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Oh my gosh, welcome.

I'm so glad that

you're here today.

We got a great program for you, right, Stu?

Yes!

It's almost like you don't know if you have a good show or not.

Sorry, I'm trying to put together this.

There's so much going on.

I know that's the problem.

We get in here.

I mean, I get in here at 6, you know, 6:30 every single morning, and there's so much to go through

that I just don't even know where to start.

We have Maxine Waters.

It's delicious.

We have another story that came out yesterday that is,

I mean, I think it's extra delicious.

We also have this Richard Jewell thing, an apology from a CNN reporter to Richard Jewell.

You know, now that he's dead.

And I think...

What did Richard Jewell say in response?

He say, thank you.

I mean,

he didn't even say thank you, did he?

Typical.

You know, he probably was guilty.

Let's have a new round of stories.

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All right, the program is coming up next.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

We are so excited to have

Greta Thurnberg joining us in just a few minutes.

No, we would never have her on.

We do have a couple of stories that I think are of great interest.

Of course, you know, everybody who believes that the Democrats are a little shady are conspiracy theorists.

However, they continue to say conspiracies on CNN and then just call them opinions.

It's amazing to me.

We begin there in one minute.

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Very excited.

Tomorrow I'm going to Turning Point USA, their big event in Florida.

And I'm giving the...

I think Charlie Kirk is giving the opening talk, and then I'm giving the keynote talk right after that.

I mean, you're excited.

Imagine how excited they are.

Wow.

Yeah, I'm not sure that they are that excited.

Is that what you were saying, Stu?

Not at all.

Not at all.

Not at all.

Could we just go through just a little bit of Maxine Waters?

Because she brought up a very good point last night.

Really?

Yeah, on CNN.

We play the Maxine Waters on CNN from last night.

Because I believe, even though I don't have the facts to prove it, I believe that Putin wanted to lift the sanctions.

He's always wanted to lift these sanctions that were placed on him because of his interfering with an incursion into Crimea.

And so I believe that they wanted to elect President Trump.

And Trump, I believe, agreed, I will always believe this, that he agreed that if he got elected, he would lift those sanctions.

He would like to do it.

He's not been able to do it.

You know, you notice there's no interruption at all from the CNN anchor.

Like,

wait, you started this with you don't have any evidence of this.

This is called a conspiracy theory.

This is a conspiracy theory, and they are constantly saying conspiracy theory from the left or from the right, conspiracy theory from the right.

All of the theories about Russia, everything we now know, if you watched last night's TV show, it's insane.

When I broke down what the IG actually said

and showed you the origins of the Russia investigation, it's all based on a democratic conspiracy theory.

All of it.

There was no reason to start this investigation.

It was all based on people like Maxine Waters going, I have no evidence of this, but I know this is what happened.

It's amazing they let that go.

I mean, one of the things, the standard operating procedure now with cable news networks is to use the phrase without evidence when it comes to things that Donald Trump says.

So let's say, Donald Trump, without evidence, said that the media is opposed to him or whatever it is.

And they just throw it out there.

like it's just this thing that he basically made up rather than the fact that he didn't maybe go through and list all the evidence but don't we all kind of see that the media is kind of against him right and so the only ones who can't see that the media and i think they do see it by the way uh they just don't like to say it uh but you know that is uh that's something they point out all the time yeah against donald trump but maxine waters can come in and tell you that she has no evidence

absolutely no evidence uh of this whatsoever but i will always believe stew is a mass murderer it was on this program yesterday and he still has not answered and he it is not proven to be untrue yet i kind of wanted to i like the little dangerous mysterious vibe so i'm gonna stick with it

people like the serial killers They get all sorts of letters in jail.

Oh, I know.

The women love them.

You'll get a series.

Oh, you'll be famous.

Oh, I got to get the Netflix true crime series.

I've got all sorts of stuff.

I can make appearances.

It's huge.

Huge.

I'm more, you know, because I'm fascinated at the explanations of these things because we've brought up a lot of

evidence about, for example, Hunter Biden and all the things that happened with him in Ukraine.

And we're told that that's a conspiracy theory when we bring up evidence.

But when we bring up the evidence.

There are actually wire transfer records of money going to offshore accounts for Hunter Biden.

There's actual records of that.

Nah, don't worry about it.

Yeah, this story from The New Yorker, which made some news yesterday,

largely because of one quote from Rudy Giuliani, who said when he wanted to get these investigations of Burizma going in Ukraine, the former ambassador, Yovanovich,

was in the way.

And the quote was something like, we needed to get her out of the way, or we couldn't get these investigations done.

So that has been spun in the media as if Giuliani was saying, well, she was a truth teller, and we wanted to lie.

And so she was in the way.

So we have to remove her.

I love that.

And it's like, that's not what he was saying.

He was saying she was blocking.

She was blocking the travel visas for the people that Giuliani was trying to interview.

And she was blocking them.

And we have evidence that she was blocking them.

It's admitted.

They admit it.

I mean, she says, well,

we didn't think that they should be here.

They were involved in what we thought was corruption.

We shouldn't invite them to the United States.

I mean,

okay, but that was Giuliani's point.

And she perjured herself because she said they never did that.

They never blocked anybody from coming in.

And it says here, at least in the New Yorker article, now they seem to be admitting it,

which is no surprise.

But listen, there's two pieces of explanation for these controversies

from them, which I found to be fascinating.

One of which, and I've watched your specials, I've never heard before.

I have uncovered new information

that you didn't have in your feelings.

I don't know if this is worthwhile.

Now, do you have evidence or did you get this from Maxine Water?

No, it's not.

It's better evidence than that.

It's coming direct from the source.

Okay.

Okay, so first of all, you have to understand that this is their explanation for the issues.

that went around with Hunter Biden.

Why was this even allowed by Joe Biden?

Now, this part we may have heard before, but I found it fascinating to hear it crystallized in this way.

Hunter, who has long struggled with severe drug and alcohol problems, had almost no expertise in the region or in energy, and many U.S.

and Ukrainian officials suspected that the co-founder of Burisma had put Hunter on the board in the hope of protecting himself from prosecution.

Again, this is their defense.

This is their theory.

They're way out on a limb here.

Some White House and State Department officials disapproved of Hunter's role at Burisma.

No, no, no.

They never said anything about it.

Nobody ever brought anything up.

And even there was not even a hint of impropriety.

Right, I know.

It's so weird.

They were concerned about the appearance of a conflict of interest.

The appearance of the appearance.

Which is a violation.

The only violation, really, is the appearance.

Right.

The government ethics code specifically says you cannot allow yourself to be entered into a situation in which the appearance of corruption is possible, especially when dealing with things overseas.

But they mostly

avoided discussing the matter with Joe Biden.

The vice president had a.

Now, think about this.

This is a guy who wants to run the free world, Joe Biden.

The vice president had an unwritten don't ask, don't tell policy when it came to his family members' business decisions.

Now,

that is completely unacceptable from a president of the United States.

I might have some problems.

I would just say it's pretty unacceptable, honestly, from any father in the United States.

You know,

Michael,

I'm just saying, you and Fredo, go out, do whatever you want.

No ask, no tell.

Right.

All right.

I'm not going to ask you anything about it.

That's what mob families do.

Right.

That's not what normal families do.

Normal families sit down and go, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You're doing what?

No, don't, don't, don't do that.

Remember, Biden's supposed to be the guy rooting out corruption all over the world.

Right.

But he won't even ask, let alone, you know, if he gets asked and gets lied to and maybe he was manipulated and it was a mistake, he's specifically not asking because he doesn't want to know.

Right?

Like, if your kid comes home and they're, you know, they've been gone for three days, and they come home and they've got white powder all over their face.

Don't ask.

Don't act.

You might want to wash your face.

I don't know what's going on.

And especially when you are the vice president of the United States and your son is a drug addict.

Yeah.

I'm not saying this in a disparaging way.

I'm just stating the truth.

He is an out-of-control drug addict who is going to destroy himself and the whole family.

You don't ask him about his business.

Look,

we all have our issues.

Hunter seems to have more of them than most.

Yes.

And certainly...

with his history and his problems with addiction, is completely incapable of drawing these lines successfully.

That is not something that Hunter Biden is able to do.

Clearly, the man, you know, look at what's just happened in Arkansas, where

his dad is in the middle of a presidential campaign and now has a new grandchild from a stripper

who was impregnated while he was dating the widow of his other son.

His other brother.

Yeah, his brother.

Of

Joe Biden's other son.

This is not someone who's capable of making these decisions in a reliable way.

And to implement a don't ask, don't tell policy for him is completely irresponsible.

Not by Hunter Biden, because we know that's irresponsible, but by Joe Biden.

I mean, their defense is he's completely irresponsible.

If you can have any sympathy, you can have sympathy in some ways for Hunter.

He's got a massive problem.

He's a massive problem.

And he doesn't seem to be successfully dealing with it.

And a lot of people can't successfully deal with it.

So you get into this world.

I'm sure it's impossible with the inertia of drugs and such to get out of it.

And

you feel bad for him.

However, when you're the president, you're going to want to be the president of the United States.

You're the vice president of the United States.

And your defense as to why you didn't see this coming was you didn't ask about it because you thought,

because no one wanted to have a situation in which he had to have the truth.

He actually physically avoided intentionally the truth.

Do you know why?

It's because it's not his money.

Listen, hear me out.

Imagine that it's Joe Biden Industries instead of the United States of America.

And he's on the board of directors of Joe Biden Industries.

