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And welcome to the Glenbeck program.

A new decade, ready to go.

A lot has happened.

The whole Oran thing, World War III, a draft is coming.

Let's have some perspective here.

And this is coming from me

with Iran.

Let's have some perspective here.

I'll give you that.

Ricky Gervais.

Also, Epstein didn't kill himself.

60 Minutes report last night.

That and so much more in one minute.

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let's start here with just a

brief recap of

we're going to war.

It's World War III.

Maybe.

Maybe not.

Let's not count our chickens before they hatch here.

Let's talk a little bit here.

I'm going to next hour really get into who is this guy that we killed?

Why did we kill him?

What do we know about him?

Was this just something that Donald Trump did just half-cocked?

Or perhaps is this something that was coming for a long time, and yet no one seemed to understand the signs that Donald Trump was showing starting, oh, I don't know, maybe last spring.

I'll give you that coming up in an hour.

But let me just say this: World War III,

I don't think so.

Unless

Iran really goes to town.

And I think the only place that they would really go to town and let everybody know it is Israel.

They might let missiles fly to Israel and destroy Tel Aviv.

That's what they're talking about now.

If they do that, they are betting that that will awaken the Arab world and the Arab world would unite in a caliphate behind them.

That is a possibility.

Wash the world in blood.

However, I don't think that they would take on America knowingly.

So in other words, them sending a missile from a ship off our coast or whatever,

or

blowing up the presidential motorcade or they're threatening the White House.

I just don't see them doing that directly as a state because we would wipe them off the face of the earth within an hour.

They kill our president, and Americans,

no matter what Hollywood is saying today, who was it that joked, uh, we'll give it, we'll do it for half price.

It was George Lopez that they said, what was it, 80 million dollar bounty on Donald Trump's head, correct?

And uh, and um, he came out and said, Oh, we'd do it for half that.

Really?

Would we, George?

One thing that does bring Americans together is when you kill our president.

Now,

I don't think that they would do that.

However, I do think that they would possibly go after an embassy.

That's what they were doing, led by this guy.

That's what they were doing in

Baghdad, trying to take our embassy.

We have a history with Iran taking our embassies.

This is the guy, as you will find out next hour, there's a good possibility this is the guy that actually orchestrated Benghazi.

So he took over our consulate.

Now he's trying to take over our embassy.

No,

you can't do that.

So what's the retaliation?

And what's the solution?

Retaliation

we have to wait to see, but it ties into what I'll tell you next hour.

World War III,

if it's just us and Iran, we win.

And it's not going to be World War III.

If they really believe that they are put in the position now where the caliphate can happen,

it would be World War III.

We'll give you more in it in just a little while, but there's no draft coming.

It's amazing how the press works.

First, that Donald Trump is half-cocked.

No, I can go back to your own reporting

and find out all I need to know about how long this has been coming.

But the press is now trying to scare people into there's a draft coming.

No one in the Pentagon wants a draft.

No one, no military branch wants a draft.

The only way that there would be a draft is if the Democrats insisted on one.

Because every conservative and every single person in the Pentagon does not want a draft because you don't want somebody watching your pack that doesn't give a flying crap and doesn't want to be there.

You only want the people there who are prepared to fight.

And the Democrats propose a draft all the time.

All the time.

I mean, it used to be every single year.

I don't know if they're they're still doing it, but they would propose a draft every single year because

their little philosophy that

not enough white people, I think, are on the front lines.

They seem to turn everything into race.

But that is something that the Democrats have been talking about for a very long time.

It's not realistic.

I mean, we're not even at war, right?

This is with Iran right now.

I mean, we are in a proxy way.

And yes, we did have a very high-profile incident.

However, that incident was covered under

our efforts in Iraq.

He was in Iraq.

Yes, he was a high-level official who was organizing attacks against our troops in the country where we have an authorized military action.

And he's also not

responsive to the people.

He does not fall under the elected government.

That's the thing you have to understand.

There is an elected government of

Iran.

And then above that, there is the Supreme Council.

And the Supreme Council doesn't answer to the elected officials.

In fact, they're the ones orchestrating what all of the officials are doing and who can run and who could be a legitimate candidate.

So the people have very little say.

But this guy in particular, he only answers to the Supreme Council, which is all of the crazy mullahs.

He doesn't answer, doesn't have to talk to, doesn't have to report to, doesn't have anything to do with the elected government.

So, what you're talking about is a guy who is rogue, who's listening to religious zealots, and he's going around the world setting up ways to kill people and to kill Americans, to kill anybody that stands in the way of the Iranian idea of a new caliphate.

I love how they keep bringing in the, look, we've had intelligence failures before.

And, you know, who knows what this is going to, they're saying there was an imminent attack, and there's been these, these, you know, remember the Iraq war?

You went into that and you had nothing.

And it's like, well, I guess theoretically this is possible, but let's investigate this for a second.

He's admitted a bunch of this stuff.

He keeps going on television and saying he's killing Americans.

So I don't know.

I mean, unless he's lying.

Now, you could definitely argue there's a lack of intelligence in admitting these things on television.

That's a lack of intelligence, but that's the only one I think we're doing.

Or the lack of intelligence in the reporters themselves.

It's that they're not even trying.

You just look for things to target the Trump administration here.

There's nobody who's arguing that has any credibility that this guy

was not guilty and was one of the most dangerous people in the world.

You can argue lots of things around the process around it.

Like, oh, did he call Nancy Pelosi in advance?

Well, I'm sure that would have worked out well.

We would have found this guy.

He would have been in Acapulco before

the missiles started coming.

So

you can't do that with this administration.

They will leak against him on anything.

And

you have to be guarding that side of it if you're done with that.

This is what happens when you can't work together on anything, when there is nothing sacred and it's all about destroying a president.

When it's all about destroying a president, that's what you get.

The president can't trust you, can't talk to you, can't bring you in for advice and counsel, just has to do it without you because he knows that anything he says in private will immediately be leaked if they either disagree with it or think that they can get a political leg up.

That's what happens.

This is not good.

And Trump has to follow the law whether he thinks people are leaking against him anyway.

But what he doesn't have to do is follow every little traditional disclosure.

that friends used to give each other back in the day where they would go out and have drinks

at the fancy steakhouse steakhouse after work.

He doesn't have to give them that.

And that is the only thing they seem to be complaining about.

Okay.

This all relies on trust.

And who do you trust?

Well,

60 Minutes is now throwing.

I don't.

I mean, they were very careful last night to say, well, we don't have all of the facts.

Well, if you weren't comfortable with what you were doing, you shouldn't do it.

But I think they were comfortable in reporting last night.

It doesn't look like Jeffrey Epstein was all that sad.

Doesn't look like

at least.

Oh, you didn't read his note.

His note was devastating, really.

Oh, my gosh.

I think Scott Bag was on the note.

The note won me over.

Definite suicide.

Really?

I mean, the things he was going through.

I almost feel that we shouldn't tell the audience because it may make them so sad that they all hang themselves.

Well, I'm going to risk that.

Oh.

And we'll go over what happened on 60 Minutes last night.

Oh, and Ricky Gervais,

he remains my hero.

I love him.

He legitimately does not care.

No.

I don't know how he gets away with it, but it's awesome.

He's Imus.

He's Imus.

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All right, so let's

go through what happened last night on 60 Minutes with Jeffrey Epstein.

Yeah, it's interesting because really this story was out there for such a long time.

Conservatives complained about it for years and years and years that Jeffrey Epstein was, you know, the normal target was Bill Clinton that he was hanging out with.

And nobody in the media cared about this story.

Nope.

Eventually we got to a point in which the guy who gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein

was in the Trump administration.

And at that point,

thousands of reporters swamped to the scene to figure out exactly what happened.

And some of the reporting, honestly, has been really, really good.

I mean, the Miami Herald probably at the top of that list, but there's been some excellent reporting on this.

And now, you know, it does seem like the journalists have crossed the line as, you know, now they care.

I'm not sure it was all of the journalists.

I think some of the journalists did care.

I think it was all of their bosses who either didn't care or were being told not to care.

We know this with the James O'Keefe story, where they were able to get the one reporter who

was complaining about not being able to get the

story out

years ago.

Yeah, NBC, we know that as well.

So the CC so 60 Minutes runs a big thing on basically did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?

And one of the guests they have on is a guy who was

a

doctor who was paid by Epstein's brother to figure out the truth.

So realize that there's a motivation here into telling you that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

But he is also a credible witness.

A credible guy.

Yeah, he's done many, many

of these.

He's very credible.

