There’s Still Not ONE 'Decent' Democratic Candidate | 11/27/19

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It's the day before Thanksgiving, which means, of course, we are already in vacation mode.

We've done no preparation for the show today.

In fact, I haven't read a news story all week.

That's not exactly true, but it feels like it's close.

There is actually a lot of news today as we get

one of those days where everyone's just traveling, and you might be listening in your car today.

One of the biggest, of course, travel days of the year.

They had a picture that someone posted from LA

where you should have just the lights on these cars on these freeways.

I mean, it was six months until you got to your destination.

These people are still, they're a mile away from the picture that I saw last night.

We have Donald Trump talking about designating Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations.

An interesting thought on Michael Bloomberg that maybe we can get into today.

We have a new poll out.

Elizabeth Warren is cratering.

Budijej is on the rise.

And, you know, kind of like the Republican thing in 2016, the guy with the big name recognition, Joe Biden, is still just hanging out there at the top.

And everyone keeps thinking who's going to beat him, and no one seems to beat him.

We'll get into that today as well.

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He is back on Monday, right?

That's the belief.

I mean, you never know.

Good, yes.

I mean,

unless he slips into a food coma and he just can't come out of it.

I think he'll be back on Monday.

That's very possible.

I always think there's

at least some level of possibility that he locks himself in a bunker.

Okay.

You know, like he just,

maybe he's going down there to check the food supply.

Dork's closed behind him.

We don't find him for a couple months.

That is always a possibility.

That's a possibility.

Sure.

Sure.

But

as far as we know, he's back on Monday.

Okay, good.

And he's got

a bunch of big stuff going on as he's kind of advancing his Ukraine thing.

And this is going to be, I guess, the storyline to the end of the year.

The Democrats want to get this impeachment thing over by the end of the year.

They want the vote by the end of the year.

Well, it's strange because they're going to the

Judiciary Committee now with Jerry Nadler.

Yep.

If you have an ironclad case, like we heard last week from Schiff,

Why are you pushing this now to the judiciary?

Vote.

Well, they have to do the Articles of Impeachment.

So yes.

So,

my understanding of the problem is that the judiciary writes those up.

Is that what it is?

It's the judiciary that's going to come up with those.

And they go through a series of hearings that are less about the evidence of the case and more about the process of how impeachment needs to work and what they're going to go after and how they're going to create the articles of impeachment.

You know what the problem is?

This just all takes too long.

If we were more like China, we'd just do this.

Just get them out.

Just throw them out.

That's what you do.

Really?

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

This whole constitutional thing slows things down.

It makes you ponder things, makes you think about it.

It doesn't allow you to just do things on impulse,

which is what we need.

I mean, we need impeachment to be like the Hershey's bar in the checkout line of the grocery store.

You're going through and you see some gum and you see Hershey's and like races.

You just pick them up.

They're in your mouth.

Think about it.

Is it a good choice?

Do I need this candy?

No.

You don't think about that.

Don't worry about that.

Yeah.

You're 30 seconds later, you're just eating candy.

Yeah.

And that's what you feel terrible about yourself after.

And that's the way this all ends.

We all just feel terrible about ourselves.

It's interesting to see this because I don't, there's an interesting case to be made for Democrats to say,

why are we going to cut this short?

Right?

Like, let's just keep calling witnesses.

Let's draw it out.

Let's draw it out.

Let's call all the people in

the West Wing, people like Mulvaney and formerly Bolton,

that

say that they would testify if courts demand they testify.

Let's put it through the court system.

Let's wait several months until it all shakes out.

Let's just keep it going.

Because

what it looks like to me now, and I think to a lot of people who are

maybe in the middle and looking at this, not really understanding the process and not really knowing where this is going, it looks like the Democrats are just rushing through this.

Which, by the way, they are.

I mean, it's true.

They are.

But it's not supposed to look that way.

When you're doing that, it's supposed to look like you're doing this fair thing, and we just want to get to the facts.

How can you even argue that when you've spent two weeks on it?

This whole call just came to light like four weeks ago.

And in four weeks, we're already at the point basically where there's a vote on impeachment.

It's insanity.

And I think they're doing that because if it goes to the Senate, then you could get the senators who were running for president embroiled in that

and keep them off the campaign trail.

And they don't want that.

But again, who are you talking about?

You're talking about Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders,

Kamala Harris, right?

Like, you know,

there's a good argument to be made that a lot of people in the Democratic Party and the leadership probably don't want any one of those three as the actual candidate.

I mean, they might want a Biden.

They might want a Buttigedge.

I mean, they definitely don't like Sanders.

They don't care about Sanders.

I mean,

I am a little concerned about Michael Bennett and what's going to happen to him if he can't campaign.

Because right now, he is rocketing to 0%.

And will he get beyond that?

I don't know.

So hard to get beyond that.

Tory Booker is another one, by the way.

Booker, I love that.

Mr.

Spartacus is struggling at still, according to Quinnipiac, 2%.

2%.

He's tied with Yang.

Now.

Yang Gang.

In the national Quinnipiak poll, this is amazing to me.

Biden is at number one again, 24%.

So he's up three percentage points.

Then it's Buddha Judge, up six to 16%.

He's number two now nationally.

Amazing.

That's crazy.

He's the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

And again, no offense to South Bend, Indiana, but the mayor of Miramar, Florida just dropped out of the race, Wayne Mesamentum Messum.

And it's bigger than

South Bend.

For whatever reason, the Democrats, I assume, because I've learned from Democrats, it must be skin color.

Wayne Messum is black, so I assume that's why they don't like him, but they like Buddha Judge.

But it is bizarre that this guy who is you know a mayor of a of a you know small to mid-sized city is the number two guy beating out everybody except joe biden somebody nobody had ever heard of until a few months ago he does strike you though just from the the sort of eye test as one of the more competent people you could tell he's smart you could he doesn't get flustered by a lot of stuff yeah he's well-spoken yeah and he's controlled and he has no record which is a nice benefit for the for the left they don't have a lot of stuff to pick him apart on.

They're like, well, he once fired a police chief that was unpopular in his community.

It's like, all right, that's your,

there's not a lot of negative on the guy, right?

And you could see this with the other candidates.

They struggle to find things to say that are bad about him because he hasn't done anything.

He's like 12 years old.

Yeah.

It's like, wow, he skipped a birthday party last year, and it was at a trampoline park.

They had to pay the fee.

And he promised the friend he'd be there.

Yeah, he promised the other thing.

And then no present afterwards.

And when he did finally give him a present after he was called out on it, it was the same

present he got from another kid at his birthday party, a blatant re-gift.

Like, that's about all, I don't know.

I don't know what he's, you know, he hasn't really done anything.

And yet there he is at number two.

It's crazy.

Number two.

And Warren has slipped to third.

She's going away.

She dropped 14%

over the last couple of weeks.

It does give you 14%.

Does that give you a little bit of hope?

It does.

Yeah, it does.

And especially since Sanders is behind her at 13.

So it does give me hope that maybe, you know, we're not quite there to the socialism yet.

And

the American people don't want socialism.

I hope that's still the case.

And it seems like it is because Biden's not a socialist, and I don't think Buddha Judge is either.

Then you go to the bottom tier, and you see the Bloomberg's already at 3%, tied with Harris and Klobuchar.

But he's spending a ton of money to get to that 3%.

You think he'll ever have his moment where he rockets into the teens?

We have to take a 60-second break here, but I want to come back on the other side.

I have been very dismissive of the Bloomberg thing.

I have too.

And I think with good reason, there's a lot of good reasons to be dismissive of Michael Bloomberg.

However,

I was listening yesterday to Jim Garrity, who's a very, very smart guy who sees this stuff.

He's with National Review.

And he made a case in the affirmative for Bloomberg that I thought was pretty compelling.

We'll get to that here in 60 seconds.

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You were saying that...

Were you swayed by this case on Michael Bloomberg?

Because we've both been pretty dismissive.

Yeah, kind of.

I think I was swayed to the point of it shouldn't be completely dismissed.

And here's why.

We've watched, I've made the case on this show that Tom Steyer is an interesting story so far in this campaign because Tom Steyer is, I mean, if you've ever seen Tom Steyer speak, it would be almost impossible to find a human being more boring than him.

Like, he is a giant zilch when it comes to personality.

And, you know, he's very aligned with the far left when it it comes to policy.

But, I mean, he's just got nothing going for him when it comes to charisma.

He's just nothing.

Right.

And so he's been able to, and he's qualified again for another debate.

All these guys like Corey Booker is not getting in this next debate, guys.

William Castro's dumb.

Like, these people, there's a lot of these people who are mainstream candidates are on TV all the time and can't get into these debates because they stink.

So what can you do with a bunch of money?

Well, Steyer can get on TV, spent about $70 million so far on ads, and has been able to do very little in this campaign.

He's been able to get himself to, you know, three or four or five percent.

There was a poll recently, one of the early states had had him as high as 9%,

which is pretty significant.

You know, I mean, he's become a competitor, and part of that is

the ads.

Part of it is the idea that you have someone who can compete with resources when it comes to you're going against Donald Trump,

the incumbency.

People like the idea in the dark part of their liberal souls that there's a billionaire who can spend and keep pace with this.

Because, you know, the Republicans are going to have a lot of money to spend this time.

This is not like the last time they didn't have a lot of money to spend because Trump wasn't running a normal campaign, right?

He didn't have the RNC behind him for a long time.

He didn't raise a lot of money.

He just went on TV all the time.

Well, this time he does have all that.

He has every trapping of the incumbency, and it's a really big benefit to your campaign.

So

here's the interesting thing, and I'm not saying it's going to work, but there's a chance it's going to work and make Michael Bloomberg competitive.

Tom Steyer is worth $1.6 billion.

It's a lot of money, and he spent a lot of money.

Michael Bloomberg is worth $50 billion.

He's the ninth richest person in the world.

And I'm not saying he can buy himself an election.

I don't think that's possible.

But...

His strategy here, where he's skipping the first four states, he's spending $30 million on Super Tuesday states.

So he's skipping these first four states.

He's spending $0 there.

He doesn't even care.

He's not going to be, he's going to get no votes.

If you get a split sort of ticket in the first three or four states where Biden wins one, maybe Butige wins one, maybe Sanders wins one, and you're coming out of there with a situation that provides

a little bit of chaos.

I think that's necessary.

But Bloomberg comes into these states, and the interesting part about it is no one, probably even including Steyer, is going to spend enough money or really any money in these states against Bloomberg.

So he's going to now have basically two and a half months to spend money unopposed in all of these states.

He's going to spend, he spent $31 million his first week.

It's the biggest buy of any presidential candidate ever, including the the general election.

Okay?

So he's going to come in here and spend, let's just say he does this every week until Super Tuesday.

You're telling me

he's not going to pick up a lot of votes from these lower-tier candidates, the Corey Bookers, the

Klobuchars, the Kamala Harrises.

If he can get to high single digits, low double digits going into that race.

And it's a chaotic field, he's going to be the only person that

all of these states have seen on TV and ads because everyone else is fighting for these early states.

So he's going to dominate all of these ads, and he's the only one with the money to do it in advance.