He's very high up.

It's got his name on it.

And he's responsible.

And Joe Biden Industries goes out of business if they find out that there's any monkey business going on.

So he appoints his son to be, let's say, the chief business development guy, and he's just making deals, but some of the deals he makes for him and other deals he makes for the company.

Do you think the CEO, the chairman of the board, or Joe Biden wouldn't say to

his son, wait a minute, wait a minute, what is that deal over there?

Oh, that's mine, Dad.

Yeah, but that deal looks like you're playing it against the company.

So I got to know what that deal is.

Because, son, we're all out of business.

Yeah, you're right.

He would do that if it was his money.

If they were running a bakery,

he would ask every question.

But it's not his money.

It's our money.

It's our money and our reputation.

So there's nothing for him to lose.

He doesn't lose anything.

And he is so arrogant because look at what they're getting away with.

They have the cover of the press.

They are on the right side of history.

So they think they can get away with anything.

I mean, mean how Hillary Clinton can go travel the country right now and say oh you know what in this country no one is above the law oh my gosh oh my gosh I think I'm gonna hemorrhage from my eyes I could bleed to death in half a minute just from the blood shooting out of my eyes after hearing that now this is just Their explanation for this.

However, it's not the new breaking information.

Oh, it's not.

No, this is not why Hunter took the role.

Okay.

There's more.

Oh, there's a big one.

Okay.

All right.

Hang on just a second.

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You're gonna love it.

I can't wait.

You wouldn't even tell me off the air.

No.

Stu has been waiting for this for

about an hour.

Oh, yeah.

A whole morning.

Yeah, he's been waiting.

He's been like, I won't tell you.

I got to wait until we're on the air because you're going to love this.

Well, you've been breaking so much news on this Ukraine thing.

I'm glad to have something to break to you.

Okay, all right.

Okay.

Okay.

Now,

Hunter Biden.

Hunter Biden.

He's about to, he gets this offer from Burisma, this very shady gas company

over in Ukraine.

And he has no experience with gas.

No experience with the language.

Doesn't know the

language, right?

His dad happens to be vice president of the United States and doing gas investigations.

Yeah.

and granting money to gas companies.

Now that, if you're Hunter Biden, Kendall Roy from Succession, you might have a moment, a moment of hesitation there, right?

Because you're thinking,

why do they want me to do this job and they're going to pay me all this money?

This seems a little suspicious.

This seems a little out of the blue.

Exactly.

But hey, dad.

When I was all coked up last night, I was thinking, I could do that.

I could do that.

I could do that.

I have a gas.

I could learn the language.

I I mean,

who would pass on me?

Right, right.

So maybe you get, but you maybe have a moment of suspicion, and you're worried maybe about your dad's

political future and his reputation, right?

Now, he goes through a little of this hesitation as he's making this decision.

Do I take this job with Burisma?

And, you know, he gets the back and forth about, oh, we're serious about transparency and all the stuff you'd expect to get from a new employer, but he's still skeptical because he's, I mean, you'd be skeptical of the the situation.

Sure.

But then it happens.

You start doing your own research.

Okay.

You start looking into this.

Yeah, yeah.

And this is a quote from the New Yorker article.

All right.

Hunter felt reassured on a more personal level after doing some of his own research.

He read that the co-founder of Burisma had championed efforts to ensure that bears held in captivity in Ukraine were treated more humanely, opposing a long-standing practice of housing bears in open pits.

They are trying to make the case that Hunter Biden took the job at Burisma because he was worried about bears in captivity, that they were being held in open pits.

And this guy at Burisma was like,

No more bears in pits.

Come on board, Hunter.

You know, I thought I might be in bed with a bad guy, but then I found out he's against bears and pits.

I'm against bears and pits.

We came together.

It was on my match.com profile.

No bears and pits.

It was the one thing.

I had been praying and praying and praying.

How do I know what's true?

How do I know who I can trust?

No bears in pits.

And then I thought to myself, that doesn't make any sense.

But when I started doing my research, I saw he doesn't want bears in pits.

It was meant to be.

It certainly wasn't the $80,000 a month.

No.

It was, we didn't want bears to be left in pits.

We wanted them roaming free and probably murdering Ukrainians all over the country.

So let me ask you this.

What the hell does it have to do with him?

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know.

I don't speak the language.

I'm not qualified for the job.

This just might be a scam.

No, they love me.

I mean, the way it's presented is legitimately like, well, you know what?

It sounded bad, but then he seemed nice because of the bear thing.

So I took the job.

He's

what do you Vladimir Putin pets leopards?

And I got, I mean, I've never been to Ukraine, but like, am I going to walk by?

There's going to be big pits of bears everywhere?

Like, what can I tell you?

This is the worst.

Ukraine, after what the Democrats have done to them, will have a tourist rating of zero.

No one will want to go.

It's just nuclear waste, corruption, and bears and pits.

Oh, man.

I mean,

you thought they got far down the list of bizarre explanations, and then they're like, well, bears and pits.

We always have that one.

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Hello and welcome to the Glenbeck program.

We're so glad that you're here.

I can't believe Christmas is Christmas next week.

It's like yes, Tuesday.

Eight days away.

We're eight days away.

That is craziness.

This year has flown by.

Oh, man.

Welcome to the program, Mr.

Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.

You can get it wherever you get your podcasts and listen to his program.

Very funny, very informative, very Pat.

We have some new information.

Stu has some breaking news.

This came from, I want to say,

Vanity Fair.

New Yorker.

Okay, you know, what's the difference?

The New Yorker has just released information.

Now,

if Stu and I were to ask you, Pat, why did Hunter Biden take the job with Burisma?

Because he was skeptical, apparently to the New Yorker.

He was

skeptical that this job was on the up and up.

So what convinced him to take the job?

Money?

No, $150,000 a month?

No, no.

That had nothing to do with Hunter.

Come on, that's stupid.

Right.

What convinced him?

What convinced him?

He wanted to help the Ukraine.

Oh.

Well, well, now he's got it close.

Now listen to this.

Listen to to this.

Hunter felt reassured on a more personal level after doing some of his own research.

He read that the co-founder of Burisma had championed efforts to ensure that bears held in captivity in Ukraine were treated more humanely, opposing a long-standing practice of housing bears in open pits.

So he did some research and he's online and he's like, oh, the guy doesn't want bears in pits.

Oh, I don't want bears in pits, he doesn't want bears in pits.

I think I'll go work there.

Yeah, that's right.

Wow, nothing to do with the money.

No,

so uh, just the producers in the other room, I want you to reach out, Sarah.

I want you to reach out, and I'm serious to Hunter Biden.

Uh, I know he's been skeptical of coming on the program, he hasn't wanted to do any interviews, but just tell him that, yes, he's skeptical, but Glenn Beck doesn't want bears in pits either.

So he's totally safe to come on.

He should be on tomorrow.

He should be on tomorrow.

Oh, I think so.

Yeah.

Look at all you have in common with him.

Yeah, we have bears and pits.

Neither of us want bears.

Do you know anyone who's like, yeah, I'd like a bear in a pit?

Apparently everyone else in Ukraine wants bears and pits.

Well, I mean, now, see, we're not with that culture.

I was going to say, Eskimos, they might want bears in pits.

Yeah, when you're about to get ripped open by a bear, you want the bear in a pit.

But other than that, you you don't want bears in pits.

You know, in theory, none of us want bears in pits.

In theory.

In theory.

Yeah.

In theory.

If only we could live in a world like that.

Oh, where you don't have bears in pits.

We do live in a world like that.

We do.

Yeah, we do.

There's not bears in pits?

Yeah, and I don't know how many times I have tossed and turned, tossed and turned, and thought to myself, man, I could have such a great job in the Ukraine if it wasn't for

the fact that they keep bears in pits.

Who even knows that?

Remember when we wanted to go to Kiev in 1992 and do that morning show?

We couldn't.

No, because the guy who ran the radio station, he wanted bears in pits.

He was like one of the leaders.

It was like, I run the club, more bears in pits.

Would you work for someone who is neutral on bears in pits?

No, I don't think so.

I only want people who oppose it.

not pro bears and pits or neutral

you must be anti-bears and pits if i walk into somebody's office today and they don't look up at me and just go geez glenn have you heard about the the travesty that's going on

the bears and pits problem i don't even want to be in their office today i picture this being like they all got together at some vacation house and they all said, okay, Joe's like, I'm running for president here, and we know this burisma stuff's going to come up.

We need every single excuse possible that we mightn't have to get through this because it's going to be a firestorm.

So, every whole family, all the advisors put in slips of paper, post-it notes with all their excuses.

They've now gone through the entire giant bag of excuses.

And the last one at the very bottom was, I mean, the guy opposed Bears and Pitts.

And they were all laughing.

A year or two ago, they were all laughing, going, We'll never get to the Bears and Pets thing.

I mean, we've only got that one.

And Hunter was like, Mom,

i really mean it

bears in pits just

i don't i i i really think i love this man i i love him so much because there's not a single

he didn't wear a single bear in a pit even the bad bears even the bears was like he's in fact he he doesn't even like depressed bears bears in the pits like that like i'm down in the like a pit of despair

i did prozac for bears and

ladders

for every bear.

They're at the point like when you're leaving the McDonald's drive-thru and you're just digging through for that last fry that fell out.

And they just pull it up and it just says bears and pits.

And they're like, all right, let's go with it.

The New Yorker's here.

What else are we going to say?

But you know what?

It's time.