So, Sarah, I think we have one clip from Mike here

from Dr.

Michael Bowden is his name.

He is, or Baden, I believe it is.

He was a, this is the guy who was paid by the Epstein family to kind of figure out, look into what really happened here.

Let's listen.

Do you think there was foul play here?

The forensic evidence released so far, including the autopsy, point much more to murder and strangulation than the suicide and suicidal hanging.

I hesitate to make a final opinion until all the evidence is in.

People will say, well, you're being paid by Mark Epstein, so of course you're going to say that something suspicious is going on.

That's a reasonable thing for some people to think.

But our job is to find what the truth is, just to find out whether there's a homicide or a suicide.

We still haven't gotten all the information.

And this is not a guy who hadn't dealt with situations like this.

He had thousands of them.

Here he is talking about how rare it is to see the types of fractures from Jeffrey Epstein.

Listen.

I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging.

Sometimes there's a fracture of the higher bone or a fracture of the thyroid cartilage.

And not three.

Very unusual to have two and not three.

And going over over a thousand jail hangings, suicides, in the New York City state prisons over the past 40, 50 years.

No one had three fractures.

No one.

Just no one.

But just no one.

Out of thousands.

Out of 40 years.

It's pretty amazing.

And one of the other points he makes is they have now, these pictures have come out.

They're pretty graphic of Epstein.

You can see close-ups of his neck.

A couple things.

You see like a line of blood essentially on his neck.

You do not see blood on the noose that was supposedly used, at least in the pictures.

You do not see a point where when you have typically a hanging, you put the thing around your neck, it sort of slips a little bit.

So you'd see almost markings of a slippage, which they did not see.

Also,

they go into some

depth on

the fractures, which just seem to be completely odd, and the fact that this, the pictures are more consistent with a wire, essentially, a wire strangulation than a typical jailhouse hanging of themselves.

However, the other evidence presented was pretty compelling as well.

And, you know, what do you want to do?

You want to come up with a motivation for something like this if it's going to happen.

And the motivation was clear in a suicide note.

Oh.

And the suicide note was incredibly powerful.

I mean, you'd kill yourself too in this situation.

Sure, sure.

He makes several points here.

Number one,

Epstein writes, kept me in a locked shower for an hour.

So, I mean, look, you molest a few hundred teenagers.

You're not going to be, I mean, it could be 20 minutes in a shower, maybe,

but an hour in a shower?

Now, I know, first of all, showers are awesome.

And as my wife would tell you, I've taken too many one-hour showers.

They're just awesome.

However, when you're locked in there against your will for one full hour, that's 60 minutes, also the name of the show that this happened on.

That's powerful.

That's number one.

How about this?

it looks like noel who may have been one of the guards

sent in burnt food holy cow now the shower you didn't have me but now

burnt food i'm i'm starting to get sad myself if i'm thinking this is happening to me right now you're really sad yeah the next part

giant bugs crawling on my hands Now, I wouldn't, that sounds pretty bad.

I don't know exactly what happens.

My guess is he wakes up in the middle of the night.

night, there's a cockroach on his hand.

He's not used to this activity, likely.

I don't know a lot of people that are

used to

that activity.

I did live in a couple of residences early in my life.

Yeah, early in mind.

He's not so great.

However, those three kind of build up, you know, the shower for an hour, the burnt food, the bugs on the hands.

That's all really bad.

But it builds really to the final conclusion, which is typically the thing you would write before you commit an actual suicide, which is no fun.

Exclamation point.

Exclamation point.

Two.

Two.

Two exclamation points here.

No fun.

No fun.

Now, of course, you go to prison for molesting a bunch of children.

You assume it's going to be fun, but not here.

No fun.

Zero fun.

Not even a little fun.

He specifically says

no fun.

That's the most ridiculous suicide note I've ever heard.

It doesn't, I mean, it looks like a couple of things he wanted to bring up to his lawyer.

It doesn't look like a suicide note at all.

Like, maybe he's whining to his lawyer for better treatment or whatever.

But that's not a suicide note.

Unbelievable.

No fun.

Fun.

And it almost points to the fact that it wasn't a suicide.

Why are you complaining about your conditions if you're about to hang yourself?

Well, unless these are the reasons.

But those are not

the reasons.

No, not the reason.

I mean, maybe the giant bugs.

I might kill myself too if I had giant bugs all over my hands.

But, you know, no fun.

It's not going to be fun, bud.

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Hello, Pat.

Hello, Glay.

Seems like a long time since you've been here.

I know.

It's been six months?

Something like that?

Six months.

It's been two weeks.

Yeah, two weeks.

Wow.

But a lot has happened in those two weeks.

Gosh, a lot.

Christmas and New Year's and Star Wars and all of that.

I was thinking about war.

Oh, but Star Wars.

That's happened.

Yeah, Star Wars.

That's a war.

That's a war.

Yeah, I have a review, by the way, of 1917.

If you've you've wanted to see this movie,

wait for the review.

It's coming up in about an hour from now.

Also, won the Golden Globe last night.

Yeah.

Best picture.

I watched it twice.

Watched it twice.

And it's.

I'd say that's a good sign.

Generally, a movie you hate and you don't go to a second time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is.

This is a really interesting movie, the way it was done.

Really interesting.

Better than Saving Private Ryan?

Tell you in an hour.

Star Wars.

Star Wars.

I was blown away because I didn't expect to like it.

I loved it.

I loved it too.

I loved it.

I thought it was so satisfying.

Here's my theory.

Here's my theory.

My daughter came out of it.

Now, this is Hannah.

And she came out of it and she said, I really liked it, but it was so predictable.

And I said, what?

I've got a bad feeling about this.

All of those things that are in every single movie.

Which they could do without.

Right.

And I said, and she said, no, I mean, you know, the way it ended, blah, blah, blah.

And I said, did you like the way it ended?

And she said, yes.

Do we have spoiler alerts here that we have?

No, I'm not going to go into it other than that.

She said, yes.

And I said,

the difference may be that I remember going to the theater on the first one.

Yeah, me too.

And so I've gone through this.

I've lived this 40 years.

And if you don't give me a satisfying ending, I'm really pissed.

That involves some people I care about.

Yes.

And it did.

And it did.

And I thought it tied the storyline up of 40 years.

Halfway through that, I thought I could not have even been in the room when they were writing this script and going through all the possibilities because the possibilities are endless.

You could have ended this thing.

a hundred different ways and I would have just kept coming up with a hundred different ways to end it and everybody would have said, Get out of here.

Okay.

The way they ended it, the pressure of ending that story arc of 40 years

is enormous.

Yeah, I agree with that.

And I think that they tied it up.

Yeah, I think they've tied it up in a, in a,

in a satisfying way.

Yes.

And put it all to rest.

I mean, I was 16 years old when this began.

Right.

I'm 58 now.

That's a lifetime of loving that movie series.

Amazing.

It's just unphenomenal.

I had tears in my eyes because of that.

I mean, I've lived my whole life with this series.

See,

I think there's a difference because the people that I have heard that say they don't like it don't remember the first movie.

I was, what, 14 when it came out.

So I remember going to the movie, and I had the same feeling.

I had this feeling of this is a milestone in, you know, a stupid milestone, but it's a milestone in my life.

I was there for the first one.

I'm here for the last one.

See, I think that's why, and I did not see any of the first three in the theater, but I saw them all a thousand times

growing up.

And to me, that was my problem with it.

It didn't seem like they had a plan.

That was all I thought so.

They went into, like,

you know, some of the major developments, some of which are in the trailer, certain people coming back from long absences that seemingly were

preclude coming back.

Those sorts of things just seem like, ah, crap.

Like, the last movie was such a disaster.

Let's ignore that one.

Let's treat that one like Halloween 3 season of the witch, where Michael Myers isn't okay with that.

We'll just kind of toss that one off to the side.

That one wasn't part of the series.

And let's just bring back a couple of old guys and then try to wrap up everybody at the same time.

I kind of feel like, you know, because growing up with this movie, I was always told, right, by George Lucas that there was nine of them.

And there's supposed to be a prequel and then there there was a sequel.

And

there's going to be nine stories.

And like, I thought you feel like at the beginning, this guy knows where the nine movies are going.

I got the sense that

at the end of the day,

they got out of this last movie.

They're like, all right, that was a disaster.

What do we do next?

It's not a story.

I'm not going to be able to attend the end, though.

No, it's not.

So it's a whole different guy who's doing it.

But it's still

had a plan.

But I think Abrams decided.

Early on,

I'm going to make this satisfying because Last Jedi sucked for so many people.