He's the only one who can sit there and just funnel money into these states, big media markets in many cases, where other candidates wouldn't be able to do that until they got the momentum of the campaign really going.

Now, Bloomberg is a terrible fit for the Democratic Party.

However, there are a lot of states where Democrats are looking for a Biden type, where they want someone who's just going to to seem sensible and return things back to normal.

And he's not going to be Donald Trump, but he's not going to be Elizabeth Warren, somebody else.

Right.

And so there is a chance, I mean, because if Steyer has done it with $60 million

over

two months,

what can Bloomberg do running unopposed in all these states and spending more like a quarter of a billion dollars over two months?

It's possible he makes a dent in this thing, and then it comes down to that Super Tuesday where he might be able to pick up a couple of states.

He's got delegates.

It's chaotic.

Who knows?

It's a logical case you're laying out, except it's Michael Bloomberg.

He sucks on the bottom.

A guy who has all the charisma of a bathroom bull brush.

Yeah, really?

That's going to be his.

What color brush?

I don't think.

White.

Yeah, white and old.

Like it's a bathroom bull brush you've had around for 77 years.

Like in a bathroom, you don't use, so it kind of just sits there and no one ever changes it.

It's gotten moldy and

cold and you don't like it.

You don't even touch it.

Yeah, Bloomberg's almost at that level.

Yes.

I'll give you that.

Yes, he is.

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It might be just as simple, though, as, you know, Joe Biden just pretty much

number one

lead candidate start to finish.

That is what it is so far.

It's so far.

I mean, he had moments where Warren passed him a little bit for a while in some polls, not even in every poll.

Nope.

Yeah, it was never more than half the polls that she passed him.

It was really kind of a statistical dead heat for about two weeks.

And now people have gotten to know her, and I don't think they like her.

They don't.

And I don't think they like her policies.

And they understand that, come on, we can't spend $52 trillion on your stuff.

We can't do it.

And I think they understand that that estimate is probably way low and it can't be done.

It just can't happen.

Just Medicare for all will cost us more than $50 trillion over 10 years.

This

is everyone's like, well, they estimated it at $32 trillion.

It's not going to be $32 trillion.

It never is.

We've explained why on several occasions.

You can go back and listen to those shows in depth if you want.

But I mean, the point here is that we all know these things blow up above their budget.

There's a lot of really obvious fundamental reasons why, including in this case, you know, like when you do

when you, when Medicaid or Medicare pays hospitals, pays doctors, they pay a lower rate than for private insurance.

And one of the things that Warren assumes in her plan is that she will just pay everybody at that rate.

We already pay a rate for Medicare.

We'll just continue to pay that rate and just spread it out over the entire health system.

Well, the reason why they're able to pay or accept Medicare and Medicaid payments that are lower, the reason doctors do that is because they charge private insurance more, right?

So they even it out.

They basically say, okay, well, this one's coming from the government.

We'll accept less and we'll accept more from over here and that'll give us a nice midpoint number.

Well, when you take everyone down to that lower payment number,

it's going to shake the health system apart.

And that's the type of thing that will not in reality actually happen.

They're not going to, they're going to have to raise the payments so these places can stay in business, so the hospitals don't start closing down.

They're not going to allow that to happen.

So they'll just print more money and spend more money.

And instead of 32 trillion, it'll be 52 trillion.

And instead of 59 trillion in total costs for all these plans, it'll be 79 trillion.

Yeah.

You know what?

There's a reason doctors make a lot of money.

And the reason is they were in school for 24 years.

And then they did a residency and they didn't make any money doing it.

And they come out with massive debt.

They have to work long hours.

And I know it sounds like a sob story to somebody who's making $50,000 when they're making $950,000 or $1 million a year.

But really, they deserve it.

They've done a lot of schooling.

They've got a skill that not many people have.

They were willing to sacrifice the first section of their lives to do this.

And it's hard.

And you're on call all the time and you got crappy hours.

I mean, it's not easy, especially if you're a surgeon and you're on call.

And I've got a really good friend who's, who's on call all the time, like five times a month.

They could call him at any time of the day or night and he's, he's picking through somebody's brain in 15 minutes.

You know, it's, it's, it's hard.

And so they're not going to want to take a massive pay cut because we have a universal healthcare system now.

They're not going to want to do that.

You're going to lose a lot of doctors, a lot of good doctors.

Especially if you're, you know, 58 and you're like, I'm a few years away from retirement.

I've already made a lot of money.

Yeah.

Screw this.

Right.

You know, you're gone.

Yep.

And now, look, a lot of it's, it's, it's, you can't just summarize it that way.

So many doctors do this because they love it and because they want to help people.

But in addition to that, they do want to keep their doors open and pay their people.

Yes.

It's not just about like becoming a millionaire.

And there's nothing wrong with wanting them to pay themselves either.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

No problem with it.

But even people who don't mind sacrificing their own stuff, well, it's not that simple.

Yeah.

You know, we've seen what a disaster the paperwork can be with these things.

I mean, when's the last time a government program came along that was incredibly efficient that you're just like, wow, you're mesmerized by the way they're able to handle this.

I mean, this is, you know, they launched these electronic records for doctors, and now they all have to do that.

They hate it.

They hate it.

It's a terrible system.

It eats up half their time with their patients.

Like, this is not something, these things don't work when the government tries to do them.

And they're going to try to give this one-size-fits-all thing for our entire healthcare system.

And we're all going to be freaking driving to somewhere else to get our health care.

If this goes through, if it really happens, we're going to long for the days

of the crappy healthcare system that we have now that's behind Cuba and Botswana

in the eyes of so many.

You're going to see how great the American healthcare system is if we ever go to universal healthcare.

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New pollout from CNN now, too.

In addition to the Quinn MPAC poll, there's a CNN pollout now.

And they're showing pretty much the same thing.

Joe Biden up now, but at double digits.

Wow.

In the primary, 28% for him, Bernie Sanders in second at 17.

Elizabeth Warren, oof, 14, and Pete Buttigieg at 11.

So kind of a three-way close contest, I guess you could say, for second between 11 and 17, three candidates.

But Joe still holding on,

28%.

That's actually down from October by six points, too.

He was at 34.

So Butige seems to have picked off some of those Biden voters.

But Sanders,

I mean, Sanders has between 14 and 18% of the vote in almost every poll.

He's in that same area.

He's got hardcore support.

They love him.

They're going nowhere else

unless they absolutely have to.

And Sanders has no legacy to worry about.

He's 147 years old.

He doesn't care.

He's going to stay in this race as long as he can.

And so he's going to create all sorts of issues for Democrats.

And it's going to be fun to watch.

Warren, though, is, I mean, she's created here.

I mean, she was at

29, I think, last month.

29.

She's 14 now?

14.

So she lost.

28 to 14.

It was 28.

Yeah, she lost 14 points in both of these polls.

Incredible.

14 points already.

And talk me out of this, Pat.

I want you to talk me out of this because I don't want to believe it.

I don't want to do this.

So talk me out of it.

Let me throw this at you.

Okay.

Please.

I sort of feel like...

You have to give Democratic voters a little credit here

because

they seem to have reacted to Warren's how I'm going to pay for Medicare for all things.

That's what I was just saying on Patray Unleashed.

Oh, really?

I think they did.

Yeah, I think they did react to that.

Because, I mean, you got to give them credit if they're actually reacting to a policy issue that's out there.

I know.

I don't want to do it, but it is Thanksgiving week.

Yes.

You know, it's the time you're supposed to be.

What else is it?

What else is it?

I mean, there's no other reason, right?

I mean,

I could absolutely see Elizabeth Warren cratering because she comes out and, you know, she did the whole public school thing.

She actually was sending her kids to private school and lying about it.

You know, the Native American thing, some really bad speech, like something that is kind of on the surface, you could see with Elizabeth Warren because she's just a really bad candidate.

But the fact that they're like, you know what, we don't think she's paying for her socialism well enough, if that's really the reason, I'm impressed.

Yeah.

Yes.

I got to say,

it's kind of interesting.

And it shows why she wouldn't say how she was paying for it for so long.

She avoided that for a long time, and it was working.

Then, when she finally says, okay, here it is, they're like, whoa, no, no, I don't think so.

Yeah.

There's no way you can make that work.

And a lot of people with plenty of reason have seen Sanders and Warren essentially competing for the same voter, right?

They had all the same policies, basically.

They're both obviously socialists, even though Warren doesn't actually say it.

But they're both absolutely socialists.

Yeah, the same policies.

Same policies.

I mean, they're doing the exact same thing.

So it's understandable why people would pair those two together and say they're fighting for the same votes.

However, what you see when you actually dig down into the polling is that the support for Sanders is coming from basically socialists, right?

People who really want left-wing policies, their ideologues, they're very, a lot of times very young activists,

people who are going after the real socialists.

And that might be 17 or 18% of the country right now.

Right.

Or at at least of the democratic voters yeah so you know that's what you're getting there and that's real but the warren people

didn't generally come from that group the warren people her rise was generally fueled by white um uh generally uh wealthy leaning highly educated democratic voters and

It was, that's, that's different than the socialist voter.

This is like the, I like Elizabeth Warren because I think she's a smart voter, right?

She's got a plan for everything.

She's smarter than everybody else.

Now, of course, this is insanity, but it is the way that they perceive her.

It's also the way they perceive Budige.

And because Budigej does is,

let's not make too big of a deal of this, but Budigej is slightly more moderate than Elizabeth Warren.

He's not, he is not a moderate.

He is not a mainstream Democrat as far as the voters go either.

I mean, this is a guy who's talking about packing the Supreme Court.

This is not some like he's he has a lot of radical proposals, but he's selling himself as, generally speaking, moderate, the opposite of what Warren is selling herself as.

But the same voters are going to both of them because they are the people who are very, you know, they see themselves as we need someone who's super duper smart and

has a plan for everything.

And they're going back and forth between Warren and Budig.

So even though the policies are different, the profile of the candidate is something that they like.

And so Budigej's rise is kind of coming at the expense of Warren, not at the expense of Sanders or Biden.

So it's an interesting, it is a weird race because you have a bunch of candidates.

None of them are good.

So it's a bunch of people sort of picking through, you know, kind of like a, you know, it's a a secondhand bin.

They're like, ah, we've got a DVD.

We need to have the kids watch something.

Look through that bin.

It's like, there's a lot of 299 movies.

Not a lot of people you've seen, you've heard of before acting in them, though.

And it's interesting, too, because they've had, over the course of this race, is it 26?

26 different candidates from which they could choose.

I think they're down to 17 or 18 now.

But at one point, I mean, if you lumped them all together with the Duval Patricks and

Michael Bloombergs who just got into it, it's about 26 candidates.

You can't find one good candidate that you absolutely love in that?

And I think the answer is no.

I don't think they really love.

Simple got out.

Yes, right.

And when Sit was in the city,

there was nobody to really love.

And then, and really, they don't love Biden either.

I think they believe he has the best chance to beat Donald Trump.

That's what they think.

Yes.

And

it's gotten a little, it's almost sad for Joe because, according to these reports, Obama is not going to support him, doesn't support him, and has no intention of ever supporting him.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Joe asked him not to endorse.