But if you're looking at that as a McDonald's french fry, when you find that last one, it is like gold.

You're like,

oh, the last French fry.

So they may in the Biden family be going, oh, the Baron Pitts thing we completely forgot about.

We didn't have to want to, we didn't want to play this card.

But here we are.

It's Bears and Pittsburgh.

I mean, can you believe this is what they're trying?

Oh, my gosh.

Yes.

This is what they get away.

They get away with it.

Because they have the media to cover for them.

Yes.

Because the media.

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine if I said, look, the reason why I thought that Barack Obama was a racist is because

he's never spoken out about bears and pits.

No, I don't think they would have.

I don't think they would have.

I don't think they would have.

I could have said that about anything about bears and pits.

They would never,

I could be a

barologist, and they would still say that's a ridiculous,

ridiculous excuse.

I didn't realize it was such a sign of virtue though i i think we should make t-shirts i oppose bears and pits and see i could i want t-shirts i'm for bears and pits i want a t-shirt with just a pit in it and a sad little bear in the bottom of it looking up

it's like the international sign we will not hire hunter biden yeah it's just you put a sticker on your door don't apply hunter biden need not apply yeah we we support bears and pits Can we get a t-shirt?

I want a t-shirt.

Write this down.

I want a t-shirt with like a bear that looks kind of like baby Yoda with the big eyes down in the bottom of a pit.

Hunter Biden need not apply.

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You still like it?

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Are you watching it?

Yes.

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I hated them all.

And

a series now that's just kind of so-so.

And I'm still eagerly anticipating every

episode.

So I like the fact that I like the fact that I'm watching it basically for Baby Yoda.

I like the fact that Baby Yoda continues to try to make things levitate.

I love that.

Yes.

And may or may not be able to.

They're right.

I guess.

It's so great.

I love that.

I keep waiting for him to say, judge me by my size, do you?

But he never does.

Even while he is saying,

So I'm really watching it at this point for Baby Yoda.

However, the last episode last week I thought was good.

And I have to say it like that.

It's

good.

Yes.

The last two episodes before that, I'm kind of like, okay, all right, I need something.

You know,

what are we doing?

First of all, take the tracker out of Baby Yoda.

I don't care what you have to do.

You've got to have some scan that can show that, can make baby Yoda stop going beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

I mean, stop.

Take the tracker out of him.

And because they know that it's in there.

And if it's in his blanket, get him a new blanket.

Whatever it is.

Stop with the tracker thing.

And I also need to see an advance of the storyline right now.

It's just like, it's like one of those old shows.

Like, I don't even know.

I don't even know.

It's like gunsmoke or something.

No.

Because they weren't really connected.

They weren't really connected.

Yeah, they weren't really connected.

A new guy would ride into town.

They'd be like, oh, there's going to be trouble.

And it was never connected to the next episode.

And that's kind of all pretty standalone.

And I hate it.

Like Law and Order is like that.

Right?

You have the same main characters, but there's just a new trial that they're existing.

Those ones seem to have progression of the characters.

You're watching them for the characters and their interaction with people.

He has no interaction with the same people.

and he's in a mask, so you can't like, oh, look at his eyes.

He's kind of shifty there.

Right.

There's nothing.

And he continues to go to bars and sit down, but he can't drink because he can never open his mask.

Yeah, he can't eat or drink or go to the bathroom as far as I can tell because he can't take off any of his uniforms.

These are really high reviews.

I have not started watching it yet.

I kind of plan to, but I don't know.

Maybe I don't.

Yeah, well,

we're kind of on the fence.

That's where I am.

I'm kind of on the fence.

I'm like,

everyone, Star Wars.

So it keeps pulling me along.

Just like this Friday thing, I'm looking forward to going to the new movie, even though I haven't liked the last eight.

I mean, that's how much goodwill they built up with the first three.

I'll do anything for it, I guess, in perpetuity for Star Wars just because of the first three.

It's so strange.

It's kind of ridiculous.

And if they continue to do bad,

I mean, look, let's be honest.

Disney hit a grand slam with baby Yoda.

But they can only milk Baby Yoda for so long.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I know he's 50, so it's going to be a long time before he grows out of being cute, before he gets to that Urkel that is like, okay, you really have to stop.

He's 50.

What?

Where'd you get that?

He's 50?

All throughout it.

For the first two episodes.

They said he was 50.

He's 50 years old.

He's 50 years old.

I missed the fact that he was 50.

Yeah, he's 50 years old.

I had no idea.

Yeah.

He's 50?

He's 50.

Yeah.

Well, remember, he's like, what, 900 years old?

Yes.

Okay, so he's crazy.

He's 50 and he's still...

Which the whole point is, he's supposed to be like super smart and everything.

It took him 50 years to speak.

I mean, that's not...

I know, that's pretty prophetic.

But he seems to know who the good guys and bad guys are.

Yeah, he's got a sixth sense.

He does.

A sixth sense.

He's got this.

He's got this baby Yoda radar thing.

Did you see one of my favorites is when he's trying to heal the Mandalorian, and the Mandalorian is just

angry with him.

Did you see that?

Where he's like sitting by the fire and he's got a scratch on his arm or a cut on his arm and baby Yoda.

Somehow or another getting out of that floating crib.

Like,

and you don't see it.

And he's standing right at the feet of the Mandalorian with his finger like,

I'm going to heal you.

And the Mandalorian looks down at him like, ah, geez.

puts him back in the crib, continues to put a bandage on his wound.

All of a sudden, Yoda's at the feet again.

I'm gonna heal you.

Man, stay in the crib.

It's fantastic.

What about baby Yoda in a pit?

Is that okay?

Hunter Biden would definitely go work for that company.

Yeah.

George Lucas in a pit.

I dig the pit.

Because then you get no more.

You get no more Lucas involving.

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Are you going to Star Wars this weekend?

I am going Thursday night.

Are you really?

Yes.

I haven't gotten my tickets yet.

I bought them a long time ago.

For some reason, I bought them like the day they came out.

So I'm very excited about it.

And again, I think, you know, I don't quite agree with Pat's analysis of the series.

Like, I don't think they've all been bad since the first couple.

I think there's been some good ones.

There's been some good ones.

But it is.

If everybody's doing a power ranking, we should do our power ranking at some point.

Yeah.

We have time to do it now.

Yeah, we've got a couple of minutes.

Two minutes.

So if you look at all of them and you include the old ones and the new ones.

And the spin-offs.

And the spin-offs.

There's some.

10 movies to 10.

Number one.

Number one.

Tell me where you disagree.

Number one, New Hope.

I go number one, Empire Strikes Back.

Number two, I might, you know what?

I might switch that.

Yeah.

Because number two was Empire Strikes Back.

And I had New Hope and number two.

Most people are going to be there.

Yeah, I think I'm with you on that one.

Number three, Return of the Jedi.

I do disagree with this one.

With most people.

Okay.

Where do you put Return of the Jedi?

I put it.

What do you have as number three?

Force Awakens, which I know a lot of people don't like, but I like that one.

No, I have that as number four.

Fourth Awakens, then number five, Rogue One.

I had that four, so we're not far off.

Yeah, number six is Solo.

Wait, wait, aren't you at number five?

Oh, number five is Rogue One.

Rogue One, okay.

Okay, number six is Solo.

I had that at eight.

Number seven is The Last Jedi.

See, I had that one like I was going back and forth between last and second to last.

I did not like that one.

No, no, no.

I'm at seven.

Number eight is Attack of the Clones.

Number nine, because of Jar Jar Binks is still in it.

Number nine is Revenge of the Sith.

And number ten is Phantom Menace.

I mean, those first three have to be.

They have to be last.

Yeah,

I guess I probably put Phantom Menace last.

Though Last Jedi,

when I watch it, I watched it recently again, and it was like, I'm like, this isn't that bad except for a couple of really bad moments.

But it just feels like not even a Star Wars movie.

But you just have to remember, that's number seven.

It's just barely beating out Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, and Phantom Menace.

I mean, it comes a point where it's like, yeah, it's all kind of trash after this.

Yeah, yeah.

They're about 50-50, I think, on like movies I actually liked, which is not a great ratio for like the biggest franchise of all time.

No, and one you're so loyal to that it opens up and you're like, of course, I have opening day tickets.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

Thank you so much.

All right, here we go.

Empire 1, New Hope 2, Force Awakens 3, which is controversial.

Rogue 1, 4.

Attack of the Clones, 5.

Return of the Jedi, 6.

That's going to piss people off.

Revenge of the Sith, 7.

Solo, 8, Phantom Menace 9, Last Jedi, 10.

The more I talk about Last Jedi, the worse it gets in my head.

When I was watching it, it wasn't as horrific.

Last Jedi, number number 10.

Yeah, I think it's 10.

Over Metachlorian.

I'm giving Phantom Men.

Charger pinks and trade talk.

I think if I watched him again, I might switch those two.

I went back and forth, but you know why I because I think Phantom Menace is a bad Star Wars movie.

Last Jedi is not a Star Wars movie.

Like it's just like it's not part of it.

It doesn't feel like it.

It doesn't have the characters are all doing things they never did before.

Like Luke is all of a sudden a completely different person doing all different things.

They've got like a a telephone service set up, like long distance, like dialed down the middle, 10, 10, 220.

And then they're just like,

let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this.

Is this the one?

Because you may have me at hello here.

Is this the one where she's sucked out of the window and then comes back to life?

Yes.

Yes.

That's horrific.

You may be right.

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Can 20 U.S.

