So Many Democrats Sending Their Kids to Ukraine | Guests: John Solomon, Peter Schweizer, & Rudy Atallah | 10/10/19
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Just getting started.
A big show today.
A lot going on, as usual.
Really, some terrifying things.
What do you think?
What's terrifying?
I don't know.
It just seems like there is a corner of the world that's currently getting wiped off the map.
Well, that shows what Stu knows.
A corner of the world.
Everybody knows
we're
a big flat disc with no corners.
That's true.
I guess it is in the middle, too.
We call it the Middle East.
So
it's in the middle of the world.
Well, not really, because everybody knows we're a sphere.
Potentially some inconsistency in the last few minutes.
All right.
Welcome to the program.
Also, we have to talk about, I'd like to talk about this NBC thing that is going on.
Reason has a really good reason
on why we are going.
No, the Federalist of why we went in to or abandon the Kurds, if you will.
Really good.
If that's what Trump was doing, that's really good, I think.
Have you read that article yet?
I don't think I have.
I've yet to see a really good reason why we've done it.
I think this was a really good one.
Cool.
That would be promising.
Yeah, more on China and some
significant updates on the China thing.
I'm sorry, on the Ukraine thing.
And John Solomon joins us today.
Nice.
So he's one of the lead investigators on this.
We'll have more coming up in just a few.
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Ah, hello and welcome.
There's kind of a nasty little thing going around about Joe Biden.
Joe Biden yesterday, for some reason, has decided now to endorse the impeachment.
Now, why hasn't he endorsed the impeachment earlier?
Any ideas to why hasn't he really fully endorsed that?
I think he's tried to maintain his position as the,
you know, not Elizabeth Warren, right?
He's he's trying to play it in a different lane he's trying to appeal to voters who might be in the middle and remember it has not polled well until very recently so it's been an unpopular issue for Democrats until the last basically the last week so you think that maybe he's just watching the polls I think potentially the campaign is reacting to the realities on the ground yes there's another possible reason
We're having some documents translated.
Hopefully they'll be translated by the end of the show.
we're anxious to see what they have to reveal
some say they are proof that uh
burisma was paying joe biden
now that would be a problem
of course it's a conspiracy theory we begin there in one minute
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Ukrainian MP
Andrey Durkov
revealed yesterday that former Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 from the Burisma Group for lobbying activities, citing materials related to an investigation.
Now, before you get excited, I want you to know
that
we have not personally translated the documents.
There are several documents.
We have only one of them, and it's all in Ukrainian.
We are having it translated during the show today,
which is our first opportunity to have it translated.
I am reporting on someone else's information.
We have not confirmed this yet.
This is
Ukraine's Verkonova Rada member
who is citing the investigation materials.
He has publicized the documents, which he said describe the mechanism of getting money to Biden Sr.
at a press conference at InterFact Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
This was the transfer of Barisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe personally, to Joe Biden through a lobbying company.
Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to a U.S.-based
company, Rosemont Seneca Partners, which, according to open sources, in particular the New York Times, is affiliated with Joe Biden.
Well,
it's his son, Biden.
The payment reference was payment for consultive services.
Durach
also publicized sums of money transferred to Barisma Group representatives, including Joe Biden's son.
According to the document,
Barisma paid no less than $16.5 million
to Devon Archer and Hunter Biden,
who joined as board of directors in 2014.
Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases to the activity of a former Ukrainian ecology minister, who is the founder and owner of the Burisma Group.
Biden's fifth visit to Kyiv on December 7th, a date which will still live in infamy, was devoted to making a decision on the resignation of the prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, over the case of Zelevsky and Burisma.
Loan guarantees worth more than $1 billion that the United States was to give Ukraine was the point of pressure.
Biden himself admitted exerting pressure in his speech.
According to Interfax, that is the group in the journalistic group in Ukraine, the timeline of events proves that the U.S.
linked the Zelensky case to the loan guarantees.
We know this.
After the decree dismissing Shokin was published on April 3rd, the governments of the United States and Ukraine signed a loan guarantee worth $1 billion.
In this case, there are facts that should be subject to investigation, he said.
The agency has powers to investigate them.
The U.S.
Department of Justice,
if the Ukrainian Prosecutor General signs documents and sends them to the U.S.
Department of Justice without any request, he will accomplish his mission.
Considering international corruption in public is a way out for President Zelensky, I am certain that he is not involved in international corruption.
The problem with this story is we don't know who to trust
because
everybody has lost credibility in Ukraine.
Everyone in the entire country.
No, I'm serious.
It just seems like every time you bring up anything, there's always going to be a corruption allegation because it seems like everyone in the country has committed some sort of corruption crime.
Well,
there is Victor.
You remember Victor?
He's the guy with the dog.
Oh, yeah.
Cute dog.
Cute dog.
The dog committed a corruption crime.
That one, not Victor.
But Victor's clean, we think.
No,
here's the thing.
Let's just change countries here for a second and put it in our part of the world.
Ukraine is a very small country in the grand scheme of things.
It doesn't have a large GDP.
In fact, look at their GDP and see if you can compare it to states.
See what state Ukraine is like.
So it's a small place.
Yeah, it's medium.
I would say it's medium, right?
I mean.
Texas is bigger.
California is bigger.
New York will be bigger.
Florida probably will be bigger.
I mean, it's a state,
you know, obviously part of the Soviet Union
for a very long time.
Yeah, it's where you can go to, if you want to go see the fallout of a nuclear disaster.
I want to go.
I really want to go.
I do, too.
That's the place to go.
Right.
In Ukraine.
Right.
Let's see.
Ukraine.
So if we could compare it to a country in our hemisphere, imagine if the Republicans all of a sudden had their family members.
By the way, have you heard the latest on Nancy Pelosi's son?
He was also now the, I think he was the COO
of a oil company in Ukraine.
So weird.
You know, I don't think of Ukraine as
Disneyland where you send your children, but everyone in the Democratic Party seems to be sending their children over there.
Okay, so imagine.
I think of it a place where a hostile sequel would occur.
And instead,
people just keep sending their kids over there.
Right.
So if a bunch of Republicans sent their families down to, let's say, Brazil and
they were all running, you know,
I don't know, swimwear stuff in Brazil, we wouldn't necessarily think anything.
However, if the Republicans all sent their kids and
the DNC set up shop there and they were working through the embassy and all these things were going and the country was Columbia.
We might all say,
you know,
George Bush's kids set up a farm there.
I'm wondering what they're farming in Colombia.
I wonder what kind of leaves they're picking down there.
I wonder if this is a, I wonder if this is a front for drug lords.
I wonder if they're getting kickbacks from any drug lords and they're living high off the off the hog in Colombia.
Wouldn't we be asking those questions?
This is as corrupt as Colombia.
And
all of
our Democratic friends seem to have some pretty great deals.
Now, the latest on Pelosi is that her son, and there's videotape showing it where he's proudly talking about his company.
It appears as though he was made COO of this company, but this company apparently
was started by two criminals that couldn't own a company in Ukraine.
They were no longer allowed.
They were so corrupt.
They were no longer allowed to have a business.
And so Nancy Pelosi's son appears to have been kind of a beard for this company.
Now, you would think again that if you were going to send your kids over there, you would warn your kids: hey, kids, this is really corrupt.
I mean, you could easily fall into those Colombian drug lords.
So if you go to Colombia, don't get in bed with drug lords.
But both Joe Biden,
John Kerry,
and a third now, Nancy Pelosi, sent their kids over there,
and they all happen to fall in a play with drug lords.
Darn it.
They're all in bed with oligarchs and criminals.
Hmm.
It's just so weird.
I mean, you think really
weird.
Why would you, why would you
go there?
It doesn't seem like there's like tons of direct flights.
No, it's just not like a place you just go to.
Yeah, people don't even know if it's Kiev or Kiev.
They can't even figure it out.
Right.
They keep sending people there.
Right.
They're sending people there.
By the way, this is the place that Russia was trying to take back, and Russia had troops shooting people in the main square just at the same time.
Everybody's like, hey, kids, why don't you go start a business in Ukraine?
That doesn't make any sense.
So there's 233 countries or states in the world.
ukraine 33rd in population 44 million people how many what's the gdp gdp
you look that up give me one minute i'll come right back look at the gdp this is not a significant country i mean
it plays a role because of its former soviet status but it's it's not like why why did they send so much over there
uh and i'm not talking about you know should we defend them or help them?
I mean, they sent their, Obama sent his personal attorney over there.
Hillary Clinton sent her
personal strategist, her chief strategist.
Obama had his chief pollster.
