Rudy Giuliani Is EXPOSING the DNC’s Ukraine Scandal! | Guest: Sharyl Attkisson | 11/21/19

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Glenn can’t look at Adam Schiff any more! The impeachment hearings are just American disinformation. The Left insists everything Trump says is a conspiracy theory. Today’s inquisition features David Holmes, who overheard a call, and Fiona Hill, who will focus on Russia. But yesterday Glenn spoke to the president’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, and he explained EXACTLY what he was doing in Ukraine (being a defense attorney)! He also corroborates a connection Glenn recently found linking Obama, Soros, the Anticorruption Bureau, and an FBI agent named Greenaway. Journalist and host of “Full Measure” Sharyl Attkisson describes the hearings as a last gasp of the State Department bureaucrats who insist they run the show.
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Today, Fiona Hill is going to be talking, and she's just going to make it very, very clear that, you know, all these fictional narratives about any kind of influence on our election with Ukraine is just that, fictional.

Well, how?

We have the tape of them admitting doing it.

We have the documents of showing who was paid for what.

A couple of convictions.

We have a couple of convictions on it.

Now, she's going to make the point today that

Russia is the only player in this.

No, Russia did try to influence our election.

And if you'd like to go back in a time tunnel, we luckily have an archive section in the Blaze, and you can see all those shows where we talked about this in 2013, what Russia was going to do.

But that's separate from Ukraine.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenbeck program.

Could you help me with one thing?

If there is anyone near the studios today, I am in dire need of an entire box of duct tape that I will need to wrap my head.

Just, it's not going to stop it from exploding today, but I at least will be able to go to the doctor and say, I have all of the pieces.

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Just glue it back together and maybe you can put a couple of steel plates because I know it's going to blow again.

Today, the impeachment hearing.

Oh, today is going to be good.

Today we're going to learn from

Schiff and all of his cronies about how Russia is doing this.

Russia is planting all this information about Ukraine.

It's Russia, Russia, Russia has nothing to do with Ukraine.

Is everything in life a binary choice?

Is everything

except people's sexuality,

except your gender?

That's the only thing fluid.

Everything else is a binary choice.

It's either Russia or Ukraine.

It can't be that Russia was doing it and Ukraine was doing it.

Couldn't be that.

No, no, no.

So we will be.

we'll ask America to narrow its focus again today.

Don't look at big pictures.

You're too stupid.

You look a little picture.

It was only Russia doing that.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

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All right.

Today,

we are going to learn from the committee how

Russia's the only one who is trying to affect us.

There's no way anybody could possibly do that in Ukraine.

They're all good.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

I thought the whole story was that they weren't, that everyone in Ukraine was incredibly corrupt.

Oh.

Oh, no, but not about the election.

They're good.

They're Boy Scouts on the election, even though two of them were sentenced to prison.

And do we have the tape?

Could we just play the I just want to

oh, here's here's the director of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, which was set up by the Obama administration and the Soros people

to root out corruption.

So their hand-picked guy is Artem Stinyk.

and

how do I say what's his name Steinik Sitnik Sitnik okay sitnik whatever

Artem his first name is Artem do I care about his second name by the way

he's the director of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine started by us

and what's he talking about here

that he actually helped the Hillary Clinton campaign oh yeah that's right he's bragging about how he was working to to throw the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Now, if you don't think that they had any reason, you think that was just bribery or whatever, no, no, no.

All of these people, because they are all George Soros people,

all these people felt that Donald Trump was just going to be the worst guy ever for Ukraine because he's

too pro-Russia.

So their country, they believed, was at stake because he was just not going to do anything.

We're only getting blankets from the Obama administration.

We need bombs and weapons.

He'll never do that.

That's exactly what he did.

He went in and gave them the weapons that Obama wouldn't give them.

That's just how pro-Russia he is.

So they were all motivated to make sure that Hillary Clinton

was the next president.

Here he is admitting it, the head of the Anti-Corruption Bureau, that he's the guy who did it.

And we're now going to be told by who?

Who?

Dr.

Hill?

Dr.

Hill.

Okay, I insist that you call me Dr.

as well.

Okay?

I'm Dr.

Beck.

So Dr.

Hill is going to tell us how there is nothing going on in Ukraine today.

Jason,

welcome to the program.

Thank you.

Jason is our head researcher

and has been absolutely brilliant on putting this story together.

We have another,

you know, I can't call them specials anymore because really every show that you're watching, because this is so fast and furious,

every show you're watching, if you missed it last night, you missed Rudy Giuliani.

We're going to go through that.

phone call from him yesterday on the TV show.

It was

jaw-dropping.

Now, of course, all the people who didn't listen to it just saw me doing it with Rudy Giuliani were like, oh, he's just a conspiracy theory and you don't have any facts.

And okay, whatever.

Anybody who is actually cares what the truth is, anybody who says, yes, Dr.

Franklin, Dr.

Franklin,

I know we have a republic and I know what it takes to keep it.

I actually have to be well informed and look at all of the evidence to keep a republic.

Those people, they actually watched.

Tonight, you need to watch.

Tonight, what are we exposing?

Well, we initially were just going to talk about George Kent because his name kept popping up.

He testified last week.

The media coverage was absolutely ridiculous.

That's kind of what first put him on my radar.

They were talking about the guy's bow tie in the New York Times.

They wrote an entire column about the guy's bow tie.

They wrote an entire column about the guy's water bottle in the Post.

I was like, what are they doing with this guy?

They're setting him up to be a star.

Why?

Well, they were making him out to be this ultimate debunker of all these, you know, lunacy, all this lunacy, all these conspiracy theories.

And the more we dug into him, the more this became less just, again, focusing on one single thing in George Kent, but everything surrounding the man.

And then everything that was updated from our special last week.

It was moving rapidly.

Glenn, while you were on the stage, I know.

Something was happening towards Soros' grand strategy while you were on stage.

And while I, I, I believe I either asked before we went on the special or I asked off the top of my head during the special, what is it that Soros is going to buy?

What is it that he's doing with this money?

He says,

the spooky dude's going to write big checks and I'll write checks in

Ukraine.

I prefer write checks to Czech Republic because I think it's funny, but I'm going to disrupt here.

And he said he's going to write checks and he's going to he's going to buy into their free market.

Are you going to expose this tonight or can I talk about this now?

No, we're going to expose this tonight.

Okay.

So

this is crazy.

It's crazy.

And all the documentation is there.

And people in Ukraine are standing up going, help us.

Yeah, you've got to watch every single show that we do in the afternoons because don't think of them how they were.

Every single show is like a special now because we are so deep into this, we're following it real time.

The things that they hatched back in 2015, if you watched the special last week,

the parts of the plan are still happening

day by day, day by day.

I will tell you,

I haven't even told you this yet.

I need you to shore this up with evidence, but I can tell you what the end game is of the Democrats.

I asked this question on the air

yesterday of myself.

What is the end game?

What are they going to do?

How are the Democrats going to use it?

I know it, and I know Soros

will have his fingers all over it.

And I need you to look into certain places and I'll tell you off the air, but I'm going to tell you on the air today what I think the end game is.

I'm going to tell you what the next year, in the next 18 months, what's going to happen with the Democrats and

Donald Trump, the election, all of it.

I will tell you exactly where we're headed.

Anyway, if you used to watch us on Fox and you were like, oh, this,

when the chalkboard is out, it's the best.

When he's trying to break things down, I'm telling you,

I'm doing the best work I've ever done in my career.

And we are spot on.

I know it.

We've got him.

We've got him.

Hang on just a sec.

Mike in Florida said he just watched the Ukrainian special.

Hi, Mike.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm very well.

I watched that special, and obviously it makes your head spin.

I mean, you did a great job of piecing it all together, and I feel like I need to watch it like five more times to really get a handle on what you said there.

But my question is,

since you put that out, have you been contacted by any politicians to question the

validity of your information?

And are there any plans to get you to testify when the Republicans ever get the opportunity to call anybody forward?

No.

And

you shouldn't call me.

I would be discredited immediately as a conspiracy theorist and everything else.

I would be a bad witness, a bad choice for the Republicans to call, but I can tell you the names of people they should call that have actual first-hand knowledge of all of this stuff.

There have been...

Two Republicans that have reached out to me and asked me for information.

I sent them all the original documents,

and then I have not heard anything back.