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Is a trap being set for Trump in the Senate trial.

It's a trap!

An interesting perspective from Douglas McKinnon.

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I don't even know what loyal Republican senators mean anymore.

Douglas McKinnon joins us now.

Hello, Doug.

How are you?

Glenn, thanks for having me back on.

I really appreciate it.

Yeah, no, not a problem.

I'm fascinated by this.

Tell me the theory here.

Well, the theory is, I think,

as we have talked about in the past, I had the high honor to work for President Reagan in the White House as well as Bush won.

And I think this White House, as good as they are, and I'm a supporter of the President, I think Trump is the best president since President Reagan.

That said, I do believe the President and the West Wing are putting way too much faith in the Senate.

And it's one of these things where I talked to two,

one senior staffer and a former senior staffer up on the Hill who told me that there were a number of meetings going on behind closed doors between a number of Republican senators.

And the fear is that with the weight of history, and as you and I understand very, very well,

Even most, quote, as you just said, you know, what's a loyal Republican senator, right?

Because the vast majority of these Republican senators, either privately or publicly, can't stand President Trump for a lot of reasons.

The main reason being Lynn, they can't control him.

They've never been able to control him.

They can't predict what he's going to do.

And so, because of that, does it make more sense for them to have someone who's part of the club become president and someone who's part of the club, who's a good guy, by the way, but is vice president, Mike Pence, but Mike Pence is part of the club?

And again, how easy would it be for just you only need 20 of the 53 Republican senators to say, wait a minute, I think here's our historic opportunity to remove a president none of us like.

And again, the conventional wisdom is

the president's going to get acquitted in the Senate trial.

It's going to be a slam dunk.

But my whole point is, and the point of these two stoppers that I was speaking with, was let's not assume that.

And as I said in the piece, too, one of President Reagan's favorite lines was, okay, let's trust but verify here.

So how do you verify?

Because I mean, I go back and forth, Douglas, on this.

I look at

what really happened and what really went on with the Democrats in Ukraine and this whole thing with the press.

It must be exposed.

With that being said,

I'm not sure it will be exposed because I think people like

possibly Lindsey Graham,

you know, what's his name, Turtleface,

in the Senate.

Yeah, McConnell, thank you.

I think these guys

don't want things exposed either.

They want to continue to play in the club, and they probably are dirty along the same lines as

what the Democrats have

looked like they've been up to.

And Donald Trump is a hand grenade, and he went off and he exposed a lot of this dirt.

And I'm not sure that

there

people on both sides that want this to stop.

Well, I agree with you in that sense, too, what I always tell people that are fresh to the United States who don't understand the system.

I said, amazingly, if you watch the movie Mr.

Smith Goes to Washington, which was made 80 years ago, and you look at the Taylor machine and what's going on is he's controlling various members of the Senate, basically nothing has changed since the time that movie aired 80 years ago.

And that's one of the things where Trump is coming in, and he is the disruptor.

What Nikki Haley, Governor Haley, said, you know, one of the reasons so many people dislike him is he is a disruptor that can't be controlled.

And so, to your point, it's one of these things where who can you, in fact, trust?

And my point, and the point of these stoppers, is: well, don't trust anybody because ultimately there's a historic opportunity here for 20 Republican senators to change history, to invalidate the votes of 63 million Americans who voted for President Trump and to join with basically Glenn, the deep state,

and create this unofficial coup and remove a legitimately and constitutionally elected president of the United States.

It really is chilling.

Okay, so why do you think that this has a chance of happening?

Because

when they were talking about articles of impeachment, look at the numbers with the people.

The people are not for it.

The Democrats are even having defectors.

When they started this, they said, you you know, we think we could probably get 10 or 20 Republicans on board.

They couldn't even get all Democrats on board for this.

Well, I mean, and that's the thing, and that's the conventional wisdom, right?

And again, the conventional wisdom says 99.9% chance, you know, the Senate's going to acquit.

Everyone's going to be happy.

And I do suspect that may be the case, but the whole point here is I think the Trump White House is going into this with eyes sort of, if not fully closed, somewhat squinted in terms of what's going on in the Senate, what conversations are taking place, you know, who can we double check with,

and what can we be doing that we're not doing right now to protect ourselves and to protect this president.

And I'm a little bit surprised that there's at least no conversation emanating from the west wing of the White House that publicly puts these guys on notice.

You know, I think that would be a smart strategy.

So, Douglas, what are the things you're watching for as a political consultant?

What are the things that you're watching to see if this tide is going in or out?

Well, I think one of the things that people should be paying attention to are what conversations are taking place.

Are any conversations, you know, and this is where you have to have sort of insiders that are leaking some of this information

and saying, are there conversations taking place between certain senators in the West Wing?

Are there certain conversations taking place between certain staff members and the vice president's office?

I mean, there's a lot of different things that are happening beneath the scenes.

And it's one of these things where this is such a unique opportunity.

And as we know, you know, before, you know, President Clinton was never going to get impeached.

President Nixon resigned before he could go through this.

But it's a totally different dynamic, Glenn, with Donald Trump because he is a one-man band.

Washington, D.C.

has never seen anyone like him in its history.

He basically got elected by himself.

And so for all those reasons, and to your point about this club being even whether it's Lindsey Graham or Mitch McConnell or others, he is a disruptor that they would, if it was a perfect world, as we both know, Glenn, and if they could just flip a switch and make him disappear,

they would do it tomorrow.

Yeah, they would.

All right.

Let me switch subjects with you because I know you have a new book and I didn't even, you know.

You're not on to talk about it, but I wanted to talk about it.

You have a new book out, The North Pole Project, in Search of the True Meaning of Christmas.

Can you tell me about it?

Sure.

Yeah, it's just people tend to be walking away from Christmas left and right, and people tend to be forgetting about just the Christmas spirit and what does it mean.

And so the story is basically about a multi-billionaire who lost his way in life.

He ended up getting, you know, the trophy wipes and all these things, and he's got $54 billion,

and all of a sudden, he's 50 years old, and he's totally lost in life.

And he's sitting in his 35-room mansion by himself one day, contemplating doing the worst, when he gets a call from his minister minister brother in Texas who says, what is wrong with you, Christian?

You have to try to save yourself.

And

this 50-year-old billionaire, when he was a child with his brother living on an Army base, he used to collect money to give presents to the other poor children on the Army base.

And his minister brother says, Christian, become that person again.

Become Santa Claus all over again.

And so this billionaire literally decides to recreate the North Pole and Santa's workshop on the North Pole.

And not only does he do that, Glenn, but he recruits people from all over the world as his quote-unquote elves who they themselves are going through some of the worst that life has to offer.

And they are sort of healed by joining this project.

And together, these people change the lives for the better of over 500,000 orphans around the world.

So

is this a story that can be read with your kids, but is kind of like Harry Potter can be read by an adult and enjoyed, but also the little older kids, too.

100%.

It's one of these things where people, we're getting emails now from people that are exactly doing that.

Every night, they're reading one chapter with their families out loud because it really is sort of reinvigorating the Christmas spirit in all of them, and that's what makes me the proudest.

For me, I didn't take a dime for this book, by the way, Glenn, and everything goes to charity.

That's great.

Douglas McKinnon, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

The name of the book is The North Pole Project.

And his article, which I think is

possibly right on the mark, is a trap being set for Trump in the Senate trial, is available at the Hill.

Thanks so much, Douglas McKinnon.

Thank you, Clint.

You bet.

I will tell you that

we're getting to a point to where kids don't read books anymore.

And even my son has slowed down on books.

And my son was a faster reader than I am.

I mean, he could finish a novel in a day and a half.

He would race through books and just loves to read and has,

you know, now that he's in school, has slowed down on his reading.

And I hate it.

I hate it.

I didn't like to read when I was a kid.

But you have to find the right book.

And, you know, I didn't grow up in a family that was reading to us or anything else.

And so I read the first book I ever read when I was

18 and living on my own was Sherlock Holmes.

And I read it just for fun.

And it was the first book that I really read for fun.

And I probably read it three times because I thought no book could be this good.

And then I

started just reading all kinds of other things and loved it.

And reading is just tremendous.

if you find the right book.

And I start to read a lot of books and don't finish a lot of books because it's like, okay, it's not worth not worth pursuing any more than this because I like this, but I don't love it.

And

I just urge you to read to your kids and

get some books for Christmas.

I told you yesterday about this Freedom series that you can get it at Libraries of Hope.

I think it's librariesofhope.com.

Or what was the address?

Let me look it up.

It was

no, that's the old address.

Anyway, they're the Freedom series.

And if you just Google Libraries of Hope and Freedom series, you'll be able to find the website that they're at.

But they're great, and they're the old stories of

America and our founding and our principles.

And they're just a whole, there's lists and lists of great books that are all of the

original stories.

You can find them them at welleducatedheart.com.

Welleducatedheart.com.

If you've never read any of my stories, you know what's weird, Stu, is Christmas sweater is catching on a second time, but like in Europe.

Yeah, I'm seeing all these

posts from Poland and

I don't think the Ukraine

and Hungary and all of these countries that were right behind the Iron Iron Curtain,

it's like taking off again in those languages, which is strange and odd.

We used to have a collection of all the different languages it was printed in.

Yeah, remember that?

20 different languages, I think.

That's bizarre.

Yeah.

But the Christmas sweater, if you've never read The Christmas Sweater, that is based on my childhood and my experience.

Someday I want to rewrite it because I don't like the ending.