Bernie Sanders sent his chief pollster over there.
Nancy Pelosi sent her son.
Joe Biden sent his son.
John Kerry sent his son.
Yeah.
192 countries ranked by GDP.
Ukraine at 132.
Hello?
And especially when you consider it's what, 40.
What did I say, 40?
33.
33 in population?
Yeah.
That's, yeah.
It doesn't seem like the monetary paradise you'd want.
No, it's really not.
It's really not.
While you're sending your son off to war, the Congress, the Democrats, seem to be sending their kids off to oligarchs.
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Thank you.
All right, Stu.
Yes.
Your research.
Tell me, what'd you find?
I believe I said both of the things right before break.
So 30
third in population.
Give me a state that has a bigger GDP.
We know California.
We know New York.
We know
Illinois.
Give me a comparison.
Closest would be like Mississippi.
Okay.
All right.
So this is the GDP of Mississippi.
Why are all of the...
it's not Silicon Valley.
Why are all these Democratic kids all congregating in Ukraine?
If it's not that mom or dad have a little extra juice there and you can go make a lot of money because we're going to set this up, that you're a consultant that can help bridge the gap to the power players in Washington, D.C.
That is what happened.
And that's only one part of the story.
And how come no one is reporting on that?
You have John Kerry, the Secretary of State.
His son goes over and he is put on a board of directors.
Why did they put him on the board of directors?
As a liaison to be able to get the most amount of money and influence in the United States.
He's joined by Joe Biden's son.
They're paid up to $3 million, $3.3 million,
just to bridge that gap.
That's what they were for.
Then you have Nancy Pelosi's son going over there, being a beard for a company that shouldn't have been started because it was started by two criminals who were not allowed to start a company.
Is this not worth looking into?
Yeah, I mean, Peter Schweitzer has a great column on this in the New York Times today.
And it is a conspiracy theorist, the conspiracy theorist.
Somehow they let him write in the New York Times, which is so strange.
But he wrote, What Hunter Biden did was legal, and that's the problem.
And he goes through the details of a lot of the stuff from Ukraine and China, and he boils down both of those things really well
for the very basic sort of outline of what happened.
And the issue is that there's nothing preventing
a close, direct family member from benefiting off the name of some powerful government employee.
There is stuff to like if you're married to someone, they can't benefit off your name.
But sons, cousins, brothers, it's obviously ridiculous.
And, you know, like Biden keeps coming out and saying, like, these are totally debunked claims.
If you think that these people, these bigwigs in Ukraine, were hiring Hunter Biden, a guy that not only had no experience when it comes to the gas industry, but also has all sorts of crazy personal problems that make him completely unreliable to make $50,000 a month.
If you don't think the reason why they hired him was because they knew that Joe Biden was vice president, you're nuts.
Now, they might have,
you could make the argument they never received one bit of benefit from this.
Hard to believe to me, hard to believe.
But do, I mean, mean we've talked about these things you can say that there's no direct evidence of that however we know the motivation yes of the of the country we know the motivation in china we know the motivation in ukraine there's no reason to hire hunter biden the guy it can barely keep his life together seriously like the guy literally he is on he is on the verge and has relapsed more times than
you know he it's it's all it's like sean penn level yeah the guy's had major problems i wish him the best but i certainly would not be hiring him for a $50,000 a month.
Well, I would like to, you know, I mean, I guess we can understand why Nancy Pelosi's son was hired as the COO of an oil company because she is on record loving oil companies.
She loves them.
She thinks that they're great.
They have a bright, bright future.
So you can see growing up in that family that is so pro-Exxon,
so pro-fossil fuels, you can see why her son went into the oil industry.
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Welcome to the program.
We have to talk about Turkey.
The Federalist has a very good story out about Turkey and what Donald Trump is doing with Turkey and
the choice he gave them.
They chose to go against the United States,
and he made that very clear.
If you do that,
here's what's going to happen.
And it's a really good look at it, a way to look at Turkey that I had not before.
It seems well sourced, but it is a mess.
We
have a family that the Nazarene Fund already rescued from ISIS, put them back into their homes as ISIS was broken up.
Last night their home was bombed, and I got word that the full family was dead.
There's an update to that.
We'll talk about it coming up in just a few minutes.
But we are going to have to move
many,
many Christians, and I'm afraid Yazidis as well, out of the region.
These people have been clinging and holding on because they don't want to abandon their homeland, but it's going to, they're all going to,
it is genocide that is coming.
You said you had, you, you had seen
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Oh, the Federalist.
Yeah, we're going gonna get into that at the top of the hour okay you're saving that yeah i'm saving that i see um you don't want to tell me yeah i can't know about it well you could read the federalist or i'll break it down for you in half an hour
the biden campaign uh wrote last night to the new york times and in the letter to the new york times now i want you to listen to this um they say what was especially troubling about the new york times active participation in this smear campaign against joe biden is that prior to its reporting on the subject by Ken Vogel, this conspiracy theory had been relegated to the likes of Breitbart, Russian propaganda, and another conspiracy theorist, regular Hannity guest, John Solomon.
John Solomon,
a guy who worked for the New York Times, worked for the Washington Post, and worked for the AP for 20 years, has exposed corruption on both sides of the aisle.
A buttoned-up reporter, now a conspiracy theorist.
They then went on to say,
despite work done by the independent press and fact-checkers, including some by the Times, to refute the heinous conspiracy
theory that Donald Trump attempted to bully Ukraine into propping up for him, the paper ran an op-ed by none other than Peter Schweitzer making more malicious claims about the Biden family.
This leaves us with a critical question: Are you at the New York Times blind to what you got wrong in 2016?
Or are you deliberately continuing policies that distort reality for the sake of controversy and clicks that accompany it?
I just want you to know: Joe Biden went on the war path last night and is now claiming that the New York Times is fake news
and nothing but conspiracy theorists.
It's amazing.
It is
incredible.
What if we change the focus on this too
and say, okay, I know this is a wild conspiracy.
I get that.
I know we're crazy to even mention it.
I mean, yes, we know for a fact that Hunter was doing business there.
We know that, right?
Nobody disputes that.
And let's not leave out John Kerry's son.
And John Kerry's son.
And yes, he was being investigated.
In fact, there were three investigations, and I think two of them were still going on.
And yes, Joe insisted that the guy who was responsible for the investigations be fired in lieu of receiving $1.8 billion
in aid from the United States.
Okay, all of that's crazy stuff.
But let's just focus on this.
Despite the outrageousness of the allegation, if it happened, if you find out it did happen,
then
would that be in the national interest to know about?
Well,
would it just be for a campaign purpose?
Remember, the U.S.
gave Burisma $1.8 billion,
billion dollars.
The guy who owns Burisma is the guy who owns the big national bank called Private Bank in Ukraine.
So it's not only that the influence went to Joe Biden's son and they influenced to be able to get that 1.8 for this particular group.
The guy who owned that
is an oligarch of biblical proportions so bad he couldn't get a visa to come into the United States.
He was not allowed into the United States.
But when Joe Biden's son started to work for them, he finagled visas and had that ban removed from that oligarch.
So that oligarch was coming to the United States and had a visa.
He could just visit us anytime the same month
that the oligarch said, geez, where did I put that $1.8 billion?
I know I put it in the bank, but now it's gone.
Yeah.
So they lost, quote unquote, lost the $1.8 billion of your tax dollars.
That's a
tax money.
It's tax money.
It's your money.
They lost it.
This guy is cleaned up for some reason.
Under Obama, he could not get a visa.
But as soon as Joe Biden's son is in there, he gets a visa and he's all cleaned up.
At the same time, he lost $1.8 billion from his bank.
Yeah.
Michael isn't a problem?
Yeah, they can't keep the lid on this.
This is going to blow.
And somebody's going to confirm this.
Somebody Democrats believe, like the New York Times or Washington Post or somebody is eventually, it's going to be too big.
They're going to have to talk about it.
They're going to have to expose it.
And at that point, you're going to know it's the national interest.
You're going to have to stop the madness with the impeachment nonsense.
Well,
you have now Nancy Pelosi's.
Remember, what did I say this was really all about?
That they were throwing Joe Biden to the wolves.
Okay.
They didn't care about his election.
While they thought that was important,
now all of it's going to be exposed.
And so they were making this about Donald Trump trying to find Joe Biden dirt.
Okay.
And they were hoping that they could keep that lid.
But the problem is, Donald Trump, when he said, do me a favor, he said, look at the corruption.
Not with Joe Biden.
Look at the corruption with the ambassador.
Look for the corruption of the lost money.