I have talked to friends on Capitol Hill and said,

what the EFF is wrong with you guys?

What is wrong with you?

And the story that I get back is, Glenn, it's so complex, it's going to look like a

crazy, crazy conspiracy theory.

How do we go on television and lay this out?

And I learned something from Rudy Giuliani last night.

Did you happen to see last night's show, Mike?

I did not.

Okay.

Go to YouTube.

Are you a subscriber to the Blaze?

I am not.

Oh, my gosh.

What is wrong with you?

I mean, seriously, we're here

pouring our heart out.

Okay, look, Mike, don't hang up the phone after I'm done.

Producers, get him set up for a year subscription to the Blaze.

I want you to watch last night's show.

You can see

most of it on

YouTube because we streamed it live on YouTube and then I ran out of time for the 22 minutes.

And so we went extra.

And you can find all the extra on Blaze, but it's only on the Blaze.

But

watch Rudy Giuliani.

One thing that everybody says about Rudy Giuliani lately is, the guy's gone nuts.

The guy's gone nuts.

He's like flailing and yelling and screaming, right?

that's what everybody says.

He's not Rudy Giuliani anymore.

What's happened to him?

I can tell you what's happened to him because the real Rudy Giuliani, the one I know from the past, America's neighbor, a mayor, he showed up last night and I figured out what happened to Rudy Giuliani.

I'll tell you about that in one minute.

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So, Stu, as you were watching this show unfold yesterday with Rudy Giuliani, did you notice a difference in his demeanor?

Yeah,

he seemed very focused.

Right.

He wasn't scattered.

He wasn't.

Yeah, it seemed like he knows the details of this very well.

Okay.

Now,

if you have spent

two years of your life and you're doing the detective work, okay, and you're going in and

you're gathering all of the information and you're having to deal with dirtbags, liars, thieves, trying to figure out what's true, what's not.

You've put your whole life into it for a two-year period, 18-month period, and you're getting hammered.

And you knew you're going to get hammered, but you're a prosecutor.

You're one of the, you're the guy who put the Gambino crime family away.

So you've got credibility.

And you're like, okay, but if I get the evidence,

they're going to listen to it.

I'll be able to get it out.

And then

no one listens to it.

Everyone calls you a kook.

No one will look at the actual facts.

They'll talk about the hearsay of this person, but they won't look at actual paper documents and court records that totally shift this narrative.

Okay.

And now you're on TV and you know you have four minutes,

and the person is like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but why are you bringing out the whistleblower?

Why are you trying to do that?

You know, you're in bed with all these really bad people, and you're like, Look, I am

at some point, you go nuts.

Yesterday,

uh, Ricky, who is the executive producer of the show, she came in afterwards and she stood there and she looked at me and she shook her head and she said, I just witnessed

a therapy session with two people

who are

so close to the edge because they have the facts and no one will listen, and the country is at stake,

and it seems that we all know it's corrupt in Ukraine, but it's just as corrupt here, and you really didn't think it would be that way, and no one, even the people supporting the president, are really interested in the truth?

she said the two of you were like right right

and he would say something to me and I'm like I know and then this

and

it was a chance for him to not have three minutes that he had to jam in this big complex thing and try to convince someone he could lay the facts out

He knew he knew instantaneously because he had watched the specials.

He said that.

And he said, you're spot on.

You're right on.

And

that gave him the opportunity to be the prosecutor that he's always been.

Rudy hasn't gone nuts.

The press

has just,

and this is my opinion, has frustrated him to the level of

just exploding on them.

Just exploding.

Okay, the hearing is about to begin with Fiona Hill, who's got some really exciting stuff to tell us that it's Russia and Ukraine didn't do anything in 2016.

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Quickly, before we go to the hearings with their just opening statement crap, let me go to Jordan in Missouri.

Hello, Jordan.

Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Hey, hey, thanks, Glenn.

So, first of all, I want to say I'm definitely not a Trump fan at all, but I've been frustrated like you with why he is sticking to this no quid pro quo thing.

I mean, after hearing the testimony yesterday and Giuliani on your special last night, I mean, I finally get it.

If someone's there and Senator Johnson is specifically asking the president about quid pro quo, and he frustratingly says, no, why are you guys so obsessed with this?

That's not, have nothing to do with that.

So I understand now why he's so insistent upon it, even though it may not be the best thing.

I get it.

I finally get it.

And I have two really quick last questions, Glenn.

After watching the Giuliani thing last night, talking about the FBI and Greenaway, have you reached out to, I think it's Patrick Burns, the Overstock CEO, who, I mean, at the time, I didn't understand when he's like, guys, this goes so much deeper than you know.

I'm hoping Barr

Patrick has disappeared.

I think he's left the country

and he's kind of disappeared.

And he's said to me that he'll reappear at some point,

but he is working on some projects that he said are to,

that are completely unrelated.

I mean, he left overstock, sold all of his stock, divorced himself from the company because it's the company he built and he didn't want to hurt it uh and he said he's doing some things that will um

uh i guess help expose the deep state so he'll call us when he's back on on the grid

sound interesting and one last thing after watching your third special um i was wondering if you could explain more about who gene sharp is i know that sololinski is kind of the the guy who orchestrated a modern-day fabian society in America, how to kind of disrupt the system, But I know Gene Sharp kind of is one of the founders of NED that you talked about so much.

And he's kind of the modern day, I mean, I think he's passed away now, but the modern day equivalent of Fabian Socialist of how to disrupt things around the world.

And I didn't see him mentioned in your special unless I missed it.

Yeah, I don't know that we've done any work on Gene Sharp.

I'll look into him and see, you know, what role, you know, if there's something there that I think fits.

But congratulations and good for you on doing your own homework

on this.

So we'll look into Gene Sharp.

Jason, I want to go to Jason, who is our chief researcher

on this.

What are we expecting to hear from

these two that are being called today?

I have very little interest in David Holmes, unless he turns out to be a relation to Sherlock Holmes.

Then I'm very interested.

But I don't know if that

skill runs real deep with

David Holmes because he'll probably say, well, no, I wasn't aware of Jalupa,

wasn't aware of

the embassy being overrun with Soros and Clinton.

And I know Burisma, Burisma's dirty?

I didn't know that.

I am interested in Fiona.

Turn your mic on there.

There you go.

I think that what she's doing is probably exactly what I would do in this case, and that's what infuriated me about the one thing that I disagreed with in the July 25th call was mentioning CrowdStrike and mentioning that whole conspiracy theory about the server.

That I fully believe is a complete dead end and a conspiracy theory.

It's stupid.

We do know that Russia was involved.

You don't have to go on right now and testify to that.

We know that Russia was involved in interfering with the election.

We also know that Ukraine, and this is where I get really frustrated because it's a a diversionary tactic what she's up there to do right now.

She's there to make you think that focus on the conspiracy theories.

And they're trying to say that's what the Trump administration and people like really Giuliani are focusing on: the conspiracy theory, which is bull.

They want to focus on what we've been talking about.

There's two Ukrainians, officials in their government, that have already been convicted for interfering in the U.S.

2016 election.

That's a fact.

And directly, not like interfering, like I'm going to do this on my own, directly working with our State Department, directly working with our

Justice Department, directly.

And that's the Obama and Hillary Clinton campaign.

That's what I was going to get to.

So they were doing that directly in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, a parallel interference campaign was going on in the United States from the Ukrainian embassy in the United States with a DNC operative.

That's why they keep naming

Chalupa.

So we know these things are fact.

We know they happened.

This is not a conspiracy theory.

We have the documents for the love of Pete.

We have the documents.

The court case.

We have the convictions.

We have the hidden camera with a guy admitting how it was working.

And that's why it's so hypocritical.

That's why Schiff is saying you can't call people like Chalupa.

Those are conspiracy theories.

So we're not even going to allow those into the inquiry.

They call Fiona Hill right now to testify about probably CrowdStrike and the server.

They want you to focus on that.

Yeah, they're going to say that everything the president's talking about is a conspiracy theory and so they don't perjure themselves any more than they already have

they're going to keep it

in my opinion and jason agrees that they'll keep it really tightly focused on that and they'll keep that focus on that because They need you to believe that that's all the president was talking about.

That's all that Rudy Giuliani is talking about.

That's if you see a Glenn Beck special on this, that's only about CrowdStrike.

We haven't even mentioned CrowdStrike in any of our specials.

Why?

Because it's stupid.