It was the first novel I read in

what every time you bring this book up, you have to talk about how you don't like the ending of your own book.

Every single freaking time you bring up the Christmas sweater for the last 10 years,

you talk about how you don't like the ending to the book.

Everybody else does, I don't.

And also, there's another book out of mine that is Christmas called The Snow Angel.

I wrote that for my sisters.

If you know somebody who

struggles with their dad,

it might be a good Christmas present called The Snow Angel.

And my favorite Christmas story that I've written is

the, what is it?

Yeah, The Immortal Nicholas.

What is it?

Because I couldn't remember.

I knew it was Immortal, but then they made me change the title.

Immortal Nicholas.

So you don't like the title of that book, and you don't like the ending of the other one.

Yeah, but I like the story of The Immortal.

The Immortal Nicholas is

my attempt.

I wrote it for my children, and it is is my attempt to find a way to bring Christ back into Christmas and to explain the origins of Santa.

And so the main character is Agios, who is living at the time of the birth of Christ.

And how does this guy become the immortal Nicholas?

And it takes all of the traditions of Christmas and explains all of them and makes everything

Christ-centered.

And

it's my favorite story.

I worked on it, worked on it, worked on it for years, retelling the story to my kids over and over and over again and adjusting it until we got it just right.

And I love it.

It's the Immortal Nicholas and it's great for your family, especially Christmas time.

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Are you nervous about

the okay sign like everyone else is in the country?

Well,

no, not at all.

In fact, I'm really hacked off.

Is it the Navy that is

doing Navy game the other day?

Stop it.

Stop it.

It's ridiculous.

And again, they all admit that this is not even real.

It's not a white power symbol.

It was used and created for this

as a joke by 4chan, the message board, who said, you know, we should screw with the media and make it seem like the okay sign is a white power symbol and eventually they'll believe it.

They are.

They know they're the victim of this.

And yet they still continue to do it.

And now we have a situation where, think about this.

We've got two random cadets who gave the okay sign and are under investigation.

Under investigation.

Where people like, you know, Elon Omar will come out and say blatantly anti-Semitic things and no one seems to care.

You have Rashida Tlaib tweeting about

a situation where she's blaming murders on white supremacists.

And when it finds out,

we wind up finding out that it's black Israelites

who had committed the murders.

We have, by the way, the black Israelites were part of the

shout down on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

With Covington.

We talked about them.

We've talked about the black Israelites for a long time.

They're a very bad group.

You also have a guy running for Congress in California who is wildly, wildly anti-Semitic and racist.

And it doesn't seem like they ever have to, like, has Rashida Dali doesn't even have to comment on it.

She just deletes the tweet and no one ever asks her about it.

I mean, think about the media for a second.

I'm fascinated by this one.

I keep coming back to it in my head.

The idea that this whole thing with James O'Keefe, where he has this leaker from inside of, what was it, ABC?

Mm-hmm.

And had all these tapes came out.

And then they called over to CBS, where the person supposedly now worked, got her fired.

She's fired.

She was not responsible for the leaks.

They do this interview.

Megan Kelly does an interview with the woman who outlines the whole story.

At no point

are any of the networks required to even comment on it.

They don't have to come out and explain themselves.

They don't have to say that they have a Me Too violation.

They victimized this poor woman who was working there and did nothing wrong.

They don't have to do anything.

They never have to answer for anything.

The right must have a credible news source.

An associated press needs to be formed.

You're listening to Glenn Back.

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Looks like Mitch McConnell says it's not the Senate's job to get to guilty.

If the House wanted evidence and witnesses, they should have found them.

Should have called them should have found the the evidence we're not calling witnesses in the Senate so there doesn't look like there's going to be a trial

it looks like it's just going to be either an up or down vote to toss it out or acquit the president they should acquit the president

if that's their choice of not calling any witnesses they they've got to vote to do that otherwise

you know anything could happen and they could bring this back up again.

So all these charges would go away if he was acquitted of it and you couldn't do it a second time.

I mean, it's incredible.

It does seem like it's what the White House prefers.

At least, you know, I guess we'll see if Trump comes up with an angry tweet about how he can't get his witnesses.

Maybe we'll know the opposite.

But

all indications are from both sides that they're working together on the plan here.

And maybe Trump is just deciding, look, you know, we can go down this road, but I'd rather get it over with and move on with my life and move into the election time and

not be focusing on impeachment, which I certainly understand.

I just, it's frustrating because there's so much here to go into that the American people need to know about.

And without, I think, the Senate trial, I don't think they ever will.

I mean, you know, you'll have some people who will know it from actually doing their own research, but I don't think as far as the, you know, large swath of the American public and voters are ever going to really know the truth of this

Which is

horrendous and puts us in a very difficult situation moving forward, in my opinion.

But

it's interesting the game that Chuck Schumer was playing with

Mitch McConnell, because the House hasn't even voted yet.

They're going to vote tomorrow, which probably will end up being Thursday or at least Wednesday night.

And

they haven't voted.

So why was Chuck Schumer pushing for certain people to be called?

And now Mitch McConnell folds to that and says, we're not going to call anybody.

Well, does that give the House an excuse not to pass the Articles of Impeachment?

Does it give an out to some Democrats who will say, you know, they're not going to do anything with it anyway?

Mitch McConnell just said they won't.

So what's the point?

That's probably what their argument will be.

Right?

I mean, they're going to probably say, hey,

this is just the Senate defending the president.

Here's Mitch McConnell's quote.

He said he was working with the president.

And this is just a scam.

It does bail them out, I think, in some ways in that they don't have to actually go through this process.

But

they should.

Okay, so

let me bring you to this.

There is.

And this could all change, we should point out, too.

This is what they're reporting right now, but you know, who knows at this point?

Let me just see.

And I don't know if I can read all of this because it's quite long, but it's an apology letter to Richard Jewell.

And it's from a member or former member of CNN.

And he writes, Dear Richard, I owe you an apology.

Writing an apology is not something journalists are used to doing.

It took me years just to open a document and type those few words.

But with the release of Richard Jewell, Clint Eastwood's new movie about the aftermath of the'96 bombing in Atlanta's Centennial Olympic Park, those of us who reported the story are doing a fresh round of soul searching.

No one emerged from the coverage with glory, although Jewel certainly deserved to.

I'm one of the reasons he didn't.

Jewel might not have been the first victim, might have been the first victim of the 24-hour cable news cycle.

He went from hero to villain in less than three days.

Jewel was working security in Centennial Olympic Park when he discovered a backpack containing a bomb and alerted law enforcement.

The bomb exploded, and soon, so did his life, after the FBI decided that he was the suspect, and the media piled on.

If Jewel was the first, it would only get worse.

Cable news accelerated the pace, but social media made the rush to judgment instantaneous, as quick as machine trading on Wall Street, but without any circuit breakers.

Think of that.

And they're right.

He might have been the first, but it has gotten much, much worse.

Think of what the media has done

in this whistleblower case, in this whole thing about

Trump and Russia.

It's turning out it's all lies.

All lies.

Our assignment desk said there had been an explosion during a concert at Centennial Park across the street from our offices at CNN.

By the time I made it downstairs, it was clear from sources and witnesses that there had been a bomb.

The blast killed one

woman, injured 111.

A cameraman died of a heart attack as he rushed over to cover the explosion.

These days, we would call it an IED, and in more innocent days, the murder weapon was called a pipe bomb.

During a news conference in those very early hours, someone from the Georgia State Patrol mentioned the security guard named Richard Jewell had spotted the backpack and alerted law enforcement.

He seemed to be the hero of the story.

I turned to my guest booker and asked her, track him down.

By that evening, we had had our man.

Less than 24 hours after the bombing, Jewel and his mother arrived at CNN.

He was flustered.

Traffic in the area had been heavy, and they had to rush the last several blocks.

Newt Kingrich, then House Speaker, and Sam Nunn were also in the newsroom.

Both wanted to shake his hand and thank him for being a hero.

Even before he sat down on the set, Jewel was distracted by the attention.

The interview I had pushed for offset

and set off the

chain of events that led to what Jewel would later describe as 88 Days of Hell.

A former employer of Jewels, the president of College North Georgia, was watching and called the FBI.

He wanted the Bureau to know that Jewel had worked for him and that he had been forced to resign.

Agents in the FBI Behavioral Science Unit and Quantico were also paying attention.

They wondered why Jewel looked uncomfortable and his eyes shifted around.

He seemed suspicious.

There may not have been something that Maxine Waters might say, I know.

In my heart, I will always know he did it.

There may not have been considered that this was Jewel's first TV interview and that it was being done remotely.

He was hearing questions from an anchor in Washington through an earpiece.

They were too busy thinking about Jimmy Wade Pearson, the guy during the Los Angeles Olympics in 84.

Pearson was a police officer who claimed to have found a bomb on a bus

carrying luggage for Turkish athletes.

Pearson later admitted planting the device so he could be the hero of his own story.

Jewell had been a sheriff's deputy before working security at the college, and he had moved to Atlanta hoping to boost his career.

His stint in law enforcement had not been without controversy.

If you were an FBI profiler, you could make all of this look sinister.

And they did.

A colleague and I interviewed him again on the next night for a special report.

And after we turned off the cameras, Jewell casually mentioned that he wouldn't be surprised, based on his training, if he was considered a suspect.

He said that's just the way it worked.

He implied, until you found the culprit, everyone in proximity, especially the guy who discovered the bomb, was in the frame.

The world's media already gathered in Atlanta, 20,000 of us by some counts.