Look for the corruption with the missing servers.
Did you see what I put on the chalkboard last night?
On the chalkboard last night, I looked at Chalupa.
Now, this is the woman who was working for the DNC.
Well, who knew about her sisters?
Her one sister is so connected in this whole thing that her sister is on the board where another board member, a guy named Dimitri,
when the Democrats said, hey, we've got a problem.
Somebody hacked into our server, they called Dimitri.
And Dimitri just happens to be the founder and owner
of CrowdStrike.
That was in the phone call.
Wow.
Before he said, hey, look into Joe Biden.
He said, look into CrowdStrike.
They knew.
Donald Trump knew.
I thought at the very beginning when I said it was like he didn't really know what he was talking about.
Who...
Did Rudy Giuliani or somebody else write some notes and say, hey, ask him about this?
And then he was passionate about Joe Biden and asked him two paragraphs later.
No,
no.
Donald Trump knows exactly what was going on.
And I said at the time, they are throwing Joe Biden under the bus.
It's a red herring because they know all of them are going to be exposed.
Why did Nancy Pelosi
all of a sudden change her mind on something she supposedly at the time said she had never seen?
Because her son is a beard for an oil company in Ukraine.
That's why.
This is unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
You talk about the corruption in Ukraine.
We got nothing to talk about.
Look at these Democrats.
Oh, it's despicable.
The guy,
despicable.
The Barack Obama administration said, hey, we're not going to send all these advisors and everybody over unless you have
a national anti-corruption board.
And we'll help you set that up.
Okay.
They did.
The guy who went to court and got a guilty verdict against him for interfering in our election is the guy who was the head of the anti-corruption board.
My gosh.
It's incredible.
Jeez.
When is
somebody in the mainstream media going to be willing to say, and I, you know what's crazy?
If you were a real radical,
you would do it because this would destroy the old Democratic Party.
The ones who are involved in this, except Bernie Sanders, is sent over an advisor.
We don't know what happened there.
No fingerprints on Bernie being dirty here, but Elizabeth Warren, I don't think, was dirty on this.
If you were somebody who wanted those radicals in, this burns down the old party.
It also kind of clears the way for somebody else who's kind of waiting in the wings right now and making some noise that she might be interested in joining the party.
No.
Another
thing you should, you should watch last night's Chuckboard.
Oh, so you don't think she's going to run?
No, no, no.
She's involved.
Oh, she's involved.
I would not be surprised at all.
She's involved.
She sent over one of her advisors,
the guy who
was
instrumental in a couple of things.
In fact,
funding Stop Fake, which
is now translating all of the news into 11 different languages to stop all these conspiracy theories and stop all this craziness,
funded by the biggest funder of Hillary Clinton's,
you know, her
charity thing for crippled children.
Yeah, he's one of the biggest funders of that.
And he also,
in our investigation,
kind of set up shop basically in, you know, right across the hallway from her office as Secretary of State
so he could have a lobbyist that close to her.
I mean, it's all, it's, it's all in Ukraine.
It's all in Ukraine.
And China.
And all over the rest of the world.
Surely.
You know, especially when it comes to the Clinton Foundation.
I mean, that's not just in Ukraine.
That's all over over the place.
No.
But there's a lot.
No, but the key, I think,
they're all gathered in Ukraine.
I don't know.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were all gathered in China as well.
But you've got to remember, these countries are corrupt.
China, you get things done through bribery.
Ukraine, you get things done through bribery.
They were using your hard-earned dollars to bribe people in Ukraine to screw with our election, to gather dirt on people, to enrich themselves.
It's
grotesque.
It's absolutely grotesque.
Pat, thanks for joining us.
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By the way, I was trying to send out yesterday on YouTube, I was trying to send out the chalkboard.
There's a 50-minute
50-minute version of the chalkboard on Ukraine.
Guess what I could not find no matter what I searched for last night on Google?
I tried to search every possible combination.
I could find every video except for that one.
Huh.
It is incredible.
Weird.
It's incredible what's going on.
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We're going to go through some of Hunter Biden's life
because it is important to see
who Burisma hired.
Would you hire this guy?
And
his life is quite an interesting story.
And I don't bring it up to humiliate him or, I mean, there is nobody that understands alcoholism like me, and nobody that is willing to give an alcoholic a second
and maybe even a third chance.
Oh, you're going to have to do much better than that.
But I was going to say, this one is not a second or third chance.
And we'll get into that here in just a second.
We're also trying to get a hold of Schweitzer because he wrote an op-ed about Biden yesterday.
And Joe Biden is now saying that the New York Times is part of a conspiracy theory.
And they're just pushing conspiracy theorists.
By the way, a conspiracy theory of mine
has just become fact.
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We really have him on the lead conspiracy theorist?
The guy who is just ripping off Wikipedia by using the same word here and there?
Oh my God.
What will we stoop to next?
Peter Schweitzer, a good friend of the program, a credible, credible journalist who is now being smeared and smeared in particular by a letter that was written by Joe Biden's team to yell at the New New York Times, you're just feeding conspiracies
based on something that they published from Peter Schweitzer yesterday.
We get the story from the horse's mouth.
If you can believe this conspiracy theorist, this is the guy who says that the Clintons are corrupt.
I mean,
what will he make up next?
Peter Schweitzer in one minute.
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We're in a very bad situation, and I want you to know we're in a situation that was created by the Obama administration and, quite frankly, people like John McCain.
And we armed people, and we set the Middle East on fire.
Now, Donald Trump is trying to get us out of there, and there's no good solution to this.
We'll talk about that coming up in just a second, and the price that people are paying over there
because we lit a fuse.
We'll get to that coming up in a second.
But first, that conspiracy theorist, Peter Schweitzer.
I'm trying to take you serious, Peter, but it's so hard.
It was great to be out with you, Glenn.
Thanks for having me.
I guess we're conspiring in front of your audience.
Oh, yeah.
No,
we're going to swear, everybody, to secrecy here.
No matter what you hear in the next few minutes, you didn't hear us.
We're not really talking to each other.
Peter, let's.
First of all, let me start with this.
Last week, in something completely outrageous, they started saying that you were ripping portions of your book right off of Wikipedia.
And the charges were so crazy because they were saying,
what was the one example, Stu, that we were talking about just yesterday?
They're talking about the mayor of Chicago who had a press conference when he sobbed.
And then they take part of your sentence that also used the word sobbed.
And they're like, well, he copied the word sobbed from Wikipedia.
And it's like,
no, that's actually a word other people use.
Yeah.
It It's crazy weak.
And the problem is, guys, that if we had used the word cried, I'm sure somebody else had described or published an article saying he cried.
Yeah, I mean, this is what's really happened is about two weeks ago, the New York Times had a news piece on this.
The Biden campaign has avoided trying to deal with Ukraine and China.
You've talked about it and reported on it extensively.
I did in Secret Empires.
Their strategy was to ignore it.
The problem is
that it's really captured the interest of the American people.
So they've gone on the attack, and their approach is still not to deal with the evidence.
It's to attack the messenger.
So they have tried these scurrilous attacks.
The bottom line is they don't work.
People are interested in this material.
And as we've talked about before, Glenn, this is all follow the money.
There's no conspiracy we're alleging here.
There's no theory here.
We have the money.
We have the trips on Air Force II.
We have the Joe Biden policies, we have the Joe Biden favors.
Now the people have to look at the material and decide one of two things, Glenn.
This is all just a crazy coincidence, right?
That Hunter got these deals that he didn't deserve and that Joe Biden did what he did.
It's all just a coincidence, or
there is corruption at the highest levels here.
And I think most people that look at this, the vast majority of people, say there's something amiss.
And the Biden team, I think, is in panic.
So I agree with you, and
I think the whole DNC is in panic right now.
Yesterday, it came out that Nancy Pelosi's son was hired as, I think, COO of this oil company over in Ukraine.
And you know why they went to Pelosi's family because she loves oil companies, just loves them.
But he was actually a beard for a company, for two owners of this company that
were
known oligarchs, known
scam artists and criminals.
They were not supposed to be able to open their own company.
And so he was running it kind of as a beard.
Well, I think she's panicked too.
I think they're all panicking.
No, you're exactly right, Glenn.
I mean, if you look, I was listening to you earlier and you were talking about the Clintons.
And, you know, the foreign country that donated more to the Clinton Foundation than anybody else was Ukraine.
Joe Biden's son gets this sweetheart oil deal deal in Ukraine.
Nancy Pelosi's son is involved with this deal in Ukraine.
John Kerry's son.