Yes, Joe did.

I mean, he explained that.

Can we get the, can we?

Yeah, it's hooked up.

Yeah.

A little audio.

Why didn't President Obama endorse?

I asked President Obama not to endorse.

No.

And he doesn't want to.

We should.

Robert wins his nomination should win it on their own merits.

He asked him, he asked him not to.

Please don't do that.

I've got to move it on my own merits.

And in addition to that, luckily, he also didn't want to influence it.

I like that because he throws that in.

It's like, well, I asked him not to, and he said he wasn't going to do it.

He stopped himself, though, before he got that far.

But that sounded like what he was going to say, right?

Let me hear that.

Why didn't President Obama endorse?

I asked President Obama not to endorse, and he doesn't want to.

And he doesn't want to

what?

He should whoever wins his nomination should win it on their own merits.

Okay.

All right.

Well, now, apparently, according to these reports,

Barack Obama has said Biden doesn't have it.

He doesn't think Biden's the right guy for the job.

Well, and Biden practically worships Barack Obama.

That's got to be such a kick to him right where he lives.

Yes.

I mean,

I was explaining earlier that,

you know, that's like a 12-year-old boy who loves, say, Mike Trout and looks up to him in every way as the best baseball player in the world.

And he hears that Mike Trout sometimes signs autographs before a game.

So he shows up three hours early and watches him go through the shagging of flies and stretching process.

And he goes to batting practice.

And he's been there for two hours and 45 minutes.

The game's about to start.

Mike Trout finally walks by the stands where he is and he yells to him, Mike, Mike, can I get an autograph?

Can I get it?

And Trout looks up to him and says,

beat it, kid.

You bother me.

It's that kind of crushing blow that Joe Biden is experiencing right now from Barack Obama.

I don't know what the deal is between, but it seems like it's always been there, too.

Yeah.

Where

I think another good comparison would be, what was the name of the dog?

You know, the big dog and the little dog.

Spike was the big dog, and the little dog was, I don't remember what his name was, but he followed him everywhere.

Butch.

Was the little dog Butch?

And he said, Mike, you want to play Mike?

You want to get him?

You want me to get you a bone, Mike?

And

every once in a while, Mike would just smack Butch across the room and tell him to leave him alone.

But he never lost his loyalty.

Right.

And I think, you know, that is Joe Biden with Barack Obama.

But I'm not sure what the deal is with Obama.

Maybe he thinks he's senile.

Maybe he really does believe that

he just can't win the race.

Was it you that was saying on the news and why yesterday that you've heard

that Buddhaj is maybe the pick for Barack Obama?

Well, Buttigiege is the only reason he's in this race at all is because Barack Obama called out Pete Buttigieg as a future Democratic leader, the future of the party, very early before anyone knew who he was.

Wow.

Yeah.

And

he became sort of an underground Democratic Party star.

No one thinking he was going to run for president in 2020.

I mean, that was not the thought.

The thought was, maybe 2024 or 2028, like maybe he's a senator or a governor coming soon, and eventually he becomes president.

Which would usually be the path.

Right.

Instead, he's like, ah, well, he said something nice about me.

I'll just go for it.

And so far, obviously, it was a good decision.

I mean,

he didn't need

the midpoint, midpoint, Budijej.

He may not win this race.

He probably won't win this race, but he is in a position where he can win the race, which is more than you'd expect out of the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

You would think you can't get there from here.

Yeah.

You can't get to the White House from South Bend, Indiana's town hall.

So that's one of the reasons.

That's been something that has been sticking around for a while.

And Buddha Jej fits the profile of Obama, right?

Like supposedly intellectual,

you know, a person who's not a lot of fire, right?

Like not a person

who's bombastic or known for catchphrases.

You know, he seems like a consultant to, I think, most people.

And

I've never seen him have any ability to inspire anyone.

You know, I mean, Barack Obama obviously was capable of doing that, even though, you know, I didn't understand it very much.

Some people did.

So the Buttigieg thing is interesting.

I think, you know,

he'd love that to be true.

He'd love it it to be someone like that instead.

He certainly doesn't want Sanders.

We've heard over and over again that if it's Sanders, he may come out and actually endorse.

But two things about this.

First of all, there's been little breadcrumbs about this Obama-Biden thing for a while in that reports came out that he actually, Biden was not the first choice of Obama for the vice presidential role, but he felt like it was,

I mean, in Obama's analysis at the time, well, look, America's not ready to vote for Barack Obama and some other

exotic person.

Like,

they need a good old white person to vote for.

Now, of course, that's an incredibly racist sentiment to me.

I mean, that's an idea, and I know.

He expressed a lot of them.

He actually.

Well,

I mean,

he saw people as typical white people that were afraid of black people walking down the street next to them.

Because that was bred into them.

Because it was bred into them.

So he assumed that about the general populace and said, I got to pick a white guy.

At least that's been the reporting.

But you wonder, though, if that reporting comes out,

if Barack Obama is supporting Joe Biden.

If Barack Obama is all about Biden, does that reporting come out?

I mean, we've seen reporters protect Barack Obama to the point of hiding photos of him with Louis Farrakhan, right?

Like, this is like, they've gone to incredible extents to protect this guy.

Secondarily, and this is, I think,

goes directly to what Joe Biden just said in that clip, which is: well, he wants it to be, he wants whoever's going to win the race to do it on their merits.

There is no person in America that has a better idea of the merits and the abilities of Joe Biden to be president of the United States than Barack Obama.

He knows it better than anyone in the world,

including his own family.

This is a guy who saw Joe Biden in these circumstances day after day for eight years and doesn't believe it.

All up close.

And he can't say on the merits, this guy's the guy.

That is a massive statement.

Obama is telling you he is terrified of this guy becoming president, not because he disagrees with him on policy, but there's something there.

There's something he saw behind the scenes that is not allowing him to come out and endorse this guy or at least speak out consistently and defend him.

I think so, too.

Biden's defending Obama.

Obama gets attacked by these other candidates, and Biden does it over and over again.

He's only showing Obama's policies.

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Oh, every time.

Every time, right?

Every time.

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These aren't people that fold when things get tough.

And you know what?

They're always willing to stand up against their own side.

They've got conviction.

They do.

Well, a lot of them have been convicted, I think, is what you mean.

That is what I meant.

But they also have conviction, including Representative Brenda Lawrence, who came out in an interview the other day and said, you know what?

I don't think it's time to impeach Donald Trump.

It sounds silly.

We're close to an election.

Right.

You know,

let's just wait.

Didn't really hear much in the trial.

And so.

So, I mean, let's just move on with our lives, right?

She bravely, however, after saying that publicly, the next day released a statement saying, look, I was an early supporter for impeachment in 2017.

Very thorough process of the last couple of weeks.

Information they revealed confirmed this president has abused his power of office.

Therefore, I continue to support impeachment.

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Right.

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And now, Representative Brenda Lawrence has done that.

Courageously, of course.

Courageously.

Courageously.

With conviction.

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We were talking about Obama not supporting Joe Biden, which to me seems really unusual for a president-vice president relationship because it's usually understood that the vice president of the United States, if he's interested, will probably be the nominee next time around.

That's usually how it goes.

Now, in 2016, he chose not to run.

Would he have had the endorsement in 2016?

From Obama?

Yeah, probably, right?

Maybe.

Because Hillary probably doesn't.

I mean, maybe he would have said the same thing.

Well, Hillary was my Secretary of State, and

I don't know.

Right.

But I think, you know, usually the VP walks into that role if you want to walk into the role.

Yes.

And, you know, look, would Dick Cheney have had the endorsement endorsement of George W.

Bush in 2008?

Absolutely, he would have.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Right.

We know, uh, we know Gore had the endorsement of Clinton, even though they didn't really like each other all that much

back in 2000.

Yeah.

That's kind of what happened.

So it's kind of unusual.

Now, you know, you might be thinking, well, okay,

Obama's waiting for Michelle to run.

Now, I know.

I hope not.

I hope that's not the case.

You hope that's not the case because she'd have a good chance of winning.

I mean, that's what Bill O'Reilly said.

It seems like it.

o'Reilly said he thought if she jumped into the race she'd she she'd she'd win easily is what he said to us she not just the democrat nomination but also beating Donald Trump beat him in the general election now I there's a lot of unknowns in that equation yeah how does she perform under that spotlight you know there's so much that can happen but I think it's it's not with her popularity her favorability it's not it's not crazy to assume that she was heavy favored she was actually kind of toxic on the campaign trail they took her off the campaign trail because a long time ago of hammering America 11 years ago.

Since she's done that, she's done a whole nother campaign, plus a bunch of book releases and all sorts of fawning coverage.

Yes.

You can't even say, like, you can't say that her arms aren't beautiful.

Right.

You're not allowed to say that.

Now, we have an actual supermodel living in the White House, and no one says anything about her.

But you can't say that Michelle

Obama's arms aren't beautiful.

Oh, well, they are.

I don't know.

Are they beautiful?

Absolute imbecile.

If you didn't say, functional.

I don't know if arms are beautiful.

They're just functional.

Oh, Stu, I can't believe you're saying these things.

They do what arms are supposed to do, I guess.

I don't know.

They're arms.

And her fashion sense is impeccable.

Is it?

No.

Not the supermodel that lives in the White House who really cares about her fashion sense.

Exactly.

Yeah.

It's really, it's

bizarre, is what it is.

It's really unfair, too.

It's unfair.

It's like one of these things where

you're like, oh, well, who, you know, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, that's a beauty.

Michelle Obama, that's a real beauty.

It's unfair.

Milani is a supermodel.

Like, it can't even, let's not even have this conversation.

It's over, right?

I mean, by far the most beautiful first lady there's ever been.

Yeah, it's like, who's the best high school basketball player?

Well, let's compare them with LeBron James.

Like, it's not fair.

Yeah.

It's just not fair.

You know, it really isn't.

It's like, you know, the whole thing with like the first lady, you know, the beautiful first lady is like, here's this person of somewhat normal background who isn't known for her beauty, and she gets into this role and you notice her beauty.

That's not what Milani is.

She is known for her beauty.

She just is going to dominate this conversation every single time.

It's just not fair.

It's not.

It's not fair.

It's not fair and it's not close.

No.

But yet, Milania gets no attention from

no covers of Magna.

Nobody even talks about her fashion since.

And did she get booed?

Yes.

She gets booed.

Terribly booed

at At an opioid

prevention, like preventing opioid addiction forum thing.

Right, which is her.

We have this video.

Can we play this a little bit?

Yeah, let's play this.

It is my pleasure to introduce to you the first lady of the United States of America.

Some of that.

That's like

mixed.

It's mixed, but what has she done to deserve the derision of that crowd?

What has she done?

Except for fight

to stop opioid addiction, which is one of her main things, right?

By the way, her husband donated his entire presidential salary to that cause.

$400,000 to it.

And look, Trump is no libertarian on drugs, right?

Like this guy.

He's pretty restrictive when it comes to this stuff.

Oh, he's been on this opioid bandwagon.

He's helping.

And wasn't it his brother who died from alcoholism?

I mean, he's famously never really

into that.