I mean, bluntly, it's dumb.

That's dumb.

If I find more information later that changes my mind, hey, I'll give him a copa.

But I think it's dumb.

I think there's also another reason for

doing what they're doing today.

It's not only to discredit anybody who's talking about he wanted investigations, And,

you know, they'll say, let's just say, look,

I want to know.

I want to know what was on the tape, the missing 19 minutes,

you know, from Nixon.

I want to know that.

I want to know which documents Sandy Berger took out.

of the National Archives and smuggled out.

I want to know what those documents were.

And you know what?

I wouldn't mind knowing, you know, was Oswald alone?

Well, we know two of those things actually happened.

We know two of those things they could tell us about.

You know what I mean?

I want to hear the tape that recently the left came out and said that

they were talking about, I think, raping a young girl in front of Martin Luther King, or it was happening in the house, and he said nothing.

The left just came out with that that and said the FBI has documents and transcripts and I believe a tape of it.

Okay,

I want to know the truth about this, this, this, and also, you know, was there a shooter in the trees?

What they're doing today is like, he believes that there was an extra shooter in the trees.

When everything else

you have documentation you know happened.

We don't know about the shooter in the trees.

We're pretty sure it was just Lee Harvey Oswald, right?

I mean, at least I'm pretty clear on that.

They're trying to use one thing to discredit everything else, but they're also doing something else that is really dangerous.

They are trying to convince you that the Russia investigation on Donald Trump didn't really cover everything because he's still kind of in with Russia.

Because

these conspiracy theories are coming from Russia.

And look who's stoking those fires.

He's doing the work for Russia.

No, he's not doing the work for Russia.

And

Mueller had he come out with something about Russia,

he'd be impeached today.

But nothing happened with Russia and Trump.

But that doesn't mean that Russia wasn't involved.

We all know that Russia, because we did specials on it starting when?

2013, Jason?

Yeah, easy.

Easy.

We showed you what they were going to do.

We warned.

We begged.

Why is no one standing up about what Russia is going to do in this next election?

We talked about it over and over and over again.

Well, they did it.

They did it.

But it wasn't involved with Donald Trump.

He didn't orchestrate anything with them.

That's what Mueller came out with.

But they did

involve themselves and try to thwart our election.

And they're going to do it again.

But everybody's made it about Donald Trump, not Russia.

What are they doing now?

They're going to make this about Donald Trump and Russia again

and expect that you only can believe one thing.

Well, it was either Russia or Ukraine.

Ukraine, I mean,

Russia, Russia wanted Trump to win because he was so pro-Russia.

And

you believed that,

not you, many people believe that in the country.

What do you think?

You couldn't get the Ukrainians to believe that?

Of course you could get the Ukrainians to believe that.

Because you know who's spoon feeding them that?

George Soros, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the State Department, the embassy.

Everyone was spoon feeding

the people in Ukraine.

Look, Hillary Clinton's your only hope.

He's going to go to the side of the Russians.

He is so anti-Ukraine.

They had it in their

Democrats were making that case.

It's in your best interest to help us win.

They interfered as well.

But we, on the other hand, unlike the Democrats with Russia, have evidence that the Democratic nominee was involved.

And that's not a hoax.

That's not a theory.

That's a fact, period.

Open, closed, fact.

Is there anything that she could say, Jason?

Who is she?

What is her

connection to all of this?

Because she's not even on our chalkboard, is she?

No,

I wasn't looking at her as anyone significant.

Okay,

and who's Holmes?

Holmes is the guy.

He's the aide that overheard the call at the restaurant when Sondlin was talking to Trump and Trump was talking very loudly so that the rest of the table heard it.

And so he was the guy who said, I heard him say he wanted investigations and then went his...

But he also said he heard Biden and

Burisma, did he not?

I don't remember that part of it.

He did say, however, afterwards that the part Sondlin basically said in his testimony, I don't remember that call, but like, yeah, if I got on the phone with Trump, he probably did bring up the investigations.

He brought them up all the time.

So then

the part that he did not agree with his aide Holmes on is that Holmes said after we were done, after he was done with the call, we started asking him questions.

And we asked him about, like, does he, you know, does Trump care about Ukraine?

And Sanlon said, oh, he doesn't care about Ukraine at all.

He cares about it as his own, you know, the Biden stuff, the political stuff that helps him in politics.

Now, Sondlin did not corroborate that story, but that's apparently the testimony from Holmes.

So it's he said, she said

on that.

Right.

And again, the he said is Sondlin, who has gone out of his way in the last couple of days to be critical of Trump and the way he handled this.

It's not like they are allied at some level, but

he did not shy away from taking shots at Trump when he thought they were the right thing to do.

So I don't know.

I mean,

it seems, is it possible he just forgot about this?

He said

the big set here is that Sondlin said, I didn't, I'm not a note-taker.

Don't take notes.

That's not what I do.

Holmes apparently is a note-taker.

So after this meeting, he went back and wrote up a contemporaneous, if you remember that buzzword, contemporaneous memo about what happened at that particular meeting.

Yeah.

So we'll say he's going to testify.

Good, good.

I love those note-takers.

My gosh, don't seem to have any note-takers that are Republican anywhere.

But since Trump has come into office, my gosh, the note-taking of the Democrats is amazing.

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I want to show you one thing.

You're going to hear about how this is all conspiracy.

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It's conspiracy.

And they're going to blame everything on Russia.

Well, I want you to know this is why you can't be binary when it comes to

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Hello, America.

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Yesterday afternoon, I spoke to Rudy Giuliani.

He was on the TV show and

he was America's prosecutor.

He was the guy that I haven't seen in a while.

He's the guy that put the Gambino crime family away.

And I think he was that guy because I know the story.

I know the facts that he knows.

And so he's not trying to shout over somebody or convince them.

And he laid out a very cogent case.

And

I want you to hear some of it because I started with pressing him about Sondlin's testimony.

Quid pro quo.

You're, you know,

saying you're the guy.

Why did you even go

to Ukraine?

What was your assignment there?

Were you running a shadow foreign policy?

All of that.

Cheryl Atkinson.

Is the Glenn Back program?

The rest from the testimony that's happening today,

it's a pack show.

All right, we get right into it in a minute.

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So, yesterday, and we are going to break in if they're saying anything important on Capitol Hill today.

In fact, let's break in.

Can we break in real quick now?

Vice President Patton

after his meeting.

That's enough.

One, I think, actually, interesting thing is we were talking about this last hour.

It's been widely reported that Holmes was a big note-taker.

This is the guy that overheard the call with Ambassador Sondlin

where Trump was kind of screaming into the phone, and he heard it at the table.

And then they talked about this afterwards.

We were told he took notes, apparently did not take notes about that call.

Oh, he's a big note taker.

But did not take notes about that call.

Did not take notes about that call.

He did take notes about a meeting he was at with Zelensky the day after the call with Trump, in which Zelensky apparently said reportedly, according to Holmes, during the meeting, President Zelensky stated during the 25th of July call, President Trump had three times raised some very sensitive issues, and it's a quote, but he would have to follow up on those issues when he and President Trump met in person.

Of course, Holmes had no idea what those sensitive issues were because he was not on the actual call, but that is the only.

Well, I have an update on President Zelensky and that phone call.

I have additional insight about that phone call July 25th on something the president was worried about.

I'm going to show you the president was right.

Zelensky was wrong on that phone call.

I will show you the actual evidence of it tonight at 5 o'clock.

You don't want to miss tonight's show.

It's like a mini special.

It's full of facts tonight that you need to know, especially about the bow tie wearing Kent.

Wait until you find out about that guy.

All right.

Let me go over what happened last night on Blaze TV with me and Rudy Giuliani.

I

talked to him about a lot of stuff, but I wanted to get a few things out at the beginning.

For instance,

the Democrats are saying you're running a shadow foreign policy.

Is that what's happening?

Listen.

The testimony today was that you were communicating with the Ukrainians without anybody's knowledge in the state.

You were running a shadow foreign policy.

So,

I take it by your laugh that that's not true.

No.

I wasn't running a shadow.

What was your mandate?

What did the president ask you to do in Ukraine?

What were you doing?

We got two parts.

Glenn, we have two parts to what I did.

Part one was my investigation as a defense lawyer to gather exculpatory evidence, evidence that would help to make him innocent.

So remember, this began while Moa was still investigating Russian collusion.