Well, and here's the thing, Glenn, is so, you know, we're all used to seeing all these stories about how corrupt Ukraine is, and it repels us.
The problem is it has the opposite effect on our political elites, because they see it as an opportunity to self-enrich.
They see it as an opportunity for a quick payday in a way they could not get it in the United States.
They could not get it in Japan or England because it wouldn't be tolerated.
And this is the problem.
China, the same way.
They're magnets for our political elite because they can do things and get away with things they can't in other parts of the world.
And, you know, as I talked about in the New York Times piece, this is a bipartisan problem.
But I got to tell you, and I think the evidence is clear, nobody has done this more systematically than Joe Biden when he was vice president.
His son had deals in China, he had deals in Ukraine.
We know that in a money he was drawing cash from, Hunter Biden, there was money coming from Kazakhstan.
There was money from anonymous LLCs, from Swiss bank accounts.
So there's a bigger, bigger story here.
And what the Bidens want to do is attack me or attack the New York Times.
John Solomon.
Yes, John Solomon, absolutely excellent reporter, excellent reporter.
I deal with reporters from all kinds of mainstream media outlets, and they all know John Solomon and trust John Solomon.
Then how come they're allowing even the New York Times to smear John Solomon?
John worked for the New York Times.
He worked for the Washington Post.
He worked for Associated Press.
He has outed people on both sides of the aisle.
He's won all kinds of awards.
How come his colleagues aren't standing up and going, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
John Solomon is not that guy.
Yeah, no, it's a great question.
Look, I think that the New York Times, there are all kinds of things going on there.
I deal with some reporters there, and they are top-flight reporters.
But there are problems with other reporters and with some of the editors.
In the case of my piece that ran yesterday, this may surprise a lot of people, but it was actually solicited by the New York Times.
They came to me and said, would you write a piece relating to the Secret Empire's book?
You and I have talked about it many times, Glenn.
Would you write a piece in the New York Times book talking about the Bidens, give another example from the other side, and propose a solution?
So they approached me, and, you know, everything that we do is fact-checked internally.
But when you submit a piece like that to the New York Times, they fact-check it.
It went through fact-check.
Everything was fine.
So, you know, my experience is there are Times reporters that are really trying to cover this stuff.
There are other Times reporters, it's like any news organization, who are going to be more lazy or they're going to do somebody's bidding.
And that's what I think you're seeing.
And what the Biden letter from the campaign is intended to do is to try to basically push the management of the New York Times to silence these people that want to cover this story.
That's clearly what their intention is.
Not to mention intimidate other publications from allowing your work to be seen as well.
Exactly.
And I will say, too, you mentioned
they asked for someone from the other side, which you supplied, which was a person inside the Trump administration, along with Mitch McConnell and his wife Elaine Chow.
And so
you went into this.
Even in the story they're complaining about, you went after both sides here.
And your point being that this is not illegal, and that's the thing that needs to change.
Exactly.
I mean, it was funny.
So another one of the hit pieces against me was Jane Mayer of The New Yorker,
which again has all this ridiculous stuff in it.
But one of the things she puts in there is that, you know, Schweitzer writes this book, Secret Empires, and really what he is is just an opposition researcher.
And I'm sitting there thinking, I'm thinking, man, I must be a really stupid one because I go after Republicans as well.
So, you know, who actually am I doing opposition research on?
And what I would say is I'm doing opposition research on corruption, and that tends to be establishment political figures from both sides of the aisle.
And you're exactly right.
This is a problem that doesn't have a D or R after its name.
It has human after this name.
It goes to the basic roots.
You guys talk about this on the radio all the time.
It goes to that basic part of the corruptible nature of man and power, its ability to corrupt people.
And that's what we're seeing here, and they don't want people discussing it.
I can't believe that the Uber left is not joined this parade on Ukraine because this takes down
the democratic
leadership, the
guys who are in this institution forever.
It takes apart the Democratic National Committee.
It takes apart all of it.
And I can't believe that they're not grabbing onto this, saying,
this is why you need to vote differently because these guys are corrupt.
Why aren't they doing that?
Great question, Glenn.
I remember in 2016, you know, when I did Clinton Cash and you and I talked about it, and it got a lot of media attention, New York Times, et cetera, Bernie Sanders was reluctant for some reason to, you know, criticize Hillary Clinton on this corruption.
But if you followed his hardcore supporters on social media or on websites, they were all over this material because they get it.
I think what you're seeing with a lot of the candidates right now is they're jockeying.
They're trying to figure out strategically what's going to benefit them the most.
Whereas their basis supporters, if you're an Elizabeth Warren supporter or Bernie Sanders supporter, a lot of them are true believers.
And I think they are outraged and they are starting to speak up about this.
And I think the Biden approach of just saying this is going to go away if we just give it time is not true.
I think the reporting continues, the momentum on reporting continues,
and that's not going to go away.
And he's going to have to address this.
And the only way he's going to be able to address this, I think, is to lay out precisely what went on.
And he's just not going to do that.
He's been
in a safe Senate seat for since 1972.
Then he was vice president.
He's not used to being held into account.
He never really had a serious challenger in Delaware.
And so it's just running contrary to his nature to say, I've got to go out and be honest and address this.
He hasn't had to do that in more than 40 years.
So let me ask you about this.
There is a new
allegation that came out from Ukraine yesterday by a guy named Andri Durkak.
He is a Ukrainian MP,
and he said that he has documents, and we're having one of these documents, the only one that's been released, translated.
Even the press that has printed these documents has not translated for some reason.
We have it in translation.
I hope to have it by the end of the show, but I think it's going to be this afternoon before we get it.
But he says these documents show that Joe Biden,
not only his son, got a piece of $16.5 million,
but Joe Biden himself was paid $900,000 for
his work for Burisma on behalf of Burisma.
Have you ever heard that he got paid directly?
I mean, this is hard to believe because that's
illegal.
It is, and I think it would be extremely reckless.
I mean, look, Glenn, this is the reason I think that President Trump was actually - it was very appropriate for him to say the U.S.
Department of Justice should work with Ukrainians to investigate this.
The challenge in Ukraine is
who do you trust?
Yes, it's extremely corrupt.
I don't really know this political figure.
I don't know if those documents are accurate.
I think exactly the way that you laid it out is perfect.
You've got to be kind of skeptical and say this is hard to believe.
But this is why you need people over there.
The notion that somehow the Ukrainians should investigate this themselves to me is ludicrous.
They're just not going to be able to do it.
And that's why we need people over there.
Are these documents genuine?
Are they real?
Are they made up?
There's so much political theater in Ukraine that I think we need to be skeptical until we have actual people go over there.
John Solomon's been trying to do this.
Go over there who are professionals who know this and say, look, I'm using various tests, and these documents appear to be genuine.
So I think your tone and approach on this, Glenn, is exactly right.
Yeah, it's one of those things where when something is too good to be true,
it usually is.
All right, Peter, thank you so much.
Thank you for all of the work that you've done.
I'd love to bring you down for a podcast where we could spend 90 minutes on what you know and take us through all of that.
But I thank you so much for everything that you've done.
And keep your chin up.
I know what it's like to be called a conspiracy theorist and to have all of your good work just thrown out
and ridiculed by those in power.
Thank you.
Thank you, Glenn.
I appreciate it.
You bet.
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Hey, Stu, let's look into Joe Biden here for just a few minutes.
And
how much time do you have, Glenn?
We've got about five minutes here.
Two.
Okay, two minutes.
Two minutes, okay.
And then we have a guest coming up here in a few minutes, but we can go through part of this.
Yeah.
It's incredible.
So, the concept being: if you're Burismo, why are you hiring
Hunter Biden?
No, you're hiring Hunter Biden because he's a guy who can help you.
He's got, well, no experience in gas.
He has no experience on, you know, being on a board of directors to run a gas company.
He has no financial, you know, holdings experience.
So why do you hire him?
Why would you do that?
Right.
So it's not only that he doesn't have those things.
He's a guy in the middle of massive personal problems.
Okay.
We don't say this to mock, but this is serious.
So let me just go through what I found real quick.
In college, he was using cocaine.
Okay.
And then he used crack in college.
Then in 2000, so he went through a while.
That was in the early 90s.
2001, he got drunk on a train.
Okay.
And he decided he was having a problem.
2003, he decided with his wife he wouldn't drink for 30 days.
And then he would always do it.
And then on day 31, he would break it.
This sounds just like the stories you used to tell me about alcoholism.
September 2003, he goes into rehab.
Late 2003, he goes into AA.
So then he has a nice break, about seven years of sobriety.