He's not into that.

That's not what he does.

Yeah.

But he's into the cause of preventing all of that,

as a result of what happened to his brother.

Exactly.

And I think it's

one of the things he really feels in his core.

Yeah, I think so, too.

Yeah.

So it's a weird thing for her to be booed, and she's been treated.

I mean, honestly, like people are talk about all the time about how unfair people are in the media to Donald Trump.

And all that's true.

There's no more pure example of media bias in the entire presidency to me than the way Melania Trump is treated.

She is

not only is she

has

everything you'd want to put her on the cover of every single magazine, right?

Every month.

Every month, right?

If a Democrat got in with Melania Trump as first lady, the only person you would know existed in the world would be Melania Trump.

Yes.

Except it wouldn't be the last name Trump.

Right.

Right?

She would get more coverage than Megan Markle.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, exactly.

She'll be treated like Megan Markle, like a princess.

Yes, right.

She gets no covers of any magazines.

And she gets treated, and she doesn't even step out politically.

Nope.

You know, she is seemingly does not really agree with everything her husband does.

There's been some slight criticism of him on occasion, at least as far as certain policies go.

But she's.

And really, the first lady can't criticize the president's policy.

I'm not suggesting she should, but what I'm saying is, like, she's not like uncertainty.

But there's no reason for the either side to jump on her for that.

It's not like she's coming out every day and being like, build that wall, build that wall.

Like, she's not that person.

She's very reserved.

She's behind the scenes.

It would be an easy way for the media to give positive coverage, throw a bone to the White House, positive coverage of Melania and say she's wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, but we don't like Donald Trump.

But they can't even bring themselves to put a supermodel on their magazines.

Like, that is just like they can't stand him so much.

They do the thing they always complain about.

They take what they view as the sins of the husband and put them on the wife.

And they don't give her any positive coverage, really, at all.

Right.

That is like pure bias.

There's no reason.

This is one of the most famous people in the country.

And she gets no positive media coverage.

Now, I also don't think she seeks it.

Unlike Michelle Obama, who wants to be on the cover of every magazine.

I don't think that's what Melania wants out of this.

I don't.

I think

she is very reserved and does not seem to want the spotlight in that way where Michelle Obama does.

But, you know, look, the Michelle Obama 73% approval rating goes away when she becomes a candidate.

We need to remember that.

Hillary Clinton had an 80% approval rating

when she was Secretary of State.

It goes away fast.

As soon as you open your mouth.

Yeah.

When you become a candidate and all of a sudden you're a partisan political figure, that's a totally different world.

Right.

So I don't know that she would cruise to the nomination or to the presidency, but she'd be she'd be a formidable candidate.

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Let's go to Roger in New York.

Roger, hi.

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Good morning, guys.

Happy Thanksgiving.

You too.

I think you guys are kind of missing the bigger picture about why Obama is not going to support Biden.

When Biden was doing all this

illegal stuff or improper stuff with Ukraine, it was all under the impression that Hillary was going to come in afterwards and be the next president.

When Trump came in and won, that threw everything up in the air.

If Biden is the candidate, Trump is going to latch onto this Ukraine thing like a pit bull with a ragdoll.

And it's going to come out and out.

And as Glenn has pointed out on all three of those amazing specials, this is much more than about Joe Biden.

And they do not want to risk exposure of that whole thing.

So they cannot allow Biden to be the candidate.

They just can't.

This is a really interesting point because I think, you know, from Biden's perspective, it's something he should be playing up.

He should be saying, look, Trump's coming after me.

And he started to do this a little bit over the past few weeks, saying, hey, look, look, I was targeted by the president.

He's afraid of me.

He's calling foreign leaders to try to ruin my campaign.

This is something that Biden, from a political perspective, should be playing up.

That doesn't apply to Obama.

Obama sees this as maybe something to be exposed from his legacy.

And there is something, there's something to that, I think.

The other part of this that is not as much discussed is the other side of this equation in Ukraine.

went through the same type of transition from someone who was a political power player and trading back and forth between the political parties to Zelensky, who is a complete outsider,

arguably more of an outsider in Ukraine than Trump was in America for winning the presidency.

Like Trump is hosting reality shows, he's a businessman.

This guy was just a comedian, right?

And a comedian wins the White House equivalent.

And so now both sides.

of the sort of establishment are unprotected.

Yeah.

There's no one there to run interference anymore.

And I think this is an interesting point.

I mean, maybe Obama doesn't want all this stuff to be exposed and doesn't want Biden to be the focus of this thing.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Although I think this goes back further than the Ukraine situation.

So I think this is an ongoing deal, but that could be a big part of it.

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Thank you.

Even though you guys just mentioned it, I don't know why people aren't taking Michelle Obama more seriously as a candidate in that her husband hasn't endorsed anyone yet i don't know if he's waiting for her or not but this whole field of of clowns as candidates and they are clowns uh who else is there who has a reasonable chance to beat donald trump she would bring the black vote together the female vote together i don't know why she doesn't get more consideration from everyone i listen to i think only because she's said multiple times she's not interested and she's not running I mean, a lot of people say that, but we are now past the point, right, where she would be missing, for example, she would not be on the New Hampshire ballot, right?

Like, I think at this point, you're the only person who can really do this in a way that's plausible at some level is Bloomberg because of how much money he has.

I mean, look, you know, you're talking about

pretty late to the party.

Yeah, you're missing, you're missing early state primaries.

Yeah.

Now, I think if you want to talk about a situation, and I think this is realistic,

where Joe Biden wins the nomination and Biden goes to the

convention, does the speeches, blah, blah, blah.

And then something huge breaks that shows how corrupt he is, or, God forbid, he has a health issue or whatever the thing is, and he has to step out of the race.

What do you do?

Well, if he's named a VP, you could go with that person, potentially.

But if it's before that time,

you kind of look at the white knight sort of idea.

Someone rides in on a horse to save the day.

You don't necessarily want to pick that out of the existing field because those are people that the voters already told you they didn't want, right?

The voters already said, well, we don't want Elizabeth Warren.

You can't just put her in there.

She came in third place, whatever the situation is.

So likely you're going to come out of the field in that situation.

You know, considering almost every candidate in this race is 194 years old, the possibility of someone dropping out unexpectedly is higher than normal.

And so you could see in that situation, we need someone who understands how to campaign, has done it before, who our voters like they're all gonna be excited about what about Michelle Obama will she just step in and take the nomination and we'll do it'll be an open convention all the delegates would vote for her she'd get the nomination I think without a question especially in that scenario in an emergency scenario and then you have someone riding in with a 70% approval rating that might be able to take this thing There is a there's a scenario there where I think she can win at this point I mean I talked to I gave you the positive view of Bloomberg earlier in the program where there's a plausible idea because of the amount of money he can spend that he can be competitive in those Super Tuesday states, and then who knows what happens.

It's still a real long shot.

I mean,

you don't want to try to win a campaign like that.

I think for the most part, they're stuck with who they've got, and they've got nobody they love.

No, they don't have anybody to love.

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BillO'Reilly.com had a pretty interesting interview

with

somebody called, was it Donald Tramp?

Trump?

Donald Trump?

Yeah, I guess

selected president of the United States after he had manipulated the the election choice

for president.

Sorry, we're doing our MSFEC impression here.

So Trump was on with O'Reilly on billorilly.com.

And

tell me if you if

people are reading into this too much, is he basically throwing Rudy under the bus here, Giuliani?

Because I mean, I do kind of feel like end of the day, there's a good chance this is where this ends.

We have lots of people on record saying

that this was an edict, right?

That there was a quid pro quo for varying circumstances and varying ways they learned about this.

And we can go over all that and we have.

But everybody basically seems to say they got word of this from Rudy Giuliani.

Yeah.

Not from Trump, but from Rudy Giuliani.

And here's Trump kind of putting a little, it seems to be a little bit of a dividing wall between himself and Giuliani.

This is Trump with Bill O'Reilly yesterday.

What was Rudy Giuliani doing in Ukraine on your behalf?

Well, you have to ask that to Rudy, but Rudy, I don't even know,

I know he was going to go to Ukraine, and I think he canceled the trip.

Rudy Giuliani, he's your personal lawyer.

Giuliani is your personal lawyer.

So you didn't direct him to go to Ukraine to do anything or put any heat on him?

I didn't direct him, but

he is a warrior.

Rudy's a warrior.

Rudy went.

He possibly saw somebody.

But you have to understand, Rudy has other people that he represents.

Oh, my.

I mean.

Oh, my.

He just said

he had nothing to do with Rudy Giuliani going to Ukraine.

So that's a pretty strong separation.

Now, remember, in the past, Giuliani has said he was there at the direction of Trump, which I don't remember Trump disagreeing with, but I don't remember him ever confirming it either.

So is this going to be kind of the defense?

Like, look, and as we've said a million times, I don't think this is impeachable.

It's not my view that this is an impeachable situation.

That being said,

the administration's job here, right, is to, politically, to protect the president at all costs.

Yeah.

Now, you could say, I mean, a lot of people would say, well, that's not the right thing to do.

But, I mean, that's what the political job to do is.

I mean, do you believe?

That he didn't direct Rudy Giuliani to go to Ukraine?

I find it hard to believe.

It's impossible.

I'm going under the assumption.

Of course he sent Rudy to Ukraine.

I'm going under the assumption here.

I view this entire thing as Donald Trump did want a quid pro quo with this money.

There's a report in the New York Times today that they're saying that Trump

when they released the funds to Ukraine, it was after they had learned about the whistleblower report.

Yes.

So

they've been saying that for a while.

Well, this was, I guess, an additional confirmation then because it broke today in the Times.

And look, I don't people keep saying, Well, I don't agree with that, and that didn't happen.

I don't care if it happened.

Like, to me, there is a question as to whether it was for the good of the country or it was just his own political benefit.

If it was his own political benefit, then he should be impeached.

I don't think that's what it was, though.

I think there was more to it than that.

I think it was for the country.

I think it was for both.

I don't know why they won't say that.

Yeah, I don't know.

Frankly, I think it was for both.

I think he liked the idea.

You can do Biden.

You can do a quid pro quo all day long if it's in the good of the country.

Right.

Anytime you want.

we don't have to give them any aid.

Right.

Let alone $400 million.

Exactly.

So we all, and that's why I'm operating.

I don't care about this back and forth because I don't see it as one of these things that is a problem if it's done for the good of the country.

We all know that it happens all the time.

Yes.

So when you look at this, though, I mean, Biden did it.

You may not have committed to it.

Exactly.

You may not have legalistic proof that Donald Trump is on paper or on a recording saying, Rudy, you got to do this.

We're going to to hold back the aid.

But I think if you look at the breadth of evidence, it's likely that this did occur, or at least the impression was strongly given because everyone, even people who opposed the quid pro quo, for some reason was still doing it.

Like, you know, Sandlin is like opposed to it, and he's still going to Ukraine and telling them, yeah, it's a quid pro quo.

Well, why would he do that?

There's no, if he doesn't, I mean, he believes that that's the directive, whether it is or not, right?

But I don't care if it's the directive, if it's for the good of the country.

And I think that's the line they need to go to.