November 2018.

It happened to be at a very sensitive time.

They were seeking answers from us on Russian collusion.

Also, Mr.

Weissman, who is a completely out of control, unethical prosecutor, who worked for Mueller, had been questioning Manafort in what I consider to be a horrific manner.

He had him in solitary confinement.

He would take him out every couple of days, and he would say to him, Warren you the link between Trump and the Russians.

And then when he said no, he put him back in solitary confinement.

Basically telling Manafort, if you'd like to, you know, stop being locked up for 23 hours a day, just lie to me.

So I knew they were hot and heavy on this Russian collusion thing, even though I knew 100% it was false.

So when I got this evidence about Ukrainian collusion, in which they mentioned that Joe Biden was involved in developing some of the collusion, I jumped on it.

And I started to find people in Ukraine that were willing to come over and to talk to me about it.

People who told me that they had been blocked from coming here by the American embassy, specifically by the ambassador Iovanovich,

because she and her embassy were involved in collecting the dirty information.

There was

a particular FBI agent named Greenway,

who they said was very involved in collecting not only the dirty information, but fraudulent information on Manafort.

She had since gone to work for George Soros,

which gave it its own interesting flavor.

And she was working at the Anti-Corruption Bureau, was she not?

She was working at what the Anti-Corruption Bureau is a contradiction.

The Anti-Corruption Bureau was set up by George Kent, who was one of the witnesses here.

Yep.

I mean, when I was looking at him, I was like in shock that he's still at the State Department.

But George Kent set up this bureau.

They took all the corruption cases away from the Prosecutor General.

They gave it to the Anti-Corruption Bureau.

And they got rid of all the cases that offended Soros, and they included all the cases against Soros' enemies.

One of the first cases they dismissed was a case in which his NGO, Antac,

was supposed to have embezzled a lot of money, but not only that, collected dirty information on Republicans to be transmitted, gotten by Ukrainians.

to be transmitted to this woman, Alexandra Shalupa,

and other people who worked for the the Democratic National Committee.

Okay, a couple of things that

you learned there.

If you've watched our specials,

you really learned, I think, one new thing.

And that is something that I have said.

I have to talk to Rudy Giuliani to know.

I mean,

I don't understand what he was doing there.

I pressed him about the two bad guys that they're smearing him with.

His answer to me makes sense.

We'll play it in a minute.

But

we've said, in fact, Stu and I talked about this just the other day.

Why wouldn't Trump just make him the head of the State Department?

He wanted it, reportedly.

I mean, that was the big thing.

He wanted to get the job right at the beginning of the administration.

So look at how this has been framed.

This has been framed that Rudy Giuliani was going over

to do something with foreign policy.

He wasn't.

He was going over during the Mueller camp, the Mueller investigation

as the president's personal attorney

to show

he didn't do this.

So he was going over because he knew that the steel dossier was connected to Ukraine.

So he's going over and trying to build a case that, no, none of this stuff in the steel dossier is true.

He wasn't involved with Russia.

And here's how they gathered the information.

It has nothing to do with the State Department.

And

while you may agree or disagree, I'm sure the media would be like, oh, well, I disagree with what he thinks he found in Ukraine.

The bottom line is it's a very understandable role for a personal attorney.

Your job as a personal attorney is to find the best defense possible for your clients.

Correct.

So now that clears things up to where, like, why was he even over there?

What was he doing?

Yeah.

Why didn't they?

He was being the president's personal attorney.

He was building a case against Mueller's case, which ended up being nothing.

But in that journey, he found all these things and was bringing those things to the president as a personal attorney.

That makes 100% sense.

And it also shows

that

the State Department, by saying he's running a shadow

policy,

it shows they need you to believe, They need you to believe that he was over there meddling in State Department affairs and he was just this wild hand grenade.

No,

nope, he wasn't.

Yeah, he might have been a wild hand grenade for you because you were covering additional things up.

But they've spun this to make it seem like, yep, he's the guy.

He's the guy.

He definitely seems to be the target of a lot of the witnesses.

Yes.

especially at the state department who are saying we are very frustrated because you know rudy whatever he's doing it's different than what we're doing and the ukrainians are confused which seems to be their the point they keep coming back and back to which is again you know you can argue that it's a bad idea but you can't argue it's impeachable it's not impeachable conduct okay i'm going to take a quick break because hill is uh dr hill is giving her testimony right now and i think this is important to hear because this will be be the testimony where she is trying to make the

case that Russia was the only one that was interfering in 2016.

And that's everything else Trump is bringing up is just a conspiracy theory.

So we have to take that.

They're getting ready to ask her some questions here.

So we will take a one-minute break and then write to the testimony.

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We break for 10 seconds, then to Capitol Hill.

Shift in his goo-goo, googly eyes.

Jeepers, creepers, where'd you get them, peepers?

Here he is.

He's asking

that they produced during the investigation calls into question the accuracy of the intelligence committee's finding that Russia intervened to help one side, to help Donald Trump at the expense of Hillary Clinton.

No one in the intelligence community questions that finding, nor does the FBI, nor does the Senate bipartisan intelligence committee

report of this committee, the House of Committee on the United States.

It's a separate issue.

They're trying to conflate those issues.

Right.

They're trying to say they're trying to conflate the Trump was involved with Russia to throw the election.

No,

he wasn't.

The Russians did try to throw the election, but

others did as well.

And I know one of those starts with a U and ends in an E and has

Ukraine in the middle of it.

Sorry.

That was a tough one.

Okay, tough one.

That was

tougher in my mouth than it was in my head.

So here she is.

I think that this would resonate with our colleagues on the committee from the Republican Party

is that the goal of the Russians was really to put whoever became the president by trying to tip their hands on one side of the scale under a cloud.

So if Secretary, former First Lady, former Senator Clinton had been elected as President, as indeed many expected in the run-up to the election

in 2016,

she too would have had major questions about her legitimacy.

And I think that what we're seeing here as a result of all of these narratives is this is exactly what the Russian government was hoping for.

If they seed misinformation, they seed doubt, they have everybody questioning the legitimacy of a presidential candidate, be it President Trump or the Spanish.

Please flip this because I need this later in the show today, because I'm going to tell you what's coming next.

strong point at the very beginning.

All right, go ahead.

Because there were certainly individuals in many other countries who had harsh words for both of the candidates, who had harsh words for many other candidates during the primaries.

We had a lot of people who were running for president on the Republican side.

There were many people who were trying themselves to game the outcome.

Yes, yes.

As you know, in the United Kingdom, the bookies take bets.

You can go to Ladbrooks or William Hill and lay a bet on who you think is going to be the candidate.

So the Russian government were trying to lay in their own bets.

And what they wanted to do was give a spread.

They wanted to make sure that whoever they had bet on, whoever they tried to tip the scales, would also experience some discomfort, that they would beholden to them in some way, that they would create just the kind of chaos that we have seen in our politics.

So, I just want to again emphasize that we need to be very careful as we discuss all of these issues not to give them more fodder that they can use against us in 2020.

And I quite agree.

There's an additional benefit, and I think you're absolutely right.

The Russians are equal opportunity meddlers.

They will not only help one side, but they'll also just seek to sow discord in the United States.

Say it, Adam.

You can't even say it.

They'll help one side, and then they'll

sow discord.

No, they'll also help the other side.

They don't care.

They want chaos.

They're not going to be able to bring it all in our election and blame it on a U.S.

ally as a way of driving a wedge between the U.S.

and Ukraine.

Isn't that true?

Well, that's absolutely the case.

And in fact, you just made the point about US allies.

The Russians like to put a lot of blame on US allies for incidents that they have perpetrated.

We saw that recently with the United Kingdom in the Russian Secret Services attack on a former spy, Mr.

Skripal, and his daughter in Salisbury in England.

Where you may recall

that the Russians actually accused

perpetrating this themselves.

And I don't have duct tape on my head.

So the pieces will be all over probably part of you.

Yeah, and I apologise in advance.

Before my head explodes.

How interest in putting Ukraine and Ukraine.

How is this happening in America

when

documents have been deeply when we have videotaped, when we have them in their own emails admitting to the when we have a court case in Ukraine where they convicted two people of this

position that Russia is in the middle of the country?

What country do you think this is?

I mean this is the used to be America.

I don't.

This is America right now.

You want to talk about

what do the Russians want to do?

So discord.

Right.

So discord.