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2010 to 2011, he drinks for several months is what they describe.
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2013, he gets on painkillers and has an issue again.
In May 2013, he stops at a bar and he has a cigarette that seems to be laced with something in his telling.
Then he gets test positive for cocaine.
July 2014, again, 2014 is when he starts with buryism.
So this is what leads into his buryism hire.
I mean, I'm never going to get through this.
2014, he goes into rehab again to use a substance that is illegal in the United States at the rehab place.
Then goes back to rehab again in 2014 in the United States.
In 2015, he starts drinking vodka again and moves out of his house.
But by the way, he's still, I mean, he can afford the rehab and the drinks and the cocaine because they're paying him $50,000 a month.
One of his relapse comes with the guy who runs Burisma.
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I
am probably going to be very controversial here on my take on Turkey Turkey and
the Kurds, but I want out of the Middle East.
I want us to stop meddling in everybody's business in the Middle East.
You cannot plant democracy.
And we as human beings, as individuals, we can gather groups and we can help.
I'd personally like to see the NBA say, China, our money, your money, is not worth the lives of people.
It's not worth trading your money for people's freedom.
I would like us to stand as people against these things and help when we can.
I just don't want our military doing it all because we've caused some real problems in the Middle East.
You know, it's not just us, it's everybody meddling in there.
And it's a real tough thing.
And
don't know what to think about
the president's doings, although I read a great article in The Federalist that makes total sense.
And if that indeed is what
Trump is doing, there's some good sources on there.
I agree with him.
I agree with him.
But the consequences are high for people that even we have already helped out.
The Christians and the Yazidis are going to come under attack, and the Turks want them dead.
We have
Rudy Atala.
He is the chief operating officer of the Nazarene Fund.
He's a guy.
He's a native of Beirut, Lebanon, fluent in Arabic and French.
He has had over 20 years in the United States Air Force,
special operations to intelligence and counterterrorism.
He has consulted presidents, and we are thrilled that he has been our COO, and he's the guy who is sending these rescue missions and putting them together and rescuing these people.
Rudy, welcome to the program.
Good morning.
Thank you, Glenn.
Thank you so much.
You bet.
I don't want to get into the politics of this because I know it's split, and we may even disagree on the politics of it.
I just want to talk about the human cost and what is going to happen, and what our
responsibility, I believe, for the people who choose to help their, you know, be a good Samaritan and help the people,
what we can do.
First, let's start with something I received last night.
These horrific pictures of these people that were in what looked like even the hallway of a hospital
trying to be
cleaned up after a bombing.
I was told both of them were dead.
It's a mother and a father and their children.
The Nazarene Fund had already saved them once from ISIS and then moved them back into their houses.
And I was told they were killed.
You have a different story this morning?
Yes, sir.
Actually, they survived.
They were critically wounded
with the bombings.
The unfortunate thing is, when
Turkey began its bombing, it's very targeted against the it's it's focused on the Kurds, but as we know, Christian families live
in Kurdish areas.
Many of them come from centuries
of
family lineage in the area.
And this family, unfortunately,
was critically wounded.
We're getting the ground invasion just began in a four-pronged attack into northern Syria.
And the displacement, as of this morning, we're hearing that over 100,000 people have already been displaced.
And this number is going to continue to increase.
We're slowly getting
feed from
some of
our members on the ground.
It's been very, very difficult, as you can tell from the bombings and the shellings, to get this information.
But so far, a lot more people have been wounded.
We just don't have a very good tally on the numbers right now.
We have, when we have the video, we are just receiving new video.
If we have the video, go ahead ahead and roll this this is a town
that
somebody appears to be standing on their roof and they're showing that it's just everything around their town is on fire
been bombed
they were safe Can you tell me a little bit about this video,
Rudy?
Did you get it?
Yes.
Yeah, Glenn, I just saw the video.
This is coming from the town of Tel Abyad.
That's in the north-central region of Syria, of northern Syria.
And
the person that videotaped this is videotaping
the different sections
where the Turks are bombing.
The Kurdish forces are not going to take this laying down.
They're going to actually fight.
And the reason why the fighting is going to actually happen is because
back in January 2018, the Turks went into the town of Afrin in Syria and
cleansed over 200,000 Kurds.
This was in January 2018.
So Kurdish forces saw this and are not going to, this time, sit back and not be prepared.
They are going to fight to the death.
So these are not people, I wish we wouldn't have been in bed with these particular Kurds.
These are not the Iraqi Kurds who are very pro-democracy and freedom and love America.
These guys are really some, you know, they're Marxist,
communist
kind of, you know, they're authoritarian.
And I don't like being in bed with them, but still they fought against ISIS.
They actually were guarding a lot of the ISIS members, which we have taken apparently the worst of those ISIS people and got them out so they're not
released back into the public.
But that's one of the things the Kurds and the Christians and the Yazidis are afraid of is
those gates are going to be opened from those prison camps and they're all going to just disappear.
Yes, that's correct.
So, what's going to happen is, as the Kurdish forces will be pressured, big camps like El Hol camp, which houses right now over 70,000 prisoners, mainly the women and children of ISIS fighters, many of them very radicalized and have sworn to fight.
Camps like Aina Isa, Roj, all of these camps now will be under a major duress because the Kurds will not be able to maintain
guard over them.
And the likelihood, and actually Bardadi last month,
the leader of ISIS, made a plea for his fighters to go in and rescue all these prisoners and get them released.
We are now already hearing of ISIS attacks.
We're hearing of suicide attacks, not unconfirmed yet, but
I would not be surprised if they start to show.
You know, back when
ISIS was strong and they controlled a good chunk of real estate in northern Syria, many of the ISIS fighters were found with
SIN cards from Turkey.
Their rear base, their support would come from inside Turkey.
Well, we know we shut down two organ harvesting,
you know, quote, hospitals,
and they were in Turkey.
They were helping harvest organs with ISIS.
And, you know,
Turkey is, she may be an ally in NATO, but it's not an ally.
It's not.
They're on the wrong side.
And if I'm not mistaken, I'd love you to correct this.
They want to re-establish the Ottoman Empire.
They want their land back, even from the northern Iraqi Kurds.
They want to wipe out all Kurds and many of the Christians.
They don't want them there anymore.
And Turkey has done this in the past.
Am I mistaken that we're looking at a genocide?
Yes, I would call it an ethnocide, but yes, you're correct.
And the reason why is because the current president of Turkey is a card-carrying member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
And when the Muslim Brotherhood was established in the early part of the 20th century, the view from Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, is to return to what he calls pan-Arabism and pan-Islamism, basically a control when Islam had conquered all the way up to the end of the Ottoman Empire in the beginning of the 20th century.
It had large real estate in North Africa, across the Middle East, into a good chunk of Europe.
And the idea behind the Muslim Brotherhood is basically to return to this
pan-Arabism.
And that's the foundation of it.
The current president of Turkey holds these views in his mind.
So what he's talking about right now is repatriating a lot of the refugees that are inside Turkey into northern Syria and creating that buffer zone.
Unfortunately, most people don't understand that what he really wants to do is he wants to rid of northern Syria of any presence of Christians or Kurds and replace them with Arabs, Sunni Arabs that have the same mindset.
Because only 17 to 20% of the refugees currently in Syria are, I mean, in Turkey, are Syrian Arabs
that are Sunnis.
So he's not going to have a lot of refugees to work with.
And he's going to have to replace the rest of these gaps with other people.
Okay, Rudy, you and I have talked to many of these Christians in the past.
They've wanted to stay in the area because they don't want to abandon the birthplace, in many cases, of Christianity,
where the apostles actually set up the actual church that they attend.
And
they don't want to abandon it.
I have a feeling what's coming now, they're going to be willing to say,
I got to get out of here.
We got to get our families out of here.
This is
am I overstating it to say the problem may be worse than it was before and we have to get these people out?
Yes, it's
it could become a lot worse and we need to help every single one of them.
And the reason why is they're going to get pushed into areas that are predominantly dominated by
Iranian-backed militias, which are just as bad as as ISIS.
And
we can see a resurgence of ISIS.
So they would be indiscriminately targeted because of their Christian faith.
And sadly enough, as you mentioned, we would lose a lot of those Judeo-Christian areas
that have been there for centuries that hold basically
the historical data of
our heritage, of where we originally came from.
Like, you know, the tomb of Jonah, the tomb of Nahum, and all these very special old places that you read in the Old Testament.
So, and
these Christian families are,
you know, we talked, I was in Iraq with my team not even a month and a half ago, and we were talking to 684 Syrian Christian families that were crying.