Here, though, you can see a defense developing of, look, Rudy's just a renegade.

He's out there doing all sorts of crazy crap.

I have no idea what it is.

It's not the thing you want to hear if you're Rudy Giuliani.

I'll say that.

It's not your favorite moment of this entire escapade.

It's not the thing I wanted to hear as Pat Gray.

I don't get it.

I don't think that can, you know, that's not going to hold up.

That just can't hold up.

It's too easy to disprove.

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Americans.

It's just so stingy.

So pathetic.

Like this, you know, this billionaire, Jeff Bezos.

$100 million.

What's he ever done?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Seriously,

he shouldn't have the money he does.

Shouldn't have it.

Well, billionaires shouldn't exist.

They shouldn't exist.

They're evil.

You know what?

You get a lot of good outcomes when a government comes together and says a certain group of people shouldn't exist.

Always ends well.

In every case, right?

In every case.

Can you think of any case where that hasn't.

You're really testing me here.

I mean, I'm sure there may be one.

But I mean, usually when a government comes together and says, you know what, this group of people should not, we should wipe them off the planet.

usually ends well.

It does.

It does.

And I think it will with billionaires, too.

Oh, I think so.

When you start dragging them out of their offices and beating them to death in the street, won't that be great?

Oh, it will all be the same.

And you're all billionaires.

So Bezos gave $100 million to charity, and that's

selfish, I guess, because he has more money than that.

And by the way, he's donated more money than that to charity.

It just happens to be this particular donation to homelessness was $100 million.

The response from people is so incredible.

Like this guy, a whopping 0.09%

of his net worth.

Thanks so much, Jeff.

Unbelievable.

How much did you give?

Yeah.

How generous of him to donate less than what he makes in an hour.

Which I don't, I don't know that he makes a that would be a really good hour.

That's a good hour.

Billionaires are evil.

He could end homelessness if he wanted to.

No, he couldn't no he couldn't uh homelessness involves a lot of mental illness and you know you can't buy people out of their mental illness no what if you what if you spend a lot though you still can't really yeah yeah you could spend a hundred trillion there'd still be homeless people really

200 trillion i don't know where you get that from there's certainly never been any any

well let's say historic books that have discussed the fact that there will always be poor people something called the biblei i think it's related to michael

Yeah, there's a Bible out there that says there will always be the poor among us.

Yeah.

Also, we've kind of found that out our own self with President Johnson's Great Society and $23 trillion spent in the war on poverty.

And still, is there homelessness?

I think there's the other one.

Is there poverty?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly the same amount there was percentage-wise in 1965.

Just an embarrassing failure.

It is.

And we should point this out, and it's not not said enough.

When you come down and you're making the

Mount Rushmore of the worst presidents in U.S.

history, Lyndon Johnson needs to be carved into the mountain.

He's one of the four for sure.

He never gets the credibility he deserves as one of the presidents.

Let's go ahead and carve him in.

He's the first one we're carving right now.

You also got to carve a sculpture of FDR.

Woodrow Wilson.

Woodrow Wilson and Barack Obama.

There's your four, I think.

You think?

I think so.

FDR.

Would you put FDR?

I mean, FDR,

I guess, I mean, because you have the war stuff.

You have all the government programs that kept us in the Great Depression for 12 years rather than pulling out in a year or two like everybody else did.

I'm not arguing he's a good president, but I mean, I'm saying, is he on the four?

Because I think you got to have Lyndon Johnson on there.

He's a guy who's put all the devils in the future.

What would you put instead of FDR?

Because obviously, Woodrow Wilson.

Do you also argue with Barack Obama?

Got Got to have Woodrow Wilson on there.

Obama, yeah, I mean, it feels like you need a contemporary.

You know, I mean, he

put him.

I'm trying to think.

I mean, what about Andrew Jackson?

Andrew Jackson, maybe?

Probably

because of his lies talked about.

And

the treatment of the Native Americans, Trail of Tears, all of that.

Yeah, there's some.

A good case could be made for Andrew Jackson.

I mean, Taft couldn't even fit in a bathtub.

Do you put him on there?

I think we might have.

Because he was a fat tub of goo?

Yeah.

I mean, he was

overweight.

Right.

And so I think that could be

something.

I don't know.

If you put Taft up there, you'd need another mountain.

Like, you'd have to have

double the mountain space.

It'd be like putting Jeffy up there.

No.

You couldn't do that.

You can't do that.

We have a look back at the life of William Howard Taft.

All right, just roll it, I guess.

The Glenbeck program presents retrospective.

Retrospective.

On today's episode, William Howard Taft, born in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1857, grew up to become America's 27th president.

He died in 1930.

He was overweight.

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Limited faculty.

So that was the

one notable thing about him.

I guess he was overweight.

It's really the only thing anyone ever says about Taft.

It is.

I have no idea what his policies were.

I'm sure they were wonderful for the time.

Sure.

But I do know he was overweight.

Yeah.

We do know that.

I mean, if you're redoing the actual Mount Rushmore, I mean, I think we're both putting Coolidge up there, right?

For sure.

Coolidge is definitely going up.

Absolutely.

I mean, Reagan's going up.

Coolidge, Reagan.

For me, I got to have George Washington up there.

Got to have Washington.

And maybe Jefferson.

I love Thomas Jefferson.

But Coolidge,

Reagan.

Oh, Lincoln.

You got to have Lincoln there.

Yeah, you can.

That's hard.

We've had a lot of good presidents.

Yeah, we have.

The really terrible ones, we've had a decent amount of.

I mean, because if you want to talk about most ineffective presidents, right, like you could put Jimmy Carter on that list easily.

Oh, yeah.

But you don't think of him as like a real upending our entire system.

Because you didn't.

He was just really bad at his job.

Yeah.

Everything he did sucks.

But it wasn't like Wilson who, I mean, you know, the Wilson policies, we'd look back at now and be like, wow, those are really conservative.

But he changed the whole fabric of the country.

Yeah.

Right.

A lot of, that was one of those things where, you know, he took a country that was going down one path and jammed the whole country in reverse and went down another path.

Where like someone like Johnson just accelerated us down that path so fast.

And people, because, you know, look, it came after the Kennedy thing, there was a feeling of he kind of just overlooked everything at that point, I think.

And the fact that, you know, Johnson is responsible for,

you know, a massive amount of our problems in this country when it comes to debt

is overlooked.

And not to mention, the guy was an incredible racist and a jerk to almost everybody around him.

And people will say, well,

he signed the bill.

He signed the civil rights bill.

Yeah, after opposing it for 20 years.

Yeah, he did finally because he knew he had to by then.

He had to.

The stuff he said to the people around him,

including constantly to African Americans.

I mean, the guy,

not a good guy.

Absolute racist.

Yeah.

You have to have put him in the conversation there for worst president of all time.

He also enmeshed us much more deeply in Vietnam, which was a massive, to me, mistake.

You know, it'd be nice if we could learn from some of those mistakes now and stop getting involved in everybody else's problems.

That's a good idea.

Yeah.

It's a good idea.

It's fascinating to you that, like, you know, the Republicans are the warmongers.

Well, it was Nixon that got us out of there.

Right.

You know,

it is.

Nixon's the guy who's doing diplomacy with China.

Like, you know, it is a weird,

the way this stuff, you know, the narratives change in such strange ways with this stuff,

where Republicans who fought for the only people who cared about civil rights for a hundred years

the whole the whole time, yeah, the whole time, and you know, Democrats are the ones.

I mean, we go back with this.

I mean, you know, D'Souza said this in his book, and I have no reason to, I have not found evidence to the contrary that every single member of the KKK was a Democrat, all of them.

That's what it was a Democrat organization.

It was kind of the militant wing of the Democrat Party, in fact, when, you know,

in the early days of the Klan.

Does he claim that there was never,

I mean, because what, there's probably like 19 Klan members today.

I don't know what they are.

Right.

Like, what is David Duke?

I mean, David Duke has run as both a Democrat and a Republican, right?

I think he has.

Over the years.

Yeah.

You know, certainly it's possible now.

But I believe that was his statement.

I remember him saying it on the air, and I was like, really?

Is that true?

And he goes, I mean, he went back and

had a decent amount of backing on it.

uh i haven't gone through every member's list that's an amazing but that's an incredible thing

if that's absolutely true that's amazing wow and we you know so we know all this and and somehow it gets it gets twisted yeah into republicans or the racists yeah they're the ones that hate minorities

no yeah and and we're it's interesting to see this has been one thing that has been fascinating about the trump presidency and more and more recent parts of it specifically, you know, since like the Kanye West thing has gone on.

There's a poll that came out from Rasmussen, who, you know, look, it gives, has a lot of favorable polls for the president, but says that something like 34% of African Americans are now supporting Donald Trump.

Now, if that number were to be true,

we could just cancel the election because Trump will definitely win if that number is true.

Now,

I will say I don't believe the number is that high, but I do believe it's increased.

And, you know,

there is an effect.

We all know there's a reason why companies pay billions of dollars every year to hire celebrities to talk about their products.

Because it moves people.

It makes people consider things they might not have considered before, right?

If you see a new, like, you know, this happens all the time with, you look at Us Weekly, I don't even know if it exists anymore, but that magazine, Us Weekly, and certainly a million different TMZ-type websites, they put the pictures of like, here's a random celebrity walking down the street.

You're like, why would anyone care

this person looks like walking down the street as they're shopping?

Well, I mean,

I watched my wife read those stories and look at those pictures, and she looks at every little detail: what bag are they carrying?

What shoes are they wearing?

What sunglasses do they have on?

And a lot of the times that stuff's just planted, right?

Like they're coming out of a specific store, there's some deal that they have going on.

Celebrities do move people, and purchases are not the only category for that.

And so when you have a guy like Kanye West who's making the arguments that are completely true, I don't like, I have no,

you know, I'm not a Kanye West guy.

You know, I'm not his target demo,

but

he is saying things that conservatives and, you know, dozens or hundreds of conservative black individuals have called us over the years to say these things.

I'm sick of just being told this is how I vote because of the color of my skin.

an individual here.

And Kanye just bringing that argument to the table and connecting the colours.

And calling that out as racist.

As racist.

And at least opening the minds of people who don't follow politics every day.

You know, there's a lot of people who are African-American and it's like, I believe the Democrats have the right vision for me for whatever reason, even though I don't agree with it.

But there's a lot of people, just like there are in every group, who

have no connection to politics and issues on a daily basis.

They watch the Kardashians.

Well, now the Kardashians are hanging in with Donald Trump.

And the other guy in the Kardashians is hanging out with Donald Trump.

And he's saying, you know what?

Maybe you guys should consider at least looking at a different option.

We've tried all this crap for 100 years.

It's not working out all that well for us.

And now we have the lowest unemployment we've ever seen for African Americans.

Why don't we?

I don't know.

Why don't we

entertain this a little bit?

So I do think there is a bump there that is

real.

And when that can be challenged, when it can be the counterculture way, you know,

when the cool thing to do is to question

the thing everyone else is doing.

That's what it used to be, right?

Like when you're growing up, you see what your parents did.

You're like, I don't want to do that.

I want to do this.

I want to go the other way.

