but some, you know, middling.

I mean, I wouldn't say middling is a good word, I think, for what he did until he met up with you.

Right.

And then had massive success all the way up to the ranges.

It was outrageous.

And, you know, he started in talk radio in 18th place, went to 23rd.

Then I joined him, and he went to number one.

So I don't know what the lesson is exactly there, but I can tell you exactly what it is.

So we started off.

Think about this.

In 2000, Glenn starts off his first show in talk radio.

He's struggling at the beginning.

He's finding his way.

I mean, Glenn's an incredible broadcaster.

Will someday be in the Radio Hall of Fame, I'm sure,

and is incredibly gifted at what he does, even though maybe some days on this program, you can't necessarily necessarily tell that.

But he starts off and he's getting his kind of feet, getting his balance.

Is this going to work as a talk radio host?

In Tampa, Florida, in 2000, when an election's going on, you may remember, centered a little bit around Florida with hanging chads and such.

So you're there for that election in Florida

about what was it, maybe

10 months later,

or eight months later, I guess it was.

We went to, we were, got an offer to be nationally syndicated, start a new show.

It was August 2001.

You may notice, one month before September.

And it was going to start the next January, right?

It was going to start at the beginning of the year, and then 9-11 happened.

Yeah, and they moved up the launch.

So we kind of like threw a network together, threw a show together.

They didn't, for some reason, they didn't want to talk about relationship issues

with whoever else was doing the show at that time.

Yeah.

During 9-11.

A little bit of a change up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we did that.

I mean, we think of all the stuff that's happened, Pat.

I mean, you go through the Iraq war,

the Kerry versus Bush election, which came down to Ohio, and we were out there with a giant waffle head going around telling, you know,

mocking John Kerry.

Then you had the

comic collapse, Katrina.

You had the Obama election and all of that crazy stuff.

And, you know, in that period, you know, Glenn started his CNN headline news show and then onto the Fox news show with all that stuff with Van Jones and then the

restoring honor in Washington, D.C.

Hundreds of thousands of people gathering for that, all the restoring

events since.

It has been a hell of a ride, a hell of a 20 years, man.

Really has.

And this audience has been there the entire time.

Many, I mean, people I still hear from all the time who were listening those first days in Tampa.

The fact that they stuck around through those days is

a feat of strength in and of itself.

But to hang around for 20 years, still listening to Glenn, I know he really legitimately appreciates it.

And, you know, we talk about this off the air all the time that this audience is something special.

The fact that they've been able to do the things that they've been able to do, you know,

the ways that we've been influenced by the audience over the years.

You know, I'll never forget going, we're doing the show in Tampa back, and this is the Terry Shivo days.

And

I was out at

an all-you-can-eat buffet.

Because I guess there was a buffet, there was a buffet in Tampa that threw out a big fat guy because he was eating eating too many crab legs.

And it was kind of a big local story.

So we decided to get 10 of our fattest listeners to go to this buffet and just gorge themselves to see if we could get kicked out.

So that's what I was doing.

And Glenn was back taking calls on the local issue of the day, Terry Shivo.

And he was on the other side of it.

He was on the side of like, ah, you know what?

I mean, look, I wouldn't want to live that way.

Let her die.

You know, the husband seems to want it, whatever.

And he got a call from a listener, one one of the last calls on the show, who said, you know, Glenn, I've been listening to you for a year, and this doesn't seem consistent with you at all.

Like, have you actually thought about this story at all?

And it's funny because, you know, doing talk radio, especially when you hear it being done by others, you can tell

when the people have actually thought out the issue they're talking about.

And it's not 100% of the time

news flash.

A lot of times it's just, you know, there's a little bit of rip and read going on occasionally in talk radio.

And I don't know.

He was trying to be entertaining.

He was was much more focused on this big buffet issue going on in town.

And, you know, he stopped and he

really bothered him.

I remember him telling me about this as we went into the weekend.

You know, it really bothered me.

Like, I don't know why.

He seemed to connect.

So he did something that I don't know that a lot of hosts do.

He went home and actually took the caller's advice and thought about it.

And he came back the next day on Monday and said, you know, I'm totally wrong on this.

I blew this one.

And instead of just letting the story die or

trying to massage it, and as I was saying on Friday, I'm on this side of it.

He came out and just laid it out on the table.

This is what happened.

I was wrong.

I didn't think about it enough.

I let you down.

Here's what the real, the truth is.

And, you know, he wound up becoming very close to the Shibo family and who really appreciated his efforts.

I mean, that was a big story in Tampa long before it was a national story.

And, you know, I think that's one of the things that sets Glenn apart, honestly, as a host, and that he's willing to just come out here and just just say, you know what, I totally blew that one.

That is very rare in talk radio.

You don't hear it a lot.

You don't hear it.

I mean, you certainly don't hear it from the media today.

I mean, you know, wouldn't it be nice to have CNN, maybe Allison Camerado, who's probably the worst offender on this particular topic, to come out one day and say, you know what?

I said to you 20 times on the air that the dossier was confirmed and corroborated by authorities.

And you know what?

I got to just tell you,

I really believed it at the time, but you know what?

I was totally wrong on that.

And you should know that I was wrong.

And you should know next time I come out with something like that, it's okay to have questions because I blew that one.

Yeah, wouldn't that be nice?

Wouldn't that be nice?

But she'll never do that.

You never hear that.

Never do that.

You do hear it from Glenn, though.

Yeah.

And when he does get something wrong, he does really try to.

And that's something that is difficult to do for your ego.

And it's something that a lot of broadcasters.

It's counterintuitive, too.

But tell you not to do it.

Any consultant would say, don't do that.

Right.

Because you're supposed to be the ultimate.

You gotta be the authority.

Yeah.

You know, don't admit your, your, uh, your,

your lack of perfection to the audience.

Right.

But, you know, I think that's what one of the things that we've loved about this show is that the audience is, you know, they're smart.

They know, they know you're not perfect.

They're, they're human beings and they also are not perfect.

And we've been able to kind of go through 20 years of this together.

And hopefully...

I mean, for Pat and I'll take not too much longer because it really, I can't take anymore.

But no, it's been able, it's been an amazing ride, and I know Glenn really appreciates it and wants to be here.

So we're going to go over some.

He wants to, I know, talk to you about it as well.

But on this day, where 20 years ago, 970 WFLA launches this show, we appreciate not only their affiliation with us, but all the stations and all the advertisers, and especially the audience.

It's been an amazing ride, and hopefully a lot more.

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