They wanted to return back to Syria, but they could not because the infrastructure was taken away from them.
They can't even work.
Now we're going to see even more Christians leave from inside Syria, and all of them are going to be pushed into neighboring countries like
Iraq, like Jordan, like Lebanon, which are already at the brink of maximum capability to help refugees.
So
they don't have the infrastructure to take in more refugees.
The medical capabilities are not there.
So what the Nazarene Fund is doing is we are finding these families.
We are helping them stand on their two feet.
We're working with the government of Australia, and we're looking for other governments to take them in.
We're trying to give them a new lease on life.
Many of them are professionals.
A lot of these Christians are professionals, doctors, lawyers, lawyers, engineers, very well-educated people.
All they care about is raising their families properly, but they're not allowed to work in many of these countries.
I had a woman, she looked at me and was crying.
She said, I'm a professional teacher.
I ran a school in Damascus, Syria.
I can't return right now because it's so dangerous for me and my family.
She said, I'm stuck scrubbing toilets from 8 o'clock in the morning to 5 o'clock at night.
She said, I'm not ashamed to do it.
I receive $5 a day for it.
And she said, I'm not allowed to work as a teacher because I'm a Christian.
And what's amazing is most of these people will do those jobs, and they would do those for the rest of their life.
But their lives are being cut short now, and this is a real problem.
Please join us.
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We are the leading people in the Middle East doing this, and we don't want to leave anyone behind.
One other thing, you can also help us by joining us at the M1 Ball, which is happening a week from this Saturday here in Dallas.
This is the thing that we do once a year that raises all of the money to keep the lights on, to keep people like Rudy employed,
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most watched video the Blaze has ever produced in 10 years.
It's watched on YouTube and Facebook as well.
It is hard to find, however.
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If you want to find this chalkboard, go to YouTube and the Glenn Beck page and search for Ukraine Scandal Explained.
Ukraine Scandal Explained, and it should pop up.
And it's a edited 50-minute version of the chalkboard.
A lot of the reporting that we got and the evidence that we have on that chalkboard came from John Solomon, who has been relentless on Ukraine.
And we have a ton of questions.
And John, normally we kind of meander, and I'd like to, I've literally have two and a half pages of questions I'd like to get to
so we can kind of move quickly.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me on today.
Okay.
So, first of all, thank you for everything you've done.
Thank you for the bullets that you are taking.
I know what it's like to have your life's work just discredited and
everything called into question, even though you have the goods,
and you'll make it through it.
And you're going to come out as a hero in this story, I believe.
Well, the great thing is, I don't even really want to be a hero.
I just the good thing about journalism is facts are a stubborn thing.
Yep.
And I think when people look at the facts and they get rid of the spin and the personal ad hominem attacks that don't have any basis, you focus on the facts.
There are a lot of troubling questions, and I'm sure you're going to ask me a lot of them today.
Yeah.
Well,
Devin Nunes has just revealed that they were looking into a report of strange requests to use government resources to monitor journalists over there.
And we have to be cautious because sometimes those are okay, sometimes they're not.
Do you have any new information on this?
Well, I can tell you what happened.
I was listening with interest when Congressman Nunes made those comments last night.
About 10 days ago, I received some communications from the intelligence committee, from sources I had there, and they said to me that there was going to be a revelation soon about some inappropriate monitoring of my communications.
Now, they weren't more specific than that.
So that's really all I've had for the last 10 days.
And I let my note lawyers know, and we're just going to wait and see if an actual notification comes forward.
And then we heard Congressman Nunez last night, what he talked about was very similar to the information the intelligence community sources were telling telling me over the last 10 days.
It sounds like from what we know that
the U.S.
Embassy in Kiev may have been monitoring a handful of journalists' communications.
Now they might be public communications like our Twitter accounts and our interviews or they might have been private.
We don't know yet.
There are very specific rules in the State Department and the intelligence community governing this.
And it sounds like Congressman Nunez wants to find out whether those rules are complied with or not, whether this was an appropriate or inappropriate monitoring of communications.
And as I learned a long time ago, this is my first time.
In 2002, the FBI similarly or actually inappropriately intercepted my mail without a warrant and kept it in an effort to keep me from writing about stories about what had happened before 9-11.
It just took a while to get to the truth, and I think we need to be patient.
There seems to be a red flag here, but we don't have all the facts.
I want to be careful and patient.
Let's go get the facts, and we'll find out what happened.
We have the ambassador,
Jovanovich, testifying before the House.
Do you believe she may be involved in any of this?
Or if you just don't know, you don't know.
Are we going to get anything, do you believe,
new on whether she gave the Ukrainians the do not prosecute list and why she didn't grant visas to the prosecutors who said they had evidence on Biden and collusion between the DNC and the Ukrainian embassy?
I think she's a very important witness, and I look forward to finding out what she has to say.
What we do know,
first of all, on the monitoring, usually such monitoring, if it was done out of an embassy, would have to be authorized by the ambassador under the normal rules.
We don't know if that happened here yet, right?
We could have just some rogue agents.
So let's wait and see.
But the normal processes
would be for the ambassador to authorize such a request.
So let's wait and see what she says.
We'll learn more tomorrow.
On the do not prosecute list, this is one of my favorite red hearings.
Those who now
accuse me of weaving a conspiracy theory say
Ukraine prosecutor Lucenko, the general prosecutor, the attorney general of Ukraine at the time, did an on-camera interview.
It isn't in dispute.
He said it.
And he said that in his first meeting with Ambassador Jovanovich in 2016,
she gave him a series of names of people she did not want to be prosecuted.
And it was a sensational claim.
And so I did the interview in February.
I spent an entire month month checking it out before I actually allowed the interview to run.
That doesn't get mentioned in any of these stories attacking me.
During that one month time, here is what I was able to do to corroborate what the Ukrainian Prosecutor General had said to me.
First, the State Department and the Ukrainians both gave me a copy of the same letter.
It's an April 2016 letter.
It clearly shows the embassy in Kiev instructing, pressuring, ordering the Prosecutor General's office not to pursue an ongoing investigation of a George Soros funded group called ANTAC,
the Anti-Corruption Action Center of Ukraine.
It's a George Soros group.
It's funded partly by Soros, partly by the State Department.
That letter unequivocally shows in writing that the State Department pressured Ukraine not to pursue an entity.
In addition, the State Department put a senior U.S.
official on background for me prior to my
writing the story, and I gave him the names and said, these are the names that Prosecutor General Lucenko said came up in the meeting as people that the U.S.
did not want to see prosecuted.
And that senior official said to me, and I have the quotes right in front of me, I actually had them ready just in case you asked me about this.
I can confirm to you that U.S.
Embassy CAB mentioned several of those names during conversations in 2016 with the Prosecutor General's office and other law enforcement agencies that we did not want to see those people harassed, investigated, or prosecuted.
So the State Department confirmed it.
There was written letters showing such pressure being applied.
And now the media and their defenders are trying to claim that that's a bogus story.
It's not.
It's been corroborated.
It's been confirmed.
And I hope tomorrow Ambassador Jovanovich will honestly answer what went on in that meeting.
I got news for you.
I don't think she is because she's instrumental in the corruption.
She would be incriminating herself on a lot of things, would she not?
Well, you know, listen, she probably is carrying out what she thought was the policy of the United States, or certainly her best effort at it.
That doesn't mean it was right or wrong, but I think just getting the fact based out there, were the Ukrainians telling us the truth?
It appears they were, based on my reporting.
Let's wait and see what she has to say.
Are you as solid on her not granting visas to the Ukrainian prosecutors that claim to have evidence of the Bidens and collusion between the DNC and the Ukrainian embassy?
And she, under the Obama administration, refused entrance to those people?
My understanding is that these
visa requests were
geez, you're breaking up.
You're breaking up.
No.
So what happened was
a lot of people think that this all started with Rudy Giuliani going around Ukraine saying, giving me dirt.
It actually started much earlier.
First,
in May of 2018, more than a year and a half ago,
Congressman Pete
went to Ukraine, Ukraine, came back deeply disturbed by.
Okay, hang on, hang on.
Are you moving into a different room or pacing or anything?
Because we're losing you.
I don't think so.
No.
All right, hang on just a second.
Let me take a quick break because I don't want to miss a single word on this.
Let's take a quick break, have our engineers look at this, see if we can get a better connection.
And we'll come back in one minute with John Solomon.
All right.
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Okay, good.
All right, we have him now on a different line and a different phone.