I'm going to make this satisfying for people who have lived it their whole lives.

I agree.

I think J.J.

Abrams was the right guy.

I agree with that.

I could do it.

I feel the same way that you guys are describing about The Force Awakens.

Because to me, it was the first three movies were, you know, the prequels were such a disaster.

Oh, I agree.

And I feel like this rejuvenated, brought back this series from

dead.

I agree.

I liked The Force Awakens.

And I like, so I really like that one.

And I feel like a lot of people don't now.

This one, though,

but I think it was mainly because I was like, oh, well, this did something.

Yeah, I agree.

It brought it back.

And I would put this in with the first three.

Me, too.

I would go one, two, three.

And this is force.

This one.

Oh,

no.

No, number one, two, three.

Four, five, six, and then this one.

But the actual 1977, 80, 83, then this one.

Yeah.

I put that in this category.

It fit.

With the old ones much better.

I thought.

Me too.

Force Awakens, I really liked.

I really liked.

It was essentially the first movie remade.

It was basically what it was.

They all were.

You know what was weird?

Is over the holiday,

we watched them from the beginning.

We watched them in chronological order.

In chronological order, really.

Yeah.

We didn't watch the first one.

We watched highlights of the second one, and we started really watching them at three.

So we went three, four,

Rebel One, I think.

No, we went three, then Rebel one,

Rogue One, and then four,

and then

Solo.

Then we went three.

We really went deep.

Yeah, we went deep.

We tried to watch them all in chronological order.

I watched one through eight without the two side movies.

I liked adding the two side movies in them.

Yeah.

I mean, I probably should have, but I, but I didn't.

Yeah, because you don't like them.

I don't like them.

I don't like Rogue One that much.

I like Solo.

But the first three,

I thought, okay, I'll bet I was just too hard on the first three.

No, I wasn't hard enough on the first three.

No, the first three.

The first three.

The sequels are so bad.

You mean the prequels?

The prequels.

I mean, yeah.

The prequels are so bad, they're unwatchable.

They really are.

Unwatchable.

They really are.

Just bad movies.

And I had to skip all the way through.

Every Jar Jar Binks part, okay, no.

I'm sorry.

And then when it came to the Luke parts in Last Jedi, I had to skip all through that too because they just ruined him.

It does in that last movie.

Does Vid Angel have a specific Jar Jar filter?

That's a great

feature to add.

That would be fantastic.

Because it edits out

content you're not supposed to watch for kids or whatever.

Yeah.

They just have one button that's just Jar Jar.

It just takes Jar Jar out of any movie.

If he ever appears in another movie, it would take him out of that too.

Speaking of this, I watched

what's that Hollywood film with

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

Yes, I watched that on the airplane, so it's been edited.

So I don't know what they took out of it.

They probably took a lot.

Was it like 22 minutes?

Yeah.

Because it was like four hours in real life.

Yeah, it was like still two hours or two hours and 20 minutes, something like that.

And I don't know what they took out, but that movie is awesome.

It is the most accurate depiction of the 1970s I've ever seen.

Except that it's not even a true story.

No, it's a fictionalized version of what happened.

Right.

Right, right, right.

But it's, but it is, I mean, you feel, that movie could have been made in the 1970s.

It feels like the 1970s.

And the way

Quentin Tarantino

did the flashback scenes and the, and the, have you seen it?

Yeah.

Okay.

So the way he did the Western and the, and all the other things that, I mean, it absolutely felt like the 1970s.

It was definitely well done.

It was really long in real life.

Not as long as The Irishman.

Oh, yeah.

How was that?

I heard that was really good.

I only made it about half a day.

I saw it.

Slow and really long.

Like, it's one of those, I feel like a lot of this, this time, this happens with a lot of directors where, like, you know, a movie could be good at.

one hour, 38 minutes, and instead it's three hours and 14 minutes.

And like, The Irishman was like that.

I was like, that could have easily been cut down to two hours and it would have been fine.

You would have got it.

It would have been good.

It was a good, solid movie.

I don't think it was any major achievement in the mob movie category, but it was a solid, you know, it was a solid mob movie.

I expected it to be mob movie.

I mean, it had everybody in it.

Yeah.

Everybody.

It was good.

Like, they were all good in it.

Like, it was well done.

It just was, it was, it didn't feel like some dramatic big event, you know, and it didn't, it was in the Golden Globes last night.

I mean, everyone was expecting it to win everything.

It didn't win anything.

Anything.

Netflix got completely shut out.

Netflix did?

Yeah.

Which is funny because Gervas started the whole thing basically saying how everyone was going to Netflix.

The Netflix now rules.

Speaking of streaming services, what did you think of the Mandalorians' first season?

Now that you've seen the whole thing,

I liked it.

I liked it quite a bit by the end.

I thought they redeemed themselves in the last few episodes.

Yeah.

It became quite interesting then.

Yeah.

I mean, but Yoda still, you take Yoda out of it, it's nothing.

I mean, baby Yoda

is really important.

Yeah, I know.

But I'm just saying that it is, it's a weak story and weak.

Make strong because there's a baby Yoda in it.

Yes, yes.

And you know, they're saying that Baby Yoda,

that this is the actual future of movies, that stars now are dead, which I don't, I don't agree with.

However, listen to the review of 1917.

I may be contradicting myself, but they're saying that stars now are a thing of the past.

And this is the first, the Baby Yoda series is the first

hat tip to the future of movies.

It's CGI.

It will be voiced by somebody.

Nobody's going to hold the bank up, you know,

and rob Disney because I don't know if if I'm going to sign up for another.

It's CGI.

And the lead character,

the face was only seen one time.

Yeah.

One time.

You can put anybody under that mask.

Correct.

And so they're saying now that it's really just the stories.

And with CGI, I mean, the only one thing that was amazing to me is when you go back and you watch, what was it, one of the prequels.

I can't remember which one, but

the Star Wars where

Peter, what's his name, who was running the Death Star?

Remember Peter Cushing

in Rogue One, and

he's CGI, and you can tell he's already been.

He's been dead for how many years.

Would you have known that Carrie Fisher was dead?

Not at all.

Not

at all.

At all.

They improved it so much from the last time they did it that you couldn't even tell.

You would swear she was alive afterwards.

I heard all those scenes.

My daughter's was like, my daughter was like,

What?

She's dead?

Yeah.

Yes.

It's that amazing.

Three years.

So, I mean, we're now entering a stage where actors and actresses don't even have to be a part of it.

Do you know that they're making a new James Dean film?

With James Dean in it.

Yes.

He's the star

of it.

He's the star of it.

And who's getting paid?

His family.

Wow.

And it's supposedly going to be good well based on what they did with carrie fisher i believe i believe they can do it thank you so much

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I found an old article from him in 2014

because I was led down this rabbit trail on trying to figure out who

Suleimani was, the guy that we killed over in Baghdad.

And he's he's clearly a very bad guy.

And there's some things that happened prior to his death, starting in April of last year, that show that this was not a quick decision.

This has been well thought out for quite some time and things really have changed.

Well, as I started doing my research, I find this article from Ken Timberman.

He is the guy who wrote a book called Dark Forces.

I completely forgot about about it.

He wrote this article in 2014 when the book came out.

25.

It's a book about the dark forces, including

Suleimani.

And

I don't think America really understands

who we killed.

I mean, if you were cheering for Osama bin Laden's death, you should be cheering for this guy's death.

Really, if you're cheering for Hitler's death,

you should be cheering for this guy's death.

This is a very, very bad guy.

And no matter what the press or the

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We go to Kenneth Timmerman.

He is

the author of Dark Forces that came out a few years ago.

And he really knows about who this guy was that we killed

last week in the airport of Baghdad.

A lot of people are upset.

I don't think you should be upset because I don't think the real Iranian people are all that upset either.

They're probably cheering the death of this guy, at least the people that want to be free.

Welcome to the program, Ken.

How are you?

I'm doing great.

Thanks for having me on, Glenn.

You bet.

Important topic.

Okay.

So tell me who this guy is before you get back to what you really discovered in Libya.

Tell us just generally who this guy is.

Well, he is, as you mentioned, he's as bad as bin Laden.

He is the chief terrorist of the Iranian regime.

He runs a whole legion of overseas terror operators called the Quds Force.

That means the Jerusalem Force.

Their goal is to spread the Iranian ideology and the regime itself to foreign countries.

So they're present in Lebanon, they're present in Syria, they're present in Yemen, they're present in Iraq, Afghanistan.

They're the ones who command terror attacks.