The FBI was under intense pressure to solve this case and solve it quickly.

Agents were chasing down dozens of leads, trying to figure out who had been near the bench and who made the 911 call.

The bomb in Centennial Park.

You have 30 minutes, said the caller.

The FBI called Jewell to the Atlanta field office on Tuesday afternoon, pretending they were making a training tape.

He was the hero, so they wanted his help.

No need to bring a lawyer.

They were going to lead him in, lead him on, and spring their trap.

As they were trying to trick him into a confession, Free called Atlanta and told the agents in the room to read Jewell his rights.

The agents made the situation worse by pretending that giving him his Miranda rights was part of the training tape.

Law enforcement sources were already telling journalists that Jewel was under investigation, even before he made it to the FBI for his interview.

Several of us were meeting in the offices of CNN's president to discuss how we would report the news.

Should we call him a suspect or the more cautious person of interest?

That's when Johnson got a call from the editor of the Atlanta Journal saying the paper was about to put out a special edition naming Jewel as the bombing suspect.

That's when things went off the rail.

Instead of going with a more neutral

language we favored, Johnson had the anchors on set, hold up the front page of the journal and read the headlines.

By the time Jewel's lawyer heard the news, he had managed to get through to the FBI switchboard to his client and he told him, get out of the field office.

The collective weight of law enforcement and the media had already begun turning Jewel from hero to a villain.

Think of that.

Think of that.

This was 1996, the dawn of the internet age, so the process took some time.

He goes on, later we did a story that same week showing that under the FBI's timeline of the body, of the bombing, Jewell couldn't have made the warning call to 9-11.

By then, though, it didn't matter.

The media was camped out in front of Jewel's apartment.

Every time he went somewhere, he was followed by an absurd caravan of FBI agents and cameras.

It was relentless, and it was wrong.

Richard Jewell was not the Olympic Park bomber.

Despite the innuendo and FBI leaks that he was their man, Jewell was never charged.

Now think of this.

Despite of the innuendo that is happening in the media and the FBI leaks that he was their man, does any of this sound familiar?

Even though he was never charged,

He was still the suspect.

Eventually, there were more bombings using similar devices outside a gay nightclub and an abortion clinic in Atlanta and Birmingham.

Police officer was killed, a nurse was maimed, the real culprit was finally identified more than a year later.

He was a Christian terrorist who hated the New World Order, abortion, and the Olympics.

But as soon as Eric Robert Rudolph was named, he disappeared into the mountains.

The happiest I ever saw, Richard Jewell, was April 13th, 2005, the day Rudolph pleaded guilty in federal court in Atlanta to the Olympics bombing.

Jewell was smiling before the hearing, looking fit in the company of his wife.

He had never gotten the proper recognition for his heroism after those first few days, but his lawyers negotiated settlements from NBC, CNN, the New York Post, Piedmont College, and whose president had called the FBI.

But he got nothing from the journal Constitution, which argued that its reporting, like ours, had been correct at the time, and that Jewell was a public figure thanks to interviews he had done for us at CNN, and therefore he faced a tougher standard for suing for defamation.

I didn't say sorry when I left Jewel that April day.

We simply exchanged greetings.

I saw him a year later at a training exercise for

local law officers.

He was back on the job as a sheriff's deputy and friendly, even though he went cold when he saw an FBI agent in attendance.

A couple of days later, I sat at the computer.

I started my letter of apology.

I got frustrated and hit save.

A year after that, Jewel died.

After months of failing health, my letter remained unfinished and unsent.

So how do I make sense of all this

these years later when I have an Emmy on my shelf for my coverage in those first 24 hours?

We in the media got it wrong.

Even though our reporting was right, there's a paradox.

Jewel wasn't the FBI's main suspect.

Yes, the FBI has a lot to answer for, but this is about our responsibility.

Suppose that CNN had been more nuanced and called Jewel a person of interest.

Our repetitive and relentless coverage would still have made it look like the authorities thought he was the culprit.

In my own reporting, I've learned to be more skeptical of sources, especially when they claim to speak for the government, especially at its highest levels.

My stories these days don't go on air without relentless fact-checking, and my scripts have more footnotes than any term paper I did in college.

But the lesson is that isn't always enough.

It's how you report it, and how everyone else is reporting it, too.

Someone else's guilty plea and several court settlements didn't give Jewell his good name back.

Maybe the film finally will.

And next time, I will own up to my responsibility.

I will finish that letter letter, because it's never too late to apologize.

An open letter from a CNN staffer to Richard Jewell.

I wonder if anyone at CNN is reading this, including the author, and seeing the similarities of what they've done with FBI sources telling them incorrect information and going after their guy because they know

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He is with Young Voices and the host of Beltway Banthas podcast, which is a fun podcast.

And this week, the new Star Wars.

Do we have a bit of the clip for the new Star Wars?

This is

the new Star Wars.

It comes out Thursday.

Stu has his tickets.

Pat has his tickets.

I don't have my tickets.

But it opens up, and

this is the last,

The Rise of Skywalker.

Listen.

It's an instinct.

Feeling.

The force brought us together.

We're not alone.

Good people will fight if we lead them.

People keep telling me they know me,

no one does.

Long have I waited,

and now

you're coming together

Taking one last look, sir

at my friends.

Oh, how sweet.

I'm just getting so and so.

I'm getting really dark on all the cute little things that George Lucas started.

I just, I want them all to die.

I'm for baby Yoda, but all the rest of the stuff that George Lucas did, I just want to die.

Let's go to Stephen, who's with us now.

Stephen Kent.

Hey, Stephen.

Glenn, good morning.

Do you have any

insight on what's going to happen?

They're bringing Ray and Kylo together to create balance.

Is this...

Is this going to be a preachy movie?

What's happening?

Well, Star Wars is always at its best when it's a little bit preachy.

I mean, it's never not had a message since it began.

But again, like, what to expect?

The movies supposedly ended in 1983, and then they ended again in 2015.

And now here we are.

They're ending supposedly again in 2019.

We've been talking about this, you and I, since 2016.

I got to say, my anxiety is pretty high, and my expectations are just kind of all over the place.

So do you think, who's directing this?

This is JJ Abrams again, who took over the Force Awakens when it was rebooted.

He did a good job.

He did.

He made people feel comfortable with this being a reboot of Star Wars or a continuation of that story.

I think it's a nice, safe pick that they did, and it's going to round it all down nicely.

All right, so this is not one of them that went through like three directors, right?

J.J.

Abrams has been on this the whole time.

It was originally slated to be given to Colin Trevaro, who directed the Jurassic Park sequels, and it was taken away from him for reasons that are kind of unclear, but they've just written that off to creative differences, which means that he couldn't play ball with all the high-budget expectations that came with that studio.

And

this is Disney-owned, right?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

This is Disney.

They're going to take us across the finish line here and try to make this all make sense, not just these three movies, but all nine of them.

And you were asking about what to expect from this movie.

I think the only thing that that we have to go off of is the voice of Emperor Palpatine that shows up in these trailers.

If you think about Star Wars and continuity, the only thing that stretches from episodes one all the way to nine is senator, then Chancellor, then Emperor Palpatine and the actor Ian McDiarmid.

So he's coming back for this final movie, and the big question is going to be, how the heck did that happen?

Because he was blown to pieces in Return of the Jedi.

Oh, I hope they do another thing where he floats through space.

Oh, yeah, because that really really worked well, I thought.

Steven, is that the worst thing you've ever seen?

They had the actress dies.

They have a way for her to die, and they bring her back?

Yeah, but would you have wanted Leia to die by being sucked into a vortex in space?

Yes,

yes, yes, I would have.

In fact, there's a vortex, and I have several characters with the vortex with their name on it.

Yeah, yeah, that was that was an odd choice, and I personally kind of fell out of my seat at that.

And I just always look away when that scene comes around in The Last Jedi because it's a little too much cheese.

Okay, so

they're mixing the two, the dark force and the light.

They're finding balance.

Is that what we think this is going to be where they're like, you know, not everything is bad?

Well, when I first came onto the blaze and talked to Pat and Stu in 2016 about the Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, that's where I was at, that they were going to find a balance between the light side and the dark side and and kind of do away with this holy war between the Jedi and the Sith.

And then that came around to the Last Jedi.

Ryan Johnson basically snubbed that idea entirely and kept the status quo going.

I think all indicators are still pointing towards a complete disruption of the Jedi-Sith conflict and the light and dark paradigm.

And I think that's going to be pretty healthy for Star Wars going forward if we can sort of balance out the moral imperative of having a clear light and dark and good and evil.

That's the mix that they have to get right here.

So, who is the Skywalker that's rising?

My opinion of this is that the Skywalker is the Force user.

So, that the Skywalker is going to be sort of melded into a title for people who choose to walk in the ways of the Force, study the old ways, study the history, Luke Skywalker, Anakin, all those great heroes.

I think they're going to do away with these sort of religious titles that come with the Jedi and the Sith.

And they're going to be just a new class of warrior, like samurais, skywalkers.

that's my personal theory the easier answer might just be that it's kylo wren because he's the only skywalker currently living he's currently fallen and he could still stand back up and rise back to his family's legacy um

tell me that you were

not

blown out of your shoes shocked when you heard that disney did not make any baby yodas available for christmas

that was pretty stunning it was really really stunning.

But, you know, it kind of cuts against a couple different narratives about Disney.

Are they either after the money and chasing every single dollar they can get, or are they meticulous and protective of the brand?