And have us lose faith in our institutions.

Do you have any faith in our institutions?

I don't even have faith in the Republicans on this.

Where the hell are the Republicans on this?

People,

you know, I was obviously at your deposition, I've read your opening testimony, but as you learn more facts, you start to see things in a different light.

Even though your opening statement is very much consistent with your opening statement during the deposition,

I'm struck in front of you.

The guy who says something is: You're not allowed to call any of these people into question.

You're not allowed to talk about any of these things.

He then says, you know, when you hear, you know,

a lot of evidence and you start to hear more and more, it starts to change your mind.

So he knows exactly what additional testimony does.

It has you look at things maybe a little differently

while he's shutting down anyone listening to new evidence.

Here we are,

and we are urging Ukrainians to commit to following the rule of law, as you said, and only investigate genuine and credible allegations.

And what are we doing?

We're asking them to investigate the president's political rival.

Ukrainians are pretty sophisticated actors, aren't they?

They can recognize hypocrisy when they see it.

What does that do to our anti-corruption?

The prosecutors.

Ability to prosecute cases away when the State Department, with George Soros, set up an anti-corruption bureau

that can actually pursue credible allegations.

That's our policy.

We've been doing that for quite some time with some success.

So focusing on particular cases, including particular cases where there is a interest of the presidents,

it's just not part of what we've done.

Okay, so may I ask another question?

Follow up.

Follow up.

You know, was it a case that should have been done?

Because it was filed four weeks before

Joe Biden came into town.

Oh,

and they just reopened that case on Burisma.

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If you missed, by the way, America, I just, I'm for the first time in my career, I have to tell you something.

I can't take the impeachment hearings anymore today.

I can't.

It's not good for me.

It's, I mean, it's just, my head will explode.

And it's, what that is, is nothing but disinformation.

I refuse to carry it because it is,

you know, you're talking about the Russians.

This is American disinformation, and I won't carry it.

I can't do it without correcting every sentence they have because the facts are out.

There's too much in your head about this story to even break this down.

Well, we can go through the important parts of it.

I mean, just to hear them run their mouths.

No, I'm not going to do it.

You're not going to do it.

Tonight's show.

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Tonight's show, almost every show we're doing now on TV because I'm doing the best work of my career.

And we are on this.

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I want to tell you what we did last night.

This is available on YouTube.

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We ran out of time, so I had to shoot some extra things, and that's on the Blaze behind the paywall.

But I'm going to take you through some of it.

Here's what Rudy Giuliani said to me yesterday when we were talking about Russian collusion.

Listen to this.

In November of 2018,

this is before Biden was running for president.

It's while Mueller was still investigating.

A former colleague of mine called me with information.

The information was...

Just to shorten it a bit, that you won't believe it, there's a lot of

so-called collusion that went went on in Ukraine, not in Russia.

That what they say was going on in Russia looks like it was really going on in Ukraine.

It included not just a server issue and the hiding of the server.

It included specific information that was developed by the Ukrainians, that was turned over to the Democratic National Committee,

and that was used to try to stop Trump from getting elected, used in mid-2016.

It also included

very strong evidence that a lot of the steel dossier

was produced in

Ukraine, in Kiev,

and also things I didn't know, like Glenn Simpson spent a fair amount of time there during the time that the dossier was being written,

and that the

document that reopened the Manafort investigation went through the Glenn Simpson company, and that there were real questions about whether it wasn't a fraud,

and also no question at all that it had been improperly used and leaked to the press in May of 2016, so the New York Times could write a story basically saying Trump has crooked campaign manager.

Correct.

So when I got all that evidence as a defense lawyer, I said to myself, hallelujah.

I now have what a defense lawyer always wants.

I can go prove somebody else committed this crime.

Okay, I want to take you to the section where I asked him about the whistleblower.

He didn't play along with me, but

as I asked him a follow-up question,

it's important that you hear his response.

Listen, do you know the name of the whistleblower?

And if it's Eric Caramella, just cough.

I won't say if I do or I don't know the name of the whistleblower.

I don't know all the facts that I would like to know about the whistleblower, but what I do know is I no longer call him a whistleblower.

When I write op-ed pieces or give lectures or talks on this, I refer to him as the anonymous informant.

Well, he is, if it is the guy, Eric Caramella, who we think it is, his fingerprints are all over a deep state.

The throwing of the election,

the stopping of

prosecution.

I mean, he's in the middle of almost all of this stuff.

So if Eric Carmella is not the whistleblower, are you aware of Eric Caramella's role?

I don't know if I can comment on this.

Okay, I think

I don't know if

responsibly I can comment on this part of it.

I can tell you, without being able to back this part up with facts right now, that I am entirely convinced that this whole episode is just, you know,

one chapter in at least a three or four chapter plan,

which I guess was best described by Strzok to prevent him from being president.

And then, should he become president, the insurance policy to remove him.

And this, this Ukrainian stage also had a pre-election stage yes because the the black ledger against manafort listen to this which turns out to be a fraud well wait hang on before

you say delivered to the new york times to hurt him during the election

this is really important that true yes the black ledger is a fraud okay so you you're ready for this one uh in fact

I think he, I think, play this cut.

I think it explains it in this cut.

Go ahead.

The FBI had a case that was two years old on Manafort.

Went back to 2014.

The FBI had dismissed the case.

This rogue FBI agent, Greenaway, who's now working for Soros, wanted to reopen it.

In order to reopen it, they needed newly discovered evidence.

And

when this meeting took place in January of 2016 at the NSC, what the Obama people were asking the Ukrainians to do is to go get us bad information on Manafort so we can reopen the investigation.

And lo and behold,

this black ledger shows up on the doorstep of a parliamentarian who then brings it to the prosecutor, but also doesn't forget to bring it to the New York Times first.

And that's what they got convicted for in Ukraine, those two people, right?

Weren't they involved in leaking the black ledger?

Okay, so here's

this is amazing.

And we haven't revealed this yet on the chalkboard.

It's a fact we found out about a week ago or two weeks ago,

and we were going to include it on a Soros section.

So, the Anti-Corruption Bureau, this is something that they're all like, we got to talk about corruption.

They're pursuing cases that had nothing to do with anything.

This is a Soros Obama plan,

and it's very well documented.

We have all of it.

The State Department, the Obama administration, and George Soros worked together to form this anti-corruption bureau.

It was a shadow prosecutor's office, and they would decide what's worth pursuing and what's not.

Now, if you're doing criminal activity or you want investigations on people, it's good to have your own little

shadow justice department, isn't it?

So they have this anti-corruption thing.

The new name that you heard was Greenaway.

She is an FBI agent that was assigned to this anti-corruption bureau.

So she was going over to help teach them all about corruption and how to look into cases.

She went over there.

She was working there with the Ukrainians.

She's the one that went and helped gather the information.

on

the ledger along with the guy who is the head of the anti-corruption bureau.

All right.

So she has the connection back to the DOJ and says, we have information that he has not paid taxes on all of this money, and we could open a case on him if we could get any kind of evidence

on taxes.

Okay.

Because there was already an old case that had been dismissed, but they could reopen it if there was any new evidence.

Right.

And they screwed up the the first one.

So they had the evidence they felt to convict him.

They just needed a reason to reopen it.

So she tells Sitnik, the guy who's the head of the Anti-Corruption Bureau, he goes and he finds information in this black ledger.

The black ledger is then dropped off at the New York Times and given to the Justice Department and the FBI.

Now, so you know, Greenaway has since left and she works for the George Soros organization.

The guy who

discovered the black ledger and then dropped it off went to court and was convicted of interfering in a U.S.

election because of the black ledger.

All right?

He gave the black ledger to the justice and to the New York Times with the intent of discrediting Donald Trump.

The Ukrainian DNC reason for that was to discredit Donald Trump.

Look, he's working with crazy people who love Russia.

Okay, they're corrupt.

That was their intent.

The FBI agent said we can open up a case and nail him.

When they went to court, you didn't hear any of this.

The prosecution didn't use a single word from the Black Ledger.

Not one word.

It wasn't credible.

They got him on income tax evasion on an old case that they had already had of $12 million.

That case had already been dismissed.

They blew it.

They needed something to reopen it.

The Black Ledger reopened it.

When they got to trial, they threw the Black Ledger out because it was not true, or at least so sketchy.

That they couldn't they didn't want to use it because they thought it could be picked apart by the defense

and then the whole case would be thrown out.