Everyone's saying I should do this.

I want to do that.

And that, for whatever reason, has not crossed over

with the Democrats and younger voters and black voters and to some level of Hispanic voters.

If that can be overturned and people can say, just giving a chance, you don't have to agree, but give a chance to the idea that maybe freedom is the best way for you to go.

Maybe you having your own money is the best way for you to go.

Maybe not going to the government for so many things is a better approach.

If that can get out there, there's no reason that can't connect with every group.

It's very human.

You know, not wanting someone in your way, having an opportunity to control your own destiny is very human.

And I think any group would like that.

But it's just, it's got such a crappy brand name on it right now.

Yeah.

It's hard to convince others.

But I mean, someone like Kanye West can make a dent with that audience, I think.

Especially with great music like this.

I mean, how do you argue with that?

You can't.

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New UN report is forecasting potentially catastrophic warming, Stu.

Oh my gosh.

I don't know when you're going to break down and admit this is happening.

It's on.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

Catastrophic 3.4 to 3.9 degrees Celsius.

Oh, my goodness.

By 2,100.

What do you have to say to that?

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

That's what I have to say about it.

Because I don't know how much that is.

There's no way to tell because it's a metric measurement.

It could be

600 degrees.

Could be one degree.

I don't know.

There's no way to tell.

I wish there were.

You could just easily convert it.

It is amazing, though, because their new thing is, now, look, we have to take even more drastic measures.

Yes.

Up to, you know, the whole Paris Accord was nothing now.

The Paris Agreement is a joke.

We got to go way further than that.

And it's like, how can we keep falling for this nonsense?

If the plan they were just recommending

is not even close to adequate now, why would we believe them on their next plan?

And not even close to being abided by either by anybody.

Nobody's doing it.

Nobody's abiding by it.

China's building new coal plants all the time.

It just, it's a joke.

It's a joke.

And, you know, they keep going down this same road.

I don't know that anyone, I don't know that anyone is reacting to it anymore.

I mean, I think people at this point are just throwing their hands up.

Just like, guys, leave me alone.

Oh, I hope so.

I hope you're right.

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All I can say is I didn't land on Plymouth Rock.

Plymouth Rock landed on me.

That's all I can say.

Okay.

In this country.

That's what happened.

Really?

Yeah.

Plymouth Rock landed on me.

Would you like to explain any further?

No.

It doesn't make sense per se.

It really doesn't.

No.

No, it really doesn't.

It is something that people say.

It is something people say,

especially

irritable immigrants who are illegally in this country.

And that's sometimes how they can justify their illegal entry into our country.

Different perspectives from around the world, Pat.

I was reading this article about from the root about Pete Buddhige that kind of made a big splash about how he was calling Buddhajeg a liar because he was like targeting black people and how they didn't care about education or something.

And like you read the quote from Buddhajej and you're like, it's clear what he's saying.

He's basically saying, you know, like we need to make sure that

it's an important thing for everybody and it affects every, like it's very, like, a very vanilla boring statement.

But it turns into this big thing and Buddhajej is calling him and apologizing.

And it's like, oh, I can't even even take it.

I can't take it.

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Hope you have a really happy Thanksgiving and a great Thanksgiving weekend.

coming up.

A lot of football to enjoy.

Although I don't really know what the games are this weekend.

You probably know who the Eagles are playing, right?

Well, of course, the very difficult Miami Dolphins are on the schedule.

That's a tough one.

They won two games this year.

Eagles lose this one.

It's going to be

a dark time.

But no, of course, we have the traditional games tomorrow with Dallas and Detroit playing.

Dallas playing the Bills.

Yeah, which is going to be, that's a really good game.

More on Trivia picks Dallas.

Oh, really?

Yes.

And that's on your podcast right now.

People can listen to that after this program ends.

You can, of course, go listen to More on Trivia with Pat Gray Unleashed.

It happens every Friday, normally, but of course, this week.

It was a very special Wednesday edition.

It is.

And then

Detroit is playing as well.

And then I can't remember what the night game is.

It's weird because Detroit and Dallas always play no matter if they're good or bad or anybody cares.

I guess they will always care about Dallas because they seem to have a national brand.

But Detroit,

when was the last time they were relevant?

It's been a while, and yet they still get the Thanksgiving game.

It's tradition.

It's kind of weird.

It would be weird to not watch a Lions game on Thanksgiving.

I'd be okay with not watching a Lions.

I don't know.

I'm used to it now.

You really would.

There was a lot of years where they would go 2-14, but they'd play like one good game.

on Thanksgiving.

On Thanksgiving.

They'd just inexplicably be competitive that one week.

I don't know how that happens.

So, yeah, that's part of the tradition of Thanksgiving.

You're going to stuff your face with all sorts of food.

And the sides

are the star here.

And you can come fight me about this if you want.

But the bottom line is

because you have

a protein loaf or whatever it is for dinner.

I'm not saying I have a traditional Thanksgiving anymore.

I'll grant you this.

But even back in the day,

turkey was never the good part of that meal.

No, turkey's.

Yeah, turkey's okay.

It's a plate filler.

It's so good.

It's a plate filler.

Yeah.

The stars are you got the mashed potatoes going on.

You got the stuffing going on.

The rolls.

The roll.

The gravy.

The gravy.

Yeah, I'm just going to do it.

Dipping the rolls in the gravy once the roll has been adequately buttered up.

Do you have one weird food that you add to this?

Because I now, every single Thanksgiving have mac and cheese in some form.

Oh, do you?

It's part of it.

It's now part of the traditional Thanksgiving dinner.

I like mac and cheese.

And it should be the part of every dinner, I would argue.

That's probably the star of the dinner, isn't it?

Mac and cheese.

It's never a bad decision.

It's awesome.

Except when you have a heart attack after doing it for three or four days in a row.

But other than that, it's never a bad decision to have mac and cheese.

It's just so freaking good.

It is.

And yes, that is now part of my Thanksgiving every year.

Got to have mac and cheese.

So you guys are doing a restaurant thing this year, right?

So there's no leftovers.

Yeah, it's a little kind of

downside of it.

Yeah, my uncle, who is the greatest guy in the world, he's a former police officer.

But he's been in the hospital for gosh kind of coming up on six months now um from cancer yeah he's he's fighting it hard and he's been moved around a bunch of times and we're really praying for him to to uh to be back by christmas is the hope um but he um

he

he he and his his wife my aunt are that's where they we've hosted thanksgiving for like the last thousand years like every one i can I can remember is all is it here or is it yeah they moved down here a few years ago we used to go back up to New York where they lived for a very long time, and we always there.

My grandparents were right next door.

So that was like the traditional place where we had it.

So this year, it's kind of like, well, you know, we're not going to kind of do that this year because of unfortunate circumstances, but I'll just go to a nice restaurant.

I'm hoping it's going to be very Christmas story-esque.

We're just going to have a goose out on the table and they're just going to decapitate it in front of all my children.

That's what I assume happens at restaurants on Thanksgiving.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does.

But no cleanup.

I mean, that's kind of nice.

That is nice.

No cleanup.

No leftovers, but no cleanup.

Though I could just order too much food

and just bring it home.

Yeah, you could.

There's nothing stopping me.

That's the thing about being an adult.

You don't realize that.

You know what you want.

Sometimes my kids will ask me for, you know, like a, and they want a snack or something.

And I think to myself, I can just have a snack whenever I want.

No one can.

No one wants to.

You don't have to ask anybody?

And if you look at me, you say he does have snacks whenever he wants.

Yeah.

And I will grant you, it doesn't always have good outcomes.

But it is a nice thing to realize about your life.

It is.

There is that moment where you're like, you know what?

I eat that thing.

A piece of candy, I could just eat it.

You know what?

You know what?

One thing I always have in my house?

Sugary cereals.

Because I never had sugary cereals when I was a kid.

So now there's always like some crazy, you know, Captain Crunch variety in

my little pantry thing there.

It's always in there.

I love Captain Crunch.

Although it tears up the roof of your mouth, I still love it.

It brutalizes your mouth.

I still love it.

And look, the guy, I don't know what he's good at.

I mean, he may be a great military captain, but he is, you know, he's terrible at making cereal.

He made that entire line of cereals that was just berries.

Yeah.

He still says oops, all berries.

30 years later.

It's like just all.

What scam is that?

You had a problem.

Right.

Okay.

Fix it.

Just fix it.

You know, this is not hard.

You've had plenty of time to fix the oops in the oops all berries.

Right.

Put some other kinds of cereal in there that were supposed to be there.

I don't know what you would intend it to do.

Going for.

Or to say, you know what?

Look, it was oops, all berries.

We realize people like it, so now it's just all berries.

Thanks for you, too.

Yes, cross out the oops.

We're not doing this by mistake anymore.

Okay, we know what we're doing now.

Exactly.

Because I'm starting to wonder about your other cereals now.

If you can't get this one right after 30 years, yeah.

I mean, oops, a little poison.

Is that your next cereal?

I'm concerned.

When

is the captain drunk as he's making these cereals?

He's must be.

He's got to be.

Drunker on opioids.

I don't know.

It's possible.

Yeah.

It's possible.

I don't want to think that way, but I think it might be true.

I think so.

And these things happen, by the way.

You know, like the

fiery

Cheetos?

You know, the Flamin' Hot Cheetos?

Yeah.

Were kind of a mistake.

They were?

Yeah, they had, it was a,

there's actually a movie coming out about this.

They're actually making...

a feature, like a legit feature release movie about the story of Flamin' Hot Cheetos.

Really?

Yeah, because

I'm going to butcher it a little bit, but the basic story was they had a bunch of like non-Cheeto dusted Cheetos

for some reason, an excess.

I don't remember the reason why.

And so a guy who worked at the plant, who was like a mid-level guy,

he decided to take home the non-flavored Cheetos and dusted them with some fiery sauce that I guess, because he came from like, I want to say, it might have been a Cuban background or something, where he had these spices that they used on other foods and and you just had to kind of dump them on the Cheetos.

And it was like, these are fantastic.

Brought them in, people liked them.

Cheetos just started making them.

And now they're like one of their most popular varieties.

And now he runs the company or something like that.

That's my

version of the story.

Probably the truth is something very different, but that's how I understand that story.

It is something like that.

Good story, though.

Yeah, it's kind of cool, right?

I like that.

You know, and he's like a, he was a, turned into a real bigwig at the company.

I mean, he was,

you know, running a giant chunk of it in some way, which is is great.

And I got to say, like, I don't mind a spicy Cheeto.

I just want them to be more cheesy.

The flame in hot Cheetos does not seem to have any cheese dust on it.

It just seems to be spicy dust.

And that's not okay.

No, that isn't.

Not in my mind.

No, you need cheese.

You got to have cheese.

Got to have the cheese.

So I don't know.

I mean,

between the drunk captain

with the oops all berries for 30 years or whatever it's been.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, you look at a company like Bluebell here in Texas.

Oops, we produce Listeria in our ice cream.

Oops.

Listeria.

See, that would have been a much better marketing.

We just put it out with an oops.

Oops.

Listeria.

Oops, Listeria.

Well, they corrected it, right?