They're the ones who were going to blow up the Saudi ambassador in the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C., plant a bomb there because they didn't like the guy, take out perhaps 100 people having lunch in the downtown Washington, D.C.

This was 2011.

He blew up the Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires, killed 86 Jews at a Jewish center there in 1994.

That was also one of their operations.

He is the worst of the worst.

And in addition, he is the best that they've got.

So we just took out somebody incredibly important for the regime.

Okay.

What people don't understand is that the regime, the elected regime, is all hands selected by the real regime, the mullahs and the Ayatollah that actually run everything.

And this guy did not report to the elected officials.

He reported right directly to the Ayatollah.

Correct.

He was his right-hand man.

And you see again and again pictures of the two of them together.

He was doing the bidding of the Supreme Leader.

And I can tell you today, Glenn, that the Supreme Leader himself personally is shaking in his plimsholes.

And why do you say that?

Well, because he realizes that the U.S.

no longer is going to be bound by the diplomatic constraints that have held us back in the past.

There has been a kind of taboo, if you wish, on hitting people like Soleimani for many, many years.

And this is from the State Department, it's from the Pentagon.

I'll give you one example.

In 2007,

his people kidnapped five American soldiers in Iraq in Kerbalah and murdered them.

And instead of striking back at Suleimani, we released some of his people that had been arrested in Iraq.

Suleimani and the Quds Force were responsible for approximately 600 deaths of U.S.

soldiers in Iraq with the specially formed, explosively formed penetrators.

These are

warheads that are planted in IEDs along the road.

Very, very deadly.

I've written about this quite a bit.

You can see that at kentimmerman.com.

And

we did nothing.

We did not retaliate against Suleimani.

So now the Supreme Leader realizes the gloves are off.

He could be next.

And certainly, for sure, the man who replaces Suleimani, should he conduct similar operations against Americans, he is definitely going to be next.

So it's almost as if history is repeating itself in some ways.

Under the Obama administration,

we had the Benghazi consulate attacked.

And then

when Iran tries to do it again with a new Reagan, if you will, somebody who thinks a little like Reagan,

we don't put up with it.

We put up with it under Barack Obama.

And in fact, your reporting shows that

Soleimani was the architect of the Benghazi

nightmare.

He was indeed.

And I know this primarily from Iranian sources, but also from Americans

had access to some of the briefings before the 9-11 attacks and to a very key document, which is in one of my books on Benghazi called Deception.

This is a Defense Intelligence Agency after-action report delivered to then Director Michael Flynn.

Michael Flynn, remember, who

became the national security advisor to President Trump and was going to clean house and the intelligence agencies and of the deep state.

Well, Flynn asked the entire defense intelligence community what happened in Benghazi on September 11th, 2012.

And I specifically want you to tell me what we knew about the Quds Force involvement, that means Soleimani, and the al-Qaeda involvement.

The report that came back, which I've published, you can see it at kentimmerman.com or in my book, Deceptions.

That report came back six pages.

The first three pages were on the Quds Force involvement.

Everything that we knew about them, everything that we knew about Qasim Soleimani in the Benghazi attacks, blanked out, three pages of it.

And then the last three pages were about al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda affiliates.

And there, you see a sentence here, a sentence there.

But we knew a lot.

The U.S.

intelligence community knew a lot.

And I've written about that in my books on Benghazi.

All right.

Let's go to the

embassy in Baghdad.

He was the driving force behind that attack.

Absolutely.

And I I think we know pretty clearly by now from what Secretary of State Pompeo has said and the president, the U.S.

intelligence community knew it.

They knew that Suleimani was behind that.

You know, they were attempting, Glenn, to repeat what happened in Benghazi.

Correct.

They thought that they could storm the embassy and that we would just cave and nobody would come.

There'd be no reinforcements.

No one would come to the rescue.

Well, what a difference a president makes.

This president immediately sent 100 Marines from Kuwait.

They secured the embassy and the attackers dispersed, as opposed to what happened in Benghazi.

What do you say about the,

I'm just quoting a headline here, millions of angry mourners from all walks of life participate in separate funeral ceremonies held in the southwestern city, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, of

the martyr Soleimani.

Well, I don't see them joining the ranks of martyrdom with him.

Let's just put it that way.

We've always known the regime is capable of mustering a crowd.

In many cases, they pay people to come.

They let them get off work.

They oblige government employees to attend these mass rallies to chant Death with America.

And many times when the cameras pan out, or you get somebody from a pro-freedom movement taking a YouTube video and they post it, you see that

when the camera pans out, there's nobody in the square.

There's a tight crowd around the speaker up front, and then there's nobody in the rest of the square.

These are rent mobs.

The people of Iran who are sick and tired of these tyrants who've been governing them for 40 years, an era of 40 years of darkness in Iran.

The people of Iran are celebrating.

And I know this.

I've seen it all over

social media.

They're very active in social media.

When the regime does not block the internet, they have been celebrating the demise of Qasim Soleimani and

can't wait until the rest of the tyrants go with him.

People are trying to make Donald Trump look like this was just something that, you know, he's doing because he wanted people not to pay attention to

the impeachment, which is what a lot of conservatives said about the bombing of the aspirin factory during

the Monica Lewinsky thing when

Bill Clinton was going after Osama bin Laden, who Americans didn't know at the time.

But this, you know, I was reading this and it talked about how we have, we've always been following him.

But the White House told the Pentagon, I want to know where this guy is 24-7 at all times back in May.

It was also back in May that

we

put

the Quds force on, and the IR, what is it, the IRGC, IRGC,

put them on the terror watch list for the first time, which he is a controlling member of, obviously.

There was a defection

of a very high-ranking intelligence officer who seems to be like

a walking knock list in a way.

And he defected in April and brought all kinds of classified documents with him.

Is there any connection between his defection and this killing and the upping of everything in May right after his defection?

Very good point that you raised, Glenn, and I really haven't heard anybody else make the connect those dots.

Extremely important.

You talk about this defector.

He was the head of the intelligence unit of the Islamic Republic Revolutionary Guards Corps, and he did come out

and, you know, clearly, you say, a walking knock list, he knew everything that the IRGC and that the Kuds force were doing.

Did he give the United States the ability to track Soleimani in real time?

I don't know.

I don't know about, I'm not asking about that.

I'm asking, did he bring information, do you believe, that

proved or opened the eyes of the administration or the Pentagon and was enough evidence to know this guy, we have to watch because he's all over the world and we may have to take him out?

I think what happened is that he essentially made it so crystal clear that Suleimani was never going to put down the gloves.

He was never going to stop killing our people, and that we had to take action.

I think that really, I think you're right.

I think that tipped the balance.

And that, by the way, is when you hear Mike Pompeo, he was interviewed right shortly after that defector came out, and he said, yes, we put Qasim Soleimani

back on the terror list.

He was taken off.

He personally was taken off by Barack Obama at the moment of the Iran deal.

So Pompeo said, we put him back on the terror list.

And some TV interviewer said, well, does that mean that we're going to do the same thing to him that we did to Osama bin Laden?

And Pompeo just gives him that icy stare and says, he's a terrorist.

All right.

So let me ask you a final question.

Where does this go?

Is Iran and the Mullahs and the Ayatollah, are they enough of 12vers that they believe that they're going to wash the world in blood and this is a good thing for them to retaliate?

Or are they in butt-saving mode

and may strike, but

they're not going to have their fingerprints really well known on anything?

Well, Glenda, let me tell you, I've thought about that an awful lot, and there's something to be said on both sides.

But here's where I come down on this.

Look at Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

He died at the age of 88, comfortably in his bed of old age.

The leaders of this regime, they can be 12ers and they can try to send the masses out to martyrdom, but they themselves are going to save their rear ends.

They've got airplanes waiting to take them out of the country should the regime start to fall.

I think they're going to save themselves, and I think the

person and the people who have replaced Qasim Suleimani are not going to take dramatic action against the United States because they know they're next.

And

is this something that

we play out?

We would be

well advised to play out by playing this almost like the collapse of the Soviet Union, tighten sanctions, help the people on the streets,

and make sure everybody knows how evil this regime really is, but we don't have to lob any bullets or any men over there.

Absolutely not.

And you're right.

This is like the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We can sit back, enjoy it, but help the people of Iran.

I think what we ought to be doing, and apparently we now have the capability of doing this, is make sure whenever the regime shuts off the internet that we turn it back on so the people of Iran can communicate to the rest of the world, so the regime cannot kill in darkness.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Kenneth Timmerman, he is the author of many books, one of them, Dark Forces.