I feel like I'm like jumping into like Godfather 3 and I don't understand any of the characters.

It's like there's just so much crap going on.

You know, there's so many different people.

But which direction is it going?

To hurt the president's case or to help the president's case?

Which direction is it going?

If you listen to them, they keep focusing on like, I was at the table.

I heard it.

I heard that phone call.

Well, I don't think that's what happened, but he's a great note-taker.

Okay, well, I didn't take any notes, but I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

They're focusing on this little stuff.

We're talking about the throwing of an election and our government paying for it, our State Department involved in revolution.

In Ukraine, that we are the ones that trained all the people for the Maidan revolution.

Now, you can agree and say, well, that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Doesn't matter.

Is that what you want your government doing?

Training these people to do revolution?

Because it's happening all over the world.

And we have the evidence of it.

I think there's a fundamental issue here, which is

the...

The argument you're making is that we should be looking into these things because they're important for America in a big-time way.

And that is the media is not making that argument.

They're making the argument of

Trump.

It's about Trump.

And if your point does not relate to Trump,

it's a conspiracy theory.

It's a conspiracy theory.

It doesn't matter.

It's not part of this.

And so, you know, the idea that

you can even argue, I mean, it wouldn't even be the worst thing in the world at this point, especially from the media, for them to say, you know what, we think Donald Trump did these bad things, but we also think Joe Biden did these bad things.

And we also think.

In the real world, that's exactly what would happen.

If this were fair, you would say, well, the first thing we have to find out is, did the president do these things?

Did Joe Biden and his son do these things?

Was there another country besides Russia that was trying to throw our election?

And was the other side

looking into

using and colluding with Ukraine?

That's what would happen in a sane world, but we're not in a sane world.

And, you know, Franklin said, I gave you a republic.

We gave you a republic if you can keep it.

The only way you keep it is if you're well-informed.

Too many lazy people aren't willing to even watch a special

to figure it out.

We've done all the work.

You just have to watch it.

Don't be lazy.

Many people have.

Oh, no, I mean, no, no, no.

I don't mean our.

I don't, right?

I don't mean our audience.

You mean the media and the

media and

three-quarters of this country.

They just want it spoon-fed to them.

Stop it.

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She has written a story that came out, CherylAtkinson.com, this week.

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State Department witnesses are the ones who conducted shadow diplomacy, and she's absolutely right.

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She's up next.

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For 30 years, Cheryl Atkinson was a

correspondent and an anchor at CBS News, PBS, CNN.

I mean,

boy, and then they found out she wasn't crazy progressive.

She was actually looking for the truth no matter where the chips fell.

Yeah,

so they had to run her out on a rail.

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Now, she also has

her own show with Sinclair called Full Measure, and she

actually looks for the truth.

Cheryl Atkinson, how are you?

I am terrific.

Thank you.

How are you?

I'm very good.

I'm interested

in hearing your theory and what you found

with the State Department in shadow diplomacy.

Well, let me just say that I typically, without trying to be sort of a contrarian, I see something entirely different than what I think even some of the Republicans see when I listen to these hearings, and it is sort of the last gasp of the persistent bureaucracy within the State Department

speaking against a president who came in and did exactly what he said he was going to do.

Yes.

Change business as usual, take charge.

They didn't like it.

And I would go so far as to say there have been some key admissions by our diplomats that they took actions contrary to what they understood the president's foreign policy desires were, which I believe is extra-constitutional and perhaps worse.

But

they seem to think, we've now heard it stated explicitly, they think the bureaucrats they run the show and the president works for them.

And they're out of their mind when he didn't see things the way they wanted him to see them.

Well, they have a lot.

The State Department has a lot invested in Ukraine and

a policy called Civil Society 2.0 that was designed by Hillary Clinton when she was at the State Department, Barack Obama,

and

some other figures that

usually only belong in conspiracy theories like George Soros.

And they have set this course up as a matter of policy.

And they spoke about it at the time, Cheryl,

with people who were in the room helping design it, that they needed it to be institutionalized.

So it wouldn't matter what presidents would do when they came and went.

That's not what the State Department is supposed to do.

The State Department works for the President, not for themselves, unelected officials.

And I think that's one of the revelations.

This is them explicitly saying otherwise.

And I would also point out, I looked at the disclosures the other day for the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

This is where foreign countries disclose the lobbying, the foreign agents they're hiring here in the U.S.

to lobby for their interests.

Most countries have in this congressional summary, maybe a page of people they've hired

to do certain things.

Ukraine is by far the biggest.

It has pages and pages of people it's hired in the last few years to lobby journalists and members of Congress to make contributions, all kinds of things.

And I don't think that's any coincidence that everybody is advocating.

It looks to me like these State Department officials, it sounds to me like they're advocating for Ukraine and trying to change the president's mind rather than the other way around.

Right.

I mean,

here's the thing that is lost on me, why people can't connect here.

Quid pro quo is a way of life.

I mean,

it's commerce, it's free market, it's our marriage, everything is quid pro quo.

You cheat on me, and I'm probably not going to hang around.

I might add that it's controversial when there is not a precondition for foreign aid or a white

controversial at times if there haven't been conditions set.

That's expected to have conditions set.

Why would we just give money away, especially to a country that all sides, even Ukrainians say corrupt as hell?

Why wouldn't we have conditions on that money?

And something new has arisen arisen the last day and a half, at least in my mind.

There is such an effort by these diplomats to make sure no one would commit in Ukraine to a corruption investigation or look into election meddling in 2016.

Why?

What is the harm?

I mean, they may be right.

They may be wrong that there wasn't any.

There's good evidence that there was some.

Left-leading Politico concluded there was based on first-hand interviews.

But let's just say there isn't.

There wasn't any.

What's the harm of having the investigation that would show that?

Why are they so hell-bent on keeping the president of Ukraine from committing to any investigation into corruption or 2016 or barisma?

I think it's strange.

Cheryl, I would love to have your brain around this.

May I send you a box of documents from the State Department,

from the court system in Ukraine, along with videotape of what we have on officials admitting to these things?

Because the facts facts are all there.

No one is willing to go there.

And it is, if this becomes just about Donald Trump, my opinion, Cheryl, on this whole thing is: if Donald Trump was doing something wrong, illegal, then he should pay the price.

If the Democrats were doing something wrong or legal, they should pay the price.

But we need to overturn every stone because our republic is at stake.

Just like with Russia, if Donald Trump was colluding with Russia, he should have been impeached.

I don't care who's right or wrong.

I want to know the truth.

Well, and I'm concerned that the persistent bureaucracy has been quite effective in punishing anybody around President Trump so far that has gone off script of what they want to happen.

And if they're able to make it where a president can't institute foreign policy, can't call for investigations into corruption, can't condition aid.

I mean, we've then given up any notion that the Constitution that says the president determines foreign policy is at play.

We've basically then said, no, today the bureaucracy decides these things.

The president just has to go along with them.

Cheryl, can I tell you something that President Bush told me in the Oval Office?

I was there the day that Barack Obama, who was then trailing Hillary Clinton,

he said that, you know, if I had charge,

I would send our jets.

I don't care about their airspace.

If

I want to find the bad guys and they're in Afghanistan, I'll just send the jets over.

And this is at the time where we kind of thought that maybe Afghanistan was kind of an ally.

And I said, Mr.

President, I mean, can we do that?

It's an ally.

What would that mean?

And he looked at me and he tried to comfort me, and it spooked the hell out of me.

He said, Clenn, don't worry.

I don't care who sits in this chair.

When they do, they will be advised by exactly the same people.

They'll see the same facts, and they'll realize the president's hands are pretty tied.

It's just going to stay the same.

Well, can you imagine being an outsider like Trump who comes in to change that, who understands that and thinks it's harmful to the nation?

Right.

Or your Jeff Sessions, and I have good authority that says he whispered in his own office when he met with certain people because other people were listening who worked for him he didn't trust.

And you want to do things, but nobody around you supports it.

How are you going to implement anything?

This is what I think, you know, term limits are so important, but I think service limits are important.

These institutions, if you've been there and you've seen five presidents come and go, what do you care what the president said?

I've outlasted all of you guys.

And the arrogance grows.

And the

programs, again, again,

please, I'll send you the information.

Look up Civil Society 2.0 and what they were really doing and what they still are doing in Chile.