It took them a couple of years or maybe a year, but they finally corrected it.

And then they stopped doing the Listeria.

Yeah.

These companies just don't, I mean, they should just start doing that.

Like with, I mean, Jack in the Box had those issues back in the day.

They'd be like, oops, salmonella.

Right.

Oops, a dash of salmonella.

What are you going to do?

Yes.

You know?

With Tylenol.

Oops, a little cyanide.

It happens.

You know, if you direct it.

I don't know if that's legal, but my assumption is if you put out a product and you say, oops, and say the poison that's in it, you're cool.

I think you are.

I can't say that.

You can't get in trouble for that.

No, you can't.

Because you told him, going in.

Oops, we made a mistake here.

There's poison in this food.

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Oops, bad sensor.

Just put it on the side of the plane.

It could have saved themselves a lot of trouble if they would have done that.

But they didn't.

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They didn't.

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Yeah.

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You're on the Glen Pack program with Pat and Stu.

Hey, guys.

Hey.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving.

First, I want to say, Stu, I really appreciate your points of view.

It's very rare that somebody gets me to think about things in a different perspective.

And so I just want to say I really appreciate it.

You're the greatest American

in this country.

You should know that.

Yeah, well, and I also know that you're like, you know, a Canadian sports hero, right?

Yeah, Canadian sports celebrity, of course, yes.

Yeah, celebrity, yeah, okay.

Okay, so, but anyway, I'm calling because I have a very important point.

Might seem silly at first, but it's very valid, and I'm going to back it up.

We will not see a President Buttigig, and here's why.

His name.

That's it.

His name.

His name is.

That's some expert analysis right there.

If you look at the history of all of our presidents, none of them have, you know, crazy, outlandish, weird names.

The only one that is the exception is Obama.

And he has one big thing going for him.

That was he was black.

And I can say that because I'm black.

So I think that you will not see, he might win the nomination, but he's not going to be president because nobody is going to want to say President Buttigig over and over and over again.

I mean, just think about it.

We've had Garfields.

we've had Jacksons, Johnsons, Andrews.

They're all normal names.

You know, this is how you knew instantly that John Hickenlooper was not going to win the nomination.

That was not going to happen because it can't happen.

That's an interesting point.

I remember someone very early on saying, and it was a sort of a, I would say, a criticism of the United States and voters in general.

And they said, look, this country is basically way too racist to elect a guy whose last name is one letter away from Osama and his middle name is Hussain.

Like, this country's way too racist to vote that guy into office.

And we saw how that turned out.

And they were completely wrong on that.

You're right.

The Buddha Judge thing is, it takes a while for people to

figure out how to say it.

It takes a while to get it to roll off the tongue a little bit.

I don't know if that prevents it, but it is.

You're right.

There's not a lot of examples to the contrary.

But, yeah, personally, I like calling him booty gig.

I think that sounds better.

It's more fun.

It's more fun.

All right.

Thank you very much.

Appreciate the phone call.

Marco in Ohio, you're on the Blaze or the Glenn Beck program on the Blaze.

Hey, guys.

Thanks for having me on.

Make sure you say hi to Glenn for me when he comes back.

We'll do.

Hey.

I have,

oh, I also love Captain Crunch, but hate the rough roof of the mouthpiece.

Right?

It destroys it.

I have top five.

Real quick, I'll go over of my theories.

Trump and Bloomberg, and maybe Bezos, I think they're so independent.

You know, like Trump's really not a Republican as much as he is an independent, which has caused the big stirrup.

And I think that the inside deep state does not want an independent.

They want someone they can control.

Then there's Obama distancing himself away from Biden because of the corruption connection.

Also, he probably started noticing the absent-mindedness and the quid pro quo stuff he doesn't want to be associated with.

But Michelle, I don't think she has the personality to handle the pressure.

I think that she's exposed herself in the past of being very strong-voiced.

And I think she'd have a very short temper, and I think it would start to show if she started running and being in the public eye.

Warren,

her support, supporters never listened to the the conservatives for four or three years in a row.

Nothing is free, we kept telling them.

Now she states how much this is going to cost, and all of a sudden the light bulb goes on with her supporters and they start backing off, like is known as the 14% drop.

Impeachment is nothing more than Democrats' way of using taxpayers' money.

for free smear campaign.

They're using our money just to smear him to try to gain voters.

DNC is in debt.

They have no money.

So I think this is just a way of using government money to try to affect the election.

And it's interesting, quickly, before you go off of that one.

It's unclear what the effect of this is.

It really could go either way.

I think there's a strong argument to be made that

the branding of impeachment is a real negative for the president politically, even if he gets the Senate does not remove him, which I'm sure they will not.

But still, they're going to be able able to say he was impeached over and over again.

And there's never been a president in American history who's tried to go through an election with the branding of impeachment on them.

That's never happened in American history.

So we don't know where that goes.

On the other side, there's a good chance, there's a good argument to say.

Trump goes through this, gets impeached in what looks like an absolutely rushed partisan process, and comes out the other side and says, I survived this thing.

I'm stronger than ever.

And the American people say, you know what?

They're not even serious on the other side.

This guy has fought through every one of their attacks, and we're going to reward him for it.

Like, we, it really could go either way here.

And the Democrats are really rolling the dice with us.

They really are.

What's your last quick point?

Well, if it goes that far, he's going to expose all the corruption.

It's just going to get more exposure of that.

My last thought was: I think Rudy was told by Trump to go find the corruption, all the connections, and I think that he's working independently,

my assumption, that he's following the trail and it took him to places like Ukraine.

So he's

been pursuing this.

You know, that's a question.

But I think by saying go where your nose leads you, is also saying I support you.

Yeah, you want to go to

Ukraine, go ahead and go to Ukraine.

So

yeah,

I say he's half independent and half Trump saying, I got your back.

Go where you got to go.

Appreciate it.

Thanks a lot, Marco.

I hope that's right.

Otherwise, that could lead to some trouble, I fear, with what he just said to Bill O'Reilly.

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Josh in Pennsylvania.

Hi, you're on the Glenn Back Program.

Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call.

I have two points.

The first one, as far as impeaching Trump

and foreign diplomacy, isn't that what a quick pro quo is?

We give you money to influence, to expand American influence in return.

I don't know what else it could be.

Whenever you give money to a foreign country, you ask them to do something.

Isn't that

what foreign diplomacy, eh?

Yes, it just can't be for political gain.

That's all.

And I don't think this was.

I think it was in the national interest.

But I don't know why they're not playing that hand.

They don't seem to be, but they certainly could, and I think should.

Because I really believe it's in the national interest to root out any corruption that was coming, especially that was coming from our side.

Let us know what happened here.

If you guys think this was really corrupt, we'd appreciate your help on that because we want to root it out.

That's not too much to to ask.

But

if he's impeached over it, I think it's going to be because he hasn't said this was in the national interest.

This was not political.

This was national interest.

Why won't they say that?

And I don't know.

My big question is, you know, Peter Schweitzer and Greg Jarrett and Glenn and even Sean Hannity, they've made such a strong case that they're going after the president with literally no evidence.

And, you know, the evidence is piling up on the inverse where the Democrats have gone out after him illegally.

You know,

how are they going to be held accountable?

I mean, it's almost like we know all of this stuff has happened.

We know they're investigating him.

They're changing the FICE applications.

When or how are these guys going to be held accountable for going after the president with literally nothing?

It's a good question.

Well, I would say in November, right?

November of 2020 is when they need to be held responsible.

Just like if you think Trump did something bad here, that's when he should be held responsible.

We should have,

I want to vote on impeachment.

You should have a vote on impeachment.

Everyone should.

The impeachment is: hey, he's going to be removed in a year if you think he's doing a crappy job.

And if, if, look, I know there's just millions of voters out there that vote are single-issue Ukraine corruption voters.

So if that's you, I can understand where you're going on this thing.

But I mean,

the idea that they have to remove this guy from office in the middle of a campaign, it's so blatantly partisan and nonsensical that I I don't think the American people will will will reward it.

I don't think that at the end of the day, they're going to say this is the right way,

the type of behavior we want more of in this country.

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Pat and Stu for Glenn of the Glen Beck Program.

Joined now

by Jeff Fisher.

Yeah.

Hello.

Jeffy?

Hello.

How are you doing?

Good.

I take a little issue with you before we get into the real reason I'm here, but Michael Bloomberg, who's now announced that he's running for president.

He's in the presidential campaign.

You were saying that he is

less than.

Well, I said he has all the charisma of a bathroom bulb brush, and I think that was an exaggeration.

He has about half the charisma of a bathroom bulb brush.

I don't know.

Maybe you didn't see his

announcement speech in Norfolk?

No, I think I missed that.

I have a clip of the end of it

that will show you just how

wrong you are.

Okay.

The fire that's in the belly of Michael Bloomberg.

But more than plans, I offer the leadership to turn plans into reality, to roll up my sleeves, to motivate our country, to unite and rebuild America and make it fairer and better.

Fairer.

I'm ready to get to work, so let's get it on.

I stand correct.

So I stand correct.

There is charisma dripping out of that guy.

It's shooting out of him.

You talk about fire.

He is Enfuego.

He practically burst into flame.

He's so on fire.

Wow.

He's not good.

He's electorate.

He is not good at all.

They don't have a good candidate.

They really don't.

They don't have one.

Even

the Republican race, there was a bunch of good candidates.

But there were people who never really even made

a serious challenge.

Like a guy like Marco Rubio, who was in fourth, fifth place.

But like you could see he's a good candidate, right?

Whether you like his policies or not.

We counted like seven or eight.

Yeah, that were pretty good.

That were pretty decent.

They don't really

Butjej is a good candidate.

Yeah, maybe.

I don't know if there's anyone else.

I don't know if there's anybody else in that field that's a good candidate.

Forget the policies.

I'm just saying just purely on politics.

Is there another.

I mean, you want to like Tulsi, but.

Yeah, I mean, mean, Tulsi has, you know, there's something there.

But it's not a lot.

I mean, some people like Corey Booker, I'll never understand it.

They don't have anybody who has a chance to win.

That's the thing.

No, because Gabbard, yeah, is likable.

And Buddha Judge is likable, I guess.

I mean,

none of them have a chance to win the nomination.

Yes.

I mean,

Trump, let alone notable.

Yeah.

Oh, they can't beat Trump, but I don't think they have a shot at the nomination.

Like, Buddha Judge, you think he's going to win the nomination?

I mean, he's got a shot at it now, I would say.

But, I mean, he ⁇ I don't...

probably not.

It's still hard for me to believe that the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is going to go directly to the presidency.

It does seem like quite a step.

Yes, it sure does.

But it's possible.

And I don't think we should dismiss the idea that none of these people can beat Trump.

You get into a one-on-one situation.

Anything can happen.

And, you know,

a downturn in the economy in August, and this thing is going to be impossible for Trump to win.

There are a lot of factors here.

But the economy is perfect.

It's pretty good right now.

It's terrific.

There's never been

a better economy in the history of the world.

This is the greatest economy there's ever been, so I can't imagine a downturn.

There's not a single person right now that's unemployed.

No.

Everybody's employed.

Unemployment's at its lowest rate for everybody everywhere.