You can find him at kentimmerman.com.

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You know, I have absolutely no interest in

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What?

Yeah, I have no interest in the world.

How will you know what movies they think you should see?

I'm going to have to wing it on my my own.

Oh, my gosh.

However, Ricky Gervais is one of my favorites.

He is brilliant.

He is brave.

His acting is good.

His directing is great.

His writing is great.

And he's unafraid.

We need more Ricky Gervaises.

Listen to what he said in his opening monologue last night at the Golden Globes.

He just handed them their heads, which I love, which I love.

You know know who he is?

He's the new Don Imos.

That's what Don Imus used to do.

And I'm going to share a story about Don Imus at the end of the program today.

But that's how, you know, people are like, well, Don Imos, he was a racist.

Why would you say those things?

Because

why is Ricky saying these things?

Why is he saying them?

He doesn't care.

He doesn't care.

He doesn't care.

And you know what?

Some of them are, as he said, just jokes.

They are just jokes.

But others,

you know, need to be said.

Need to be said to these high,

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And there's a level of celebrity that he has

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I mean, I think Louis C.K.

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And he was saying things that were really uncomfortable.

And I remember at times thinking, like, I can't believe they allow him to keep saying these things.

They allow him.

That's so unamerican.

Well, I know, totally, right?

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eventually.

He did go away after all of that.

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They're already looking for his old tweets for Ricky Gervais now.

They're already publishing articles in left-wing publications about how you should look back at the things he said.

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We were talking about the Golden Globes a little bit before and Ricky Gervais lighting up the press, or the Hollywood Foreign Press and Hollywood in general, over their pathetic actions.

And it's funny because they're so critical.

They're able to go on there and make all these speeches about global warming when they can't even stop molesting their actresses.

It's like, can you

stop touching every single 22-year-old that walks by you?

Then you can tell us about the 0.8 degrees temperature rise.

At that point, we'll start listening to you wanting to control the thermostat for the globe.

Try not grabbing each and every breast that walks by you, and then you give us the temperature advice.

Yeah.

So Ricky Gervais took them down.

Beyond that, I don't really care what the Hollywood foreign press says about any movie.

I've never, well, what did win a Golden Globe?

I've never done that.

Especially, I mean, the Oscars have that status at some level.

Used to.

I think they used to.

Yeah,

I think it's definitely fallen off.

But there's something about winning best picture

for an Oscar that I think has at least some cachet to it.

And I think Golden Globes, there's some level because they hit television.

Yeah.

So you hit maybe a little bit more than I don't know.

More than anything else, it's just a Ricky Gervais stand-up thing.

Oh, that's great.

Which I roast.

Yeah, it's fantastic.

And that's exactly what he did last night.

He roasted them.

I think.

I think 1917 won Best Picture.

Yeah, yeah, I did, which was a surprise, right?

They're expecting it to be maybe the Irishman,

which was okay.

It was okay.

i didn't think it was fantastic let me recommend i have uh i saw this movie twice while i was on vacation it's that good um

my son and i have been waiting for this film uh for

since the first time we saw the the trailer we were like oh my gosh and we love war movies um lone survivor american sniper the pinnacle has got to be saving private Ryan.

And I don't hold out, you know, hopes that something is going to be as good as saving Private Ryan very often.

This one

we did, and we convinced mom to come with us.

And we took two veterans with us of very different wars.

One was a Vietnam veteran, and one was a veteran of Afghanistan.

In fact, two.

We took three actually

over the two viewings.

And two of them were from Afghanistan.

All of us walked in, walking in with high, high hopes.

And we all walked out with our hopes and expectations surpassed.

It is, I mean,

we were all hoping that it would be good, as good as saving Private Ryan.

And we all came back out going, I think it's better.

I think it's better than saving Private Ryan.

And that is, I mean, that's a really high standard and warning.

Now that I've said that, your expectations are going to be so high, you're going to be like, no, it wasn't.

That's basically the highest compliment you could pay to a war movie.

Here's why.

I'm a big fan of Alfred Hitchcock.

And Alfred Hitchcock did a movie that very few people saw called Rope with Jimmy Stewart.

And he wanted it to be

with no edits.

And he wanted it to be with no edits because two reasons one it was a stage play and two

uh he felt it drew you into the movie more if you never take your eyes off you feel like you're in the room so that has three edits in it and i think they're 18 minutes apart something like that

uh

this movie the director wanted to do the same thing Now, the longest stretch, I'm told, was eight minutes, an eight-minute take.

However, I cannot see the edits in this movie.

I don't know where they edited.

Sometimes, you know, it's really easy.

They go down a, you know, a dark, shadowy hallway and you, you know, there's the edit.

I don't know where the edits are in this one.

And the reason why that makes a difference is because it's all shot from their perspective.

So it's all shot as if you're standing in the trenches and you're bumping by all the people

you're sitting on a body, or you're right there running with them on the field.

It is,

it makes this movie an experience.

I want to see it on IMAX because I think IMAX would be awesome with this movie.

So

I think...

It changes the story, the feeling of this movie.

It becomes an experience and not just a movie.

And World War I was one of the most brutal

wars in

all of our history,

and/or least modern history.

And I don't think we can really truly imagine what it was like.

And that

kind of bothered me going in.

I thought, oh, geez, this thing's going to be so bloody.

But it wasn't.

It is impactful, and you,

the only thing missing from this movie is the smell,

but you gain

an understanding without the

blood-soaked ocean and beaches.

It's really weird.

It's,

I don't think, nearly as graphic as Saving Private Ryan, and yet, even without the graphics, it makes Saving Private Ryan in some ways.

And no offense to that because I hold it in the highest regard, in some ways it feels like a Disney-fied version of war.

And it's never felt this way before, but it did this time because

this one you don't see the Hollywood actors.

This one revolves around two guys,

and I don't really know who they...

who they are.

They might be famous.

I don't know.

I don't really care.

But

they became just people that were on the nameless, faceless guys who fought and died in World War I.

And there are some big names in this, but they play very small parts.

And so you,

it becomes just these people that you didn't know.

And

that changes the experience as well.

And then there's something else that the director did that maybe is my imagination, but I don't think it is.

is.

I haven't read about it anywhere.

And it's something that's so subtle, I don't know if most people will even notice, but did you see the Ken Burns, not Ken Burns documentary,

what's his name made?

Lord of the Rings, the documentary that was made on World War I.

Peter Jackson?

Peter Jackson, where he colorized everything.

He cleaned up the film.

Did you ever see that?

I think I did.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

It's only amazing because it becomes real to you for the first time.

World War I has always seemed black and white, fuzzy, you know, choppy movements and fast, you know,

it's not real.

It's not that long ago, they colorized a lot of that World War II stuff with Hitler up in the

his hideaway there.

I mean, that's not even that long ago.

So this becomes real.

And World War I was real to me because my grandfather, my grandfather on the Beck side, he was in World War I.

And we had one of those old oval pictures with the round glass on it.

Do you remember even seeing those?

They were from around the World War I period.

And

he was in his uniform, and it was colorized because they didn't have color film back then.

And so it was colorized.

There are parts of this movie, especially towards the end, where he's washed the color out so much that it,

and I don't think the average person would know this, but it looks a lot like the Peter Jackson.

It looks a lot like that photograph that I remember.

So while it becomes real,

he's also enhanced it with his use of color to make it even more real if you saw those pictures or you watched Peter Jackson.

He didn't bring it,

I don't know, at least part of it felt like it didn't bring it all the way to today.

It still had that feeling of yesterday, at least towards the end.

Maybe it was my imagination, but I don't think so.

The storyline,

the shots,

all of it is just exactly what we hoped that it would be.

In my opinion, my wife liked it.

All the vets that went with me all said at the end,

that is only lacking the smell.

That's only lacking the smell.

We all agreed, because we walked out and none of us were willing to say it.

We all said it like this.

I think that's better than saving Private Ryan.

We all were just,

we all have reverence for that movie.

But this,

you leave the theater, saving Private Ryan,

you really understood what war was really like, World War II was like.

You'll have the same feeling about World War I,

but in this one, it's as if you're going to witness the act of heroism as if there was a camera, as if you were there

because you become part of it.

And the movie stars with great special effects all just go away.

This makes Saving Private Ryan feel like a movie, a Disney-fied kind of movie,

without more blood or gore.

And saying that this is a movie cheapens it, but saying this is a film makes it into something with pretense, and this doesn't have any pretense.

I think this is in a category of its own.

I think this is a war experience.