It kind of threw a little bit of a wrench in everybody's opinions about Disney with that.

I think that they have a new mouse with baby Yoda.

That thing is so cute.

It's making me watch these, the Mandalorian, and actually continuing to give it a chance, even though the last few episodes I've been like, okay, come on, let's pick it up here.

What's the story?

Yeah, we're all united and stand with Baby Yoda.

It's been something our own household has enjoyed, and it's pretty remarkable to see that actually happen pretty organically, where this sort of cute creature is put into Star Wars to make everybody, you know, kind of be able to enjoy a kid-friendly series that is otherwise pretty violent.

And it's being received incredibly well.

I mean, I don't think it is, it shows that George Lucas, the George Lucas impact or influence is gone because this is the character that he always tried to find and they have now found it.

Yeah, I suppose that is true.

I know the first bungle of cute creatures was with the Eloks and Return of the Jedi.

And they were horrible.

And when you think, yeah, when you think about the first early divisions in fandom, fandom was always quite united around Star Wars 4 and 5, that being the Empire Strikes Back.

The first big rift was Return of the Jedi and sort of the cute nature of the Ewoks and some of the narrative choices of that film.

And we've been reliving that horror show of incredibly divisive Star Wars movies ever since.

I have a couple theories about that myself.

Do you think maybe this is where the divide in America started?

The divide in America started.

Charge our banks.

Yeah, and on Endor.

Are you going to the conference

this weekend for Turning Point?

I am not, no.

Oh, okay.

Well, I was hoping to see you there, but I guess not.

Well, I'm sure you'll do a bang-up job.

I'm sure I will.

I'm sure I will.

Have you done this thing that everyone is doing with ranking them in all 10 movies in order of preference?

Yeah, you know, I feel like I've done it every two years, and at this point, I'm like tired of throwing it up there.

But Return of the Jedi has always been my number one since we actually just discussed that, and then Revenge of the Sith, Sith episode three, as my number two.

Those are both incorrect, just to let you know.

I've never heard a correct answer when it comes to Star Wars.

And, you know, that's just kind of the fun generational nature of this saga.

Every group and cohort of generations have their own preferences when it comes to these movies because it is their Star Wars.

And that's kind of why we're all tearing each other's heads off perpetually with these movies.

It's a little bit beautiful.

It's also a little little bit maddening.

So how do millennials stand on the first three?

Yeah, yeah, episode one, two, and three.

Yeah.

Do they feel the same way?

Yeah,

elder millennials kind of fall in with Gen X with a lot of skepticism about the prequels and heavy critique.

What I've seen in the past couple of years has been an incredible, not revisionist history, but sort of a fighting back by millennials about enjoying the first three Star Wars movies because they were kids when they watched it.

They didn't really have those blinders on about what is cheesy and what is bad acting.

They just watched it and it was Star Wars and it was cool.

So I've actually seen a huge swing back in favor of the prequels and a lot of people readdressing those movies with a little bit more favorable light.

And that's what's so funny because apparently

George Lucas destroyed everyone's childhoods with those movies.

Oh, okay.

And now we're

talking about George Lucas.

Greta Thurnberg is talking about George Lucas when she said, you stole my childhood.

Everything's on me.

She's talking specifically about Phantom Menace.

That's what she's talking about.

Dare you.

Stephen Kent, thanks so much.

We'll talk to you again.

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So, Stu, did you see the support for impeachment now dropping by double digits and dropping really

for women?

Yeah, I mean, polling I'd say is mixed on this.

There's a couple good polls for Trump that are out over the past couple of days.

One in general election matchups, just kind of a weird poll from USA Today, which includes a third-party candidate getting double digits.

But Trump is beating in those matchups every single Democrat.

So it's one thing that obviously the right is kind of excited about.

The poll is strange, though, with a third-party candidate who's unnamed getting 15%.

I mean, that's obviously not going to happen.

I think we can all be clear that 15% of people are not voting for a third-party candidate.

That's not going to occur in this election.

But don't you think that that is

people thinking maybe that somebody in the Democratic Party is

going to pop in like a Michelle Obama or Hillary Hillary Clinton or somebody.

There's this strange belief, I think, with people that something's going to happen and they got to get somebody good and they're going to pop in at the convention.

Which is hilarious because that just shows how bad their field is.

They're all just like, this can't be it.

It's like a bad turn

in like a Star Wars.

He's like, hey, Jar Jar Binks was actually the lead Jedi.

And you're like, that can't be it, though.

We're not going to end the movie with Charshar as the...

That's the way people feel.

That's how they they feel about this field.

So they keep thinking that either Hillary or Michelle Obama or somebody else is going to come in as a sort of white knight to save everybody.

I don't think that's happening.

But I really don't think a third-party candidate at this point, I mean, the only one who would be even plausible would be someone like Bloomberg, who would say

he's going to go into the third party because they select Bernie Sanders or something.

But I do not think that that's going to happen.

That will just split the Democratic vote because people will vote.

All the youth will vote for Bernie Sanders.

You know what I mean?

And so I don't think that's it's unlikely.

You then have the impeachment polls, which

there's a Fox News poll that came out that

still has the president slightly underwater when it comes to impeachment.

This poll that you mentioned had a pretty big swing towards the opposite, showing that people are now opposing impeachment and removal.

I do think that's where it's going.

You know, like for impeachment to happen and removal especially to happen, you need a president with a 20%

approval rating.

You need like a Nixon who has lost all of his allies, has been proven to be, and this is just a partisan situation here.

Like, we're in a situation where you're going to get, they need 216, I believe, votes because of a few vacancies to get this over the hump in the House.

And they will get that, likely.

I mean, they have 194 on board right now confirmed on the Democratic side.

They have 11 that are undecided.

Yeah, I went through them.

Some of them are not undecided.

I mean, Esteni Hoyer is not an undecided voter on impeachment.

He's going to vote for it.

I found three

House members who are in decently, you know, double-digit Trump districts, or Trump won by double digits, and they're undecided.

I think those are three obvious targets.

Then you have, I have another one, two, three, four, five of the 11 that are maybes, you know, including someone like Tulsi Gabbard, who is in a very big Clinton district.

However, she just seems to be against the grain enough that maybe she would vote that way.

You can find a couple of others, but to pick off what they would need to pick off, you know, 16 Democrats or so doesn't seem likely.

I'm having trouble getting anywhere close to 16 when it comes to people who are in that area where they say, okay,

I'm in a purple district and I don't want to piss off my voters.

There's not a ton of them.

There's not enough to get to these numbers.

And obviously they wouldn't have called for this vote if they didn't think they had enough.

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We have Lauren Chen, the host of Pseudo-Intellectual, the podcast.

And you're, Lauren, you're a Canadian.

Welcome to Texas.

It's the real America.

It's colder than I thought it would be here, though.

Frankly, I'm a little bit disappointed.

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Well, Dallas is different.

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you know, this is, I guess, the high elevations of

Texas.

So it's a little bit colder, and tomorrow it could be 90.

I'm leaving tomorrow.

That would make sense.

So it probably will be 90.

So, first of all, tell me about the podcast, how the health is,

you know, of the numbers, et cetera, et cetera, because of YouTube.

I know a lot of your stuff is on YouTube.

You're a member of the Blaze TV, so you're part of our podcast family.

But

how are you affected by the purge and everything that's going on with Google and YouTube?

So for the purge, there was this, I think last week, just this new set of rules and policies regarding harassment that was released.

So far, as far as I know, they don't always tell you about these things, but we haven't had any videos taken down, which the same can't be said for other creators, but we've been okay for that so far.

But for us, the biggest thing with YouTube and Google has just been this ongoing challenge of trying to get our videos out there.

Previously, with YouTube, if you kind of tagged your videos properly, if people were interested if engagement was good YouTube's YouTube system would recommend you to potential viewers they watch they subscribe your podcast grows like that or if you kind of can jump on the a bandwagon topic that everyone's talking about trending news you can kind of grow your audience like that not anymore that is not how that happens anymore especially if you're in news commentary especially if you're in conservative news commentary so what we've been finding is that really the only way we're still able to be growing which we are thank goodness is through our audience sharing our videos.

People don't understand how important that is to share

and not just like but share.

Because if you don't share, the algorithms are not

doing anything for me or for Lauren or anybody really that is conservative.

It's they're not sharing.

I look at like Instagram, I'm found always by

zero numbers outside of my subscribers.

Yeah.

And it doesn't even make it all to the subscribers.

Exactly.

No, and YouTube, I don't know if this is politically motivated or just their system is not good, but subscribers will actually get unsubscribed from your videos.

My own mother has been unsubscribed from my channel several times.

So it's very frustrating.

And she's telling you that she didn't do it?

Yeah, of course.

I'm hoping she did it.

But it's very, very frustrating.

That's why some of our videos will actually tell people, please share our videos.

Go to Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, wherever you can, just, you know, or email it to people even.

We have, we can see where our traffic is coming from.

For some videos, more people find us from being emailed the video from their friends than YouTube's actual situation.

Likewise.

Likewise.

Ridiculous.

Which is really bad.

But there are some conservatives that

want to force

YouTube or Google or whatever, control them,

give the government some oversight to it.

We're now having conservatives talk about porn and that porn should be regulated by the government, which is

incomprehensible to me as a conservative.

Well, this is this is the debate that's been blowing up on social media.

I remember, I think it was last week, I just log on to Twitter, check my feed, and everyone's talking about porn.

I'm like, okay, what's I've clearly missed something.