John Solomon, we were talking about uh the prosecutors at the embassy did she refuse visas uh to let these prosecutors come in and work with the doj
so there were three waves of concerns expressed by ukrainian authorities including the prosecutors and other officials may of 2018 Then House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions, a Republican from Texas, one of the most powerful chairmen in all of Congress at the time, he made a trip over to Ukraine.
He came back and he wrote a letter to the brand new Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and said, I have heard some deeply troubling reports from both Ukrainians and Americans that our ambassador is bad-mouthing President Trump, and I think you should recall her.
That was the first time that Ukrainians on the ground raised the concern that
they saw the ambassador engaged in inappropriate behavior.
interfering in investigations, that sort of stuff.
A few months passed, nothing happened.
So the Ukrainian prosecutors under Lusenko, the career people, not Lusenko, the political figure at the top, but career people downstream from him, they hired an American lawyer.
This is in the October, November time frame of 2018.
They went out of the way.
They hired a former U.S.
attorney here in the United States and they gave him a packet of information of things that they think were going wrong.
One was the prosec uh the ambassador was interfering in Ukrainian internal affairs, like telling us who we could prosecute and not prosecute.
Two, that Joe Biden had fired a prosecutor who was investigating his son's company, Burisma.
And three, there is some significant evidence and there's about to be a court ruling in Ukraine.
This is in the fall of 18.
There's about to be a court ruling that Ukraine inappropriately interfered in the U.S.
election in 2016.
We'd like to get all this information to the Justice Department.
That U.S.
attorney, a Republican, reached out to the U.S.
Attorney's Office in New York and provided that information.
The reason they hired that U.S.
attorney was was that they had tried on their own to get visas to come to the United States, and the embassy was telling them they would not process the request.
They were just sitting there unprocessed.
So they wouldn't reject them.
They wouldn't approve them.
And so they were in limbo, and so they hired this lawyer to go provide that information to the U.S.
attorney in
New York.
I confirmed with that U.S.
attorney.
He did, in fact, convey that information.
He was, in fact, hired.
They were, in fact, not getting their visas.
So an American confirms this story from the Ukrainians.
Okay, so
ahead.
And then we fast forward the third wave is when eventually Lucenko, the boss of these
career prosecutors in Ukraine, the Attorney General of Ukraine, they call him the Prosecutor General, he reaches out to me and agrees to do an interview and he says on the record
what had happened both confirming what Pete Session said, confirming what the prosecutors had done in the fall, and legitimately raising concerns, which is when we have a diplomat on our soil in Ukraine, their job is not to tell us what to do in our internal affairs.
It's to deal with American policy, but not to tell us who we can and can't prosecute on our own soil.
And so three waves over a year, all under President Trump, all efforts to get information to the United States that they thought was troubling, and all before Rudy Giuliani ever got on the ground in Ukraine.
So did we get
those documents?
Did that ever come, and whatever happened to it?
That's a great question.
I spoke to the U.S.
Attorney, the lawyer who was hired.
He says he did, in fact, give a general summary of what they had and then offered to get them all the documents, all the underlying documents that would validate or confirm that summary.
And the U.S.
Attorney's Office in New York never responded with interest, never asked for the documents.
Basically, it died with the first letter that was sent over.
So
it does not look like the U.S.
Justice Department under Donald Trump was very interested in it because they could have at least gotten the documents.
So what did I do?
I went and tried to get those documents, and I got many of them, like the letter I told you about, the do not prosecute letter, like the bank record showing how much Hunter Biden was paid.
I went and got those myself, and I spent months and months validating them with sources, both on the American and U.S.
side.
And when I would have two or three sources saying that is an accurate document, yes, I can confirm that happened.
Then I proceeded in writing my stories.
All right.
A Ukrainian lawmaker, who I've not heard about, has just announced that he has documents that Joe Biden was personally paid $900,000 for lobbying activities for Burisma.
He claims the documents back this up.
It seems like one of those things that is too good to be true.
We don't know who this guy, I don't know who this guy is.
Do you?
And have you heard this?
And is there any truth to this or possibility that it's true?
It's come up many times in my conversations with the Ukrainians.
The problem for me as a reporter, and again, it's a a sensational thing.
It would be a wonderful thing to report, you know, and make famous if it were true, but it's not true, right?
Here's how I know it's not true.
I have the internal accounting registers of
Burisma.
I was able to get them from a source.
They were validated by Burisma corporate officials.
They show every transaction the company ever made.
There is no transaction listed in that
accounting ledger and in any of the financial books or any of the wires that I've also been able to get showing a payment to Joe Biden.
So I don't give much credence.
That lawmaker is very closely aligned to Russia.
So it could be Russian misinformation or propaganda.
I will say many people have alleged that on the ground.
There's a rumor that has long been on Ukraine, but I always stay in the form of
what's in the fact.
And what I can tell you is the amount of money that goes to Hunter Biden's company is a lot more than what Joe Biden and Hunter Biden say.
If you look at the press reports of the last year, there's this number that keeps coming up that Hunter Biden only got $50,000 a month.
Now, only is a lot of money.
$50,000 is a lot of money, right?
That's a big chunk of change.
The problem with that account is that it greatly
underestimates or
it greatly diminishes how much money really was flowing to Hunter Biden and his company.
I have put into the public domain the corporate records of Rosemont Seneca.
How did I get them?
I got them from the FBI in America.
They had upseized them in another case.
I was able to obtain them from the court file.
From the period of 2014 and 2015, you can see from May 2014 through the end of 2015, regular payments totaling more than $166,000 every month going to Rosemont Seneca from Burisma, usually in two payments, $83,333,
twice.
It's highly likely that those payments were
one was for Hunter Biden and the other was for his business partner, Devin Archer, both who got put on the board.
Now that's unusual.
One American company having two board members
raises a question about independence of the board, right?
But there's at least that much of money.
Some months you can see as much as $220,000 going to Rosemont Seneca.
That is a lot more than $50,000.
We do not know what that money was for.
It's marked in the ledger as consulting payments.
So that would mean these board members were also paying themselves consulting fees.
That is why the Ukrainians wanted this to be investigated in America.
Not under Ukrainian law.
They wanted Americans to look at it and find out what was going on with the money.
All right.
Tell me about Nancy Pelosi's son.
He apparently was also,
I think, a COO of an oil company over in Ukraine.
Do you have anything on that?
I don't.
I don't have much visibility on that.
I've seen the reports.
I think there's a much more interesting story emerging in the next few weeks.
I would keep an eye in the next month on the Office of Special Counsel, not to be confused with Robert Mueller's Special Prosecutor's Office.
This is a career office, and it's where whistleblowers traditionally go when they have evidence of wrongdoing.
I am seeing pretty substantial evidence that the OSC has an ongoing investigation into multiple energy companies in Ukraine and the possibility that the Obama administration created erroneous records that allowed more money to flow to those energy companies than what that they were entitled to get at the time.
That case is is still unwinding, but I think we could see a lot of people involved in that case soon.
Wow.
Okay.
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John Solomon
John Solomon has been called a conspiracy theorist by everybody now.
He is an award-winning journalist.
He's worked for the Times.
He's worked for The Post.
He's worked for The Washington Times.
I mean, he's won all kinds of awards.
He is now,
you know, with The Hill.
And
what is your title there?
You're, I think, Executive Vice President.
Yeah, it's funny.
I just left Friday the Hill to start start my own new media company, which will be merging in mid-November.
And I joined Fox as a contributor.
So that all happened in the last few days.
I'm thrilled.
And in mid-November, we'll be launching a new news company committed to just fact-based reporting, just things about the news and old-fashioned reporting brought back to life.
Well, I'm thrilled with that.
I just wanted to point out to the audience, everybody says he's a conspiracy theorist.
You know, on the right or on the left, they're all saying this.
But here's a guy who was attacked through the New York Times by Joe Biden's camp yesterday.
He's asked a question about $900,000, and he says, No, I looked at that.
I don't think that that's true about Joe Biden.
And he doesn't sound like he has any guile or anger in him.
If this is a conspiracy theorist, wow,
he's the most measured and clever conspiracy theorist ever.
Let me, John, let me let me go to let me go to a couple couple of questions here about Chalupa.
Chalupa is this
DNC operative that everybody is rushing to
her defense.
A couple of things.
She's trying now to discredit the Ukrainian official who worked at the embassy, the Ukrainian embassy in D.C.
She's saying he's just a disgruntled employee.
He was fired.
This is the guy who said he was specifically instructed to help her with research on Trump, Russia, and Manafort.
That's right.
What do you make of him and the,
you know,
the exact opposite?
Who do you believe here?