I think you go into this

and you're going to feel like you were in the trenches.

It rings true, it rings authentic.

And personally,

I think the slogan of the movie should be:

Don't see 1917,

live it,

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welcome the new affiliate with thinking about NFL football right now and a very tough weekend for the Bills fans as well.

You want to align yourself with evil?

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Is that what you want to do?

Sorry, Seattle.

Oh, it's crushing.

This is, of course, the one day a year.

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The one day a year Glenn cares about sports, which is the day after the Eagles lose.

Yeah, I don't care.

It's the only day he cares because he wants to torture me about it.

Yes.

And I hate that.

And I relish that.

I appreciate that.

I know you do.

You know, I could certainly point out that it was unfortunate that

most of the players on the team at this point were not even in the league at the beginning of the season.

It doesn't really matter, though.

It seems like potentially there's a strategy to take out the one healthy player they had.

I can point that out.

But that would make me sound like a complainer, which, of course,

it would make you sound like a sore loser.

Yeah.

Somebody who's just, you know, what about?

I don't engage in what about is.

I mean, the only good thing about it is most of the people around here, unlike you, because you have a real strong rooting interest of the Seattle Seahawks as of today,

but everyone here are Cowboys fans.

Did the Seattle Seahawks beat the Eagles?

They did.

Yeah.

Well, at least they practiced squad preseason version of the Eagles.

Yes, they did beat them.

However, most of the people around here are Cowboys fans, and it's very difficult for them to really talk trash to anybody at this point.

I mean, the Browns fans are talking trash to me.

I can switch teams at any time.

That doesn't matter.

I have no loyalty.

So I can't.

Anybody who beats the Eagles, I'm there.

You're like so many people in politics right now.

You just go with whatever position is popular at that moment.

So

I was with somebody who wanted so desperately to tease you about the Seahawks.

And I said,

you're not teasing him right now.

And he's like, oh, no, he's very superstitious.

No, Stu has rules.

You don't talk about it until at least halftime.

Is that true?

You don't engage.

I have to know the context of this.

I am very

understanding of,

I feel like if I talk trash about my team, they will definitely lose.

Like, it's that moment when I start talking trash and I get confident that they always lose.

So I never get confident and they still lose a lot, but at least they win a few games before before they lose.

And of course, there was the glorious, it's only two Super Bowls ago, where

the miracle of all miracles occurred, and the Eagles actually won the Super Bowl.

And I will never forget it.

It's really the defining moment of my life at this point, which I don't know says a lot about my life experience.

But hey, these people

know that.

You're the guy who bought your wife a new oven for Christmas.

Oh, we're all out of time for you.

Wait, but I talked about that.

But there's a lot more to tell.

on that.

Oh, shoot.

No,

let's just point out that Stu for Christmas thought it would be a good idea to buy his wife an oven

because, as Stu will tell you, the little women need to be kept at home, you know, cooking in the kitchen.

I don't know.

But unfortunately, we are completely out of time for him to define it any other way.

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Yeah, he seems to be turning the intensity down somehow, which is like

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Oh, it didn't.

It didn't.

We're going to talk to Steve Dace here next because we're going to get into politics now

with

Iowa right around the corner.

Steve is probably, not probably, he is the best on the ground at politics in Iowa.

He lives there, he knows it inside and out, and he'll give us the real feeling on the ground coming up in just a second.

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Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

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Now he's a warmonger.

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my show on the Blaze Radio Network and TV network.

Steve, welcome.

Gentlemen, Happy New Year.

I'm just patiently waiting for those articles of impeachment to be filed.

How are you?

Oh, just it's electric, isn't it?

I mean, it's just electric.

It's almost like they've forgotten about them.

You know, the Democrats are now just right on to something else.

Oh, my gosh, I ran.

That's why he should be out of here.

Indeed, 2018 ended with Trump's a Nazi, so give him all your guns.

And 2019 ended with.

Trump is an existential, clear, and present danger to our democracy.

So let's sit on these articles of impeachment for three damn weeks.

Makes perfect.

Just crazy.

Just crazy.

Okay, Steve, let's talk about Iowa and what's happening with the Democratic Party.

I want to play a clip from Joe Biden and listen to this.

He sounds like my grandpa did right before he passed away, where he's not really fully engaged here.

Listen to this.

Iran announced today.

that it's accelerating this nuclear program.

Guess who loses that?

Who's that?

America and its allies.

There was an airtight agreement we had with inspectors on the ground, the most intrusive inspection in all of human history, not hyperbole.

We knew exactly, we were in every single facility, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and they were not by that.

They're not good guys, but they were not moving towards.

Is it just me, or does he sound

a little

unexcited?

Unexcited, let's put it that way.

Well, I thought Robert Stack's voiced character in Beavis and Butthead to America actually did the most intrusive inspections in human history.

But that aside,

you know, what you're pointing out, Glenn, is what I have been saying on my show for the last couple of months.

And I'm not trying to be hot-take-y, so I got that hot take out of the way.

And I want to be really serious.

He sounds like the average guy who's 80 years old and has lived a long life and had done a lot in his life and been in a lot in a lot of high stress situations yes i i don't think he can do the job and i think that if if he were leading a rival investment group to take over a fortune 500 publicly traded company and you were in the other investment group i think you could at least get a hearing in front of a judge about his competency level of whether he's legally competent or not i agree and i think that's and i think that's why He has not taken off in this race.

And if you live here in Iowa, you see two Joe Bidens.

You see the one in the ads.

He's running a great ad right now.

Again, looking at it from a Democratic mindset.

He's running a great ad right now, and he sounds presidential about how terrible Trump is.

And if I only listened to that ad and I was a rural Iowan who remembered him with Barack Obama for eight years, that's the guy I would vote for.

But if I went out there on the campaign trail and actually saw him without the makeup and without the script and just interacted with him retail style, I would walk away shaking my head thinking, I don't know that this guy can be president.

And I think that's that's why, you know, when he first burst onto the scene last March, he had poll numbers on a national level into the 40s.

We've never seen anything like this, really, maybe since Fred Thompson was your flavor of the month 10 years ago.

And then the more and more voters in Iowa and New Hampshire have gotten a chance to look at him.

You've seen his numbers on the state level have flatlined compared to just the national name ID contest.

And it's because when you look at him up close, you just don't think he's up to the job.

But he still is number one.

He still is.

Is he going to take iowa do you think i don't i don't believe he'll win iowa and i think you know national polling in prime in in these primaries is irrelevant and here's why it doesn't matter what anybody in new york's opinion or california or montana yes or new mexico's opinion is they're not voting right now and and by the time the process gets to them a lot of these candidates are going to be gone and a lot of candidates are gone already So it really only matters right now what Iowa, New Hampshire, and then Nevada and South Carolina think.

All right.

So what is happening in Iowa?

What's happening in Iowa is, you know, Democrats have lanes just like Republicans do with evangelicals and libertarians and the Bush wing.

Well, there's wings in the Democratic, and, you know, Ted Cruz used to call them lanes.

There's lanes in the Democratic Party as well.

And the problem they're having is no one is able to break out of their native lane to consolidate support.

And so what we have now is you have Pete Budigic.

He is the candidate of the white suburbanites who desperately want a virtue signal to the leftists who hate them, who drive a Subaru, live in a cul-de-sac with a coexist bumper sticker.

And they love Pete Betagic because they're anxious to show you they're not a homophobe.

They've not looked at his qualifications.

That's his only qualification to them.

And then you have the college campus feminist, hard left crowd, loves Elizabeth Warren.

And then you have your old school Democratic, traditional labor, socially moderate, by today's standards anyway, Democratic Party that likes Joe Biden.

And you've got these candidates now, and Bernie Sanders is in there.

He's got his own base, you know, that he's sort of the Ron Paul of the Democratic Party.

He has his own insurgency base, and he's eating into some of Elizabeth Warren's a little bit as well.

But these four right now, it is very fluid.

Impeachment has chloroformed the room.

It's like if you opened the door, you would realize

it's a zero oxygen room.

I couldn't breathe in here.

It's made everything stale.

So I would take all polling numbers and everything else, and I would not listen to any of that until about a week from now.

I will tell you that, you know, the Bloomberg Register Iowa poll has been pretty good over the years.

That's Ann Seltzer's group.

I think she's actually with CNN now.

They actually called me yesterday, so I'm worried about how tight their turnout numbers are if they're calling me for a Democratic poll.

Okay, but I would wait and see what their numbers show, and then I would wait for this last debate before the caucuses.

And I could just throw in one more thing, too.