They

institutionalized this so it just runs under the radar.

And the president may or may not even know it.

But that is truly what they're covering here.

And every single one of these

people that have been testifying, they're all involved in it.

I mean, like deeply.

I have emails that through FOIA requests that have come from them.

And I have the money.

I have the State Department connections.

We have all of it.

It's not a hidden secret.

It's just that no one will look into it in the press.

And I think that's because they've made it about Trump.

And I think I did an interview with an author named Thomas Cranowitter.

He wrote a book called Save the Swamp.

And he touches upon what you're saying, but he goes back historically and says this was designed, the swamp as we know it.

By design was thought that there will be bureaucrats, the permanent government, they called themselves, that despite what the elections found, and we'd be distracted by the elections, the permanent government would be the ones running the show.

And I think it's exactly what we're seeing today.

It really grew out of Woodrow Wilson's frustration with the League of Nations.

He just knew that was right.

And so we just have to get this done.

And between him and FDR, it just grew into

this hydra that now is, I think, beyond most people's comprehension because they don't hear about it ever by design.

According to, I just looked up a quick quote from this book, and Cranoita, the author, said, early social scientists sketching out the plan of what an administrative state would look like often used the phrase permanent government and said, we'll still have elections, and they're useful because they distract citizens.

But what's going to happen is we will be the Leviathan of a permanent government in no way affected by the results of the election.

And that's exactly where we are.

I've been doing my research on this Ukraine thing for about a year, and

what we started to find about a year ago was disturbing.

And the more we look into it, and it's truly terrifying.

If the Senate doesn't pick this up and expose what's going on, if they make this just about Donald Trump,

all of this stuff is just a show.

It's just a show, and nothing's going to really change.

The Senate, in the midst of all this, in 2015 or 2016, started a Ukrainian caucus.

That's not a coincidence.

I'm sure that was a result of lobbying and contributions.

And I think a lot of them, I'm talking about Republicans, are tied up in this, in the Ukrainian interest in a way we don't understand.

And they are not doing much to counter this false narrative that there was no Ukrainian interference in the election.

They're kind of sitting silently by, with maybe a couple of exceptions.

They're not holding hearings they could hold.

They're not counterpointing some of these things that are not true.

So I'm not really confident they're going to do a strong and great job if you're looking at them for a counterpoint.

Cheryl, may I have off-air, may I have one of my researchers send you

a bunch of raw information and we can give you the outline on it.

But I would love for you to see these documents because you are absolutely right.

And I think we have proven the case beyond a reasonable doubt with official documents.

But there's so much more work to be done on it, and it has to be exposed.

May I reach out to you after the show?

Yes, of course.

I'd love to look at it.

Cheryl, thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

God bless.

You bet.

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What is it really all about, Rudy?

This is cut six.

What is it really all about?

What this is really, I think, all about, and that is

training people up, enriching themselves, flipping countries one by one.

And we have them on videotape talking about it doing it in Ukraine we have all of the documents it's really not hard to prove we have a release document from that was

leaked out from George Soros himself outlining the plan and the money is going from the State Department to George Soros and it is

I think it's really nefarious and evil but let's just say you're in the State

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Isn't this what Donald Trump perhaps unexpectedly stumbled onto with you?

That

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I don't realize it.

You're right.

Right.

Glenn, you're right on target.

I will tell you one quotation I have from the Ukrainian witness.

He said to me, and this is, you know, after Trump was in office for a year and a half, two years, and I'm trying to get a visa for one of the witnesses.

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It is so.

They're all Soros people.

When you see that guy, Taylor, that guy Taylor testifying, Ambassador Taylor, great military record, whatever, whatever, whatever.

His embassy is the embassy that's holding up the visas for four or five people that could come here and blow up ships completely fraudulent investigation.

So, Rudy, knowing what I know, not.

I don't think that Schiff

wasn't screwing around in the U.S.

Correct.

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Is our hope that this will go to the Senate and the Senate will expose all of this?

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Now, I want to get to Rudy's Hope, but

again, we're going to talk about Rudy Giuliani again, as if he's a base figure in this country.

The impeachment hearings.

Is that where you're going?

I've noticed that.

It revolved around him yesterday.

I just thought I'd point it out.

You keep avoiding the big story of the day.

And the big story is...

Wayne Messum has dropped out of the presidential race for the Democrats.

Wayne Messum is out.

Now, this is.

I thought Wayne Messum was like a.

Wasn't that the actor's name from like Will and Grace?

I thought it was her name.

I don't know who he is.

Deborah Messing?

Is that what you're trying to say?

That's it.

Deborah Messing.

And

she would be a more likely candidate than

Wayne Messum.

Messum Mania.

Ever hear of it?

Nope.

Well,

apparently the Democrats wanted to shut that one down

because here's a guy who was clearly going to win.

Yeah.

He's a Democrat.

He's a Democrat.

Stop trying to.

I know.

I'm pretending I don't know.

I could tell.

I could tell.

So is America.

Here's a guy who was absolutely going to win this race.

He was just, you know, he was like a, he was stalking the field and waiting for his moment to pounce.

So he's like Betto.

No, Betto.

Now look.

I'm sorry.

You're making.

Please, I don't want to.

I really want to get to Rudy Giuliani.

I don't mean to drag this out.

Okay.

So Betto goes goes up to like 14% and then slowly fades away.

Wayne never had that.

He was waiting.

He didn't want to have this big rise and fall.

He was waiting for the right moment.

He's stuck at 0%.

I'm not going to

be able to soon.

Right, exactly.

So he didn't even peak at 1%.

He just stayed at 0 and waited and waited for his time.

And the Democrats pushed him out.

My guess is because of the fundraising stuff.

They're like, well, this guy's bringing in too much of our money from other donors.

How much money?

Last quarter, Glenn, he raised $5.

Holy cow.

Now, I don't mean $5,000 or $5 million, but he raised legitimately one $5 bill.

Yeah.

Who is he?

Seriously.

Who is waiting?

Okay.

He's the mayor of Miramar, Florida, and was a very.

Miramar.

You know what's one interesting thing about Miramar?

Bigger population than Pete Buttigieg's town.

Really?

Yes.

Because I've never heard of Miramar, Florida.

Really?

Well, now you have.

I have.

Well, good news, Miramar, you get your mayor back.

Yes, he'll be there.

Even though it was hard to campaign with the Fiverr.

All right, so

that's sad.

He was present.

That was really sad.

He was in Miramar a lot of the time.

Okay, so let me talk about Rudy Giuliani.

The last thing I asked him, and you can find this at blazetv.com slash Glenn,

the exclusive part of the Rudy Giuliani

interview that I did yesterday

is found there.

This is one of the last things I asked him.

I said,

so

this has to be exposed.

Are we hoping that it will go to the Senate and they'll expose it?

Listen.

Well, what I'm hoping for is that one of our brave senators starts a hearing and calls all those Ukrainian witnesses.

Let them get up there and testify.

So why haven't they?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, that's one of the frustrations that I have between our party and their party.

Why?

They seem so better organized.

to do cheap, horrible, and terrible things.

And all I'm asking our party to do is to do something valid.

Go prove just how big

the corruption in Ukraine was that had a bearing on our election in 2016.

They spent 40 million chasing a false claim.

I know.

I'm willing to guarantee them

they are going to prove the truth.

And probably for the price of a few airline tickets, because

we have the documents.

We have the documents.

And could there be more?

Yeah.

But once that floodgate is open,

I'm telling you, it's corrupt to the core.

We need to find a Republican will do this.

I don't know why Mike Lee wouldn't do this.

Ted Cruz, where are you, buddy?

Where are you?

Where are the Republicans that will take this on and have a hearing?

And we're seeing more and more break about it.

A story today

just about the Biden part of this, where Hunter Biden.

Fresh off, a brand new child in the family.

Congratulations to Hunter Biden.

Well, it's not his.

Definitely not his.

It's not his until they did a parental test, and then they found out the DNA matched, and then now he has to take responsibility for the kids.

It's a fraudulent

DNA test conspiracy theory.

Yeah, and the good thing is, though, came out on Joe Biden's birthday.

Oh, that's weird.

So, what a better birthday present than a new grandson.

Yeah,

perfect.

Except for the grandson that you were fighting against.

Well, sure.

So, this is a news story about one of the bailouts that happened around 2009.

And it was one of those things, Bernie Sanders pushed hard against it.