How do we know who to trust here?
Well, that's a great question.
And so I think the person she's referring to is a guy named Mr.
Teleshenko, Andrei Telashenko.
He was the political officer, so like the fourth to fifth ranking official in the Ukrainian embassy in Kiev.
And he first gave his account in January 2017 to Politico.
Remember, it was Politico that first weaved this conspiracy theory, if I can have a little play on words there.
Yeah, that then...
And so they're so very right-wing to Politico.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, they're right up there.
But they originally reported that this woman had made these overtures.
Two years later, I went back to re-report what Politico had and see.
And what was very important in 2017 was while Mr.
Teloshenko was on the record, the embassy itself in Ukraine stood silent.
It would neither confirm nor deny that this had happened.
I went back to the embassy.
So forget Mr.
Teloshenko for a second.
I went to the ambassador himself, Ambassador Shalet, and I went to his press people and I said, listen, did this happen or not?
It's time to come clean.
If it didn't happen, let's knock it down.
If it did happen, let's say what happened.
And remarkably, the Ukraine embassy went on the record and said, yes, in fact, the Democratic National Committee operative, the contractor named Alexander Chalupa did in fact approach us in the spring of 2016 and she asked for the Ukrainian embassy to give it any dirt it had on Donald Trump and Paul Manafort now the embassy said we didn't know at the time she was working for the DNC we learned that afterwards but we were troubled by her interest we were alarmed or surprised I forget the exact word they used that she was so interested in getting dirt on Paul Manafort.
She also asked for a second thing, which is that when the Ukrainian president came to to visit the United States in the summer of 2016, that he do an interview with an investigative journalist who was also seeking dirt on Manafort and
Donald Trump.
So the embassy now confirms.
So if you want to attack.
I suspect it is from an email, which we're going to talk about in a second.
But you can't just, now Talupa has a problem because you can attack Telashenko, but now his boss, the ambassador, has gone on the record saying, yep, that happened.
No doubt about it.
Now, we have other things that we know.
There's an email I obtained and other people obtained and corroborated by the Democratic National Committee in May of 2016, which is right in this timeframe when both the embassy and Mr.
Teloshenko said this funny business was going on.
She sends an email,
Chalupa sends an email to her bosses at the Democratic National Committee.
And she boasts that she's working with the Ukrainians and trying to hook them up with reporters, and that she had just come back from Ukraine or had come back from an event.
I'm sorry, an event where she was helping train Ukrainian journalists on how they could go dig up dirt on Paul Manafort.
So there's a contemporaneous email that seems to implicate Talupa in the very thing she's now denying.
And it really corroborates what both the embassy and Mr.
Teloshenko, now no longer an employee of the embassy, have said to both Politico and I.
I think it's pretty solid evidence and pretty well accepted.
I just saw the New York Times, in fact, a couple days ago say, yeah, it looks like the DNC really did do that at the embassy.
So I think
I don't know what Ms.
Chalupa is trying to do now,
but I think the factual
basis for that allegation is pretty strong.
Okay.
Did she, I've only got a few minutes, so I got to just try to run through a few of these.
Did Chalupa help set up the January 26th meeting with the Obama White House with the Ukrainian prosecutors?
I see no evidence of that.
I believe Telashenko and the Ukrainian prosecutors got that overture directly.
Okay, from the Obama White House.
White House from the National Security Committee.
And isn't that interesting?
There's one thing to point out here.
Remember, Joe Biden's current story is the prosecutor Shokin was a dirty dog, and that's why I got rid of him.
If he was such a dirty dog in March, why in January would you invite his whole team over as a reward to come to Washington?
That's another one of those things of Joe Biden's story that doesn't add up when you look at the timeline.
The media now covering for Chalupa saying she was just a part-time contractor for the DNC.
You know, she's a soccer mom.
I love this.
And that all of her Manafort research was done on her own, and the DNC never instructed her of doing that, even though she was being paid $71,000 for this part-time job.
And she had been there for 10 years.
I mean, she was routinely paid by the DNC going back into the early 2000s, according to the records I've reviewed.
You know, you could use the same defense for George Papadopoulos.
Not that the media did it.
He was an unpaid advisor to Trumpet campaign.
No big deal.
But remember, the media made a big deal of George Papadopoulos.
But now they want to have a different standard for Chalupa, who, by the way, was paid.
So it does show Americans are so smart.
They can see through all of this double standard that the news media are currently applying.
Any evidence that the DNC coordinated with the Ukrainian government for opposition research other than through Chalupa?
Not that I have found.
Now,
we do know one thing.
We do know that a Ukrainian court last December, so December 2018, the Ukrainian administrative court ruled that two members of
government in Ukraine have improperly tried to influence the U.S.
election.
That's Nick and Leshenko.
Right, Sergei Leshenko, the parliamentary member, and then the head of Nabu, they're kind of like their anti-corruption FBI.
Why is that important?
Leshenko is identified by Nelly Orr, the wife of Bruce Orr, the fusion GPS contractor, as one of her sources who gave her information on Manafort that she then gave to her husband to give to the FBI.
So we know from Nellie Orr's testimony, at least one Ukrainian government official provided Hillary Clinton's opposition research team with information that ultimately made to the FBI.
Now, that's the only nugget we have.
It needs to be investigated further, I think, to find out what else we might learn.
Okay, so this was appealed.
They were found guilty of meddling in the 2016 election.
Then it was appealed, and the case seems to now have been dismissed.
It was set aside on a technicality, not on the findings of fact, but on the fact fact that an administrative court can't make a ruling against the parliamentary member because they have immunity.
So it's never been set aside for the factual basis.
It's been set aside because of a process issue.
We've been trying to get the court documents, and
almost impossible.
Do you have the court documents?
Have you seen the court documents?
We had a freelancer in Ukraine that was able to get the documents from the administrative court, and they match exactly what the Kiev Post and all the other Ukrainian newspapers, Union, and others had reported at the time.
Yes, there was a rule.
It wasn't very long.
It was brief and straightforward.
But it has, our stringer was able to get that and
provide us what it said.
Yes.
Last question for you, John.
And I know you have had to have thought of this.
I put this together.
I don't even know if you've seen it.
I put this together on a chalkboard last week.
And it took me 50 minutes to explain this.
And I moved pretty rapidly.
And many people have.
seen it.
And the response is from
anybody in a position of getting this story out, they have said to me the same thing.
Glenn,
how do you sell that on TV in two minutes?
Because that's all we'll get is two minutes.
And when you get into this story, it's so complex.
If you don't have it down, you're going to sound like a conspiracy theorist or a nut because you can't explain it quickly.
John,
how would you sell this?
You're on TV for two minutes.
How do you sell what this story really is about?
I think there are two elements of it.
One is that the Ukraine was to the Democratic Party what Russia was alleged to be to the Republican Party.
It was their playground in the 2016 election to try to gain foreign influence in our election.
That's the first piece of it.
The second piece of it is we had a sitting vice president whose son sat in the vapor trail of his father's policy work in Ukraine and cashed in to the tune of $3.4 million.
That's an official record amount of money that's been confirmed.
And when
Ukrainians began to look into that arrangement, how that came to be, that vice president used his power of government and the threat of canceling
foreign aid to get that prosecutor fired.
Whether his intention was to stop the investigation or just to get rid of the guy, under U.S.
ethics laws, it doesn't matter.
You are obligated as a government official, and Joe Biden was, to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
It's obviously an appearance of a conflict of interest when you fire the prosecutor who is investigating your son's company.
Those are the two storylines boiled down in a couple hundred words, tops.
John,
sincerely thank you for everything that you have done.
Thank you for being relentless on this.
Thank you for taking the bullets that
most people aren't willing to do.
Even if they have the facts, they're just not willing to do it.
You are standing at a place where I think you win in the end, but it could very easily turn the other way and
they just destroy credibility.
That's what they're trying to do.
And I pray for you and I thank you for the work that you've done.
A lot more work to be done.
We've got to keep digging.
A lot more truth to be found.
I know.
Thank you so much, John.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
God bless.
You bet.
Where are others like me?
Where are they?
Not many.
I don't know how many employees he's going to find.
Maybe working at that place by himself.
I know.
I know.
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I think he's going to end up being the Bob Woodward of our generation.
He has been on this now for years, and a lot of these facts have been out as we've covered them
as they came out.
The problem with this story is nobody took all of it and put it together.
You know, that's kind of my skill is being able to put all this.
this crazy storyline together and present it as a chalkboard so it's understandable.
We all have our own role.
His role, I mean, we've been drafting behind him on the information
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