This is, I mean, February 3rd, we don't know what what the weather is going to be like.

So let's say there's a massive ice storm and rural Iowans can't get to their caucus site, but a bunch of campus feminists can just walk across the quad at Iowa, Iowa State, Grinnell, et cetera.

That could make a huge difference where this is concerned.

And then, Glenn, something your audience needs to know is the way that the Iowa caucuses are structured in the Democratic side is different than in the Republican side.

You know, you're not going to get four, five, six candidates with 2% on the Democratic side.

They're going to have a straw poll for relevancy right away.

And they get in that room, you know, 10 years ago in the 08 caucuses when it was open on both ends.

My caucus site, we shared a site with the Democrats

in the hall over us.

We could not hear ourselves think it was like a labor rally.

And so they get into that room and the emotion and the ethos begins and the id starts to flow and there's wide swings of opinions and college girls start bringing their moms and grandmas and say, don't you want to vote for Elizabeth Warren?

I think, you know, that creates a very fluid environment.

I do think we know who the top four are going to be.

I think, though, knowing the order is tough.

And keep in mind, not since

1988 was the last time there was a contested Democratic caucus that the winner of the Iowa caucuses did not win the nomination.

So anyone who tells you Iowa doesn't matter just doesn't know history or they're just not telling you the truth.

So what are the Iowans

waiting for?

What are they looking for that would be game-changing in the next couple of weeks?

This is really all about, there's one issue that is paramount.

Who can defeat Donald Trump?

The problem is, while that you would think, and

you've seen this in the Republican Party in the past, anybody but Obama.

But the problem is there's not an agreement on what that looks like.

Does a technocrat who doesn't address divisive issues and gives you a reassuring persona like a Mitt Romney, does that beat Barack Obama?

Does putting Mitt Romney or Barack Obama on a national stage to have a worldview clash like a Rick Santorum or a Newt Gingrich, does that do it?

And so there's the same arguments happening in the Democratic side.

I know it sounds nuts to us, but if you follow their media and their Twitter, they think the reason they're losing to him is they're not nasty enough and they don't lie as much.

And so

there's that debate that is, and I know Stu follows that, so I'm sure he can verify that for me.

So there's that whole debate.

And then there's the debate of we need a mainstream American source.

All right.

And so, you know, there's that, that's, that's actually what Joe Biden and Pete Buttigiger are both running for that.

Pete Pete Buttigieg never ever mentions homosexuality in his ads here.

He doesn't come across as any kind of activist, no effeminacy or anything of that nature.

He talks about being a soldier, a mayor of a small town in a red state.

And so

he has kind of eaten into some of Joe Biden's support with that crowd as well.

Do you think that

a couple of narratives that come out of this, at least in the political media, is one, the caucus sort of situation you talked about earlier that's raucous and really has passionate supporters, is a big indicator of potential upside for Bernie Sanders.

And that you get into the room where it looks like Warren's finishing third or fourth, and those Sanders people are going to bring the Warren people over to Sanders at the last minute.

And that, you know, with his fundraising numbers, he's doing well in New Hampshire.

There's a good poll for him today.

That, I mean, there is a path here for Bernie Sanders to be the nominee.

Do you buy into that?

I do.

And I didn't a few months ago.

I know it sounds morbid, but we started off talking about Joe Biden's competency.

So let's just go ahead and

round third while we're at it here.

But his candidacy has taken off since his heart attack.

He was dead in the water.

He was polling single digits in Iowa, single digits nationally.

He was behind Elizabeth Warren in New Hampshire.

His heart attack

has, if you go back and look at where his metrics were pre-that event to where they have been since, there's no question that that has been a galvanizing moment.

So you have to ask yourself, what the hell hell is wrong with people?

I mean,

a heart attack in an old guy, Ronald Reagan, even.

I mean,

that is not good news for somebody who's walking into a very high-stress job.

No, but

I think for his base, it sort of coalesced them that, hey, we've got a window of opportunity to go full Soviet.

We can't lose this.

That was number one.

And then number two is Elizabeth Warren made the mistake of being honest.

Well, as honest as she was willing to be.

I know she was the clear frontrunner.

She was getting challenged, hey, show your work on your Medicare for all plan.

And like the true Wellesley College for Women Dina faculty, she's always wanted to be, she thought, you bet, I'll put this all in a white paper and convince you that my one-size-fits-all plan, that you hated about Obamacare, supersizing it, you'll like it even more.

And even though it's what a lot of Democrats believe, it was a politically amateurish move.

And I think it made a lot of people that thought, hey, maybe she could beat Trump think if she's going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe at the first,

if she's going to answer the first booty political booty call here, then she can't lie well enough to do this gig.

She's just too much of a true believer.

And I think that has, that crushed her numbers because she had really eaten into a lot of Sanders' numbers.

She was kind of his softer side of Sears.

And when she showed that she could not match up politically with what they thought was going to be necessary to win, she's imploded.

Bernie has risen.

And

now you've got Buttigig and Biden fighting to be this more mainline candidate.

You've got this Amy Klobuchar, who from Minnesota, it's a neighboring state, who's not going to win here.

But if you get into that room and Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders' support is eaten up by the other, she could maybe surprise and finish in the top three.

She would only be taking votes away from Pete Buttigig and Joe Biden.

So that's why I think this thing is very, very fluid.

And I would caution anybody to make any dramatic pronouncements here until we get another week.

With that being said, dramatic pronouncements.

I would like you to.

If it were held today,

not in a couple of weeks, but today,

what would you say the landscape is?

If it were held today, it's going to be 50 degrees in Iowa today, and it's beautiful weather.

If it would be held today, we'd break a turnout record.

They'd be the highest voted in Iowa caucuses of all time by either party.

And then I think it would really just come down to when we get in the room, can Bernie Sanders and/or Elizabeth Warren's supporters, you know, whether it's the Soviet id versus the feminist id, what wins out there?

And that's, you know, that's that's a little bit like, you know, uh, asking me to forecast an apocalyptic event I hopefully don't want to be around here for.

So I don't know the answer to that, but it would come down to if one of those two in the rooms across Iowa can absorb the other support.

If they can, one of those two would win.

If not, then I think Pete Buttigieg would win.

But I don't think it would be an impressive win for anybody right now.

I think it's still very fluid.

Steve, thank you so much.

Make sure you follow Steve at Steve Dace Show.

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We'll talk to you again soon, my friend,

as we get closer to Iowa.

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So, I was

in thinking about things, sometimes I can get away and think about things that are right, not right at the front of my face, but

a little far off in the distance.

And I was talking to Stu today about how I think you have to start being really careful about buying cars now because I don't think you're good advice right after I got a new one.

So, I appreciate that.

Thank you.

You're always timely with this stuff.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I think I said not to buy a house right after you bought the house.

Right after that.

Yeah, you said definitely don't.

Whatever you do, don't do that.

Don't do that.

Don't do that.

So here's

a thought.

We were talking about cars earlier.

Cars are going to get harder for resale because if you look at the 19s compared to the 20s, a lot of these cars that you used to buy,

at least I used to, you'd buy the 19 in 20 because it was new.

They were motivated to sell it, blah, blah, blah.

And the body style really didn't change that much.

Well, it's not the body styles that are changing.

It's the electronics that are changing.

It's the software that's changing.

And really, only Tesla is

upgrading.

You know, every time there's new software, they just send it to the car.

And so technology is going to is tracking out.

I think we're also in a period of time with houses that housing has changed.

If you go to California and you look at houses, houses out west, especially,

they no longer have the formal dining room and the formal living room, which none of us have used in for how many years?

I mean,

Thanksgiving is at the time you all have to do it.

That's it.

That's it.

The rest of it is just wasted space.

Houses are changing, and I think they're changing in the same way that Victorian homes changed.

You know, there was an era when everybody wanted that Victorian home, and then that era was over, and like nobody for a long time wanted a Victorian home.

And I think that's where our homes are because technology is changing, and the use of space is changing.

And I have to tell you, Stu, I think I'm at the beginning of the road, coming to where you have always been, and that is

lease,

Lease your car,

lease your house.

I'm a big renting fan.

Yeah.

And I'm not.

Yeah, I love it.

But of course, now I'm not renting.

So now you're telling me it's a good time to rent.

No, I'm not.

That's what's happening right now.

No, I say we're at the beginning of this.

I think in 10 years' time, that's going to be the wave of the future.

Because

why own something?

It's like a phone.

You know, people are leasing iPhones now.

You have it for a year and you trade it in for the next

program, yeah.

Right.