He said, This is only going to go to the wealthy entitled Project.

No, but that's not true because Joe Biden, remember, Joe Biden, when that bailout money came, Joe Biden was the point man.

He was the point man.

He was the guy to make sure there's nobody better to make sure that no funny business went on than Joe Biden.

So Joe was on this.

He was.

He was all over it.

But in fact, I believe he might have really been all over it.

Really?

I got to say, on this one, I think Joe Biden was all over it.

it.

Really?

Because it seems like new reporting today that $130 million of that money

went to Hunter Biden's firm.

And shockingly, it was routed, I'm sure, by an error, through the Cayman Islands and another subsidiary.

But

it did eventually get to the Hunter Biden firm.

Now, no one sets up a subsidiary in the Cayman Islands.

Well, except for the fact when you just happen to be passing through on a visit.

It's like, I'm just going to the Caymans and I'm going to hang out there and I needed a bank account.

I needed a new company.

So I

sometimes the ATM could be down and I could be down there now.

I need to, I don't know, I don't know, stop in a store and buy a brand, you know, a Picasso.

Right.

And so I might need $130 million.

Sometimes you do.

Sometimes you do.

And you want to have that ability to get it.

And that's why Joe was there to make sure that legitimate taxpayer money went to a legitimate source like his son's company.

It's only nine figures, though.

It could have been 10.

Could have been 12.

Right.

Now, here's the thing.

Does Bernie know about this?

Because Bernie was on this particular

grant.

He actually

fought against this whole program saying that he thought he was afraid it might go to people who were entitled and elite.

Connected.

Hmm.

Seems like he might have been right on that one.

We should get that information to him because I bet he'll be all over that now.

Because

surely he will.

I mean, you'd think he would, right?

He's in a fight against this guy.

He's losing.

Nope.

He's in third or fourth place in every poll.

They're all in it.

Nope.

They all are beholden to it.

But look,

when you have a lot of new children you need to tend to,

you're going to need funds to tend to them.

And now he has to pay child support.

Do you have kids that you didn't know about?

Oh, my gosh, spread all over the world.

Well, then.

Then you should try the Hunter Biden work ethic.

Just to get if I can.

Look, I don't have kids all over the world.

I don't have kids that are going to pop up in my life and they're like, oh, this is your dad.

I'm legitimately going to go, I'm pretty sure I'm not.

Now, Hunter,

he really didn't think that he was the father because he's a straight-up guy.

I mean, he's definitely not a straight-up guy.

If you've ever read his personal history, it's

no,

he doesn't have a drinking problem, drug problems.

Oh, he does.

He does.

Crime problems.

He's admitted.

He's been a rehab about seven times.

Any of those things.

And so he was very clear.

When you have the sobriety of Hunter Biden, you know,

you know, I'm in a committed relationship here.

And we love each other, and I'm going to know if that's my child.

How happy are you, Glenn, as a man who went through battles with alcohol and drugs?

How happy are you now that you didn't have any game back then?

Because who knows what you might have gotten into.

Really happy.

I am really happy.

Luckily,

I say this all the time.

It's going to come as a surprise to a lot of chicks in the audience.

Yes.

But chicks don't dig me.

No.

They don't.

Not interested.

Never have.

Yeah.

Never have.

And I don't understand that.

I mean,

it's like a.

I have all of the qualities of a gay man,

except for the icky sex part.

Well, and the physique.

The physique doesn't,

you know.

Yeah, but that's a hasty generalization.

Right.

You know, you can't say all gay men are really, you know,

fit.

That's true.

That's true.

And look, you have a sexual preference.

Unfortunately for women, it's women.

Right.

I'm a lesbian.

I will only sleep with women.

Okay.

That's good.

So I have all the traits of a gay man, which all women are supposed to love.

They always

hear.

The good ones are all gone or gay.

I've seen it in like 9,000 romantic comedies, so it must be true.

Got to be true.

Well, I have all those qualities.

My wife can barely stand me at this point.

She's like, oh, dear God, do I

can we not sleep?

So, you know, we were like,

I think I'm just about the point to where she

I got to stop her from watching old movies and TV shows because she might see like

Ricky and Lucy and she'll be like, can we get those beds?

The separate beds.

That's a lot more space.

Yeah.

Can we get those?

Because they're so small, there's nothing that could happen on that bed either.

Honey, why is there a cubicle wall between our beds?

Okay, anyway,

let me talk to you about something sincere.

This next week

is Thanksgiving.

We are now preparing for the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims landing.

I showed Stu today, I was up and I was with David Barton and he always teaches me something new.

He's like,

have you ever seen the quarter or the half dollar?

Which is this?

Yeah, it's a half dollar.

Have you ever seen the 50 cent piece from 1920, 21?

And I'm like, no, David, I haven't.

And he's like, it has the Pilgrim.

It has the

Pilgrim on the front and the Mayflower on the back.

Like, shut up.

I've never seen that.

He said, yeah.

So it was made for the 300th anniversary.

The 1820, there was a big celebration.

The 1720, 100-year anniversary, they didn't celebrate, but it got kind of weird because up in Massachusetts, they were like, oh, thou shalt not celebrate.

And, you know, and 1620, when they arrived, they were pretty happy.

There was a little celebration there.

No dancing, but there was a little celebration.

This was like Footloose times.

Right.

Yeah.

That's exactly right.

Kevin Bacon was there.

Anyway, nobody even knows about it.

Nobody even knows about it.

And that's the problem with our country:

our history has been stolen from us.

We are not remembering who we are.

I want you to talk to your family

this week, this coming week, when you're all together.

And I want you to talk to them about

the

real meaning of Thanksgiving.

In fact, let me give you

a web address.

It's 400th.org.

400th.org.

400th.org.

That has all of the things that you need for your table to talk about Thanksgiving and what the pilgrims actually did and what really happened and what America really means.

And I want you to share that with your family.

And then I want you to ask them,

What do we want to do on 4th of July?

Now, I have been a guy, I was Mr.

4th of July for a long time.

Oh, yeah.

And I don't like the 4th of July anymore because it's all about James Brown living in the U.S.

What is that?

Living in America.

Or living in America.

Born in the USA, which is not

living in America is at least a more positive

country.

Born in the USA is not positive.

Okay, and that's all it is.

It's about fireworks.

I think it is about fireworks, and I think fireworks could be done very good.

I think there could be a 4th of July celebration that would be unfrickin' believable if it was done by somebody who wanted to really tell the story of America.

Anyway, different story, I'm sure, unrelated to this.

Could you ask them to save the date?

Now, it's not going to happen.

in Plymouth, but the weekend before, I'm going to be in Plymouth.

And

you could go and join me in Plymouth for a big celebration there.

So save the date of July 3rd, 4th, and 5th.

The 4th of July is on a Saturday, 3rd, 4th, and 5th.

And if you'd like to spend the week doing some really cool stuff that we'll tell you about, you might want to save from June 27th, which is that Saturday before all the way to July 5th.

Now, we're not getting out in front of the plenary on this, are you?

While you're talking about it on the air before it's been announced, you're just no, this is just you're amusing

that there's certain days they should just not plan other things, right?

Okay, don't plan anything at that time.

That's not a good time to plan because there might be something else you might want to do.

You're right, but we don't know what it is.

There might not be anything, might not be anything,

anything.

So, just save the date.

All right, back in just a second.

You excited for Thanksgiving?

Oh, yeah.

Are you?

Are you thankful that you're going to be with your family?

I am.

Yeah.

Yeah, me too, because I don't, I, I, all the family members that I like are all going to be there.

All the family members that you like are going to be there.

Yeah.

And

that like me.

More importantly, that like me too.

So there's some of those.

I'm spending it alone.

But

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And that's what we started this movement on the college campus is to fundamentally change the culture.

No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger other than in self-defense, and that's rarely ever occurs.

And so we have to just change the culture, period, and keep punching at it and punching at it and punching at it.

No, tell me.

I'm so torn.

I so want him to be president just for this.

I mean, at least the nominee.

We got to stop domestic violence, and we just got to keep punching at it.

Oh my gosh, this is too good.

By the way, I ran out of time today, so

I want to spend the time to tell you what's next.

What's the next step from the impeachment hearings?

What's going to happen next year?

What's going to happen after Trump is re-elected?

I'll tell you tomorrow's broadcast and Bill O'Reilly.

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