I will say the strength of the economy is best personified in this room, that Jeffy has a job.

I mean, if Jeffy has a job, it's a good point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're overemployed in this country.

Like, we have too many jobs.

In fact, I'm looking for more work.

Really?

I'm looking for more work.

I was excited yesterday when you did your story on the Cameo website where people,

you know, you're able to

be asked to do things for people on video from Cameo.

Now, this is different than your websites where the same type of thing happens, but it's a little

different.

The requests are different.

The requests are different.

Although

maybe they're different.

They are not.

This is like where you would typically have somebody wish someone else a happy birthday.

Right.

That's what you would think.

Hey, congratulations on graduating college, right?

Like there's little, and they're from celebrities, like someone from, there's a couple people from the office.

Stanley from the office is on there.

You can just pay him a couple hundred bucks and he'll say, hey, I'm Stanley from the office, whatever my actual name is, and please, you know, like have a good day or whatever, right?

I hope your breakfast was delicious.

Whatever the happy anniversary.

Exactly.

Right.

Now, the reason we talked about this yesterday is different.

Right.

Because you had your boy who's doing the breakup.

Yeah, Mark McGrath.

Do we have a clip of this real quick?

This is Mark McGrath McGrath on this app Cameo from yesterday.

What's up, Brayden?

It is Mark McGrath from the band Sugaray off the charts, but always in your hearts.

And this cameo was booked by Cheyenne, and she wants you to know a few things.

And this is a little difficult for me to say because it's the first one of these I've done, but she wants you to know.

That you mean a lot to her.

You mean the world to her.

But she's having difficulty staying in this long-distance relationship.

But again, you mean the world

to her.

Yeah.

You just don't know what you're around anyway.

I've been with my wife a long time.

So anyway, you get the point.

You get the point.

It's Mark McGrath breaking up with a boyfriend.

But again, don't get me wrong.

You mean the world.

It's just that she doesn't want to be see you again in life.

Right.

But after life.

Maybe.

Probably not.

No, but maybe.

But I'm thinking that is a great idea.

Because a lot of people don't want to do that.

It's a great idea.

A lot of people don't want to be the person that tells you things.

So if you have something, like, I'm willing, this is what I'm willing to do on Cameo.

What are you willing to do?

No,

I did, I'm not up on Cameo yet.

I applied, and they haven't gotten back to me yet.

Wait, are you?

So

you're willing to break up with people?

Wait, hold on one second.

We need to explore this a little bit.

Is Cameo telling you you're not a big enough celebrity?

No, they haven't gotten back to me yet.

They won't go sub-screech-level celebrities, and that's where you exist down there.

Screech level.

How dare you?

Is that what's happening here?

No, they just haven't gotten it.

There's an approval process.

Yes, And that process is.

So do you set your own price?

Or do they set your price?

I believe you do set your price.

You do set your own price.

Okay, so you're going to ask for what?

$1?

$1.50?

Something like that?

I'm thinking,

what?

$50?

$50?

$50?

50 cents is...

No.

$50?

Okay, okay, $40.

I frankly wouldn't do it for less than $100, but we're talking about you now.

What $30 will you take?

Seriously?

What's it going to take?

Well, it just depends.

See, as I was thinking that,

I'm willing to do if you, if there's a sickness you don't want to tell anybody about, I'll tell them, you know, grandma's sick, divorces,

addictions.

Okay.

Breakups are easy.

I mean, you saw how easy that is.

Deaths.

You don't want to tell people somebody died.

You're willing to do, hey, your loved one died.

I just have a, oh, you know, like divorces or affairs.

Okay, let's ask, because this is interesting.

Do a little commercial for your service here.

Like, if someone, if you wanted to tell

your husband about an affair and you go to Jeffy's cameo page and you book that,

what does that look like?

Give me a version of that.

Hey, Stu.

Hey,

you don't need to personalize it.

You ask, I guess.

Hey, Stu.

This is Jeffy, you know, just above screech level.

And your wife wanted me to let you know that she loves you very much.

Lisa wanted me to let you know that she loves you very much.

That's nice.

And she still wants to be together with you.

Oh, that's great.

She still wants to be with you.

That's great.

But

why would she be confirming that?

But she wanted to let you know that she had an affair with the bug guy.

The bug guy?

The guy that comes over and

she just wanted to let you know that if word got out that it did happen.

But she still loves you very much.

Oh, are you sure it wasn't Peter Strzok?

No, it's just a different Lisa Page.

Oh, okay.

I got to say, that was much easier taking from you than it would have been.

That's what I mean.

It seemed fun from Jackie.

She made it seem fun.

I would totally pay 50 bucks for that.

I think I'd pay you 50 bucks for that.

Thank you.

Yeah.

That's really good.

I'm for it.

This is good.

Little stuff.

Little stuff.

The divorce would be hard, but you know, I used to.

Yeah.

This is Jeffy.

Hi.

Well, I'm not really talking to you here or a video, but okay.

And

Lisa wanted me to.

Again?

Lisa wanted me to send you a message.

Oh, okay.

Here on cameo.

It's not the bug guy, is it?

She likes Peter a little more than she thought she did.

It happens.

I'm not very likable, so I don't blame her for this.

And so she just wanted to let you know that your stuff is out in the front lawn when you come home today, So you need to pick it up.

And yeah, she wants a divorce.

Wow.

That was a little harder to take.

Yeah, I felt that too.

I have to imagine actually hearing that from your wife would be more difficult than from just this guy who's at the screech level.

Some of us have been through this.

This is a really good idea.

It softens the blow.

What about, let me present this to you as an option.

Now, because, you know, look,

I'm an individual.

I only have so much money to spend.

But like a big company, like a big company that, like, let's just say, you know,

you're Boeing.

You got the 737 MAX.

It's had some issues.

Yeah, it has.

Wants to inform some people whose relatives may have been on that plane.

Ooh, that'd be tough.

How does something like that go?

That would be really hard.

Hey, Stu.

These all start with hey, Stu?

Yeah.

These.

These do, yeah.

All right.

Well, let's go back to the beginning.

Hey, Stu.

Yes.

It's Jeff here.

Jeffy.

You know me just above Screech.

I never said above Screech.

Let's be clear about this.

No, you said below Screech.

I'm not doing that.

Okay.

It's been a problem.

There's been a problem.

It's been a problem.

This has been a problem.

Yeah.

Remember when you were flying your dog back home?

Mm-hmm.

And your dog was on the 737 MAX?

Yeah, it's a brand new plane.

It's all the best technology.

It didn't make it.

So you're not going to see your dog anymore.

Oh, wow.

That didn't seem

to be.

No.

It would need to be slightly improved.

But I mean, you could get like $100,000 from Boeing to do that.

Absolutely, Boeing.

Yes.

And people.

Email me, chewingthefat at theblaze.com.

The thing about you, too, is like people already have disdain for you.

So they don't like,

they're not going to necessarily transfer that to the company.

They're just going to add more hatred to you and your profile, which is not going to affect you.

You're already in that business.

Boys already give me $100,000.

Right.

You don't care.

You've got more money and you're just hated as much as you were before.

Maybe a little more, but are you even going to notice that?

Probably not.

No, I'm not noticing it at all.

I don't care.

This is a good business for you.

This is a good business for you.

So are you really going to go up on cameo?

Yeah.

I mean,

I'm assuming that they're going to allow me up.

Yeah, I don't.

You do need some notoriety.

It's not just notorious.

You need to actually have some notoriety.

Well, I mean, thanks to you, I am an expert on rape.

That's true.

So, you know,

I think

you may want to give a little context to that.

If you do search, by the way, this is true.

If you search for Jeffy's name and you get past the mentions of the former Tennessee Titans coach and Rams coach,

you will get to Jeffy and you will eventually.

Wonderful World of Stew.

Yeah, Wonderful World of Stew, in which he played a role a little too well, in my opinion, as a rape expert.

And now the name Jeff Fisher rape expert is all over the internet.

And I don't know that that's necessarily, again, good for your profile.

But is it worse than the way people think about you already?

I don't know.

No, I don't know.

And looks, if it ups my cameo profile for Boeing to drop 100 grand for me to tell people bad things, I'm all for it.

All right, I'm going to sign up.

I ain't going to have you break all the bad news in my life from now on.

I'm good with it.

Thank you.

No problem.

I'm here for you.

I'm not paying no $30 for you, but, you know, and $1.50 sounded about right when Pat said it.

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Anybody buying that there was a super velocity UFO that just passed by the Earth?

NASA's released photographs of

unexplained sound waves moving across the Earth at high velocity speeds.

High-tech cameras on the International Space Station captured it.

The bizarre images have sparked a frenzy of speculation of where it came from.

The images show a strange cloud pattern that looks as if it was produced by some unidentified flying object, a secret sonic weapon.

The mysterious ripples in the clouds extend for miles from space.

The images were first spotted by NASA, the NASA website, by Blake and Brett Cousins, who run the Conspiracy Theorist Group YouTube channel, Third Phase of the Moon.

But they're right on a lot of things.

Really?

A lot of things.

Third phase of the moon?

Yeah.

They're right in the first two phases.

Yes.

Both of the YouTubers agree that whatever it was, it was massive.

Both of them agree.

Do we have just one of those news stories that include the phrase, both of the YouTubers agree?

That's a news story.

What's wrong with that?

It doesn't seem like what are like two people said on Twitter.

Like, that's not a news story.

Yeah, that's not.

The fact that two people said something on Twitter just means it's a thing that can be said.

All things are said on Twitter.

I know, but two YouTubers agreed with NASA here.

And let's not forget, they have a website called Third Phase of the Moon.

So,

oh, that's a great point and all, but I just

feel like, you know, maybe we'd need a little more evidence.

Really?

Like, for example, yesterday when they shut the White House down, they were were like, oh, where did you hear about that?

The slow blob moving in the sky.

Yeah, that freaks you out.

A slow blob moving in the sky.

They locked down the White House.

It was a bunch of birds.

That's it?

In a flock.

Has that been confirmed on YouTube yet?

Third Phase of the Moon thinks it was an alien.

But everyone else seems to think it were birds.

But again, those are the same people who tell you that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.

Thank you.

They closed down the White House for 20 minutes because of birds.

Wow, they're aggressive birds back.

That's amazing.

It is amazing.

And again,

and embarrassing.

Yeah.

Wow.

Wow, the same day he was pardoning birds, then more birds are shutting down the White House and then the world's gone.

Right?

World's gone.

Shut it down.

He was actually pretty funny on the pardon of the turkey thing when

he was talking about the fact that, yes, they've been pardoned, but they've already been subpoenaed by Adam Schiff and his group.

He'll be asked to testify in the basement of

the Capitol building.

He didn't get a laugh.

That was a pretty good moment for him.

He didn't.

He didn't get the laps he deserved.

He's a good time, though.

I know.

So, all right.

Well, have a great Thanksgiving.

Thank you.

Not you.

Not you.

Everybody else, have a great Thanksgiving.

Jeffy, yours.

You can have an okay Thanksgiving.

We have this blanket that has smallpox on it.

You're take that.

Really?

You're listening to Glenn Beck.