Everything's changing so fast now that you kind of wonder what

is going to be permanent in 10 years.

What does the permanency even look like?

Yeah, there's that idea where you pay a lot for quality now and it'll last forever and it seems less and less like it's real.

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A personal note.

I lost a friend and

an idol of mine over the holiday season, Don Imus.

Don

the last message I got from Don was August 19th.

And it was this.

It was just a picture of him.

And it said

at the bottom.

It could have been taken at the wake.

No,

I mean, look how bad it is.

I mean, that's.

He would have appreciated it.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, he would have.

He would have.

And all he wrote was, Glenn Beck,

Glenn Beck is my leader.

To which I responded,

you still looking this sexy?

Well, the thing is, he was so brutal

in his humor that he appreciated it coming back to him.

He liked it.

He respected people

who knew, you know, it's like Ricky Gervais.

I think Ricky Gervais is today's Don Imos.

You know, they're jokes.

They're jokes.

They're not, there's nothing more behind them.

They're jokes.

What's the meanest thing I can say as a joke?

And if he meant it, he wouldn't have said it as a joke.

He would have said it and said, no, I really mean that.

Don had a problem with anyone who was a fraud.

Don had a problem with anyone who

really didn't know what they believed in and were cowardly.

And that meant really even coming after him.

I remember the first time I was on his show, his TV show, I was scared out of my mind because

you're dealing with, I think, the brightest mind on radio.

He was by far the smartest, most well-read

genius

on radio.

Legend.

Legend.

Absolute legend.

Legend.

He is.

Talk radio wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Don Imus.

Sports talk radio definitely wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Don Imos.

Sports talk radio wouldn't exist.

Howard Stern probably wouldn't exist.

No, he blinks that trail for sure.

I mean, Don Imus is in a category of the Hall of Fame that only really is the rarefied heir of

Bob Hope and

Jack Benny.

I mean, he is,

he is the pioneer of radio as it's done today.

And no matter what anybody says, he was not a racist.

He was not a racist.

He, and I'm not an apologist for Tom or for Don.

If there were

that matter, you know.

Or Bill.

If he had racist tendencies,

I would say something.

The other thing is, he wasn't right-wing either.

I was reading a column about him.

It was pretty glowing, other than this.

And at some section of the article, the person wrote, Was he a right-wing kook?

Yes, but

he's not anything like right-wing.

Why would you put Don Imus?

Why would the press put Don Imos onto the

White House press dinner

during the Monica Lewinsky trial or shortly thereafter,

knowing what he was going to say.

It was a ticket idea from the start.

Because they thought he was a friend.

A game player.

He was a game player.

Don was not a game player

at any stretch.

When he looked at Bill Clinton and made his jokes about, you know,

he'll sleep with any fat chick

to his face.

It was phenomenal.

And he kept going.

He just kept going.

Crossing swords with him was one of the greatest experiences of my life.

Knowing Don Imus

and being able to

foster a relationship with him.

I went back and I listened to some of the old things that we had done together and I looked at some of the things that we wrote to each other.

One of the last pictures he showed, he sent to me,

he sent a picture of him in the hospital, and he just looked like dog crap.

And

all it said was, at least I'm not fat like you.

I mean,

it's brilliant.

It's brilliant.

It's just brilliant.

Just brilliant.

And

I said something to him, like in my, I went on the air with him and I did not know.

I knew

he was saying, this guy's crazy.

This guy's absolutely out of his mind.

Crazy.

And so when I went onto his show, I knew

Don respects, I think, Don respects people who are smart and can cross swords with him and hold their own.

And I could be just as sarcastic and dark as Don could be any day.

And so I decided to really go after him.

And I don't remember what it was, but I remember we went into the break and they held me.

And they went into a break.

And he looked at me.

And this is how much of a racist he was.

He looked at me and he smiled.

And I said, how was that?

And he said, I was good.

And then he looked down and he said,

I know you're interested in Native American history.

And I said, uh,

yes.

And he said, there's a a book that you'll really appreciate.

And he told me about a book.

I can't remember what it was now.

I have it in my library.

And he said, any thoughts of we were the good guys there,

it'll be, it'll all be dispelled when you read this.

And I said, oh, okay, I'll read it.

And I did.

It showed to me how deep of a thinker he was, how much he knew who his guests were,

and how not racist he was.

And then we got back on the air and hammered each other some more.

And in my first or second email, I think it was maybe my first, I made the joke about how Deidre, his wife, wanted him to die before he burned through all of the cash.

And

I felt, I sent it, and it was one of the, it wasn't that nice.

It was really...

I do remember this.

It was much meaner than what you just described.

Yeah, it was really mean.

And I felt so bad after I sent it.

And I thought, what if I didn't put a smiley face?

He'd kill you if you put a smiley face.

And I can't put a smiley face.

What if he...

So I wrote to him before he wrote back.

And I said, hey, Don, just I just want you to know I was joking.

And the last.

He wrote back and he said, you and I will not be friends if you ever write something like that to me again.

If you don't think I can take a joke and know what a joke is from you, we're not going to be friends.

Yeah.

That's the only thing that you ever did that pissed him off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because he knew what a joke was.

Right.

And Ricky Gervais knows what it is.

Do you know how many times he said at the beginning of his

Golden Globes, it's just a joke.

He said it all up at the very beginning.

Yeah.

And took himself down first before he took anybody else down.

Right.

And he's like, I don't care.

I just don't care.

And that was Don Imas.

Now, let me tell you something, the rest of the story.

You've probably heard me tell the story before that I was sitting in Roger Ailes' office, and Roger said to me, and I don't know if I revealed that it was Roger Ailes that said this on the air,

but Roger Ailes said to me, You know what your problem is?

You won't play the game.

And I said,

No,

no, I know I won't.

And he said, That's the problem.

Look,

do you not think I knew

what Al Sharpton wanted?

Now,

what he was talking about was Don Imos

He said do you not think that that Al Sharpton called me before he sent a busload of people over here to picket against Don Imus?

Did you not think that we had already negotiated

how this was going to end?

He just needed a pound of flesh.

He wanted Don's pound of flesh, so I gave it to him.

And someday I'll get a pound of flesh from him.

That's the way it works.

I knew that.

NBC knew that.

We all know that.

But Don wasn't a game player either.

And Don refused to play the game.

That should be a badge of honor.

That should be in his obituary.

That's what people should be talking about.

Not the lie that he was a racist.

He wasn't.

That was something that was perpetrated on him to destroy him because he wouldn't play the game.

As soon as everything became about politics and have to be about choosing sides, Don didn't choose sides.

Don, first of all, always chose funny.

Don't cut funny.

There isn't anyone within the sound of my voice.

maybe perhaps two comedians

that refuse to cut funny.

That used to be the deal.

We all knew it was a joke.

Get over it.

Even Ricky Gervais said last night,

going into the Golden Globes, he said, yeah, well, I turned everything over to the attorneys because I don't want to be sued for anything.

So he had to run everything through the NBC attorneys so nobody in the room would sue him.

It's a joke.

I was surprised at how hard

I knew it would be a...

hard day and I'm glad I wasn't on the air for a couple of days after I heard about Don

because because I wouldn't have been able to keep my composure.

I lost a friend,

I lost a childhood idol and hero

and this industry

lost one of the greatest minds to ever be on public airwaves.

I've never done this

before,

but when I found out

from an email from Pat,

I couldn't really even speak to my own family for a while.

And so I went out in the dark and in the cold

and lowered my flag

because I think America also also lost somebody

who, no matter how he voted or what he believed, was the best politician.

He was an American, an American original.

An American that always stood

and said the truth, no matter the cost.

Thanks, Bab.

And what's Doris Kearns Goodwin going to do now?

I mean, where does she go?

Where's Kiki Friedman now?

And it sucks that he's dead, but at least he's not fat like you.

So

got that going.

He would have hated everything I just said.

Oh, gosh.

He would have hated everything I just said.

He would have loved it if I

roasted him.

And

maybe someday, Don.

No, don't give him what he wants.

Don't give him what he wants.

He's not going to win.

Damn him.

All right.

By the way,

I wrote to

Deirdre.

And

I would ask you that you would keep his family in...

prayers

for this reason and hopefully it's all over now

But I can't imagine being married to a man like that in multiple ways.

But

knowing who he really was

and

then seeing how he was remembered by the press after a lifetime of goodness.

And a lifetime of laughs.

I mean, he had his problems, and he admitted all of those problems.

But to be remembered, the way the press tried to paint him

had to be hard.

And I would just ask you to keep his family in their prayers,

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