So, how this conversation started off was Matt Walsh, who's with the Daily Wire, wrote an article talking about how there's, I guess, renewed interest trying to do something about children having access to pornography because I think there have been studies out.

The average age that a child first sees hardcore porn is, I think, 11 or something, like 11 years old.

And it's really shocking.

We're not just talking about maybe the 70s era center fold where it was just nudity.

This is porn, real porn.

Porn, real porn.

My son found, saw his first porn, I think, when he was eight.

Wow.

And it really screwed him up.

I'm just like searching on the internet randomly.

Yeah, he was on, somebody had handed him his phone or something, and randomly this porn thing came up.

And he went to the babysitter because he didn't know what to do with mom and dad.

And he went to the babysitter, and he was so upset and crying, and just like,

I don't know what this was.

No, and that's not an exception.

This is very, very common.

You don't even need to be looking at it.

With things like pop-ups, you could just be on what you think is a regular site, and then you get a nap or something that's not so regular.

So, with that in mind, I think everyone agrees children should not, that's not acceptable.

They shouldn't be exposed to that.

So, people like Matt Walsh, who is somewhat more, you know, of the,

I guess,

let's get it done.

Yeah, I didn't want to say that, but yeah, your words, not mine.

Um, so he's for just like, let's get rid of this.

This is not doing any good for anybody.

And his position was he wanted to ban it completely, right?

Yeah, well, he

says he wants to ban it completely, but if you read his article, he kind of first started with

if there's a way that children can't do it, that's good, but he doesn't think it's possible.

He doesn't think it's possible.

There are other writers who have said, well, hang on, let's, and I'm kind of in the, I don't want to ban it, not because I think it's good, you should be looking at it, but it's like, okay, if you're an adult and you're,

that's your decision to make.

But when it comes to children, I do think we need to start having a conversation about what to do with this.

In the UK, they've, before, I I guess they're a bit ahead of us, they were having conversations about do we need government involvement in this.

They ended up having, coming to a system where internet service providers actually have like a filter that's on the default where you can still opt out of.

I'm not sure exactly how that works, but it's sort of

it's an extra safeguard that's by the internet service providers, not parliament, to protect or just to make sure people don't accidentally see things that they don't want to be.

And that's a smart guy.

This is one of of the things I really like about this debate as far as

kind of in the conservative media is that there's actually really smart people on both sides that

there's like an interesting divide there.

Like so many with these issues, you're talking about, well, do you

for impeachment or against impeachment?

I'm like, you know, 99% of conservatives are against it.

And, you know, all the left.

Like, that debate is somewhat boring to me.

Like, this is an interesting one because there's people that I find to be very interesting on a lot of different topics that go the opposite way

from me on this.

I think Ben Shapiro

kind of broke it down in kind of: are you a rights-based conservative or a common good conservative?

And I thought that was an interesting way of thinking about it.

Because there's a lot of common good conservatives, and common good is no different than a progressive or a socialist.

But even that's always common good.

Well, I mean, there's definitely differences, I would say.

Well, no, no, but as far as you're just banning things or saying you know better than everyone else, And so you'll control things from a top-down government.

That's a progressive mindset.

Makes me nervous, for sure.

You don't know.

Well, I think there are a lot of conservatives like Matt Walsh and even Michael Knowles, again, with the Daily Wire, who are saying, we're not libertarians.

We are conservatives.

They don't have a problem with it.

But what I'm interested in this discussion for is the aspect of children.

Like I said, if you're an adult, you do you.

I would

want to have a conversation with you if you were my friend or family member about the healthiness of that, but you should have the right to.

But when it comes to children, I think, you know, we don't allow children to go buy tobacco products.

We don't allow children to go buy alcohol.

We don't allow children to buy firearms, right?

It is strange when it comes to children, there's like this almost, we're not okay with talking about it.

It's just we've taken for granted that this is what is going to happen.

Children will access this.

And it's like, well, hang on.

Can we at least maybe discuss this?

Is there something parents need to be doing more?

Should this be a tech-based conversation?

I just want us to be addressing this more because before we started looking into it, I had no idea.

And maybe this is because I'm, you know,

a little bit older than some of the kids who are coming into this.

Now, I was from the dial-up generation.

Internet was not a given.

It was kind of like.

Do you need to call someone today?

Cause I would like to send an email sort of thing.

It's very different now.

There are studies that have been done that show that the, I think it's the younger you are when you're first exposed to pornography, the more likely you are to slide into actual like

deviant upset things like bestiality and things like that.

So people have called this a public health crisis.

And for a lot of people who are maybe struggling with addiction, I don't think that's,

I don't think that's

exaggeration.

There is no doubt.

Studies have been done on the brain to show that A, when you're a kid, you are not able to handle this.

B, when you're an adult, pornography has the same

properties as heroin does.

It actually chemically affects your brain the same way heroin does.

It becomes addictive and destructive.

Now, not everybody, but

for a good number of people, it does.

That doesn't mean that heroin we do ban, but alcohol, look how destructive that is in people's lives.

But that's my choice to drink and destroy my life or not.

When it comes to kids, there are technological ways, if we were serious, that we could give people the opt-out to make sure that doesn't happen.

It's clearly something we can do.

When it comes to conservative, I'm a conservative, but I'm a constitutionalist, and I don't take kindly to the limiting of any kind of speech, especially that kind of speech, which I abhor.

Well, that's actually its own conversation because within the porn debate, there's also people asking, is porn even free speech?

Right?

Does that count as freedom of expression the same way something like an unpopular opinion might count as freedom of expression?

And a lot of people will say, of course, porn is free speech.

But when you think about it, you know, you can go on the street corner and say whatever type of political views you want, no matter how controversial.

You can't go on the street corner and play any kind of video you want.

Even with how our society functions, there is clearly we are putting porn in a different category.

And then some people say, well, what about sexual art?

How does that fit into free speech?

And it's like, this is a conversation where I don't have all the answers.

I don't even know myself.

Where do we draw that line?

Because there are obscenity laws that have been ruled constitutional.

And I don't know where that line is.

Right, but that is if it is out in public.

And that's why solve this by giving people a way to keep that away from unsuspecting people.

That's kind of.

You have to choose and go into it.

No tricks, you know, and you can opt out.

But you know.

There's no other form of speech where there's a public versus private definition, right?

Because I have leftists tell me that all the time.

Well, I didn't consent to hear your hate speech.

And I'm like, whatever, it's freedom of expression.

You don't need to consent to hear me.

But I do agree with you when it comes to something like pornography.

There should be two-way consent involved for viewing.

But again, this is an area where that we are treating porn different than other forms of speech.

So I'm not saying people shouldn't be able to do it, but I think we do need to realize we've already put it in this other category.

And that disturbs me.

I'm more hyper-vigilant on it because I don't want any biting around the edges of any kind of speech or

silencing of anything

in this society now because every step we take with an excuse, it gets easier and easier to say, well, this is damaging too, to hear Lauren Chen talk about these things, which were clearly not right.

That's harming children.

And I just, I'm sorry, but I believe in the slippery slope.

Lauren, thank you so much.

That's Lauren Chen.

You can find her pseudo-intellectual podcast, wherever you get your podcast.

You can follow her also on Twitter at the Lauren Chen

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Thank you, Lauren.

Thank you.

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they're going to be debating

in the House

the vote on impeachment.

And the House right now, the House committee, is holding its last hearing before the vote, and then it goes to Congress or it goes to the Senate.

Yeah, it's an interesting thing.

You have to get to 216

votes, basically.

For the Democrats.

For the Democrats.

So the Democrats, you basically have to pick off a bunch here.

And I went through all the people who are undecided or no response yet to an actual answer.

You've got three people who are in districts where Trump won by 10 points or more.

Three Democrats.

Those are very highly probable that you could pick those off and they would vote against the impeachment.

Then you have...

They would probably be allowed to by Pelosi.

Right, Pelosi would probably let them go.

Then you have another nine.

who are in districts where Trump won from between zero to ten points.

So you're really swing districts, but but Trump actually won them.

Another four that are in districts where Trump lost, but it was close, between 0 and 10.

So that gets you to 16

right there.

Then you have

another three that were in 10 to 20 point range, which were, you know, relatively close, but still Clinton won.

It's going to be difficult, I would say, to get there.

I can't imagine Nancy Pelosi would have called for this vote and gone down this road if she didn't think she had the votes.

I think what you'll see is high single digits of defections from the Democrats, you know, eight or nine in that general vicinity, because you'll, you know, some people are going to want to protect their districts and say that they voted against the impeachment to try to get reelected.

And Pelosi is all she cares about, let's be honest about, she doesn't care about any of this stuff.

All she cares about are the votes.

All she cares about is power.

And she plays these games

really only looking through the prism.

She wanted Trump out of there, obviously, on day one, but she didn't support impeachment for a very long time until she thought for some reason this was going to give her an advantage.

I think what the polls are showing now, though, is it's not an advantage.

It's not worked.

You have not convinced the American people.

And I think you're going to start seeing negative repercussions from this.

And I think that's the theory in getting this Senate thing over with.

Don't screw up a good thing.

I don't necessarily agree with that idea from the Republicans.

But because I would like to see these facts come out and have the American people look at them.

But I think that's their calculus here.

It's like, we've got a good thing.

We've won this already.

Don't screw it up.

I think so too.

I don't think that they're actually going to call anybody.

I think they're going to acquit the president just by a simple vote based on what McConnell said today

about how they're not going to call any witnesses.

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